why don't we have a kitchen like these guys?

[Black6spdZ]

http://ppckitchen.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=55

Is it me or does it seem like there is no central development anymore? Does anyone remember the WEB based kitchen for the original XDA?? ;)

[joshkoss]

http://ppckitchen.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=55

Is it me or does it seem like there is no central development anymore? Does anyone remember the WEB based kitchen for the original XDA?? ;)

Totally agree man, We are left with scrounging to collaborate a good kitchen from all the generous chefs around here. (No intended as a knock to chefs)
And then fending for ourselves on if issues arrise. I mean i understand everyones very busy with their own lives but these guys on PPCkitchen got it going on man!! ;)

[draceteam]

Looks very interesting, can't install it at my work pc but will try it first thing tonight when I get home.....Are there certain models this works on??
(I read a little bit around the site so if that question is answered I will locate it)


Dave

[CRCinAU]

I haven't released the kitchen I built as it's mainly re-written for my own development...

It takes a good use of cygwin, bash, perl, shell scripts, windows exe files, and more... Having all this setup for the average joe would be a nightmare to support! ;)

So, I just keep plodding on and releasing ROMs :)

[joshkoss]

I haven't released the kitchen I built as it's mainly re-written for my own development...

It takes a good use of cygwin, bash, perl, shell scripts, windows exe files, and more... Having all this setup for the average joe would be a nightmare to support! ;)

So, I just keep plodding on and releasing ROMs :)

I've been trying to get started mixing a few kitchens but i keep getting stuck dumping roms.. what tools do you use to dump roms,I've been using bepe's but they don't work on the newer roms. or do you obtain your "meat" already dumped? ;)

[CRCinAU]

I've been trying to get started mixing a few kitchens but i keep getting stuck dumping roms.. what tools do you use to dump roms, or do you obtain your "meat" already dumped? ;)

It really depends... sometimes it's official NBH's, others it's from an NBH from a different device, sometimes it's a rip direct from the phone (ie Part02.raw), other times it's just a SYS directory...

As there's no more official development for the Hermes, it comes down to what you can find :P

[mrvanx]

A nice bit of generosity from the sources of the builds would be good. Unfortuatly this has NEVER been the case and its a matter of "who you know" if you want to get hold of builds for a kitchen. The pandora series of kitchens was the daddy when it was alive.

Ive personally given up cooking my own ROMs since getting hold of a ROM build is difficult.

CRCinAU has bodged together a working stable ROM from several other devices and has ported all the bits over, whereas others have access to a build ready-made. He has done ALOT of work to get the ROMs working, alot more than the other chefs i might add since the majority of the work is porting in his case.

Shame the builds arent shread more since they ARE out there but being withheld rather selfishly.

My 2p.

[joshkoss]

Shame the builds arent shread more since they ARE out there but being withheld rather selfishly.

My 2p.
Yknow there are many cooks out there releasing different builds to which i am very grateful for. and i'm very noobish but it seems like if we could dump builds from others like for example the latest PDAviet build.
If i could dump that properly and then build it into my own would be very cool but i'm stumped at the dumping part. I think if we could have a fixed tool that properly dumps .bin without overlap errors then we could probably jump in on the cooking bandwagon and participate, other than scrounging for pieces from here and there.

[joshkoss]

As for my last comment, It appears i received a answer finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2418428&posted=1#post2418428
He says it's basically impossible to dump a pdaviet rom.

[mrvanx]

As for my last comment, It appears i received a answer finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2418428&posted=1#post2418428
He says it's basically impossible to dump a pdaviet rom.

Yep, its quite easy to build an nb which cannot be dumped....yet another way to stop people using the build inside. Im sure there is a good reason but from what i can see its merely to stop people releasing thier own ROMs, the pandora kitchens showed that most people used it to customise a ROM for thier own needs rather than release a ROM.

[dan1967]

I am absolutely no specialist (only experienced a lot of trial and error), but what I can say to people looking for building themselves a kitchen from new builds is that they must perform a little porting from "live" devices that keep receiving updates. Getting your hands on an originally shipped ROM is essential as CRC said before.
For now the "easy" one is Kaiser and it is not very complicated if one was used to bepe's kitchen before. Search for EasyPortOven that comes handy is this case. Porting from newer devices like Diamond, Raphael is more complex due to resolution (at least) and people that have done it can have a word here maybe.

This is also a good reason why I spend most of the time in this forum over at the Kaiser section. It is more alive.

[ai6908]

Good tips and discussion! We do have some kitchens available in our forum. Although finding a good kitchen here is sometimes like pulling the teeth! This is the truth back when i had my wizard too!

[GuzuGuzu]

What can I say mr. mrvanx, I totally agree with you. Pandora has shown us a way to customize the ROM's as per our own needs, and that gave all of us freedom of choice. My last build with Pandora was the fastest one at that time, which made me quite happy.

I would be very grateful to who ever will release an updated kitchen for us. The kitchen from Tyr0 is a very good one and fast. But I wanted to get a newer one, that will contain updated clock.exe, UsbToPc.exe (with possibility to have my TyTN as a Usb Drive), clean E & G icons and other nice features that the latest ported builds have.

I hate when ROM' Chefs believe that by releasing a kitchen, everyone will be making money on them and not give any credit to the initial builders and share money received. Perhaps there is a good reason for that, but WHY PAY you guys (rom chefs) when instead of solving problems of one build you are actually jumping onto another and release a new ROM. You are asking for so called "donations", but you don't give us, simple users, any support for "your" freshly cooked builds. We are still facing the problems with IrDA, Bluetooth and constant freezes or hard resets. But it seems that you don't give a damn thing about it, and continue to ask for donations.

