Shall we get the Raphael? [Archive]

PPC-Warrior

24th July 2008, 03:51 AM

Checking in!

Just to share a thought. Looking back more than a year ago, I had to spend some good effort hunting for the TyTN 1 (Got the first available variant model Taiwan CHT9000). This year alot of decent phones came out, making decisions much harder to make. I guess it is good news...

The Raphael would be a dream keyboarded WM 6.1 micro SD device but since I currently own the HTC Diamond and Apple iPhone 3G. I have to double think before getting this. May be I will have the Diamond sold and get the Raphael.

The iPhone lacks AD2P Bluetooth which is a serious draw back. The battery is non swappable, no memory card (not really a big deal cos the itunes sync is much more reliable than Active Sync :( ).

Feel free to share your thoughts! :)

kareeem

24th July 2008, 03:52 AM

Wow, you really are a "PPC-Warrior" with all those devices :O.

Pixiewave

24th July 2008, 11:10 PM

Shall we get the Raphael?
Mmm that depends of the performance of the gpu,
or presence of a graphic driver!
Does anybody has information about this issue?

t3nn15dud5

25th July 2008, 01:56 AM

Does it take SDHC or just regular microSD?

jasjamming

25th July 2008, 02:50 AM

takes SDHC up to 32GB

jagnet

25th July 2008, 05:44 AM

What about the famous HTC Dream. its been long roumered to be out before year ends. Would it be worth waiting for I wonder.

Mrjasjam

26th July 2008, 09:54 AM

I have so been waiting for this device to hit the shelves. HTC should have had this thing available 2 weeks ago or at least made some noise about it. Imagine if people knew about this!!

Apple sold 1 million Iphones here in Australia in the first 3 days and you cant even type on the damn thing without having to constantly correct yourself if you have fingers bigger than what my 5 yr old has and the GPS cant speak directions, no messenger and list of draw backs goes on.

I'm just hanging for this thing to arrive.

whatledog

26th July 2008, 04:30 PM

licht77

26th July 2008, 08:38 PM

The T-mobile branded Raphael has a flat backcover...

Smaniac

26th July 2008, 09:15 PM

I can't really think of any reason not to buy a Raphael. This looks like the perfect device for current standards. And I don't think it has any serious flaw, which kept me from buying other devices (like the video issue on Tytn II for example).

Prerna

26th July 2008, 11:07 PM

The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?

Moandal

27th July 2008, 12:27 AM

The only thing that's putting me off is the screen size. 2.8 inches really isn't very big, especially when you're used to the Universal and its wonderful 3.7 inch VGA screen.

The xperia 3 inch screen isn't much bigger than the touch pro, plus I prefer the touch pro styling. I also wonder if the xperia's WVGA screen will cause software compatability problems?

licht77

27th July 2008, 12:37 AM

The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?

1. maybe software problems with that screen solution
2. no video out
3. probably no (or not a lot) support by the chefs and professionals in this community for that hardware...
4. no release date avaliable

Smaniac

27th July 2008, 01:10 AM

The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?

I have read the keyboard is awful. Unless they improve it before releasing, which is highly unlikely because that would change the design, I wouldn't buy it, afterall the main reason for me to choose Pro instead of Diamond is the keyboard, which is considered excellent by some people who had a chance to use it.

Prerna

28th July 2008, 07:44 AM

thanks, your arguments make enough sense to reconsider my liking. I wish the Diamond Pro would have a 3' screen ;-)

ferraripassion

28th July 2008, 09:40 AM

I heard that X-Peria is going to be released only in oct end , so thats quite some time whereas Raphael is scheduled to be launched on aug 5th i guess.
I am eying on the Raphael.

onesolo

28th July 2008, 11:35 AM

The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?
the physical screen size of the X1 is only 0.2" than the Raphael...
A good reason not to go the X1 is the wonderful Xda-developers forum :)
Another is that it's a bit delay

Personally the perfect phone for me would be a Diamond with micro-sd card support and a 3.5" screen with VGA but I sold my prophet and I can't no longer wait for the perfect phone. So, the best for now is the Raphael...

P.S. - Samsung Omnia is also a no go for me cause it doesn't have a stylus...

jamuk2004

28th July 2008, 06:08 PM

Actually the omnia has a stylus which looks like lipsick lol, there's nowhere on the handset to store it thought.. picture below.

http://i.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/samsung-i900-omnia/phone/gsmarena_071.jpg

jwhitham

28th July 2008, 07:20 PM

I am pretty sure I want to get the Touch Pro over the Xperia X1 apart from one thing. The reviews of the Xperia say it's screen is readable under direct sunlight. People I know with the Diamond say it is not.

