[ROM][New video demos]Schap's 5.00 ROMs with TouchXperience UI-Call to beta testers

[domineus]

and here I didn't want it to get out so fast but yes the email is from schaps...I wonder if it will be ready by next week but I must admit a lot of what he is adding makes it a bit more functional

it seems there is not only the complete menu system rewrite but also a today plugin that utilizes panels on a non wvga device. That in itself is a bit remarkable of a feat!

Of course this also gives a lot of options with widgets system. I wonder if manila will be a continuous option. At least maybe from second today maybe. All in all this is a lot of good news for people.

[THE GRIZZ]

any plan for this rom and some of its components to be ported to xperia, mabe schaps can work with other cooks on this

[nuke1]

any plan for this rom and some of its components to be ported to xperia, mabe schaps can work with other cooks on this
Maybe if you'd read a little further, you would've realised that this ROM is having a multiple platform release.

Anyhow I think this ROM has had its hay day before its release. By the time it's out, there will be better things, not least of which are PUI Home 2, SPB Shell 3, WM6.5. The chef should've worked with a few more chefs so as to have had a timely release, when it would've actually 'WOW'ed.

[R3PUBL1K]

any plan for this rom and some of its components to be ported to xperia, mabe schaps can work with other cooks on this

Maybe in the future, but lets get the ROM working on the devices previously listed

[Kraize]

Maybe if you'd read a little further, you would've realised that this ROM is having a multiple platform release.

Anyhow I think this ROM has had its hay day before its release. By the time it's out, there will be better things, not least of which are PUI Home 2, SPB Shell 3, WM6.5. The chef should've worked with a few more chefs so as to have had a timely release, when it would've actually 'WOW'ed.

How many people do I have to tell this to? Those apps that you've pointed out are only TODAY PLUGINS. >.> Why is no one listening. WM6.5 is not an app, but he's using a WM6.5 build as his base. Read the quoted e-mail. Besides, this rom could work WITH PointUI Home 2, SPB Shell 3, and WM6.5. So please. If you're going to respond and have some reasons, make sure they're valid.

[domineus]

just to echo on kraize's comment
if schaps wanted to work with other developers, he would've already. But then seeing that he hasn't still means something.
This is just a personal nit pick for me but I think that a person that stands back saying what a person should've done is pretty disrespectful to the work he has done for xda developers already.
Matter of opinion here, but I am actually wowed by this still. Even after the eye candy of touch diamond/pro 2 releases. but then this is a matter of opinion

[bram_smulders]

I think Schap's is one of the most guys who get my respect for his work to xda, but i still can get into the mind of some guys here...
They are waiting so long for his release and new ui, wich seems to me is a bit outdated with the SHELL-offence nowadays, every developer has a great shell these days, and some much more intuitive thatn the other...

Schaps touchXperience must be such a great thing to compete with all other out there.
When we first heard of his project it had a WOW factor, now it's just "that other UI besides all other".
But hey who am i to set a point here, schaps always enlighten us with great software, so why he aint doing it now? I hope for the best!

Gr. Bram

[dnetzone]

hey is it expected today?

any updates?

[R3PUBL1K]

hey is it expected today?

any updates?

No update to be mentioned at present - :p

I'm sure someone will post some news when there is some. We all need to be patient

[Kraize]

Hello,

You are receiving this message because you joined TouchXperience private beta test.

As you may have noticed, there were troubles accessing TouchXperience website since beginning of this month, and it was going worse and worse until the server keep crashing over and over again. This is due to the huge amount of traffic that TouchXperience server could not handle, causing system instabilities. So I had to invest in a more powerful server which (I hope) will definitely solve availability problems. Meanwhile neither e-mail did work, so I apologize to you if you tried to contact me and I did not get your message. This should be fixed now, but at this time sending messages from Contact page on the website still does not work, so if you want to contact me please do it by replying this e-mail address.

As I was not able to organize the beta test with all those problems, I decided to go further with this beta by adding some new stuffs and fixing some compatibility issues with Windows Mobile 6.5. TouchMenu will come with some additional menus: Music, Weather, Photos & Videos menus. This beta version will also come with a preview of TouchBoard, you probably never heard about it, this is the evolution of what I previously called TouchNow. But TouchBoard is much more than a Now screen, to explain briefly it has features of both Sony Xperia panels and Samsung TouchWiz. As you can create custom menus with TouchMenu, TouchBoard allows you to create as many custom screens as you want, where you can place widgets, today items, images, various graphical elements, or texts with variables. So you can create your own user interface without any programming knowledge! I will try to include some cool widgets: world clock, calendar, weather, WL Messenger status, media player, RSS reader, search, slideshow...There will be a lot of changes compared to the previous beta! I am planning to release it on Monday or Tuesday, I will let you know when it will be released and I will give you instructions and details. Since now my job will let me more availability, so I could spend more time on TouchXperience development and support. Thank you again for your patience!


Best regards,

Julien Schapman
TouchXperience

It was expected today, but knowing that TouchXperience is a big project, I can wait a few days :)

[nuke1]

I see he's still making some changes. But I do think that there are so many other UIs which is the main factor. Anyhow I hope for the best. Thanks Schaps, for your enormous contribution.

[Kraize]

New update

Hello,

A note to tell you that TouchXperience beta is coming, but once again it took me longer than I announced. Just after I wrote you I knew I spoke too fast, realizing the amount of work I still had to accomplish. But it will be released for 100% during this week (ok we will say 99% in case something really bad happens to me, some of you know how much I am lucky...). I will also benefit from those additional days to rebuild ROMs from the newly released official ROMs, and to implement a simple but useful functionality in TouchMenu, inspired by HTC Touch Diamond2: To display in one screen an history of all the communications you had with a particular contact (calls, E-mails, SMS, MMS, VoiceMails,...). I also wanted to tell you about few things I forgot to mention in my last E-mail: TouchMenu will include also a Connections menu, which lists any type of network connection (Wi-Fi access points, data connections, Bluetooth devices, ActiveSync) and allows you to connect/disconnect in one touch. There is also a Clock menu to add several world clocks and to change current time zone according to the clock you selected, and an RSS Feeds menu. Concerning TouchBoard, I forgot the Gamertag widget, which displays your Xbox Live gamercard or those of your friends.

To conclude, I wanted to say that I started TouchXperience project because I was personally not satisfied with any of the User Interfaces I tried, because they were too limited, too slow or not enough user-friendly, and I still have the same feeling after viewing demos of the upcoming UIs, which are eye-candy but still limited. My aim is to provide the most powerful and customizable interface, trying to innovate and to meet the needs of everyone, from the businessman to the geek! And don’t forget TouchXperience is not only a User Interface, but an extension of the OS (without considering the various applications which will be included!), by adding many features which were originally missing. I hope you will appreciate it, a new forum will be open for beta testers, to gather feedback but also to share ideas for future evolutions.


Best regards,

Julien Schapman
TouchXperience

[korbi]

New update
Thanks for the news. This means in the next 5 days it will be released?!? (Or just the private beta?)
Cant wait for it.

[R3PUBL1K]

Thanks for the news. This means in the next 5 days it will be released?!? (Or just the private beta?)
Cant wait for it.

This will not be a public beta though Schaps mentioned previously that a public beta should follow shortly after the beta for the people that donated.

I do hope no one leaks this before the he releases the public beta.

[slovoflud]

This will not be a public beta though Schaps mentioned previously that a public beta should follow shortly after the beta for the people that donated.

I do hope no one leaks this before the he releases the public beta.
sure, nothing leaks on the internet! :)

[liamhere]

any one posting it here before public beta is open i will remove there posts...
and give them a warning....note to all.....you have been warned.
thank you

[cyron_at]

any one posting it here before public beta is open i will remove there posts...
and give them a warning....note to all.....you have been warned.
thank you
..I hope you don't have much to do..

[SPANX]

can i be a beta tester too?

[Caramel]

Je n'ai rien dit jusqu'à présent laissant les choses suivre leur cours ...

On en est maintenant à l'ajout de fonction du touchflo du diamond 2, je veux bien, mais j'espère que le diamond 3 sortira pas de sitot sans ça ce fameux touchexperience ne sortira jamais ...

Je ne dénigre en rien les capacités de développement de shap's, loin de là, ce que je ne tolère en aucun cas c'est de prendre les gens pour des cons ... Pas pret pour une bêta ? A quoi sert une bêta si ce n'est à tester et à faire remonter des informations ? Plus ça va plus des fonctions sont rajoutées, fonctions qui me semble prometeuses, mais sont elles nécéssaires sans l'avis des testeurs ? Fonctions qui à chaque fois repoussent d'un peu plus la mise en ligne d'une version viable ( si tant est qu'il y en ai une ... ) ...

Dernier point et non des moindres, c'est le fait que ça le fait rire de voir que certains s'amusent à faire des modifs du flo ou autres ... ( fc : un mail de sa part mais je ne connait plus l'adresse du lien ... ) alors que lui est en train de faire l'UI qui va révolutioner ... soit, mais dans ce cas le respect des gens va dans les deux sens, au moins les "petits" font des bêta que tout le monde peut tester, eux ! Ils essayent et modifient en fonction des remontées d'infos, eux !

Faudrait arrêter de se moquer du monde et pondre quelque chose, même si c'est pas fini, mais une base sur laquelle tous les gens qui ont donné puissent participer, et non rester cloitré à rajouter des fonctions d'appareils qui ne sont même pas encore sur le marché !

PS for the moderator, let peoples read before deleting, democratie, democratie ...

[DaveShaw]

PS for the moderator, let peoples read before deleting, democratie, democratie ...

PS, for the poster, please translate into English as per forum rules, or I will delete ;).

Google translate doesn't translate it well to English (see even I can't type in English now :)).

Thanks
Dave

[liamhere]

Je n'ai rien dit jusqu'à présent laissant les choses suivre leur cours ...

On en est maintenant à l'ajout de fonction du touchflo du diamond 2, je veux bien, mais j'espère que le diamond 3 sortira pas de sitot sans ça ce fameux touchexperience ne sortira jamais ...

Je ne dénigre en rien les capacités de développement de shap's, loin de là, ce que je ne tolère en aucun cas c'est de prendre les gens pour des cons ... Pas pret pour une bêta ? A quoi sert une bêta si ce n'est à tester et à faire remonter des informations ? Plus ça va plus des fonctions sont rajoutées, fonctions qui me semble prometeuses, mais sont elles nécéssaires sans l'avis des testeurs ? Fonctions qui à chaque fois repoussent d'un peu plus la mise en ligne d'une version viable ( si tant est qu'il y en ai une ... ) ...

Dernier point et non des moindres, c'est le fait que ça le fait rire de voir que certains s'amusent à faire des modifs du flo ou autres ... ( fc : un mail de sa part mais je ne connait plus l'adresse du lien ... ) alors que lui est en train de faire l'UI qui va révolutioner ... soit, mais dans ce cas le respect des gens va dans les deux sens, au moins les "petits" font des bêta que tout le monde peut tester, eux ! Ils essayent et modifient en fonction des remontées d'infos, eux !

