Raphael Release Dates / Preorders etc..

[Black93300ZX]

Well, supposedly if you flash with the AT&T ROM it will work on 850/1900 UMTS... I was going to attempt that, but obviously when I found a Touch Pro made for the US I wasn't going to pass it up.

[burgertime]

Well I guess you can add to your mystique by ripping the ROM on yours and posting it here!

[lusta1988]

here in romania, they say it will not be available until september :(
Alex I'm also from romania, but I can assure you it's gonna be available by max on the 31st this month (this is the latest date of every european online store). Where did u ask? when i bought the tytn II, cel.ro had it 2 weeks before the representatives did. the raphael is now listed in 3 different sites (pdamall.ro for example) so don't be sad. Cheers

[alexdin1991]

Alex I'm also from romania, but I can assure you it's gonna be available by max on the 31st this month (this is the latest date of every european online store). Where did u ask? when i bought the tytn II, cel.ro had it 2 weeks before the representatives did. the raphael is now listed in 3 different sites (pdamall.ro for example) so don't be sad. Cheers

i have sent mail to pdamall and esal. both said they will get it in september according to their vendors

[timpollard]

Just ordered mine from Handtec, they say they'll be shipping them tomorrow for a Thursday delivery...

[twisted-pixel]

one of my friends bought his from handtec on pre order a month ago, I did mine through expansys...I wonder which one will turn up first.

[lusta1988]

i have sent mail to pdamall and esal. both said they will get it in september according to their vendors
really! That's news then. Maybe we should ask omnisoft...they represent htc in Romania anyway...they might just be first with the pro also. ;)

[kempas]

purelygadgets.co.uk av got the pro in stock:)

As said by ardsar, all it means is that they are expecting stock within a short enough timeframe (five days or so) that they can claim to have it in stock.

I placed an order with them Monday lunchtime, as at 5.00PM Tuesday afternoon it still said "Processing..." - I don't believe they had stock when they said they did. Cancelled my order and placed it with Handtec instead... (which was also cheaper and with next day delivery before 12.00pm)

[eugioc]

All the UK vendors (that I've seen) have this listed as HSDPA.

HTC site specs have it as HSPA... so which is it?

[grahamrb]

All the UK vendors (that I've seen) have this listed as HSDPA.

HTC site specs have it as HSPA... so which is it?

HSPA is a generic term which can reference either HSDPA or HSUPA. If you are with 3 Australia as your account says then I'm pretty sure it is HSDPA which is compatible with the UK ones as far as I know.

(REF: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Packet_Access)

[dabs]

All the UK vendors (that I've seen) have this listed as HSDPA.

HTC site specs have it as HSPA... so which is it?

So this is on W-UMTS (Wideband Code Division Multiple Access, if anyone cares)

HSDPA = High Speed Downlink Packet Access (Raphael is Cat8 - theoretical max 7.2 Mbps)
HSUPA = High Speed Uplink Packet Access (Raphael is Cat5 - theoretical max 2 Mbps)

QED
HSPA = High Speed Packet Access <- general 3.5G

[ez345]

If i buy from Expansys UK to be shipped to US i would save money and get it faster...right? I think this im gonna order mines tommorow i cant wait anymore

[badaas]

http://www.purelygadgets.co.uk/prodinfo.php?prodid=25097&start=0&thislist=39~351~948

[eugioc]

HSPA is a generic term which can reference either HSDPA or HSUPA. If you are with 3 Australia as your account says then I'm pretty sure it is HSDPA which is compatible with the UK ones as far as I know.

(REF: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Packet_Access)

I thought the norm was to refer to a device that has supports both HSDPA and HSUPA as HSPA. Sure this is also network dependant and 3 Aus only have HSDPA, but I'm talking in terms of the hardware capabilities.

So another way to put it... can the phones purchased in U.K support HSUPA?

[marker6]

Hi All,

so have anyone gotten this babe (touch pro) in hand yet ?
Can't wait to see this babe in action!

I m from singapore and we don't even know have a date when this will hit our shores:(

[eugioc]

...(Raphael is Cat5 - theoretical max 2 Mbps)

QED
HSPA = High Speed Packet Access <- general 3.5G

That answers my question in my last post... Raphael supports HSUPA.

