MDA Vario IV t-mobile "due date" thread.

[compact_bijou]

Update: The Vario IV "is in testing at the moment and won't be available until the end of September"

As yet, "there is no stock or pricing information available to anyone at t-mobile"

Obviously, if anyone else rings up they will probably be told something completely different.

I will keep trying every 7 days.

[StaticPlaya]

I think that they are saying end of September to be on the safe side.

T-Mobile announced the Vario IV before the Touch Pro, they must of been testing it for weeks now I think that it may come out in August. They may release it on the quiet.

How long did it take for the Compact IV to come out after the Diamond?

[compact_bijou]

I think that they are saying end of September to be on the safe side.... they must of been testing it for weeks now

That's the thing about call centres, large companies and the people who pay for it all to exist.

The company never treats the front line staff with enough respect to give them the information they need to do their job efficiently.
See the very recent debacle of t-mobile sending out the Diamond instead of the Vario.

This leads to a huge drop in efficiency and a lack of information which causes some of the first line staff to talk rubbish in a pointless
attempt to gain kudos from having 'inside' information. The only other people to be impressed by this are other first line staff.

That's all I get for paying t-mobile over £800 per year, I guess :(

[jwhitham]

I see htcdirect have also brought their date forward to the 4th of August too.

http://www.htcdirect.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10&products_id=418

I'm thinking this is probably the real date now as several firms that were listing 30th August have now started showing the 4th.

[rhedgehog]

I'm thinking this is probably the real date now as several firms that were listing 30th August have now started showing the 4th.

Nah, it just means they don't have any stock and they are changing their dates to reflect what other companies with no stock are saying so it looks like they have stock.

Devicewire.co.uk is run by the UK's Brightpoint subsidiary. That's why they got the first official UK Diamond stocks, and they show 1st September. I'll go with devicewire every time, knowing that they are run by the main European distributor, thanks muchly. when Device wire shows 4th august, i might believe it.

And no, they don't have them in stock yet.

So where do we reckon Expansys will get their dodgy early grey import stock from this time then??:D:D

[fil]

I'll be in for one as an upgrade, wonder what T-mobile will offer it to me for ????

[licht77]

You should precise T-Mobile to "T-Mobile UK" :-)

[jwhitham]

You should precise T-Mobile to "T-Mobile UK" :-)

Is it officially available on T-Mobile Austria or are you a tester?

[compact_bijou]

You should precise T-Mobile to "T-Mobile UK" :-)

Agreed, I'm unable to edit the title, that's a job for a mod :)

[licht77]

Is it officially available on T-Mobile Austria or are you a tester?

No, officially it will be avaliable for customers on 4th August... i am just a lucky businesscustomer :-)

[bgraham7686]

is it going to be available n the U.S?

[Gundam2k4]

Keep this post to the top

i want to replace my Vario 3 to Vario 4

im getting sick of t mobile sending me handset replacements

[mrvanx]

Keep this post to the top

i want to replace my Vario 3 to Vario 4

im getting sick of t mobile sending me handset replacements

No need to bump this thread.....vario 4 will be out soon.

[StaticPlaya]

I just called T-Mobile about an upgrade asked about the Vario IV. He had no idea what I was talking about he even tried to sell me the compact IV and I had to pay £40 for the handset. Yeah right! The price that I'm looking for when I upgrade is free. lol

[Claire DC]

Devicewire now have their stocking coming in date as the 18th August now.

If you want more information on my dealings with T mobile head office then please visit my blog as i have already put some information on there, plus will be updating it as and when the lady from the directors office gets in touch with me.



http://vario-iv-4.blogspot.com/

[Claire DC]

I just called T-Mobile about an upgrade asked about the Vario IV. He had no idea what I was talking about he even tried to sell me the compact IV and I had to pay £40 for the handset. Yeah right! The price that I'm looking for when I upgrade is free. lol



Yep, the customer service monkeys seem to think you don't know what you're talking about when asking for the Vario IV and tell you about the Compact IV instead.

Durr @ them. ;)

[deejaydave]

Hi Folks,
Just to let you know that the MDA Vario IV is now available.
Just got off the phone to customer service to upgrade - being sent out tomorrow.
Greeeeaaattt!

Dave

[Gundam2k4]

Im on the phone to them now

thanks for the tip m8

[arifhanid]

Just got off the phone with T-Mobile and they confirm that they still don't have the Vario IV :(

Anyone else had any joy?

[jwhitham]

Hi Folks,
Just to let you know that the MDA Vario IV is now available.
Just got off the phone to customer service to upgrade - being sent out tomorrow.
Greeeeaaattt!

Dave
Let us know if you actually get the Vario and not the Compact.

[StaticPlaya]

Hi Folks,
Just to let you know that the MDA Vario IV is now available.
Just got off the phone to customer service to upgrade - being sent out tomorrow.
Greeeeaaattt!

Dave

I bet it is a compact iv! If it isn't I'll be straight on the phone.

[msuk]

Hi,

I am a business T-Mobile users and MDA Vario 4 has not been released. The compact IV was released yesterday according to customer services.

Thanks
Msuk

[EViS]

Compact IV was released a few weeks back...

[StaticPlaya]

I've been checking the T-Mobile website for time and it is not up there. The Touch Pro has just been released so hopefully the T-Mobile version should be out quite soon.

[inspectorgadjet]

Hi Folks,
Just to let you know that the MDA Vario IV is now available.
Just got off the phone to customer service to upgrade - being sent out tomorrow.
Greeeeaaattt!

Dave

I just rang up T-mobile to see if this was true, and the girl I spoke to checked two systems and the coming soon page and couldn't find it at all. I mentioned that I had heard 'a friend' had managed to order one, but she said it didn't seem likely.
So please let us know what you ended up getting.

[benktlottie]

I also spoke to T-mobile today about the Vario 4. The chap seemed to really know what he was on about (upgrades dept) and even knew about this site! :)

Definately not available yet, he said they normally get the phones into his deptartment to play with pre-release and although he'd heard/seen the reviews for the Pro, T-mobile, to his knowledge, havent given it to them to play with yet. They had the Diamond ages ago, and they've also had the Blacberry Bold but no Touch Pro.

I was reading somehwere (cannot find the link) that Vodafone business customer may get the Pro at the end of the month. Somehow I don't think that'll be correct...

[stunno]

I went into the local Tmobile shop today to see how much they have mucked about with the Diamond, to give me an idea how much they will muck around with the Raphael. The salesman came up asking if I wanted to buy one and I explained why I was there. The rest of the conversation went like this

Salesman: No sir, I think you will find that there will not be a version with a keyboard.

Me: I think you will find that there will. Expansys are selling it today.

Salesman: Ha ha, I don't think so, sir! I have always had Varios but I've just got one of these beauties because there will be no more Varios released

Me: Are you sure you work here?

Just then the manager appears and is asked about the Vario by the salesman.

Manager : Oh yes, I understand it will be out next month

Salesman : You bastard! You told me there wasn't going to be another Vario, and that this was the phone to get!!

Manager (sheepishly): er, I only found out on Saturday!

Salesman : But you said . . . . .

I crept out of the shop at this point as the discussion was getting more heated!

[arifhanid]

LOL !! That's hillarious !! LOL

I would have stayed for more...

[sdlopez83]

all these salesman are kept in the dark and with their heads up their arses.

[StaticPlaya]

That was funny! Serves the salesman right for not doing his research and being a jobs worth.

[dom_mitchell1]

Have just recevied this email response from T-Mobile. Why do they persist in assuming that the people that contact them have no idea of what they want and think they can sell you something else?

Thanks for your email Dominic, about the HTC Touch Pro. It's great to hear from you today.
I'm pleased to hear that you're thinking of upgrading your phone. It's always a pleasure to be contacted by one of our customers.
I'm afraid that HTC Touch Pro model isn't available in our range of phones. I'm not able to say if it will be coming into our range of phones in the future.
I can understand if this is disappointing, but I'm pleased to advise that we're constantly expanding our range of phones. I know it's important to get the right phone for you. We've got some great deals on offer at the moment that you might be interested in. You can view all of our current phones by clicking here.

And you can always call us to talk about what's available. We're here every day from 8.30am to 10pm. Call us on 150 from your T-Mobile phone or 0845 412 5000 from a landline (Landline calls are charged at local rates if you're a BT customer, but if you're with another provider it may cost a bit more so do check).

Thanks again for contacting me Dominic, and I'm sure that you'll be able to get a great new phone soon.

If you've any more questions please feel free to reply to this email or contact us again through our website.

Kind regards


Shelly
Customer Services Email Team
T-Mobile

[StaticPlaya]

T-Mobile know that there is demand for this phone they just need to hurry up!

But how long did it take T-Mobile to release the Compact IV after the touch diamond? As this could give us a rough estimate of the phone's eta. But I think it will come out end of August/beginning September.

[b0yce]

Have just recevied this email response from T-Mobile. Why do they persist in assuming that the people that contact them have no idea of what they want and think they can sell you something else?

<snip>


Precisely the reason I went out and bought the HTC own branded phone instead of waiting for my network (Vodafone) to get the a$$es in gear!

I even phoned up Customer Support a few months back when the Diamond had a UK release date and enquired about the phone being available with them, they had not even heard of it - or their list wasn't updated! Got the normal spiel about "other" phones that may be of interest bla bla bla!

Can't they understand I know what I want and they obviously don't! :D

[dom_mitchell1]

I have just sent a reply to them explaining that what they are now doing is precisely why I left O2 after being with them for 12 years (through Genie and Cellnet years). O2 messed up big time over the release of the Tytn so I went to T-Mobile to get my Vario II (cheaper data was also a big lure).

I basically said that Vodafone seem to have the acts in gear so give me one good reason why I should take my custom to a company that can at least tell me that the phone I want is "coming soon".

I wish I had the cash to buy direct from HTC!

[StaticPlaya]

I wished that I could buy the HTC branded phone but it costs to much and with the monthly phone bill is not an option for me. Guess we'll have to wait.

[jwhitham]

I just spoke to a woman at t-mobile UK and she says the Vario IV will probably be late September / early October. She did say that I should be able to get Expansys to ring them with the RRP of the HTC Touch Pro and offer me the HTC branded version as an upgrade :-) shame Expansys's contract phone dept has been unavaialbe for the last hour and a half...

[IBORGUK]

good luck with that.....

[Digger.]

I just spoke to a woman at t-mobile UK and she says the Vario IV will probably be late September / early October. She did say that I should be able to get Expansys to ring them with the RRP of the HTC Touch Pro and offer me the HTC branded version as an upgrade :-) shame Expansys's contract phone dept has been unavaialbe for the last hour and a half...

Had the same problem myself. Couldnt get thru to Contracts, so ordered one anyway. All being well should be with me tomorrow morning.

[StaticPlaya]

I just spoke to a woman at t-mobile UK and she says the Vario IV will probably be late September / early October. She did say that I should be able to get Expansys to ring them with the RRP of the HTC Touch Pro and offer me the HTC branded version as an upgrade :-) shame Expansys's contract phone dept has been unavaialbe for the last hour and a half...

Can you get an upgrade through Expansys? I didn't know that I would perfer getting an htc branded version rather than a t-mobile branded one.

