gps doesn't work

[Teckynou]

hi all
my gps doesn't work.... tomtom6 works, but it says "pas de peripherique gps" (no GPS hardware)....
i tried all toms that can be found in this forum, but withour result
at this time, I have the official HTC WWE rom :
ROM 1.11.707.1
Date 29/01/08
Radio 03.15.90
Protocole 4.1.13.59

setting of external gps : COM4, 4800baud , none (hardware com)
setting of tomtom : other NMEA gps, com4, 4800 baud

please, hellp
thanks

[moosev]

Try setting tomtom to internal GPS not to other NMEA.

[Teckynou]

I have also tried internal GPS... but it still doesn't work

whan I set other NMEA and com4, the right side led, strat flashing orange. so i this the softxare is good, and so my probleme is hardware :mad:

Ihave aslo try IGO8 GPS... and the result is the same.
:mad:

[Teckynou]

well... my GPS works, but only with my original Orange ROM... i try it with Guigou's rom and poldo's rom, and it doesn't work.
the orange led is flashing like it should, but software (Igo or tomtom) are not able to found gps hardware...
I thinks a driver is missing in those ROM. or the driver is wrong, regarding to my Orange mobile

any idea?


thanks a lot

[Teckynou]

I download Advanced Configuration Tools v2.0.2.0, and GPS is not listed (with Guigou's rom).
I must try with Poldo's, but I don't have it a this time.

[cbruno338]

well... my GPS works, but only with my original Orange ROM... i try it with Guigou's rom and poldo's rom, and it doesn't work.
the orange led is flashing like it should, but software (Igo or tomtom) are not able to found gps hardware...
I thinks a driver is missing in those ROM. or the driver is wrong, regarding to my Orange mobile

any idea?


thanks a lot

no idea same problem !!! but IGO 8 does work with ORANGE rom ? tomtom does but what about IGO ???
many thanks my friend :D
Bruno.

[Teckynou]

IGO works fine with my Orange rom

[pierpier]

hello i have the same problem. what are you doing to gps work.....?

[daniel.mota]

Try these values in "Settings" - "GPS Setings":

Software port: COM4
Hardware port: COM2
Transmission speed: 115200

After this, select "Internal GPS" in your navigation software.

[ilkery]

Gps active original Orange ROM
version de Rom : 1.13.73.1


http://rapidshare.com/files/142359641/ROM_FRENCH_ORANGE.rar

[Teckynou]

Try these values in "Settings" - "GPS Setings":

Software port: COM4
Hardware port: COM2
Transmission speed: 115200

After this, select "Internal GPS" in your navigation software.

doesn't work....

the only way is using the original ornage rom at the time.


I extract oem and sys folder of my original orange rom, and in OEM/OperatorPKG, their is "HtcGpsUpdate_with_MUI.cab".... what is it? maybe this cab is a "driver" for the internal gps of an Orange Pharos (maybe their is a diferent hardware)

[daniel.mota]

doesn't work....

the only way is using the original ornage rom at the time.


I extract oem and sys folder of my original orange rom, and in OEM/OperatorPKG, their is "HtcGpsUpdate_with_MUI.cab".... what is it? maybe this cab is a "driver" for the internal gps of an Orange Pharos (maybe their is a diferent hardware)

It works for me.

Maybe because i still have the original rom.

[ilkery]

Good Job my friend...


:http://rapidshare.com/files/144442103/HtcGpsUpdate_with_MUI.cab

[Teckynou]

It works for me.

Maybe because i still have the original rom.


yes, GPS woks fine with original orange rom

[Teckynou]

Good Job my friend...


:http://rapidshare.com/files/144442103/HtcGpsUpdate_with_MUI.cab


I don't try it? and you?
do this cab makes GPS working with a different rom than orange

[Teckynou]

I try the cab with poldo's rom and IGO8.... still doesn't work with my pharos from orange....

[nail_them]

H i i've got the same problem . I have changed the Rom and my GPS isnot working , neither with Miomap neither TOMTOM.
Can Anyone help with this one ??