I didn't see your reply before my last post. Thanks!

[b0yce]

Just received my HTC Touch Pro this morning 09:15 GMT from Device Wire just charging it up now can't wait the 3 hours!

[billu]

Just received my HTC Touch Pro this morning 09:15 GMT from Device Wire just charging it up now can't wait the 3 hours!

Welcome to the community, you have something we would all like to have :)

[alexdin1991]

really! That's news then. Maybe we should ask omnisoft...they represent htc in Romania anyway...they might just be first with the pro also. ;)

pdamall is actualy omnisofts online shop. check it out: http://www.pdamall.ro/Contact*id_3-mainpage_static

[b0yce]

Welcome to the community, you have something we would all like to have :) Thanks, just playing with it now, seems a long time since the day of the O2 XDA IIs/Blue Angel that I used to have.

[marker6]

Just received my HTC Touch Pro this morning 09:15 GMT from Device Wire just charging it up now can't wait the 3 hours!

oh man thats good news :) congrats on your new toy ..
do tell us more once you start playing with it k ..
pics or videos will be much appreciated

thanks in advance

[mynameisvinnie]

I'm up for a Sprint upgrade in October... Really liking this phone so far... I haven't seen much in the way of release dates for the US but was wondering if anyone has any clue/ballpark as to when sprint will have the Pro. And/or are there any better phones that sprint will be carrying that I should be considering??

[Syphon Filter]

Yup, last post in this thread for me, just got mine today too.

[grahamrb]

I ordered through clove on tuesday morning (UK time), tuesday afternoon they sent a request for a copy of a credit card statement for verification purposes, on tuesday evening I emailed that off to them and on wednesday morning I gave them a call to confirm they received the email and that it was acceptable. I went to bed on wednesday evening australia time (which was just after I called them, wednesday morning UK time) and when I woke up this morning there was no email stating that the order had been shipped. Sorry if it is confusing, the time difference makes it complicated.

Anyway, needless to say I'm not happy, we're coming up to 3 days since I placed the order and it still hasn't been shipped, now shipping will go across the weekend which means it will take even longer!

[jamesd256]

For those of us who want a Raphael on a contract..

No sign of the Vario IV on the T-mobile site yet, but I just got this in a news letter from Expansys.

I don't know why Expansys have this and not T-Mobile. Perhaps someone could explain?

"you can also get the HTC Touch Pro on an 18 month T-Mobile Combi 30 contract for only £141.99 . The T-Mobile Combi 30 contract will cost you £35 per month and includes 700 voice minutes, unlimited texts and 1GB wireless data. Call our connections team on 0161 232 3427 if you have further queries. "

[Syphon Filter]

For those of us who want a Raphael on a contract..

No sign of the Vario IV on the T-mobile site yet, but I just got this in a news letter from Expansys.

I don't know why Expansys have this and not T-Mobile. Perhaps someone could explain?

"you can also get the HTC Touch Pro on an 18 month T-Mobile Combi 30 contract for only £141.99 . The T-Mobile Combi 30 contract will cost you £35 per month and includes 700 voice minutes, unlimited texts and 1GB wireless data. Call our connections team on 0161 232 3427 if you have further queries. "

Expansys are selling the HTC branded Touch Pro with a contract.

T-Mobile will be selling their own version, MDA Vario IV or whatever they end up calling it.

[gingerprince]

I don't know why Expansys have this and not T-Mobile. Perhaps someone could explain?


Because T-Mobile will never sell the Touch Pro. They will sell the Vario IV which is a derivative of the Touch Pro, but it'sh not ready yet.

Expansys are selling the Touch Pro which is available with a separate T-Mobile contract to subsidise it.

[ukdj78]

Still waiting for mine... :( Placed the order in early July from Handtec but I've ordered the Premium one which is bundled with Tomtom software and they don't have it in yet.

I emailed them a couple of days ago when I noticed they had the normal Touch Pro in stock and asked how long it would be . The reply came back last night that it would be "sometime this week", that really only gives them Today or tomorrow so we'll see!

[ukdj78]

Well I made the above post from work on my Vario II. Just got home and unwrapped my Touch Pro, that was a nice surprise! :) They haven't updated their website for the premium ones yet though, it still says Mid-August.