[ferraripassion]

@£114.99 on a T-Mobile 18 month £35pm contract with 700mins 1GB data and i can't remember how many texts. Which seems quite reasonable to me for what it offers.

[reyjabs]

@£114.99 on a T-Mobile 18 month £35pm contract with 700mins 1GB data and i can't remember how many texts. Which seems quite reasonable to me for what it offers.

£114.99 ? or £141.99 :rolleyes:

[StaticPlaya]

That is tempting but I'll wait for the vario IV to comes out and start bartering with T-Mobile and get a better deal. If not I'll just upgrade with Expansys.

[rjrowe]

I just rang expansys, and the guy point blank said they didn't do T-Mobile upgrades.

I thought they had some super-status with t-mob now? would have thought they would have been more keen

[Mr.Korzonek]

I read on https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=649914247781883467&postID=9034710947397462787&pli=1 that Vario IV is now available in T-mobile in this country. So I think this is a sign, that t-mobiles are going to start selling them soon.

[StaticPlaya]

I read on https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=649914247781883467&postID=9034710947397462787&pli=1 that Vario IV is now available in T-mobile in this country. So I think this is a sign, that t-mobiles are going to start selling them soon.

Thanks for that info. It looks like September but the problem is when!

[IceEyz]

Had the Vario IV in my hands today. Definately didn't like it's software style compared to HTC's theme. It also has 256 instead of 288MB of RAM, but HTC's 288 could be 256 + 32 for the graphics.

I kinda liked the backplate though, not very thick, but nice rounded, makes it look thinner. Anyway, I'd take it if it's flashable with stock Roms.

[StaticPlaya]

Had the Vario IV in my hands today. Definately didn't like it's software style compared to HTC's theme. It also has 256 instead of 288MB of RAM, but HTC's 288 could be 256 + 32 for the graphics.

I kinda liked the backplate though, not very thick, but nice rounded, makes it look thinner. Anyway, I'd take it if it's flashable with stock Roms.

What else is different with the T-Mobile version?

[IceEyz]

It's mainly the TF3D that's different. It's the T-Mobile white and Pink. All icons are different, portrait and landscape modes.. The Internet-Tab is replaced with the Web and Walk nonsense, but Opera is still on of course. It also felt a bit slow, but that probably had numerous reasons: Had to be turned on and booted up, the already-applied full-coverage transport screenprotector was still on, which probably caused less response on the touchscreen.. (The lady didn't want me to tear it off, she thought this was the real screenprotector..)..

Come to think of it, should have checked the ROM. Anyway, I hope it's not slow because of T-Mobile's efforts on it..

Ow, and the keyboard has indeed red signs instead of green, which I think is not for the better. Green is what our eyes most easily see..

What turned me off the most, was the price.. It's more expensive than buying the Raphael Non-Branded somewhere else. It will go down though, Christmas is coming up :).

[l3v5y]

Had the Vario IV in my hands today. Definately didn't like it's software style compared to HTC's theme. It also has 256 instead of 288MB of RAM, but HTC's 288 could be 256 + 32 for the graphics.

I kinda liked the backplate though, not very thick, but nice rounded, makes it look thinner. Anyway, I'd take it if it's flashable with stock Roms.That may be because of the ROM version - 32MB of the RAM is from the chipset, hence the odd 288MB of RAM.

It (like everything else) will be flashable usinghard SPL...

[StaticPlaya]

Here is a link to the T-Mobile netherlands page:

Vario IV (http://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk/htdocs/page/shopping/product/productdetails.aspx?vid=ResidentialProductSmartpho neDetails&ProductId=4648)

[Mr.Korzonek]

That may be because of the ROM version - 32MB of the RAM is from the chipset, hence the odd 288MB of RAM.

It (like everything else) will be flashable usinghard SPL...

So I hope T-mobile didn't cut this chipset from device. But is Vario working as it has a chipset? Can someone check this, please :)

[hedgemonstahinz]

I'm tempted to just forget about the vario iv now. I've already got the Ameo 8gb and i might just bite the bullet and go for the 16gb Ameo. I had a play with the touch diamond pro yesterday, and to be honest, i was a little bit "unsure" about it.

There was nothing that blew me away. So its got a flashy home screen and touch capabilities. But nothing that won't eventualy be ported over to the other HTC devices (ok, not including the accelorometers functions)

The Ameo has never failed to draw in a crowd whenever i have pulled it out, to do some remote access to my office pc, or to view youtube, or play my psx emulator..... the list goes on.

In short, if i could of had the Vario iv early july (this is when Tmobile "assured" me it would be released) then i would probably not be picking bones with it, the WOW factor may of drawn me into to a slight fanboy frenzie..... but now ive had time to think.... maybe i want a larger storage on the Ameo.... a phone that (other than its size) has very few faults.

[roblpm]

Anyone got any idea when the Touch Pro will be available on T-Mobile in the UK. My Hermes is on its last legs, battery lasts about half an hour!!

[ice_coffee]

Anyone got any idea when the Touch Pro will be available on T-Mobile in the UK. My Hermes is on its last legs, battery lasts about half an hour!!

Then buy a new battery and stick the hermes on ebay, you will need the money for when this phone comes out !

[squiggs1982]

Anyone got any idea when the Touch Pro will be available on T-Mobile in the UK. My Hermes is on its last legs, battery lasts about half an hour!!

Just spoke to T-Mobile and they say that there still isn't any information available :-(

[hedgemonstahinz]

Should I wait for the vario iv or just get the compact iv? is the only real benefit of the vario the slide out keyboard and the slightly faster processor?

What phone should i go for (or is about to be released by tmob uk)

I do like the look of the N96 and Sony xperia. But ive been waiting so long for the vario iv i keep putting off any enquiries about other handsets.

I realy dont want to bother just getting the compact iv just to regret it 2 weeks later, but on the other hand i am sick of being fobbed of by tmobile staff that dont seem to know about the future handsets.

Every time i have enquired about the vario iv... some undertrained phone monkey in the upgrade department "assures" me that i am on about the compact iv.

I also had a full blown argument with an upgrade guy regarding the ameo 16gb which is still advertised on the upgrade page, but taken off the main paymonthly page. Apparently they have never had an ameo 16gb.

Tmobile need to understand that they are loosing business due to them not offering information regarding new handsets. Surely it is clever business practice to "hook" the customer with snippets of info. instead they blatently miss inform and argue. Maybe i should consider changing carrier??

God dammit! im still no clearer as to what to do! sorry!

[black14987]

The touch Pro has even more RAM than the Compact IV.

Yesterday I`ve called the T-Mobile Diamond Hotline and asked for the release oft the Vario IV. In germany it will start in the week from the 15-19.09.

[se4me]

Hi all, I have also been waiting to upgrade from my Vario III to Vario IV but have been advised that when I upgrade I will loose my free evenings and free weekends, (they will be removing it from everyone as its been heavily used). I have had a contract with T-Mobile since they first started trading as One2One.

Just to advise all those with this benefit to check before upgrading.

I will certainly be changing operator.

Any links for the Raphael on another network with good deals?

Thanks, Chris.

[Pantaloonie]

I asked in my local T-Mo shop yesterday, they told me October.
Retentions are supposed to phone me as soon as it is available.

[vasil]

MDA Vario IV is on UK T-mobile dealer price list, but no ETA yet :(

[se4me]

I asked in my local T-Mo shop yesterday, they told me October.
Retentions are supposed to phone me as soon as it is available.

Do you get free evenings and weekend calls ? if so your going to loose them !

[itsgreen]

Got my Vario 4 this afternoon :)

Any specific questions?

[aqub56]

Do you get free evenings and weekend calls ? if so your going to loose them !


Can I ask why please?

Am also currently waiting for Vario 4 (with retentions to phone me) and have free weekends and evenings...

[fil]

Got my Vario 4 this afternoon :)

Any specific questions?


what country?
what network?
how much?
what tarriff?
new contract or upgrade?
who did you speak to?


oh if not Tmob and uk, no worried about the other 4 Qs?

[Johnston411]

Got my Vario 4 this afternoon :)

Any specific questions?

I'm guessing it wasn't a retail purchase?

What rom is on it?

What accessories does it come with?

[IBORGUK]

Got my Vario 4 this afternoon :)

Any specific questions?

Interesting, it's not listed on the T-Mobile website.

[itsgreen]

what country?
what network?
how much?
what tarriff?
new contract or upgrade?
who did you speak to?


oh if not Tmob and uk, no worried about the other 4 Qs?

Tmobile
Netherlands
1yr 15e/month subscription + text subscription + internet (+180 for the phone)
Renewel
Local shop

ROM 1.69.114.5 NLD
Date 8/2/2008
Radio 1.02.25.19

The unit itself was packaged August 21st

[IBORGUK]

Tmobile
Netherlands
1yr 15e/month subscription + text subscription + internet (+180 for the phone)
Renewel
Local shop

ROM 1.69.114.5 NLD
Date 8/2/2008
Radio 1.02.25.19

The unit itself was packaged August 21st

That explains the lack of t-mobile.co.uk presence then ! How's the software branding , shocking pink ? What's the Touch Flo 3D performance like ?

Thanks

[Johnston411]

Must be on it's way here soon then. :)

[itsgreen]

That explains the lack of t-mobile.co.uk presence then ! How's the software branding , shocking pink ? What's the Touch Flo 3D performance like ?

Thanks

It is a little too pink for my liking, havent found a way to make the touch flo more hetero ;) But will get used to it...

Touch Flo 3D seems pretty fast, no hickups as of yet. It is a bit awkward at first, but once you get the hang of it, it's nice...

Also in general. the 4 way button around the circle is weird, it is on the outside of the circle. But again once you know it is on the outside of the circle instead of the inside of the circle it's nice :)

[IBORGUK]

It is a little too pink for my liking, havent found a way to make the touch flo more hetero ;) But will get used to it...

Touch Flo 3D seems pretty fast, no hickups as of yet. It is a bit awkward at first, but once you get the hang of it, it's nice...

Also in general. the 4 way button around the circle is weird, it is on the outside of the circle. But again once you know it is on the outside of the circle instead of the inside of the circle it's nice :)

I'm sure if you search the threads on here or the diamond area you'll find the debranding info you need. Try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408650 as a starting point. Good luck with your new purchase and I hope it works out for you !

[ice_coffee]

Just to carry on from what se4me was saying,

T-mobile are now pushing their new flext tarrifs which seem good as you get more mins & texts for the same money, however voicemail is no longer included in your free mins, and is chargeable @ 12p per min :( you do not have to downgrade to the new flext if you do not want, but you will have to pay more for your upgrade phone if you decide to keep it,

For example im on flext 35 and can upgrade to a compact 4 now for free if I take the new flext 35 tarrif, but if I want to keep my old flext 35 tarrif I have to pay £40 for the compact 4

[chaps]

T-Mo Uk are still denying knowledge that the Vario IV exists for me. Annoying, as it's upgrade time :-/

[ice_coffee]

just call back and speak to someone else

[se4me]

Just to carry on from what se4me was saying,

T-mobile are now pushing their new flext tarrifs which seem good as you get more mins & texts for the same money, however voicemail is no longer included in your free mins, and is chargeable @ 12p per min :( you do not have to downgrade to the new flext if you do not want, but you will have to pay more for your upgrade phone if you decide to keep it,

For example im on flext 35 and can upgrade to a compact 4 now for free if I take the new flext 35 tarrif, but if I want to keep my old flext 35 tarrif I have to pay £40 for the compact 4

I was told by a couple of CS and from the upgrade department that if I decide to upgrade I will not keep my free evenings and weekends the only way to keep them is not to upgrade or change my price plan at all.