Faudrait arrêter de se moquer du monde et pondre quelque chose, même si c'est pas fini, mais une base sur laquelle tous les gens qui ont donné puissent participer, et non rester cloitré à rajouter des fonctions d'appareils qui ne sont même pas encore sur le marché !

PS for the moderator, let peoples read before deleting, democratie, democratie ...


so i can respond to your post
thank you

[DaveShaw]

Ok fighting over :)

C'mon guys, there's no need to carry on like this. Can't this thread be left clean for updates on the project.

Thanks
Dave

[fatchopra]

This is lookign really good Schap!
Cant wait till its released, have changed roms and plug-ins many times but this definitely looks like the best package i have seen. Donation on its way :D
Keep up the great work!

[slovoflud]

This is lookign really good Schap!
Cant wait till its released, have changed roms and plug-ins many times but this definitely looks like the best package i have seen. Donation on its way :D
Keep up the great work!
finally, some reactions! :)

[_4saken_]

Ok fighting over :)

C'mon guys, there's no need to carry on like this. Can't this thread be left clean for updates on the project.

Thanks
Dave

yeah, sure. keep deleting all the posts. if this thread is for updates from schap only, you can clear out the other 50 pages as well, because the posts from schaps probably fit on one page....

so much for freedom of speech...

[liamhere]

if off topic.....or fighting....
thank you

[vincej]

so much for freedom of speech...

What has freedom of speech to do with anything? This is a private website provided for free to anyone who wants to use it, and I am sure that everyone here has found something to help them, at absolutely no charge.

Those who have donated have done so out of their own volition and no guarantees of special powers or access have been promised to those who do donate.

In short, the owners, and those who they have put in place to moderate this site and the various forums it contains can do whatever the heck they want with it at any time, for any reason. This includes deleting, removing, editing, banning and shutting down the whole show, and all that without any obligation to explain their actions.

We each come here with no obligation, recieving help, support and software others have put together at no cost, out of a desire to serve the greater good (or have their ego stroked, either way there is no fee for it).

From some of the posts on here it makes me wonder why people come here if all they want to do is complain about things not happening quick enough or they don't like the way it is moderated.

No one is forcing anyone else to come to this site, download apps, or post anything. If you don't like it, DON'T COME HERE!

[snoopyrph]

I completely agree with you on that. Freedom of speech or press has nothing to do with it. Forgive him, he just wrongly interpret the constitution. We come here and receive benefit at no cost without contribute anything, just like welfare system, why the heck people complaint? I don't get it LOL. It's my 2 cent.

[zmob123]

Here's my blunt way of thinking that is completly unbiased to an side, anything goes until Schaps release, which may cause in XDA favor a world record of posts on a board about nothing or bitchin however you wanna look at it. Just kidding, well maybe a little.

[Kraize]

Expect it today. ;)

[cyron_at]

Expect it today. ;)
...for beta testers, for dontated people or official?

[Kraize]

...for beta testers, for dontated people or official?

Oh. I'm sorry :o For Private beta testers.

[capsman]

Expect it today. ;)

you know the movie "the day after tomorrow"? ;)

[Kraize]

Schaps is having some problems so please don't get overexcited either guys.

He said this in an email a half-hour ago.

ROMs are almost ready, but I have a serious issue with touchscreen driver, I don’t know how long it will take to fix it…

I don’t think I will be able to finish this night, I slept only few hours during the week to be sure I will finish at good time but, again problems… :(

[mister-gwada97one]

Can I be a beta tester?

[Kraize]

Can I be a beta tester?

Not for private ;) For public yes, or donate to get in on the donator private beta.

[Kraize]

Just hold out a little more guys! And if you're a PRIVATE beta tester/donater for touchxperience, please give me a PM either here or on the touchxperience forum and I can give you permission to see the private beta section.

Received @ 6:27PM GMT -8
Hello,

ROMs are almost ready, unfortunately I have a serious issue with touch screen driver, and I don’t know how long I will need to fix it... Again I was not able to finish within the given time, I am really sorry, but believe me I did my best, I almost did not sleep the whole week and tonight I don’t progress because of this annoying problem, I don’t know if I will be able to finish during the night.

I’m sure I will get again a lot of complaints about the situation, but I would like all of you to understand that working on such a huge project takes a lot of time, there are always problems which need patience to be solved, a lot of investigation and reflection... I am almost sure TouchXperience is the most complex piece of software ever developed on Windows Mobile, I hope you will realize it when I will have released all my work. With a full-time job I can work only during nights and week-ends so it’s hard to estimate the time I would need. I'm aware I made mistakes in the past because I was always adding new functionalities, the project became bigger and bigger and eventual beta releases were always delayed. Now functionalities are fixed for the upcoming beta, but I can’t release TouchXperience as a simple program, it is an OS extension and due to its deep integration there are many aspects I need to care before packaging into a ROM upgrade. I am as much impatient as you to release this beta, because I am tired of stressing all the nights since so long, because I would like to share and get feedback of my work, and of course because I hope people will be willing to donate for using TouchXperience!

Some good news: People who don’t want to take the risk to flash their device could also participate to the beta testing, I will release individually some parts of TouchXperience which will be compatible with a large variety of devices. During the last months I made a lot of changes to guaranty compatibility with other devices (such as Xperia, Omnia, and others great devices to come). But this is not for now yet.

TouchXperience comes with a program which will check for updates and install them automatically, so you won’t have to re-flash your device after every new release. I plan even several updates a week, things will get much faster once beta will be released! It will also come with a bug reporting tool, don’t hesitate to use it if you encounter any problem. A forum dedicated to private beta testing has been created, where you are encouraged to participate, to share your feedback, ideas and experiences. Please register on the forum if you did not already (http://forum.touchxperience.com/) and don’t hesitate to let me a note if you still can’t access this forum in the following days (we have to add you manually in forum beta testers group).

I would like to thank all the donators and supporters, because without them I think I would have give up this project since a long time, like most of my other projects... Not that money motivates me (as it’s far to be a salary), but I know your interest for this project and I know I must give you what you paid for (even if it’s a donation). As always, thank you for your patience!


Best regards,

Julien Schapman
TouchXperience

[R3PUBL1K]

The biggest of fake that the world never seen !!! hiow many dollars ? how many euros ? All that for nothing ! Since one year, and brutally a beta, private svp ! nothing for all the donnors, only the donors and private mesages have a private ! It's my turn to laugh !!!

Yee of little faith...

Give the bloke a break.

"Rome was not built in a day" and if it was it would not be standing now, and be one of the worlds greatest cities.

Remember this is an enlish forum - so, as per rules, please also write your message in English, so we can all understand.

Thanks

[liamhere]

only me.....cleaning the thread....again :rolleyes:

[Caramel]

Hum Liam you're my beast !!! I only said what peaople think !:)

[liamhere]

but voicing it in this manner in this thread will only cause fighting in the thread.
this is the only reason i am removing your posts.
if you have a problem with the OP.....private message him.
please don't do this just to cause trouble.
thank you

[mister-gwada97one]

Not for private ;) For public yes, or donate to get in on the donator private beta.

yes, public beta ;)

[Caramel]

No remorses ...

[dickenz]

yes, public beta ;)

I think you misunderstood, feel free to correct me if that is not the case but there is only a private beta for donators at the moment. There is no public beta or a date set for one.

I await my private beta test anxiously.

[Kraize]

I think you misunderstood, feel free to correct me if that is not the case but there is only a private beta for donators at the moment. There is no public beta or a date set for one.

I await my private beta test anxiously.

No. I was saying he could join public beta :) He asked to be a tester.

[dickenz]

No. I was saying he could join public beta :) He asked to be a tester.

Oh I knew that haha... I wasn't sure if he misunderstood your answer...

Course he could join the public beta, when it comes about :)

[Kraize]

The people that have PM'd me have gotten access. Right now I'm going on honesty. So if I find out that anyone told me wrong and I've added them, they will later be banned from the touchxperience forums. And if I haven't added you, please check if you can see 5 sections in the touchxperience forum and do tell me. If you have access, you should be able to see a section called "TouchXperience Beta Test."

[R3PUBL1K]

The people that have PM'd me have gotten access. Right now I'm going on honesty. So if I find out that anyone told me wrong and I've added them, they will later be banned from the touchxperience forums. And if I haven't added you, please check if you can see 5 sections in the touchxperience forum and do tell me. If you have access, you should be able to see a section called "TouchXperience Beta Test."

I see the five - Thanks :D

[vincej]

Does this mean that the public beta will be out sometime this weekend? I thought I read that he was going to have a week or so for the private beta, or am I confused? Or both?

Also, does anyone have any feedback yet on it?

[Herbalisation]

Does this mean that the public beta will be out sometime this weekend? I thought I read that he was going to have a week or so for the private beta, or am I confused? Or both?

Also, does anyone have any feedback yet on it?

yeah i'd like to know where we're at...no review by kraize yet so im pretty sure the private beta isn't out...prove me wrong...please

[Kraize]

Private beta is not yet out. As soon as you see a review/post about it from me, you'll know. And please don't PM me to JOIN beta testing now because we have the beta testers. We will only add the members that schaps has on his private beta testing list. I've already had incidents with 2 users.

[Herbalisation]

Private beta is not yet out. As soon as you see a review/post about it from me, you'll know. And please don't PM me to JOIN beta testing now because we have the beta testers. We will only add the members that schaps has on his private beta testing list. I've already had incidents with 2 users.

thought so. I won't be pm'ing you or bothering you in any way, I'm just wondering where the progress is...as usual. Looking forward to the day I see your review kraize...THEN ill be bothering you ;)

[Kraize]

Also, may I remind you that getting access to these sections does not give you access to the download of the private beta. It is merely for discussion and developement. So if you're not on the private beta list, but can access the private beta section, it really does you no good. Once the private beta is out and you feel that you should've gotten it, drop me a message and I'll talk to schaps.

[cyron_at]

Also, may I remind you that getting access to these sections does not give you access to the download of the private beta. It is merely for discussion and developement. So if you're not on the private beta list, but can access the private beta section, it really does you no good. Once the private beta is out and you feel that you should've gotten it, drop me a message and I'll talk to schaps.
...any update/idea when it will be released for "us"?
br

[Smoky]

The more it's long......

I hope it's coming out soon like everybody, but i imagine it's unusefull to upload a version with to many bugs.

Good luck Shap's, France believes in you !!

[korbi]

...any update/idea when it will be released for "us"?
br
There is no public beta planned at the moment...

[R3PUBL1K]

Rofl, he is a kid who has no friends.
When his rom is done we all have windows mobile 8.
I know that from the beginning that all of his is just hot air and bla bla.
Keep your rom but leave us alone little kid.

