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my5terious
12th August 2008, 01:47 PM
Hi
i have G4 wizard 2.16 IPL/SPL and i updated it by IPL_SPL_3.08 update Rom utility. I flashed fine after that i turned it off using power button. my Bad !!!
after that i never start.. no more power i tried to connect to charger and usb connection but LCD still showing no sign. i checked my wizard battery to one of my friend Wizard and its working fine..
so confused dont know what actually happened to it.... please help
ashasaur
12th August 2008, 02:20 PM
You update your IPL/SPL, THAT is what the problem is. You cant update a G4's IPL/SPL to anything other then HardSPL, OR with an official carrier ROM and expect it too work. I may be wrong, but it sounds like your phones bootloader is now bad, and we currently have no way of fixing this....sorry!
zabardast_1
12th August 2008, 09:03 PM
Hi
i have G4 wizard 2.16 IPL/SPL and i updated it by IPL_SPL_3.08 update Rom utility. I flashed fine after that i turned it off using power button. my Bad !!!
after that i never start.. no more power i tried to connect to charger and usb connection but LCD still showing no sign. i checked my wizard battery to one of my friend Wizard and its working fine..
so confused dont know what actually happened to it.... please help
Are you sure its G4 ? coz G4 doesn't have IPL/SPL 2.16.It must be 2.16.0001.
Well,if its 2.16.0001 then its a G4 and flashing G3 IPL/SPL 3.08 will certainly Brick it.But if it has IPL/SPL 2.16 only,then its a G3 and there are chances to recover it back.
ktemkin
13th August 2008, 12:53 AM
The only way to fix a G4 in the condition you're describing is to go and flash the Memory chip directly inside the device like they do on the assembly line. This just isn't possible from the standard miniUSB port, as you've overwritten the bootloader, which contains the instructions which move the data from the USB serial buffer onto the flash chip.
As you probably don't have the technology, software, or know-how to correctly identify the memory chip inside your Wizard, rig up a cable, and download the correct binary data, I'd recommend one of two options:
1) The safer option: admit your mistake and try to send the device back to your 'OEM'- whoever branded your Wizard. They should have the technology to repair it- but don't expect it to come cheap.
2) The cheaper option: Find a cheap Wizard with a broken LCD and either transfer your LCD to the new wizard (probably easier), or transfer the motherboard from the new Wizard to your bricked on.
And next time, read through the guides posted here before attempting any flashing operation- they cover the basics, and will prevent you from putting your device into this state again.
dsmadala
25th September 2008, 06:49 AM
Are you sure its G4 ? coz G4 doesn't have IPL/SPL 2.16.It must be 2.16.0001.
Well,if its 2.16.0001 then its a G4 and flashing G3 IPL/SPL 3.08 will certainly Brick it.But if it has IPL/SPL 2.16 only,then its a G3 and there are chances to recover it back.
Well, i did exactly the same- i had a 2.16 and 2.16oip, which i flashed to a 3.08, after which it booted ok, showing a 3.08 and a 2.16oip. On the next re-start everything went dead, no power up. So do you have any hope for me (G3)?
Thanks
ktemkin
25th September 2008, 03:57 PM
If your device is truly a G3, just flashing to IPL/SPL 3.08 shouldn't cause any problems whatsoever.
When you say no power up, what symptoms are you experiencing? Does the device charge? Can it turn on to the tri-color bootloader screen? The more specific you are, the more we can help you.
dsmadala
25th September 2008, 04:36 PM
If your device is truly a G3, just flashing to IPL/SPL 3.08 shouldn't cause any problems whatsoever.
When you say no power up, what symptoms are you experiencing? Does the device charge? Can it turn on to the tri-color bootloader screen? The more specific you are, the more we can help you.
I cannot get any display at all. I tried the power button several times, (i don't want to ruin the power button too!) as that is pretty flimsy on this device. On charging- i do not see any charging light either, but i do have a fully charged battery (so its not a case of the battery having no charge charge that the charging circuit would not work)
Appreciate your help.
+ Que PPC
25th September 2008, 07:14 PM
Wait wait wait... :mad:
Ill expend all my icons in mad.
The man dont knows what about his device is... you cant!!!!!! you cant!!!!! upgrade that way!!!!! only Stock roms for G4!!!!!
So... I Dont have a G4 and i never had one or wish it... so... I never see a IPL SPL G4 with aku3!!! I saw only... IPL 2.16.0001 and SPL2.16.Olip or something made by hardSPL tool.
Please go to this site and please vote for dont get new users without all his info RIGHT!!!! posted in his signature or before everything on login info display and see this info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2691418#post2691418
We can get Info by default...? i dont know im just trying to get some answers and posibilities.
So sorry for MAD faces :mad: I apologized to all... and for my english too jejeje.
ktemkin
25th September 2008, 09:17 PM
On charging- i do not see any charging light either, but i do have a fully charged battery (so its not a case of the battery having no charge charge that the charging circuit would not work)
Appreciate your help.