If anyone has been told different post here so I can call them back.

[hedgemonstahinz]

I called tmobile uk upgrades yesterday to enquire "again" about the vario 4. I was told that the vario 4 is the compact 4. The upgrade guy called Max assured me that the compact 4 came with a slide out qwerty keyboard. And that the compact 4 was infact the diamond pro!!!
He told me that there was no stock, but he could process the order now to stop me missing out. I told him that he was WRONG and informed him that there could be a chance that "I actually may have slightly more knowledge than him when it comes to HTC handsets"
Confidently he re-assured me that the compact 4 has a qwerty slide out keyboard! And continued to process the upgrade. I asked that once the phone was recieved and i had the chance to PROVE that he was wrong... and see that infact the phone is no more than a compact 4, could i return the phone and cancel the upgrade. "ofcourse you can sir, just dont open the box!!!"
At this point i asked "do you recieve commission for upgrading me today Max?"
"No!" - very doubtfull.
Any way i have called the upgrade department this morning to complain that i feel i had been mislead and sure enough - they say NO QWERTY KEYBOARD!
If we all seem to know that the vario 4 has an ETA of sept-nov, and that the holdup is most likely down to rebranding.... Why do none of the tmobile staff appear to be aware of this! HONESTY, KNOWLEDGE AND CUSTOMER SERVICE USED TO BE IMPORTANT.

[gingerprince]

SO, this phone is now available as the Vario IV in Holland: -

http://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk/htdocs/page/shopping/product/productdetails.aspx?vid=ResidentialProductPostpaid Details&ProductId=4648

( complete with QWERTY toestenbord - must be some sort of bread cooking addon :P )

So it can't be far away from here, can it?

[kbdirtydjs]

How the hell can Holand have it before Zee Germans??

[stunno]

SO, this phone is now available as the Vario IV in Holland: -

[URL( complete with QWERTY toestenbord - must be some sort of bread cooking addon :P )

So it can't be far away from here, can it?

I think that's something to do with the heat off the battery. and it's been available in Holland for a week now and its not even on the 'Coming Soon' page on the uk one!

[kbdirtydjs]

Just been on the phone to T-Mobile and spoken to a guy that actually knew what he was talking about!!!!

He said that he there was an email that he got with the phones due for release and it sait to expect the Vario IV at the beginning of October.

And he didnt even try and fob me off with the Compact IV, now theres a good CS Rep!

[Mr.Korzonek]

I discovered that T-mobile Germany is going to sell Vario IV. Link to this website: http://www.t-mobile.de/business/allehandys/0,12827,14772-_10093-761-1-0,00.html

[stunno]

Just been on the phone to T-Mobile and spoken to a guy that actually knew what he was talking about!!!!

He said that he there was an email that he got with the phones due for release and it sait to expect the Vario IV at the beginning of October.

And he didnt even try and fob me off with the Compact IV, now theres a good CS Rep!

The guy in the Metro Centre Tmobile shop said the same today. It is on their list but not showing any prices yet

[hedgemonstahinz]

I just got the compact 4 instead. Cant see the point in waiting any longer.

[StaticPlaya]

It is only a few more weeks you should have waited. I don't want to buy a compact IV and then the next time the vario IV is out and I complaining that I did not wait.

[tregba]

patience is a virtue....;)

[hedgemonstahinz]

hhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm. Maybe is should of waited. The compact iv is a sweet little phone. but i do think your all right! i should of waited. On the flipside though, all im missing is the slide out keyboard and a slightly faster processor.... thats why im keeping the ameo. A big, super massive screen with a big, super massive keyboard for when im at work! and the compact 4 for browsing porn while im down the pub with the lads! . The vario 4 still looks the dogs dangleys!

[StaticPlaya]

hhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm. Maybe is should of waited. The compact iv is a sweet little phone. but i do think your all right! i should of waited. On the flipside though, all im missing is the slide out keyboard and a slightly faster processor.... thats why im keeping the ameo. A big, super massive screen with a big, super massive keyboard for when im at work! and the compact 4 for browsing porn while im down the pub with the lads! . The vario 4 still looks the dogs dangleys!


I'm guessing that you would not be using the Ameo for porn as it is at work!

But if the compact iv had bigger memory and and a SD card slot I would have gone for it but it doesn't and you have the best of both with the Ameo and the compact iv.

[ice_coffee]

This is similar to my setup except I just sold my ameo and got an OQO 01+ and im waiting for a raphael, The OQO is soooooo much more competent than an ameo.

[compact_bijou]

I just got the compact 4 instead. Cant see the point in waiting any longer.

Me too. Then I sold it to some desperado and bought a canon 450D with the proceeds :cool:

I have 2 contracts with t-mobile and the other contract is up for renewal in Jan '09 - I'll have my Vario IV then.

[se4me]

any new's on the release date ?

[flourish]

Just two minutes ago I spoke to T-Mobile Upgrade&Renewal Team...

The consultant said that they have been told to expect the MDA Vario IV handset to be available at the end of September or pushing early October 2008.

I have been able to upgrade since June and am still waiting patiently for the Vario 4..another painful couple of weeks then :cool:

Based on past experience and as advised by CS, the quickest way to get hold of one as soon as it is out is to call up T-Mobile as soon as you see it available on the website, or to just keep calling them every few days.

The T-Mobile stores do not receive sellable phones before the upgrades department know about the release. Although they may receive a tester for the in-store employee's to help them learn its features. This was the case when I got the old MDA compact, but that told me that the handset was already available the day before (due to next day delivery from T-Mobile UK to outlets) and surely enough it was and I called them to order one.

Not surprising that Sales guys in the outlets are not clued up. Infact my local T-Mobile store didn't know what i was talking about when i said "Vario 4". They didnt deny its existence they just said they didnt know when it would be out - probably the safest thing to say :rolleyes:

Everyone still itching to get one of these big daddy Vario's? I know I am

[kbdirtydjs]

Yup, calling every couple of days.

Still get occasional monkey that tries to get me to buy a Compact IV, so I give them a lesson in what phone is what and that i'll try them in a few days etc...........

The search goes on!

[Eriol]

Yup, calling every couple of days.

Still get occasional monkey that tries to get me to buy a Compact IV, so I give them a lesson in what phone is what and that i'll try them in a few days etc...........

The search goes on!

October ... so now I really think it might be worth to wait for this: HTC Touch HD (http://www.theunwired.net/?item=unveiled-htc-touch-hd-windows-mobile-professional-smartphone-shows-its-face-update)!

Eriol

[chaps]

October ... so now I really think it might be worth to wait for this: HTC Touch HD (http://www.theunwired.net/?item=unveiled-htc-touch-hd-windows-mobile-professional-smartphone-shows-its-face-update)!

Eriol

Except theres no news that t-mo will cary it yet and if they do it could be several months away.

[Mr.Korzonek]

It is already in Vodafone UK - http://www.vodafonebusinessshop.co.uk/Details-Phone-HTC-Touch-Pro-3037.html

Price: From Free to £340.43

[Mr.Korzonek]

And today they are giving with Monthly cost £29.79, TP for free, and also Bluetooth Headset and Universal Holder. Nice :)

[black14987]

Again i`ve talked to the diamond hotline here in germany. They pushed the release date of the Vario IV to the last week of september or the first week of october. Even the Omnia was pushed to the second week of october.

[md2]

I couldn't wait since my old vario II was faulty so got a compact - amazing phone and I still havent had the balls to tweak anything yet.

I am starting to get used to the lack of a keyboard, I use the "compact Qwerty" keyboard which I think works very well, I can usually just bash away at the keys and it comes out with what I wanted. I've even come to a kind of an understanding with TouchFlo.

The only thing I think it really does need more of is RAM as it starts to chug with many things open.

So who knows I may go for the pro and pass this to the wife who has a very old nokia - it looks good, the best looking HTC so far.

until the HD that is...

[stunno]

And today they are giving with Monthly cost £29.79, TP for free, and also Bluetooth Headset and Universal Holder. Nice :)

YOu need to add vat onto that making it £35/month with 600 mins unlimited texts you can also get £100 back through quidco.

I'm sorely tempted! How much of a 'business' do you have to be to qualify?

[fil]

YOu need to add vat onto that making it £35/month with 600 mins unlimited texts you can also get £100 back through quidco.

I'm sorely tempted! How much of a 'business' do you have to be to qualify?


£100 back via quidco didnt know that! very tempted to ditch t-mobile < tho would go for a 12month contract.

whats the data plans on vodaphone?

[flourish]

ok so I know I said that I was waiting patiently but anticipation has gotten the better of me and I have just ordered a Sandisk Micro SD Ultra 8Gb (SDHC) class 6 card

That'll distract me for a while - i hope

Seen lots of reviews on the tube and have just seen a feature i didnt know about...when you forget to turn the handset on silent or meeting and it rings out loud..you can turn the phone over (face down) and it will silence the ringtone! :cool:

[kbdirtydjs]

I couldn't wait since my old vario II was faulty so got a compact - amazing phone and I still havent had the balls to tweak anything yet.

I am starting to get used to the lack of a keyboard, I use the "compact Qwerty" keyboard which I think works very well, I can usually just bash away at the keys and it comes out with what I wanted. I've even come to a kind of an understanding with TouchFlo.

The only thing I think it really does need more of is RAM as it starts to chug with many things open.

So who knows I may go for the pro and pass this to the wife who has a very old nokia - it looks good, the best looking HTC so far.

until the HD that is...

Flash the latest HTC ROM from the Wiki and it will be fine. Done my gf's O2 Diamond and my Mums Compact IV. Both now well fast! :D

[lawhead]

It is already in Vodafone UK - http://www.vodafonebusinessshop.co.uk/Details-Phone-HTC-Touch-Pro-3037.html

Price: From Free to £340.43

Anyone know just how much of a business you have to be? Do I have to provide proof of anything or use a business account or anything?

My T-Mobile contract (2 lines) expires on 12/11 iirc and I want a Touch Pro :D

[stunno]

Anyone know just how much of a business you have to be? Do I have to provide proof of anything or use a business account or anything?

My T-Mobile contract (2 lines) expires on 12/11 iirc and I want a Touch Pro :D

I went part way through the ordering procedure before asking the same thing last night. There is a drop down menu stating the type of business and it lists "Individual Business User/Sole Trader" and there is also an "Other"

So the answer is maybe not much of a business. After all I work for a business, but they wouldn't buy me one of these, but I might buy one for myself and use it for my business, so it's a business phone. If that makes sense?

My Tmobile contract runs out on 11/11 and they flatly refuse to discuss upgrades with me before 11/10! Gits! But they did say that I would be contacted by them before 11/10, I presume because I can cancel without penalty on that day. If the Pro is out and they make me an offer I cannot refuse, then I'll take it.

