HTC Touch Pro Aka Raephel Vs HTC Touch Diamond

[mnshsnghl]

Hi,
I am in Delhi (india), and need to buy a new PDA. I am not able to make up my mind on Touch Diamond or Touch pro. HTC touch pro is not yet launched here, and will be launched soon... if somebody knows the date of launch, please let me know.
Can somebody advice me, if it is worth waiting for Touch pro, or go ahead and buy Diamond.

Thanks.

[grahamrb]

The Touch Pro has the following extra things:
- Slide out keyboard
- 288Mb RAM rather than 192Mb
- 512Mb ROM rather than 256Mb (Diamond also has build in memory for file storage - eg, music etc)
- Flash to go with camera
- more powerful battery
- microSD slot instead of 4Gb built in memory
- fair bit thicker (almost 1cm I think)
- TV out (though an extra cable which needs to be purchased)

You can see a side by side comparison here:

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=1306&id2=1311

[kareeem]

Wrong, the Raphael does not have more ROM. The Diamond has 4gb ROM while the Raphed has only 512mb. I'm pretty sure it's more thicker than an cm, especially when you consider the keyboard ;)

[Black93300ZX]

Wrong, the Raphael does not have more ROM. The Diamond has 4gb ROM while the Raphed has only 512mb. I'm pretty sure it's more thicker than an cm, especially when you consider the keyboard ;)

Right, 18mm to 11.5mm I believe.

It's really not that thick though, believe me...

[grahamrb]

Wrong, the Raphael does not have more ROM. The Diamond has 4gb ROM while the Raphed has only 512mb. I'm pretty sure it's more thicker than an cm, especially when you consider the keyboard ;)

To clarify...

The Diamond has 256Mb + the 4Gb storage, whereas the Diamond has 512Mb + microSD card slot.

[kareeem]

To clarify...

The Diamond has 256Mb + the 4Gb storage, whereas the Diamond has 512Mb + microSD card slot.
True, however ROM is what's built in so i took it that's what you mean ;) No biggy, good clarification for all.

[asksaravana]

Very Importantly , It depends on convenience. If you do a lot of typing and used to hardware keyboards then Raphael is a go
If you are used to onscreen keyboard , Touch Diamond has a good onscreen keyboard which gets very comfortable to use.Further , raphael has extra ram ( 288 , but again 64 mb may be off for Graphics processor as diamond )and provides storage card slot.

[Black93300ZX]

True, however ROM is what's built in so i took it that's what you mean ;) No biggy, good clarification for all.

Well, I think the bigger part is that firmware can't be put on the 4GB fixed memory or the microSD card, so the Raphael has more room for that.

[mnshsnghl]

Thanks everyone for replying back. Any idea when is "Raphael" launching in India or in Delhi for that matter. And what is the expected price for it ?

[grahamrb]

Well, I think the bigger part is that firmware can't be put on the 4GB fixed memory or the microSD card, so the Raphael has more room for that.

All very true, I will edit my post to try to clarify.

[mnshsnghl]

By the way, if diamond has 4 GB fixed memory on the board, and Raphael has only 512 mb of that + microSD card, so wont the Diamond should access the memory faster ?, and it should be more reliable too ?

[golympio]

The speed depends on your MicroSD card, some are pretty fast.

[ferraripassion]

Airtel Might launch Raphael in a few months.

[asksaravana]

The speed depends on your MicroSD card, some are pretty fast.

Yes Very Well, High Speed Micro SD's Provide exceptional performance

[Jorlin]

Yes Very Well, High Speed Micro SD's Provide exceptional performance

SanDisk mircoSDHC Ultra II 8gb? Is it any good?


Still wondering when we will see 12GB or even 16GB microSDHC cards... all have been announced in january... odd

[grahamrb]

SanDisk mircoSDHC Ultra II 8gb? Is it any good?


Still wondering when we will see 12GB or even 16GB microSDHC cards... all have been announced in january... odd

Yeah, I googled for about 15 mins for some but could only find them on pre-order (the 12Gb ones) with no release date or price.

[muuu]

By the way, if diamond has 4 GB fixed memory on the board, and Raphael has only 512 mb of that + microSD card, so wont the Diamond should access the memory faster ?, and it should be more reliable too ?

Ok lets try again...
Diamond RAM: 192MB. Raphael RAM: 288MB.
Diamond ROM: 256MB. Raphael ROM: 512MB.
Diamond Extra memory: 4GB(Internal). Raphael Extra memory: MicroSD.