I've spent the last year with the Tosh G900. It also has the 800x480 like the Xperia but it can't be seen outside. I was thinking that all these small screen high res phones were unreadable in sunlight. Maybe there is a problem with transflective displays at this pixel density?

The Touch Pro has a lot of advantages over the X1, 5 rows of keys, TV out and 640x480 screen (this is better I now know after living with the 800x480 for year and finding loads of apps that wont work). But I like to use TomTom while cycling so sunlight readable would be quite a bonus...

This phone so nearly does everything that I've been waiting so many years for, apart from decent camera with optical zoom and OLED screen. Guess I'll have to wait a few more years before I'm completely happy!

Domitri

29th July 2008, 05:04 PM

Smaniac

29th July 2008, 05:46 PM

Actually the omnia has a stylus which looks like lipsick lol, there's nowhere on the handset to store it thought.. picture below.

Why does the phone come with a screwdriver lol?

iori

2nd August 2008, 10:37 PM

well, I think getting raphael is so much worth it
it's the best choice compared to diamond, X1, and omnia
X1 has unusual resolution screen and ugly design compared to raphael
diamond lacks of memory slot which is a huge backdraw for me
and omnia has no stylus slot which will be annoying to bring the stylus separately, has proprietary custom data port compared to Raphael's standard miniUSB port (huge disadvantage for me)

aublumberg

3rd August 2008, 04:10 AM

Will the Raphael have the same diamond back as the ,uh, Diamond? I read somewhere that the diamond doesn't lay flat on the table. I also read somewhere that there will be an optional flat back. Any thoughts?

The HTC branded Touch Pro has same / similar back cover as the Touch Diamond. Plus it doesn't have the option to tilt the screen, so when you open the keyboard and place it on the table it almost falls over ... you can't type on it properly when it's on the desk (unlike TyTN II) since it just wiggles back and forth ... you have to hold it in your hands. Optional flat back would be nice but haven't heard.

aublumberg

3rd August 2008, 04:12 AM

I have read the keyboard is awful. Unless they improve it before releasing, which is highly unlikely because that would change the design, I wouldn't buy it, afterall the main reason for me to choose Pro instead of Diamond is the keyboard, which is considered excellent by some people who had a chance to use it.

Yes the Touch Pro keyboard is pretty good ... except it should have keys for [OK] and [Microsoft Start menu]

aublumberg

3rd August 2008, 04:15 AM

actually the diamond is the first pda/phone i have that the light sensor really works, if there is too much sun he will increase the display light, for me it is quite readable ( better than x7500 for example )

yes and it works pretty well (as I have just tested in chilly but very sunny Hobart) ... of course it'll hurt your battery life badly if you use it over longer periods

AwarLaw

6th August 2008, 10:54 PM

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Default drivers?
Shall we get the Raphael?
Mmm that depends of the performance of the gpu,
or presence of a graphic driver!
Does anybody has information about this issue?

Does anyone have an answer to Pixiewave?
How are the video drivers on the Raphael??

Thx in advance..

-Aa

no3josh

7th August 2008, 01:56 AM

ok, heres my deal, im looking to get the either the diamond or the touch pro(rapheal) i need an opinion, Which one should i get? serioulsy, im gonna get one of them, u own a diamond so ur opinion would be much appreciated, so please reply

fireblade63

7th August 2008, 07:23 AM

Nevermind the post

Black93300ZX

7th August 2008, 07:42 AM

The HTC branded Touch Pro has same / similar back cover as the Touch Diamond. Plus it doesn't have the option to tilt the screen, so when you open the keyboard and place it on the table it almost falls over ... you can't type on it properly when it's on the desk (unlike TyTN II) since it just wiggles back and forth ... you have to hold it in your hands. Optional flat back would be nice but haven't heard.

Not even close to the Diamond, has about 1/10th the curvature on the back (if even that). Have you ever typed with one on a table?

demonizator

7th August 2008, 09:17 AM

Well I can't say typing on TyTNII when it's on the desk (notebook position) is one of my best experiences. It's absolutely uncomfortable. But tilting the screen is really comfy when holding the device and typing with your two thumbs or even more when you want to watch a video or presentation or just keep an eye on your inbox. Just put it on the desk and enjoy. So I'll definitelly miss this feature.

But can't wait to get the Pro... it's so close to perfection (nothing's perfect you know).

:D