We Need A Rom Critic!

[adilkhan1214]

I just can't keep up anymore, there seems to be a bajillion roms and new ones keep getting updated everyday.

why can't we make the rom selection process a little more simple first off with a poll

Which rom are you using?

I would also love for people to rate their roms on a simple scale, this is just an idea
stability: 1-10
Versatility: 1-10
Free Memory: MB
Innovation: 1-10
Worth the upgrade: 1-10

[Zekee]

Swiftblade's ROM is already at v5.0/Lite.

I'm using Swiftblade v5.0 Lite and I vote for it 2 hands up! :D

stability: 9
Versatility: 9
Free Memory: Storage 90MB++, RAM 55MB++
Innovation: 5 (cos its lite therefore not much innovative programs)
Worth the upgrade: 10

[KukurikU]

1. wrong forum! we do not make polls in "diamond ROM development". this is for..........give you 3 guesses......yes, you guessed... ROM development.
2. the forum is full with this kind of useless threads. why useless? because this is a subjective matter. one looks for speed, other looks for memory and another is looking for the graphics. what is good for me can be terrible wrong for you....clear?
3. i searched and find for you (you didn't bother to search) only a few of the threads that tried to determine which is better:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410002
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411620
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411636
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410201
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2461780
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2379362
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
i am glad to inform that some of them are from the trash., where they belong.
4. i know that if this thread is going to continue (hope not) it is going to become a very long and useless one. what you'll get in the end? a "chat" thread and a poll about the most used ROM for diamond....not the best.
5. if you want to know something about ROMs go and search the benchmark thread. this is the right way to determine which one is the best ROM for you.
[hint1]-the post is in the first page
[hint2]-is a sticky
[hint3]-is the third one from the top
[hint4]-is called Diamond Benchmarks, Tutorials & How-Tos Thread
[hint5]-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415194
good luck in making your own oppinion!

now who said i am not helping the noobs??!!!
keep the forum clean ppl!

[walshieau]

someone please kill this thread, another pointless poll.

[adilkhan1214]

I understand your frustrations of noobs taking over your elite site but I still feel this is useful and insightful

all the posts you showed before showed old rom's, now with such a variety out there I wanted to know how the diversity has expanded. Not to show which rom is the best but instead to survey what is out there. If you don't like this thread, just take the poll and ignore it. However when it comes to polls, in the end it's whatever you make of them.

[Garetht]

Another pointless reply from Kukuriku.

adilkhan1214: Forget about Kukuriku, he has this problem with noob's asking questions! He forgets that when he started this kind of thing he would have asked exactly the same sort of questions.

Like the idea, hope other people take the poll as it will help out new comers quite a bit to see what everyone is using.

Keep asking the questions as there are plenty of helpful people on here, but you will come across a minority that think they own this forum and really have nothing helpful to say and will try and slam you at every oppurtunity.

By the way, I am using the SwiftBL WWE Diamond v5.0. Very smooth and stable ROM, really recommend it.

[dutch64]

I understand your frustrations of noobs taking over your elite site but I still feel this is useful and insightful

all the posts you showed before showed old rom's, now with such a variety out there I wanted to know how the diversity has expanded. Not to show which rom is the best but instead to survey what is out there. If you don't like this thread, just take the poll and ignore it. However when it comes to polls, in the end it's whatever you make of them.

The point is, just like what Kukuriku said, it's a subjective matter. There is no best, worse or somewhere in between ROM. It's for a major part all about look and feel, there is nothing more subjective than that. Why don't you try most of the roms? It's nice to do and you will quickly find out which rom will be the one for you:)

[adilkhan1214]

The point is, just like what Kukuriku said, it's a subjective matter. There is no best, worse or somewhere in between ROM. It's for a major part all about look and feel, there is nothing more subjective than that. Why don't you try most of the roms? It's nice to do and you will quickly find out which rom will be the one for you:)

I know it is subjective, and I am not going to argue over what you may think my intentions are.
It is indeed to find out what people are using and why they use it, diversity is there and I'm open to finding out where the majority of people flock to in their rom choice.
It's like me trying to find out how many Native American Indians are in Nevada and then people yelling at me and telling me to find out more about Native Americans first.
They don't add up

I've flashed my phone probably four time in the last month....
my personal subjective opinion: they don't make that big of a difference
but it's irrelevant, currently I'm trying out Dutty's 1.5 and from this poll it seems that one ROM I didn't yet try is one that a lot of people have so now I know where to head next.

