Flashing the Radio / modem on ipaq 614 - first ideas

[saxxon]

Hi,

Hp just released an update for the 614, only for englisch.
I have a german 614

I dont care about the OS part since I use a cooked 6.1.
But the update also contains a modem / radio update to version 0.88.
Currently out there i think there are 0.77 and 0.81 depending on language.
I believe the radio fw is language independent when it comes to functionality. But the hpruu says wrong language.
With the current universal hpruu tools you can only update the OS which is of no use.
I know you can update the radio by booting with the key combination:
lower left key on the side (record button) and the camera button.
Then turn on ... it shows : SD loader for modem
(similar on how you update the OS)

I also know that the radio update files are in the update.
They are called
amss.mbn
amsshd.mbn
maybe also partition.nbf

But I am not sure about this.
It might work with just copying the file to a non HC SD card and using the key combination.
There might be some file renaming involved.

I someone out there to try that and let us know how it worked ?!

Thanks

sax

[Z!L0G80]

hi, imho theoreticaly you can update
1) .mbn files with qualcomm loader(SD Loader for modem) iam tryied it but no luck , .mbn files from hp 1.01.04 update have bad format not usefull for flashing from sd card :/
2) .nbf files from eboot loader(SD Loader), no luck bad format too :/

other way you can use QPST tools from Qualcomm or QC BS Firmware Analyzer(avaliable on xda forum)
small how-to connect ipaq614c for using with this tools
1) put ipaq to modem mode (push ML and power on)
2) connect ipaq to pc
3) install MotoQdrivers.zip (dont forget to adjust speed for COM ports)

i have included Qualcomm MSM6280 loader for QPST - NPRG6280.ZIP (ipaq 614 have this chip for radio)
sorry for this chaotic text i hope that is usefull :)

[bigu1975]

Saxon,

File partition.nbf is for IpaqFileStore update.

Maybe you should try with the following way:
- extract the whole package from HP side
- remove from the obtained directory the OS file (the larger one)
- put your device into SDloader state (voice recorder + mute + power on)
- connect your device into PC via USB
- launch RUU utility

In my opinion there is a big chance it will work.

Such way (using the SDloader) was working for one polish case where the upgrade of firmware failed due to PC crash. The only chance to flash again was to use SDloader + HP tool.

Good luck.

[saxxon]

hi, imho theoreticaly you can update
1) .mbn files with qualcomm loader(SD Loader for modem) iam tryied it but no luck , .mbn files from hp 1.01.04 update have bad format not usefull for flashing from sd card :/
2) .nbf files from eboot loader(SD Loader), no luck bad format too :/

other way you can use QPST tools from Qualcomm or QC BS Firmware Analyzer(avaliable on xda forum)
small how-to connect ipaq614c for using with this tools
1) put ipaq to modem mode (push ML and power on)
2) connect ipaq to pc
3) install MotoQdrivers.zip (dont forget to adjust speed for COM ports)

i have included Qualcomm MSM6280 loader for QPST - NPRG6280.ZIP (ipaq 614 have this chip for radio)
sorry for this chaotic text i hope that is usefull :)


I used the qpst already and it worked that way that i could upgrade but phone didnt boot afterwards. so i am very careful with this tool now.

I am just wondering why your sd loader (the OS image) update didnt work. because i had no probs with it so far. also from the hp orig files.

did you try the qpst update ???

if yes did it work if yes can you send a step by step ?

thx a lot

[Z!L0G80]

hi , try my patched ROMUpdate.dll mayby it could help , i dont try QPST because i have succesfully update my 614c with hpruu utility --> http://rapidshare.com/files/139300161/ROMUpdate.dll.html

[saxxon]

did you also try the cooked wm6.1 os on it already ? does it work with the new fw0.88 ?

thanks !

[Z!L0G80]

yes, when i update fw i reflashed my own 6.1 based on yevg001 v1.4 and works ok

[saxxon]

yes, when i update fw i reflashed my own 6.1 based on yevg001 v1.4 and works ok

No success ... either with the romupdate.dll oder with the other tools.
A bit stuck now ... anz other suggestions ?

thanks !

[kkwy]

29 Jul 2008 release on HP Official Site HP iPAQ 612c WM 6.0en OS 1.01.04 FW 0.88
HOW TO USE:

1. Download the FILE to a directory on your hard drive.
2. Execute the downloaded file and follow the on-screen instructions to unpack the ROM update files to a directory. (NOTE: This directory should not contain any file or folder from any previous ROM upgrade)
3. Establish an ActiveSync connection between the iPAQ device and the host PC using a USB connection.
4. The ROM Update Utility (hpRUU.exe) starts automatically. Follow the on-screen instructions to complete the ROM upgrade.
NOTE: Once the update is complete, the FILE downloaded in Step 1 can be deleted, if desired



Download Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=a65dc2a6e56aea29d2db6fb9a8902bda

[saxxon]

Thats correct :p

But thats for english devices.
I have a german one where it doesnt work, and I am looking for a workaround.