[onesolo]

Hello,

Can anyone tell me if the EU version of Touch Pro comes with the European AC Charger plug or comes with the UK AC Charger plug ??
I'm asking this because I'm buying the Touch Pro on the portuguese expansys website, and although the version of the Touch Pro that they are selling is the EU it doens't say what type of AC charger plug brings.

[steveoidm]

The plug has a uk adaptor type thing, I believe this fits onto the EU style plug.

[triball]

so Touch Pro has finaly reached Czech Republic, for a very good prize - 14600 CZK (i think it should be 426 euros), so I´ve already ordered one and I´m picking it up on tommorow:)

[rakdoll]

so Touch Pro has finaly reached Czech Republic, for a very good prize - 14600 CZK (i think it should be 426 euros), so I´ve already ordered one and I´m picking it up on tommorow:)

Please tell me does that version have your special characters, or is it the EU version with bacis british keyboard? I'm dying to know. Just called HTC about the localized keyboards and they promised get back to me.

/Henry

[ukdj78]

so Touch Pro has finaly reached Czech Republic, for a very good prize - 14600 CZK (i think it should be 426 euros), so I´ve already ordered one and I´m picking it up on tommorow:)

Actually it's 597.64 euros :p http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/currency/convert?amt=14600&from=CZK&to=EUR&submit=Convert

[triball]

you´re right, i can´t even count, ´cause I can´t wait to get my hands on it:p

the keyboard layout is qwerty, at least what i think, but I´ll tell tommorow how is it for real

[TwistedTJ]

I just got a call from Expansys US and mine will ship Monday.

[WatskeBart]

Monday 18-08-2008 i'll get my HTC Touch Pro finally. I had it pre-ordered for about a 1/2 month.

I want to familiarize with rom cooking so hopefully i can post some in the future.
But untill then i can only wait for the phone to be delivered.

[Prerna]

Yeah, it's available on www.digitec.ch at 957 francs (same like US$). I ordered mine; should reach in 1-2 days ;)

[lusta1988]

pdamall is actualy omnisofts online shop. check it out: http://www.pdamall.ro/Contact*id_3-mainpage_static
Man I have to give you some good news. I'm buying it from neomax.ro which even has it cheaper than pdamall, and they say the stock will change it to available on the 18th, so 3 more days. cant wait. "Noroc la cumparaturi!"

[grahamrb]

Mine has finally shipped, it's at heathrow airport at the moment, still got a long flight ahead of itself to get to Melbourne!

[WatskeBart]

I will never pre-order again :(
I purchased the phone for € 595,- (http://www.2call.nl/quickshop-los.php?AB_ID=0&PR_ID=10204) UK version
Now the phone is finally in stock they dropped the price to € 574,- (http://www.2call.nl/quickshop-los.php?AB_ID=0&PR_ID=10203) on the NL version ain't that a b*tch :cool:

[alexdin1991]

Man I have to give you some good news. I'm buying it from neomax.ro which even has it cheaper than pdamall, and they say the stock will change it to available on the 18th, so 3 more days. cant wait. "Noroc la cumparaturi!"

i'm going to buy it from pdamall. they said it will be available on the 20th. i can't buy it earlier because i don't have the cash yet. mersi pentru noroc :D

[Taninpv]

I will never pre-order again :(
I purchased the phone for € 595,- (http://www.2call.nl/quickshop-los.php?AB_ID=0&PR_ID=10204) UK version
Now the phone is finally in stock they dropped the price to € 574,- (http://www.2call.nl/quickshop-los.php?AB_ID=0&PR_ID=10203) on the NL version ain't that a b*tch :cool:

Well, I should have order at this site.
It was $799 pre-order. Now when I checked, it is $899.

EDIT: Checked again, and it's now $950 . What is going on!?

[Noonski]

I will never pre-order again :(
I purchased the phone for € 595,- (http://www.2call.nl/quickshop-los.php?AB_ID=0&PR_ID=10204) UK version
Now the phone is finally in stock they dropped the price to € 574,- (http://www.2call.nl/quickshop-los.php?AB_ID=0&PR_ID=10203) on the NL version ain't that a b*tch :cool:


€ 574,- that's the price a store pays for the Rapheal.