[zaphyr]

I support this poll too. It's gives a quick pointer to what roms ppl are using. I find it useful in deciding what rom to try next. right now, I'm on bElite 0.97, but might take a swing at SwiftBL while I'm waiting for bElite 1.0 :)

[adilkhan1214]

WE ALREADY reached 41 people polled,
I can't wait to see what it will look like in two days

[KukurikU]

someone please kill this thread, another pointless poll.
this is what i should said.
instead i took the time to post links to similar threads and tried in my (special) way to help you. and you still are complaining, you don't get it. ok......

[peterlan]

I like the poll. A rom that is popular and have many votes is probably not bad.
When had a Trinity I used to check the poll to see which rom most people used, and flash that.

[vr6only]

To be honest. At the moment i don't see the advantage of using one the custom ROMS.

The new 1.93.xx official ROM works great for me.
I do appreciate all the work the developers are putting in their ROM, and i respect them for that! It's always nice to have options :D

So, i voted "official ROM"

[lmbranco]

1. wrong forum! we do not make polls in "diamond ROM development". this is for..........give you 3 guesses......yes, you guessed... ROM development.
2. the forum is full with this kind of useless threads. why useless? because this is a subjective matter. one looks for speed, other looks for memory and another is looking for the graphics. what is good for me can be terrible wrong for you....clear?
3. i searched and find for you (you didn't bother to search) only a few of the threads that tried to determine which is better:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410002
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411620
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411636
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410201
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2461780
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2379362
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
i am glad to inform that some of them are from the trash., where they belong.
4. i know that if this thread is going to continue (hope not) it is going to become a very long and useless one. what you'll get in the end? a "chat" thread and a poll about the most used ROM for diamond....not the best.
5. if you want to know something about ROMs go and search the benchmark thread. this is the right way to determine which one is the best ROM for you.
[hint1]-the post is in the first page
[hint2]-is a sticky
[hint3]-is the third one from the top
[hint4]-is called Diamond Benchmarks, Tutorials & How-Tos Thread
[hint5]-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415194
good luck in making your own oppinion!

now who said i am not helping the noobs??!!!
keep the forum clean ppl!

Loved your post! Right on!!!

Search, Search, Search!
Ah, wait. One last question. Which one is better?
I am too lazy to go through all the comments in the Rom, so i will just create a "Which one is better" thread :D

[liamhere]

someone please kill this thread, another pointless poll.

here here! :mad:

[Pharaohnough]

You need a ROM critic?
Really?
You don't seriously say you need a ROM critic.

If you take the time and bother to search and to go through each custom ROM's thread, you'll find that the first couple of posts are introducing the ROM and the other hundreds of posts are... guess what... wait for it... FEEDBACK on the ROM after people have TRIED it. YES, you are advised to try the ROM and formulate your own opinion instead of posting useless threads that have been posted before. We all look for different things and it's downright impossible for anyone to tell you what the "best" ROM is. Someone might vote for ROM X because it's fast, another one might vote for ROM X because it's got lots of free space and a third person might vote for ROM X because it's in a certain language. THen you go, download ROM X because "everyone says it's good" but you hate it because you need a ROM that doesn't have a certain app you need. See my point?

[zaphyr]

You need a ROM critic?
Really?
You don't seriously say you need a ROM critic.

If you take the time and bother to search and to go through each custom ROM's thread, you'll find that the first couple of posts are introducing the ROM and the other hundreds of posts are... guess what... wait for it... FEEDBACK on the ROM after people have TRIED it. YES, you are advised to try the ROM and formulate your own opinion instead of posting useless threads that have been posted before. We all look for different things and it's downright impossible for anyone to tell you what the "best" ROM is. Someone might vote for ROM X because it's fast, another one might vote for ROM X because it's got lots of free space and a third person might vote for ROM X because it's in a certain language. THen you go, download ROM X because "everyone says it's good" but you hate it because you need a ROM that doesn't have a certain app you need. See my point?


Your point is what? You want to help every poor soul not installing the wrong rom for their needs? How do you know what ppl want? Why should anyone decide for me what rom I want to flash, or even decide how I can reach my conclusion to why I should flash it.

I have read many of the ROM threads, I still flashed TLR over bElite .95 and found out it wasn't right for me. This poll doesn't tell you which rom is best, it tells you how many ppl are using the different roms. You can then make a decision to look up the rom you find interesting, and flash it if you want. E.g. I'm using bElite .97, I see there's alot of ppl using SwiftBL...hmmm, maybe I should try it out and see if I like it. I go to the SwiftBL thread, read and make a decision. This poll gives a pointer, so I don't need to study every single rom thread to find a popular rom. I still can, but now I have a choice.