But then again, do I really prefer the Diamond? Aaaarghhh I hate decisions

[flourish]

Decisions scales for me were tipped in favour of Vario 4 (touch pro), not only by the Keyboard (Realised how much I do use it on my Vario 3 but the Micro SD slot that the Diamond lacks (mainly because I use my micro SD cards to transfer data aswell as storing media).

When I first got my Vario 3, I had various people comment on the size of it but my justification was that I know I have the option to use the keyboard and the only sacrifice is a little pocket space.

An expansion slot is a must for me, as I know what it's like to run out of space on a device and be helpless to the fact that the only solution is to muck about with creating space by moving data back onto my desktop pc.

Come to think of it, buying an MDA without an expansion slot would be like buying a Netbook without a single usb port (thus removing all easiest ways of expanding storage or connecting a CD writer as an alternative)

no offence to any diamond owners but I vote Stunno should go for the touch pro - don't buy the car without a boot/trunk, whether you use it or not, its nice to know you could if you wanted to ;)

[Wam7]

Well, I been through the usual round of T-Mobile Customer services reps; non-informed, semi-informed and totally deluded. I get the distinct impression they will find out about a week before they're actually available as this was the case with the Omnia, according to one guy.

My contract is up on in 4 days time so that will be perfect timing to me. I am interested to see what they do about the free evenings etc. but this will only really affect the missus when she upgrades.

[flourish]

Just spoke to T-Mobile and got through to a really helpful advisor and his plan was to call me when the handset is available, very genuine and helpful. If he does manage to call me when it is available I will definitely be sending a positive comment for him to T-Mobile

[se4me]

I am interested to see what they do about the free evenings etc.

My contract runs out on the 27th Sept and was eledgable to upgrade a month previous, I have been informed when I upgrade I will loose my free eves and weekends calls and have to upgrade my flext plan to 18 months I've only had 12 month plans before, also have to pay £140 for the Compact IV couldnt get a price on the Vario IV as its not out yet, normally get free handsets. Ive been with T-Mobile since 1993 One2One days, looks like ill be switching providers !

Anyone gets a good deal post here so I can barter :P

[ice_coffee]

at the moment I have this page opening with my browser

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/phones/pay-monthly/t-mobile/mda-vario-iv/overview/

at the moment it is nothing but when the phone is released :)

[se4me]

at the moment I have this page opening with my browser

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/phones/pay-monthly/t-mobile/mda-vario-iv/overview/

at the moment it is nothing but when the phone is released :)

For me just says T-Mobile Ooops, Sorry. We cannot find this page. Please select a different menu option.

[stunno]

My contract runs out on the 27th Sept and was eledgable to upgrade a month previous, I have been informed when I upgrade I will loose my free eves and weekends calls and have to upgrade my flext plan to 18 months I've only had 12 month plans before, also have to pay £140 for the Compact IV couldnt get a price on the Vario IV as its not out yet, normally get free handsets. Ive been with T-Mobile since 1993 One2One days, looks like ill be switching providers !

Anyone gets a good deal post here so I can barter :P

There are loads of places with the Diamond free on Orange (I know, but. . .) with an effective monthly price of around £20 after cashback. My contract is up on 11/11 and if they can't beat that then I'm off!

What contract are you on now se4me? I'm on Flext30 with 25% 'loyalty' discount and got the Compact 3 free on my last renewal and was hoping for something similar this time.

[easyrider0]

Weirrd, in the netherlands this model has allready been avail. since the end of august...thats when i got it.

[ice_coffee]

For me just says T-Mobile Ooops, Sorry. We cannot find this page. Please select a different menu option.

Did you not see the bit where I said " AT THE MOMENT IT IS NOTHING ***BUT*** WHEN THE PHONE IS RELEASED :)

[Black93300ZX]

Did you not see the bit where I said " AT THE MOMENT IT IS NOTHING ***BUT*** WHEN THE PHONE IS RELEASED :)

Apparently he didn't, don't have a heart attack...

[Noonski]

Apparently he didn't, don't have a heart attack...

Oke i have had enough of this.

Yes "I".

Black93300ZX

I don't know who you are or what your problem is.

If you have any idea of the amount of messages i have had rolling into My E-Mail from XDA the last days.

You would understand that the amount of spam that you haver added alone might have drowsed important messages.

You have been warned on other issues and banned on other issues.

But challenging Site administration and moderators by force has a name i will not use.

GoodbyeBlack, you better apologize to administration, you are out for good.

[alanplum]

It is already in Vodafone UK - http://www.vodafonebusinessshop.co.uk/Details-Phone-HTC-Touch-Pro-3037.html

Price: From Free to £340.43

Don't make the same mistake I've just done.

I ordered this on Monday, only to find out today that my number gets PAC'ed tomorrow. No sign of phone or SIM, so I've phoned them up and guess what......

They don't have them in stock!!! So now I'm going to have no phone, no sim and more importantly, no number until it DOES come into stock.

F**K Vodafone. They've mis-sold me a product, put my business in chaos as I no longer have a mobile to use. I'm going for legal action.

[ice_coffee]

That is alot naughty of Voda, you can cancel though, phone T-mob and tell them to block the PAC

[alanplum]

That is alot naughty of Voda, you can cancel though, phone T-mob and tell them to block the PAC

Cheers for that.

I'm currently on the phone to Vodafone now. They reckon they can "delay" the PAC until Friday. They reckon they are getting stock of the Touch Pro in tonight.

[gaz@usgermanlawyers.com]

Does anyone know if and when T-Mo US will bring the MDA Vario IV? Just could renew my contract and get the discounts. If T-Mo does not have the HTC Touch Pro will they have the Xperia?

[pixelwix]

i wanna buy the t-mobile branded vario iv is there anyway to buy it if i'm in the us?

[se4me]

There are loads of places with the Diamond free on Orange (I know, but. . .) with an effective monthly price of around £20 after cashback. My contract is up on 11/11 and if they can't beat that then I'm off!

What contract are you on now se4me? I'm on Flext30 with 25% 'loyalty' discount and got the Compact 3 free on my last renewal and was hoping for something similar this time.

I'm on Flext 35 with the free eves & weekends, I'm planning on the Touch Pro not the Diamond but wanted to get some idea of allowance I'm getting this year on my upgrade !

If T-Mobile want £140 for the Diamond then they will want more for the Vario IV ! :0
Last year I got the Vario III for free.

[StaticPlaya]

This phone is taking a long time to come out and now HTC have shown the touch HD and I do not know if I should wait for the HD or get the vario iv. This is annoying me as I have been able to upgrade since July.

[hedgemonstahinz]

You may of noticed my origional post in this thread where i pointed out that i thought i had made a mistake getting the touch diamond (compact iv) and not waiting for the vario iv.

Im actually realy pleased with the compact now i have had a play with the vario iv. My mate got his vario imported and when we sat in the pub showing off our slightly simular phones almost every one opted for the smaller sleeker and less geeky compact. If you cant cope with a software keyboard at least pop into a local tmob store and try the compacts on screen attemp. it is very responsive and alot easier to use than any other software keyboard i have used in the past. I realy didnt think i could cope without a hardware keyboard, but now im happily texting with one hand!

As for the touch hd, dont worry, most of the apps and features will most likely be ported to the compact or vario phones anyway. dont forget that these 2 phones already have great support worldwide and the apps and roms being developed now look impressive to say the least.

In a nutshell, i thought i had realy shot myself in the foot by jumping the gun and getting the diamond, whereas in fact im chuffed to bits.

[stunno]

You may of noticed my origional post in this thread where i pointed out that i thought i had made a mistake getting the touch diamond (compact iv) and not waiting for the vario iv.

Im actually realy pleased with the compact now i have had a play with the vario iv. My mate got his vario imported and when we sat in the pub showing off our slightly simular phones almost every one opted for the smaller sleeker and less geeky compact. If you cant cope with a software keyboard at least pop into a local tmob store and try the compacts on screen attemp. it is very responsive and alot easier to use than any other software keyboard i have used in the past. I realy didnt think i could cope without a hardware keyboard, but now im happily texting with one hand!

As for the touch hd, dont worry, most of the apps and features will most likely be ported to the compact or vario phones anyway. dont forget that these 2 phones already have great support worldwide and the apps and roms being developed now look impressive to say the least.

In a nutshell, i thought i had realy shot myself in the foot by jumping the gun and getting the diamond, whereas in fact im chuffed to bits.

Are you using a stock ROM or one of the ones on here?

Oh, and how is the battery life?

I still cannot decide which one I want, either!

[chaps]

This phone is taking a long time to come out and now HTC have shown the touch HD and I do not know if I should wait for the HD or get the vario iv. This is annoying me as I have been able to upgrade since July.

Same here. The Touch HD has really opened my eyes. I'm tempted to see what kind of contract deals expansys do with this handset rather than grabbing a Vario IV when it eventually appears on t-mo.

[hedgemonstahinz]

Are you using a stock ROM or one of the ones on here?

Oh, and how is the battery life?

I still cannot decide which one I want, either!

Im using the stock rom at the moment, for the next month or so anyway. Its important to try the stock before you try a cooked rom, otherwise you never know if the new rom is beneficial or not.

Battery is very impressive. Which surprises me. but i am used to the Ameo which chugs along for reletively short periods.

As i said before, you wont be missing out on too much if you choose any of the new htc touch's - from the compact to the HD. They all have benefits and flaws.... but the concept is simular on all of them and i expect they will all have variants of the same software.

I wont say get a compact for the sake of it... but i would say... why wait for ever... if you go for the vario a week later they anounce the HD. If you wait for the HD they will release another soon after and so on.

I dont regret jumping the gun at all

[StaticPlaya]

Same here. The Touch HD has really opened my eyes. I'm tempted to see what kind of contract deals expansys do with this handset rather than grabbing a Vario IV when it eventually appears on t-mo.

The thing is I have waited this long for the vario iv that I am tempted to wait even longer to see the expansys deals for the touch HD and which networks will be selling this phone. Because I think that all of the networks will be on this one as it is a true competitor to the iphone.

[matzie]

Just spoke to T-mo business support - no news yet on Vario 4.

With their exclusive deal on the upcoming G1/Gphone/Dream, I wouldn't be surprised if they *never* released the Raphael - thinking that the two phones are too similar and would just confuse buyers...

[black14987]

Right now T-Mobile Germany has removed the Vario IV from their Website. This morning it was still there.

/edit
I have spoken with the T-Mobile Diamond Hotline and asked them about the status of the device. I could order him, and the T-Mobile IV is in stock right now. I have to wait til next week, cause my contract will expire at the 30th september.

[Mr.Korzonek]

Right now T-Mobile Germany has removed the Vario IV from their Website. This morning it was still there.

/edit
I have spoken with the T-Mobile Diamond Hotline and asked them about the status of the device. I could order him, and the T-Mobile IV is in stock right now. I have to wait til next week, cause my contract will expire at the 30th september.

But is it really Vario IV or once again they are trying to sell Compact IV as Vario IV? And if they will have it on stock, so why they removed it from their website? To many questions... :/

[kbdirtydjs]

Vario IV available from T-Mobile Germany!

http://www.t-mobile.de/shop/handy/0,4855,2963-_10093-0-1-0,00.html

[andyfield]

Come on T-Mobile UK, we need this phone. I had my Vario III nicked and going back to the vario I is just too painful at the moment!

