[Q]micro sd hidden?

[htcenrico]

Did someone notice something similar to micro sd slot near the battery on the pen side?
Is that true,or what is that?

[firefox111]

Just had a look at my diamond round the stylus cant see an SD slot there i think its just a hoax but stand to be corrected if someone else can say where it is

[Deschain]

The only thing I can see is a piece of PCB near the 'pen pulled out detection switch' (write it down for scrabble).

It isn't a micro SD slot as far as I can see.

[Black93300ZX]

The original Diamond was supposed to have one, but to make it smaller they removed it and just kept the 4GB internal storage. Only the Touch Pro has a microSD slot.

[darthbane2k]

[QUOTE=Black93300ZX;2514792]The original Diamond was supposed to have one, but to make it smaller they removed it and just kept the 4GB internal storage. QUOTE]

worst decision HTC made...

[liamhere]

worst decision HTC made...


for once we agree on something :)

[darthbane2k]

for once we agree on something :)

I hear the difference in size would have been 2mm.
2 stinking mm.

:-(

Of course the Diamond-Plus will be released in 6 months time with 16GB internal storage and micro SD slot. Price you pay will technology im afraid..

[hertc]

for once we agree on something :)
don't care .. can't fill even half of that ..

[Black93300ZX]

don't care .. can't fill even half of that ..

Can't fill half of 4 gigs, says who? This is going to be my MP3 player, my camcorder, my digital camera, my phone, my browser, my entertainment system... I'm waiting on the 32 gig MicroSD to be released.

[darthbane2k]

don't care .. can't fill even half of that ..

Well you;re obviously not trying very hard... either way a choice would have been nice. Some people have larger storage needs (pics, videos, music etc)

[guinn]

worst decision HTC made...

That and the god awful headphones and non-standard USB sync cable.

[Deschain]

That and the god awful headphones and non-standard USB sync cable.

Try a 'normal' mini USB cable ;)

[darthbane2k]

That and the god awful headphones and non-standard USB sync cable.

Supplied headphones are only designed to function as a basic hands free kit, you want sound quality- go pay for it.

The "non-standard" USB sync cable is very much a standard

[hertc]

Can't fill half of 4 gigs, says who? This is going to be my MP3 player, my camcorder, my digital camera, my phone, my browser, my entertainment system... I'm waiting on the 32 gig MicroSD to be released.

What are you going to do with it, put next to your Diamond, watch and dream ? ;)

Can imagine how people struggled just a couple of years ago when 2gig cards were the top of the range ...

This is supposed to be a business phone, if you want an entertainment system, I am guessing iphone would be a better choice for you ..

[darthbane2k]

What are you going to do with it, put next to your Diamond, watch and dream ? ;)

Can imagine how people struggled just a couple of years ago when 2gig cards were the top of the range ...

This is supposed to be a business phone, if you want an entertainment system, I am guessing iphone would be a better choice for you ..

WRONG.

The HTC Touch Diamond was not primarily designed as business phone, but a casual smartphone with a host of entertainment features (You Tube for example) akin to the iPhone.

[pixelart]

Is there any way you could get the Diamond to read an external card reader via a usb cable?

Richard

The original Diamond was supposed to have one, but to make it smaller they removed it and just kept the 4GB internal storage. Only the Touch Pro has a microSD slot.

[farukb]

Did someone notice something similar to micro sd slot near the battery on the pen side?
Is that true,or what is that?

the thing you could see is a magnet that pulls the stylus in,nothing special

[liamhere]

Is there any way you could get the Diamond to read an external card reader via a usb cable?

Richard

there has been a lot of talk about this but no joy :(

[Black93300ZX]

What are you going to do with it, put next to your Diamond, watch and dream ? ;)

Can imagine how people struggled just a couple of years ago when 2gig cards were the top of the range ...

This is supposed to be a business phone, if you want an entertainment system, I am guessing iphone would be a better choice for you ..

Ummm I don't have a Diamond, but my Raphael will be here in a few hours. And it will have 8x as much memory as your Diamond when the card is released.

[darthbane2k]

Ummm I don't have a Diamond, but my Raphael will be here in a few hours. And it will have 8x as much memory as your Diamond when the card is released.

8 times the memory, 3 times the thickness.. its a trade off

[hertc]

WRONG.

