Raphael Issues List:

[Syphon Filter]

Right, I can't see an Issues list for this device yet so I'll start one:

1. A couple of times now, I've left my phone to charge overnight and woke up to an unresponsive device. Power button does nothing, screen is off and only way to get it device back up and running is to poke the soft-reset button OR remove and reinsert the battery.

2. Unresponsive buttons: every now and then the "right" button of the D-Pad does nothing, then suddenly it will start working again, same with the "Back" button though much more infrequent/noticable than the D-Pad issue I've experienced.

[WatskeBart]

I did not expierence the first problem with the charging issue.

To close and app you can use the (arrow pointing left) key but sometimes i have to push it like 3 or 4 times before it respond.

Same with the touchscreen but i fixed that by increasing the touchpad sensitivity with a regedit.

[weehappypixie]

My device has reset a few times while I been reading email or texts.

John

[Kraize]

Guys. The whole phone besides the keyboard is touch sensitive. So the whole front keys and touchscreen. Increase sensitivity and it should work fine.

[Syphon Filter]

Guys. The whole phone besides the keyboard is touch sensitive. So the whole front keys and touchscreen. Increase sensitivity and it should work fine.

Erm, I'm sorry but that's not right is it. The D-Pad, Send, End, Home and Back buttons are actual buttons as opposed to touch sensitive.

The zoom wheel is obviously a "touch" area too. The issue I am descriping seems to suggest that the switches might be a bit flakey rather than anything else.

[pazookie]

no he is right all the buttons are PRESSURE (he said touch) sensitive..when they unvieled the diamond the ceo of htc demonstrated that the keys are pressure sensitie and even the cameria button can SENSE when your finger is approaching to ready the zoom ..here is the youtube vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTd3SUPSJsMit

[Kraize]

no he is right all the buttons are PRESSURE (he said touch) sensitive..when they unvieled the diamond the ceo of htc demonstrated that the keys are pressure sensitie and even the cameria button can SENSE when your finger is approaching to ready the zoom ..here is the youtube vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTd3SUPSJsMit

Sorry my bad. WM phones used to be called touch sensitve but in reality they're pressure sensitive. The only touch sensitive phones out currently are the iPhones and the Omni I would say.

Erm, I'm sorry but that's not right is it. The D-Pad, Send, End, Home and Back buttons are actual buttons as opposed to touch sensitive.

The zoom wheel is obviously a "touch" area too. The issue I am descriping seems to suggest that the switches might be a bit flakey rather than anything else.

If the were actual buttons they would be capable of being pushed in which it's not possible to do :)

[nolovelust]

Issues:

HTC task man doesnt work properly.
Poor reception
Too many startup apps/services put on by htc to provide touch interface (which i hate)

why on eart you use operaloder on phones stratup just to get 2-3 more seconds fast load time for opera.

i think htc just over done this touch crap.

could anoyone access setupfiles on rom so i can use plain wm6.1

[Syphon Filter]

If the were actual buttons they would be capable of being pushed in which it's not possible to do :)



Hang on, you clearly don't own either Touch Pro or a Diamond, the D-Pad, Call, End, Home and Back buttons CAN BE PUSHED IN. They are actual buttons.

[Kraize]

Hang on, you clearly don't own either Touch Pro or a Diamond, the D-Pad, Call, End, Home and Back buttons CAN BE PUSHED IN. They are actual buttons.

No. I'm sure of it. I have demoed both a touch pro and a diamond. I meant that they CANNOT be pushed in as you can on the kaiser. I know this for a fact and on every video you will see that it is mentioned as a pressure sensitive all around except for the keyboard. I'm sure of that. They are not real buttons. I guess you could push it in if it's just a piece of glass and paper underneath the actual pressure sensitive touchpad, but it wouldn't make it real buttons. I know what I'm talking about :) Unless HTC suddenly decided to make them real buttons which would kill their profits so I'm assuming that they wouldn't do that either. I demoed it about 2-3 weeks ago.

[sub69]

Right, I can't see an Issues list for this device yet so I'll start one:

1. A couple of times now, I've left my phone to charge overnight and woke up to an unresponsive device. Power button does nothing, screen is off and only way to get it device back up and running is to poke the soft-reset button OR remove and reinsert the battery.

2. Unresponsive buttons: every now and then the "right" button of the D-Pad does nothing, then suddenly it will start working again, same with the "Back" button though much more infrequent/noticable than the D-Pad issue I've experienced.