[aqub56]

Called them today - the rep told me that it's not even on their "coming soon" list :(

She suggested I spoke to Carphone Warehouse if it's available on other networks (ie vodafone) but that I'd I have to "negotiate" to keep my off peak and landline calling.

[Variofan]

Come on T-Mobile UK, we need this phone. I had my Vario III nicked and going back to the vario I is just too painful at the moment!
First post for me :)
I spoke to someone at T-Mobile yesterday and another person today.
Yesterday I had a long talk about whether the MDA Vario IV was even going to be released. The person on the phone was more helpful than most - looked through the upcoming list of phones but said it was not there, offered to give me a call when the phone came in.
He also, crucially, said that they had been given the spec sheet for the phone a while back. Something that they get when a phone is about to be released so that they can gen up on things. He acknowledged that there was a lot of interest in the phone and he himself would look to get it too.

So relatively positive there.

Today, after a look on the net and seeing as how the G1 has been announced and people are worrying about T-Mobile not even bothering to release the MDA Vario IV because they have this 'snazzy' new piece of kit (which I think is still really only Vario I in terms of look and feel), I thought I'd call again.
Got a different person but she was helpful too. She put me on hold and spoke to a tech person and came back and said that the Vario IV was not on the upcoming list but the person she had spoken to would definitely have known if the MDA Vario IV was going to get ditched for G1. She's also calling me when the Vario IV is available.
My contract up on 9 October so have been hassling T-Mobile for the last month about this but I think maybe an announcement this Friday or next (fingers crossed).

[StaticPlaya]

I giving up on T-Mobile and the vario iv I am interested in the touch hd. I've started to save up for it.

I undetstand what you mean why would t-mobile release a phone that is better than their G1.

[aqub56]

But, if as above, the Vario IV is available with Tmob Germany, surely it will appear here in due course?

[StaticPlaya]

Well they are taking their sweet time. Like I said before I am losing interest in the phone as it is taking a long time and I am considering buying the touch HD offline and get one of those sim only contracts because T-Mobile are annoying me.

Sorry for my anger but this phone is better then the G1. So why so long and why now it looks like it are you going to delay it even more for the G1.

[aqub56]

Well they are taking their sweet time. Like I said before I am losing interest in the phone as it is taking a long time and I am considering buying the touch HD offline and get one of those sim only contracts because T-Mobile are annoying me.

Sorry for my anger but this phone is better then the G1. So why so long and why now it looks like it are you going to delay it even more for the G1.

I totally agree - the problem I have is that I`m not keen to give up my free off peak calling and free landlines deal so am slightly tied to Tmobile and my current contract...

[Wam7]

I totally agree - the problem I have is that I`m not keen to give up my free off peak calling and free landlines deal so am slightly tied to Tmobile and my current contract...

Yeah, I feel for you guys with the off peak calling etc. Stuck between a rock and a hard place. I actually think the Vario IV will be available in October sometime but don't hold me to that. It's been out in NL for a while now so it's surely just a matter of sitting tight.

While I like the Touch HD, especially the screen size, I just don't want to go with out the tactile feel and speed of a proper keyboard.

[Mr.Korzonek]

Well, Vario IV is already in T-mobile NL and Germany also(since yesterday - private market) . In t-mobile UK they are trying to test it without result. So I have no idea what is really going on in T-mobile Uk :/

[jamiemag]

Hello All, I'm also hanging around waiting for T-Mobile UK to pull their finger out. If it works in other countries why can't they just rubber stamp the approval here. Getting very bored now and leaning towards the Xperia though as it does VGA video recording. Might be persuaded if T-Mobile give me a great deal on the upgrade though, but from what I hear they are really tight on upgrades.

[ice_coffee]

Well, Vario IV is already in T-mobile NL and Germany also(since yesterday - private market) . In t-mobile UK they are trying to test it without result. So I have no idea what is really going on in T-mobile Uk :/

The problem is, by comparison Win mo devices are never as popular in the UK as they are in NL and germany, T-mobile UK always drag their heels when it comes to these devices as they are not a big money spinner, for example the X7510 has just come out on t-mob uk, but it came out on T-mob germany 6 months or more ago, They also try and do stuff like not upgrade their phones from win-mo 5 to win-mo 6 even though T-mob germany already have done it. We are a small niche market and t-mob UK just don't care.

[fxgardes]

Hi all,

FYI I just called these guys, and aimed directly for the "end your contract" operator rather than the "phone upgrade" one . I explained I wanted this phone badly, that I could get it from expansys with a t-mobile uk (!) contract but not as an upgrade directly from them . However when asking how complicated it would be for me to end my current contract and start with a new one from expansys straight away, they told me that THEY WERE EXPECTING THE HTC TOUCH PRO last quarter of 2008 " so something like december" .
I someone could ring up these guys to try to confirm this ...

[aqub56]

That's bad news for me as I`m not really prepared to wait another 3 months :( Guess I`ll loose the off peak calling and go to Vodafone if this turns out to be true....

[andyfield]

I want / need a timescale in the next week or two. My Vario 1 is continually rebooting during phone calls and I can't cope with that. Failing that its Vodafone time and awesome signal strength enjoyment. Do they have good HSDPA coverage like T-Mobile in the south east / London?

[roblpm]

Also posted in other thread,

By the time T-mobile bring this out we will be on to the next generation of phones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any reasons to not go Vodafone, might work all the way along the M8 too??!!

[roblpm]

I'm so weak, just called T-mobile for my PAC code, they reminded me I'm on F&F half price line rental and dropped the other phone on my account by £15 a month so I'm still with them!!

Still no due date. Offered me the Diamond but I need a keyboard, aargh!

[aqub56]

I'm so weak, just called T-mobile for my PAC code, they reminded me I'm on F&F half price line rental and dropped the other phone on my account by £15 a month so I'm still with them!!

Still no due date. Offered me the Diamond but I need a keyboard, aargh!

Is that with no change to your current contract? Thanks.

[roblpm]

Yep, no change to contract. Second phone is due off contract in feb 09 so i said if you change the tarriff does that mean another 18 months. She assured me not. Also I can roll my half price tarriff over with a new phone apparantly. Obviously keen not to lose customers. All ideal apart from reception is pretty poor in scotland! Was thinking of trying vodafone so i can actually talk to people on the thing!

[fxgardes]

Hi there,

anybody got a chance to confirm the december date with t-mobile uk yet ?

Cheers

[andyfield]

When I spoke to them this morning they still had no date in mind. I'll be ordering my touch pro on Vodafone + getting my code to transfer this week.

[SlyTuk]

I was told yesterday to wait till the 15th Oct for the VarioIV.

Basically my Vario3 usb port is f*ked and an assistant said I shouldnt claim on the insurance until the 15th as then I would be given the Vario4, and not the compact.

SlyT

[andyfield]

If USB is knackered then surely you can't even charge it!?!?

[black14987]

Yesterday I have ordered an Vario IV at T-Mobile germany and today it should be shiped.

[mrchris]

You ordered it shipped to the UK? Was this as an upgrade or did you have to pay full price?
Also, was this by calling or on a web page somewhere on t-mobile's site?

[fxgardes]

15th october ? sounds like great news ... fingerscrossed then, thks for the info !

[black14987]

You ordered it shipped to the UK? Was this as an upgrade or did you have to pay full price?
Also, was this by calling or on a web page somewhere on t-mobile's site?

nope. Shipped to my hometown in germany. :-)

[Pantaloonie]

Well I've got sick of waiting, and bought one off contract from Expansys.
Now to speak to T-Mo's retentions dept and see how badly they want to keep me as a customer...

[Claire DC]

Except theres no news that t-mo will cary it yet and if they do it could be several months away.

I've seen information that says they will release it but nothing more.


'G2: HTC Touch HD may be T-Mobile's next Android phone'


http://www.phonedog.com/cell-phone-research/blog/g2-htc-touch-hd-may-be-t-mobile-s-next-android-phone.aspx


Vario IV not out til end of November.. I've been dealing with a lady in the directors office at head office (and blogging it) and it was originally 1st October (today) but has since been put back. I very much doubt that they still have it in testing but more that they want to clear as much stock of the Vario III as possible before releasing it, which could also explain the lack of information being given out both in person and on the website as some people may hold off getting the 3 if they know the 4 is coming soon!?

[dom_mitchell1]

I don't know what to do now; I was going to upgrade to a Vario IV as a simple matter of course from my Vario II. I've got that running TF2D now with the soft keyboard from the Diamond to see how I get on with it not having a hardware keyboard.

I'm not so sure I have such a great need of a hardware keyboard as I thought; you can bash out emails/short word docs quite easily without the hardware. Longer documents are a bit more of a hassel but it's not like I do that very often.

All of which leads to me to think "Sod waiting around for the Vaio IV, just go for the Compact IV". But then the Touch HD/HTC Blackstone gets announced and I'm all of a quandry again. The keyboard will only be better with the larger screen real-estate and the thing looks even more gorgeous than the Diamond.

Do I want to start the waiting around process again for a phone that currently has no carrier information whatsoever?

What do people reckon? Have you been seduced by the Touch HD? Anyone with any inside track on T-Mobile specific details regarding its release? (Sorry if this is taking things slightly OT).

Damn I wish I could afford to buy direct from HTC/Expansys/Clove! Stupid Law School fees!

[Claire DC]

Haha I know what you mean.. I am so confused and almost tempted to just get the Samsung Omnia and have done with the whole damn thing.

I just don't want to be stuck on a contract with a phone I don't like.

Also tempted to go to Vodafone and get HTC Touch Pro on contract over there.. by the way you don't need to get it as a business customer.. but only if you do it over the phone, which means you lose out on quidco but maybe they'd give you some credit on your account or something instead if you asked nicely?

[alanplum]

I see T-Mobile are stocking the Nokia N96 now so it must be an HTC problem why the Vario IV is delayed.

I gave up on Tmo and went to Vodafone and I have to say the switch from my Diamond to the Touch Pro was a good one. I love it.

P.S> I went via Quidco and went through Business. I just put other for business :)

[chaps]

Vario IV not out til end of November..

This is very depressing indeed. I hope it's not true. I'd be tempted to grab an omnia myself, but there are too many negatives - the lack of support from this website being the main one.

I'm also tempted to see what deals Expansys do for the Touch HD on T-Mobile contracts. It's a shame I cannot upgrade through Expansys as I don't fancy signing an 18month contract.

[andyfield]

I see T-Mobile are stocking the Nokia N96 now so it must be an HTC problem why the Vario IV is delayed.

I gave up on Tmo and went to Vodafone and I have to say the switch from my Diamond to the Touch Pro was a good one. I love it.

P.S> I went via Quidco and went through Business. I just put other for business :)

Alan: How do you find it compares? Did you have a vario before, HSDPA speed good in Bristol?

Cheers

[handsomedog]

Just spoke to T-Mobile cancellations dept to request my PAC. Was told the Vario IV is showing as a Q1 handset now, so it's unlikely to be released this year :mad:

To keep me, I got a six month discount on my bill with the ability to cancel or upgrade at any time. Guess I'll see what other phones come out for Xmas...