The HTC Touch Diamond was not primarily designed as business phone, but a casual smartphone with a host of entertainment features (You Tube for example) akin to the iPhone.

DISAGREE WITH THAT.
(scary enough ?)

BMW 7 series has got an mp3 player by default but it is still a business class car, and if you want to put huge speakers in the boot to entertain girls on the beach you buy something like mitsubishi evo, not 7 series ...

[salada2k]

Yeah the Raphael is too big! (For me).

And I don't find it all that much of a problem to only have 4GB. It's not hard to move some files around once every few days.

FYI Samsung only started mass producing the 8GB moviNAND at the start of this year - bad timing - it would seem at a guess that it wasn't ready in time for the Diamond so HTC had to go with the 4GB moviNAND. 8GB would have been nice but whatever... Next time. It's not like everyone here isn't going to upgrade when the next 'Diamond' comes out anyway... If I was stuck with it for life then yes I'd have a problem with 4GB...lol.

[hertc]

Ummm I don't have a Diamond, but my Raphael will be here in a few hours. And it will have 8x as much memory as your Diamond when the card is released.

I am envious, 30gb of empty space is much much better than 2gb of empty space ! ))

But, seriously, that must be cool, you can then have your complete porn collection on your phone, very handy ...

[darthbane2k]

DISAGREE WITH THAT.
(scary enough ?)

BMW 7 series has got an mp3 player by default but it is still a business class car, and if you want to put huge speakers in the boot to entertain girls on the beach you buy something like mitsubishi evo, not 7 series ...


Bad analogy.

The HTC Diamond from the ofset was marketed as a mainstream touch smartphone as was its predicessor the HTC Touch. Do Grace Fuller and friends look like corporate types?
Theres no way in hell the Diamond is being marketed as a 'business' phone. Multimedia and lifestyle is very much on the phone's agenda.

[hertc]

Theres no way in hell the Diamond is being marketed as a 'business' phone.

Really? http://www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=46436

June 4, 2008 — HTC Corp., a global leader in mobile phone innovation and design, today unveiled its advanced next generation business phone, the HTC Touch Pro™

How can HTC Touch Pro be a business phone and HTC Touch not ? These are the same phone, one with keyboard another without

[darthbane2k]

Really? http://www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=46436



How can HTC Touch Pro be a business phone and HTC Touch not ? These are the same phone, one with keyboard another without

Of course both the touch and touch pro can function as business phones. But one is clearly being MARKETED as a business phone, while one is being marketed as a casual lifestyle phone.

[hertc]

Of course both the touch and touch pro can function as business phones. But one is clearly being MARKETED as a business phone, while one is being marketed as a casual lifestyle phone.

what if Sony Ericsson w380i was MARKETED as a business phone, would you buy that or would you use common sense ?

[darthbane2k]

what if Sony Ericsson w380i was MARKETED as a business phone, would you buy that or would you use common sense ?

Doesnt make a difference.
Your arguement was that people should not complain about the 4GB/not storage card restriction of the Diamond because its a business phone. And that anyone wanting more should get an iphone.
Well my arguement that the Diamond was very much marketed as a casual smartphone with media capabilities, so in my view HTC have no excuse.

[hertc]

Well my arguement that the Diamond was very much marketed as a casual smartphone with media capabilities, so in my view HTC have no excuse.

Sorry it's hard for me to understand your approach, I always check technical specs first before choosing a phone so I am then sure it matches my requirements. I've never bought any hi-tech device based just on press release information ..

[Black93300ZX]

8 times the memory, 3 times the thickness.. its a trade off

11.5mm to 18mm? 3x, yeah, just about. But at least I have the hardware for quad-band UMTS :-O

[Black93300ZX]

I am envious, 30gb of empty space is much much better than 2gb of empty space ! ))

But, seriously, that must be cool, you can then have your complete porn collection on your phone, very handy ...

Well I have 16 gigs of music on my computer right now, so that argument is out the window....

[tnyynt]

11.5mm to 18mm? 3x, yeah, just about. But at least I have the hardware for quad-band UMTS :-O

Is this "conversation" going anywhere?

[Black93300ZX]

Is this "conversation" going anywhere?

He asked if I was going to stare at my Diamond and a 32 gig MicroSD card... I explained the Diamond was restricted, he thought he'd make his point, and I refuted it. No hard feelings, just making a case for why I want a 32 gig microSD card.