:eek: why try and insult someone you don't even know? Schaps is a valuable part of this community and his contributions are always welcome. He has worked hard on this development and will release it when good and ready.

I would rather wait for a good beta with little or no bugs instead of a very buggy ROM which people endlessly complained about and move away from.

[energyadj]

For many people "Schaps" is a Brand :cool: ! A brand of best cooked rom's ! I have used along the time .. many of his roms !
I think that the "hard" part of the TouchXperience Project , almost passed ..and we have a little time to wait ... So people Patience and Respect for his work !
Respect !

[Jura_ZG]

Man, I just realized, schaps touchexperience really reminds me of WM 6.5(maybe M$ ripped the idea of it ;)).
It has similar "philosophy" to it, i mean when you press start it immediately takes you to programs menu. To me it has somehow a similar "vibe" to it.
Of course, schaps Ui looks much smoother compared to honeycomb i've seen even on diamond2. Also accelerometer control and other stuff that is incorporated in schaps Touchexp UI is something not yet found in wm.
Hope we'll see touch experience soon.
Cheers.

[Kraize]

Actually, schaps was put off by the negative response from the community here and at the touchxperience forums and by the e-mails he received. He's decided to suspend public beta for now.

This is part of an e-mail that private beta testers received.
Finally I decided that I won’t plan any public beta (at least not for the moment) after reading so many ungrateful comments from people who don’t respect or don’t realize all the work I am doing, I think I will offer my creations only to people who are willing to actively support this project, so you will have the priviledge to use TouchXperience. Some people even said that donators are crazy to donate in advance, I will not take position as I understand most of people would not like to donate until they can get something concrete, but I just wanted to tell you how much donations are important for the project. Not that I want to get the most possible money from this project, but donations help me to invest in new devices necessary to port TouchXperience on them, thanks to generous people I could already buy an HTC Touch Diamond, a Touch Pro, a Touch HD and I will invest in new devices as soon as I can afford it.

To all those who felt that that schaps stole your money, it isn't true! First off, you've donated. He didn't force a gun to your head and ask you for money. And second off, all those donations help him get new devices. For now, he can only make a QVGA and VGA version of TouchXperience. Thanks to all your donations, he can and might buy a Touch HD or a Xperia. That should get things working for the WVGA part of touchxperience. So donations indeed do help! It also motivates him to work more on TouchXperience, because in this economy, who couldn't use a little extra money? ;)

[R3PUBL1K]

Totally agree :D

Since the popularity of the HTC touch devices (like Diamond) there are so many free loaders on here, who want everything for nothing.

[ulluvme]

I too am a disappointed donor. I did not donate to receive a benefit beyond the thought of supporting the project. However my decision was based upon promises as to features and release dates promises made by Schapps that led me to believe that the project was worth donation.

Quite honestly I am in shock at how many broken promises Schapps has made. Broken promises which I imagine induced waves of donations. Each posting about a coming release yielded new interest. Say what you want but ethics and integrity are lacking.

It is simple....tell people you will release when you are ready. Schapps has received a great degree of donations from his unreliable promises and now seems to act inncoent of any responsibility.

It would be like the United Way not supporting projects after taking donations.

Sincerely,

George Castrataro, MPH, JD
Attorney at Law
www.lawgc.com

[Bonta768]

@ulluvme

Life is disappointing... so what. Promises made on a forum followed by a *donation* do not constitute a formal contract. Software development is not a straight forward process (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month), and delays may be unforseen, not malicious. schaps has many other forum users that can vouch for his sincerity and integrity, and his contributions to these forums (1500 messages in 3 years) are far greater than yours (8 messages in 5 years).

I actually develop software professionally.
http://www.virtualspectator.com/

[rl2000]

Well, I did write in this thread earlier, never negatively though. I just hope that Schaps doesn't think that everybody hates him and thinks he's a liar.

Personally I'm very excited about this project and yes, just as impatient as anyone when it comes to software you're really psyched about.

I think Schaps should stop taking the haters so seriously and realize that for every crybaby there's hundreds of silent supporters. That's how it's always been and always will be. People who feel let down are quicker to post than people who await with patience, that's nothing new.

But let me get this straight, there won't public release for some time due to the ungratefulness of people spamming him with hate?

Is the private beta out yet? Just want to know how far he's gotten, it looks really awesome, I can't even begin to imagine the hours he's put into it.

[dickenz]

I too am a disappointed donor. I did not donate to receive a benefit beyond the thought of supporting the project. However my decision was based upon promises as to features and release dates promises made by Schapps that led me to believe that the project was worth donation.

Quite honestly I am in shock at how many broken promises Schapps has made. Broken promises which I imagine induced waves of donations. Each posting about a coming release yielded new interest. Say what you want but ethics and integrity are lacking.

It is simple....tell people you will release when you are ready. Schapps has received a great degree of donations from his unreliable promises and now seems to act inncoent of any responsibility.

It would be like the United Way not supporting projects after taking donations.

Sincerely,

George Castrataro, MPH, JD
Attorney at Law
www.lawgc.com

From my point of view. If I was doing what Schaps was doing, regardless of delays and things of that nature - Upon reading posts like that I would too regret my efforts and not only that but totally consider canning the project that is essentially a deep customization to improve our phones beyond probably what we can fathom.

I have read a million posts from various users who vouch for Schaps ROMs and their stability and integrity. They also state they are the ROMs they keep coming back to, for the devices he has cooked for. Not to mention his software would be found on nearly every single phone - Advanced Config.

Being an attorney at law it's clear you've never developed anything. You obviously don't understand the procedure involved nor the potential hiccups.

And you seem to be missing a key point in this matter, you donated by choice. Schaps never asked for a payment, he simply gave you the option to donate to be apart of the private beta test. It was up to you to do so. And the icing on the cake is, the project would have been expanding this entire time so there has always been more reason to donate as he designed and created more features for the ROM, those donations went towards the growth of his project so he could support many devices and resolutions.

I highly doubt there is any malicious intent and I await my copy of the private beta anxiously but patiently. He has never claimed innocence in any of the emails I have received but stated there has been delays and he is working on it. I don't think I speak for only myself when I say I would much prefer a 99.9% working version that is a keeper of a ROM as opposed to a 80% working version with glitches and bugs that make daily use a hassle.

Take my post with a pinch of salt but I prefer to remain positive.


I think Schaps should stop taking the haters so seriously and realize that for every crybaby there's hundreds of silent supporters. That's how it's always been and always will be. People who feel let down are quicker to post than people who await with patience, that's nothing new.

But let me get this straight, there won't public release for some time due to the ungratefulness of people spamming him with hate?

Is the private beta out yet? Just want to know how far he's gotten, it looks really awesome, I can't even begin to imagine the hours he's put into it.

Yes you do have a point there. There would be hundreds of silent supporters sitting back waiting patiently as we all should.

And yes that is correct, he has reserved TouchXperience for solely a private beta for the meantime due to the negative posts directed his way. Not just on here though.

No private beta is not out yet. He stated the source code was 70mb - 70mb of text!!! That should translate into many, many, many hours.

[rl2000]

How do I donate? On the TouchXperience website or?

[energyadj]

You can donate on TouchXperience site ...or everywhere is the schaps donate link (under his posts ...) ...on the first page of this topic...etc !

...by the way .... I am one of the TouchXperience sillent supporter too !
Respect!

[slovoflud]

I'm Silently waiting too! :) best of luck to Schaps! Waiting for the ROM!

[ulluvme]

Thanks for your feedback Dickens.....I wasnt always a lawyer and worked in software for years. I am very familiar with development. I know that a mans word means a lot regardless of occupation. I think Schapp is a brilliant and love advanced config. I would not change the fact I donated. I stand behind the idea that people make donations based upon their faith in the entity to which they donate. That faith often comes from promises....when the promises are not fulfilled often the faith is lost. Sometimes no promise is far better than a broken one. It would be a shame for someone as skilled as Schapps to lose credibility given this issue.

[Kraize]

Yes! Indeed public beta has been stopped as of now. Schaps is still working hard to release the private beta, and I'll let you guys know ASAP when he sends the private beta testers the rom. You'll have a full in-depth review that I will write during a 5 day period. I'll have screenshots and possibly videos. So as soon as you see a thread by me about TouchXperience in either the Diamond Rom or Raphael rom section, you'll know that the private beta is released. But for now, he's working hard and appreciating the donations which encourage him to work ;)

As a side note, I don't work for Schaps or am related to him in any way. I just support him and the work he does. I could be like half the majority and whine about when he'll release it, but instead I do other creative things and tell people about TouchXperience and gather more interest on the development rather than just whining. You people might be familiar with developement and whatever you do, but this is Schap's first coding project. It's also the biggest one. He's trying to make it perfect. You all know that Advanced Config is a great tool and is found on nearly every rom and device here. He just developed a great app. I have high expectations for this rom, no matter when it's released, because schaps will make it better. It wouldn't matter if WM6.5 is released, Schaps will make it compatible and better than what microsoft puts out.

[lucasjohny]

Yes! Indeed public beta has been stopped as of now. Schaps is still working hard to release the private beta, and I'll let you guys know ASAP when he sends the private beta testers the rom. You'll have a full in-depth review that I will write during a 5 day period. I'll have screenshots and possibly videos. So as soon as you see a thread by me about TouchXperience in either the Diamond Rom or Raphael rom section, you'll know that the private beta is released. But for now, he's working hard and appreciating the donations which encourage him to work ;)

As a side note, I don't work for Schaps or am related to him in any way. I just support him and the work he does. I could be like half the majority and whine about when he'll release it, but instead I do other creative things and tell people about TouchXperience and gather more interest on the development rather than just whining. You people might be familiar with developement and whatever you do, but this is Schap's first coding project. It's also the biggest one. He's trying to make it perfect. You all know that Advanced Config is a great tool and is found on nearly every rom and device here. He just developed a great app. I have high expectations for this rom, no matter when it's released, because schaps will make it better. It wouldn't matter if WM6.5 is released, Schaps will make it compatible and better than what microsoft puts out.

Thanks for the info, hope to hear good news soon, keep up the good works, in this world nothing is perfect, human always have their own way of thinking, drop the hate be focus, live your life in happy way.

[liamhere]

Behave guys....you have been warned
PLEASE SHOW RESPECT FOR MEMEBERS IN THIS FORUM
thread cleaning time again.
thank you

[wicksie]

This thread is unfortunately becoming a comedy in the making. I wish everyone that has something unconstructive to say would just shut their eyes and go somewhere else...nobody is forcing ppl to stay in this thread, nobody is forcing ppl to wait for the new project...if you cannot wait for this great arrival on the horizon in an orderly fashion then perhaps you don't need it and shouldn't be clogging up this thread.

I for one will sit quietly again and wait for the master to teach us what he can.

The earth took God 7 days to make, perfection takes perhaps a little longer!