[alanplum]

Alan: How do you find it compares? Did you have a vario before, HSDPA speed good in Bristol?

Cheers

Best decision I made ever with the phone. I had the Diamond (a.k.a Compact) and I really did enjoy it but the TP is soo much better.

Vodafone in Bristol is OK. Where I work though is right next to a T-Mob mast (I can see it out the window) so HSDPA was excellent. Voda not as good, but it works.

No regrets.

[andyfield]

Best decision I made ever with the phone. I had the Diamond (a.k.a Compact) and I really did enjoy it but the TP is soo much better.

Vodafone in Bristol is OK. Where I work though is right next to a T-Mob mast (I can see it out the window) so HSDPA was excellent. Voda not as good, but it works.


Good stuff. I've just cancelled my T-Mobile contract and starting with Vodafone, hopefully phone should arrive Tuesday or Wednesday. Looking forward to it. Most of the time reception has been ok but there's a few spots at work where I got no signal and I know vodafone is ok.

You had a good result having the mast outside in terms of signal strength! Can't wait to get my new phoone!

[alanplum]

Good stuff. I've just cancelled my T-Mobile contract and starting with Vodafone, hopefully phone should arrive Tuesday or Wednesday. Looking forward to it. Most of the time reception has been ok but there's a few spots at work where I got no signal and I know vodafone is ok.

You had a good result having the mast outside in terms of signal strength! Can't wait to get my new phoone!

First thing you wanna do is Hard-SPL it and get rid of the sh***y VF ROM. It's crap. I use RomeOS 1.12 and it's perfect. Very stable.

[Trader97]

Just spoke to retentions to get my PAC code. The lady I spoke to was really charming, and very honest. She told me that they had in excess of 600 Vario 3 in stock, and were barred from supplying the Vario 4 till they were nearly exhausted. She didnt think this would be this side of Christmas. Annoyingly, she told me they had received stock of Vario 4 and they were showing on her system, but she could not access one to issue it.

Hey ho, off to Vodaphone shop tomorrow to haggle on extras .....:)

[andyfield]

Just spoke to retentions to get my PAC code. The lady I spoke to was really charming, and very honest. She told me that they had in excess of 600 Vario 3 in stock, and were barred from supplying the Vario 4 till they were nearly exhausted. She didnt think this would be this side of Christmas. Annoyingly, she told me they had received stock of Vario 4 and they were showing on her system, but she could not access one to issue it.

Hey ho, off to Vodaphone shop tomorrow to haggle on extras .....:)

Thats the first time I've heard that one, especially in number terms. Truthful but shameful....

Vodafone business tariff signed up via quidco gets you £100 cashback, bluetooth headset + in car cradle.....

Wouldn't suprise me if they were holding off to help promote the G1 Android phone as well.

[chaps]

Just spoke to retentions to get my PAC code. The lady I spoke to was really charming, and very honest. She told me that they had in excess of 600 Vario 3 in stock, and were barred from supplying the Vario 4 till they were nearly exhausted. She didnt think this would be this side of Christmas. Annoyingly, she told me they had received stock of Vario 4 and they were showing on her system, but she could not access one to issue it.

Hey ho, off to Vodaphone shop tomorrow to haggle on extras .....:)

That's outrageous! Very shoddy indeed of t-mo.

Now, do I wait for a Touch-hd from Expansys (on contract), or go to Voda for a TP? I notice though that Vodafones 12month business contracts don't include internet access :(

[fil]

ah crap 600 in stock of vario 3s!!!!!

and they have 4s but wont sell them, bad business, as above just lost one customer, im sure many will follow, T-mobile you jokers sort it out!


On another note, my vario 3 upgrade was 100 quid last year, to upgrade to a vario 3 now they want........150 ?

just rechecked err its now £230.00 for a vario 3

[aqub56]

ah crap 600 in stock of vario 3s!!!!!

and they have 4s but wont sell them, bad business, as above just lost one customer, im sure many will follow, T-mobile you jokers sort it out!


On another note, my vario 3 upgrade was 100 quid last year, to upgrade to a vario 3 now they want........150 ?

just rechecked err its now £230.00 for a vario 3


Mine too - up to £230 on a £42.50/month contract (when Voda have the Touc Pro for free on £35/month). Are they *trying* to lose customers?

[chaps]

Just to confirm what's already been said - I phoned t-mo upgrade dept today to ask about the vario 4. The CS rep told me that she expected the phone to be available at the end of this year at the earliest, but most probably at the beginning of next year.

Looks like i'm going to be taking a trip to my local Vodafone store!

[aqub56]

Just to confirm what's already been said - I phoned t-mo upgrade dept today to ask about the vario 4. The CS rep told me that she expected the phone to be available at the end of this year at the earliest, but most probably at the beginning of next year.

Looks like i'm going to be taking a trip to my local Vodafone store!

I called retentions today and she had no release date scheduled! Gave me £10 off my monthly line rental with no strings attached whilst I decide what to do...

[Pantaloonie]

Looks like I made the right decision to not wait and buy from Expansys.
I had to pay out £482, but my monthly bill from t-Mo has gone from £37 to £15 - and that's for 2 lines, web & walk on one of them.

[andyfield]

Looks like I made the right decision to not wait and buy from Expansys.
I had to pay out £482, but my monthly bill from t-Mo has gone from £37 to £15 - and that's for 2 lines, web & walk on one of them.

Fair play, that is a pretty tasty deal you have there!

[ice_coffee]

Looks like I made the right decision to not wait and buy from Expansys.
I had to pay out £482, but my monthly bill from t-Mo has gone from £37 to £15 - and that's for 2 lines, web & walk on one of them.


amazing I was pressing for that exact deal on my £37.50 per month contract and they would not budge, they said the best they could do was an aditional £5 off if I signed up to another 18 month contract but did not take a new phone, or the £10 off for 6 months but then I would have lost the permanent £5 off I was already getting, I signed in-store with Voda this morning

24mth contract
£30 per month for 750 Xnet mins 250 texts and unlimited data (phone = £ free)

+ I got a free nokia headset worth £30 + a free pay as you go sim

It's almost like t-mob dont want their customers anymore

[StaticPlaya]

I called retentions today and she had no release date scheduled! Gave me £10 off my monthly line rental with no strings attached whilst I decide what to do...


I just called them too got the same deal. Thanks for the heads up! Hope the phone comes out so that I can haggle again. :)

[ice_coffee]

all of you do realise that based on the price of the compact 4 T-mobile are going to be charging a lot more than Voda for this deal, you guys should defo check out what Voda instore will do for you.

[aqub56]

all of you do realise that based on the price of the compact 4 T-mobile are going to be charging a lot more than Voda for this deal, you guys should defo check out what Voda instore will do for you.

:(

I`m totally aware of this - asked how much an omnia would be (in comparison) and on a 12month contract @ 42.50/month they want £70 for an upgrade. Would expect the Touch Pro to be much more...

But 42.50 gets me:

unlimited x-net mobile calls after 7pm every day and all weekend
unlimited land line calls 24/7
600mins or 1200 texts to use at other times
unlimited data

The dilemma is that due to the included off peak calling vodafone's plans work out a little expensive in comparison.

Really torn as to what to do...

[ice_coffee]

hmm that is a good deal, voda have the unlimited off peak landline but not Xnet off peak.

[StaticPlaya]

all of you do realise that based on the price of the compact 4 T-mobile are going to be charging a lot more than Voda for this deal, you guys should defo check out what Voda instore will do for you.

This would give me a chance to compare pricing with the two networks (or more) and help me decide if it is cheaper to buy offline or to switch networks. Or even buy the HD and change my contract to a 30 day one.

I'm no fused at the moment as I do not mind saving £10 each month until I decide what to do and then I will haggle. lol

[ice_coffee]

fair comment, I was unhappy with T-mob, I was already getting a £5 PM off for signing on-line when I took the contract, this £10 off actually would have been another £5 off for me, and after the 6mths was up I would revert to paying the full price (ie I would loose my original £5 discount) besides even after the £10 discount I would still be paying t-mob £2.50 more per month, and t-mob are charging for the phone, where voda are giving it away.

[aqub56]

fair comment, I was unhappy with T-mob, I was already getting a £5 PM off for signing on-line when I took the contract, this £10 off actually would have been another £5 off for me, and after the 6mths was up I would revert to paying the full price (ie I would loose my original £5 discount) besides even after the £10 discount I would still be paying t-mob £2.50 more per month, and t-mob are charging for the phone, where voda are giving it away.

IMO unless you had an excellent tariff AND were a heavy user you've totally got the best deal for yourself - it's an expensive bit of kit and to get it free on a £30 deal which includes data is pretty impressive :)

[ice_coffee]

Im happy :) but I think my TP has a fault, will post it up soon

[pfcsabre]

Wow, I didn't know this device is elusive in UK :)

I just got mine in Netherlands as I *accidentally* broke my Kaiser. 29.50EUR (voice + data) for a years' subscription and I only added 130EUR for it! :)

[ice_coffee]

im jealous ! we always get robbed in this country

[dejul]

Is the diamond pro from Vodaphone unlocked?

[paulrockliffe]

I've just moved from T-Mobile to Vodafone, can't be dealing with upgrade delays because someone ordered too many Kaisers!

[ice_coffee]

Is the diamond pro from Vodaphone unlocked?


nope im using my t-mob sim in my TP until my number ports on wed

[xxtreme]

For all those currently on t-mobile uk and at the end of their contract: T-mobile are doing a 6 month loyalty discount where you get 10 pounds off your price plan for 6 months. This is perfect if you are waiting for the Raphael but want (for some reason) to stick with t-mob. I just had my confirmation text regarding this after i called up CS :)

[chaps]

For all those currently on t-mobile uk and at the end of their contract: T-mobile are doing a 6 month loyalty discount where you get 10 pounds off your price plan for 6 months. This is perfect if you are waiting for the Raphael but want (for some reason) to stick with t-mob. I just had my confirmation text regarding this after i called up CS :)

They gave me this too the other day, but i've decided to switch to Vodafone. The T-mobile lady didn't even attempt to keep me when she found out I was waiting for the Vario IV. I was half hoping she would access some of the reported stock, but it was not to be :-(

All in all, th Voda deal was cheaper than the upgrade on t-mo would have been.

[paulrockliffe]

Its all very well offering good deals to wait, but when you factor in that every month you wait is an extra month you'll still be in contract when you want the upgrade to whatever replaces the Touch Pro its definitely better to get it sooner rather than later.

[xxtreme]

They gave me this too the other day, but i've decided to switch to Vodafone. The T-mobile lady didn't even attempt to keep me when she found out I was waiting for the Vario IV. I was half hoping she would access some of the reported stock, but it was not to be :-(

All in all, th Voda deal was cheaper than the upgrade on t-mo would have been.