[tarroyo]

I see a lot of sites & links, but are any of these sites selling them unlocked? For example DeviceWire the HTC Touch Pro is now in stock but I've searched high and low their is no information that says if the fone is unlocked or not

Does anyone know?

[b0yce]

I see a lot of sites & links, but are any of these sites selling them unlocked? For example DeviceWire the HTC Touch Pro is now in stock but I've searched high and low their is no information that says if the fone is unlocked or not

Does anyone know?

I got mine from DeviceWire, though haven't tested it I am sure it is unlocked since it is HTC Branded and how would they know what network I was on before shipping it to me!??

My SIM went straight in and worked and am sure that another operator SIM would work fine!

[Syphon Filter]

I got mine from DeviceWire, though haven't tested it I am sure it is unlocked since it is HTC Branded and how would they know what network I was on before shipping it to me!??

My SIM went straight in and worked and am sure that another operator SIM would work fine!

If you buy and HTC branded device it should be unlocked. The only time it will be locked is if you get it from your network.

[mr_Ray]

Well, Expansys are telling their usual lies about stock levels.

Site showing 37 in stock when I ordered, Currently showing 18, and is telling you that if you roder before 4:30 you'll get it next day.

Yet... order tracking shows "Estimated 3 days".

So as ever with Expansys, let the buyer beware.

[RayB]

Well, Expansys are telling their usual lies about stock levels.

Site showing 37 in stock when I ordered, Currently showing 18, and is telling you that if you roder before 4:30 you'll get it next day.

Yet... order tracking shows "Estimated 3 days".

So as ever with Expansys, let the buyer beware.

Have to agree. They are a load of liars. Ordered from the UK store on purpose to have delivered to me here in Japan. When you go through the order process it gives your pricing on shipping from the UK to worldwide. Place the order. Then get told it will first be sent to China store after the 21st then sent to Japan.

F'ing joke. Half tempted to cancel the order and see if I can grab one online from taiwan.

[bersca]

If you're not satisfied with the company you purchased from, try Clove (http://www.clove.co.uk) next time. I ordered the Hermes, Kaiser and now Raph from them and they have always been honest about stock and are very fast shippers. They estimated arrival of stock by the end of this week. It actually arrived a few days early and should be delivered to me today in Florida from the UK. Has just arrived at my local DHL facility:D Now can't wait for HardSPL to be released so I can try this AT&T ROM.

[b0yce]

I see a lot of sites & links, but are any of these sites selling them unlocked? For example DeviceWire the HTC Touch Pro is now in stock but I've searched high and low their is no information that says if the fone is unlocked or not

Does anyone know?

Just satisfied my own curiosity and can now confirm that the device is SIM Free/Unlocked. Just tested with a colleagues T-Mobile SIM Card and before you ask I am not going to test the 3G reception with that SIM! :D

If you're not satisfied with the company you purchased from, try Clove next time.

I can also vouch for DeviceWire ordered on Tuesday and took delivery Wednesday morning at 09:15! Clove would have been my second choice!

[mr_Ray]

If you're not satisfied with the company you purchased from, try Clove (http://www.clove.co.uk) next time. I ordered the Hermes, Kaiser and now Raph from them and they have always been honest about stock and are very fast shippers. They estimated arrival of stock by the end of this week. It actually arrived a few days early and should be delivered to me today in Florida from the UK. Has just arrived at my local DHL facility:D Now can't wait for HardSPL to be released so I can try this AT&T ROM.

Got to say the same, Clove have always been great with me. Unfortunately they don't do contracts on the phones.

[RayB]

wow,

thanks for the clove link. Just got off the phone with them and the order process was simple. no routing through hong kong, no "sorry i cant deal with you even though you ordered from our UK site". just a nice and easy order and delivery choice. thanks!

just canceled my expansys order. I will never go that way again.

