Raphael Release Dates / Preorders etc..

[mrvanx]

Figured a thread would be good to see when the Raphael is rumoured to be released and up for sale around the globe.

Perhaps replying in the following format would be useful:

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Country: UK
Site/Vendor: MobileFun.co.uk (http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/)
Date of Release: TBA
Offers Pre-Order: Yes

Comments Below:

Currently still waiting on the dates from the site but they have a section already set up for the Touch Pro (Raphael) (http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/cat/HTC-Touch-Pro.htm) and assure me they are offering preorders once they have more info from HTC. Bought my Hermes from them and they were excellent to deal with.


Dear MrVanx,

We will have it on pre order sometime next week and we will definitely be selling it.

Thanks


This was a responce back in June, theyve been really good before so there must be a delay getting info from HTC perhaps.

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EDIT:: Ive added the release info to the Raphael Wiki pages HERE (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_Vendors)

[nolovelust]

expansys says it will be on sale on 4th of august

[mrvanx]

lol well that lasted long!

Lets try and get the info into the thread guys, like the template above.

[orb3000]

Country: Mexico
Site/Vendor: http://www.expansys.com.mx/p.aspx?i=169845
Date of Release: Aug 4
Offers Pre-Order: Yes
Price: 14,734.95 Mexican Peso = 1,450.65 US Dollar

Impossible to buy it here!

Cheers

[Noonski]

Country: NL
Site/Vendor: smartphoneshop.nl (http://www.smartphoneshop.nl/product/54045/htc-touch-pro-nl.html)
Date of Release: TBA
Offers Pre-Order: No

First in Line

[twisted-pixel]

I've been watching for release of this for a few months now. so....

Country: UK
Site/Vendor: expansys
Date of Release: 4th August (rumoured)
Offers Pre-Order: Yes

Country: UK
Site/Vendor: HTC Direct
Date of Release: 30th August
Offers Pre-Order: Yes

Country: UK
Site/Vendor: Handtec
Date of Release: Mid August
Offers Pre-Order: Yes

Country: UK
Site/Vendor: Devicewire
Date of Release: TBA
Offers Pre-Order: Not last time I checked

[kforman3]

on these uk sites can u still buy if your in the U.S.??? and if so will it b more money???

[smaberg]

site: http://www.katshing.se
pre order: yes
release date: 14th august
swedish version with åäö keyboard.

he.. yes i am first in line:D

[WDawn]

site: http://www.netintro.be
pre order: yes
release date: second week of august
Price: 627,99 € incl. VAT

[WDawn]

site: http://www.expansys.be/p.aspx?i=169420
pre order: yes
release date: 5 august
Price: 664,96 € incl. VAT

[compact_bijou]

The MDA Vario IV is available from t-mobile UK and has been available for about 1 week.

I can have one now for £130 or I can wait a 2 bill cycles and have one for free.

Decisions, decisions :D

[edgie168]

on these uk sites can u still buy if your in the U.S.??? and if so will it b more money???Usually yes and yes. But what would be the point if you get the Euro version to use in the 'States (I'm assuming it'll be primarily used in the 'States, right?) when it won't support AT&T's 3G frequencies? It'll still work, but you'd be running on EDGE at best and for a phone like this, it's a little silly...

[mrvanx]

The MDA Vario IV is available from t-mobile UK and has been available for about 1 week.

I can have one now for £130 or I can wait a 2 bill cycles and have one for free.

Decisions, decisions :D

Whereabouts is it on thier site? All I can see is the MDA Compact IV (Diamond)

[mrvanx]

Usually yes and yes. But what would be the point if you get the Euro version to use in the 'States (I'm assuming it'll be primarily used in the 'States, right?) when it won't support AT&T's 3G frequencies? It'll still work, but you'd be running on EDGE at best and for a phone like this, it's a little silly...

Isnt 3G in the states 2100MHz??

[mlekas]

so it will come to US shores:

http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=169845

Release date is listed as 4th August. Note the radio data:

HSDPA/WCDMA:
- Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
- Up to 384 kbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
* Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz (Band frequency and data speed are operator dependent)

So this suggests HSDPA but not UPA. Also shows Quad-band GSM, but then has that odd parenthetical comment about operators...

So do these frequencies support US (e.g. AT&T) HSDPA? GSM seems to be covered.


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[Squeaky369]

Yeah; it doesn't look like it will be US 3G compatible. Which sucks; a lot.

I think the US 3G is at 850 MHz... And the world bands are the 900/2100MHz. I know that GSM/GPRS/EDGE runs on 850 already, but that's how the US is...

[pazookie]

USA 3g/umts frequencies are 1900..maybe 850 in the future but not anytime soon

[compact_bijou]

Whereabouts is it on thier site? All I can see is the MDA Compact IV (Diamond)

It won't be on the t-mobile web site for "another few weeks" but it is available now to those who qualify for an upgrade or have the sponds.

[Johnston411]

The MDA Vario IV is available from t-mobile UK and has been available for about 1 week.

I can have one now for £130 or I can wait a 2 bill cycles and have one for free.

Decisions, decisions :D

It's not out yet. Probably not till mid August

[compact_bijou]

It's not out yet. Probably not till mid August

The MDA Vario IV, categorically, is available now. It has been available for "about a week" it will not appear on the website "for a few more weeks"

I can have one delivered tomorrow (but I prefer to wait until I get it for free)

The initial offer may only be open to "high value, long term customers".

when I called to enquire about availability of the Diamond (compact IV) last Sunday I was told there were about 22 left out of 70 available
but I was not given any information about the MDA Vario IV being available, despite asking.

As usual, not all CSRs are as clued up as they ought to be but what I've written here is fact.

IF you can prove otherwise, please do. I have been around long enough to know not to post inaccurate information.

If you have been TOLD otherwise, please make that clear, that you were told otherwise ;)

[EViS]

Popped into the O2 Strand, London store today to enquire about a release date. I was told by the salesman in a rather 'definitive' voice that O2 will be releasing the Diamond & Touch Pro (Diamond Pro?) at the same time in early September.

We'll wait and see :).

Country: UK
Site/Vendor: O2
Date of Release: Early September
Offers Pre-Order: No

[foo]

O2 Germany will release it most likely in cw36 - first week of September.

[compact_bijou]

Order placed. If I'd placed the order yesterday the device would have been with me now :(

t-mobile UK started receiving stock 2 weeks ago, current stock levels at -6

Orders are coming in in batches of 4 to 5 hundred and going out the door as fast as they come in.

Another delivery is due in tomorrow and mine should be with me on Friday for a very well negotiated price of £80 ... back of the net :D

If anyone wants to post a URL for a method of extracting a fresh t-mobile ROM please do. I'll upload it somewhere as soon as I can ;)

Country: UK
Site/Vendor: t-mobile
Date of Release: "couple of weeks ago"
Offers Pre-Order: YES

[md2]

Is that the MDA Vario IV?

[compact_bijou]

Is that the MDA Vario IV?

Yes, it is.

[se4me]

I can also confirm T Mobile UK have stock of the Vario IV, I am due an upgrade next month CS did say a couple of weeks ago I could upgrade a couple months before but the discount would not be as good as I were to wait. So roll on August ;)

[spzero]

t-mobile had a stock of 200 units but sold out in 10 mins according to my local shop

[compact_bijou]

t-mobile had a stock of 200 units but sold out in 10 mins according to my local shop

they are flying out .. catch the buzz :D

[gospelflyer]

Given that the diamond was released to blow the i phone out of the water (which in my opinion it did). I am suprised that mobile phone companies do not spend more time making people aware of their up and coming releases.
Surely an effective sale pitch has to be key to advertising, then again i fix helicopters what do I know about advertising?

[Riccardinho]

I can also confirm T Mobile UK have stock of the Vario IV, I am due an upgrade next month CS did say a couple of weeks ago I could upgrade a couple months before but the discount would not be as good as I were to wait. So roll on August ;)

Same for me - can upgrade from a Vario 2 on August 31st. Was really close to jumping ship for the iPhone until a mate demoed one yesterday and the first AppStore app he showed off caused the phone to reboot. So why go from an o/s that is generally reliable with a few glitches to another o/s that is generally reliable with a few glitches and forego FM Radio, QWERTY and AD2P I now ask myself...

[andreyamaguti]

in the ebay they are already selling, but the price is a quite high (950 usd and 1050usd)!!

[mrvanx]

in the ebay they are already selling, but the price is a quite high (950 usd and 1050usd)!!

LOL remember, proceed with caution. Its VERY likely the m\jority of the touch pros advertised on ebay are a total scam.

[kbdirtydjs]

Order placed. If I'd placed the order yesterday the device would have been with me now :(

t-mobile UK started receiving stock 2 weeks ago, current stock levels at -6

Orders are coming in in batches of 4 to 5 hundred and going out the door as fast as they come in.