Did you go through quidco? they doing the 100pounds money back and could you post details on the price plan you got from vodafone

[ice_coffee]

Did you go through quidco? they doing the 100pounds money back and could you post details on the price plan you got from vodafone


No need the in store deals are better

£30 per month for 700 mins 250 text unlimited data (and possibly unlimited landline but im yet to verify)
Phone free of charge + I got a nice nokia BT headset thrown in

down side is it's a 2 year deal, but they will do the exact same deal @£40 PM if you only want it for 18 months (if you do the sums though you will see that in total the 18mth deal and the 2 year deal cost the same, so it's like getting 6 months tacked onto the end for free)

[xxtreme]

No need the in store deals are better

£30 per month for 700 mins 250 text unlimited data (and possibly unlimited landline but im yet to verify)
Phone free of charge + I got a nice nokia BT headset thrown in

down side is it's a 2 year deal, but they will do the exact same deal @£40 PM if you only want it for 18 months (if you do the sums though you will see that in total the 18mth deal and the 2 year deal cost the same, so it's like getting 6 months tacked onto the end for free)

wow sounds like a good deal. thanks for the info

[chaps]

Did you go through quidco? they doing the 100pounds money back and could you post details on the price plan you got from vodafone

As stated by ice_coffee, I got a better deal by going direct (over the phone for me as my local store doesn't stock the TP). I got a free TP, 500 mins/100 texts and unlimited internet (if you can call 500mb/pm unlimited) for £42.50 on a 12 month contract. Would have been cheaper - the same as other deals posted- if I had gone on a longer contract, but I like to change my phone every year.

The total cost of ownership up to the end of the contract is £510 which I consider ok.

[harjm]

I rang t-mobile to state I wanted my PAC code as I was tired of waiting for the vario iv and was told that the phone is scheduled for release at the end of november. Could others ring CS and get this verified?

[ice_coffee]

I rang t-mobile to state I wanted my PAC code as I was tired of waiting for the vario iv and was told that the phone is scheduled for release at the end of november. Could others ring CS and get this verified?

TBH even if it is, judging by the price of the compact 4, T-mob are not going to give you a good deal on the Vario, as a rule of thumb it is worth around £70~£100 more than the compact, you should phone them up and see what they will offer you with a compact, then decide whether or not it is worth staying.

if you are on flext they will try to push you onto a new version of flext where you get more mins (only useful if you regularly go over your mins) but charge you for voicemail access at all times (no longer inclusive in your mins)

[fil]

i shall be phoning tmobile, and seeing if they can match a deal ive found on the net

12 month contract, £42 month, 500mins, 375texts, w&w, with a n96 for £36 and £40 back via quidco, if they can match that ill have it if not ill port my number to virgin pay as you go, and port it back to the new tmob contrct.


then the n96s are making £400 on ebay so il out it straight away brand new, and either get an offline touch pro via expansys or ebay if there is one local so i can pick it up with a reciept.

long winded but should have a touch pro on tmob and a 12 month contract in under 2 weeks ;)

[chaps]

i shall be phoning tmobile, and seeing if they can match a deal ive found on the net

12 month contract, £42 month, 500mins, 375texts, w&w, with a n96 for £36 and £40 back via quidco, if they can match that ill have it if not ill port my number to virgin pay as you go, and port it back to the new tmob contrct.


then the n96s are making £400 on ebay so il out it straight away brand new, and either get an offline touch pro via expansys or ebay if there is one local so i can pick it up with a reciept.

long winded but should have a touch pro on tmob and a 12 month contract in under 2 weeks ;)

That's if you can get hold of an n96. Whilst i was in a queue on the phone to cancel my t-mo account, the recorded message was stating that they have no n96's in stock and to ring back in a month.

[craigmcdade]

I rang t-mobile to state I wanted my PAC code as I was tired of waiting for the vario iv and was told that the phone is scheduled for release at the end of november. Could others ring CS and get this verified?

I called them last week and asked for my PAC for the same reason, the adviser didn't even try and keep me they just gave me my PAC straight away!

[fil]

yep no N96s

vario 4 jan/feb was dates given.

Just gotta sort a few things and tomorrow ill get my PAC code from them, then by by t-mobile for a few days! ;)

[fards]

No need the in store deals are better

£30 per month for 700 mins 250 text unlimited data (and possibly unlimited landline but im yet to verify)
Phone free of charge + I got a nice nokia BT headset thrown in

down side is it's a 2 year deal, but they will do the exact same deal @£40 PM if you only want it for 18 months (if you do the sums though you will see that in total the 18mth deal and the 2 year deal cost the same, so it's like getting 6 months tacked onto the end for free)

so is that personal or business contract? in the shop or on the phone?

I'm looking at leaving T-mob to goto vodaphone to get the touch pro, the deal you've got is on the web for personal at £35.
Been into my local store and they couldn't do it for less than that. So they say... but they didn't have the phone anyway as it's not a business store.

If I can get the same deal as you i'd be happy with it.

[aqub56]

Well after much to-ing and fro-ing I`ve asked for my PAC from TMob.

I had previously been told that an Omnia upgrade would be £70 but apparently this was an error and it's actually £70+ the RRP of the handset - i.e. they want £370 to upgrade (on a £42.50 contract!).

She thought the that Vario IV was coming out in November but TBH the if the Omnia price is anything to go by the upgrade amount will be astronomical (as opposed to just Tmobile "high") so I`ll join Vod tomorrow.

*sigh* - will have to lose off peak xnet calling but seeing as I've got £370 worth of 'extra' credit to spend shouldn't be a problem!

[hsb98c]

There still isn't a date on the system, but at least I get £10 quid off each month until I decide what to do.

The Vario II I've got appears to be good for a bit longer so I'll hang on and see, but I've always got the option to go to VF as I need to.

Hugh

[handsomedog]

Well, it seems the upgrade prices on T-Mobile will be too steep so I got my PAC. Even with the £10/month reduction, PAYG on Three was still cheaper then T-Mobile. One upgrade to Windows 6.1 later, my Hermes is masquerading as a Kaiser (which is supported by 3) and happily strutting its stuff again :D

Shame there's no Vodafone coverage at my house, as their deals look good :cool:

[aqub56]

Elsewhere on another forum a TMobile manager has stated that they definitely have the Vario IV in stock, they are literally waiting to get rid of the Vario III first. There is also a new policy for upgrades regarding certain types of customer, hence the stupid £75+RRP some of us have been quoted.

If you get a chance, have a look at:

http://www.whatmobile.net/forumvb/showthread.php?t=34922

[craigmcdade]

Elsewhere on another forum a TMobile manager has stated that they definitely have the Vario IV in stock, they are literally waiting to get rid of the Vario III first. There is also a new policy for upgrades regarding certain types of customer, hence the stupid £75+RRP some of us have been quoted.

If you get a chance, have a look at:

http://www.whatmobile.net/forumvb/showthread.php?t=34922

I was told this by a sales man at my local T mob shop. The thing I find strange is that the vario 3 is still listed as £100 upgrade, they're hardly trying hard to shift them!

[hsb98c]

Elsewhere on another forum a TMobile manager has stated that they definitely have the Vario IV in stock, they are literally waiting to get rid of the Vario III first. There is also a new policy for upgrades regarding certain types of customer, hence the stupid £75+RRP some of us have been quoted.

If you get a chance, have a look at:

http://www.whatmobile.net/forumvb/showthread.php?t=34922

I'm thinking of leaving T-Mobile just becuase of the arrogance of the 'senior manager' in this thread.

If he was that important he wouldn't have time to be an idiot on a forum hiding behind a nickname. I'd call him a real name but I should really keep it family friendly...

Anyway, if they are waiting out for III to go, they're in for a longgggggg wait!

[OK!]

The Vario IV is scheduled for December 1st now. It has been for about 6 weeks at least.

[ice_coffee]

so is that personal or business contract? in the shop or on the phone?

I'm looking at leaving T-mob to goto vodaphone to get the touch pro, the deal you've got is on the web for personal at £35.
Been into my local store and they couldn't do it for less than that. So they say... but they didn't have the phone anyway as it's not a business store.

If I can get the same deal as you i'd be happy with it.


I dont know what difference it makes but that is for a business contract, sorry I took a while replying, I only just noticed your question, it is a special offer contract based on them giving away 50% more mins on a 2 year deal, so Afaik it is actually the 500 mins 12 month deal with the 50% addon for being a 2 Year contract.

[kbdirtydjs]

I rang t-mobile to state I wanted my PAC code as I was tired of waiting for the vario iv and was told that the phone is scheduled for release at the end of november. Could others ring CS and get this verified?

I called them today and got my PAC code and am awaiting a delivery of my nice new Touch Pro from Vodafone tomorrow morning.

I was told that the Vario IV had now been pushed back to the new year, that was the final straw for me, combined with getting no signal in my gf's house.

They tried to keep me at T-Mobile by trying to convince me to get the EXCLUSIVE G1 that comes out on the 27th, so I'm guessing what they said to you about the Vario IV coming out at the end of November is also false!

Just a heads up :)

[jsjazz]

I also got fed up with the shambles that is T-mobile at the moment- no definite date for Vario 4, they want to get rid of their Vario 3s first, they wont upgrade some customers etc. so voted with my feet. PAC code, nice new HTC Touch Pro on Vodaphone business contract £45/month 900 min, internet, 12 month contract, £80 off through quidco = £460. And 900 minutes!

[kbdirtydjs]

I also got fed up with the shambles that is T-mobile at the moment- no definite date for Vario 4, they want to get rid of their Vario 3s first, they wont upgrade some customers etc. so voted with my feet. PAC code, nice new HTC Touch Pro on Vodaphone business contract £45/month 900 min, internet, 12 month contract, £80 off through quidco = £460. And 900 minutes!

Thats what I got :) Nice deal that!

Cant wait to get my handset tomorrow :D

[fil]

I also got fed up with the shambles that is T-mobile at the moment- no definite date for Vario 4, they want to get rid of their Vario 3s first, they wont upgrade some customers etc. so voted with my feet. PAC code, nice new HTC Touch Pro on Vodaphone business contract £45/month 900 min, internet, 12 month contract, £80 off through quidco = £460. And 900 minutes!


where????

looking on the vodaphone site can only see 900mins 500texts for 45/month no mention of internet on a 12 month

tho do you mean internet , their unlimited plan (500mb per month)


and the quidco? can only see 90 for vodafone or 100 for vodafone business???

[aqub56]

where????

looking on the vodaphone site can only see 900mins 500texts for 45/month no mention of internet on a 12 month

tho do you mean internet , their unlimited plan (500mb per month)

Was just about to post the same:

The 12 month 900mins/500 deal is £38.30 + vat = £45/month. The internet is another £5/month on top of this AFAIK. And quidco should be £100 off - you should follow the VODAFONE BUSINESS link and not the standard one....

[fil]

Was just about to post the same:

The 12 month 900mins/500 deal is £38.30 + vat = £45/month. The internet is another £5/month on top of this AFAIK. And quidco should be £100 off - you should follow the VODAFONE BUSINESS link and not the standard one....

yep thats what i can see on the vodasite, and via quidco

[imaginarynumber]

There still isn't a date on the system, but at least I get £10 quid off each month until I decide what to do.

The Vario II I've got appears to be good for a bit longer so I'll hang on and see, but I've always got the option to go to VF as I need to.

Hugh


Hi Hugh

I ran tmob on the 20th and was told that I was automatically getting a £5 loyalty disc and an extra £10 just because i rang to enquire when the pro would be available.

I am on flext 35 with w&W pro, out of contract since sept- I rang because I bricked my ameo- ir a prat. I was also told the 30 nov date and then spoke to a tmob techy who said that enterprise phones are normally released at that time anyway???