[Kraize]

I mean seriously, if all you guys are going to do is complain, I might as well stop telling you what schaps updates me and private beta testers on in e-mails since most private beta testers have stopped posting updates anyways. I only update hoping you guys might actually get convinced that it is real and it's one step closer to being perfected and released, but you people are a lost generation. I'm going to stop updating this thread. You might as well lock it now. Thank all the idiots who've not supported this project and just complain and make liamhere clean this thread again and again (Btw, thanks for the cleaning liamhere ;))

From now on, if you guys want updates on private beta/what's new, please PM me with the subject "TouchXperience Supporter" and tell me your e-mail address, so I can create a group of those who are genuinely interested and I'll keep them updated. Or better yet, sign up on the TouchXperience forum and then PM me here and tell me your s/n on the forum so I can create a group there with you're own section to have updates and discussion on how to make TouchXperience better because you are the real supporters. Either/or, just send a PM my way. I'll take both ways. Either sign up for the forums or via e-mail or both. Just let me know which you prefer.

[Kraize]

Dude! Stop posting random crap lol. You're drunk or high or something. I'm in the same cahoot that private beta testers are in haha. How about I let you feel the glory of having the public beta release link (when continued) ten seconds before I release it so you have 10 seconds of glory when it is released haha.

Kraize,

Damn you, you liar, post the beta, I swear on the grave of my first Diamond I will com for you!!! I know you have it! I know yo and Schaps are in cahoots (I love that word), so give it up. I thought we were boys, friends forever and all that. This is how you do me, I said on my first Diamond man, and I mean it!!! TouchXperiance leaked beta will be mine!!!!!!! Once I get it, I will horde it and nobody else will ever feel the glory that I will feel, but will tell you all about it, but you won't feel it! I may leak it for a few seconds and then take it down.....maybe. Until then the rest of you piss off, I know the mods and Kraize want to say, but they wont admit to it because the have reps to hold up, not me though, so piss off! Discuss anything but your freebe complaints. Everyone else, continue as you were.

By the waym, lost my first Diamond to MicroP error, which I still have and never sent in. I just charge it and then take the battery out for a spare, cause im rich bitch!

[liamhere]

NOTE TO ALL.....
POSTS MOANING OR OFF TOPIC....WILL BE REMOVED.
thank you

[wicksie]

NOTE TO ALL.....
POSTS MOANING OR OFF TOPIC....WILL BE REMOVED.
thank you
I posted on topic and in support of Schaps and I got moderated and removed; how does that work? :eek:

[liamhere]

I posted on topic and in support of Schaps and I got moderated and removed; how does that work? :eek:

sorry....i ticked one to many....i am human you know :rolleyes:
your post is back :)

[wicksie]

...thank you Liamhere, support shown is supported appreciated

[yxgwfty]

If you've been around here at all, you know that there are the givers and the takers. To all the Givers, thank you. Of the the Takers, there are those who come here finding a wealth of information, resource, and sheer brilliant talent and they are Thankful for the help and chance to learn about these amazing devices and what they themselves can do with them. Conversely, there are the Takers that are pure selfish morons who fail to understand everything I just said. They care mostly about themselves without the care of what it takes to bring them this wonderful array of information. These people are the ones who we read about who have been moderated and have had their voices rightly muted.... however, their effect is made. Of the Givers, those of us who have been "burning" our devices since we impatiently recieved them, ALL know of the ones who opened our eyes to the possibilities. CRC, Schap, Tai....just to name a few, have given us MANY variants and colorful opportunities. To all the people who make this community thrive, I thank you. No matter if you simply wrote a fix for my 5th button, gave me the ability to customize nearly every aspect of my Hermes, or if you came here a nooby and customized your very first ROM and shared it with all of us, YOU make this community work.

.....and to the Takers, this is why this forum exists. We provide the thoughts, suggestions, tried and failed or sometimes successfull endevours to make our own devices better, or fit our needs. Then, we all share that information for everybody to take. You can be grateful and NEVER GIVE A DIME, and we will ALL welcome you here. For those who choose to denegrate, demean, and criticize out of spite and stupidity..... well, we know where you will be the next time your device locks up, or you need that neat application, or simply want that different theme. We will still be here, and we hope that you will show at least some respect for those who Give so you can take.

As for Touchxperience, and Julian..... When it is done, if it gets to the point where HE feels HE can give it to us, then we will all be here to share it. If you don't wish to wait, there are plenty of other projects you can visit.

I think I speak for all the grateful members of XDA when I say thank you to all the Givers, and I hope that they continue to enjoy giving their time and talent.


Thank You.

[guythomaz]

I think it is absolutly not necessary to anounce something and let talk people about that for half an year. We have now 58 pages, most is just spam.

I think if something is almost ready, announcement is okay, but not half year before.

When this product comes out, maybe for 6.1 it is already old, because all want to use it with 6.5. But all the respect for the developer.

Anyway, just my 50 cent.

[Kraize]

I think it is absolutly not necessary to anounce something and let talk people about that for half an year. We have now 58 pages, most is just spam.

I think if something is almost ready, announcement is okay, but not half year before.

When this product comes out, maybe for 6.1 it is already old, because all want to use it with 6.5. But all the respect for the developer.

Anyway, just my 50 cent.

True. Schaps did make that mistake of announcing it too early.

1 year of blablabla

Sigh. Again with the disrespectful comments.

[R3PUBL1K]

1 year of blablabla

Another pointless post -

Development takes time and patience -something you may lack?

I think it is absolutly not necessary to anounce something and let talk people about that for half an year. We have now 58 pages, most is just spam.

I think if something is almost ready, announcement is okay, but not half year before.

When this product comes out, maybe for 6.1 it is already old, because all want to use it with 6.5. But all the respect for the developer.

Anyway, just my 50 cent.

I bet the US space shuttle build and launch was not announced and released in 6 months. Nor many other developments - which could be a very long list indeed.

Just my thrupenny bit worth

[madlazytom]

I mean seriously, if all you guys are going to do is complain, I might as well stop telling you what schaps updates me and private beta testers on in e-mails since most private beta testers have stopped posting updates anyways. I only update hoping you guys might actually get convinced that it is real and it's one step closer to being perfected and released, but you people are a lost generation. I'm going to stop updating this thread. You might as well lock it now. Thank all the idiots who've not supported this project and just complain and make liamhere clean this thread again and again (Btw, thanks for the cleaning liamhere ;))

From now on, if you guys want updates on private beta/what's new, please PM me with the subject "TouchXperience Supporter" and tell me your e-mail address, so I can create a group of those who are genuinely interested and I'll keep them updated. Or better yet, sign up on the TouchXperience forum and then PM me here and tell me your s/n on the forum so I can create a group there with you're own section to have updates and discussion on how to make TouchXperience better because you are the real supporters. Either/or, just send a PM my way. I'll take both ways. Either sign up for the forums or via e-mail or both. Just let me know which you prefer.
can you count me in TouchXperience Supporter thank you

[casihasi]

Hi everybody!

My first post in this forum: Just to keep the balance. I think many supporters are waiting silently for TouchXperience while others are complaining even louder. So I will break the silence of the silent, patient people.

As a developer myself (although I did no so complex project by myself so far) I know that it can happen to announce something to early: Everything seems ready, there are just some more or less tiny things to fix yet. And then one of the tiny things turns out problematic. And this leads to other tiny things that must be done. Chainreaction. And suddenly the release is delayed more and more.

And the complaining of the impatient ones pulls energy which could have been used for further development...

I clearly understand, when Julian needs a break and he should take it whenever he likes - and we should respect his work. Hey, our devices are working, lets just be glad they will be working even better in the future!

Respect and best wishes to Schaps!
Carsten

[arche3]

when Touch Experience is finished we will most likely be on to the Touch Diamond 2 and wm6.5. possibly wm7 hopefully soon as well. Will all of the work be wasted on a UI that is unable to work with the newer wm os?

[iceblade997]

well i for one am still very confident that this will be very very excellent when it comes out - i haven't seen any UI that purports to have as many features and as much customisation, not even anythiong from the great SPB people... so i am perfectly wllling to wait in the sidelines until it gets done :D.

keep going, Schaps!

[bbdoc]

Does anyone know if TouchXP will be optimized for an HTC Tytn as well? This is already a quite old device, so it doesn't have the RAM and internal storage of the new diamond, but I'd like to continue using it anyway...

[wez89]

WOW i watched the videos, truly amazing. Who cares how long this will take, 1 year, 2 years, in the end its something nobody has done so why complain? I cant wait for the release, im sure once this is released it will be cooked in with the new manila2. Even so il be using it regardless, thanks to all the developers, beta-testers and kraize for the updates (:

[mahd-leb]

complain complain !!!!..... well i for one i just wanna say thanks for your time schaps developing touchx take your time when your ready we will be here :D great job bro

[GriFolle]

Yeah Shaps...

TAKE YOUR TIME AND ANNOUNCE IT (MAYBE) FOR TOMORROW...
6 months are too much for me (and for my intelligence: In this period I've refreshed so many times this 3d that I can't remember...)

(maybe just my - sarcastic - blablabla...)

[mahd-leb]

not even gonna comment back on you because i dnt want to start pointless posts

i feel some peoples negative comments has made schaps feel unpreciated and killed his ambition to work on touchx and his dedication i want to start a petition that will show schaps some thanks for his work and get him to keep worken on touchx so it can be out soon if you want to show your appreciate pm with your name and email and i will include it to the list ...... :P iam hoping to make a big list so come on guys you would never know what lil love can do :P you might see touchx in a week :P !!

[dickenz]

not even gonna comment back on you because i dnt want to start pointless posts

i feel some peoples negative comments has made schaps feel unpreciated and killed his ambition to work on touchx and his dedication i want to start a petition that will show schaps some thanks for his work and get him to keep worken on touchx so it can be out soon if you want to show your appreciate pm with your name and email and i will include it to the list ...... :P iam hoping to make a big list so come on guys you would never know what lil love can do :P you might touchx in a week :P !!

Dude... Relax - Yes you're right, a lot of posts here and on other forums may have offended Schaps and disheartened his efforts - And hats off to you for being proactive in supporting him but the mods here and on other forums are taking care of the negative posts. Doing their job as required. We have liamhere to thank for cleaning the rubbish from this thread.

Schaps is still working on TouchXperience. He is just not planning a public beta at this stage. It will be out soon enough, patience is a virtue.

[Kraize]

Okay guys that have PM'd me, please watch this thread for a bit. Currently, I have 16 people that have signed up! I'll start keeping them informed once new information starts coming out. Don't expect me to give away the details of conversations I have with schaps, but you can expect to know what other private beta testers know. I am also looking for some graphics artists. Currently, the only graphics artist I know that would be ready to skin touchxperience is htctoucher. I personally love the menu as it is, but I know others always want something difference. Let me tell you all this though, the apps that schaps mentions on his site, will be available to the public and as downloadable apps.

