TV-Out on Diamond? [Archive] - Page 2

ThoughtForm

31st January 2009, 01:00 PM

I should have read this thread before buying the "HTC Touch Pro TV Out Cable (HTC-TVOC-D10)" from Clove :p

Diamond Rom Version: Standard 1.93.405.1 WWE
Cable: Mini USB to Composite
TV out status: Non functional
On cable insertion into Diamond: nothing happens :o

Haven't installed the 2.03.405.2 standard rom update yet though

Noonski

31st January 2009, 03:00 PM

elhamd

31st January 2009, 03:19 PM

i am willing to donate 20 euro for a working tv out

Hi,
I want also donate some money if it works.

G0G0

4th February 2009, 12:59 PM

Hi,
I want also donate some money if it works.

+1
I'm French ;)

-=IRoN=-

4th February 2009, 01:11 PM

+1 i really love to show that feature working ...

GriFolle

5th February 2009, 12:43 AM

obiouvsly:
+1 here in Italy
;)

qtek_metanol

5th February 2009, 08:08 AM

Hi people,
you should be carefully with donations for projects which probably never be fully done or are not viable, i still remember some people around who collected some money to develope improved grafic drivers for the HTC Touch Cruise & Kaiser, and the drivers were a flop.

The HTC diamond has no video-out capability

Metanol

Chatty

5th February 2009, 10:27 AM

I'm not as pessimistic as you are about its capability, qtek_metanol. When ppl@android get TV out working on Raphael we'll see whether it's only a driver issue or a hardware issue.

alphazero

5th February 2009, 10:32 AM

i got the cable out from my friend and i will properly integrate the raphael drivers. if tv-out is possible on diamond we know this evening :D stay tuned

qtek_metanol

5th February 2009, 11:38 AM

I'm not as pessimistic as you are about its capability, qtek_metanol. When ppl@android get TV out working on Raphael we'll see whether it's only a driver issue or a hardware issue.

I'm not pesimist Chatty, i'm just warning the people here, because sometimes many of them are victims of some users who are looking for easy preys just to rip them off

I don't know what you mean with ppl@android but TV-Out is a standard function for the HTC Diamond Pro:

http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro/specification.html

Metanol

Noonski

5th February 2009, 08:21 PM

i got the cable out from my friend and i will properly integrate the raphael drivers. if tv-out is possible on diamond we know this evening :D stay tuned

That's going to save me a weekend of going out and making a jerk out of myself Shocking Girls With Some Nasty truths.

Because i'm getting my Cable tomorrow and it would be nice if this would if possible would work on Diamond to.

So strength tonight with switching around the H2W_ACCESSORY.dll and from both the Pro and HD into the Diamond and getting it to boot. But don't lose your Job over it Staying up way to Late ;).

So no sarcasm here, save my Weekend so i can hunt down a SoulMate with Brains (and hopefully no aversion to Windows Mobile), instead of staying home breaking my head over this.

But if you need testing or help to do some test to make life easier for you, you know where to find me, love to help where i can.

alphazero

5th February 2009, 08:40 PM

That's going to save me a weekend of going out and making a jerk out of myself Shocking Girls With Some Nasty truths.

Because i'm getting my Cable tomorrow and it would be nice if this would if possible would work on Diamond to.

So strength tonight with switching around the H2W_ACCESSORY.dll and from both the Pro and HD into the Diamond and getting it to boot. But don't lose your Job over it Staying up way to Late ;).

So no sarcasm here, save my Weekend so i can hunt down a SoulMate with Brains (and hopefully no aversion to Windows Mobile), instead of staying home breaking my head over this.

But if you need testing or help to do some test to make life easier for you, you know where to find me, love to help where i can.

Thanks mate for your offer. Here is what i have so far:
for people who like testing here is http://diamond.geg0r.de/index.php?dir=Alphazero%2FV3%2F AZTOR V3 has properly integrated drivers even the (customization part does sometimes not run through) its properly integrated. It seems hopeless to continue trying on this to get it work.

The result is even with properly integrated drivers tvout is not working on diamond. I dont think there is anything we can do. THe only driver we have for it does not work. Maybe there are pins cut on the hardware mainboard of the diamond. I only share my experience but feel free to work on it.

Chatty

5th February 2009, 09:47 PM

I'm not pesimist Chatty, i'm just warning the people here, because sometimes many of them are victims of some users who are looking for easy preys just to rip them off
I second that.

I don't know what you mean with ppl@android but
I meant people working on android because when we've got a working linux driver for Raphael we can test it on Diamond. Current Windows Mobile driver might have some code checks whether used on the right platform.

qtek_metanol

6th February 2009, 07:32 AM

I insist that the Diamond Pro owns a chip for the TV-output at the second PCB (keyboard part), I can not believe that HTC deactivate this TV-Out function on the Diamond and Touch HD, which use similar boards and processor platforms that the Diamond Pro (Qualcomm® MSM 7201A™) just for fun, far from it! because with it, they could increase not only the price but also the volume of sales.

riki1

6th February 2009, 02:59 PM

QUALCOMM 7200 chipset :

http://diamond.forumotion.net/forum-f1/topic-t123.htm?highlight=chipset

alphazero

6th February 2009, 04:45 PM

sorry but the diamond uses QUALCOMM(R) 7201A or did i miss something ? :D
whats your point showing us the 7200 specs ?

riki1

6th February 2009, 05:38 PM

Yes, Diamond has 7201A but I have not picture for it. But I think, they are nearly similary.

