HTC X7510 or HTC Touch pro?

[branko.savic]

Hello everyone!

I sold my Athena in the favour of the upcoming HTC Touch Pro, but now I am wondering... Is it better to but the new X7510?

Can you please tell me what the differences are between the old X7500 and the new X7510?

I do know that X7510 has an 16GB SSD drive instead of the 8 GB Hard Drive, but what else is new?

With my X7500 I had some problems while watching videos, that the audio and video got out of sync after a while, I read somewhere that it was becouse the X7500 did not have the proper drivers installed, just like the Tytn II devices! Is that still an issue with the X7510?

Also I think that the X7500 did not perform very well in other applications either, to give you an example: TomTom was performing much better on the Tytn II then it was on the X7500 even tough tytn II has a slower cpu!

Please tell me if this new X7510 still has the same issues, and what more except the harddrive is changed?

Looking forward to your reply!

[AllGamer]

my X7510 is still on original HTC ROM, and running great with TomTom 7 (it comes free with TomTom 6)

i do not notice any noticeable slowdown

MP3 and Videos running fine, via my Bluetooth headsets.

coming from a Palm Treo, everything seems wAY!! faster for me. LOL :D

on the same topic, since i'm coming from the Palm World, i transfered my licenses to software i know by heart

Pocket Tunes for MP3 and TCPCMP for videos (freebie), and many other applications, that i transfered from Palm to PPC

[Vico100]

I also was choosing between those two devices, and i went for the X7510 becuase big screen, and 16GB flash.

[hollywould]

Darn, you beat me to it, I was going to post a thread on the two. You should insert a Poll, to see what people think.:)

[cktlcmd]

You might not like the X7510 because you previously own a X7500. The major complaint is the lack of hard buttons. But for me, I don't need anything except the home button, so the X7510 is perfect for my needs.

[branko.savic]

Darn, you beat me to it, I was going to post a thread on the two. You should insert a Poll, to see what people think.:)

Inserted poll, hope there will be many voters!

[branko.savic]

You might not like the X7510 because you previously own a X7500. The major complaint is the lack of hard buttons. But for me, I don't need anything except the home button, so the X7510 is perfect for my needs.

Yeah I do know that there is less hardware buttons, but I dont really need them on athena anyway! The most important thing for me to know right now is if there is a problem with missing drivers like on the X7500?

How is watching videos, does it skip frames like on X7500, does the audio/video come out of sync?

What is the biggest difference in the hardware between the X7500 and X7510, does it have another chipset or what?

These are all the questions that I need answered!

[eaglesteve]

I see that I'm the first voter!

For me, if my interest is in watching video (and I watch lots of them), there is a no brainer that a 5 inch screen is the way to go. I don't have any issue with the driver or anything like that. I find the video fluid and smooth, sound clear. I just do't demand it to be as good as my home theatre system in terms of clarity and sound quality that's all. I have lots of youtube collections and even if I watch them in 100% size, where the clarity is the best, the picture size is probably still as big as stretching it 200% on a 2.8 inch screen.

By the way, there is nothing wrong with the driver. I came across an article before explaining that even HTC did not know that it was not their fault that the ATI Imageon Decorder is not peforming. Apparently it is because another party had intentionally disabled some capability due to licensing and pricing issue. So it was a pricing rather than technical issue that we are not getting the best performance. If I come across that article again, I'll post it.

Other than being the best device to play video, Athena (whether it is 7500,7501, or 7510) are also best internet device out there at the moment. I've tried using iPhone which has only a miserable 3.2 inch. Although it has a very nice Safari, using it for internet is a pain. Everytime I want to see something, I have to use my finger to stretch it until the text are large enough to be readable. I then have to keep scrolling left and right to read. With Athena and Opera Mobile 1184, I can read without zooming in and out (if I set the minimum overview zoom to 85%). It is so easy.

Then, when come to using Softmaker or Office application, the 5 inch screen is simply unmatchable.

Even my TomTom 7, which runs very fast BTW, looks much better on the 5 inch than on 2.8 inch screen. Talking about TT7's speed, make sure you use the right ROM, as I did have issue with loading speed and memory on some ROM. Use the latest irus new 0MB pagepool ROM, MiChY 1.88, or Sogarth base ROM. The former two are particularly fast and TomTom friendly. My start screen is displayed in split seconds, and does not get half frozen like in some earlier ROMs.