[bbdoc]

Okay guys that have PM'd me, please watch this thread for a bit. Currently, I have 16 people that have signed up! I'll start keeping them informed once new information starts coming out. Don't expect me to give away the details of conversations I have with schaps, but you can expect to know what other private beta testers know. I am also looking for some graphics artists. Currently, the only graphics artist I know that would be ready to skin touchxperience is htctoucher. I personally love the menu as it is, but I know others always want something difference. Let me tell you all this though, the apps that schaps mentions on his site, will be available to the public and as downloadable apps.Thanks Kraize for this feedback... If Schaps needs a beta tester on an HTC Tytn, in case there isn't one already, I'm available (I never cooked any ROM, so I don't have any experience on this, but I have been in the testing field for some years)... just in case anyway...

As far as graphic artists are concerned, I'm pretty sure some of them will show up as soon as a release is available... and from what I could see, the interface is so flexible I'm not sure a lot more graphic is necessary...

By the way, just to tell I'm also one of these silent supporters of Schaps... Don't worry too much about critism, there will always be, whatever you do, but I'm quite sure you also have lots of supporters out there... I would be quite curious to get the download statistics on the first release day ;)

[rkmoray]

As a contributor to Schapps, and a developer. I not only look forward to the release of TX, but I understand the delays. And would be happy to be a beta tester.

[Kraize]

Sorry for no updates guys! The last e-mail that I got from schaps said that he was sick and had some problems. So if I get an e-mail, I'll let you guys know, at least those who have PM'd me ;)

[founti]

please keep up the work....

sounds damn interesting...and good things need time...take your time, and if there is something to test...send me a message ^^

[vanda123]

Sorry for no updates guys! The last e-mail that I got from schaps said that he was sick and had some problems. So if I get an e-mail, I'll let you guys know, at least those who have PM'd me ;)

Why don't you use TouchXperience forum to tell this?
That is where we all look for som news, (F5 times a day) but it seems almost dead except from some spam.

[slovoflud]

it looked amazing some time ago, now i hope it comes with wm 6.5 & tf3d2 updates, otherwise it's obsolete.

[Kraize]

I'm as much in the dark as you guys right now. His site is down. I'll e-mail him tomorrow and find out why. Maybe he's updating? Who knows?

[fatchopra]

Any news Kraize? Site is still down

[4D3]

all that can be said it unlucky for those who paid to be beta testers!!!

[rl2000]

Well, we didn't pay to be early beta testers, we donated to schaps to so that he has an incentive to keep up his very excellent work!

[Kraize]

Sent by Schaps to private beta testers on Sun March 29, 2009

Hello,

You are receiving this message because you are member of TouchXperience private beta test.

Sorry for my absence, I was away for two weeks because of health problems, and some other personal problems I had to care, so I could not find time to organize the beta test. Then, as you may have noticed, TouchXperience server had serious issues this week, now messaging and forums are working again and I hope we could restore the whole website soon. Finally I decided to change release plans because this project is getting so complex that it takes me a never-ending time to finish it, I am bored to delay indefinitely the release date (and you are certainly too!), so I redesigned TouchXperience to be able to deliver its components separately, in this way I could give you the system components which are done then release new parts as soon as they are ready. With this new approach I could release stuffs to test from next week-end, this is 100% sure but I don’t know yet what will be ready in time, at least you will get something! The first release will not concern the new UI but different applications developed for TouchXperience, so you will not have to flash any ROM. The most interesting things will come a bit later...

I wanted to keep secret all the unrevealed features of TouchXperience to make an amazing surprise at the release, but it has no more sense now, and you were more than patient, so it’s time to tell you a bit more... As you know, the first purpose of TouchMenu was to replace the built-in Programs menu, and as a program manager I thought about the ability to install and uninstall programs as simple as possible. TouchMenu will analyze any CAB file located on your phone and list all the new programs detected in a single menu, so you won’t have to open File Explorer and locate your CAB file, you just have to select the program you want to install in New Programs menu. You can also uninstall programs directly from TouchMenu, which give you detailed information such as installation date or space used by each program. TouchMenu can manage photos, videos, music, ringtones, system sounds and themes, but also podcasts, radios (webradios and FM radios for devices with FM chip) or webTVs. The Connectivity menu includes a wireless manager (to detect and connect to Wi-Fi access points) and other nice features, for example to manage data connections or ActiveSync partnerships, you can also easily detect and manage Bluetooth devices, as well as any device present on the LAN (to access shared folders on your computers, to connect using Remote Desktop or to wake up computers). Note that TouchXperience supports UPnP, so you can access music, photos and videos located on your PC, your media center, your Hi-Fi system, your Xbox, your digital frame, or any compatible device. With the Internet menu you can visit your favorite websites but also explore Opera, IE and YouTube history, you can see your Windows Live services and Live Messenger status, and search the Web using different search engines. The Places menu lets you store different addresses to open their location directly in Google Maps. The Notifications menu appears when you tap the icons on the top bar (connectivity, phone signal, volume, battery...), it works a bit like the notification system in the next HTC TouchFLO but in a smarter way (note that I implemented this feature before seeing it on the new HTC devices, and it gave me a lot of pain because TouchXperience was conflicting with TouchFLO 3.0). The Notification menu will display any important information: New emails, missed calls, next appointments, active tasks, date & time, connectivity, phone, volume and battery status, programs & system notifications... The Clocks menu displays world clocks, you can adjust the current time zone by choosing the city nearest to you, and the Alarms menu lists alarms to simply enable, disable and configure them. There are many little things I didn’t mention, and of course all the other features I already talked about (messaging, appointments, tasks, RSS, weather, documents, active programs, settings, favorites, contacts, profiles, events, Xbox Live gamertags, One Touch Settings, Power Actions, End Actions…). I will try to publish soon new screenshots and high quality videos of the new interface. See you next week-end!



Best regards,

Julien Schapman
TouchXperience

[band27]

Thank you so much for this update. Just glad to hear such a great project wasn't going to go the wrong direction....:)

[owz206]

Great to see this project finally taking off. I cant wait to try out some of these features, great work schaps.

[slovoflud]

I take my words back. This will not be outdated by the time it comes out! :)

[Dynomite232]

all isgood now again and shaps is 100 % with the email i gots today cant wait to try this bad boy

[fatchopra]

i thought we were going to get something this weekend? no new posts on touchxperience forum either :(

[iRiKi]

Well i just hope he's better from his health problems, best of luck for you m8 \o\

[simba2585]

Been following this for ages now and it would appear that this is going to be never ending considering the workload of such a project. Still you could that this might be out of date when it eventually releases but considering the direct wm6.5 is going you never know...

[brainsample]

oops, Schaps did it again ... he makes the same error over and over again.

He made some very usefull things like Advanced Config, but that was no big project compared to what he is planning with TouchExperience. I hope he learns a little about project-management from the errors he made during this project.

I wish him the best, still hoping to see some results some day ...

[Dynomite232]

Subject: TouchXperience beta testHello,You are receiving this message because you are member of TouchXperience private betatest.I said I will release the first standalone components of TouchXperience, so I am going torelease Diagnostic Tool, it will be available soon on the private beta forum. I have some problemsto port it on other devices so it took me longer to prepare, it will be ready in a couple of hours,or a bit later if I am too tired. I will also release during the week some other applications likeFile Editor, Touch Paint, Capture Tool, Profile Manager, Security Manager, SysActions and theCommand Prompt. All those applications will be available as CAB packages and could be installed onany Windows Mobile 6.x Pro device, excepted Command Prompt and SysActions which are not portableyet. Some of them require .NET Compact Framework to be installed. Those applications are providedfor testing purpose only, as a beta tester you should know about the risks and warranty. Be carefulespecially when using Diagnostic Tool on devices other than the ones it was developed on, as itaccess hardware and low level information, I can’t predict how it will behave on unknown devices(but I don’t think it could harm your phone in any case). As usual, I count on you for not leakingany part of my work, it will be made publicly available as soon as it will be considered safe forrelease. Let me know on the private forum if you have any problem or suggestion, I will try to spendsome time everyday on the forum to answer your questions and discuss about the project. As welldon’t hesitate to tell me about the features you are the most interested to test first, I stillhave hundreds of features under development so I have to decide of some priority. And last, I wouldlike to know your preference about the next ROMs, if you would rather to use Windows Mobile 6.5 Betathan Windows Mobile 6.1. I will send you a private message when there will be new stuffs on theforum, for those who are still not registered or don’t have access to the private forum, pleasecontact me that I add you to the beta testers members.Best regards,JulienSchapman

http://julien.schapman.free.fr/touchxperience/images/diagnostic-tool.jpgDiagnostic Tool is an information and diagnostic utility for your Windows Mobile device. It provides hundreds of detailed information about your device hardware and software configuration: CPU, memory, storage, display, input, power, USB, phone, SIM, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, GPS, camera, headset, G-sensor, light sensor, OS, drivers, services, active applications and processes, installed applications, startup programs,... Then you can generate detailed and customized reports. Di

[brainsample]

Subject: TouchXperience beta testHello,You are ...[snip]... so I am going torelease Diagnostic Tool, it will be available soon on the private beta forum. ...[snip]... I will also release during the week some other applications likeFile Editor, Touch Paint, Capture Tool, Profile Manager, Security Manager, SysActions and theCommand Prompt. All those applications will be available as CAB packages and could be installed onany Windows Mobile 6.x Pro device, ...[snip]

These are all standalone applications like Advanced Configuration Tool, they have nothing to do with TouchExperience. So this is the wrong thread.

[energyadj]

These are all standalone applications like Advanced Configuration Tool, they have nothing to do with TouchExperience. So this is the wrong thread.


I think that you don't know to read ... The post you have quoted was posted by a TouchXperience private beta tester that just received some updates from Schaps ...!
Just be patient ...in few days the first things will show up !
Respect for the comunity !

[uniqueboy]

I think Schaps should go commercial with this project, it sounds like ground breaking stuff that people would be willing to pay for, so many ideas and new apps. Why not take on some staff, I think a decent business could be built around this and possibly an even better product could be built by a team working together.

[brainsample]

I think that you don't know to read ... The post you have quoted was posted by a TouchXperience private beta tester that just received some updates from Schaps ...!
Just be patient ...in few days the first things will show up !
Respect for the comunity !

I read the same text as you. In that mail to the beta-testers Schaps says he is going to release standalone applications. As the term standalone clearly states these applications are standalone. So DiagnosticTool or File Editor or Touch Paint is not equal TouchExperience. They may be part of a future release of TouchExperience, but they may be part of any other ROM released in future too, like some cooks integrate Advanced Config in their ROMs.
So posting information about anything else than TouchExperience is offtopic.

I'm too pretty sure and I really hope that the first things will show up in a few days, but post things that are not TouchExperience in their own thread.