Another delivery is due in tomorrow and mine should be with me on Friday for a very well negotiated price of £80 ... back of the net :D

If anyone wants to post a URL for a method of extracting a fresh t-mobile ROM please do. I'll upload it somewhere as soon as I can ;)

Country: UK
Site/Vendor: t-mobile
Date of Release: "couple of weeks ago"
Offers Pre-Order: YES

I called them Yesterday and they tried to fob me off with a Compact IV instead and said that the Compact VI was the MDA IV... I told the guy he was wrong and I would wait.

Will try again every day from now on and let you guys know.

Still they got a cheek trying to sell me the wrong phone!!!

[kbdirtydjs]

Ok I called them back and I wil be getting my Vario IV before 1pm tomorrow.

So if anyone wants one on T-Mobile then call them today!!!

Country: UK
Site/Vendor: t-mobile
Date of Release: "couple of weeks ago"
Offers Pre-Order: YES

[jasjamming]

is the raphael on a long term contract or outright. if its outright, how much and I hope they deliver to Oz.

[twisted-pixel]

I've been with T-mob for over a year now, but on sim only as I've always bought my phones sim free. so I think my chances of getting one from them are slim.

I've been on the waiting list at expansys since May though so hopefully I'll be among the first to get a device when they get stock. even if I do have to wait another 2 weeks.

the good thing is that by then, maybe people will have ironed out some of the bugs (surely there wont be any ;) )

[mrvanx]

is the raphael on a long term contract or outright. if its outright, how much and I hope they deliver to Oz.

Contract dude, im with tmob but Im gonna go for the Touch PRO rather than the Vario 4. Like to keep a bit flexible when it comes to a contract ;)

Besides the mrs will get the new handset i get with my upgrade.

[compact_bijou]

UPDATE:

It would seem I have been made an offer by t-mobile which cannot yet be fulfilled: The vario IV, it transpires, may not be available. :mad:

Two t-mobile CSRs have made a serious error and offered me the Vario IV when they shouldn't have. However, on the upside, that offer is in writing.

I intend to get to the bottom of this situation and, more importantly, hold them to the offer they made to me the term ' loss of bargain ' springs to mind.

/developing

[compact_bijou]

Ok I called them back and I wil be getting my Vario IV before 1pm tomorrow.

So if anyone wants one on T-Mobile then call them today!!!

Country: UK
Site/Vendor: t-mobile
Date of Release: "couple of weeks ago"
Offers Pre-Order: YES

Don't hold your breath, there seems to be a lot of confusion in the loyalty department at t-mobile :mad:

I hope they haven't sent you a Compact IV

[kbdirtydjs]

Don't hold your breath, there seems to be a lot of confusion in the loyalty department at t-mobile :mad:

I hope they haven't sent you a Compact IV

Well if they have it will be going straight back!

[spzero]

just ordered minewill be here tomoorow but will be at work n then got people around in the evening so wont get to play till saturday....... By the way T-Mobile UK now have 4 units left......... :D

[kbdirtydjs]

Don't hold your breath, there seems to be a lot of confusion in the loyalty department at t-mobile :mad:

I hope they haven't sent you a Compact IV

I have just been on the phone to T-Mobile and they are indeed selling people MDA Compact IV's instead of MDA Vario IV's.

Its going straight back tomorrow!!!!!!!! :mad:

[chaps]

I have just been on the phone to T-Mobile and they are indeed selling people MDA Compact IV's instead of MDA Vario IV's.

Its going straight back tomorrow!!!!!!!! :mad:

De ja vue. T-mo did the same thing last year with the Vario IIIs and Compact IIIs !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331370&page=4

[kbdirtydjs]

De ja vue. T-mo did the same thing last year with the Vario IIIs and Compact IIIs !

Grrrrrrrr was all exited now just pissed off. Oh well at least I still have my upgrade for when it does come out :)

[spzero]

just ordered minewill be here tomoorow but will be at work n then got people around in the evening so wont get to play till saturday....... By the way T-Mobile UK now have 4 units left......... :D

Yep they got me too and I did ask if it was the VARIO IV when i rang back the order sheet showed COMPACT IV. plain annoying

[mean-machine]

This is what I was thinking, I took Compact IV for my missus on Monday and she let me play with it until Saturday. When I heard that I could get Vario IV I was a bit disappointed, but I thought that some idiots in T-Mobile could mistake Compact IV for Vario IV, they may have thought that it's the same stuff, or the customer doesn't know, and they know better...

[untjoker]

Ok now it's super weird...NOW on the Touch Pro instead of omitting 850mHz, they have quad band EDGE but left out the 850mHz hsdpa? what the heck is going on with HTC? I just don't get it. why would you alienate an entire country of smartphone users by omitting the 850 band? Even if it has something to do with the qualcomm legal dispute, don't they realize that if someone is roaming to the US from overseas that it won't becuase it's missing that bad? pathetic....

[Johnston411]

The MDA Vario IV, categorically, is available now. It has been available for "about a week" it will not appear on the website "for a few more weeks"

I can have one delivered tomorrow (but I prefer to wait until I get it for free)

The initial offer may only be open to "high value, long term customers".

when I called to enquire about availability of the Diamond (compact IV) last Sunday I was told there were about 22 left out of 70 available
but I was not given any information about the MDA Vario IV being available, despite asking.

As usual, not all CSRs are as clued up as they ought to be but what I've written here is fact.

IF you can prove otherwise, please do. I have been around long enough to know not to post inaccurate information.

If you have been TOLD otherwise, please make that clear, that you were told otherwise ;)

Well i'd better start with an apology. My information was misguided. ;)

Uk
T-mobile
Out Now (6 left around 2.30pm today)
£32.50 (wnw flext 30 £100 handset <would have been free on combi 40>)

Mines arriving by 11am tomorrow. :D

[compact_bijou]

Well i'd better start with an apology. My information was misguided. ;)

Uk
T-mobile
Out Now (6 left around 2.30pm today)
£32.50 (wnw flext 30 £100 handset <would have been free on combi 40>)

Mines arriving by 11am tomorrow. :D

Heh, you sure it's an MDA Vario IV and not a Compact IV ?

There's some severe mistakes being made at the moment, best of luck but I think they've probably shipped you a compact :(

[Johnston411]

Heh, you sure it's an MDA Vario IV and not a Compact IV ?

There's some severe mistakes being made at the moment, best of luck but I think they've probably shipped you a compact :(

Bugger.

i'd better phone up and check.

Take it you got a compact?

edit: They say they can't even check which i've been sent as direct sales are shut.

[compact_bijou]

Bugger.

i'd better phone up and check.

Take it you got a compact?

edit: They say they can't even check which i've been sent as direct sales are shut.

Non existent order canceled until Vario stock in hand, probably mid august when they "will be tested for 2 weeks to ensure stability" before being released.

I was awaiting a call back re delivery and I didn't get the call, so I called and questioned stock levels only to be told, again categorically, that there was no stock.

The coward who led me down the garden path didn't have the nuts to call and apologise :rolleyes:

/goes back to square one :mad:

[Johnston411]

I suppose I should have trusted my instinct.

still i get to play with the compact for a few days so it's not all bad. ;)

[md2]

I don't think its entirely fair to blame the t-mobile staff, if people ring asking for a phone that they dont have but sounds very similar to what they DO have then its an easy mistake to make.

Buoyed by the definitive statements in this thread I rang two different advisors today, one was very helpful and even rang around the warehouse and a shop and ended up saying they didn't have any and they would be in after 2nd week in august.

[jasjamming]

well i guess we just have to wait till AUg 4 or thereafter to obtain one.
there are a couple of ebay power sellers in Aus that stock the diamond and will have the touch pro soon as well for a much cheaper price.

e.g. diamond sells for $685AU from ebay shops in Aus so Im assuming the touch pro will be a 100 or so more expensive.

[auriken]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-HTC-Touch-PRO-Unlocked-GPS-WiFi-3-2MP-QUAD_W0QQitemZ300244612099QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 300244612099

hmmmm... sounds good?

[jasjamming]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-HTC-Touch-PRO-Unlocked-GPS-WiFi-3-2MP-QUAD_W0QQitemZ300244612099QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 300244612099

hmmmm... sounds good?

it sounds good at this stage, but in 2-3 weeks time 1049US is a rip off on ebay as it will most likely be 800US or so.

[compact_bijou]

I don't think its entirely fair to blame the t-mobile staff

I think it's entirely reasonable to expect someone on £15,700 + commission (pa) to be able to differentiate between the words "Compact" and "Vario"

Even if they are Welsh :p

[jasjamming]

I think it's entirely reasonable to expect someone on £15,700 + commission (pa) to be able to differentiate between the words "Compact" and "Vario"

Even if they are Welsh :p

there is no excuse for the mix up. tmobile is the culprit by not training their staff accordingly.