[fil]

I also got fed up with the shambles that is T-mobile at the moment- no definite date for Vario 4, they want to get rid of their Vario 3s first, they wont upgrade some customers etc. so voted with my feet. PAC code, nice new HTC Touch Pro on Vodaphone business contract £45/month 900 min, internet, 12 month contract, £80 off through quidco = £460. And 900 minutes!

Thats what I got :) Nice deal that!

Cant wait to get my handset tomorrow :D

come on people spill the beans? youve gone quite on me ???

is it 900mins
unlimited net
12 month contract
some cash back via quidco
for 45 a month

if so where / how , i want this deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hsb98c]

Hi Hugh

I ran tmob on the 20th and was told that I was automatically getting a £5 loyalty disc and an extra £10 just because i rang to enquire when the pro would be available.

I am on flext 35 with w&W pro, out of contract since sept- I rang because I bricked my ameo- ir a prat. I was also told the 30 nov date and then spoke to a tmob techy who said that enterprise phones are normally released at that time anyway???

Snap - £5 quid as I took out 18 months (or paid by DD or something) and £10 (no contract, no tie in) until I upgrade or leave. This means it's cheap at the moment and I'll be moving over to Flext when I upgrade as I don't make sull use of the 35 allowance (mostly online stuff rather than calls/texts).

Only time will tell when they get their act together!

[ice_coffee]

wow, people have so lost interest in t-mobile that it has been a week since anyone posted here, well done t-mobile you have succesffully ostracised all of your customers, alot of us are enjoying the benefits of vodaphone

[andyfield]

Yup I'm finding signal quality much better on Vodafone. Hope T-Mobile lose plenty of custom over their decision on this one!

[cedric.collard]

i got my tmobile austria Vario IV last week ...
i am struggling to get BB connect working on it
but it a very cool unit.
much lighter and smaller than the III (which was so far the best HTC for me )

[jsjazz]

come on people spill the beans? youve gone quite on me ???

is it 900mins
unlimited net
12 month contract
some cash back via quidco
for 45 a month

if so where / how , i want this deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, just seen this reply.
I've just looked at the Vodafone business website and that deal no longer seems to be on offer, but that was the deal- 900 mins, unlimited (?500MB) internet, 12 month contract, free phone, £80 back via Quidco, for £45 per month.
They obviously had a lot of hacked off T-mobile cutomers crossing over to them so changed the deal!

[fil]

Sorry, just seen this reply.
I've just looked at the Vodafone business website and that deal no longer seems to be on offer, but that was the deal- 900 mins, unlimited (?500MB) internet, 12 month contract, free phone, £80 back via Quidco, for £45 per month.
They obviously had a lot of hacked off T-mobile cutomers crossing over to them so changed the deal!


no worries, suspected that was the case, no good vodafone deals now!

[Wam7]

Well the news gets worse from T-Mobile... it's no longer having to wait till January for an upgrade. I was just told MARCH 2009 :(

[ice_coffee]

Well the news gets worse from T-Mobile... it's no longer having to wait till January for an upgrade. I was just told MARCH 2009 :(

I am soooooooooooooooooooo glad I didn't wait :)

[craigmcdade]

Well the news gets worse from T-Mobile... it's no longer having to wait till January for an upgrade. I was just told MARCH 2009 :(

Anyone know if/when Tmobile are getting the Xperia?

[SimonTALM]

Wel that's another customer T-Mobile have lost and Vodafone have gained. Have my nice shiny new HTC charging as I type :)

[fil]

Anyone know if/when Tmobile are getting the Xperia?


yep july...................2010 :D probably

[hsb98c]

Bloody stupid T-Mobile. They obviously want people to get the 'exclusive' Google phone.

Nice to know they listen to their customers!

[Howshall]

Just thought I'd add I called T-Mobile UK upgrades today (Wed 5th Nov 08) about Vario IV (Touch Pro) and X1. The upgrade's lady I spoke to said there's still nothing on their system in terms of expected launch date, but they didn't expect many new handset launches now until the new year.

Obviously this ties up with previous posts in this thread, and also posts about X1 and Vario IV on Modaco that T-Mobile are doing G1 launch and then trying to offload old stock including a lot of Vario III's until end of their Q4.

What was interesting is that, without prompting, because they didn't have either of the phones I wanted yet the upgrade's lady gave me a 6 month duration £10pcm discount on my monthly bill (with no additional tie-in as I'm now out of contract) as a 'Loyalty discount' to tied me over and keep me on T-Mobile till they do get the new handsets in.

Thought others not desperate to upgrade might well want to phone up and get a £10 per month discount for the price of a free phonecall (Dial 150 from your mobile then '3' for upgrades). Just remember to appear to genuinely ask and care about Vario IV and/or X1 and hopefully you'll have as easy time as me...and if you do get any different info, please do post it here for others.

[While I don't approve of cross posts I do plan to add this to suitable posts on both X1 and Touch Pro forums as this is a simple thing people can do to save some money pre Xmas]

[mayorofbarnet]

I've been monitoring this thread over the last few months in the hope of seeing a 'heads-up' as to if & when the V IV would be out and to be honet had kind of given up hope. However, i went in-store yesterday and enquired if and when the vario might come out and the Manager reckoned that end of November was looking likely as Vario III is being dis-continued from then. (His info was based on a course he had just been on!?)

I tested his resolve and said I would happily slump for the Samsung Omnia (which I could have walked out with there and then) but he insisted it was worth waiting a few more weeks - He seemed confident

Another false dawn??

[MartyH32]

Hay guys,

My contract was up last month and the lady told me that it was not on there system, they wanted me to pay £80 for the compact 4 (ie diamond) but I chatted to them and they agreed to end my contract and i took out a new one with them via a third party expansys.com, so now I have combi package 700 mins unlimited texts and internet for £35 a month and I had to pay £95 for HTC Touch Pro (ie not tmobile version) not bad I thought! extra £15 and got a 'pro'

[craigmcdade]

Hay guys,

My contract was up last month and the lady told me that it was not on there system, they wanted me to pay £80 for the compact 4 (ie diamond) but I chatted to them and they agreed to end my contract and i took out a new one with them via a third party expansys.com, so now I have combi package 700 mins unlimited texts and internet for £35 a month and I had to pay £95 for HTC Touch Pro (ie not tmobile version) not bad I thought! extra £15 and got a 'pro'

I take it you can't keep your number? Is there away around it ie. transfer to another sim on another network then transfer back?

[marcopolo007uk]

Ok release can't be too far away.... I hope!!!

http://www.t-mobile-accessories.co.uk/A_T-Mobile_Vario4_Prods.html

[ice_coffee]

Ok release can't be too far away.... I hope!!!

http://www.t-mobile-accessories.co.uk/A_T-Mobile_Vario4_Prods.html

Mehhhh who cares I got my TP a month a go for free, on a better minutes deal than what T-mob are offering

[bond007]

I take it you can't keep your number? Is there away around it ie. transfer to another sim on another network then transfer back?


Yes that excatly what i have done today transfered my t-mobile number onto a payg 02 sim than when its done, transfer it back to a new t-mobile contract with a HD.
Should be all done by the weekend

[dom_mitchell1]

I've decided to plump for the Touch HD now. Gave up wating for the Vario IV and knew I'd have to pay stupid money for an upgrade to it anyway.

Just got my PAC code from T-Mobile and have a Touch HD on order through mobiles.co.uk on O2.

While I was getting my PAC code, the guy in retentions asked why I was leaving. I explained about the Vario IV situation and that they'd taken so long, my attention had been won by yet another phone. He told me that the Vario IV would be out 'very soon' and that, in his opinion I should go for the G1 anyway.

£42.50 per month (which is what I was paying to T-Mobile) with 600 any network anytime minutes, unlimted texts and 'unlimtied' internet withh the HD thrown in for free. Oh and a free Jabra 2010 headset. Just got to wait for next week now when stock is apparently due!

[craigmcdade]

I've decided to plump for the Touch HD now. Gave up wating for the Vario IV and knew I'd have to pay stupid money for an upgrade to it anyway.

Just got my PAC code from T-Mobile and have a Touch HD on order through mobiles.co.uk on O2.

While I was getting my PAC code, the guy in retentions asked why I was leaving. I explained about the Vario IV situation and that they'd taken so long, my attention had been won by yet another phone. He told me that the Vario IV would be out 'very soon' and that, in his opinion I should go for the G1 anyway.

£42.50 per month (which is what I was paying to T-Mobile) with 600 any network anytime minutes, unlimted texts and 'unlimtied' internet withh the HD thrown in for free. Oh and a free Jabra 2010 headset. Just got to wait for next week now when stock is apparently due!

T Mob have me by the short and curlies as they BES tariff is £10/month which compared to the rest(£28/month) you cant really argue with! The problem just now is that an MDA V will probably be on the scene before the iV is released! Funny how the normal Customer Service staff deny all knowledge of the phone then when you ask to leave all of a sudden it is coming soon!

I've taken a fancy to the HD now also, hopefully can sort something out with expansys on a T Mob contract that allows me to retain a cheap BES tariff.;)

[andyfield]

Looks like T-Mobile aren't keeping lots of customers happy today...


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/20/t_mobile_failure/

[EssexboyRacer]

Dont know if its old news but the MDA Vario IV is now listed in the phone manuals section of the tmobile.co.uk site...

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/help-and-advice/phone-support/mobile-phone-manuals/

[craigmcdade]

A CS agent in my local T Mob was quite open about the fact that they had loads of Vario 4's but couldn't sell until they got the ok and that wouldn't be until the stock of 3's is down. He suggested the end of January.

I don't really care anymore, might just give up on mobile communications!

[ice_coffee]

We all just moved to voda as they are doing the TP cheaper than T-mob anyway

[itguru2]

A CS agent in my local T Mob was quite open about the fact that they had loads of Vario 4's but couldn't sell until they got the ok and that wouldn't be until the stock of 3's is down. He suggested the end of January.

I don't really care anymore, might just give up on mobile communications!

Well, had various different conversations with t-mob and the latest one is that the stock of 3's are now gone and its listed internally on the coming soon - which usually means 3 weeks or so ... could be less even......
ho hum

[imaginarynumber]

Well, had various different conversations with t-mob and the latest one is that the stock of 3's are now gone and its listed internally on the coming soon - which usually means 3 weeks or so ... could be less even......
ho hum

i hope so.

i bricked my ameo and my pda2k is getting on my tits.

[itguru2]

Another update....

spoke to a different customer services person today who had been away for a couple of weeks so had to go ask someone .... they checked their system and apparently the stock due was middle of November but their answer was that it needed more testing (read: supposed to be released then but we screwed up)
So now not really sure when its gonna finally make the light of day... they seem to think that it was being held off until January... ?

[dogsnob]

Another update....

spoke to a different customer services person today who had been away for a couple of weeks so had to go ask someone .... they checked their system and apparently the stock due was middle of November but their answer was that it needed more testing (read: supposed to be released then but we screwed up)
So now not really sure when its gonna finally make the light of day... they seem to think that it was being held off until January... ?


I ordered mine yesterday, and so did my business partner... They claim we will get them by the end of the week...