[tarroyo]

Just Satisfied my own curiosity and can now confirm that the device is SIM Free/Unlocked. Just tested with a colleagues T-Mobile SIM Card and before you ask I am not going to test the 3G reception with that SIM! :D

Appreciate you testing, it all depends where you located if you'd be able to test T-Mobile 3G.... It hasn't launched nationwide yet :-/

I know it is available in the UK depends if the network on the pro can support 3G, Will probably have to wait for a rom to be unpacked for that

[marker6]

Have to agree. They are a load of liars. Ordered from the UK store on purpose to have delivered to me here in Japan. When you go through the order process it gives your pricing on shipping from the UK to worldwide. Place the order. Then get told it will first be sent to China store after the 21st then sent to Japan.

F'ing joke. Half tempted to cancel the order and see if I can grab one online from taiwan.

hi Ray

can I just check with you regarding the
warrranty issue ? If you got the Pro from
UK then is warranty cover by HTC Japa?
sorry if this is a silly question.
I wanted to order this form Clove UK but was told that warranty will not be covered by HTC SINGAPORE

Thanks in advance

[D8mian]

If you're not satisfied with the company you purchased from, try Clove (http://www.clove.co.uk) next time. I ordered the Hermes, Kaiser and now Raph from them and they have always been honest about stock and are very fast shippers. They estimated arrival of stock by the end of this week. It actually arrived a few days early and should be delivered to me today in Florida from the UK. Has just arrived at my local DHL facility:D Now can't wait for HardSPL to be released so I can try this AT&T ROM.

I plan on buying one, but I don't plan on waiting for AT&T to possibly carry it; therefore, I will soon order one frm UK. I hope I'll be able to use the AT&T ROM as well. Any idea when the HardSPL will be released? Thx in advance!

D

[Jorlin]

site: http://www.katshing.se
pre order: yes
release date: 14th august
swedish version with åäö keyboard.

he.. yes i am first in line:D


So was it released in sweeden with this layout?

[D8mian]

So was it released in sweeden with this layout?

It looks like there was a delay, but i dont speak swedish..so i dnt kno.

Prel lev.datum
2008-09-05

D

[rakdoll]

So was it released in sweeden with this layout?

We use the same layout here in Finland, and have confirmed release date week 34. Meaning next week.

[lbhocky19]

I plan on buying one, but I don't plan on waiting for AT&T to possibly carry it; therefore, I will soon order one frm UK. I hope I'll be able to use the AT&T ROM as well. Any idea when the HardSPL will be released? Thx in advance!

D

you dont have to wait too long it should be out within the next two months with the name fuze

[Jorlin]

We use the same layout here in Finland, and have confirmed release date week 34. Meaning next week.


Who has confirmed that? XD

[CalifornIyay]

Hey guys,
I checked the clove website and they have the HTC Touch Pro priced at £440 (£517 inc VAT). What does the VAT mean and how much is this in Americanicano dollars?
Does anyone know of any good conversion of money sites because the one I found on yahoo comes up different then what people are posting..
Thanks......

[RayB]

hi Ray

can I just check with you regarding the
warrranty issue ? If you got the Pro from
UK then is warranty cover by HTC Japa?
sorry if this is a silly question.
I wanted to order this form Clove UK but was told that warranty will not be covered by HTC SINGAPORE

Thanks in advance

Hi,

I am not 100 percent certain on that. I think it is only covered in the UK to be honest. The only reason I have not given it much thought is because if need be we have a branch office there in the UK and I can get it back there easily enough if I need to. If that fails I have to fly there a few times per year anyways for work so can always do the warranty thing when I go back.

If you do not go there, and/or do not want the hassle of mailing it back you should jsut give HTC there in Singapore a call and ask them. I can not see why they would not honor the warranty. Stupid really if they do not. Sorry I can not be of much help.

[marker6]

Hi,

I am not 100 percent certain on that. I think it is only covered in the UK to be honest. The only reason I have not given it much thought is because if need be we have a branch office there in the UK and I can get it back there easily enough if I need to. If that fails I have to fly there a few times per year anyways for work so can always do the warranty thing when I go back.

If you do not go there, and/or do not want the hassle of mailing it back you should jsut give HTC there in Singapore a call and ask them. I can not see why they would not honor the warranty. Stupid really if they do not. Sorry I can not be of much help.

Thanks for the reply ... Would call HTC on monday to clarify.
Even if HTC do not cover the warranty, am quite sure most of the problems
can be solved unless it's the hardware.