[robpet2]

cannot wait for this to be released for tmobile usa..

[Johnston411]

there is no excuse for the mix up. tmobile is the culprit by not training their staff accordingly.

I'd make you right.

i got a diamond/victor today and when i called to explain this the guy in direct sales i spoke to was completely confused by the whole situation.

I even directed him to the home page of htc's website to show him the difference between the devices.

Not really his fault for not being trained though. I guess t-mobiles customer services must spend days of wasted man hours on things like this.

Still the diamond is pretty impressive nonetheless.

[FabriceG]

Hi all,
I found an information about touch pro in preorder on http://iteurope.eu

Touch pro in English : in stock on August, 11
Touch pro in French : in stock on August, 10
Price : 689 euros

Note that I didn't know this site before :p

Good day

[Daniel1515]

Expansys
Country: Australia
Price: Not announced yet
URL: http://www.expansys.com.au/p.aspx?i=169558
Pre-orders: yes

[cassiano]

Country: Brasil
Site/Vendor: Expansys Brasil
Date of Release: August, 4th (my birthday!) lol
Offers Pre-Order: Yes
Price:US $969,95
URL: http://www.expansys.com.br/d.aspx?i=169845

Comments: as far as I know, they ship everywhere and are US based...
And the price is without the inclusion of import/export taxes and shipment

That's it.

[spzero]

I used to work for o2 in collections and it is there fault the (t-mobile) retentions team (the people you ring for an upgrade) gennerally get every new high level phone they are releasing and keep these for free (my friend at o2 just got a i-phone 3g and blackberry bold in the last month) there job is to know about phones and there are paid more than customer services because they are a speciallist department they are paid to know better.. i know what i asked for and the advisor was talking about the handset i even mentioned the hardware keyboard he knew what i ment but shipped the compact by the time we have sorted this problem out with returns etc they will have stock of what we want and they will have done there job by keeping the customer but it is downright wrong what they do..

but as i get 50% discount on o2 i might just get my diamond from them!!!!

I don't think its entirely fair to blame the t-mobile staff, if people ring asking for a phone that they dont have but sounds very similar to what they DO have then its an easy mistake to make.

Buoyed by the definitive statements in this thread I rang two different advisors today, one was very helpful and even rang around the warehouse and a shop and ended up saying they didn't have any and they would be in after 2nd week in august.

[technillion]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-HTC-Touch-PRO-Unlocked-GPS-WiFi-3-2MP-QUAD_W0QQitemZ300244612099QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 300244612099

hmmmm... sounds good?

How can this guy have 17 units??? AND in the US?????? ...when they're not even available anywhere else in the world??? Since when did ANY HTC device become available in the US FIRST????

Sounds suspicious to me...BUT he DOES have the ratings that he's a stand up seller.

I asked to see real pictures of the boxed units and a few other questions that he should be able to answer assuming he really has them.

I hope they are "real" and ooooohhh I can't wait to get my hands on it!!!

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[licht77]

T-Mobile
Country: Austria
Price: Not announced yet
Release date: 4th August (most shops will receive the delivery on 6th August)
Pre-orders: not necessary as they will receive "enough" in stock...

[LuCain]

Czech republic
in stock: first half of august
preorders: yes
price: 15000Kc, ~636€, ~$1000

//update: available on 32nd week (4.-10.8.)

[foregister]

Hungary
In stock: 4th August (expansys), 5th-8th August (Speedshop)
Preorders: yes (expansys, speedshop, origogsm)
Prices:
- Speedshop, OrigoGSM: 149 000 HUF (€644, $1010) (free shipping or local pickup)
- Expansys.hu: 158 000 HUF (€682) incl. shipping (courier: TNT)
- Expansys.co.uk: 158 500 HUF (541 GBP, €684) incl. shipping (courier: DHL)

[mbarabas]

Prices in hungary:
- 220volt : 159.500 HUF + free shipping [€696]
- Speedshop : 159.900 HUF + free shipping [€698]
- CentrumGSM : 159.900 HUF + 2000 HUF [€698 + €9]
- NoteBookZone : 159.990 HUF + free shipping [€698.5]
- PDAStore : 159.990 HUF + free shipping [€698.5]
- OrigoGSM : 175.900 HUF + 2000 HUF [€768 + €9]

- Expansys.hu : 150.000 HUF + 5.250 HUF [€655 + €23]

/update for the comment above :)/

[mrvanx]

People, add the info to the wiki list ;)

[mlekas]

read the feedback, especially negatives - he is not a seller, just a drop-shipper & gets material from elsewhere. Some feedback talks about shipping from Hong Kong!

[technillion]

...he is not a seller, just a drop-shipper

Good catch but I guess I'm OK with that....especially if he gets them in stock early and I receive mine early.

Is there some major RISK that I don't know about when dealing with drop shippers?

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[mike-]

Anyways... this one would not support HSDPA/3G in the US. Can't imagine to pay taht price and use slow damn speed access to the Internet.

[jasjamming]

some bad news unforutanely.

just spoke to a special someone and the raphael wont be released till end of AUG 08.

that special someone works for HTC in Singapore.

[lepes]

expansys.com.gr is promising 8 days delivery ,i hope your friend is wrong.
i need this phone to enjoy my vacations :)

[WDawn]

http://www.expansys.be/p.aspx?i=169420

Expansys Belgium says that their supplier have it in stock already. This changed this morning.

[mrvanx]

some bad news unforutanely.

just spoke to a special someone and the raphael wont be released till end of AUG 08.

that special someone works for HTC in Singapore.

Im weary of first batch devices anyways dude, remember the SA issues with the pre 630 batch of the Hermes? :)

Looks like my Raph will be purchased around september time, Ofcourse cooking is already on the go but I doubt I'll release anything ;)

[Noonski]

some bad news unforutanely.

just spoke to a special someone and the raphael wont be released till end of AUG 08.

that special someone works for HTC in Singapore.

Confirmed.

smartphoneshop.nl
Just put i up for pre- order to dfeliver at the eigth of Aug.
That's just a few weeks from now and the price has gone down from 689.- to 649, Euro's. But their not offering it with Contracts for that date yet.

These guys are damn reliable.

[Dionysis]

Does the order you place on smartphoneshop.nl contains the T-Mobile ROM / Case?

And is there any info on when the Pro is released in the shops?

[Noonski]

Does the order you place on smartphoneshop.nl contains the T-Mobile ROM / Case?

And is there any info on when the Pro is released in the shops?

HTC branded Diamond Back Version.

T-Mobile Is expecting a month later just like the Diamond.

Shops should be a couple of days later, But Dates might shift as ussual but this is looking fairly tight.

[WDawn]

Confirmed.

smartphoneshop.nl
Just put i up for pre- order to dfeliver at the eigth of Aug.
That's just a few weeks from now and the price has gone down from 689.- to 649, Euro's. But their not offering it with Contracts for that date yet.

These guys are damn reliable.

Do you mean confirmed as in "delayed to the end of august"? Or that your order is confirmed?

[foo]

It's a little bit confusing anyway. Is it delayed until the 8th of August or is it delayed until the end of August?

[technillion]

Anyways... this one would not support HSDPA/3G in the US. Can't imagine to pay taht price and use slow damn speed access to the Internet.

Now that the Touch Diamond supports 850/1900mhz for US 3G/HSxPA, I was told the Touch Pro would have the same.

I agree with you though, that if it doesn't...I wouldn't pay a GRAND for a 2G capable device.

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[Noonski]

Do you mean confirmed as in "delayed to the end of august"? Or that your order is confirmed?

NoWhat i meant is that the dutch T-Mobil Shopmanager told me that he had expected the Diamond (t-mobile version) earlier and he expects the Touch Pro to be later in October for T-Mobile Netherlands.

On Smartphone shop i'm pretty sure they are spot on. But they are always bound by What HTC does. BUt they have a good rep so i don't think they will squander that on a wrong release date.

But me i have to wait personally till august 28th to prolong my contract, by that date they will propable also be selling the pro with contracts.

Also looking at how they went down to 499 Euros on the Diamond, i'm hoping the Pro also does well so they can bring down the price because of high volumes. Hey if i know i'm getting it i might as well go for the best deal. Still fiddling around with my Touch anyway so i can wait.