1 - Not had that problem - hopefully that'll go after your next hard reset or ROM update - these damn things always have, and always will behave differently for different people, it seems!

2 - My Back button missed my press once or twice, but I think it's more of a hardware issue than a software issue though (or possibly user error!). I'll tell you now though, hitting the "Right" button on my Diamond was next to impossible. It was extremely stiff, and would eventually register as a press on the "Hang Up" button. Drove me absolutely mental! But I think I was the only Diamond user who had that problem, and my Raphael is fine.

[ardsar]

having got one in my hand - they are tactile push bottons - i.e you push them until it clicks before an action happens.

[Kraize]

having got one in my hand - they are tactile push bottons - i.e you push them until it clicks before an action happens.

Then I must be crazy. Since all I have to do is touch the button and a action happens. But my pressure threshold is very high.

[Syphon Filter]

No. I'm sure of it. I have demoed both a touch pro and a diamond. I meant that they CANNOT be pushed in as you can on the kaiser. I know this for a fact and on every video you will see that it is mentioned as a pressure sensitive all around except for the keyboard. I'm sure of that. They are not real buttons. I guess you could push it in if it's just a piece of glass and paper underneath the actual pressure sensitive touchpad, but it wouldn't make it real buttons. I know what I'm talking about :) Unless HTC suddenly decided to make them real buttons which would kill their profits so I'm assuming that they wouldn't do that either. I demoed it about 2-3 weeks ago.

I'm not going to get into an argument over this but the 9 buttons (Home, Back, Call, End, Up, Down, Left, Right and the centre of the D-Pad) on the face of the Diamond and the Touch Pro are buttons which have a tactile feedback, a press will not register until you "feel" the button pressed. The only thing in that area that is a "touch sensitive" thing is the zoom wheel.

Just because the area looks flush does not mean they are not buttons. There's a single piece of material that covers that area but I can assure you there are individual switches under there that provide a tactile feedback. You HAVE to feel that feedback for the button to do anything, simply touching it will have no effect unless you are using the zoom wheel functionality.

If you believe anything else you are wrong.

[Syphon Filter]

Then I must be crazy. Since all I have to do is touch the button and a action happens. But my pressure threshold is very high.

1. What do you mean "my pressure threshold is very high"? Are you talking about the registry settings?

2. I thought you didnt have a Touch Pro or Diamond?

[Kraize]

I said I didn't own one. Doesn't mean I don't have one in hand right now ;) I have family members and friends that work for HTC america and AT&T.

Yeah. Registry settings/Advance Config for diamond

[Syphon Filter]

I said I didn't own one. Doesn't mean I don't have one in hand right now ;) I have family members and friends that work for HTC america and AT&T.

Yeah. Registry settings/Advance Config for diamond

Yes. Ok.

Anyway, so you're saying that device you have in your hand right now has no tactile feedback on the front face buttons?

If have insiders at HTC why did you ask for donations so you could get a Touch Pro in the other thread?

[Kraize]

Yes. Ok.

Anyway, so you're saying that device you have in your hand right now has no tactile feedback on the front face buttons?

EDIT: Okay. Maybe I'm mistaken. It's only the d-pad that's pressure sensitive. The buttons are tactile even though they feel as if they are pressure sensitive because I don't push into it like I did with the front face buttons on my kaiser.

[Syphon Filter]

ah, you've seen the light. The button DOES push in but the panel is one solid "sheet" that covers all the buttons.

The "wheel" is the only touch sensitive bit. The 5 navigation functions of the d-pad (up down left right select) are all tactile buttons that work off little switches.

[Kraize]

ah, you've seen the light. The button DOES push in but the panel is one solid "sheet" that covers all the buttons.

Actually. I should show you the light :rolleyes: I'm right.

[Link] (http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49534)

Click number 3 and read this caption: "Swipe your finger across the screen to scroll through contracts, zoom, and pan web pages, browse your music library, and more, or press the touch-sensitive buttons to navigate and control your phone."

So concluding to that original fact that I was indeed right :)

[Syphon Filter]

Actually. I should show you the light :rolleyes: I'm right.

[Link] (http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49534)

Click number 3 and read this caption: "Swipe your finger across the screen to scroll through contracts, zoom, and pan web pages, browse your music library, and more, or press the touch-sensitive buttons to navigate and control your phone."

