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screwdriver631
01-08-2008, 10:51 AM
i was reading this article and it said it wouldnt work..

biscuits1978
01-08-2008, 11:35 PM
Where are you getting 3G for T-mobile in the US? I only heard it was in NYC at the moment.

jdc
02-08-2008, 12:27 AM
Sadly, the answer is most likely not.

T-Mobile is deploying 3G service on the 1700 MHz UMTS band, which the Hermes, and a lot of other phones, can not use.

My confusion is that T-Mobile USA has submitted the Kaiser for approval to the FCC, and the manual that comes with it lists the Kaiser as supporting 1700… in the Japanese version.

So are they using a modified Japanese version, or releasing it as a EDGE-only phone (which would be a mistake IMO), or something else? I sure don’t know, but I’m expecting to have to replace my beloved hermes with something else if I want to make use of the upcoming 3G.

biscuits1978
02-08-2008, 02:24 AM
Sadly, the answer is most likely not.

T-Mobile is deploying 3G service on the 1700 MHz UMTS band, which the Hermes, and a lot of other phones, can not use.

My confusion is that T-Mobile USA has submitted the Kaiser for approval to the FCC, and the manual that comes with it lists the Kaiser as supporting 1700… in the Japanese version.

So are they using a modified Japanese version, or releasing it as a EDGE-only phone (which would be a mistake IMO), or something else? I sure don’t know, but I’m expecting to have to replace my beloved hermes with something else if I want to make use of the upcoming 3G.

After they fully release 3G, I hope that T-Mobile USA ventures into getting the Raphael since they NEED a good flagship of a phone in their lineup. AT&T already has the Kaiser and iPhone (not a fan, but it's a popular phone though)

But I'll be patient. I have 1 more year before I'm eligible for an upgrade, hopefully they'll have something worth it by then...

CaptMorgan
02-08-2008, 04:25 AM
Absolutely not. It wont now and it wont in the future., T-Mo uses 1700 and at&t uses 2100. They will not interchange because neither side wants the others users sucking up they're bandwidth. Do not expect to see 3q dual band handsets that are "intended" for the US anytime soon.

dieKatze88
02-08-2008, 05:27 AM
Absolutely not. It wont now and it wont in the future., T-Mo uses 1700 and at&t uses 2100. They will not interchange because neither side wants the others users sucking up they're bandwidth. Do not expect to see 3q dual band handsets that are "intended" for the US anytime soon.

Well, that's subject to a bunch of things, while AT&T may not want "T-Mobile Customers sucking up their bandwidth", EDGE is pretty fast in comparison to some DSL connections and the vast majority of T-Mobile customers get their service through AT&T towers. So, in a way, T-Mobile customers are already sucking up AT&T's bandwidth. Once quadband UMTS chipsets become common, or T-Mobile decides to abandon its 1700mhz plans, I'm sure that AT&T and T-Mobile will reach a roaming agreement just like they did with GSM/EDGE

galaxys
02-08-2008, 05:43 AM
once quadband UMTS chipsets become common, or T-Mobile decides to abandon its 1700mhz plans, I'm sure that AT&T and T-Mobile will reach a roaming agreement just like they did with GSM/EDGE

Sounds like the best plan for them to come to their senses...This would be our best hope!