I don't know what you mean by the latter, but your problem sounds more like a hardware problem than a software.
Can you confirm that your battery is fully charged with a voltmeter? (It should be slightly above its rated voltage.) Were you trying to charge with the wall charger or the USB cable?
+ Que PPC
25th September 2008, 11:19 PM
Your wizard is......
BRICKED!!!!
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/926/brickmc2.th.jpg
IF YOU DONT HAVE SIGNAL AND FULLY BATT IS BRICKED...
Read this...
I can enter in bootloader... and the IPL and SPL are the same G3 or G4
Your wizard is not bricked..
I can NOT enter in bootloader... when plug on wall charger red LED or no led..
Your wizard is bricked.
So Sorry men... a silence minute everybody please.
dsmadala
26th September 2008, 04:49 PM
I don't know what you mean by the latter, but your problem sounds more like a hardware problem than a software.
Can you confirm that your battery is fully charged with a voltmeter? (It should be slightly above its rated voltage.) Were you trying to charge with the wall charger or the USB cable?
You may be right, it looks more like a hardware issue. Tried both the wall charger and the USB onthe phone to check the LED light. The battery, however is fully charged- have a couple of them and an external battery charger. Thanks for your thots, unlike a few who go ranting about dumbness.
zabardast_1
26th September 2008, 09:37 PM
You may be right, it looks more like a hardware issue. Tried both the wall charger and the USB onthe phone to check the LED light. The battery, however is fully charged- have a couple of them and an external battery charger. Thanks for your thots, unlike a few who go ranting about dumbness.
Its not a hardware problem and if you think what all say here is all ranting about dumbness,then just let me remind you,it was your own dumbness & fault,that you got your device 'BRICKED'.
A Bricked device,doesn't charge,nor gets into Bootloaders and neither Power up.
Now,how it got bricked,let me tell you straight,it was a G4 device and HardSPL was applied and flashed with patched IPL/SPL.You flashed a G3 Bootloaders (IPL/SPL 3.08) to a HardSPL patched IPL/SPL (2.16 and 2.16oip),what were you expecting cud have happened,its known and warned many times to read and follow the instructions carefully,you didn't pay any attention or mis understood all,now its bricked.
This is exactly what all the above members have been telling you,now if you take that as 'dumbness',well I'm astonished.
ktemkin
Perhaps,you didn't read the post carefully or have no idea about what he did or what has happened.Even you have a fully charged battery,still it cannot Boot up a Bricked phone. The DOC CHIP Flash Memory is corrupted due to wrong IPL/SPL flash.either the DOC Chip Flash Memory is to be replaced or the whole Motherboard.That means buying a new device,lol.
It was due to ignorance and wrong Software fault.
+ Que PPC
26th September 2008, 09:52 PM
dont make sense about it man!
Till we have members without his info correctly we cant do nothing... just try to advise them or tell what was the prob or try to help... misunderstand is a non handle thing we cant avoid....:(
Already posted to adms and Mods to make, in register info the first time, this kind of info... but it seems that our devices WIZARDS are the most bricked because this IPL and SPL diferences in DOC CHIP version... :eek:
Maybe is info that not everybody got and not to be forced to answer anyways... could help. see REQUESTS to Mods and admins in about XDA-developers forum.
thanks.
dsmadala
27th September 2008, 06:50 AM
Thanks for setting me straight. If you can indulge my ignorance one more time, would flashing a 3.08 brick the device immediately? or would it brick it on the first boot after a flash? I ask because i did see it boot with a 3.08, work for a while and then fail on a reboot (which i started manually).
Thanks
+ Que PPC
27th September 2008, 06:39 PM
Thanks for setting me straight. If you can indulge my ignorance one more time, would flashing a 3.08 brick the device immediately? or would it brick it on the first boot after a flash? I ask because i did see it boot with a 3.08, work for a while and then fail on a reboot (which i started manually).
Thanks
The first problem here is the mixed g3 and g4 ROMS 3.08 is g3.
It dont has issues about that cause is a stock rom i have it and no issues about that... its highly recomended to upgrade just to 2.xx original stock not 3.xx because the aku version ok?
so im apologize for all I said Men... but the experince is the best thing you can get. i have 3.08 just a few months but i did not do the upgrade with this... even tough i ask a lot about upgrade my ipl spl to zabardast and he told me Stupid newbie too but now i know more thing, and yes! I stiil am an stupid but a little less than since he answer all my question... if you dont believe me read all the forum about upgrade jeje
Thanks Zabardast.
ktemkin
28th September 2008, 02:39 PM
ktemkin
Perhaps,you didn't read the post carefully or have no idea about what he did or what has happened.
I wasn't referring to the original poster. I was replying to dsmadala, whose device is a G3- which shouldn't be adversely affected by a G3 IPL/SPL upgrade.
Asepkurniawan
6th October 2008, 07:08 AM
Did someone has a flexible for wizard...................mine was broke
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