[l3v5y]

Can you lot stop flaming each other? The question has been answered. There is no MicroSD hardware on the Diamond. There never will be. The Diamond does not have USB host support, so that won't work.

If you continue flaming each other, I'll close the thread.

EDIT:
Damnit, tnyynt got here first!

[darthbane2k]

Sorry it's hard for me to understand your approach, I always check technical specs first before choosing a phone so I am then sure it matches my requirements. I've never bought any hi-tech device based just on press release information ..

Nor have I, but all im saying is that HTC made a mistake restricting the diamond to the 4GB storage only. There is not excuse really and I suspect it was a marketing decision more than anything else.

[xispas2008]

Ummm I don't have a Diamond, but my Raphael will be here in a few hours. And it will have 8x as much memory as your Diamond when the card is released.

And carring a brick in your pockect. Did you look at the size of the phone? It has the same tickness as my house wireless phone.

Same goes for Omnia and Iphone http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3?sImg=reviewsimg/htc-diamond-vs-samsung-omnia/omnia/gsmarena_038.jpg

They squezeed it to get those extra milimeters by reducing battery life and by removing the mcsd card slot, but a phone that can be concealed by your hand or be hidden in your shirt's pocket its a plus.

Where they could improve and that is a shame they didnt for the PRO, was the screen size. Those hardware buttons are useless and just take precious usable *VGA* space.

[hertc]

Nor have I, but all im saying is that HTC made a mistake restricting the diamond to the 4GB storage only. There is not excuse really and I suspect it was a marketing decision more than anything else.

Maybe they made a mistake, but I am glad they did so:
1) No need to spend money on new microSD card after phone purchase
2) More stable and quicker (?) memory solution
3) I guess because people were complaining a lot about this (+ "slowness") in the pre-release reviews I managed to get the latest HTC model for the half of the normal price in the first day when it was released here ..did not expect to get it for that price before Xmas .. I am only listening to music while driving so 4gb is a lot for me.

[Lann_78]

Try a 'normal' mini USB cable ;)

Can A normal mini usb cable be used? will it harm the phone in any way?

[JanDaMan]

will you ladies stop bickering about weather this is a business phone or not, who gives a crap, you buy the phone if it suites your needs, for some ppl that business, for others it leisure.

11.5mm to 18mm? 3x, yeah, just about. But at least I have the hardware for quad-band UMTS :-O

the touch pro is a brick compared to the diamond, once again it comes down to individual priorities, one of the reasons i got the diamond is because of its small size to feature ratio if you will, the pro is a good phone but way too big for my trousers and i dont need a pull out keyboard or much more than 4GB of memory. + i'm not sure but i think UTMS quad band may be unlockable on the diamond... but again i dont need that, roaming charges are too much

i do wish HTC had fitted 8GB inboard memory card instead of 4gb tho, Just coz i can stick more music in it then - that would have meant keeping it the same size but an increase in price of what... £10 lol o well.

as it is i take my ipod if i need all my music (mainly the gym), and stick with the diamond 4 everything else

the way i see it is overall the diamond is a compelling mix of looks style and features, the touch pro is just features...

Can A normal mini usb cable be used? will it harm the phone in any way?

yes you can use a normal mini cable (the fancy one suplied with the diamond just has an extra pin that i believe is used for audio output only.

[glumetu]

On this business vs entertainment target of HTC Diamond: I think the PDA features of this phone (Contacts database, WiFi, Email, Data Push, 3G, Outlook integration) far exceed its entertainment features (album? camera? youtube? come on ...)

From this perspective (mine, as a business person): SD slot was never an issue, simply because I never intended to use this phone other than for business (email, messaging, business travel companion, office docs viewer). The only other compelling feature for me was GPS capability. Now I use 1.2 GB out of the 4 GB, and most of it is the iGo maps.

Do I need space for music and pictures? Of course, I have a 1TB FLAC collection. I use a professional DSLR camera that outputs 20MB pictures. Do I intend to make them available to my phone? No. Playing and viewing such large files (or large collections of small files) was never on the Diamond designers' minds, I can bet on that. Do I need web-browsing? Only if I badly need an info I can't get otherwise (being away from home and work).

So I think business feats and entertainment feats are not yet ideally merged into one device. If I want business feats (with a bit of cool factor) - I choose the Diamond (which I did). If I want entertainment feats - I choose the iPod Touch (which is the bug-free version of the iPhone LOL).