So concluding to that original fact that I was indeed right :)

Advertisting/marketing copy does not a fact make. You are not right, the buttons are not touch sensitive in the sense you are talking about. Of course they do need to be touched for them to work though.

Someone needs to do a teardown the device then I could put this to bed once and for all.

[mike freegan]

Not to fan the flames, BUT. I haven't yet touched a daimond or raphael, but I have been reading about the raphael for months, and almost every website described them as touch sensitive. I was shocked to see a video where they appeared tactile. I'm sure the earlier ones were touch only.

I'm glad they're tactile as I prefer tactile feedback on hardware buttons.

[Kraize]

Advertisting/marketing copy does not a fact make. You are not right, the buttons are not touch sensitive in the sense you are talking about. Of course they do need to be touched for them to work though.

Someone needs to do a teardown the device then I could put this to bed once and for all.

You can't put it to bed :rolleyes: because they are touch-sensitive. not in the sense of being tactile. But in the sense of being pressure buttons. Oh and btw. If I go with the theory that it's a single glass panel that works, it wouldn't work. Because if you push in the panel on one side, the whole panel would move thus causing instability. This would kill the design because the glass would pop out of the corner every time on the opposite end, unless it's some kind of miracle bending futuristic glass which I highly doubt. So I'll stick to my theory that they're touch sensitive otherwise each button would have a separate space and it wouldn't be one single glass panel.

Kraize

[Kraize]

Not to fan the flames, BUT. I haven't yet touched a daimond or raphael, but I have been reading about the raphael for months, and almost every website described them as touch sensitive. I was shocked to see a video where they appeared tactile. I'm sure the earlier ones were touch only.

I'm glad they're tactile as I prefer tactile feedback on hardware buttons.

Want to point me to that video? Because no sane person would make 4 tactile buttons under the same 1 panel because of common physics. The screen would be pushed in at one corner and would tilt up on the other corner. Or if HTC glued it enough it wouldn't for the first month or so and then start to come out.

EDIT: I attached a horrible mspaint rendering if you didn't get what I meant.

[TheBundo]

This no longer seems to be an issues thread

[Kraize]

This no longer seems to be an issues thread

Actually tactile vs pressure sensitive is a big issue for me and a dealbreaker. I would feel ripped off if it is advertised as pressure sensitive and is really tactile as some say.

[mike freegan]

Man, people on here who own the device are telling you that they push until they click!

I would be pleasently surprised if they're tactile, but I understand why some people may be annoyed as they are advertised as touch sensitive.

I'm pretty sure you can hear it here at 7 seconds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pZdVcky0lE

Also, it looks to me like the screen and buttons are not covered by one piece of plexiglass.

[TheBundo]

Definitely clicks at 7 secs

[Syphon Filter]

You can't put it to bed :rolleyes: because they are touch-sensitive. not in the sense of being tactile. But in the sense of being pressure buttons. Oh and btw. If I go with the theory that it's a single glass panel that works, it wouldn't work. Because if you push in the panel on one side, the whole panel would move thus causing instability. This would kill the design because the glass would pop out of the corner every time on the opposite end, unless it's some kind of miracle bending futuristic glass which I highly doubt. So I'll stick to my theory that they're touch sensitive otherwise each button would have a separate space and it wouldn't be one single glass panel.

Kraize


Want to point me to that video? Because no sane person would make 4 tactile buttons under the same 1 panel because of common physics. The screen would be pushed in at one corner and would tilt up on the other corner. Or if HTC glued it enough it wouldn't for the first month or so and then start to come out.

EDIT: I attached a horrible mspaint rendering if you didn't get what I meant.

Right, you've really highlighted your own ignorance here. The bottom section of the touch pro and the diamond are NOT MADE OF GLASS. It's a flexible material (I'm assuming some kind of plastic). The mechanical switches are set under this flexible sheet and when you PRESS the various areas (ie. Home/Back/Call/End/Up/Down/Left/Right) this sheet deforms in the area you are pressing allowing the mechanical switch/button to be operated.

I don't think you could possibly have used either device if you seriously think what you are saying is correct.

[h4waii]

@Kraize92;

You are a clown of the biggest magnitude. They are physical buttons that require contact pads to...make contact to registry a key press.

This would kill the design because the glass would pop out of the corner every time on the opposite end, unless it's some kind of miracle bending futuristic glass which I highly doubt. So I'll stick to my theory that they're touch sensitive otherwise each button would have a separate space and it wouldn't be one single glass panel.