XavierGr

7th February 2009, 12:59 AM

There is no doubt that TV-out is integrated on the Qualcomm SoC, but there is no proof that HTC didn't just omit to connect it to physical wires.

I am guessing it was a licensing issue. They didn't connect it to save money.

riki1

11th February 2009, 05:19 PM

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=1058624

Chatty

11th February 2009, 07:27 PM

@riki1: What is that other useless thread for? Why did you link it here?

riki1

12th February 2009, 06:34 AM

Is here anybody who know somethings about program which is described in my link ?

It will be very near to software version of TV OUT (PC out).

crucytor

12th February 2009, 10:48 AM

I think he means My MobileR (http://www.mymobiler.com/)

qtek_metanol

12th February 2009, 11:37 AM

you should better stop writting on this theme, there's not TV-OUT

riki1

12th February 2009, 04:23 PM

I think he means My MobileR (http://www.mymobiler.com/)

Thank you very much .

alexanir

20th February 2009, 11:40 AM

you never know....
the hope dies always at he end

okokur

24th February 2009, 07:01 PM

hello,
touch pro and diamond have the same processor.
if somebody can upload a picture with 7201A like some threads above,
i will to check, if there is a difference from unit to mini-usb.

okokur

Sergio PC

24th February 2009, 07:27 PM

hello,
touch pro and diamond have the same processor.
if somebody can upload a picture with 7201A like some threads above,
i will to check, if there is a difference from unit to mini-usb.
okokur
Maybe this will help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413940

Greets.

okokur

26th February 2009, 10:38 PM

thank you for link.

i looked for "block diagram" and find a little bit infos,
but the best think could be helped by infos like
"unit 7201a pin 32 - for tv out .. pin 33 - for color laser printer A3 with endless paper (hahaha)"

but cant find with so much details. so the searching is going on ...

okokur

torrentulla

27th February 2009, 12:05 AM

Even if Diamond WILL have TV out, what good will this bring ?

Can you give me 1 good example of what to do with a 640x480 TV output ?

here is one good example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjnABOFkJZw

Personally I think both devices have hardware difference. If its just a software we could have seen software for this purpose long time ago for devices like tytn II & similar others

MrBasiri

27th February 2009, 05:58 PM

hay My MobileR is pretty good. except it slooooooooowww.... Isn't there any possibility to use there app to create something whit it?

riki1

27th February 2009, 10:07 PM

http://www.semiconductor.com/resources/reports_database/view_device.asp?sinumber=20278

uniqueboy

6th March 2009, 08:56 PM

I don't suppose it will make a blind bit of difference, but has anyone with the appropriate hardware had a look at this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488087) development?

riki1

9th March 2009, 12:08 PM

This development is only the programn which start TVOUT , if you have not original TVOUT cable (this cable start TVOUT automaticaly).

But we, on Diamond , have not TVOUT device, and we need some ".dll" which load this device (TVOUT) into memory and run it.

We tryed some ".dll" from Touch PRO, but it is impossible use in Diamond, because for hardware difference .

mirogster

17th March 2009, 01:41 AM

So You mean : There's NO HOPE???!?!?!?!?:eek::eek::eek:

founti

18th March 2009, 08:49 PM

NOOOOOOOOO

if the TV-Out would work the diamond would be simply AWESOME....

ok its still awesome without it, but with a tv out...damn....

ronenpg

24th April 2009, 03:50 PM

What do you think about this one ?

http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueTVOut.aspx

uniqueboy

24th April 2009, 05:34 PM

What do you think about this one ?

http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueTVOut.aspx

It looks just like the app in the link I posted a bit back, so I guess it can't help us.:)

djfuego

24th April 2009, 05:48 PM

The original Diamond Hardware is not capable of TV output. If it was then we would all be plugging into the TV by now.

Can this thread be locked?

xiho

27th April 2009, 12:57 PM

What is this?????

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.22025

Chatty

27th April 2009, 04:50 PM

Have a look at the reviews... doesn't work.

riki1

11th May 2009, 06:35 AM

What is this?????

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.22025

very interesting, but it is for P3702 (not for P3700) , but I think TVOUT function will not work on Diamond, only charging and Sync.

