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paulash
23rd July 2008, 05:30 AM
AMAZING. It's incredibly simple and effective (sit's on the Today screen, a simple GPS ON or OFF get's it primed and ready almost instantly). I've been upgrading rom's and radios for the last month and the gps lock-on rate has been consistently slow and crappy. After I downloaded this (16KB!) cab file and install, I just hit ON. Tomtom worked in 5-10 seconds. Simply amazed. How come no has heard of this before, and if they have, WHY hasn't anyone mentioned it?

http://www.baf.cc/gpstoggle

Baffles
23rd July 2008, 05:32 AM
I could have sworn I announced this here, but maybe it was just at ppcgeeks. Anyway, I'm the creator of it... weird that I apparently forgot this site. :confused:

gbenj
23rd July 2008, 05:45 AM
you didnt forget...as far as i know,

GC used to mention your app a while ago, i personally don't use it, but i know its been mentioned a bunch of times before.

people dont look around, they just post what they see and assume its new.

gc14
23rd July 2008, 05:47 AM
I could have sworn I announced this here, but maybe it was just at ppcgeeks. Anyway, I'm the creator of it... weird that I apparently forgot this site.

Baf, I mentioned your app a while ago and linked your post on ppcgeeks. I stopped mentioning it due to the power bug. Is it fixed yet?

paulash
23rd July 2008, 05:50 AM
you didnt forget...as far as i know,

GC used to mention your app a while ago, i personally don't use it, but i know its been mentioned a bunch of times before.

people dont look around, they just post what they see and assume its new.

Well the thing is I've seen programs like GPS viewer and HTC home tool floating around a lot... and it's sad that no one's ever mentioned BAF gpstoggle; not nearly as often as they should. Everyone needs as many options as they can get. I used both GPS viewer and HTC home tool, and they locked very slowly. BAF locked instantly. If it has been posted before, then I'll just refresh everyones memory :)

gc14
23rd July 2008, 05:51 AM
Well the thing is I've seen programs like GPS viewer and HTC home tool floating around a lot... and it's sad that no one's ever mentioned BAF gpstoggle; not nearly as often as they should. Everyone needs as many options as they can get. I used both GPS viewer and HTC home tool, and they locked very slowly. BAF locked instantly. If it has been posted before, then I'll just refresh everyones memory

Paul there was a very good reason why I stopped mentioning the app, and why I don't use it. There was a pretty significant bug in it, and unless Baf fixed it, I still wouldn't use it. Obviously no offense to Baf, it's a great application, just needs to fix that bug (if he hasn't already).

Baffles
23rd July 2008, 07:39 AM
The thing is, the bug is actually a bug in the GPS drivers, and affects ANY of the solutions around. I have worked around the bug as much as I can, to the point where nothing will crash but GPS may or may not shut off. In further testing, it hasn't popped up on a lot of configurations as well.

gc14
23rd July 2008, 07:49 AM
The thing is, the bug is actually a bug in the GPS drivers, and affects ANY of the solutions around. I have worked around the bug as much as I can, to the point where nothing will crash but GPS may or may not shut off. In further testing, it hasn't popped up on a lot of configurations as well.

Yeah but see...I love the app...but if it keeps the GPS on, that's a huge huge drain on battery power, which is why I stopped using it.

flyers2114
23rd July 2008, 08:00 AM
Yeah but see...I love the app...but if it keeps the GPS on, that's a huge huge drain on battery power, which is why I stopped using it.


When I need GPS I just move it to the today screen......then I put it back away.....as you said the app is great and I would love to leave it all the time.....but the battery drain is a substantial amount quickly.....just my 2 cents...:D

gc14
23rd July 2008, 08:03 AM
When I need GPS I just move it to the today screen......then I put it back away.....as you said the app is great and I would love to leave it all the time.....but the battery drain is a substantial amount quickly.....just my 2 cents...

It doesn't matter if it's on the today screen or not. If you use it, then disable it from the today screen, the bug will still keep your GPS on.

j-squared
23rd July 2008, 12:04 PM
If you do run this and it does lock gps on - what steps need to be done to turn it off? Soft Boot?

paulash
23rd July 2008, 12:36 PM
If you do run this and it does lock gps on - what steps need to be done to turn it off? Soft Boot?