Seing how many has voted, it seems that some ppl actually thinks it's a good thing.

[KukurikU]

You need a ROM critic?
Really?
You don't seriously say you need a ROM critic.

If you take the time and bother to search and to go through each custom ROM's thread, you'll find that the first couple of posts are introducing the ROM and the other hundreds of posts are... guess what... wait for it... FEEDBACK on the ROM after people have TRIED it. YES, you are advised to try the ROM and formulate your own opinion instead of posting useless threads that have been posted before. We all look for different things and it's downright impossible for anyone to tell you what the "best" ROM is. Someone might vote for ROM X because it's fast, another one might vote for ROM X because it's got lots of free space and a third person might vote for ROM X because it's in a certain language. THen you go, download ROM X because "everyone says it's good" but you hate it because you need a ROM that doesn't have a certain app you need. See my point?
i bet he doesn't. he still didn't understand that even the forum is wrong. he didn't get when i explained and he is not going to get it no matter how many ppl are going to say it.
a noob is not a noob because of the post count. i noob is anoob because his attitude towards the forum and it's members. i didn't flame and i wasn't rude. i just said my opinion and yes, i explained and helped. you might not taste my sarcasm but still, i took the time and helped. but nothing good enough....
this is laziness and selfishness at it's best. he wants all the info ready, in one place, chewed and inserted in his useless brain. bahhhh...why do i bother?

[Pharaohnough]

to noob:
he's right you know- KukurikU (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=368137) is the only one out of 18 posts that bothered to help you with REAL information

KukurikU (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=368137):
you try and be helpful, some people appreciate it and there will always be those who don't and won't!

[zaphyr]

to noob:
he's right you know- KukurikU (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=368137) is the only one out of 18 posts that bothered to help you with REAL information

KukurikU (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=368137):
you try and be helpful, some people appreciate it and there will always be those who don't and won't!

perhaps helpfulness and sarcasm doesn't always mix well together? ;)

[tc816]

:eek: Waoooow - people arguing on usefulness of a pool!

btw there is nothing more subjective than saying something is useless vs. useful

I know my comment is useless :rolleyes:

And I vote for the pool :D

[R3PUBL1K]

What gets me is...

Some of the ROMs you have listed have been superceded before you even compiled this poll, perhaps if you did not copy the information from the tom_codon thread click then you may received some better feedback - as to what ROM people are using, technically, it may be suggested that the versions do not matter as its the same cookers/bakers but in the long run, the version is important as that is what may sway people to use that particular ROM - due to changes, bugs, and feedback.

I have also noticed many missing names of regular users on your poll results? perhaps, this is for that same reason of the versions being out-of-date. So what ever the outcome of your poll, the results will be inacurate anyway.

[PJ6363]

Hmmm, interesting to see quite a few folk have comments about this thread or "poll"
...as I understand; a poll as being a measurement of how a market is moving or focussed (for whatever reason......) Use it, that is the statistics, how you may......

Me, personally.....I just learned that most folk (40%) are still using their standard ROM and have yet to update same...interesting, I am all the wiser now....:cool:

I also leared that a significant amount of folk, ~25%, are using a derivative of the ROM I'm using....very reassuring!

Indeed, I have leant something from this thread/post, and thanks to the author for issuing same :)

BTW, perhaps a modification: so that people are voting for their "generic" ROMs i.e. use just SwiftB or Walshie's, etc..... as I am presuming (obviously not for all cases) that later version revisions have later revisions of HTC "element" updates, improved tweaks and less "bugs"

[akil3x]

I'm using the new -=® panosha ® =- Shine On 0.9 WWE Diamond ROM just one word:

FANTASTIC ;) give a try...

Cumps

[KukurikU]

Hmmm, interesting to see quite a few folk have comments about this thread or "poll"
...as I understand; a poll as being a measurement of how a market is moving or focussed (for whatever reason......) Use it, that is the statistics, how you may......
Me, personally.....I just learned that most folk (40%) are still using their standard ROM and have yet to update same...interesting, I am all the wiser now....:cool:
I also leared that a significant amount of folk, ~25%, are using a derivative of the ROM I'm using....very reassuring!
Indeed, I have leant something from this thread/post, and thanks to the author for issuing same :)
BTW, perhaps a modification: so that people are voting for their "generic" ROMs i.e. use just SwiftB or Walshie's, etc..... as I am presuming (obviously not for all cases) that later version revisions have later revisions of HTC "element" updates, improved tweaks and less "bugs"

lol! of course 40% are using standard ROM!
that's because the big majority of participants in this kind of polls are n..., sorry, new users that don't know how to flash because they are too busy answering or opening polls instead of reading and learning how to flash a new ROM. very significant and useful poll indeed!:p very realistic.