Any suggestions ?

[kkwy]

Get Hp Sp38905.exe http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=215348&prodSeriesId=3544357&prodNameId=3544378&swEnvOID=4014&swLang=18&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=hh-59339-1

Use winrar to unpack it.
You'll find an Eboot.nbf. This Eboot.nbf is language and SKU id independent.

Replace the file header of all .nbf files from hp 1.01.04 update by the header of this Eboot.nbf file.
The header is just the first 3424 bytes of .nbf files.

You do not need to change .mbn files.

Then you can run Hpruu.exe to update. The file names shown during updates are wrong, but results are right.

[dudo22]

@kkwy
And what if, like in my case, sp38905 is reporting the same error.
product id: FB136AA#ABB :confused:

[kkwy]

Just try to find one .nbf file that you can flash.
Then replace header file with the header file of that .nbf file.
The header seems to be useless (solely for checking) so you can replace then at will.

[Z!L0G80]

http://rapidshare.com/files/139300161/ROMUpdate.dll.html mayby now working ,try

EDIT> link updated

[dudo22]

@ Z!L0G80

Yes, It works.
Thanx

[dudo22]

Sucess!!

Now I have os 1.01.04, fw 0.88.

It takes a long time for radio firmware to flash, but, be patient.

Thanx again Z!L0G80

[brownfox]

It works for me to on the Dutch 614.
Strange thing is, that in de system config it stil says Dutch version of the mobile device (but it's UK now).
Very nice again.

[saxxon]

ok great .... works ! thanks a lot !
would it also work with the 914 ? anybody tried ?

thx

[analyzer.x]

My PDA already came with 1.01.04, fw 0.88 Rom, however I used the HP rom update utility to see if the rom would update without issues.

The rom update worked fine, however unfortunately something annoying is happening with this rom update. Now every time I try to do a clean boot, the first time the PDA turns on, after marking the screen, it would try to do some HP software update and right after the update I am forced to do a Reset, then I can use the PDA.

Previously I didn't have to do this, when I did a clean boot, the pda worked straight away after marking the screen, and I wouldn't need to reset it.

I think the reason for this maybe because this rom comes with extended rom, is there anyway of taking it back the way it was, or getting rid of the extra applications like the streaming player

This is the Rom I used

Type: BIOS
Version: 1.01.04 (22 Jul 2008)
Operating System(s): Microsoft Windows Mobile 6
File name: sp40097.exe (53 MB)

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=US&swItem=hh-63048-1&prodTypeId=215348&prodSeriesId=3544358

Am I the only one experiencing this issue, is there another rom that doesn't do this?

Thanks

[makefortune]

what if the Activesycn not work?

I have tried copy the amss** files on SD, then sd loader modem. And wait so long time, 2 hours, and stay with the screen "write amsshd.mbn". I dont think it is working.

Anyone tried ?

[dimos8281]

Worked for me from fw : 0.81 ell(greece) thanx!!!

[makefortune]

Worked for me from fw : 0.81 ell(greece) thanx!!!

So, you put all the files on SD card ? or only some of them ?
Partition.nbf
amsshd.mbn
amss.mbn
configure.ini
romupdate.dll
iacdhcp.exe
hpruu.exe
wbem.bat

The most important thing, how long time it took ?

Thanks a lot.

[dimos8281]

I ran it from the desktop. took some 15-20 min I think,No Problem.

[gkleding]

hi, imho theoreticaly you can update
1) .mbn files with qualcomm loader(SD Loader for modem) iam tryied it but no luck , .mbn files from hp 1.01.04 update have bad format not usefull for flashing from sd card :/
2) .nbf files from eboot loader(SD Loader), no luck bad format too :/

other way you can use QPST tools from Qualcomm or QC BS Firmware Analyzer(avaliable on xda forum)
small how-to connect ipaq614c for using with this tools
1) put ipaq to modem mode (push ML and power on)
2) connect ipaq to pc
3) install MotoQdrivers.zip (dont forget to adjust speed for COM ports)

i have included Qualcomm MSM6280 loader for QPST - NPRG6280.ZIP (ipaq 614 have this chip for radio)
sorry for this chaotic text i hope that is usefull :)
I have the QPST tool installed but do not understand where I go from here. Could you please tell me which tab I need to go to start the Radio Flash? Any instruction would be greatly appreciated.
Thank-you
Sunday

[qtek20202]

If you want I have a .dio file in english for SD flashing.

[gkleding]

If you want I have a .dio file in english for SD flashing.

Is this for my radio firmware?
Thank-you that would be gret
Sunday

[Atlus]

Is this for my radio firmware?
Thank-you that would be gret
Sunday

Where can I found the .dio file for Radio update.

Thanks