So I guess it really boils down to a question of choice.

What I do not understand is why people make a choice and then whine about the choice they've made. It's not like you didn't know Diamond didn't have an SD extension slot.

[glumetu]

yes you can use a normal mini cable (the fancy one suplied with the diamond just has an extra pin that i believe is used for audio output only.
this is correct, I can confirm I am using right now a mini USB. It works flawessly although it looks like it wouldn't fit.

[darthbane2k]

On this business vs entertainment target of HTC Diamond: I think the PDA features of this phone (Contacts database, WiFi, Email, Data Push, 3G, Outlook integration) far exceed its entertainment features (album? camera? youtube? come on ...)

From this perspective (mine, as a business person): SD slot was never an issue, simply because I never intended to use this phone other than for business (email, messaging, business travel companion, office docs viewer). The only other compelling feature for me was GPS capability. Now I use 1.2 GB out of the 4 GB, and most of it is the iGo maps.

Do I need space for music and pictures? Of course, I have a 1TB FLAC collection. I use a professional DSLR camera that outputs 20MB pictures. Do I intend to make them available to my phone? No. Playing and viewing such large files (or large collections of small files) was never on the Diamond designers' minds, I can bet on that. Do I need web-browsing? Only if I badly need an info I can't get otherwise (being away from home and work).

So I think business feats and entertainment feats are not yet ideally merged into one device. If I want business feats (with a bit of cool factor) - I choose the Diamond (which I did). If I want entertainment feats - I choose the iPod Touch (which is the bug-free version of the iPhone LOL).

So I guess it really boils down to a question of choice.

What I do not understand is why people make a choice and then whine about the choice they've made. It's not like you didn't know Diamond didn't have an SD extension slot.



LOL, you claim 'business users' dont need removable storage? Whatever.

Anyway I have found a sloppy solution for storage restrictions. I use these gizmos (which stay on my key chain) to store/remove/transfer extra albums and GPS maps.


http://usb.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00077

http://usb.brando.com.hk/prod_img/thumb/UADAP000200_01_M.jpg


http://usb.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00331

http://usb.brando.com.hk/prod_img/thumb/UCARD003600_01_M.jpg

http://usb.brando.com.hk/prod_img/zoom/UCARD003600_04_L.jpg

[glumetu]

LOL, you claim 'business users' dont need removable storage? Whatever.
You're still in flame mode, mate.

No, I claim "I" don't need removable storage. I only referred to MY perspective. If you can speak for a whole class of users, then kudos to you. I for one can't.

I have 10 years seniority in finance business and I think if I zip real hard all the really important keeper docs throughout my career, I could only fill a DVD, barely. Zipped Excel and Word files are really small :D

To be clear, keeper business docs don't include MP3's... and VOB's... and TIFF's...

cheers.

[darthbane2k]

You're still in flame mode, mate.

No, I claim "I" don't need removable storage. I only referred to MY perspective. If you can speak for a whole class of users, then kudos to you. I for one can't.

I have 10 years seniority in finance business and I think if I zip real hard all the really important keeper docs throughout my career, I could only fill a DVD, barely. Zipped Excel and Word files are really small :D

To be clear, keeper business docs don't include MP3's... and VOB's... and TIFF's...

cheers.


Depends on what line of business you are in. Say if you work in the media? Say if you work in marketing?..

Do you mind me asking why you went for a Diamond rather than a Touch Pro (which IS the business one, apparantly..)

[glumetu]

Depends on what line of business you are in. Say if you work in the media? Say if you work in marketing?..
last comment here cause it seems I've fallen into the trap of arguing with you :D

if I'd work in media/marketing, I wouldn't want to view/edit my work on a friggin' mobile phone! Show me one single professional that does this.... :D

Why I chose the Diamond over the Pro? Simple:

1. Pro is way too thick - I had a N80 before - the thickness of it was really annoying - very heavy and very thick. Really uncomfortable.
2. Wouldn't use the hardware keyboard that much. I found the compact QWERTY works very well for me.
3. Pro is not that much business over the Diamond. My Diamond works just fine and zippy.
4. Overall it doesn't justify the upcharge for me.
5. There is no perfect business phone. If I keep waiting for the best one, I'll never get one.