[lamouche76]

Bonjour j'ai un HTC touch p3470 de chez Orange
Version ROM 1.15.73.2. FRE
Date de la Rom 01/29/08
Version Radio 03.18.90
version de protocole 4.1.13.60

Impossible de faire fonctionne Tomtom navigateur
pas d'appareil GPS

j'ai essayer les differentes version de config sur le forum
toujours pareil pas de GPS

Merci pour une solution

[nail_them]

Hi
Problem is solver for me and maybe for some of You too. I'm using Miomap and TomTom so far I have managed to use it on Miomap.
The devil is in details.

In windows: Go to Setting -> Connections -> External GPS

Hardware : com4
Software : com2
Freq : 4800
Last Tab must be ticked.

Next -> goto Your navigation program - settings -> GPS Setting and make the same configuration ( using NMEA). GPS in automatic configuration won't be found but if You set it on manually it WILL work. Leave -> restart and Use it :)

Good Luck

[Teckynou]

which rom are you using?
for me, this setting doesn't work with a non orange rom on my aroange pharos

[high_ligh]

Même version et même problème que lamouche. Que faire?

[lamouche76]

Enfin trouve la solution pour faire fonctionner Tomtom 7
Instaler le petit logiciel GPSgate
Ca marche maitenant tres bien depuis

Voici le lien
http://rapidshare.com/files/119161568/GpsGatePPC.ARM.CAB


la cle d'enregidtrement
CapriQWy

[high_ligh]

Comment as tu paramétrer ? Le gpsgate doit être en permanence ouvert pour que le port reste ouvert, là il marque en attente d'un signal gps valide donc c'est déjà beaucoup mieux. Je te tiens au courant de l'avancement.


Ajout:
Voilà cela fonctionne mais je dois toujours laisser gpsgate lorsque je lance tomtom, sinon il coupe.

[samcargo]

Mais comment effectuer le paramètrage?

[high_ligh]

Dans settings choisir le com4 et open. Faut toujours laisser le logiciel lancer. Le logo doit être jaune ou vert mais pas rouge, sinon cela sert à rien de lancer tomtom. C'est une solution alternative. J'essaye de trouver mieux.

[samcargo]

I think TOMTOM will work with GPSGate but only under an Orange Original ROM
Anything else forget your GPS.

Thanks to all

Je pense que TOMTOM marche avec GPSGate mais uniquement sous une ROM Orange, toute autre ROM et on peu dire byebye au GPS pas moyen qu'il fonctionne.

Merci à tous

[poldo964]

cheking .provxml files in the orange ROM i've found this registry entries:

<!-- AGPS F/W-->
<characteristic type="Registry">
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\SUPL AGPS">
<parm name="EnableAGPS" datatype="integer" value="1"/>
<parm name="ServerIP" datatype="string" value="194.51.71.139"/>
<parm name="ServerPort" datatype="string" value="7275"/>
<parm name="ServerURL" datatype="string" value="agpss.orange.fr"/>
<parm name="EnableTLS" datatype="integer" value="1"/>
<parm name="Network" datatype="string" value="Orange World"/>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>


so it seems that orange ROM uses aGPS function..
Anyone can confirm ?
In my ROMs there are not these entries and i think in tom codon's ROM too..
Maybe it could be the right way to solve this strange issue... :cool:

bye:)

[R1tintin]

Bonjour à tous,
Tépéphone acheté le 20/09/08 chez Orange.

Configuration GPS externe
programmes : COM4
matériel : COM2 4800 bauds
accès : cocher gérerGPS automatiquement


Pour ma part j'ai installé GPS Utilities (dispo ici http://www.clubic.com/telecharger-fiche89550-gps-utilities-pour-pocket-pc.html)

Je l'ai configuré sur COM4 4800 bauds

Et après le lance TOMTOM6. Configuration GPS Autres NMEA GPS 4800 bauds sur COM4

Et là ça marche nickel.

voila les infos de mon téléphone :
ONBL 1.15.0000
SPL 1.15.0000
GSM 03.18.90
OS 1.15.0.0

[Teckynou]

cheking .provxml files in the orange ROM i've found this registry entries:

<!-- AGPS F/W-->
<characteristic type="Registry">
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\SUPL AGPS">
<parm name="EnableAGPS" datatype="integer" value="1"/>
<parm name="ServerIP" datatype="string" value="194.51.71.139"/>
<parm name="ServerPort" datatype="string" value="7275"/>
<parm name="ServerURL" datatype="string" value="agpss.orange.fr"/>
<parm name="EnableTLS" datatype="integer" value="1"/>
<parm name="Network" datatype="string" value="Orange World"/>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>


so it seems that orange ROM uses aGPS function..
Anyone can confirm ?
In my ROMs there are not these entries and i think in tom codon's ROM too..
Maybe it could be the right way to solve this strange issue... :cool:

bye:)


Hi Poldo. thanks to give us some help.

I'm going to summarize the problem :

Rom Orange + radio 03.18.90 : nedd GPSgate or somethink else
Rom orange + radio 03.15.90 : Works
GUIGOU's rom xith OEM form orange rom + radio 03.15.90 : Works
Other rom + radio 03.15.90 : doesn't work (don't try with GPSgate at this time)

because with official HTC rom it dosn't work, I think there is a different hardware in Orange's Pharos, and so, different Driver.

Orange rom use Agps. but I don't think it's could solve the probleme : i already use my GPS without the AGPS (AGPS desactivate with Avanced configuration), and it works.

If you have dumped an Orange rom. look into the OEMDrivers Folder. I find some differences in GPSID Driver and SerialGPS driver. You could also see HTCGPSUpdate... I don't know what it is, but it is only in Orange rom.
So, I try to build a rom, From Guigou's WM6.1, with the OEMDrivers folder from the Orange Rom.... maybe i've made a mistake when i build my rom, but it doesn't work : Windows stop on the WM6.1 Green Screen at first boot.

I really think the Driver is different...
Do you relly think AGPS is the answer? Maybe Orange GPS Driver need AGPS setting in Registery in order to work...


what do you think about that?

Here is my MSN if you need to talk : teckynou@hotmail.com

[high_ligh]

Bonjour à tous,
Tépéphone acheté le 20/09/08 chez Orange.

Configuration GPS externe
programmes : COM4
matériel : COM2 4800 bauds
accès : cocher gérerGPS automatiquement


Pour ma part j'ai installé GPS Utilities (dispo ici http://www.clubic.com/telecharger-fiche89550-gps-utilities-pour-pocket-pc.html)

Je l'ai configuré sur COM4 4800 bauds

Et après le lance TOMTOM6. Configuration GPS Autres NMEA GPS 4800 bauds sur COM4

Et là ça marche nickel.

voila les infos de mon téléphone :
ONBL 1.15.0000
SPL 1.15.0000
GSM 03.18.90
OS 1.15.0.0

Parfait merci.

[samcargo]

Very Good Summary indeed. Any non orange ROM and the GPS won't work.
I think the firmware is different or as you say the driver is different.

Hi Poldo. thanks to give us some help.

I'm going to summarize the problem :

Rom Orange + radio 03.18.90 : nedd GPSgate or somethink else
Rom orange + radio 03.15.90 : Works
GUIGOU's rom xith OEM form orange rom + radio 03.15.90 : Works
Other rom + radio 03.15.90 : doesn't work (don't try with GPSgate at this time)

because with official HTC rom it dosn't work, I think there is a different hardware in Orange's Pharos, and so, different Driver.

Orange rom use Agps. but I don't think it's could solve the probleme : i already use my GPS without the AGPS (AGPS desactivate with Avanced configuration), and it works.

If you have dumped an Orange rom. look into the OEMDrivers Folder. I find some differences in GPSID Driver and SerialGPS driver. You could also see HTCGPSUpdate... I don't know what it is, but it is only in Orange rom.
So, I try to build a rom, From Guigou's WM6.1, with the OEMDrivers folder from the Orange Rom.... maybe i've made a mistake when i build my rom, but it doesn't work : Windows stop on the WM6.1 Green Screen at first boot.

I really think the Driver is different...
Do you relly think AGPS is the answer? Maybe Orange GPS Driver need AGPS setting in Registery in order to work...


what do you think about that?