A Little ;)

[jwhitham]

I see Play.com have brought their date forward to the 4th Aug when it was saying 29th or so.

http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/5817858/HTC-Touch-Pro-Sim-Free-Unlocked-Mobile-Phone/Product.html

[jcespi2005]

Country: Spain
Site/Vendor: http://www.expansys.es/p.aspx?i=169426 (http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/)
Date of Release: 04 sep 08
Offers Pre-Order: Yes

Price: €649,95 (560,30 Sin IVA)

Cheers

[Jorlin]

Right now it seems that a release of the english version (QWERTY) of the Touch Pro is likely for the second or third week of August. As usual localized versions follow about two to three weeks later...

The fact that HTC released this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pENEldRxuwQ) might be another indicatior that the release is closer than we might think...

I am looking forward for the German version :D

[jasjamming]

be careful of retail outlets, they like to give you a hyped up release date to get your business, but I heard from the horses mouth its end of august.

[Noonski]

be careful of retail outlets, they like to give you a hyped up release date to get your business, but I heard from the horses mouth its end of august.


I'm willing to take bets, to fund it for myself.

[Jorlin]

Country: DE
Site/Vendor: Amazon.de (http://www.amazon.de/HTC-Touch-Screen-Tastatur-Smartphone-Branding/dp/B001ARI9KA/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1216302642&sr=8-11)
Date of Release: TBA
Offers Pre-Order: Yes
Price: €649.97

[mike-]

Now that the Touch Diamond supports 850/1900mhz for US 3G/HSxPA, I was told the Touch Pro would have the same.

I agree with you though, that if it doesn't...I wouldn't pay a GRAND for a 2G capable device.

T
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Hmmmm where did you read that the Diamond support 850/1900mhz for US 3G/HSxPA? The HTC firmware release talk about the 850 GSM...

[jasjamming]

I'm willing to take bets, to fund it for myself.

im going to do the same also, but im not getting my hopes up.

also, HTC tend to change their TFT display after the first batch of production to save costs in the long run, and usually their first batch has better screens.

[Raspster]

Given that the diamond was released to blow the i phone out of the water (which in my opinion it did). I am suprised that mobile phone companies do not spend more time making people aware of their up and coming releases.
Surely an effective sale pitch has to be key to advertising, then again i fix helicopters what do I know about advertising?

It did not blow the iPhone out of the water. The iPhone is mainly a US marketed phone which is where they sold most of them. There is not even a US version of the diamod that allows it to take advantage of the 3g band!

[jagnet]

Country: IRELAND
Site/Vendor: Expansys IRELAND
Date of Release: August, 4th ("expexcted" release date)
Offers Pre-Order: Yes
Price:EU €664.96 (549.55 exc.)
URL: http://www.expansys.ie/p.aspx?i=169424

[ferraripassion]

I feel it is too pricy. 664 odd Euro is a lot :(

[robpet2]

anyone know the release dates of the US tmobile version or if its even coming to tmobile USA??

[pazookie]

i doubt tmobile until they get their 3g up because this device is marketed for hsdpa and umts and tmobile doesnt support that so it would be a waste of a device on their network until they join in with the big boys and revamp their data network

[EViS]

i doubt tmobile until they get their 3g up because this device is marketed for hsdpa and umts and tmobile doesnt support that so it would be a waste of a device on their network until they join in with the big boys and revamp their data network

Do O2 (UK) support HSDPA?

[churchwa]

Do O2 (UK) support HSDPA?

Yes they do

[robpet2]

i doubt tmobile until they get their 3g up because this device is marketed for hsdpa and umts and tmobile doesnt support that so it would be a waste of a device on their network until they join in with the big boys and revamp their data network

i would really hate to switch to att or sprint, but they have faster internet and 3g and better signal in some areas... and sprint has unlimited everything plan for 99 bucks a month.

[auriken]

t-mobile launched their 3g network in new york and from what a csr told me they will be rolling out in 20 more markets before the end of this year. she also told me the bands for 3g were 1700 - 2100.

i hope they didnt get my hopes up for nothing...

[th1nm1nt]

Man...can't wait to get my Touch Pro. I ordered from the first legit seller on ebay to post the offer. Paid almost $1100 to get it, but was the third to order on the US' Ebay site. It sucks there is no firm date on when it is released...reading through this post makes it sound like as long as September (though that is what I was planning for anyways). My wife just got her new LG, so I need something to play with!

[dwella]

t-mobile launched their 3g network in new york and from what a csr told me they will be rolling out in 20 more markets before the end of this year. she also told me the bands for 3g were 1700 - 2100.

i hope they didnt get my hopes up for nothing...

Several knowlegeable folks on this board have stated it is comming to ATT and not tmob.

d

[mrvanx]

Several knowlegeable folks on this board have stated it is comming to ATT and not tmob.

d

Whats stopping it coming to both?? ;)

Here in the UK O2, Tmobile, Orange and vodafone are most likely to get it, under thier respective XDA, MDA, VPA and M guises.

[l3it3r]

I will be picking this up once I see confirmation that it works on ATT.

[beast0898]

be careful of retail outlets, they like to give you a hyped up release date to get your business, but I heard from the horses mouth its end of august.


I too heard end of August/ early September.

I have pre-ordered through Expansys who are sure they will have stock by the 4th August and delivered by the 7th August to consumers who pre-order.

They had a 1oo units on the first order with 89 pre-ordered when I booked mine.


Cheers,


Beasty

[KyleK29]

So do we have any idea if AT&T will be picking this up? I'm eligible for an upgrade soon.

[technillion]

I will be picking this up once I see confirmation that it works on ATT.

Many folks who have the DIAMOND say it works on US ATT but WITHOUT 3G/HSxPA...buit it DOES work.

For me it's hard to justify the price without 3G.

T
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[mike-]

Many folks who have the DIAMOND say it works on US ATT but WITHOUT 3G/HSxPA...buit it DOES work.

For me it's hard to justify the price without 3G.

T
E
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You are currently using the DIAMOND on US ATT in 3g?!

[auriken]

Several knowlegeable folks on this board have stated it is comming to ATT and not tmob.

d


im sorry, what i meant to say is that the euro touch pro could work in the t-mobile usa network when they roll out with their 3g

[twisted-pixel]

well, I guess that for some people...it's only a week to wait...if stories are to be believed.

I'm hoping I'll be one of those people having had mine on pre-order since beginning of june.

Incidentally, htc-direct also says 4th August and still have some available for pre order according to their website....so maybe people should shoot right over there!!

[steveoidm]

Just ordered from clove.co.uk as I have used them before. Checked that I would get one from their first batch and they said they have plenty of stock coming in, so initial pre-orders available there too.

[ardsar]

The following site is also taking pre - orders and have 50 left. In fact the web site looks exactly the same as HTC Direct! Providing HTC supply quantities quoted, there appears to be a surplus around.

http://www.inkino.co.uk/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=135&products_id=2384

[steveoidm]

They both use zen cart, thats why. Not related to each other I dont think, may be wrong though!

[technillion]

You are currently using the DIAMOND on US ATT in 3g?!

From what I know, US ATT Diamond owners are using it at EDGE speeds ONLY.

T
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[lepes]

From the expanys forum :(
We've just learned from HTC that English version of Touch Pro has been postponed.

First batch should be shipped from Taiwan at the end of week 32.

[twisted-pixel]

delayed by one week then...which no doubt will become two weeks....then three weeks...I wish they would just be honest and advise exactly when it will be.

[poloa]

will this phone work on verizon in USA its a cdma network?

[onesolo]

This was expected, expansys and only a few more stores had 4 of August and the rest had late dates...

[twisted-pixel]

will this phone work on verizon in USA its a cdma network?

and this has exactly what to do with release dates?

[Jim Chapman]

As of an hour or so back, the eXpansys UK site is now advertising release date 13th August :(

[WDawn]

Ouch, PDAshop in Belgium just delayed the delivery date from 8 august to 22 august

http://www.pdashop.be/product/54046/htc-touch-pro-uk.html

That's another two weeks..

[Xtreme XL]

Ouch, PDAshop in Belgium just delayed the delivery date from 8 august to 22 august

the same here in the Netherlands:(
the 8th of august sounded to good to be true....

[Syphon Filter]

It'll be September I reckon.

[Doug2873]

It'll be September I reckon.

greeeeeaaaattttt...means it probably won't be on ATT until Thanksgiving/Black Friday

[auriken]

expansys USA moved it from the 4th to the 13th

it really doesnt matter to me if they move it back now, cause then that would mean i wont be starving the day after i bought it, lol

[ez345]

I just hope that maybe a week after the initial release they will lower the price....i know its superior to the diamond but its lookin like $300 more than it, even though the touch pro doesnt have the 4 gb internal storage

[WDawn]

Just ordered mine with Expansys Belgium :D. Release 14th of august. Thought i'd share that with you, cuz there are few people that understand my joy when i talk about a new phone :D

[Syphon Filter]

Interesting, I've had "confirmation" from a UK retailer that stock is due in on either the 13th or 14th.

