Is screen protector really required ?

[hertc]

I am asking because I noticed that the new screen is not as sensitive as previous ones (currently using it with factory film over front panel) and you do need to press harder, some finger gestures not working well.

On the other hand, this screen is supposed to be very durable due to new technology, so maybe no need to use screen protector at all ?

[flaviopac]

If you want scratch your screen while using your device, then you can just use your Diamond without the screen protection....

[hertc]

If you want scratch your screen while using your device, then you can just use your Diamond without the screen protection....
Thanks I understand the purpose of screen protectors, I am talking more about usability, then will decide weither to take risk or not ..

[flaviopac]

Thanks I understand the purpose of screen protectors, I am talking more about usability, then will decide weither to take risk or not ..

It depends also on the quality of your screen protection...

[darthbane2k]

Is one needed? Well thats a matter of taste?

Is the included HTC one any good? Yes its excellent. Applies easily and is very clear... however it scratches very easily. This is no reflection on the actual screen of the Diamond itself, as it would take an awful lot more to scratch the actual screen.

[leoni1980]

the screen is excellent. much more responsive than on the other devices I've had, and yet I never used a screen protector on my universal or my athena. I wouldn't consider not using a screen protector as the diamond has been a bit of a scuff magnet, despite me keeping it in a leather case. I'm hoping backs for the device will be easy to come by!

[JanDaMan]

you silly if you dont use a protector on this device imho

[bill_viper]

Of course without screen protector! I'm using touch screens 5 years now...SonyEricsson P800 era...till now none of my devices have been scratched!
Also the usability sucks big time with screen protectors!

[Noam23]

If HTC really believed the Diamond can survive without a screen protector, why is one supplied inside the original package ?

[techdave]

Depends on your usage I suppose.
With my last 6-8 phones, I've never used any screen protection or even case and none of them got any scractch.

I always put my phone in my shirt/pants pocket, never in the same pocket with keys or coins.

With the Diamond, I only put the screen protecter only because HTC provided it. If they didn't give me one, I wouldn't even bother buying one. (Yes, still no scratch with my original HTC protector as well)

[kidd78]

agree with techdave I have had 5 phones and I try to immediately cover it with screen protector, one time I waited for abit and end up have a scuff mark from something. As the saying goes 'sh*t happens' so why risk damaging your phone especially a beautiful one. I actually ordered one for the back too now, I really dont see it affecting the screen as some people say but they prob got some thicker cheap ones that prob will affect it.

I think of it this way, when I come to sell the phone all i have to do is remove the protectors and it will be good as new!

oh and I sold 4 of them with no complains of wear or tear!

[dave94o]

It truly depends what kind of person you are. If your the kind that doesn't care about there Diamond and throws it everywhere then you need a protector. But if your the neat kind that his heart rips out when you see a scratch your probably are not going to need a protector,its really up to you

[anheuer]

I really need it with my diamond.

never needed it with my touch
but this screen scratches soooo fasstt..
it looks better without,
but this is better then with scratches

[rakh1]

The factory shipped screen protector for the Diamond is EXCELLENT. I hated these before and on all my other models I have not used them or removed them after a day. The diamond on is different - you just do not notice it is there. Therefore, my advice - use it!

[darthbane2k]

Anyone fine the supplied HTC protector scratches the screen real easily?
Ive had my diamond for no more than 2 weeks and I have 3 fine scratches already. At £9.99 a pair for thes protectors, it isnt cheap.

[irdawood]

the oem diamond screen protector does scratch easily...(the actual protector not the phone) once ive had my use out of the oem protector im going to use a martin fields protector as i hear they are the best.

[xxnoelziexx]

Just stuck the screen protector on and I have the say it is really good. I managed to get it on perfect no bubbles at all. A few of my friends didn't even notice the screen protector was on. so far so good no scratches yet only had it on for 1 day.

[hertc]

Just stuck the screen protector on and I have the say it is really good. I managed to get it on perfect no bubbles at all. A few of my friends didn't even notice the screen protector was on. so far so good no scratches yet only had it on for 1 day.
I dispositioned a corner by 1mm on side, that resulted in a nasty unglued stripe there about 2-3 mm wide ... now looking for something really sharp to cut that mm off :)

[Noam23]

It seems that many people believe that the diamond screen is more immune toward scratches, because it is protected by tempered glass.