Here is my MSN if you need to talk : teckynou@hotmail.com

[samcargo]

Read this very intresting: GPS vs AGPS

http://wmexperts.com/articles/gps_vs_agps_a_quick_tutorial.html

[samcargo]

A Free License AGPS Utility

http://www.mayjie.com.tw/ltd/p/gt-750f/SkyTraq_PPC_Setup.exe

The User manual

http://www.mayjie.com.tw/ltd/p/gt-750f/AGPS_User_Manual_PPC.pdf

[Teckynou]

Nice description of AGPS
but it confirm my first opinion : AGPS is not the issue for our probleme.

[Anneke]

After samsung omnia i900 with terrrible GPS I bought a htc 3470. I used my old tomtom navigator6 ( actived again by tt) and sometimes igo 8. Both works very well.
First go to start/conf./system/externe GPS : set software on com4, hardware on none. In tomtom : other nmea 4800 baud com 4. In igo choose com 4.
I stick with HTC after 1 side step to samsung.

[samcargo]

Dear Anneke,

Thank you but it does not work on ORANGE sold Pharos.
Ok? Any other HTC 3470 sold by non ORANGE operator it will work.

Thank you for sharing with us your experience.

[tonypace]

samcargo, don't be so sure. I have an unbranded one from Taiwan, flashed with the poldo manila opal rom, and I am having the same difficulties. If the software ports are set to the same in external GPS setting and in the software (google Maps), the light will blink and it will say it is seeking satellites, but will never find them. any other settings and it will complain about no gps hardware. Setting the hardware port to com2 or none makes no difference.

[samcargo]

Very intresting info. Thank you.

[tonypace]

Finally got it working on my phone. In External GPS settings, set Hardware to COM4, 4800 baud. Soft port to COM5, allow windows to manage. Set your mapping soft to match.

Then, - and this was the part that screwed me up - go outside and WAIT. Wait a while. Wait longer than you should have to. It took my phone about 10 minutes to lock on to satellites - but once it locked on it was fast regaining them, even after a power cycle. I used visual GPS CE, which shows you the individual satellites and signal strength.

I have no idea if this will work on the Orange hardware - perhaps not. But some people have said that QuickGPS was setting them way off the right track. One bad tower location in the database and it's sending you the satellite signals for Spain.

[yannix63]

bonjous a tous, il s'avere que j'ai la mauvaise rom et donc impossible d'installer tomtom sans GPS Gate d'après vos dire
mais comment on configure GPS Gate ???

[Nuno Brito]

I've just bought one of these good looking machines at a good price only to discover the same GPS woes.

Reading the comments on this discussion I did exactly as tonypace described on the his previous post.

I only changed the Software Com port to Com5 and adjusted my GPS program to read from there.

The GPS program used to debug the satellite data was "GPS Utilities" and it took about 10~20 minutes to get all needed info.

---

My Pharos was acquired in Portugal and it's unbranded from any phone operator.

[lamorosogigi]

Bonjour

Je viens d'acheter un Paros 600E avec Ostia comme soft intégré pour le Gps.
Ca fonctionne bien, mais je préfére tomtom7.
Par contre quand je lance tomtom 7 il ne reconnait pas le GPS.
Quelqu'un a une solution?

merci de votre aide

[Teckynou]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3132593&postcount=112
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3132810&postcount=115
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3132992&postcount=116


Now we can continu here ;)

[Preskovitch]

To continue the discussion with Poldo and Teckynou... I've installed both cab on my pharos (with manila v11) but still no GPS. The only difference i found is an error message when restarting the device (appears when "dialing" the pin number). However the device works as normal when the pin dialed...

Before installing the manila ROM i used the ROM "released" by Ilkeny (post of 03/09/08) :
http://rapidshare.com/files/142359641/ROM_FRENCH_ORANGE.rar

GPS:active

Date de rom:01/29/08
Version de rom:1.13.73.1
Version de radio:03.15.90

The GPS worked well...If it can help...:confused:

[poldo964]

can anyone share the official orange france ROM?

[dafunky]

Sorry, as Orange FR didn't release any ROM update for the Pharos, it seems difficult to find an official Orange ROM.