[Mujja]

someone please kill this thread, another pointless poll.

lol, is it because you have the least number of votes?

[Mujja]

Ah, wait. One last question. Which one is better?
I am too lazy to go through all the comments in the Rom, so i will just create a "Which one is better" thread :D

adilkhan1214 created this thread/poll to see which ROM is the most POPULAR.

[Mujja]

if you want to know something about ROMs go and search the benchmark thread. this is the right way to determine which one is the best ROM for you.

Why the benchmark thread? Are you saying the fastest ROM is the best ??

For me apps, or the lack off, are a more important feature as I want a lite ROM giving me storage space to install my own apps.

[l3v5y]

If you so desperately need a ROM critic, why don't you do it yourself?

Each ROM will have differences, and different followers. Read the threads and choose your own ROM, and if you still want a herd to follow, do so in the threads that already exist (and at least get the ROMs up to date!). You could even try creating a wiki page that everyone can edit with ratings and benchmarks for each ROM!

As an example of ROM reviews, look at PURESKILLZZZ ROM reviews, and then do some work to give something to the comunity.

Just because a ROM is right for most people, doesn't mean it'll do anything you want it to do! Anyway, what do you gain out of this poll?

Make a wiki page, and gather results there, or make a thread for ROM reviews and do some reviews, but don't post a thread with a poll that's already out of date, and try not to annoy senior members!

[l3v5y]

Why the benchmark thread? Are you saying the fastest ROM is the best ??

For me apps, or the lack off, are a more important feature as I want a lite ROM giving me storage space to install my own apps.
So, go and find a ROM that has that, rather than making a new thread with a poll to discover the most popular ROMs.

[okokur]

somethings gones wrong:

- the reaction is to agro (or to mutch or to stupid)

- i use only german roms cause i understand german to 95%.
so the other cookers are loosers ... ? no, there are giangts too -
in their language.

please have peace together - if you dont like the thread than
dont read it. if you need the oppinnians from other people to flash your device than do it. at end, you will see, that the creteria is not the same like yours ..

[imranbashir_uk]

Just to add my 2cents...

Firstly, I also believe that a poll is useless and pointless as such this thread is pointless. As all this shows you is what the most popular ROM is.

Secondly, I do agree with the OP that all the ROMs do need some sort of review, maybe a monthly review along with a lab test for all current ROMs. However, this job should be taken up by an independent that has experience in writing reviews.

So if any of the various Windows Mobile sites are willing to take this on (e.g. msmmobiles.com, tracyandmatt.co.uk, coolsmartphone.com, etc...), I’m sure this would be popular and increase the traffic to their respective sites.

I know that for people who can be bothered the information is already in this forum. However, it took me three days of reading before I decided on the ROM for me, not everyone has the time to do this.

[Mujja]

Why is a poll useless. Some users don't have time to flash every ROM out there to choose the best one for them. They could use the poll as a guide to narrow down 2 or 3 ROMs to try.

A poll could also help a new member decide. If a ROM is popular then it can't be bad and is worth a try. Note, I didn't say the most popular ROM is the best.

And why all the attitude from the 'senior' posters. Once again you have to jump in a post and start preaching no ROM is the best. Please read the OP, the thread starter only wants to know which the the most popular ROM, not the best.

[Mujja]

So, go and find a ROM that has that, rather than making a new thread with a poll to discover the most popular ROMs.

Are you telling me or the OP?

If me I spent my first week with the phone flashing every ROM available and have settled on bepe's basic rom. And now I'm browsing for tips and tweaks and helping others. What are you doing?

[l3v5y]

Are you telling me or the OP?

If me I spent my first week with the phone flashing every ROM available and have settled on bepe's basic rom. And now I'm browsing for tips and tweaks and helping others. What are you doing?
It was directed at people generally.

There are already threads about this, and there is the wiki. There is no need for this particular thread.

[l3v5y]

I'm closing this thread.

I've created a wiki page for you to rate/review Diamond ROMs. It'll be easier to keep up to date, and cleaner than this thread.

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_ROM_Review