The truth is that on top of the tempered glass, there is the touch surface, which is much less resistant to scratches than tempered glass (so it's touch surface => tempered glass = > lcd screen).

[chineseleper]

actually, the touch surface is below the plexiglas. that's why you have to press so hard. it's a resisitve touch surface, so you can see that it only interacts if you actually press the plexiglas so hard that it bends.

plexiglas can be very hard, but because the touch surface is resistive, they had to use soft plexiglas which is not scratch resistant at all.

anyway, I had a screen protector on my diamond and yesterday it somehow fell off the table. And a SCRATCH aaargghh! wait! it's only on the screen protector!

So I'd say you definitely need one.

[Noam23]

actually, the touch surface is below the plexiglas. that's why you have to press so hard. it's a resisitve touch surface, so you can see that it only interacts if you actually press the plexiglas so hard that it bends.

Funny, I have the guy who built the HTC Diamond, *on video*, claiming that the touch surface is *above* the glass, not below it.

But I guess you know better...

[MrDerrickC]

I would of thought the touch surface would be below the glass as most other devices?

Concerning if it is above the glass as I have just applied the invisibleshield and if I want to remove it in the future it will cause havoc.

[Noam23]

I would of thought the touch surface would be below the glass as most other devices?

First of all, in the video that I've mentioned earlier, the person who built the HTC Diamond, claim that this device is the *first in the world* to incorporate tempered glass with a resistive touch screen, so, there are no "other devices".

Second, It would seem *pretty stupid* to put a resistive touch surface, *below* a sheet of tempered glass, since tempered glass can not bend (so it doesn't matter where you press on the tempered glass, it will cause the entire touch surface to get pressed).

[chineseleper]

First of all, in the video that I've mentioned earlier, the person who built the HTC Diamond, claim that this device is the *first in the world* to incorporate tempered glass with a resistive touch screen, so, there are no "other devices".

Second, It would seem *pretty stupid* to put a resistive touch surface, *below* a sheet of tempered glass, since tempered glass can not bend (so it doesn't matter where you press on the tempered glass, it will cause the entire touch surface to get pressed).

so if it is tempered glass... why is it bending?! tempered glass would be really neat and most importantly scratch resitant because it is hard as hell. if it really is glass, great, but wtf is is doing behind the touch surface? I mean the touch surface is the thing that gets damaged easy... it's like wearing a one sided bullet proof west at your front and letting everyone shoot you from the back.

But if they really put the touch surface above the glass, I'm gonna buy myself some more screen protectors. mine is already scratched and I definitely don't want the touch surface to get damaged.

by the way... the responsivness of the diamond is much lower than any other device, which would make no sense because if the touch surface is on top unlike any other device, the responsiveness should be way better.

I took a look at the video but i couldn't actually find any official document or press release that confirms that. If you have one, please share because I don't really believe the video. Might have been for a prototype or I don't know what.

[Noam23]

so if it is tempered glass... why is it bending?!
It's not bending, it doesn't need to because the touch surface is above.

tempered glass would be really neat and most importantly scratch resitant because it is hard as hell. if it really is glass, great, but wtf is is doing behind the touch surface? I mean the touch surface is the thing that gets damaged easy... it's like wearing a one sided bullet proof west at your front and letting everyone shoot you from the back.

You misunderstood the reason they put tempered glass. It's not suppose to be against scratches, rather it keeps the device from breaking, if you hit something hard (as was nicely illustrated in the video).

by the way... the responsivness of the diamond is much lower than any other device, which would make no sense because if the touch surface is on top unlike any other device, the responsiveness should be way better.

The iPhone has one of the most responsice touch screens ever. If you look at this video, you can see that the diamond behaves similarly. I don't see the person using much more force to operate the Diamond.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2beE-awOdds&NR=1

I don't really believe the video. Might have been for a prototype or I don't know what.

Funny, you don't believe the person who built the Diamond... sure, what does he knows...