[R3PUBL1K]

I read the same text as you. In that mail to the beta-testers Schaps says he is going to release standalone applications. As the term standalone clearly states these applications are standalone. So DiagnosticTool or File Editor or Touch Paint is not equal TouchExperience. They may be part of a future release of TouchExperience, but they may be part of any other ROM released in future too, like some cooks integrate Advanced Config in their ROMs.
So posting information about anything else than TouchExperience is offtopic.

I'm too pretty sure and I really hope that the first things will show up in a few days, but post things that are not TouchExperience in their own thread.

DiagnosticTool or File Editor or Touch Paint are components of touchxperience, and have been released for testing so therefore are in the correct thread.

Subject: TouchXperience beta testHello,You are receiving this message because you are member of TouchXperience private betatest...

When did you get this message? As I did not but have had all the others. Checking junk folder. found it in junk

[cyron_at]

DiagnosticTool or File Editor or Touch Paint are components of touchxperience, and have been released for testing so therefore are in the correct thread.



When did you get this message? As I did not but have had all the others. Checking junk folder. found it in junk
..any news on this?

[m00moo]

dude dont revive this thread and let it die.

updates will be posted and if not then obviously no new news.

[owz206]

Schaps hasn't even posted on the touch xperience forum for over a month.
I was so looking forward to this project,but it looks like it's bit the dust.
I just feel pity for all the people who donated towards it and got nothing.

[plutus]

but is there any specific reason for not posting at least the beta version? ...the more downloads, the more help given by users...

[NeoGreendawg]

This should be called the Duke Nukem Forever ROM :p

[MiQLAS]

This should be called the Duke Nukem Forever ROM :p

... hahaha :):( ...

[dickenz]

but is there any specific reason for not posting at least the beta version? ...the more downloads, the more help given by users...

Specific reason would be the software never reached beta.

There isn't much point posting in here anymore. I'm a former donator and private beta tester of TouchXperience but it seems it's reached it's end of days.
No one has heard from Schaps in well over a month. Sad as I had high hopes for the project.

Maybe it'll pop up one day...

[Dynomite232]

somthin is happenin here http://www.touchxperience.com/:confused:

[slovoflud]

somthin is happenin here http://www.touchxperience.com/:confused:
it's over.

[4D3]

it's over.


I feel for all the people who donated. really, it must be gutting to have trusted a dev enough to give money and then be thrown out to dry!

[uniqueboy]

I donated, never even got a thankyou:( I also posted a similar message here ages ago only for an over zealous mod on a tidy up frenzy to delete the post, fair warning to any donors I thought.

[Confucious]

Do you donate to get thanked?
It is a pity this one seems to have died but most of us have already had so much help from these forums that we should all be grateful.
If I donate it is to say thanks for work already done and hopefully encourage future work but you should never donate with the expectation of getting something back.
Schaps has done a lot for the community in the past and I'm sure there are very good reasons why this has not taken off.
It's a pity there has been no 'official' statement, but, hey, get over it.

Time to move on.

[4D3]

I donated, never even got a thankyou:( I also posted a similar message here ages ago only for an over zealous mod on a tidy up frenzy to delete the post, fair warning to any donors I thought.

Disgraceful!! Complete Betrayal of trust

[m00moo]

Do you donate to get thanked?
It is a pity this one seems to have died but most of us have already had so much help from these forums that we should all be grateful.
If I donate it is to say thanks for work already done and hopefully encourage future work but you should never donate with the expectation of getting something back.
Schaps has done a lot for the community in the past and I'm sure there are very good reasons why this has not taken off.
It's a pity there has been no 'official' statement, but, hey, get over it.

Time to move on.


Dont u get it?

donations are always optional. He donated as a kind gesture in something he truly believed and supported. A simple 'Thanks' is not something that is very difficult to ask for in return for a donation of hard earn cash no matter the amount, and is expected from many occasions.

Asking if he donated to get a thanks is stupid. Its like holding the door open for an old lady/ or disabled guy and saying that you dont even expect a thanks. Its the least thats expected for kind gestures.

As for the thread its long gone. Schnaps hasn't commented on this 'ROM' in a long time and so leave it be. Theres loadsa hard working cooks out there doing great jobs so how about checking those out.

[Confucious]

Dont u get it?

No.

Expecting 'thanks' for a donation is just sad.

Donate because you want to say thanks, not because you want something in return.

[makeveral]

No.

Expecting 'thanks' for a donation is just sad.

Donate because you want to say thanks, not because you want something in return.

you are absolutly right... but i remember schaps saying that his computer was broken... that if he had another device he would add support for it etc...

Some people donated because of that.. because he could improve his work... and he hasnt even said a word.. neither an "i'm sorry but im too busy and the project is closed". I guess people would understand that but if you dont say anything... it looks like a scam.

i guess this thread should be closed until schaps is back... if he's back someday

[Confucious]

you are absolutly right... but i remember schaps saying that his computer was broken... that if he had another device he would add support for it etc...

Some people donated because of that.. because he could improve his work... and he hasnt even said a word.. neither an "i'm sorry but im too busy and the project is closed". I guess people would understand that but if you dont say anything... it looks like a scam.

i guess this thread should be closed until schaps is back... if he's back someday

Like I said, an 'official' explanation would be nice, but for all we know Schaps has been run over by a bus! I certainly hope not, but judging without the facts is not normally a good idea.

[m00moo]

lmao conf...

seriously put some logic to it... let me break it down for u ok...word for word.

Donate because you want to say thanks, not because you want something in return.


UniqueBoy donated to schnaps - but not as a thanks. WTF would he do that? thanks for (lets stay on topic about the ROM. IDK about previous apps etc)? the ROMs not even available to be thanked for. He donated in support, belief of a so called upcomming project that at the moment doesnt exist.

Are you saying if you saved somebodies life, and the person didn't say thanks but insted said to you, 'u saved my life because you want to, not because u want something in return' that it wouldn't piss u off?

Don't say its not the same because its the same principle. This 'SOMETHING in return' is a 'thankyou'. As i said before a 'thankyou' is the most easy thing to say to somebody. It costs NOTHING, and comes from the inside. It should be the least said to somebody that donated anything at all because it shows how much you believe and support in them.



Expecting 'thanks' for a donation is just sad.

Read the above and yes it is sad. Sad that people forgot or fail to be the bit least grateful for all the support they get these days.

[Confucious]

I must say I disagree with everything you said.

If I donate I doi not expect thanks.

If I had the opportunity to save someone's life of course I would do it, why on earth would it matter if they thanked you or not?

[m00moo]

ungrateful people these days. Showing how grateful you are for anything has no price. FULLstop. its part of what we call manners.

thus doing something, anything for a person should deserve a thanks.
thats all there is to it.


for those who forgot what 'thanks/thankyou' means

–verb (used with object)
1. to express gratitude, appreciation, or acknowledgment to: She thanked them for their hospitality

[Bucci]

I think that's totally RIP of fantastic project... I was on focus from August 2008!!! now still nothing :-(

[Confucious]

If someone you help does not say thank you it proves they have no manners.

To only give if you expect thanks proves that you have no manners.

[m00moo]

If someone you help does not say thank you it proves they have no manners.

To only give if you expect thanks proves that you have no manners.

too many ungrateful people in this world who think a 'thanks' is way tooo much.

[Confucious]

There are lots of people who have different views on many things but that's their problem not mine. Why are you so worried about it? For all we know Schaps could be in hospital or otherwise unable to get to a computer. I learned a long time ago that judging other people is best left to others.

[rl2000]

@Confucious: Yet you judge everyone here for holding schaps to his word at least once. I doneated as well and in a lot of ways I don't care as I used his advanced tool many times and never donated to that so it evens out. However, I'm very irritated by all the beta e-mails I've gotten promising a lot but never giving anything. Yes, he might be in the hospital now(or something less severe) but that doesn't change the fact that NOTHING was updated at all. I'm not going to say it's a scam because I honestly don't think it is. I will say that schaps made the error of promising more than he delivered(be it free or not) and continued this by constantly giving new release dates.

And of course one expects a thank you. The thank you is in no way what I paid for but gratefulness for kind actions is decent human behavior and if you can't see that then I don't know what I can say to you to make you understand that. When it comes to manners, decent behavior and empathetic gestures, gratefulness for what you've been given is common ground in all cultures.

That doesn't mean he needs to write me a flower scented letter with smiley faces but a thank you to donaters that believe in him is the least he could do.

But even before he stopped updating etc. he never answered my e-mails or anything, didn't even acknowlegde my contribution enough to answer a simple mail. He did put me on his beta mailinglist though.

Anyway, I hope he's okay, and honestly I hope that he cuts down on his requirements to himself on this project, I think it's too big for one person to do in their sparetime, especially with the added pressure he has for every day the project is late.

The reason I find this rom so amazing is because when/if it comes to fruition it will fundamentally change wm6.1 into something touch friendly, not touch-usable.

[rl2000]

Double post

[Confucious]

@Confucious: Yet you judge everyone here for holding schaps to his word at least once.

Guilty as charged!

[uniqueboy]

OK, so I donated because I can afford to, I like to give to those that I feel deserve it and whatever happens with this Schaps project, he definitely does deserve the donation. At the time this thread was filling up with it's usual moaning and complaing and I just wanted to show a bit of support. I have no regrets of giving but this is the only instance where I was not returned a simple pm of thanks. So I kind of did expect that pm but I don't think I took Schaps for granted, there's me saying he should make this project commertial a few pages back, I think people should be paid for their work.
Anyway I still hope that this comes to fruition and when it does I will donate again, asuming I still have a job and can still afford to and my computer is not broken and I'm not ill in hospital of course.
Peace to all.:)

[Phoenix007]

Look at this post for an explanation of schaps:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2846860&postcount=420

It´s understandable why he left ... :(

[pietrucci]

EDIT: wrong text...

[MiQLAS]

Look at this post for an explanation of schaps:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2846860&postcount=420

It´s understandable why he left ... :(

I do not understand! He promised to set things ... :(

[GGITech]

Yeah, I donated to. No big deal, as I gave up. I do hope it eventually comes out, but the reality is a single person working on this will never work. There just is not enough time in the day. Take Apple and HTC they have teams and teams of people doing the work....and the turn time is still 12 months on average.

If it every comes, I will gladly try it and give any feedback. If it does not, I do still remember how the Schaps Rom was better than the rest.

As for now, I just use the stock ATT with no bloatware from ATT....

I would rather not have to hack on my phone every day to make it work.

[R3PUBL1K]

OK, so I donated because I can afford to, I like to give to those that I feel deserve it and whatever happens with this Schaps project, he definitely does deserve the donation. At the time this thread was filling up with it's usual moaning and complaing and I just wanted to show a bit of support. I have no regrets of giving but this is the only instance where I was not returned a simple pm of thanks. So I kind of did expect that pm but I don't think I took Schaps for granted, there's me saying he should make this project commertial a few pages back, I think people should be paid for their work.
Anyway I still hope that this comes to fruition and when it does I will donate again, asuming I still have a job and can still afford to and my computer is not broken and I'm not ill in hospital of course.
Peace to all.:)

I did not donate to this project but I did for ADV-CONF 2 and 3 and I always got a thanks???? maybe due to issues some time ago with PC he must have overlooked the thanks for you.

