No Orange Touch Diamonds Till August

[mjames_84]

Just got off the phone to an Orange Upgrade advisor who's told me they don't expect to get any more Touch Diamonds until August at the earliest, I've been trying to get one all week now!

Very frustrating!

[R3PUBL1K]

Just got off the phone to an Orange Upgrade advisor who's told me they don't expect to get any more Touch Diamonds until August at the earliest, I've been trying to get one all week now!

Very frustrating!


Phones4U may have some

[mjames_84]

Phones4U may have some

Unfortunately I have an online contract with Orange which I want to renew, as far as I'm aware I can't do that in a store?

[joemax]

Anyone that sells Orange airtime can upgrade you. I just went to Get Connected near by here (they had a Diamond in stock) and did it.

[mjames_84]

Anyone that sells Orange airtime can upgrade you. I just went to Get Connected near by here (they had a Diamond in stock) and did it.

Do you think they'd do it as cheap as from Orange direct? Guy on the phone reckoned he could do it for free and put me on a tarriff which included unlimited (fair usage :() data....well if they'd have had the phone in stock anyway! lol :rolleyes:

[joemax]

My upgrade was free (category 5) and went for Panther 45 with unlimited data and UK landlines... 1200 minutes any network and 500 texts.

[liamhere]

i got 650 mins...unlimited landline and texts....and "unlimited data" for £30 a month...bargain..well i think so


my "unlimited data" starts tomorrow

have to get a data meter on my diamond

don't want a nasty suprise on my next bill

[mjames_84]

Hmm well there is a Carphone Warehouse on the way home. Might pop in there and see what they say!

I didn't know an Orange Online account could be upgraded in a store. My previous experience was an o2 online account which could only be upgraded over the phone directly with o2 online. What a nightmare that was!

[joemax]

Worth a call at least. Not sure about an online Orange contract upgrade. Assume its the same deal except you get a discount for applying online and reducing staffing costs ;-)

[eadon]

Do you think they'd do it as cheap as from Orange direct? Guy on the phone reckoned he could do it for free and put me on a tarriff which included unlimited (fair usage :() data....well if they'd have had the phone in stock anyway! lol :rolleyes:

Youre in the same situation as me. Upgrade free via orange online, £69 in store:mad:

[Teppic24]

Just got off the phone to an Orange Upgrade advisor who's told me they don't expect to get any more Touch Diamonds until August at the earliest, I've been trying to get one all week now!

Very frustrating!

Also, the next batch of Diamonds (the first batch had the stock HTC ROM) will "be optimised for the Orange network". In other words, crippled with Orange's bloatware.

[R3PUBL1K]

Do you think they'd do it as cheap as from Orange direct? Guy on the phone reckoned he could do it for free and put me on a tarriff which included unlimited (fair usage :() data....well if they'd have had the phone in stock anyway! lol :rolleyes:

All depends on your monthly spends...

The line rental discount is only available via orange direct, but the free phone are down to the seller. Much depends on your tariff as they work of the commission

[R3PUBL1K]

Like the rain my road - orange are going downhill very fast.

After 13 years as a customer, they do nothing for me now in terms of upgrading - every six months at no cost. I have to wait until the last 3 months (Nov) just for a 3G sim.

[mjames_84]

Also, the next batch of Diamonds (the first batch had the stock HTC ROM) will "be optimised for the Orange network". In other words, crippled with Orange's bloatware.


I'm sure it won't be too difficult to remove that and put on a stock HTC ROM. Although I've not done too much research into it yet.

Probably a bit rusty on these things though, not been a member of Windows Mobile world since the XDA Exec, thought it was about time to come back!

[liamhere]

Also, the next batch of Diamonds (the first batch had the stock HTC ROM) will "be optimised for the Orange network". In other words, crippled with Orange's bloatware.

flash and its good to go :)

[ns73]

Also, the next batch of Diamonds (the first batch had the stock HTC ROM) will "be optimised for the Orange network". In other words, crippled with Orange's bloatware.

No it won't ! Orange stated to me on the phone that because the device is aimed at consumer and not business (hence not a phone in their SPV range), the phone is sold as an HTC device which mean the only branding they do is the Orange logo on the back and splash screen when you first turn it on.

Had it been sold as an Orange SPVxxxx then it WOULD have had branding. Orange did complete branding but as they decided it was not going to be an SPV device, they are going to offer all HTC Diamonds without it....

[Teppic24]

flash and its good to go :)

Oh, I agree, flash it to how you want it. When I eventually get my hands on the Diamond or the Touch Pro I'll be flashing mine, provided that the Orange ROM and SPL are available for me to revert to should a warranty issue arise.

But why do they (and all the other providers for that matter) have to smother the operating system with corporate identity just for the sake of it, often removing useful applications and replacing them with shite? Why can't it be like the early days of mobile providers when the OS was stock, you had a logo on the case and that was it?

Reflashing to a stock HTC Rom should be easy, but there are many people out there who won't to it because it will void the warranty, so they'll be saddled with a phone that is not as good as it could be.

[Teppic24]

No it won't ! Orange stated to me on the phone that because the device is aimed at consumer and not business (hence not a phone in their SPV range), the phone is sold as an HTC device which mean the only branding they do is the Orange logo on the back and splash screen when you first turn it on.

Had it been sold as an Orange SPVxxxx then it WOULD have had branding. Orange did complete branding but as they decided it was not going to be an SPV device, they are going to offer all HTC Diamonds without it....

The TyTN II was also offered as an HTC device and that featured a branded ROM.

Do not believe anything that an Orange representative at a call centre tells you regarding general phone information. Frequently they don't know themselves. In the Ipswich Orange store they mentioned (and I believe this has also been confirmed elsewhere and in other threads on this site) that the initial batch were unbranded so that they could get the phone on the shelves quickly in order to beat the release of the 3G iPhone, and that they have been informed by head office that all subsequent stocks of the Diamond will have an Orange branded ROM on them.


EDITED to add this from another post:

As I am an employee of Orange I thought I would let you know...

We got an email to day to say there are 3000 handsets "in testing" at the moment, it might not be until August that Online Sales, Phone Sales and Stores will see these handsets. By then they will be Orange Branded.

So, ns73, what was that about them not being branded?

[lenaddison]

got mine from phones 4 u, dolphin 35 -600 mins unlimited text and internet browsing for £35 a month and got £80 cash in hand and a free phone

[PaulusUK]

Is it true that they are holding them all back so that they can fix all the problems, and so sell a phone that actually works properly? :rolleyes:


















Probably not