A soft reset should do the trick, so the GPS bug can be avoided by doing that. BTW I've been using the GPS for quite some time now, I didn't notice much of a power drain issue.

I still CANNOT believe how quickly I get locks; I don't even have to wait 30-60 seconds, not even 10-20. They're pretty much instant now.

gc14
23rd July 2008, 12:54 PM
Yeah but I'm all set with having to soft reset every time I use the GPS

kflipproductions
23rd July 2008, 04:22 PM
Yeah but I'm all set with having to soft reset every time I use the GPS

in any other app it seems like the GPS gets shut off when the phone goes in to standby. i'm guessing thats not the case here?

Paul in Maryland
23rd July 2008, 07:40 PM
My friends,
The creator of this promising app is just 18 (http://www.baf.cc/bio)! He's a computer-science student in a first-rate (but costly) school, so if you like his program but haven't considered donating, please reconsider. He has years of college bills to pay.

flyers2114
23rd July 2008, 08:23 PM
It doesn't matter if it's on the today screen or not. If you use it, then disable it from the today screen, the bug will still keep your GPS on.


Good to know.....thanks.....it seemed like it was not draining as bad as when I started doing this....

tahlsr
23rd July 2008, 09:00 PM
I'll give it a go. I figure I'll only use it in my car where my cell phone has a power plug and thus won't go to sleep (I changed the external power settings). Hopefully then when I exit the car I'll remember to turn off the gps.

DV8
24th July 2008, 02:52 AM
This is working great on my VZW XV6800 almost instant gps fix compared to the others. I am watching to see what the battery drain is going to be. I have the extended battery and usually don't have to charge but about once a week so will see what the change is in the battery drain.

flyers2114
24th July 2008, 04:45 AM
Updated version released today...check his site....:D

kflipproductions
24th July 2008, 05:16 AM
any release notes on it?

Baffles
24th July 2008, 05:16 AM
Well, the bug is going to come up no matter how you run the GPS if you let the device go to sleep while GPS is on. Someone told me that this doesn't happen in the newer roms, I haven't tested this first hand yet so I can't comment on that issue.

mkenny2
24th July 2008, 05:22 AM
I ran the program for the first time at 5pm today with 60-70% battery....left it on when I got home at 6pm(had the phone plugged in while driving from 5-6) left the phone in standby never shutting it off......Checked my phone at 10:15pm and the phone was shut off battery dead.

Just what I experienced....I was really suprised how fast the battery went down...I had even quit all programs TomTom etc. b4 going into Standby mode.

rleejr79
24th July 2008, 05:37 AM
Just tried it....would like to hear if the power issues discussed above were fixed. Just re-flashed with this as my sole GPS software; this is the fastest I have seen in locking on. Great job!

tahlsr
24th July 2008, 03:11 PM
Running DCD 3.2.2 and latest Radio that came in a Sprint release on my XV6800.

I installed it and soft reset and it was there on my today screen.
I clicked it to turn it on and then basically immediately loaded live search
and went to the map and clicked center on gps.

I did this a few times throughout the day and only got a lock once (from within my car so I expect a lock). When it did get a lock I was all excited and live search worked great.

The other times live search would just time out with the error that it can't find any satellites or something.

figured I'd throw in what happened to me so far.

mkenny2
24th July 2008, 04:22 PM
Just tried it....would like to hear if the power issues discussed above were fixed. Just re-flashed with this as my sole GPS software; this is the fastest I have seen in locking on. Great job!

The power issue is still there. It is a great concept though! I am going to have it on my XV6800 that I just use for GPS in the car but I would not use it on your phone unless you soft reset after you are done using GPS....The battery will drain rapidly.

Paul in Maryland
24th July 2008, 06:38 PM
Well, I use Mugen's 3600mAh battery, so I can get by with a battery-draining app for a few more hours than most. The challenge with using such a large battery is remembering to start charging it in early evening. Wait till bedtime and it may not be fully charged when you leave home.

rleejr79
24th July 2008, 09:44 PM
The power issue is still there. It is a great concept though! I am going to have it on my XV6800 that I just use for GPS in the car but I would not use it on your phone unless you soft reset after you are done using GPS....The battery will drain rapidly.