I did have chance to play with a 2.8 inch device lately, and I was just too frustrated with the unacceptably small screen size. It is not finger friendly for me for most of the applications.

As your poll is between 7500 and TouchPro, I will not mention too much about the hardware button. However, as I use the device tablet style, I got to have those bottons. When using MP3 programs, I use it to skip song, repeat songs, volum up, down, blank screen, go to song list, etc. In mail, I use it to go to next mail, next account, etc. In news feed, the same things. When I walk around with MP3 in my pouch, I do not want to take it out, turn on the power, change a song, find a way to blank the screen, and put it back to my pouch. So, hope that settles once and for all why buttons are so indispensable for tablet style users, which I believe account for about half of Athena owners.

Another thing I should point out is that the microdrive is not less unreliable than my storage card, other than being a lot faster. This is based on my own experience after almost one and a half year of use by now.

I do not say that the Athena has no room for improvement. There are plenty to improve on. But there is no device out there good enough to replace it yet.

[greatestkelvin]

I currently own a x7500, Iphone 3g, HTC Diamond, Blackberry curve, blackberry pearl. Sometimes I wonder why do I need so many devices. The truth is that I like each of them for their different features. Let me share with you my knowledge from experience. HTC Diamond or HTC Pro. Though the display is sharp the screen size is way too small for serious pda users. I believe you guys are if not you will not be accessing this website. As such this device is a no no.

The Blackberry curve is good for emails as its reliable and the price plan is quite cheap. (Cheap I will explain later) Emails are really fast and reliable. Blackberry pearl, typing is not that convenient but I like it as the size of the phone is small.

The iphone 3g, its a love and hate device. A week ago, I brought it roaming in Japan. With mobile me I received about 120 emails in 2 days. Replied to about 8 of them. Check 2 websites. Made a 5 minute phone call. The bill for roaming came out to be about US$150 for that 2 days of usage. Although Mobile me is more superior as it can display pictures and html, the cost of using it overseas will make it an impractical option. In addition the emails do not arrive as fast as the blackberry emails. Someone above mentioned that you have to zoom in and out with your fingers. Actually there is an easy way. All you need to do is tap twice on the paragraph you are interested and it automatically zooms in. Video display is first class. The software seems to run smoother than pocket pc. In addition, it feels smarter and faster. Its a love and hate relationship. Though I like the software, there are many things I dislike. That is why I am still carrying my HTC Advantage

HTC Advantage x7500, is one of the best all rounder. You can edit excel, you can save any kind of documents on the device. You can sync notes and tasks with outlook. You can have tom tom or mapking on it. You can cut and paste from calendars or contacts to anywhere.
These are the things iphone cannot do. Just waiting everyday patiently for an update from Apple itunes is driving me crazy. Not only that you cannot sync it with your work and home computer. You have to pay for most of the useful software like Skype and so on

I am tempted to give my iphone to my wife and continue using the HTC Advantage.. Though I don't own a x7510. I think the main problem with it is that HTC did not spend enough efforts to main it a better device. They have the technology to increase the download speed from 1.8 mb/sec to 7.2 mb/sec but they didn't. HTC Diamond is running on 7.2 mb/sec. This actually have a big impact when you are watching youtube or slingbox using 3g. Unlimited data plan is already so common in where I live and it will be the same for the rest of the world will be so common in the next 1 to 2 years.

Hope these information help you guys in deciding which is the best device for you.

[nikolor]

It will be very hard to acept the screen of PRO for you. After 5 inches i cant work with my Nokia E61. The main problem of Athene is the fact that ATI and HTC dont want to use the whole abilities of these phone:confused:. The ATI cheep doesnt work correct:mad:. But still X7500 is amasing. I dont need 16GB of memory, but i need hardware buttons. And i wount change my phone neither to 7510 neither HTC PRO

[imperiallight]

He is talking about the 3.6 touch pro2. I will hopefully also get it in a month or two and I think my Athena will be relegated to when i have ebooks or movies to catch upon use.

[qjsmartphone]

You made a big mistake the x7510 has no equal you got scammed like a sucker



hello everyone!

I sold my athena in the favour of the upcoming htc touch pro, but now i am wondering... Is it better to but the new x7510?

Can you please tell me what the differences are between the old x7500 and the new x7510?

I do know that x7510 has an 16gb ssd drive instead of the 8 gb hard drive, but what else is new?