Your theory is 100% incorrect, idiotic and your ignorance is even worse. Have you ever heard of acrylic glass? There are numerous materials that can be used for this that will allow enough flex for 2 contact points to meet.

[TheBundo]

An easy test would be to turn off the device, take out the battery, and see if it still "clicks". That way it would eliminate the possibility of any electronically created feedback.

[kempas]

There is a Touch Pro in front of me and the front buttons are definately buttons.

The top material flexes in the four corner positions in order to depress the dome switch underneath.

They are physical, mechanical switches. END OF STORY...

[Kraize]

....I'll guess I'll go straight to disassembling the Touch Pro and we'll find out and I think my ignorance/knowledge is plenty saying I'm only 15 =/ You guys flame so much. I see it as a pressure sensitive button. I can't beleive anything anyone says until I see it physically. So I guess I'll pry open a test model when I get my hands on one. No actually never heard of acryilc glass =/ Maybe the test model is just different....but I'm still prying it open when I can.

[ukdj78]

There is a Touch Pro in front of me and the front buttons are definately buttons.

The top material flexes in the four corner positions in order to depress the dome switch underneath.

They are physical, mechanical switches. END OF STORY...

I agree totally Kempas, mine's the same. Seeing as Kraize is in America maybe it's one of the differences between the US and European versions?

[Kraize]

I agree totally Kempas, mine's the same. Seeing as Kraize is in America maybe it's one of the differences between the US and European versions?

Hmm. No. HTC isn't stupid enough to change that. When I get a real unit I'll test it out. As of now, I have a un-released test unit. Not the pre-release. A test unit. Maybe you people just think I'm stupid or whatever, but the phone that I had a couple minutes ago =/ was the same material as the touchscreen glass. It was pressure sensitive. I'll get a current unit and see. You guys call it ignorance, but maybe it's just different. It's like telling a kaiser user that the housing is gray and he has a silver housing and you all flame at him because you think it's totally impossible..

[kempas]

It is the same material as covering the main screen except it requires a force to deform/bend that material enough to depress a mechanical and physical switch beneath that material.

If you are referring to that action as 'touch sensitive' then yes, can you just lightly press your finger over the buttons and they react, no - and they wont unless you depress the plastic enough to likewise depress the switch (possibly a mini dome contact) beneath.

[Kraize]

It is the same material as covering the main screen except it requires a force to deform/bend that material enough to depress a mechanical and physical switch beneath that material.

If you are referring to that action as 'touch sensitive' then yes, can you just lightly press your finger over the buttons and they react, no - and they wont unless you depress the plastic enough to likewise depress the switch (possibly a mini dome contact) beneath.

So I'm guessing then the touch pro is very scratch attractive then if it's plastic.

[trinode]

Hopefully this will settle the arguement...

download the tool and see.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416334

post 2 onwards
(NavDbgTool.exe)

- Anthony

[Kraize]

Hopefully this will settle the arguement...

download the tool and see.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416334

post 2 onwards

- Anthony

And see what? Sorry. I read the thread and I don't get why you recommended that. Maybe I missed something?

[TheBundo]

Looks like it both - touch sensitive AND has switches ???

[Bxsteez]

I wish i could remember where i saw it but one of these videos or reviews spefically said that from the look of the device you would think these buttons are touch sensitive but they actually have tactile feedback. I can't find it though.. :(

[TheBundo]

Following links in that thread, there is the Diamond manual. It appears it may be able to be programmed for multi-touch in the lower part, but there are switches as well

[Kraize]

Oh. I guess being sick just made me stupid/ignorant today.

[Black93300ZX]

Right, I can't see an Issues list for this device yet so I'll start one:

1. A couple of times now, I've left my phone to charge overnight and woke up to an unresponsive device. Power button does nothing, screen is off and only way to get it device back up and running is to poke the soft-reset button OR remove and reinsert the battery.

Never had this happen, weird... Possibly defective? Not sure.

2. Unresponsive buttons: every now and then the "right" button of the D-Pad does nothing, then suddenly it will start working again, same with the "Back" button though much more infrequent/noticable than the D-Pad issue I've experienced.