Thanks for the info

parcou
25th July 2008, 05:33 PM
GC or anyone else...

I can work around that small bug...soft reset is not an issue when I am finish. My question is HOW do you KNOW that radio is still on????

OK, I click it off and his tool says it is off. Where are you all looking to see that the gps radio is still transmitting...

I turn his tool off...then goto GPS Viewer and nothing is connected...even if I try to make a gps connection is GPS Viewer after closing his tool it still does the same red bar process before it goes blue and it is not instant. When his tool is running, GPS Viewer is blue all day as soon as I open the gps port, instantly...

So again when his tool is off...where do you all go to see that the gps radio is still on???

kdj67f
25th July 2008, 05:54 PM
I used this for the first time tuesday, worked awesome for one, then never soft reset after messing around with google maps for a while. my phone was fully charged when I went to sleep, and it was only down 6% battery when I woke up. I simply clicked on the icon to turn it off. Stock battery. I will use this exclusively now I am so impressed. Now I think I need to go donate to bafs college fund :D

gc14
25th July 2008, 06:29 PM
I think you guys are misinterpreting this bug. It only happens if you turn GPS on, then let the phone go into standby without turning it off. When you bring the phone out of standby, and then turn it off, the GPS stays on even if the toggle says GPS Off. If you turn it on, and turn it off without letting the phone go to sleep, a soft reset isn't required.

parcou
25th July 2008, 06:29 PM
I used this for the first time tuesday, worked awesome for one, then never soft reset after messing around with google maps for a while. my phone was fully charged when I went to sleep, and it was only down 6% battery when I woke up. I simply clicked on the icon to turn it off. Stock battery. I will use this exclusively now I am so impressed. Now I think I need to go donate to bafs college fund :D

BAFs I will do the same, too. I did for GC & DCD I am still testing but that sounds good on your results...

I still would like to know how the others state the GPS is on that it is really still ON...what on the device is showing them it is still on. I cannot go by battery drain alone....anyone using a cell phone knows what when the phone is roaming or constantly searching for network you will have more battery drain due to more radio usage...

gc14
25th July 2008, 06:31 PM
There is no indicator to tell you if the gps is still on. That's why it's necessary to soft reset if you bring the phone out of sleep and you notice the toggle on.

parcou
25th July 2008, 06:41 PM
There is no indicator to tell you if the gps is still on. That's why it's necessary to soft reset if you bring the phone out of sleep and you notice the toggle on.

Now we are getting somewhere....thx. Yes I did notice that it does sleep at my 5min setting and I wake it the gps is still on. However (and not sure if this is due to his recent update) when I turn it off, it stays off...in sleep mode or coming out of sleep mode BAFs tools says off.

So I am safe to say it is OFF, right...

I do see your point but for those like me who will use GPS for a specific time (from A-B) when I am finished I kill all the apps tt7, google maps, etc. and I will then turn off BAFs tool. In this process, I am assuming when I tune BAF tool off...then the device sleeps, I wake the device and I still see BAFs tool OFF...It is not a ghost..it is truly off

gc14
25th July 2008, 06:49 PM
I think you're getting confused.

I'll point out two different scenarios...

1.

-Turn BAF on (turns internal GPS on)
-Use whatever GPS apps you like etc
-Turn BAF off (turns internal GPS off)
-Let the phone go to sleep

Result (after sleep): BAF's toggle is OFF, The internal gps is OFF.

Nothing needs to happen, everything is ok.

2.

-Turn BAF on (turns internal GPS on)
-Use whatever GPS apps you like etc
-Let the phone go to sleep (either on purpose, or by accident)

Result (after sleep): BAF's toggle is ON, The internal gps is ON.

Now, if scenario 2 occurs, when you bring the phone out of sleep, the toggle will be on obviously, but EVEN if you turn it OFF, the internal gps stays ON. This is what requires the soft reset.

parcou
25th July 2008, 06:58 PM
I think you're getting confused.

I'll point out two different scenarios...

1.