"...We strongly do not expect another delay going by the indications from HTC and their channels."

[psperos]

greeeeeaaaattttt...means it probably won't be on ATT until Thanksgiving/Black Friday

i think even with a contracted discount it will be at least 400 through at&t or more, what do you guys think?

Given i have been using a treo750 since feb07, this is the longest i have ever had a single phone and i would be willing pay an extra 500 to get the pro 3 months early.

[Syphon Filter]

The Touch Pro will be around the £500 mark in the UK, this much I would bet my bottom dollar on.

[ardsar]

The Touch Pro will be around the £500 mark in the UK, this much I would bet my bottom dollar on.

Recommended retail price is £549, however you can pick them up for £499.95.

[WDawn]

Paid about 650€ for preorder, wich is about 1015 dollar. When i think about it, it's actually frickin' much for a phone :d

[Smaniac]

Paid about 650€ for preorder, wich is about 1015 dollar. When i think about it, it's actually frickin' much for a phone :d

Well, if you think that's a device you will probably keep for at least a year, and you will have it around you 24/7, it's not that expensive (at least that's the excuse I use lol).

[manuelcalavera]

Well, if you think that's a device you will probably keep for at least a year, and you will have it around you 24/7, it's not that expensive (at least that's the excuse I use lol).
the saddest thing that ends up this excuse is winmo 7 :(

mwg and htc time line for winmo 7 is so early

[Jorlin]

the saddest thing that ends up this excuse is winmo 7 :(

mwg and htc time line for winmo 7 is so early

Well, some rom developers here will try to brew a WM7 rom once it is out... even if HTC does not offer a WM7 update, it should arrive on the Diamond/PRO

[Dionysis]

Seems like the HTC Raphael has already been delayed for The Netherlands.

Release date was 8 of august, but the website changed the date to 22 of august :(

Great ... another 2 weeks delay ...

( http://www.pdashop.nl/product/54045/htc-touch-pro-nl.html )

[Eriol]

Well, some rom developers here will try to brew a WM7 rom once it is out... even if HTC does not offer a WM7 update, it should arrive on the Diamond/PRO

I have read somewhere (can't find the link right now) that HTC intends to test Android on all hardware from 2008 on, so chances might be good that Android will also appear on Diamond & Co., which would be much better than WM7 or so. (If you wonder why the Diamond behaves pretty slow in many situations, its not the hardware, its the OS that causes troubles. SonyEricsson has similar problems with Xperia which is the reason the Xperia is delayed - the hardware is ready since early this year.)

Eriol

[Smaniac]

Well, some rom developers here will try to brew a WM7 rom once it is out... even if HTC does not offer a WM7 update, it should arrive on the Diamond/PRO

Yeah, probably, without multitouch though.

I have read somewhere (can't find the link right now) that HTC intends to test Android on all hardware from 2008 on, so chances might be good that Android will also appear on Diamond & Co., which would be much better than WM7 or so. (If you wonder why the Diamond behaves pretty slow in many situations, its not the hardware, its the OS that causes troubles. SonyEricsson has similar problems with Xperia which is the reason the Xperia is delayed - the hardware is ready since early this year.)

Eriol

Hmm... Android better than Windows? Maybe on version 2 o 3, because the first one is ugly as hell.

And Java? You can't really take that seriously, unless you want your Diamond to behave like it has a 50 MHz processor.

[manuelcalavera]

Well, some rom developers here will try to brew a WM7 rom once it is out... even if HTC does not offer a WM7 update, it should arrive on the Diamond/PRO
According to M$ , wm7 would have Multi Touch , and basically , we cant change display layout . without this important specific , winmo 7 is a NO for these htcs

[Eriol]

Yeah, probably, without multitouch though.


HTC Touch Pro & Diamond will not be able for multitouch because they lack a capacitive touchscreen. With their resistive touchscreen technology, they will only be able to get the signal from one touch at the same time. Too bad, this.

Eriol

[Doug2873]

HTC Touch Pro & Diamond will not be able for multitouch because they lack a capacitive touchscreen. With their resistive touchscreen technology, they will only be able to get the signal from one touch at the same time. Too bad, this.

Eriol


wow, the fact that this phone is still using a resistive screen may have just been the deciding factor in me not getting this phone...I mean I can pay $940 for a phone, but I can't justify it without a capacitive touchscreen...Guess I'll wait for the Dream unless this comes out on AT&T with subsidy

[dgpurvis]

wow, the fact that this phone is still using a resistive screen may have just been the deciding factor in me not getting this phone...I mean I can pay $940 for a phone, but I can't justify it without a capacitive touchscreen...Guess I'll wait for the Dream unless this comes out on AT&T with subsidy

The capacitive screen, however, is why there is no handwriting/drawing on the iPhone/iTouch.

[th1nm1nt]

I hate delays...since it isn't coming to the American market any time soon, I have to rely on the rumors provided by the two US E-Bay sellers. He seems as confused on he release date as most of us. UGH...I WANT MY TOUCH PRO!!!

[Jorlin]

UGH...I WANT MY TOUCH PRO!!!

Ehmm... can you please get to the end of the line... first come - first serve :P

:cool: :D ;)

[Noonski]

Heck about the capacitatateciwhat screen.

With the memory available, Normal SD cards coming out with 32G. 8G cards dropping to around 30 Euro i can wait.

It will give me two years of tweaking, while looking cool.

I'm going to squeeze that Pro dry.

Make it Play HD (or at least 720p, well i can always dream can't I, But 640 should be enough;))

[Smaniac]

8G cards dropping to around 30 Euro i can wait.

Actually I just bought a 8 gb MicroSD from DealExtreme and it costed me US$ 37 with free shipping, that's around 24 Euro.

[mandargon2]

When will HTC Raphael come to Spain? Is there some ROM in spanish for this device?

[danielherrero]

Online shops say 4 september. I would buy the english version next week but I should wait for th spanish one or I will miss the 'ñ' letter....(one month for one key??....mmm... I dont know what I will do....)

[Jorlin]

Online shops say 4 september. I would buy the english version next week but I should wait for th spanish one or I will miss the 'ñ' letter....(one month for one key??....mmm... I dont know what I will do....)

Same with me here... I am waiting for the German version for the German keyboard layout. For me it is worth the wait, although it will be pure torture once the english version is released...
But hopefully during the two to three weeks until the localized version is released, the price will already drop significantly :D

[m0rgul]

Seems like bluetrade.eu got some french azerty Htc touch pro available, I ordered one, will keep you guys up !

[Smaniac]

Online shops say 4 september. I would buy the english version next week but I should wait for th spanish one or I will miss the 'ñ' letter....(one month for one key??....mmm... I dont know what I will do....)

I was thinking about that as well. Here in Brazil we don't use ñ, but we do use á, ã, é, í, õ, etc.

They are not a special key, but a combination of them, like ' + a for á, ~ + a for ã, and so forth.

Wonder if the original Pro could do that without flashing, because I don't want a Portuguese languagem ROM.

[ukdj78]

OK here's the current release date situation for UK based web sites that I could find selling it via froogle.co.uk:

Play.com (http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/-/1019/1264/-/5817858/HTC-Touch-Pro-Sim-Free-Unlocked-Mobile-Phone/Product.html?searchtype=genre) have said a release date of 29/8 for ages and were the first site I saw to give a specific date, but they changed it to 4/8 about a week ago, and it still says that now even though that's tomorrow!

bizzimobile.com (http://www.bizzimobile.com/product/3E7370AB-B941-4ABE-9E79-56DE16DF8D0A.aspx) says available now! personally I don't believe that lol :confused:


Handtec (http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/1351/htc-touch-pro), the site that I've pre-ordered from (because they were one of the first to take pre-orders and were the only site I could find that sold the "premium" version with tom tom software which I want), says "due mid august"


Expansys (http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=169424) says 13/8

Inkino (http://www.inkino.co.uk/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2384&currency=GBP) and HTC Direct (http://www.htcdirect.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=418&currency=GBP) both say 14/8

bestdigitalmarket.com (http://www.bestdigitalmarket.com/view/index/product/HTC-Touch-Pro-p-321/source/FROOGLE/kwd/HTC+Touch+Pro) says "1 week"

Totalpda.co.uk (http://www.totalpda.co.uk/HTC/HTC-Touch-Pro.7387.html) simply says "due in August"

and finally powerupmobile.com (http://www.powerupmobile.com/product--511.htm) says 1st of September

One thing we should bear in mind is that some sites allocate their pre-orders out so that for example if they are expecting to receive 100 units tomorrow and another 100 units the following week, and they've already taken say 150 pre-orders, they will show the release date as next week because tomorrows stock will have all been allocated. Basically the earlier you order, the more likely you are to be the first to get one! I ordered mine a whole month ago :)!