The rapidshare link you can see above is a patched ROM

If you explain me how to extract this ROM from my stock Orange Pharos, then I'll share it.

Thank you by advance for your work, I'm fan of tf2d and very interested in upgrading to wm 6.1

[poldo964]

just follow this wiki (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=PHAROS%20Dump%20Process) until you obtain "part02.raw" and share it

[dafunky]

It's done, will be uploaded tonight :o

[Teckynou]

here is mine, dumped few mounth ago.
the "Orange" rom that we can found on this site have been made from this dump.

http://rapidshare.com/files/182542754/part02.raw.html

[poldo964]

downloading...
thanks

[poldo964]

i've made a quick check of the official orange rom (registry and provisioning)and i've found some entries (certificates and serialGPS) that are not included in my ROMs. It seems that there are not special apps for gps (except HTCGpsUpdate mentioned some posts above).
I've created two cabs that install some reg keys and certificates.
I cannot test, i need someone with an orange device that tests these patches


Flash a NON orange ROM
Install the two cabs and restart

[Preskovitch]

I've installed both files. It doesn't solve the problem. On Tomtom i still have the "No GPS device" message. Can somebody else confirm ?

[poldo964]

do you have installed HTCGpsUpdate (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433040&page=11) (post 109) too?

[Preskovitch]

Yes I installed the two previous files too

[dafunky]

On Tomtom i still have the "No GPS device" message. Can somebody else confirm ?

I'm sorry but nowadays I can't hard reset my device...
At least Preskovitch should try to launch the official "Orange Navigation" software, to check that the GPS can be activated.

Anyway, Poldo, do you think it would be possible for you to patch the working french orange ROM in order to include WM6.1 update and Manila 2D?

Preskovitch, si tu est encore avec la ROM de poldo, pourrais-tu essayer d'installer le logiciel Orange Navigation (http://prof.estat.com/cgi-bin/ft/294094119786?class=GPS_Logiciel&page=GPS_soft_HTCP3470&type=40&estat_url=http%3A%2F%2Fanimation.orange.fr/gps/soft/V8_qvga_HTC_TyTN_2/Orange_Navigation_7.8.9_fr_WM6Pro_qvga.exe), de le lancer et de voir s'il active bien le GPS et capte un signal?

[Teckynou]

it doesn't work for me too.

I think it is not only the registers which are different, Drivers are too. Take a look at OEM/OEMDriver/SerialGPS, and other folder dealing with GPS. Version number are different.

[poldo964]

Teckynou
Preskovitch

check your PM

[krystoon]

hello everybody.
Maybe you could check Agps registry key and cab in Orange rom because it's missing in poldo rom. When I run Tomtom in Orange rom, Tomtom doesn't detect GPS before Agps Update and after Agps Update, GPS is automaticly detected and used by Tomtom.

krystoon

bon je suis français, Teckynou et Preskovitch si vous souhaité discuter en français c'est open pour moi.

[servelle]

did somebody succeed in making working gps on non Orange ROM with the two cabs proposed by poldo ?

[mihainv22]

did somebody succeed in making working gps on non Orange ROM with the two cabs proposed by poldo ?

i use garmin xt 5.00.20w on my pharos traveler m619 with unbranding ROM. igo 8.3 or 8.4 doesnt work with internal GPS, even i´we configured manualy for com and baud in sys.txt. it seems is an port conflict. garmin xt work good, but is quite slow in drawing map (413Mb with pois included) in overzoom (30m).

[servelle]

did somebody succeed in making working gps on non Orange ROM with the two cabs proposed by poldo ?

i tried the cabs and it doesn't work ...

[bbk]

i tried the cabs and it doesn't work ...

I've received my pharos yesterday, i've installed the last 2 cabs, and it doesn't work, have you a solution ?
I've a PHAR100
ONPL 1.15.0000
SPL 1.11Mobiz
GSM 3.37.90
OS 2.5.0.0

WM 6.5 Build 23003

[bbk]

I'm tried ONPL & SPL 2.05.0000, but no GPS, the GPS activation is in the Orange ROM