Not been on the thread lately nor ever found the link to download a component he suggested in his last communication to me in APR?

Never Mind - Just hope he is better with his health is the most important issue.

[NotSoSmart]

Sounds Great - would lend a hand no probs... :)

[Kraize]

TouchXperience is NOT DEAD!

Sorry for the late answer, unfortunately I’m not so close to release TouchXperience as it is pending since a while, I had some health problems those last months and other personal problems I had to care, honestly I admit I lost any motivation in this project but I can truly say I’m not going to give it up, after all the time and the significant work I spent on it!



For the good news, I developed various applications more “feasible” based on TouchXperience work, I will release the first betas from this week-end, including Diagnostic Tool as I promised, on which I spent several hundreds of hours, and other interesting applications I did not mention yet. At the moment I can’t tell you when TouchXperience will be available, but it will be before Windows Mobile 6.5 launch (official I mean).



To redeem myself for the too long waiting and to show my devotion, I thought about offering donators the application of their choice, I will open a topic on the forum where donator could suggest ideas of applications they would like to have, then I will chose the most interesting ideas (as long as they are not as excessive as TouchXperience!)… Something I should have done long time before, to reassure donators. I will try to publish new information on the website today or tomorrow if I have some time.



Best regards,

Julien Schapman.

There you have it! TouchXperience will be released before the official wm6.5 :P So rest assured. Schaps is back.

[Dynomite232]

nice nice never give up:D

[ND4SPD]

TouchXperience is NOT DEAD!
There you have it! TouchXperience will be released before the official wm6.5 :P So rest assured. Schaps is back.

(on TouchXperience)
...F5...F5...F5...F5 :D

Good news! Great to hear some comm. from Schaps!

[Kraize]

Beta apps released for testers! Sorry i totally lost the list of the guys who PM'd me otherwise I would've sent an email! Check the section! You should be able to see it if you are a beta tester

Teasers here! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/touchxperience/sets)

[Kraize]

If you're not a beta tester, check this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529102) thread

[jor3l]

nice photoshop work loool.. why they all look so fake, have any of those to test? :P

[peter4stra]

I'm working in the IT sector. Flashed my Diamond more than 10 times, but i am still not satisfied. I can offer you a full report of my findings what can/may be wrong/good with your new rom.

[energyadj]

The project was closed ??? No post from Schaps... He can tell us if the development was shuted down !

[donald-c]

The project was closed ??? No post from Schaps... He can tell us if the development was shuted down !
I think it is long dead, there is a post on the website saying a public beta would be released in the coming weeks, that was over a year ago and there has been absolutely no news about it...

[NI-knight]

There's some new stuff in touchxperience site ! Maybe it will still be reality someday?

[4D3]

WOW the new vid for this is freekin SWEET!!

Check it out HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq02FFo-lOI&feature=player_embedded#at=117)

MG

[mauk]

veeeeeery interesteeeeeed.....give me give me...:D..hh.h.hh

[Morpheus90]

Cool, indeed! :eek:

[minuted74]

Cool, indeed! :eek:

quote:eek::eek::eek::eek:

[skypy]

Great =)

And diamond is also supported ? Diamond and ram :s

PS : Tu est d'ou de nancy ? moi Laxou ;)

[14andrewh]

Ha! Excellent, fantastic to see this program still going! I'm in if it will run on a Diamond or Touch Pro2.

[uniqueboy]

"Hello,

I'm sorry that I was not able to release TouchXperience all in good time, I know I promised it since a long time but unfortunately during this year some circumstances of my life that I couldn't anticipate did not let me enough time to finalize this project, which is probably the most ambitious project on Windows Phone.

But I made a promise and I will keep my word, for respect toward all of you who supported me. I kept quiet until now because I did not want to announce another release date without being assured that I could meet the deadline, but today things are getting better and I am pleased to announce that you can expect a first preview of TouchXperience on next month.

There were a lot of changes and improvements since last update, and above all a fresh new graphic engine supporting hardware acceleration, offering very smooth user interface, with cool 3D animations and highly customizable graphics. You can see a demo video of the new graphic engine on http://www.touchxperience.com/, I hope you will enjoy it!

I will publish new videos and screenshots of other TouchXperience features during the following weeks, you can follow my work on http://twitter.com/touchxperience I will try to keep you updated about my work progress. I will also release other softwares (those which were available to private beta testers) on February/March.

Thank you again for your support and patience. I hope you will think the waiting was worth!


Best regards,

Julien Schapman
TouchXperience"



Just when I thought it was all over.......:)

[morcus]

Nice news thanks ;)

[DaveShaw]

Just when I thought it was all over.......:)

I knew there was I reason I didn't close "all" the touch xperience threads ;).

Dave

[Anicane]

Grest i hope we get to know when it will be out, the 3D effects so nice, can't wait til it is finished, or get a date when it will be out. !

[energyadj]

Nice news! I have received the updates from touchxperience and this made me a better day / week :d ! An HD2 update it i$ nece$ary now :d !

[brainsample]

I hope its not only another anouncement this time ...

[Secathor]

Hi Schaps !
I don't know any ROM cooking things but would do my best to search bugs (if they are some) ;)

[tibursio]

'new graphic engine supporting hardware acceleration'

hm, I'm a bit skeptical about that. Lookin forward to it nonetheless, looks like he got himself a HD2, nice.

Hopefully this is the real deal now.

[karlanal]

this is a great news
i hope this works nice on my diamond
and i think you invested too much time not to recieve nothing for your work, IF it works nice on our diamonds


thx
greetings

[blaze2k]

It looks great , whana test it!!!!!!!!!!!

[slipshot]

I'd like to beta test - where do I enroll? been following quite a long time too - awesome work - specially for one individual !!

[uniqueboy]

Schaps sent this email to his mailing list earlier today, I am on it as I donated to his cause a couple of times:



Quote:


Hello,

I wanted to let you know that a new video of TouchXperience user interface is available for those of you who didn't see it yet; I demoed widgets, interactive backgrounds, a lot of new menus and many other stuffs (and I didn't show all...).

The first beta is still planed before the end of this month, but I tell you once again, don't expect a stable version for daily use. This long-awaited preview (we can't even call it a beta version at this stage) is firstly to prove you that TouchXperience is real and functional (yes, there are people who still don't believe it's real...), to help me reporting bugs and compatibility issues, and to get a first feedback about user experience. As you can see on videos, TouchXperience is probably the most advanced user interface for Windows Mobile, a huge work have been already done but I still have a lot to do before the release, I have thousands of issues to solve (and I'm not exaggerating!).

If you don't wish to participate in TouchXperience beta for any reason, please let me know so I will not bother you anymore with emails.

Thank you again for your support, giving me the courage to achieve this project.


Best regards,

Julien Schapman
http://www.touchxperience.com/
http://twitter.com/touchxperience

Unquote

[energyadj]

I looked at the new videos 2 days ago and I got stuck :eek: ! Schaps will destroy and the last hope of micro$oft to release something useful for mobile users :)) (maybe windows mobile 8 =))) ) !
This man is amazing, he developed something much much better than all the teams from micro$oft and google together (if we can say that ;)) ).
{ throughout the period when he has not published anything new about touchxperience, I was thinking that he was already employed by Micro$oft or any other mobile developer ;)), but I am very happy that he still works in the project that for many of us seem unreal}
I'm glad to be in he's beta testers list, and I'm just waiting to receive the test version of the project , to help him to correct and complete this dreamy work! (best project ever)!
Thank you Schaps !

[norgan]

this looks like a titanium/sense killer. you should be either working for MS or for HTC>


Cannot wait for this after trying many roms and not finding anything that can fully satisfy me! :)

[honokage]

Thank you for all your hard work. I am really anxious to try it, keep updating us on the progress and Good Luck. :cool:

[Matsk89]

I'm really stunned, looks so smooth, i wanna have iittt! :o

[ksp3r]

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! this is going to b sooooo awesome!!
Is this only for vga n wvga o diamond specific?

[cdynu]

Magnificent ..................!!

[karlanal]

27th July 2008, 02:17 AM
i dont know
it has been a long time since the first post on this topic
i hope there is something coming but if im realistic i dont really belive it anymore

still
tnx for the effords
greetings

[billy_overheat]

watch the video dude. dont comment b4 u try to know everything.

[karlanal]

im watching this thread for a longer time now
and yes i atched the video
and the previous videos
so

[minuted74]

hello,
when to release the first beta?
look with great interest to try it on my diamond:D:D

[guythomaz]

im watching this thread for a longer time now
and yes i atched the video
and the previous videos
so

It seems everything is starting from the scratch:

"Ohh, am looking forward to try this wonderful UI", "It will be released soon", ...

This thread was started "27th July 2008, 02:17 AM". Now it's "15th February 2010, 10:26 AM"

No more comment...

[karlanal]

As some of you know, I am currently working on a touch user interface (since more than 10 months)
27th July 2008, 02:17 AM

all in all that is two and a half years now, and nothing happened
it is allways beta soon, beta soon

dont get me wrong
im thankfull to each and everyone who is doing anything softwarewise for the diamond, really thankfull

but i dont think this thread will have a happy end

if you take a minute and think about it, we allmost have complete android running on the diamond so it doesnt make much sense to continue working on something like this if you havent be able to make it work for the last 2 years, when it was really needed and would have made a deep impact

but fot those people which are going to booo me now
ill be happy to be proven wrong and i am ready to donate 30 euro to schaps if this rom ever appears

greetings to all

[altec1000]

Touchxperience UI looks amazing. But then I did some research. It never was released. In January they told the beta would released in Feb. Then end of Feb and now March. I don't think so.

[schaps]

Touchxperience UI looks amazing. But then I did some research. It never was released. In January they told the beta would released in Feb. Then end of Feb and now March. I don't think so.
The early beta (which is a closed beta) is for this month, and the public beta is planned for the end of March.
You can find all the information in that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5637865

[altec1000]

The early beta (which is a closed beta) is for this month, and the public beta is planned for the end of March.

Nice of you to reply. But end of March sounds again disappointing. Reminds me of Meizu M8. Heard there are thousand issues, so if it is true a steady release will be far away. (end of year/next year). One person to develop it is just too much. Still good luck

[schaps]

Nice of you to reply. But end of March sounds again disappointing. Reminds me of Meizu M8. Heard there are thousand issues, so if it is true a steady release will be far away. (end of year/next year). One person to develop it is just too much. Still good luck
Of course it will take some time until a final release, but don't worry it comes before the end of the year. The biggest part is done and I work day and night to be able to deliver stable versions for public releases.

[lunasea]

Can't believe you guys, if you feel bored with the waiting why don't you forget the thread and begin a touchxperience by yourself!