With my x7500 i had some problems while watching videos, that the audio and video got out of sync after a while, i read somewhere that it was becouse the x7500 did not have the proper drivers installed, just like the tytn ii devices! Is that still an issue with the x7510?

Also i think that the x7500 did not perform very well in other applications either, to give you an example: Tomtom was performing much better on the tytn ii then it was on the x7500 even tough tytn ii has a slower cpu!

Please tell me if this new x7510 still has the same issues, and what more except the harddrive is changed?

Looking forward to your reply!

[qjsmartphone]

DUDE YOU NEED to sell off the blackberry pearl and curve as the bold is superior to those 2 devices in every category you can even get the bold refurb for FREE on at&t the htc diamond don't even support at&t 3g a waste of money as the X7510 is superior in all aspects. I would sell off the x7500 and diamond for the x75210 or even the Leo and sell off the curve and pearl for profit and upgrade blackberry plan with bold or magnum(q4 realease) and get a better blackberry and extra $$$.



I currently own a x7500, Iphone 3g, HTC Diamond, Blackberry curve, blackberry pearl. Sometimes I wonder why do I need so many devices. The truth is that I like each of them for their different features. Let me share with you my knowledge from experience. HTC Diamond or HTC Pro. Though the display is sharp the screen size is way too small for serious pda users. I believe you guys are if not you will not be accessing this website. As such this device is a no no.

The Blackberry curve is good for emails as its reliable and the price plan is quite cheap. (Cheap I will explain later) Emails are really fast and reliable. Blackberry pearl, typing is not that convenient but I like it as the size of the phone is small.

The iphone 3g, its a love and hate device. A week ago, I brought it roaming in Japan. With mobile me I received about 120 emails in 2 days. Replied to about 8 of them. Check 2 websites. Made a 5 minute phone call. The bill for roaming came out to be about US$150 for that 2 days of usage. Although Mobile me is more superior as it can display pictures and html, the cost of using it overseas will make it an impractical option. In addition the emails do not arrive as fast as the blackberry emails. Someone above mentioned that you have to zoom in and out with your fingers. Actually there is an easy way. All you need to do is tap twice on the paragraph you are interested and it automatically zooms in. Video display is first class. The software seems to run smoother than pocket pc. In addition, it feels smarter and faster. Its a love and hate relationship. Though I like the software, there are many things I dislike. That is why I am still carrying my HTC Advantage

HTC Advantage x7500, is one of the best all rounder. You can edit excel, you can save any kind of documents on the device. You can sync notes and tasks with outlook. You can have tom tom or mapking on it. You can cut and paste from calendars or contacts to anywhere.
These are the things iphone cannot do. Just waiting everyday patiently for an update from Apple itunes is driving me crazy. Not only that you cannot sync it with your work and home computer. You have to pay for most of the useful software like Skype and so on

I am tempted to give my iphone to my wife and continue using the HTC Advantage.. Though I don't own a x7510. I think the main problem with it is that HTC did not spend enough efforts to main it a better device. They have the technology to increase the download speed from 1.8 mb/sec to 7.2 mb/sec but they didn't. HTC Diamond is running on 7.2 mb/sec. This actually have a big impact when you are watching youtube or slingbox using 3g. Unlimited data plan is already so common in where I live and it will be the same for the rest of the world will be so common in the next 1 to 2 years.

Hope these information help you guys in deciding which is the best device for you.

[dieterpapa]

I came from the X7500 I owned for nearly two years until it got broken - exactly when my phone contract had to be prolenged by two more years.

I was looking around for a new device and ended up to order a X7510 - I even asked my provider (T-Mobile) to sell me a new device although they hadn't listed it any more.

In my eyes there is actually no other device available offering this huge screen in addition with 16GB internal memory and the possibility to install even more memory via SD-card. I use my devica mainly for business purposes when travelling (mostly by car) - calling contacts, making appointments, adding new tasks and so on - therefore the bigger the screen the better...

The first weeks with my X7510 I was missing the hardware buttons - but meanwhile...no more.

The only thing I'm still sad of is the missing support here ;) for my X7500 there are lots of Roms to play with and those were better than the OEM Roms ;)
Nowadays with my X7510 I kept the original T-Mob Rom and added SPB Mobile Shell - I think the device is now very close to my ultimate phone:D:D
However - there could be a little bit more memory - maybe I'll try Michy again

Dieter