All I can say is I really hope to have one sometime over the next week or two!

[ardsar]

Its a shame that handtec are only selling tomtom6 and not tomtom 7. Latest maps for version 6 are seriously out of date. Check on the kaiser forum for tomtom7 which allows you to buy the latest maps from tomtom.

Expansys were correct about the delay in the first batch from Taiwan. First shipment is towards end of week 32 and apparently there should not be any further delay. Lets wait and see ....

Inkino are the same company as htcdirect. There VAT numbers are the same.

[mrvanx]

I called play.com last week at some point and they said they were expected on the 7th (thursday), they are based in Jersey so might have some logistical advantage over the UK mainland perhaps?

[Jim Chapman]

Just spoke with Expansys UK about their 13th Aug delivery date. The service person I spoke to informed me:
- they expect the date to slip some more
- the latest email advice they received was that delivery would be in the 33rd week (not sure whether they consider 'week 0' to be the one beginning on 31-Dec-07, but if so, that means delivery in w/c 18-Aug-08).
- they apparently have a few hundred orders in the queue - so anyone ordering now would face quite some delay, since their initial delivery from HTC might not be enough to fill all the orders they already have.

So not a lot of hard information, but every reason to expect a bit more of a wait before I get my hands on a shiny new Pro :(

[Eriol]

For Germany,

Handit.de has updated the availiability date - according to their homepage, HTC sent an information on July 30 that the device HTC Touch Pro will be available on or after September 3. That's quite late, too bad ... The price (as of today) is € 562 + VAT (19 %).

Cheers,

Eriol

[twisted-pixel]

it would be interesting to know when people actually placed their orders and when they received their device as this would give some sort of indication on the queues.

I placed my original order with expansys on 6th June, hopefully that means I might be one of the first to receive the device

[onesolo]

For Germany,

Handit.de has updated the availiability date - according to their homepage, HTC sent an information on July 30 that the device HTC Touch Pro will be available on or after September 3. That's quite late, too bad ... The price (as of today) is € 562 + VAT (19 %).

Cheers,

Eriol
A bit offtopic, can you tell me if that store automatically removes the VAT if the VAT ID of a company is introduce in the profile data??

[jasjamming]

not surprised on the delays...

a week back i did mention that HTC will release it end of august. this is not a rumour, this is direct from HTC from my colleague at HTC.

[ukdj78]

I called play.com last week at some point and they said they were expected on the 7th (thursday), they are based in Jersey so might have some logistical advantage over the UK mainland perhaps?

I checked back on their site again before I went to work this morning and it had no date, and said temporarily out of stock. Just checked it again now after coming home from work and they have changed it to 7th August just as you said!

This waiting is killing me - the battery on my Hermes is knackered and is only lasting about 12 hours on one charge :mad: but it's not worth me buying a new battery when my shiny new Raphael is due to arrive so soon - hopefully! And before anyone suggests it, I've tried all different combinations of Roms and Radio versions, it's definitely just a simple case of worn out battery I'm afraid!

[mrvanx]

I checked back on their site again before I went to work this morning and it had no date, and said temporarily out of stock. Just checked it again now after coming home from work and they have changed it to 7th August just as you said!

This waiting is killing me - the battery on my Hermes is knackered and is only lasting about 12 hours on one charge :mad: but it's not worth me buying a new battery when my shiny new Raphael is due to arrive so soon - hopefully! And before anyone suggests it, I've tried all different combinations of Roms and Radio versions, it's definitely just a simple case of worn out battery I'm afraid!

Yep had the same thing with my TyTN, the battery seemed to seriously lose its potency after about a year and a half. Invested in a 1500mAh badboy, i still intend on using the hermes alongside (wanna get some developing done, i cna do VGA and QVGA now once ive got the Raph).

[sarasera]

Denmark:
25. august at
http://tele-online.dk/search.asp?keyword=HTCP4600
danish version with the letters æøå

[Jorlin]

Denmark:
25. august at
http://tele-online.dk/search.asp?keyword=HTCP4600
danish version with the letters æøå


That is quite optimistic... :D
I hope you are right... that would make a pre-september german release likely, too. But honestly, I doubt it... There is no official release date and so... it comes when it comes ;)

[jagnet]

I've updated more dates and prices on the wiki. Check it out.

A few vendors have pushed the dates out by a week or 2. It's now averaging out to be realistic release date of Monday 18th. A least here in Europe anyways. Some vendors might take orders before the weekend ( of 15th) though.

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_Vendors

[jagnet]

I've heard some rumer that KPN Netherlands, Vodafone Netherlands (possibly UK but not Ireland) and Three UK and Ireland will be releasing the Touch pro.

Incidentally they also sell the Diamond and a few of them sell the TyTN II :)

[Eriol]

Hi onesolo, I do not know about this, sorry. But I also though of getting a device outside Germany for a company. Would be good to know, probably our tax people know about this VAT issues ...

I do not know if Handit sells other devices than the German "QWERTZ" keyboard layout, tough (even if this is a joke with HTC devices, as they are missing the German umlaute like "äöüß").

Cheers,

Eriol

[foo]

(even if this is a joke with HTC devices, as they are missing the German umlaute like "äöüß").
Well, actually they don't although German Umlauts can only be accessed by pressing a combination of keys. German Umlauts are also printed on the keys as alternative assignment.

[licht77]

Latest info from german and austrian T-Mobile (05.08.08 10:15) for end-customers: the Vario 4 will be delayed until calendar week 38 (15th September - 19th September)... non-official reason is "problems with negative software tests"... i guess its just a logistical problem like they had with the kaisers and wizards :-)

[rawy]

The dealer I buy all our business handsets from said that his delivery is due 11th August, was the 4th & has been put back a week.

He called up yesterday afternoon to find out.

Rawy

[timpollard]

www.play.com was advertising a release on the 4th, then the 8th and has just been pushed back to the 25th...

[Raice]

http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Touch-Pro-QWERTY-GPS-Win-6-1-BLACK-2-8-LCD-QUAD_W0QQitemZ320282669548QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 320282669548&_trkparms=72%3A552%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1318

What do you think? Is it real?

[ukdj78]

http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Touch-Pro-QWERTY-GPS-Win-6-1-BLACK-2-8-LCD-QUAD_W0QQitemZ320282669548QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 320282669548&_trkparms=72%3A552%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1318

What do you think? Is it real?

Scroll down to the picture with the yellow flower on the screen, under this it says "THIS ACTION IS A PRE-ORDER"

In other words he has either pre-ordered 14 of them and intends to try and sell them on straight away at a profit :eek: (he might have even pre-ordered 15 and wants to keep one for himself and fund it by getting a profit on the other 14!!!) or, more likely judging by his username, he is in the mobile business anyway, and is just selling pre-orders on ebay as well to try and get extra trade.

[Raice]

Scroll down to the picture with the yellow flower on the screen, under this it says "THIS ACTION IS A PRE-ORDER"


Thank you! You saved me from wasting my money :)

[stunno]

http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Touch-Pro-QWERTY-GPS-Win-6-1-BLACK-2-8-LCD-QUAD_W0QQitemZ320282669548QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 320282669548&_trkparms=72%3A552%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1318

What do you think? Is it real?

Well, to quote the seller himself:-

COMES DIRECTLY FROM MANUFACTORY!

Says it all really

[cliffgardner]

Im using one right now... I came to XDA to see if someone knows how to hard reset this thing. :confused:

[ukdj78]

Im using one right now... I came to XDA to see if someone knows how to hard reset this thing. :confused:

There's probably a way to do it by holding down certain buttons and pressing the reset pin with the stylus like on the Hermes & Kaiser - but if you can't do it that way try going to start/settings/system/clear storage (if it's there) that should do the trick hopefully!

[Eriol]

I just talked to a responsible person at O2 Germany and he told me that the Xda Diamond Pro will not be available within the next 4 weeks, but is expected pretty soon after that. Not much information, yet enough to know that we still have to wait quite a while. I wonder if the unbranded HTC Touch pro will be released a bit earlier than the T-Mobile and O2 devices. Who knows?

Cheers,

Eriol

[Maranelloot]

I've got one pre ordered at a shop here in the Netherlands. They're expecting it within 5-10 days. I hope they're right :)

[twisted-pixel]

I think it's fair to say that NOBODY really knows when this is going to be released - except for HTC themselves and they don't seem to be telling anyone. I am impatient to get mine, however I've prepared myself for the fact that the original september dates are looking more and more likely

[StaticPlaya]

Check this out it's definitely coming out on Vodafone this month:

Vodafone - HTC Touch Pro (http://www.vodafonebusinessshop.co.uk/Details-Phone-HTC-Touch-Pro-3037.html)

[twisted-pixel]

Check this out it's definitely coming out on Vodafone this month:

Vodafone - HTC Touch Pro (http://www.vodafonebusinessshop.co.uk/Details-Phone-HTC-Touch-Pro-3037.html)

it says launch EXPECTED...Expansys EXPECTED to have this phone 4th August....

expectations are nothing.