-Turn BAF on (turns internal GPS on)
-Use whatever GPS apps you like etc
-Turn BAF off (turns internal GPS off)
-Let the phone go to sleep

Result (after sleep): BAF's toggle is OFF, The internal gps is OFF.

Nothing needs to happen, everything is ok.

2.

-Turn BAF on (turns internal GPS on)
-Use whatever GPS apps you like etc
-Let the phone go to sleep (either on purpose, or by accident)

Result (after sleep): BAF's toggle is ON, The internal gps is ON.

Now, if scenario 2 occurs, when you bring the phone out of sleep, the toggle will be on obviously, but EVEN if you turn it OFF, the internal gps stays ON. This is what requires the soft reset.

OK...good breakdown my friend....you simplified what I was trying to say/ask. For me I was noting to #1. When I use GPS the device will stay one until I am finish...never to sleep and when I am done I will close all related apps, then hit the sleep button.

If some are doing #2, maybe they can live with it...but I am good!

GC..thx again for the clearer picture...

kdj67f
25th July 2008, 09:01 PM
I understand also, thanks GC. I sometimes skim the fine print, as i am usually browsing while at work. on my phone. When I should be welding or fixing equipment and nobody is looking!

flyers2114
26th July 2008, 02:14 AM
I think you guys are misinterpreting this bug. It only happens if you turn GPS on, then let the phone go into standby without turning it off. When you bring the phone out of standby, and then turn it off, the GPS stays on even if the toggle says GPS Off. If you turn it on, and turn it off without letting the phone go to sleep, a soft reset isn't required.

That clears that up for me....I was playing with it and wondering where you were seeing it still transmitting....thanks.

parcou
26th July 2008, 05:10 AM
BAFs...this is a sweet tool...it hits for me each time...not that GC process did not work either (it does) now I do not have to do all those steps...Now I have to add if I am in a office build built with solid walls obviously it is not going to lock....once I get close to windows or outside...bam..locks. I have not seen any look take longer than 2mins most are right away...

Kool...I'll keep playing with it...

jinx01
26th July 2008, 06:24 PM
Is there anyway that this can be used as an exe as opposed to the .dll based application from the today screen? I'm using an alternative "today" interface and can't access this program without disabling my interface. Hope this makes sense. Let me know, I'd love to give this thing a try.

parcou
28th July 2008, 01:22 AM
BAFs...this is a sweet tool...it hits for me each time...not that GC process did not work either (it does) now I do not have to do all those steps...Now I have to add if I am in a office build built with solid walls obviously it is not going to lock....once I get close to windows or outside...bam..locks. I have not seen any look take longer than 2mins most are right away...

Kool...I'll keep playing with it...

I know each person and each device is different...but so far I am still hitting out the park with this app. It continues to lock for me using it only and not all the other loops I use to do...

Keep in mind I have done the gps fix, etc, etc..all that stuff and the tool does not work for ME (saying ME) when I am deep inside a building/house. When I get by windows or outside I get a connection...this may not be true for all people but this is my feedback...

Aaron McCarthy
29th July 2008, 07:11 AM
Any chance theres a toggle exe hidden somewhere on the phone now? I need an exe to link this to my cube on my HTC Vogue. Tomtom 7 needs a GPS primer to get the internal GPS working. I have tried astrogps but that only creats a lnk file which I cant use in the HTC Cube program. I've aslo tried GPS Launcher but that doesnt seem to actually prime the interal GPS. SO yeah... if theres a toggle exe program hidden somewhere on the phone I would love to know where. that way I could just push a button in the cube to turn gps on then click the tomtom link in the cube to launch tomtom.

Thanks guys

If this isnt possible thats fine. At least this way I can turn the gps on and still launch tomtom from the cube :)

Baffles
31st July 2008, 06:22 AM
Any chance theres a toggle exe hidden somewhere on the phone now? I need an exe to link this to my cube on my HTC Vogue. Tomtom 7 needs a GPS primer to get the internal GPS working. I have tried astrogps but that only creats a lnk file which I cant use in the HTC Cube program. I've aslo tried GPS Launcher but that doesnt seem to actually prime the interal GPS. SO yeah... if theres a toggle exe program hidden somewhere on the phone I would love to know where. that way I could just push a button in the cube to turn gps on then click the tomtom link in the cube to launch tomtom.