[chineseleper]

they have a metal frame for the phone, why would they need a glass screen? it's not like plexiglas is that easy to break. My old phone, an orbit/artemis had no problems being thrown around. I threw it 2 m in the air and let it fall on concrete to demonstrate the robustness of that thing in front of my friends. it is still working and having no problems at all. I can hit the screen too, with the brando protector on it (of curse), it won't do anything to it. the only problem with those phones is that the screen surface can be easily damaged when using no screen protector.

iphone is capacitve, you dont even have to push to activate. It's just like the diamond buttons below. the react even before you click. now tell me you can do the same with the resistive screen. anyway, thats not the point. the point is, if they should have the tempered glass with touch surface on top on all their production devices and not the prototypes (which the one in the video might be) there is a big need for a screen protector and it is a MUST DO to apply it. It would also explain why they actually supplied one.

I'm not saying that the builder doesn't know what the diamond is build of, i'm simply sceptical about wether he is talking about a prototype or not.

[Sergio PC]

I am asking because I noticed that the new screen is not as sensitive as previous ones (currently using it with factory film over front panel) and you do need to press harder, some finger gestures not working well.

On the other hand, this screen is supposed to be very durable due to new technology, so maybe no need to use screen protector at all ?

Change the pressure threshold to 1 and your good.;)

[Noam23]

I'm not saying that the builder doesn't know what the diamond is build of, i'm simply sceptical about wether he is talking about a prototype or not.

I think I recognized one of the people in the room (in the video) who asked questions. I sent him email to see if he can clarify.

[hertc]

Change the pressure threshold to 1 and your good.;)
I will if a kind man advises me where to do it from, is it a new setting in 6.1 or registry tweak ?

[chineseleper]

I think I recognized one of the people in the room (in the video) who asked questions. I sent him email to see if he can clarify.

that's great! keep us informed wether we should spend some additional money on a screen protector.

[JanDaMan]

well this is the video with the guy talking about the glass etc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDS5BKkmoTM

he does say that the touch surface on top of the laminated surface then lcd. BUT the way a resistive screen works is that you have the sensor, which is then covered by another layer which is allowed to bend... does this imply that there is some kind of plastic layer on the top of the screen?? or does it mean that is is tempered glass on top and the sensor underneath and the guy in the video just slipped up... you decide but i'm just gonna stick to using a screen protector (has no real noticeable effect on usage if you get a good one) lol

[Sergio PC]

I will if a kind man advises me where to do it from, is it a new setting in 6.1 or registry tweak ?

Im using 2.02.2.0.0 Schaps Advanced Config Tool. (this is basic stuff if u would of searched)
Download install Touchflow>>Pressure threshold to 1. Restart device.
Do you know of the tweaks?

Luck fellasss:D

[hank freid hotels]

I think screen protector must for your screen,otherwise it could be break or other causes.I am also using the screen protector for avoid.You should too use it to keep your screen safe and sound.Good luck.

[chineseleper]

well this is the video with the guy talking about the glass etc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDS5BKkmoTM

he does say that the touch surface on top of the laminated surface then lcd. BUT the way a resistive screen works is that you have the sensor, which is then covered by another layer which is allowed to bend... does this imply that there is some kind of plastic layer on the top of the screen?? or does it mean that is is tempered glass on top and the sensor underneath and the guy in the video just slipped up... you decide but i'm just gonna stick to using a screen protector (has no real noticeable effect on usage if you get a good one) lol

there should be another thin layer of plastic on top of the glass in that case that video is correct. I've tried brando (missing a corner), 3m (doesn't glue perfectly) and the originial one (gets scratches way to easy) and they all failed in a way or another so I was wondering if I should try another one...

[JanDaMan]

there should be another thin layer of plastic on top of the glass in that case that video is correct. I've tried brando (missing a corner), 3m (doesn't glue perfectly) and the originial one (gets scratches way to easy) and they all failed in a way or another so I was wondering if I should try another one...

yeah the video is correct if there is a thin layer of plastic on top (i never said otherwise!), but i don't think there is a thin layer of plastic on top. aside from that yeah try Martin Fields and MOMAX (screen-pro) screen protectors both are good imo. Do not use InvisibleShield.

[MrDerrickC]

Removed the invisible shield from only the screen and replaced with a EXiM screen protector. OMG!! I miss the smooooth silky feeling of a good screen protector. My finger glides now.