Look at mattk_r, he supported Pandora Kitchen until it has gotten to a perfect point. There were no issues whatsoever, and ROM performed so great that it was a pleasure to spend a few hours just to build my own rom one day.
Too bad the development has stopped right before the new builds started to come out. :(

I admire CRCinAU as I have tried every single ROM he has build and I've seen how much effort he put in his "creations". Most of them performed very well for me. But, I like ROM's to be as small as they can be; without any additional software/pictures/sounds/never used OEM apps etc. That's why I have stopped on Tyr0 v.1.2 ROM, which at the moment suits me quite well.

CRCinAU, if you don't mind of course, I would love to see a kitchen from you based on your latest release. It doesn't have to have all the OEM additional apps, as I believe everyone of us has them all. But it would be nice to have Bigstorage ROM in it's initial version, with the option (if possible of course) to remove some of the OEM apps such as Welcome Center, Error Reporting, Clear Storage etc. What would you say? :)

[joshkoss]

If we had a kitchen, that was updateable like in the first post. That could easily port other builds (Maybe having easyportoven built in).

[dan1967]

People that want to play with porting may want to check this thread for SYS builds:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402752

[veyka]

I admire the work the many chefs on this forum put out there work has made my device so much better.

I love CRC's roms, but I was wondering if there is a way to strip out OEM stuff, I like my roms as clean as possible from flash, maybe with the options to put stuff back in with UC if its wanted.

(I hate the HTC button task manager for example)

I have though about trying to cook a rom myself, but its far to complex for me dig around and find what I would need, one, large, thread would be perfect.

Maybe if people want to make sure you give credit, they could add a hard coded boot screen or summit?

[CRCinAU]

WCRCinAU, if you don't mind of course, I would love to see a kitchen from you based on your latest release. It doesn't have to have all the OEM additional apps, as I believe everyone of us has them all. But it would be nice to have Bigstorage ROM in it's initial version, with the option (if possible of course) to remove some of the OEM apps such as Welcome Center, Error Reporting, Clear Storage etc. What would you say? :)

As I've said here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2417614&postcount=4), I don't think it'd be wise for me to release a kitchen as I've hugely customised it for my needs... This means you need cygwin + perl + bash etc installed on windows for it to work correctly. It would also take me quite some time to convert it back into a simple kitchen for someone else to use.

As far as the average person goes, this would be way beyond them. I don't mind if someone builds one based on the dump of my ROM - MRH ROMs are built exactly this way...

[Radical_MT]

I admire the work the many chefs on this forum put out there work has made my device so much better.

I love CRC's roms, but I was wondering if there is a way to strip out OEM stuff, I like my roms as clean as possible from flash, maybe with the options to put stuff back in with UC if its wanted.

(I hate the HTC button task manager for example)

I have though about trying to cook a rom myself, but its far to complex for me dig around and find what I would need, one, large, thread would be perfect.

Maybe if people want to make sure you give credit, they could add a hard coded boot screen or summit?

I believe that most of the cheffs here don't do a lite ones because of the users complains saying "after installing this or that oem software, the phone start to slow down on speed" and starr requesting those oem cooked in.

[dan1967]

OK guys. Here's a working Hermes SYS and XIP folders that you can use with your existing kitchens.
http://uploaded.to/?id=6eyuot

Good luck with it and happy cooking

[joshkoss]

OK guys. Here's a working Hermes SYS and XIP folders that you can use with your existing kitchens.
http://uploaded.to/?id=6eyuot

Good luck with it and happy cooking

Dude! U rock!! is this big storage?

[dan1967]

Dude! U rock!! is this big storage?

Nope, sorry. You can keep your original XIP (I think) for that.

[joshkoss]

What file do i edit to change the rom date and information?

[joshkoss]

Anyone have a BS Hermes XIP sitting around?

[mrvanx]

Anyone have a BS Hermes XIP sitting around?

Take a peek dude: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360461

Learning is all part of the game ;)

[joshkoss]

Take a peek dude: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360461

Learning is all part of the game ;)


Thanks,
Wow thats some complicated stuff, I think i'll start with just learning myself on getting familier with the kitchen i'm building before diving into the BS arena.

[mrvanx]

Thanks,
Wow thats some complicated stuff, I think i'll start with just learning myself on getting familier with the kitchen i'm building before diving into the BS arena.

heres the tools you will need, once you have an OEM/SYS/XIP place them all in a folder and put the files in this rar in the same folder.

http://www.mrvanx.org/files/kitchen.rar

[joshkoss]

Yesterday thanks to everyone in this forum I've finally kooked my own rom. it's sys 19588 and oem rom 19960.. has 79 megs free storage and 28 megs free ram.. Not bad for my first! ;) One questions still remains, How do I change the rom date on the rom? I've searched and found no answers.

Edit: Oop Dan the man answered my question here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313351
Thanks dude and wish me luck! ;)

[Black6spdZ]

I'm surprised to see this many people share my thoughts. It seems as though many people could share in the development given just a little help. Maybe its not so much to ask for the dumps along with the burnable ROMs. I used to package my BA ROMS this way, I didn't care for donations or to have my name plastered all over the ROM. If you are a chef and are just in it for the money head towards ebay or buy and resell the phones with the ROMs already flashed. MS must have slacked off.. anyone remember when the XDA ftp site came under heat? I'm surprised that they even allow full ROMS to circulate like they do.