Thanks guys

If this isnt possible thats fine. At least this way I can turn the gps on and still launch tomtom from the cube :)

Nope, I don't rely on an exe. You could use one of the exe launchers if you had to, but I don't really like them. There is no toggle exe anyplace, at least as a result of my toggler (it's all contained in the today plugin).

crobs808
31st July 2008, 04:48 PM
5-10 seconds?....ok, not much of a increase, since tomtom already locks on in about 10-20 seconds already without priming.

I mean, I turn on TomTom when i walk out of the door of my house or work, and by the time I have my car in 'Drive' it has a gps lock.

I don't see the need for anything faster than that.

::: Connor

Baffles
1st August 2008, 03:22 AM
It's primary use is not to increase speed of locks, it's to enable GPS for applications that aren't coded to use GPS correctly.

kdj67f
1st August 2008, 03:55 AM
Whether or not the programs are coded to use the gps properly, it is a great primer program, thank you very much. Oh yeah, I was going to donate...

parcou
2nd August 2008, 07:16 AM
Well, the bug is going to come up no matter how you run the GPS if you let the device go to sleep while GPS is on. Someone told me that this doesn't happen in the newer roms, I haven't tested this first hand yet so I can't comment on that issue.

BAF...

Love this app....I hit 4/5 (99%) times I use it and the 4 is only when I try it in indoors places...next I then just go outside...then connect.

I was on radio 3.39 since GPS is better for me. However as a tech I really like to stay on the latest releases which is best in a computer field...so I put it back to 3.42.30. My doing this is because of your tool...

Check your paypal. I just sent you some $$$$ (donation)

Thx!

friedmjb
3rd August 2008, 02:10 AM
Such as QUICKGps - where you have to manually patch the registry? Any other recs for enabling Live Search as the primary application?

mlittletn
4th August 2008, 08:09 AM
Best primer I have ever used! With HTC Quick gps I got a lock in under 10 seconds from a cold gps boot in windows live search. Incredible!

merlin3
4th August 2008, 08:16 PM
doesn't help for me, I've given up on using my gps very often for now. It takes me anywhere from 1 minutes on up to 10-15 minutes just to get a lock no matter what i do. Pretty useless for me.

magnumz32@gmail.com
5th August 2008, 01:36 AM
wow awesome program. I thought i had a bum phone as far as the gps goes. Waited over 45 mins and still never got a lock unlike my first 6800 which used to get locks in first min or two. Tried this program and within 10 seconds google maps got a lock.

Paul in Maryland
6th August 2008, 04:11 AM
I installed version 1.9 into my XV6800's main memory. Then I rebooted and toggled it on. But GPS still doesn't work. I've enabled GPS in Google Maps 2.2 but Google Maps searches in vain, then reports that my phone doesn't seem to be equipped with GPS.

Must I change some other settings? Say, port settings in Windows, or port settings in Google Maps?

I have the stock ROM. Do I need to be using a ROM that has enabled GPS? The thread's title made me figure that this .CAB unlocks GPS in the Verizon stock ROM.

BillThyCat
6th August 2008, 04:37 AM
Stock VZ rom will not work. You would have to update your radio to a GPS capable radio and use one of the modified roms for this to work.

BTC

serfboreds
6th August 2008, 05:21 AM
I installed version 1.9 into my XV6800's main memory. Then I rebooted and toggled it on. But GPS still doesn't work. I've enabled GPS in Google Maps 2.2 but Google Maps searches in vain, then reports that my phone doesn't seem to be equipped with GPS.

Must I change some other settings? Say, port settings in Windows, or port settings in Google Maps?

I have the stock ROM. Do I need to be using a ROM that has enabled GPS? The thread's title made me figure that this .CAB unlocks GPS in the Verizon stock ROM.

Instant lock, not instant unlock. You need to update to 2.40 spl, flash 3.42.30 radio, then 3.2.5 DCD ROM, then carrier cab to get GPS. See the wiki link in my signature, read it ALL, then do it.