[StaticPlaya]

The longer it takes for this phone to arrive I might as well wait for the android phone instead.

[Smaniac]

The longer it takes for this phone to arrive I might as well wait for the android phone instead.

So, you will trade native apps for Java ones? Good luck with that!

[Eriol]

The longer it takes for this phone to arrive I might as well wait for the android phone instead.

C'mon, man ... the Android phone has not even been announced yet, everything about this phone is just rumour. The software developing tools seem to be quite unstable and we do not know whether there is already hardware running this OS except for design studies. The Raphael is a real device. So is Windows Mobile, even though one may think it is slow, crappy, not hip and not flexible ...

Cheers,

Eriol

[Syphon Filter]

Inkino are still saying 13th/14th.

I reckon it's going to slip though.

[ardsar]

Clove.co.uk have now brought their date in line with the majority. They are now advertising availability late next week - i.e. 13th - 15th August.

[StaticPlaya]

I'm just getting really frustrated. I want to upgrade and I want the touch pro and T-mobile are taking ages. They even announced the phone before HTC it should be out by now.

What I meant about waiting for an android phone is that it is still on course for the end of the year based on the announcement from HTC. But I'm guessing from your comments a windows mobile would be better.

[twisted-pixel]

it's nothing unusual though is it. Thousands of companies advertise stuff that is "coming soon" just to build the hype up....but rarely does anything get delivered on the first advertised date.

There are a number of people that were about to buy the iphone, but then heard that in only one month the Raphael would be available, so they thought, why not wait...of course, now they wish they had bought the iphone..at least then they would have a phone. I myself considered buying the diamond, but since the Raphael was going to be avialble at the beginning of August I thought I'd wait....now it looks like I'll be waiting until september.

[StaticPlaya]

I know what you mean I went to the T-Mobile shop to see the diamond and it was so tempting but I though I should just wait for the touch pro. As there are so many pros compared with the diamond.

[ukdj78]

Not that it bothers me cos I won't need it unless I go on holiday, but I've noticed a lot of sites including Vodafone UK seem to think the Touch Pro is Tri-band, when HTC say on their own web site that it's quad band.

On the subject of Vodafone, I'm actually quite surprised that they are not rebranding it like T-Mobile and O2 have done, they normally do with HTC devices don't they? or am I wrong again! :rolleyes:

Edit: Sorry Mr. Vanx I just realised that this post is kinda off-topic for this thread and probably should have it's own thread :o I would delete it and give it it's own thread myself but I can't seem to find a delete button!

[demonizator]

I myself considered buying the diamond, but since the Raphael was going to be avialble at the beginning of August I thought I'd wait....now it looks like I'll be waiting until september.
Same here. I was so hoping it'll become available this Monday so I can get it in the next couple of weeks here in Bulgaria. Now I have to wait even more.

:mad:

[twisted-pixel]

and expansys uk now believe they wont get the units until 31st August

[ardsar]

Rumours / discussions on the UK expansys forum are now indicating 31st August. Apparantly the product Manager has yet to update the date on the UK site.

[Jim Chapman]

Just to add to ardsar's post:
The product manager is definitely saying 31st August. But the good news is that they expect the first shipment will be large enough to cover all back orders.
Check out the thread at Expansys support (http://www.expansys.com/ft.aspx?k=112457&page=2).

Jim

[robpet2]

Check this out it's definitely coming out on Vodafone this month:

Vodafone - HTC Touch Pro (http://www.vodafonebusinessshop.co.uk/Details-Phone-HTC-Touch-Pro-3037.html)

is vodafone band compatible with US tmo...
cause it doesnt look like its coming to tmo US anytime soon.. with Verizon and Sprint getting it first here in the US.... which sucks, I would hate to switch to sprint... might have to give Verizon a shot !!!!

[ardsar]

Just spoke to Clove UK and they are still expecting first shipment next week having discussed with HTC UK yesturday.

[onesolo]

Also, Fnac, the well known frech retailer, here in Portugal expects to release it also on the 14th of this month. They are very known to rarely get the wrong shipping dates when only a few days are missing.
And the normal for fnac is to release a phone a few days or weeks later then the rest of the stores.

http://www.fnac.pt/pt/Catalog/Detail.aspx?cIndex=8&catalog=telecomunicacoes&categoryN=Telem%F3veis%20GPS%20PDA&category=pdaQtek&product=2200031072008 (http://www.fnac.pt/pt/Catalog/Detail.aspx?cIndex=8&catalog=telecomunicacoes&categoryN=Telem%F3veis%20GPS%20PDA&category=pdaQtek&product=2200031072008)

Still, nothing is sacred...

[Black93300ZX]

is vodafone band compatible with US tmo...
cause it doesnt look like its coming to tmo US anytime soon.. with Verizon and Sprint getting it first here in the US.... which sucks, I would hate to switch to sprint... might have to give Verizon a shot !!!!

Verizon cut the RAM in half and removed the G-sensor from both the Diamond and Touch Pro... Good luck with them.

[Syphon Filter]

A few retailers are sticking to the 14th. Time will tell.

[ukdj78]

Im using one right now... I came to XDA to see if someone knows how to hard reset this thing. :confused:

You've probably already found out by now ;) but just in case - and also for the benefit of others who can't be bothered to read the user guide that's now online on the HTC site :rolleyes: - you hold down the Volume Down and Enter (Center of D-Pad) buttons while pressing the reset button with the stylus!

[Eriol]

The German Expansys webpage sais that the Touch Pro (UK/English version) is on stock and available within 7 days!

I updated the Wiki accordingly.

Cheers,

Eriol

BTW: They also accept pre-orders for the Xperia X1 ...

[onesolo]

Portuguese Fnac dropped the 14th of this month to 20th

[nice1guy62]

purelygadgets.co.uk av got the pro in stock:)

[ardsar]

They say they have in stock, but i dont believe they have. If you look at the description for the "green" in stock, it states delivery upto 5 days. This is in line with other sites that are giving 14th as arrival date.

[fireblade63]

purelygadgets.co.uk av got the pro in stock:)

Seems to be in stock alright.
Any english people around to check'em out?

[dgpurvis]

purelygadgets.co.uk av got the pro in stock:)

As said by ardsar, all it means is that they are expecting stock within a short enough timeframe (five days or so) that they can claim to have it in stock.

[StaticPlaya]

As said by ardsar, all it means is that they are expecting stock within a short enough timeframe (five days or so) that they can claim to have it in stock.

Same as Expansys uk.

[th1nm1nt]

looks like someone has their hand on one already...if I didn't dump $1100 on my preorder, I'd snag this one up just to be one of the first!

US Ebay Auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Touch-PRO-3G-GSM-qwerty-GPS-3-2MP-WM6-1-and-more_W0QQitemZ270263903779QQihZ017QQcategoryZ3312Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

[ukdj78]

looks like someone has their hand on one already...if I didn't dump $1100 on my preorder, I'd snag this one up just to be one of the first!

US Ebay Auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Touch-PRO-3G-GSM-qwerty-GPS-3-2MP-WM6-1-and-more_W0QQitemZ270263903779QQihZ017QQcategoryZ3312Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Wow, seems to be genuine but is a strange and unique variant that I've never seen before - check out the keyboard in the 2nd picture. It has 5 rows but rather oddly the numbers are not on the top row and are still accessed with the function key like they were on the Hermes and Kaiser. The top row seems to be all punctuation marks. I don't like the look of that at all!

[Black93300ZX]

Wow, seems to be genuine but is a strange and unique variant that I've never seen before - check out the keyboard in the 2nd picture. It has 5 rows but rather oddly the numbers are not on the top row and are still accessed with the function key like they were on the Hermes and Kaiser. The top row seems to be all punctuation marks. I don't like the look of that at all!

That's the US version... No camera in front either... If that's true, it has 850/1900 WCDMA, not the 900/2100.

[whatledog]

That's the US version... No camera in front either... If that's true, it has 850/1900 WCDMA, not the 900/2100.

So that's what we in the States are getting??? Ugh!!! What happened to the number line!?!:(

[Black93300ZX]

So that's what we in the States are getting??? Ugh!!! What happened to the number line!?!:(

AT&T ruins everything, remember?

[ukdj78]

I just added that listing to my watch list on ebay, I'm very curious to see how much it would fetch being a pre-release version! Wonder if it'll get as high as the pre-order prices for the final release of it on my side of the pond?