[lenaddison]

I had the original T-Mobile MDA vario and to start with I used the screen protector and I found that the screen was not all that clear so it was removed. That phone was used for a good 18 months and did not scratch at all even when used with a pen rather that the stylus.

With that in mind I have decided no to use the screen protector on my diamond.

[amberzombie]

Removed the invisible shield from only the screen and replaced with a EXiM screen protector. OMG!! I miss the smooooth silky feeling of a good screen protector. My finger glides now.

where did you get your Exim protector from? i'm also in Australia and i'm looking for one.

and i also notice that you're on 3. how's that working for you with the HTC Diamond? did you sign up with the X-series data plan?

[MrDerrickC]

where did you get your Exim protector from? i'm also in Australia and i'm looking for one.

and i also notice that you're on 3. how's that working for you with the HTC Diamond? did you sign up with the X-series data plan?

I bought mine from eBay, always have since I find it easiest. Get the SPUC one which is the better one. (not the SPOC one).

I had the bronze pack before I had this phone. But I only use it for emails and MSN Messenger, maybe the occasional web browsing. 100mb is enough for me as I manage and don't want to spend $20 on the silver pack.
Great speeds though, tested and got around 850kbs.

[Krpano]

Well, at the beginning i decided to not use screen protector, since i have never user for any other phone i had.
I simply replace the screen when becomes screatched.

But other day i made a small scratch on my Diamond and decided to put it on the one that comes with it.
But i removed again, since the screen is already scratched..lol

I think ill use it a little without anything and replace my touchscreen later.

[leaskovski]

not been using any protector as of when i got it a couple of weeks ago and so far it still looks new.

I suppose it all comes down to if you are a ham fisted twat.

[CutePinkSox]

Wish i hadn't now - I am super careful but noticed some scratched appearing here and there after a month... put it straight back on.

[leoni1980]

it's not about being a ham fisted twat or anything like that. keeping my phones on their own in my pocket always prevented unsightly scratches to the casing however touch screen devices will always develop microscopic scratches to the screen over time as your fingers and nails drag over the screen, regardless of whether you have immense talons or stubby little nails.

manufacturers almost always provide temporary protection solutions for their touchscreen phones to counter this

[catdog]

I never used a protector on any of my PDA's and always managed to scratch them. My Touch Diamond was only two days old when I took it to the beach and a grain of sand did quite a damage to the screen. I honestly do not care, it is a tool and I will work it to the ground. The scratch makes the stylus move less smoothly and this is the only grievance I have now.

Since I mastered handwriting recognition any screen protector is just a bother that makes the OCR less accurate. So I say no to it.

I remember the old times when some sad people used a polyethylene bag to wrap the TV remote control to keep it in pristine condition and I always pitied them. The screen protector in my view falls to the same category.

[CutePinkSox]

I never used a protector on any of my PDA's and always managed to scratch them. My Touch Diamond was only two days old when I took it to the beach and a grain of sand did quite a damage to the screen. I honestly do not care, it is a tool and I will work it to the ground. The scratch makes the stylus move less smoothly and this is the only grievance I have now.

Since I mastered handwriting recognition any screen protector is just a bother that makes the OCR less accurate. So I say no to it.

I remember the old times when some sad people used a polyethylene bag to wrap the TV remote control to keep it in pristine condition and I always pitied them. The screen protector in my view falls to the same category.

You pity them wow quite a statement - quite interesting although I understand your point yes it just a tool but also an aesthetically pleasing tool and it's quite nice to keep it that way. I use handwriting recognition too but with a good screen protector - I get less glare now and adjusting the screen sensitivity fixes any usability issues. You cannot compare something thats designed from special materials and cut exactly to size to wrapping something in a polythene bag.

[Thom4s]

I use the oem screen protector, I managed to fit it perfectly, almost not noticable, so I thought why not?

[OnePointOh]

I too thought I would be fine without the screen protector. Haver 10 days my stylus developed a weird cut in the point, and now it scratches if you hold it a certain way. So now I've got several scratches on my screen. Put the protector on immediately but the damage is already done, of course.

It's sad, I took great care of it, and then it gets damaged by the stylus, of all things.