Paul in Maryland
6th August 2008, 07:15 PM
Geez. I read the app's home page but didn't figure this out. to my thinking, "instant GPS for Verizon" meant "Add GPS capability to your Verizon in an instant." Otherwise, what makes this app Verizon-centric?

BillThyCat
6th August 2008, 07:38 PM
I have noticed recently that my locking on GPS isn't as fast as it once was, it used to be I could walk outside and turn on GPS (with Baf's tool) and have a link in around 1 minute. Now I have to turn it on and not move for 5 minutes or sometimes longer, if I am driving and turn it on, it may never sync until I have a long stop at a light or get to where I'm going and then it locks.

I'm on USCC, so there isn't much info around for poor saps like me, has anyone else with USCC done the GPS update in QPST (the one where you change all the gray boxes to checkmarks)? I haven't tried as I was told it wasn't needed, but I think I may give it a try unless someone here can give me a reason not to.

Thanks,

BTC

Baffles
7th August 2008, 07:14 PM
Geez. I read the app's home page but didn't figure this out. to my thinking, "instant GPS for Verizon" meant "Add GPS capability to your Verizon in an instant." Otherwise, what makes this app Verizon-centric?

It's not Verizon centric. It should work on any phone with GPS. In fact, I did all my development and testing of this on my Sprint phone.

Paul in Maryland
7th August 2008, 09:34 PM
Why, then, do you suppose the original poster title this thread, "Instant GPS for Verizon - BAF GPStoggle"? That's what threw me off.

serfboreds
7th August 2008, 10:24 PM
Why, then, do you suppose the original poster title this thread, "Instant GPS for Verizon - BAF GPStoggle"? That's what threw me off.

I think it was just the original author of the thread being excited as they got their XV6800 to connect quickly. It was a post more for paulash himself than for anyone else. Not such a big deal, its easy to make more of things in retrospect.

parcou
8th August 2008, 11:53 AM
It's not Verizon centric. It should work on any phone with GPS. In fact, I did all my development and testing of this on my Sprint phone.

Well it works so well for me. I agree with the posted about the driving part...I may get lucky at times...but 99% of the time I am in one spot then I lock first.

I do a Quick GPS to get updated download info to the device. Then BAF's tool and I lock. As I posted earlier, I have seen no lock time over 2 min. but most are within a few secs.

Old radio 3.42.20, rom 3.22

albyone
6th October 2008, 02:12 AM
I have been reading this forum for nearly a year, but after I downloaded the latest version of GPSToggle, (After installing the latest Verizon Radio ROM 3.42.50 and OS ROM - DCD 3.2.6.) and clicked the GPS ON icon on my Today screen, I could not believe how fast the GPS locked on - I am talking seconds - the fastest ever - I mean, I fired up TomTom 6 and it loaded my current position instantly. After I clicked on the GPS OFF icon, and ran acbPowerMeter-1.1, power consumption dropped to regular usage.

Mr Baffles, you have solved a nagging problem with the XV6800 - using the onboard GPS to it's fullest potential. I'm just amazed that this has not been picked up by the Google search engines.

Previously, I had to resort to using my external GPS-2000 keychainGPS receiver because the XV6800 GPS took forever to lock on - and I had tried all kinds of remedies that just didn't cut the mustard.

Congrats!

Also, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank DCD and the rest of the XV6800 ROM cracking crew for all their hard work for making the XV6800 useful to it's maximum potential.

parcou
6th October 2008, 03:06 AM
I have been reading this forum for nearly a year, but after I downloaded the latest version of GPSToggle, (After installing the latest Verizon Radio ROM 3.42.50 and OS ROM - DCD 3.2.6.) and clicked the GPS ON icon on my Today screen, I could not believe how fast the GPS locked on - I am talking seconds - the fastest ever - I mean, I fired up TomTom 6 and it loaded my current position instantly. After I clicked on the GPS OFF icon, and ran acbPowerMeter-1.1, power consumption dropped to regular usage.

Mr Baffles, you have solved a nagging problem with the XV6800 - using the onboard GPS to it's fullest potential. I'm just amazed that this has not been picked up by the Google search engines.

Previously, I had to resort to using my external GPS-2000 keychainGPS receiver because the XV6800 GPS took forever to lock on - and I had tried all kinds of remedies that just didn't cut the mustard.