But you can try it, may by, it will work .....

crajee

10th June 2009, 08:20 PM

Here is the list of functions in OEM_Misc.dll both HD and Diamond:
Also has references to WiMAX!!
Only thing is that they have not enabled the TV out calls (see the end of the list). And without documentation it's difficult to do anything anyway :rolleyes:.
DEX_Close
DEX_Deinit
DEX_IOControl
DEX_Init
DEX_Open
DEX_PowerDown
DEX_PowerUp
DEX_Read
DEX_Seek
DEX_Write
I2C_Close
I2C_Deinit
I2C_IOControl
I2C_Init
I2C_Open
I2C_PowerDown
I2C_PowerUp
I2C_Read
I2C_Seek
I2C_Write
HTC_Close
HTC_Deinit
HTC_IOControl
HTC_Init
HTC_Open
HTC_PowerDown
HTC_PowerUp
HTC_Read
HTC_Seek
HTC_Write
MIS_Close
MIS_Deinit
MIS_IOControl
MIS_Init
MIS_Open
MIS_PowerDown
MIS_PowerUp
MIS_Read
MIS_Seek
MIS_Write
TVO_Close
TVO_Deinit
TVO_IOControl
TVO_Init
TVO_Open
TVO_PowerDown
TVO_PowerUp
TVO_Read
TVO_Seek
TVO_Write

BTW take a look at this; can't make out much - Chinese site (http://read.pudn.com/downloads64/sourcecode/embed/229322/Ch7013/ch7013.c__.htm)

tompjack

24th July 2009, 10:21 AM

Hi all, sorry for the delay.

Finally I build the cab and I hope that it works :)

Only install the cab and if after installation the Diamond doesn´t reboot, you must do a soft reset.

To check if works, go to Control panel and select the "TV Out" icon.
If the icon doesn´t appear in Control Panel you can open the windows folder and look for TVOutSetting.exe

REMEMBER, this software has been delivered without warranty of any kind :D

I´ve decided to remove the software until I find the solution to uninstall it without problems, when I find it, I will upload the new file
hi
i got a cable and i connected it to my HTC Diamond but the audio on 3.5mm and the RCA white and red is comming fine. Still i dont have the video out i try one of the cab from
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28014&d=1238555000
but nothing happened. do u have anything to test now. i mean any other cab files

duall

17th August 2009, 09:37 PM

this thread dead :) ?

and lol :(
I WAS ABOUT to buy this ..

http://smggsm.com/ac-t110-tv-out-cable-for-htc-touch-pro-and-htc-touch-diamond.html

but I saw this thread =/

djfuego

18th August 2009, 08:27 AM

I'm amazed you didn't read the thread first, there by saving the time wasted serching for the cable.
It's a shame you didn't buy the cable then read this thread.

The original Touch Diamond will never support TV out. Although you can run the software.
There is no hardware to output a TV signal.
The cable doesn't magically allow the diamond to output a Video signal in the same way copying my Windows 7 partition to the phone won't magically make it run directly on the phone.

ONLY the Touch Pro (the Diamond with the keyboard) will output to the tv.
Can some-one stop flogging the dead horse and lock this thread.

Chatty

18th August 2009, 11:25 AM

That's not entirely true. Did HTC advertise its TMC feature? No. Does it work? Yes. Got it?

You haven't given any proof what the Diamond misses in terms of hardware. You can only say it doesn't work right now.

duall

19th August 2009, 11:42 PM

as I read the thread it seems that noone proven that it exists, anyways noone proved that it DOES NOT!

btw: how many devs that has cables tried runing it on their own devices?

zero ?

so how can you prove that it does not exist?

juddrl

27th August 2009, 05:02 PM

maybe if someone would say "the wiz doo dad piece of hardware that's in the pro is not included in the diamond hardware" that would end it. But I haven't seen that yet.

Having said that, I agree that one of the developers on here would have figured it out now if it were possible.

Only reason I have a touch pro over the diamond is because of this feature. I don't use the keyboard much but I get "big" (9") navigation and TV in my car with slingplayer.

zooster

28th August 2009, 10:24 PM

Would any gentlman explain me for god's sake where the hell is the difference in the hardware of Diamond and pro? Technically and specifically... maybe some pin not soldered, some track missing.. because I think that the chip is the same, exactly the same.
I think that an hardware difference would be easier to make up, 'cause I would fix it :)

duall

29th September 2009, 11:48 PM

well you dont have to buy an expensive cable for testing..

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496392

Il_Simo

28th October 2009, 04:55 PM

is there any news?

duall

27th December 2009, 02:04 PM

nope prob. something soldered in so you can't use it...

djfuego

27th December 2009, 06:20 PM

duall

28th December 2009, 10:58 PM

marketing..

whistler-nl

29th December 2009, 10:55 PM

HTC made the phones.
It quite clearly states on their site the spec of the diamond.
If it could output to TV then don't you think it would say?

Touch Diamond
http://www.htc.com/uk/specification.aspx?p_id=133

Diamond PRO
http://www.htc.com/uk/specification.aspx?p_id=140

My AMD Phenom II X2 BE says specificly it has 2 core's... I'm running that CPU using all 4 core's (the trick to unlock the other cores did'nt come from AMD for sure)... Not everything is exactly what is printed on the package (or site) so it does'nt rule out the possibility the hardware actually being able to output video.

Just treat this like it aint possible untill proven otherwise.