[Black93300ZX]

I just added that listing to my watch list on ebay, I'm very curious to see how much it would fetch being a pre-release version! Wonder if it'll get as high as the pre-order prices for the final release of it on my side of the pond?

I just had him make a new auction so I could buy it straight up for $900, and I did. I now own the only AT&T Touch Pro I've ever seen! WOOOOOOOO

[th1nm1nt]

I just had him make a new auction so I could buy it straight up for $900, and I did. I now own the only AT&T Touch Pro I've ever seen! WOOOOOOOO


You're welcome...I'd have done the same if I wasn't $1100 down already, and I need it unlocked for US T-Mobile network (though I could do it, I just want to enter my sim and go with this phone...been waiting too long)

[Black93300ZX]

You're welcome...I'd have done the same if I wasn't $1100 down already, and I need it unlocked for US T-Mobile network (though I could do it, I just want to enter my sim and go with this phone...been waiting too long)

Yeah man, thanks a lot. You may be better off, honestly, considering you should be able to flash the AT&T ROM onto your phone and keep the specs (and the front camera). No specs available for this phone yet, I'm HOPING the RAM is the same (as well as GPS, G-force sensor, etc). I can always resell it if it has something gay like the accelerometer removed (rumors say that's what Verizon is doing).

[robpet2]

heres another one - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320282669548&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX&refitem=270263903779&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&refwidgettype=osi_widget&_trksid=p284.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DSI%26its%3DI%252BIA%26itu%3DIA%25 2BUCI%26otn%3D4%26ps%3D42

[Black93300ZX]

heres another one - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320282669548&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX&refitem=270263903779&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&refwidgettype=osi_widget&_trksid=p284.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DSI%26its%3DI%252BIA%26itu%3DIA%25 2BUCI%26otn%3D4%26ps%3D42

That's the Euro version, and it's a preorder. When the device comes out, he'll order it and have it sent to you. Won't work with 3G in the US, either.

[robpet2]

That's the Euro version, and it's a preorder. When the device comes out, he'll order it and have it sent to you. Won't work with 3G in the US, either.
damn... oh well im not ordering it anyway cause thats too much money for a phone.. lol.. but on a upgrade price 300 and its mine like a pot of gold to a leprechaun

[Black93300ZX]

Haha, the phone's coming out for AT&T, why would you expect to get a discounted price with T-Mobile?

[nabboR]

Hi everyone!
I've just preordered a Touch Pro!
The company says in stock 15'th of August here in Sweden. I ordered it with a contract, 24 month, €32/month and you can talk/sms/mms it all up and the phone than costs about €308. So, when moving my number from one operator to anoyher I might be in for a week of waiting.

[Jorlin]

Hi everyone!
I've just preordered a Touch Pro!
The company says in stock 15'th of August here in Sweden. I ordered it with a contract, 24 month, €32/month and you can talk/sms/mms it all up and the phone than costs about €308. So, when moving my number from one operator to anoyher I might be in for a week of waiting.

Did you order a Swedish one or is it with an English/QWERTY rom/layout?

[nabboR]

Did you order a Swedish one or is it with an English/QWERTY rom/layout?

I'm not really sure, since I order from a Swedish shop I want to believe it's a Swedish modell, as up to now I don't know if there'll be a specific "swedish qwerty". On the contrary I hope it comes with a Swedish rom.

I'll let u know when I get it, but I'm counting with a week so I hope it shows up in the middle of week 34...

[rakdoll]

Just called to the biggest importer in Finland and they said they'll have it week 34! That means next week. :)

That's good news, is it?? :D

/Henry

[triball]

I´ve searched the smartmania forum (cz) and they´ve been contacting sunnysoft, when Raphael will be in stock. they said that they´ll havi it this Friday or next Tuesday I can´t wait to get my hands on one:D

[twisted-pixel]

there's far too many 'guesses' and speculations about when it's going to be in stock with all the stores. I stopped bothering to look now, it will turn up when it turns up.

[aksd]

Touch Pro out in the UK it seems:

http://www.purelygadgets.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=25097

[ardsar]

Touch Pro out in the UK it seems:

http://www.purelygadgets.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=25097

Another one that doesnt read the full thread.

Check posts 204 - 207

[adityasen]

Just called up Expansys UK. Spoke to a lady who told me that even though the website says est. availibility in 2 days, the shipment will be coming into the UK only by next Monday or Tuesday. So no chance of getting hold of one before that.

[rakdoll]

Just called up Expansys UK. Spoke to a lady who told me that even though the website says est. availibility in 2 days, the shipment will be coming into the UK only by next Monday or Tuesday. So no chance of getting hold of one before that.

Thats in line with the finnish importer. When they said week 34. Actually one of their many names is HTC Finland, I guess they are the finnish department of the company. So we better trust them. Next week it is! :)

[ardsar]

Expansys UK are expecting first stock to arrive within the next 12 hours.

http://www.expansys.com/ft.aspx?k=112678

Availability may be short though, so if your first in the que, you may be lucky to get this week.

[Syphon Filter]

Expansys UK are expecting first stock to arrive within the next 12 hours.

http://www.expansys.com/ft.aspx?k=112678

Availability may be short though, so if your first in the que, you may be lucky to get this week.

Hrm, I am quite keen on the Touch Pro, I currently have a Kaiser. But I've been thinking...is it that much better than the Kaiser? Is it worth jumping so soon?

I remember when the Hermes landed, I picked one up pretty much on the day they were available but had problems with it, I had to ahve it replaced twice and then ended up getting a refund and subsequently an M3100.

I cant decide whether to jump on the Touch Pro or to wait it out a little while...

[ardsar]

Well it looks like the wait could be over. Several uk sites now have stock including Clove.co.uk. Have fun!!!!

[billu]

You are right

http://www.devicewire.co.uk/htc-touch-pro

claim to have 50 in stock and deliver by tomorrow if ordered before 4pm

[benktlottie]

I just got the confirmation email from www.devicewire.co.uk confirming stock!

Payday on Friday....WHOO-HOO!!! :)

[ardsar]

Yup its arrived. Just had an email from Devicewire



Thank you for contacting devicewire.com.



We have now received the official UK stock with official UK warranty and UK support.

[jwhitham]

You asked to be contacted when the HTC Touch Pro became available. We are pleased to say that the first units have now arrived into stock.

The upgrade to the popular HTC TyTN II the Touch Pro builds on its success's and includes new features including a VGA display and improved user interface, not to mention Windows Mobile 6.1.

Perfect for consumer or business use the Touch Pro has the power, the design and the flexibility to fulfil various roles.

Price at just £440 + VAT the Touch Pro is available today from Clove.

For more information, or to place your order, if you have not already, follow the link below:

http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=554F3ADC-4CE6-4139-BE93-68F293B46CFE&category=GROUP1

The Clove Technology Sales Team.

[steveoidm]

Finalised my preorder from clove today! Hope it comes tomorrow :)

[grahamrb]

Just ordered one from clove.co.uk

WOOHOO! Hopefully shipping to Australia isn't too long.

[rakdoll]

What about rest of the world??? :D I need to call some stores right now! I live in Finland btw.

Have fun guys!

[twisted-pixel]

surprising that a smaller company like clove can get something that a large company like expansys can't!!

[ardsar]

clove is based in dorset - where the HTC base is. Handtec are based in petersborough and they have stock - just depends on the courier i guess. Expansys in my opinion dont know if they are comming or going. The tech support guy was stating end of month delivery!!!

[burgertime]

I emailed someone on Ebay pre selling in Texas, and he said they were expecting a large shipment by the middle of next week. Supposdly they are working American 3g pros.

[Syphon Filter]

I wonder if Expansys got into trouble for selling Asian stock as UK and hence are last in line for deliveries this time around?

[alexdin1991]

here in romania, they say it will not be available until september :(

[burgertime]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=250281271103&Category=3312&_trksid=p3907.m29


Ebay Link...also he said he would be getting them in this week.

[Black93300ZX]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=250281271103&Category=3312&_trksid=p3907.m29


Ebay Link...

"Connectivity: WCDMA / HSPA: 900/2100MHz. HSDPA 7.2 Mbps"

=

No US 3G :(

[grahamrb]

"Connectivity: WCDMA / HSPA: 900/2100MHz. HSDPA 7.2 Mbps"

=

No US 3G :(

What does US run at? 850/1900 or something? In Australia we have both, our main telco provider runs at 850/1900 but all the other providers run at 900/2100. I think the Touch Pro hardware can support both frequency sets so with any luck a custom rom will allow you to use any version.

[burgertime]

D'oh! Guess someone who orders will be S.O.L. then. Well that really puts a stick in my craw.