[D8mian]

you dont have to wait too long it should be out within the next two months with the name fuze

fuze? do you have any more details on this? thx!

D

[OregonAird]

Does anyone know when this will be released by Orange UK as a subsidized phone ?

I cannot find any info about it anywhere.

[lbhocky19]

fuze? do you have any more details on this? thx!

D

engadget mobile had a story yesterday about the name and said it should be relased "sooner rather than later"
and a guy in the thread about the only owner of the att one said he works for att and should be out next month

[SchefNRG]

T-Mobile AT confirmed release on week 38

[rakdoll]

Who has confirmed that? XD

www.htc-finland.fi

though now it seems that they are going to sell the UK-keyboard at first, which is mad here in Finland! :| So I guess we still have to wait for the finnish/swedish keyboard.

[Noonski]

I hate this Forum ;)

I could order the UK WWE version right now this moment and play with it tomorow.

But nooooh i had this crazy idea to Order the NL version so i would have all the original MUI files and Raw Backup's.

Blegh i CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMore.

Can't wait it's worse then christmas when i was a ten year old.

So i'll make this a demoicratic thing.

Wait 5 (or maybe even 7 days longer)
or order Today.

I leave it to the Wisdom of the wise ;)

[Bxsteez]

For those buying the HTC Touch pro for the US. www.SuperGPS.co.uk is no longer shipping to US because of the devices being stolen in the mail or some crap. SO DON'T TRY AND PAY BY PAYPAL BANK TRANSFER CAUSE THEN U HAVE TO WAIT 3-5 DAYS TO GET UR MONEY BACK.


As u can tell it happened to me :(

[Noonski]

Well i was sooner then later.

I had just ordered the WWE version and the day after the NL was available (today) at Smartphoneshop.

Any other Dutch Shops selling at the moment?

[OregonAird]

Anyone any news on when the UK operators are going to have these phones ? I heard vodaphone maybe end of month, but I'm with orange ?

[Halfpenny]

Well i was sooner then later.

I had just ordered the WWE version and the day after the NL was available (today) at Smartphoneshop.

Any other Dutch Shops selling at the moment?

If your travelling anytime soon from Schiphol they have it in now. I bought it this morning for EUR630.

Can't wait to get back tonight to charge it an have a play !!

[gorrynel]

Just got off the phone with at AT&T store in NY they will be available at the end of September.

:D I can't wait!:D

[l33tphreak]

@gorrynel: How did you get them to give you information like that? I've been trying to sneak that info out of my AT&T rep at my local store since the end of July and he just keeps saying cryptic things like "well it might be on my list and it might not" and "well yea I think we're getting it but I really don't know when" as he starts looking at the floor and the ceiling and trying to avoid my question. I've been trying to get a firm release date for AT&T because my contract is due for upgrade and my mom is dying to get her hands on my 8125/Wizard.

[gorrynel]

I got the same answers from my local store in OH but I called a store in Manhattan and he said the third week of September, I called another store in New York City and they said the same.

[Funky B]

I can confirm that AT&T is telling staff during training that the device will launch at the end of September, but only time will tell...

[Tregrad]

anyone know about when sprint will get thier hands on it?

[yerp]

anyone know about when sprint will get thier hands on it?

i've heard rumors of Oct. 2....hopefully that is true...tired of seeing iphones at work.....

[TheBundo]

I've been trying to get a firm release date for AT&T because my contract is due for upgrade and my mom is dying....

Sorry about your mom. Does she know?

[pazookie]

does anyone remember how much the tilt was last black friday and if you could UPGRADE to get it at that price or was it a new customer only deal?...im deciding on whether to sell my tilt now $300-350 (craigslist) and use my old 2125 smartphone until the release and upgrade or wait till black friday and try to sell my tilt the week of or a few weeks before. Last time i sold my 8525 for $290 and got a new tilt for $350 (december 07).

[demonizator]

Hi guys,

How can I check what version of the Pro am I getting - Asian, European, etc.? Looked at the wiki and found CIDs - can I check what CID it is before I buy it?

Thanks,

Looging forward to getting my Pro next week,

dEM