You should thank Schaps for sharing his work and for all the contributions he already made.

I've got to admire you persistence Schaps with all this comments... good luck with your work.

Cheers

[uniqueboy]

Of course it will take some time until a final release, but don't worry it comes before the end of the year. The biggest part is done and I work day and night to be able to deliver stable versions for public releases.

Lovely to see you back. :)

[4D3]

It seems everything is starting from the scratch:

"Ohh, am looking forward to try this wonderful UI", "It will be released soon", ...

This thread was started "27th July 2008, 02:17 AM". Now it's "15th February 2010, 10:26 AM"

No more comment...
oh my god, we have more smart people trying to get this thread shut again!! if you really followed this thread you would know that some time ago this thread was battered by people like you with smart arse comments that hold no water.

I bet you cant do anything like this.....so you have no room to comment!

shut up unless it is useful to all and a contribution to the thread! (this was the reason schaps left in the first place)

The early beta (which is a closed beta) is for this month, and the public beta is planned for the end of March.
You can find all the information in that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5637865OMFG!!! schaps is back!!!!! welcome back!Can't believe you guys, if you feel bored with the waiting why don't you forget the thread and begin a touchxperience by yourself!

You should thank Schaps for sharing his work and for all the contributions he already made.

I've got to admire you persistence Schaps with all this comments... good luck with your work.

Cheers+1000!
MGLovely to see you back. :)+1 also

MG

[4D3]

it has been a long time since the first post on this topic
i hope there is something coming but if im realistic i dont really belive it anymore
Delete your subscription to the thread! I mean its not like you contribute to anything anyway! i mean you have never started a thread!

also im loving that visitor message someone left for you!!! my thoughts EXACTLY!!!im watching this thread for a longer time now
and yes i atched the video
and the previous videos
so
and what?

[billy_overheat]

sigh..schaps doesnt need to serve u all and make that rom just to give u a nice lil taste. come on, 2 years for a whole new interface is not long at all. plus, he is doing all the works himself, alone.

guys, give him some times, and just like MG said, if u cannot do the same thing like he does. shut ur mouth pls and wait and lastly, donate to him or at least thank him sincerely for doing this masterpiece of touchXperience.

regards,
billy.

[MiQLAS]

The Touchxperience is a real „Duke Nukem Forever” :D
I think that is no longer developing Schaps Diamond :(

[karlanal]

all in all that is two and a half years now, and nothing happened
it is allways beta soon, beta soon

dont get me wrong
im thankfull to each and everyone who is doing anything softwarewise for the diamond, really thankfull

but i dont think this thread will have a happy end

if you take a minute and think about it, we allmost have complete android running on the diamond so it doesnt make much sense to continue working on something like this if you havent be able to make it work for the last 2 years, when it was really needed and would have made a deep impact

but fot those people which are going to booo me now
ill be happy to be proven wrong and i am ready to donate 30 euro to schaps if this rom ever appears

greetings to all

mystic genious
read again and tell me what did i say wrong
and i do apologize, i didnt know that you have to be a rom developer or a thread starter to post a reply

[schaps]

Thank you again for your encouragements guys! (no comment for others)
I started this thread because I was looking for serious beta testers and I wanted to share ideas about the project. But it went in a totally different way, most of people only beg for getting TouchXperience, argue each other, or complain because I'm still working on it! I don't have to tell you more to understand the reasons why I had to leave XDA-Devs...

I decided to cancel the first version of TouchXperience to bring you the 3D accelerated UI I promised at the begining, don't tell me it wasn't worth! I know I made some communication mistakes and I apologized for that, but I invested a lot of time and money in this project, I had to make huge sacrifices, but many of you don't care or don't realize it. This is a really ambitious project and as far as I know, noone else had the courage to do what I've done, so I expect more respect and consideration for my work.

You can think that my videos are fake or that iPhone is better, I don't care, but please stop polluting this thread with useless comments! This is really unpleasant and demotivating... However that may be, those of you who are still sceptical should be convinced in a few days (...excepted if you think that's a big joke and that I pay my beta testers to spread the rumour...).

[karlanal]

i think you got me wrong
i for my part am really thankfull to anyone doing anything for the diamond
and that includes you
people who says the iphone is better are idiots, so what guys like them say is irellevant
like i said, now that android is allmost fully working on the diamond i doubt it will have the impact that it would have had one year ago

just to show my appreciation for your work ill donate to you

greetings nikola

[schaps]

like i said, now that android is allmost fully working on the diamond i doubt it will have the impact that it would have had one year ago
Maybe but if I had released TouchXperience one year ago it would be exactly the same situation, my UI would look obsolete compared to TouchFLO 3D or SPB Mobile Shell, and with all the time I would have spent to release that first version I could not work on the new version I am going to release today. That's why I decided to restart the project from scratch. With that new generation UI I will be able to bring you all the stuffs you appreciate in Android, and more... So I think it was a good decision for long term development.

[samy.3660]

Maybe but if I had released TouchXperience one year ago it would be exactly the same situation, my UI would look obsolete compared to TouchFLO 3D or SPB Mobile Shell, and with all the time I would have spent to release that first version I could not work on the new version I am going to release today. That's why I decided to restart the project from scratch. With that new generation UI I will be able to bring you all the stuffs you appreciate in Android, and more... So I think it was a good decision for long term development.

Thanks for visisting Diamond forums, i have seen the videos and let me say you have really done a great work.. Waiting Patiently

Thanks

[seventyrocka]

I'm a developer myself. I understand the situation you've been through. Been here for a long time, tested every softwares/patches developed here silently. What you're currently developing, should be called the next windows mobile albeit windows phone 7. And let me say something, the reason I'm still using my diamond although I can always opt to iPhone or Android, is because I'm still waiting for your TouchXperience patiently. Take your time, if it's worth it, I'd be more than happy to buy it. Let me have some time showing off to my iPhone friend, what my phone can do. Thanks.

[xenopod]

I am a total nerd when it comes to stuff like this, and would never ask for payment to test anything, so if you want someone to test it for you, i would be happy to test and report directly to you snapps, I love this idea and followed it for a long time, i dont judge effort because i could not do it myself, i merely respect peoples work.

best wishes and best hopes to you

[Youmoussa]

la dure loi du developpeur. ne jamais faire d'annonces trop tot. Te laisse pas emmerder :o

I'm looking forward to test it. What device do you use for your demo?

[for3v3r]

la dure loi du developpeur. ne jamais faire d'annonces trop tot. Te laisse pas emmerder :o

I'm looking forward to test it. What device do you use for your demo?


i think HTC HD2:D , If you look carefully at the video, you will see when he enter to device settings.

[eliobhelt]

congratulations, I can not imagine the hard work to achieve this work of art. simply great, I have no words, is what he needed to windows mobile that time had passed by apple. You can count on me to test what you need .. greetings from Venezuela

[4D3]

mystic genious
read again and tell me what did i say wrong
and i do apologize, i didnt know that you have to be a rom developer or a thread starter to post a reply
nothing to do with being a dev to post a reply. you are what is know as a troll.

you make NO contribution that is useful to any thread, but you have a big mouth and a lot to say, but you have no technical skill to back you up, essentially what is called a "Gob Shite"

and as for what you said to be wrong:
27th July 2008, 02:17 AM
i dont know
it has been a long time since the first post on this topic
i hope there is something coming but if im realistic i dont really belive it anymore
Well this is nice to know, we are all happy you dont believe, because we "really" care what you think.im watching this thread for a longer time now
and yes i atched the video
and the previous videos
so COCKY! i could understand if you actually had something viable to back up your statements, but you dont, as i said, you make no contribution here.

but i dont think this thread will have a happy end

if you take a minute and think about it, we allmost have complete android running on the diamond so it doesnt make much sense to continue working on something like this if you havent be able to make it work for the last 2 years, when it was really needed and would have made a deep impactyou do alot of thinking dont you? also when you say "we have android" NO WE DONT!

we cannot flash android to a diamond, we must rum WM then launch it.
but fot those people which are going to booo me now
ill be happy to be proven wrong and i am ready to donate 30 euro to schaps if this rom ever appears

greetings to all
Empty promise. this WILL appear and you will do your usual troll behavior of coming in a taking what you want and moaning it doesnt arrive fast enough.

iTHINK you will do no such thing as donate, iTHINK your opinion makes no difference.

[4D3]

This is a really ambitious project and as far as I know, noone else had the courage to do what I've done, so I expect more respect and consideration for my work.

You can think that my videos are fake or that iPhone is better, I don't care, but please stop polluting this thread with useless comments! This is really unpleasant and demotivating... However that may be, those of you who are still sceptical should be convinced in a few days (...excepted if you think that's a big joke and that I pay my beta testers to spread the rumour...).dont explain yourself to idiots! why waste the writs power on typing!

MG

[bevoc]

there are some people here that thinks schaps is obligated to give them stuff for free.
schaps doesnt owe you anything... and if youre using advance config tool, we should know who owes who what.
i haven't seen the people who posted stupid comments here on any other ui website (wad,pointui... bla bla). wanna know why? because those ui are actually paid for...
so i guess schaps should really charge for this piece of eye candy.

its about time for those good-for-thing trolls who had never donated even once in their lives to cough up the cash. but i guess with that kind of stupid attitude, these trolls will only wait for the app to be cracked and download 'em as warez....

end users like these trolls should be banned from xda-dev.

[4D3]

its about time for those good-for-thing trolls who had never donated even once in their lives to cough up the cash. but i guess with that kind of stupid attitude, these trolls will only wait for the app to be cracked and download 'em as warez....

end users like these trolls should be banned from xda-dev.
+1Million!

100% correct

MG

[KevinNash]

I know I made some communication mistakes and I apologized for that

Hi my French and Nancéen buddy ;)

You're right, and that's the only mistake you've done, please don't do it again.

I doubted myself on your project, as your neighbour, shame on me, I sincerely apologize for that, it would never happened without your lack of communication.

If there is some delay to the project, just say it, even if it happens 10 or 100 times, it's your project and hard work, not our.

Your work is absolutely incredible, as you said, you are the only one embarking on a huge project like this. The least we can do is respect your work and yourself.

By the way, congratulations Schaps ( what a video demo ! ) :eek:

[energyadj]

You're right, and that's the only mistake you've done, please don't do it again.
.............
Your work is absolutely incredible, as you said, you are the only one embarking on a huge project like this. The least we can do is respect your work and yourself.

By the way, congratulations Schaps ( what a video demo ! ) :eek:

Agreed with these :P ! And I wish that spammers like the "karlanal" will get banned soon :rolleyes:!

[bevoc]

mystic genious
read again and tell me what did i say wrong
and i do apologize, i didnt know that you have to be a rom developer or a thread starter to post a reply

this asshole is really gonna have to roll the cash out.....:D

[billy_overheat]

hi schaps, any updates here? =)

[DaveShaw]

The threads' here now... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631672

I'll close this one to avoid confusion.

Dave