[darthbane2k]

last comment here cause it seems I've fallen into the trap of arguing with you :D

if I'd work in media/marketing, I wouldn't want view/edit my work on a friggin' mobile phone! Show me one single professional that does this.... :D

Id might want to draft an email/memo
Id might want to view an excel chart
Id might want to view a powerpoint document ahead (or following) a presentation.

Possibilities are endless.

Anyhow, what did you make of my solution a couple posts back?

[glumetu]

Anyhow, what did you make of my solution a couple posts back?
I don't know mate, I guess it's helpful for people who need extra storage.

BTW: on the N80, I had a 256MB miniSD - I never filled that one either :D

[Desmondo]

After reading hardly any of this thread, I have the answer....what some people like, others don't. What some people need, others don't. Why are some people trying to convince others their choice is wrong?

Everybody picks a phone depending on what THEY want from it. It really is that simple :D

[hertc]

Anyway I have found a sloppy solution for storage restrictions. I use these gizmos (which stay on my key chain) to store/remove/transfer extra albums and GPS maps.

How does it correspond to "There is no MicroSD hardware on the Diamond. There never will be. The Diamond does not have USB host support, so that won't work." ?

[The Jones]

LOL, you claim 'business users' dont need removable storage? Whatever.

Anyway I have found a sloppy solution for storage restrictions. I use these gizmos (which stay on my key chain) to store/remove/transfer extra albums and GPS maps.


http://usb.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00077

http://usb.brando.com.hk/prod_img/thumb/UADAP000200_01_M.jpg


http://usb.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00331

http://usb.brando.com.hk/prod_img/thumb/UCARD003600_01_M.jpg

http://usb.brando.com.hk/prod_img/zoom/UCARD003600_04_L.jpg

Are you saying that plugs into the Diamond and is recognised?

[darthbane2k]

How does it correspond to "There is no MicroSD hardware on the Diamond. There never will be. The Diamond does not have USB host support, so that won't work." ?

I know. So I carry extra albums, extra GPS maps, anything I may need in an emergency on a Micro SD, the adaptor stays on my key chain all the time. The second adaptor is a small USB to Mini USB adaptor and also stays on my keys. All I need is a laptop/PC nearby to transfer files. Not ideal but better than nothing

[pistonripper]

11.5mm to 18mm? 3x, yeah, just about. But at least I have the hardware for quad-band UMTS :-O

You can have what you like ...18mm running along 10cm ...its still too thick :D

[l3v5y]

Are you saying that plugs into the Diamond and is recognised?
No. You can plug the Diamond into a PC/laptop, and plug the MicroSD card into a laptop, and then transfer the files between the two.

[H3PO]

Lets see, as soon as there is any success regarding the usb host drivers, I'll try to solder a sd card into the phone.
What I'm missing is some investigations on the diamond's hardware, like on the iphone.

[Dynomite232]

isnt there somkinda bluetooth sd storage we can buy for this diamond

[Darth Andy]

Well I have 16 gigs of music on my computer right now, so that argument is out the window....

I'm pushing 70 Gigs of music, so a media player wasn't really in my want list when I chose it. 4 Gigs is more than enough for me since my Diddy is, in order:


My diary
Mobile Tinterwebz
Email / Messaging
Occasionally a phone
Some games
Impressing mates with accelerometer trixyness
My tertiary camera of choice (but handy to have in my pocket)
Etc.

Um... what was the question again?

[Black93300ZX]

I'm pushing 70 Gigs of music, so a media player wasn't really in my want list when I chose it. 4 Gigs is more than enough for me since my Diddy is, in order:


My diary
Mobile Tinterwebz
Email / Messaging
Occasionally a phone
Some games
Impressing mates with accelerometer trixyness
My tertiary camera of choice (but handy to have in my pocket)
Etc.

Um... what was the question again?

First of all, I can't believe this thread is still alive. Second, does anyone actually use the GPS in their Diamond? I used my Fuze's GPS all the time, I LOVE having turn by turn directions when I'm in unfamiliar territory. My maps took up 1.5 gigs, plus POI's, plus the program itself... All said and done, you're probably using more than half of your Diamond's storage just to have GPS. Maybe that's not a big issue to you, I don't know if you drive a lot... But to me, it's huge.

Edit: Actually, my sister has Garmin Mobile XT and her maps are 3.78 gigs. Bye bye Diamond storage!