RAM is for loading programs and using the phone.
ROM is for storing windows and programs.
Extra memory is for programs, music, video and images.

Hope it helps.

[alizamani18]

4GB intern sucks, I have a 8gb micro sd hc which I also can use for other stuf. Also reading and writing goes faster with memorycard reader than using the phone with usb cable.

[merten3000]

SanDisk mircoSDHC Ultra II 8gb? Is it any good?


Still wondering when we will see 12GB or even 16GB microSDHC cards... all have been announced in january... odd

Recieved my sandisk 8gb mobile ultra class 6! microsdhc card today.
Replaced my 4gb class 2.

My kaiser is flying with this new card...
Looking up adresses in tomtom could be a pain, but now it's done in the blink of an eye.

The speed makes up for the extra money (and that is not much to start with: 41 euro incl shipment) !!!!

[BruceS]

True, however ROM is what's built in so i took it that's what you mean ;) No biggy, good clarification for all.

Just to clarify further it makes no difference whether the memory is built in or not... ROM is Read Only Memory and is generally where the operating system is stored and where the device boots from. The additional on-board 4gb in the Diamond is RAM which is available for storing user files...

[Rudegar]

the interface of pda's cant keep up with fast sdcards really it's been an issue
since they first came out
it does help with sdcard readers if they are quality though as in when one copy files from the pc using a reader

[golympio]

Devices like the Ipaq 200 have one port for SD, one for CompactFlash - it makes 64 gigs of theorethical capacity! Maybe more if Sandisk comes up with 64Gb cards. Is it possible?

I wish HTC would put 2 micro SDs on the Raphael, it would make a big iPod-phone-thingy...

[robal]

I had both Diamond and Touch Pro.
One more interesting thing I've observed:

The GPS signal quality seems to be better on Pro.

I don't have pictures of Touch Pro guts, but maybe the used thicker GPS antenna for it.
Anyway, my impression on GPS signal strength and fix speed is better on Pro.

I've yet to make a real test (devices side by side, monitoring GPS strength).

[mario23]

All right help me out guys!!!

I currently have the AT&T Tilt and was thinking about upgrading to the Touch Pro when it comes out soon enough. For kicks, I went by a Sprint store and checked out the Diamond. I love it. The size is perfect for me. Realistically I don't use the keyboard that much except for the occasional SMS so that's not an issue. The compact size is though. So now my dilemma...

Do I stay with A&T and get the Touch Pro or...

Do I switch to Sprint so I can get the Diamond?????

I can't decide :(

[JRMX]

All right help me out guys!!!

.......
Do I stay with A&T and get the Touch Pro or...

Do I switch to Sprint so I can get the Diamond?????

I can't decide :(

You might consider the option I have chosen, an unlocked US 3G Diamond from Best Buy, running on AT&T (auto setup for At&T pops up on initializing the device).

Most of the phone comparisons have been made, I would just note that the 'US Diamond' has the 1350 mAH battery and a matte back.

I get along with the virtual keyboards, have no issues with the GPS and 4GB Internal Storage is plenty for my uses. The memory (ROM and RAM) with the Pro is the one tempting issue, more is always better.

Best Buy honored price match with a reputable web site, so the damages were not bad.

Hope this didn't add to the confusing choices.:)

[kingjack]

Thanks everyone for replying back. Any idea when is "Raphael" launching in India or in Delhi for that matter. And what is the expected price for it ?

i dont knw whethr by now, u have decided and got a new Diamond or Pro by now.....bt it seems Touch Pro s nt going to be launched in India.......frm wht i hear, its like HTC s directly launching Touch HD and nt Pro here.........

i waited fr it to launch n since cudn't resist ne more, gt Touch Pro, unlocked frm grey mkt in Mumbai.......

n my verdict s clear.......Touch Pro much bettr than Diamond :)

[kaimerabellerophon]

Hey,

I just got Touch Pro from Vodafone as an upgrade and I would say it was my correct decision to go for Touch Pro rather than Diamond. the biggest advantage compare to Diamond is the sliding keboard and rest its Exactly the same as Diamond.... so take your call... if u r comfortable on screen keyboard then go for Diamond but if u r not then go for TP. i hate screen keyboard for sms or emails when u have to type for long...







Hi,
I am in Delhi (india), and need to buy a new PDA. I am not able to make up my mind on Touch Diamond or Touch pro. HTC touch pro is not yet launched here, and will be launched soon... if somebody knows the date of launch, please let me know.
Can somebody advice me, if it is worth waiting for Touch pro, or go ahead and buy Diamond.

Thanks.