Congrats!

Also, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank DCD and the rest of the XV6800 ROM cracking crew for all their hard work for making the XV6800 useful to it's maximum potential.

I agree...I am a paid supporter of this app... However since GC gps fix I do not use it much however I do use it for...quick gps locking test or just to see how fast I can get a lock in new areas when traveling. But again since the aGPS fix I do not have to prime anymore (for TT7 I just open the app now) and not sure why you are doing this as well if you have a xv6800 AND if you did the fix this app is not needed for locking.

But again the tool is great for the time I really had to use it however I will still keep it on my device

BrianLayman
7th October 2008, 07:25 PM
I think you're getting confused.

I'll point out two different scenarios...
[...]
Now, if scenario 2 occurs, when you bring the phone out of sleep, the toggle will be on obviously, but EVEN if you turn it OFF, the internal gps stays ON. This is what requires the soft reset.

GC what is the last blank in my scenario 3:
3.
-Turn BAF on (turns internal GPS on)
-Use whatever GPS apps you like etc
-Let the phone go to sleep (either on purpose, or by accident)
Result (after sleep): BAF's toggle is ON, The internal gps is ON.
-Turn BAF off: BAF's toggle is OFF, The internal gps is ON.
-Turn BAF on: BAF's toggle is ON, The internal gps is ON.

Fill in the next line:
-Turn BAF off: BAF's toggle is OFF, The internal gps is ?????.


Basically, BAF, I am wondering if you can resolve this issue but ALWAYS sending the ON api call first before senging the off command (or even send OFF ON OFF). The point would be to have .NET correctly aligned with the true state of the internal GPS. Yeah it is a bit hackish but you are getting around a bug. There's probably some .net flag that is out of whack after the sleep. Maybe you can reallign everything this way.

Protonus
7th October 2008, 11:54 PM
There is no reason to use this program anymore with the aGPS hack out...

tssi
8th October 2008, 05:27 PM
There is no reason to use this program anymore with the aGPS hack out...
Personally, I thinks this program is still very useful. It give you instant lock, Where the aGPS sometime take forever to lock.

Protonus
8th October 2008, 06:42 PM
Personally, I thinks this program is still very useful. It give you instant lock, Where the aGPS sometime take forever to lock.

If your aGPS takes more then 20 seconds to lock, from a cold start / soft reset, with a program like google maps, then you have something wrong with your setup. Typically mine locks in 10-15 seconds TOPS.

tssi
9th October 2008, 01:52 AM
If your aGPS takes more then 20 seconds to lock, from a cold start / soft reset, with a program like google maps, then you have something wrong with your setup. Typically mine locks in 10-15 seconds TOPS.
Yes, I think you are right. I was always wondering why it would take so long. Could you please tell me how to set this right. I would not mine losing everything on the phone as I have it all backup.

Thanks

Baffles
21st October 2008, 02:52 AM
Basically, BAF, I am wondering if you can resolve this issue but ALWAYS sending the ON api call first before senging the off command (or even send OFF ON OFF). The point would be to have .NET correctly aligned with the true state of the internal GPS. Yeah it is a bit hackish but you are getting around a bug. There's probably some .net flag that is out of whack after the sleep. Maybe you can reallign everything this way.

I have tried that, it doesn't work. I'm not using .NET either. It is a problem with the drivers, though this (https://developer.sprint.com/show_thread.do?forumId=116&threadid=26216) looks like it may be a fix for that problem. I stumbled upon that, but my Mogul is dead, and I can't really do much testing until my Touch Pro gets here. Unfortunately, this app isn't really needed anymore, and the testing won't do much good on the Touch Pro anyway.

Protonus
21st October 2008, 08:36 PM
Yes, I think you are right. I was always wondering why it would take so long. Could you please tell me how to set this right. I would not mine losing everything on the phone as I have it all backup.

Thanks

Assuming you're Verizon:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix

Baffles
15th November 2008, 06:18 AM
Sprint actually released a fix to the power bug. Install the cab here (https://developer.sprint.com/show_thread.do?forumId=116&threadid=26216)!