Once again, never had it happen... :\

[Black93300ZX]

If the were actual buttons they would be capable of being pushed in which it's not possible to do :)

Really? As I sit here, pushing in my send/end/home/back/center/right/left/up/down buttons, I seem to think you're wrong. You can push them in, and they click, like a button. Sorry, but unless you're holding the device in your hand, you can't say a word about things like this. To use the D-pad and send/end/home/back keys, you must press them down. For the camera focus, yes, the center button requires less pressure... Then a full click takes the picture. PLEASE don't talk out of ignorance, it's posts like this that confuse new users and make them ask more questions.

[Black93300ZX]

Actually. I should show you the light :rolleyes: I'm right.

[Link] (http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49534)

Click number 3 and read this caption: "Swipe your finger across the screen to scroll through contracts, zoom, and pan web pages, browse your music library, and more, or press the touch-sensitive buttons to navigate and control your phone."

So concluding to that original fact that I was indeed right :)

No one cares what your little link says, I'm holding the phone in my hands right now. If I simply TAP the d-pad or TAP the call end key it does no action whatsoever, I must press down until they click. Just shut up.

[Black93300ZX]

Just recorded a video to put this to bed, where 15 year olds should be at this time anyways.

http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/The300ZX/?action=view&current=MVI_0251.flv

[briggs81]

If I go with the theory that it's a single glass panel that works, it wouldn't work. Because if you push in the panel on one side, the whole panel would move thus causing instability. This would kill the design because the glass would pop out of the corner every time on the opposite end, unless it's some kind of miracle bending futuristic glass which I highly doubt.
Kraize

Not glass, but the cruise does it just fine, with one sheet of material for all 4 hard buttons.

[Bxsteez]

Just recorded a video to put this to bed, where 15 year olds should be at this time anyways.

http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/The300ZX/?action=view&current=MVI_0251.flv

Nice!! I was waiting for someone to do that lol..

[neva dinova]

this may have been covered somewhere already but how is video playback on this device

[Black93300ZX]

this may have been covered somewhere already but how is video playback on this device

Stunning, the screen is smaller than the iPhone but the resolution makes up for it. I tested SlingBox tonight, and on 3G and wifi it's smooth as butter both ways. Also, the slingbox was located in west coast canada, while i'm located east coast US, so it's as far away as it gets... And neither of us have an amazing connection.

[ekerbuddyeker]

this is the worst 'issues' thread i have read in a long time. its like the early days of treoCentral. The 'issues' here seem to be personal.

[Black93300ZX]

this is the worst 'issues' thread i have read in a long time. its like the early days of treoCentral. The 'issues' here seem to be personal.

I'm terribly insecure with my phone knowledge, please recommend a counselor

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[ekerbuddyeker]

I'm terribly insecure with my phone knowledge, please recommend a counselor

:\

i suggest you go back to a Palm V. Actually that was a great device.

[trinode]

And see what? Sorry. I read the thread and I don't get why you recommended that. Maybe I missed something?

That the lower part of the device is touch sensitive, as well as has buttons.

HTC have never been known to include hardware and not enable it have they?

GPS on one handset wasn't enabled....
kaiser has 3d hardware, but that's not enabled...


The diagnostic software lets you test the touch area, and see that the phone knows where your fingers are, even if it's not programmed to do anything about it unless pressed (and pressing the button switches below).

Familiar the iPod click wheel? That's touch sensitive AND hardware buttons, the two are NOT mutually exclusive.

I'll give it a go on tuesday or wednesday when it arrives and prove it either way

[rb14]

And let's get back on-topic shall we? If you want to discuss your buttons' touchiness, go and do it somewhere else.

I don't like that if I use the letters popping out of an envelope to view my emails, they're not marked as read. I actually have to press each "letter" and bring it up as an email to alter the read status. Worse, there's no way to see which emails are unread unless I view the whole of my Inbox.

[thianlim]

This may be interesting. Am I correct when i say the D-Pad is part of the home, back, end and send buttons? So when you would press left, right, up, or down you might press these buttons as well. So maybe the phone knows you are pressing the D-Pad buttons because it knows where your finger is located? This is pretty cool if this is the case, because I was wondering how you could press these D-Pad buttons, or does the surface of these buttons just flex enough for it to not activate the home buttons etc. and have individual hardware switches for the D-Pad?

[Black93300ZX]

And let's get back on-topic shall we? If you want to discuss your buttons' touchiness, go and do it somewhere else.

I don't like that if I use the letters popping out of an envelope to view my emails, they're not marked as read. I actually have to press each "letter" and bring it up as an email to alter the read status. Worse, there's no way to see which emails are unread unless I view the whole of my Inbox.

Don't tap the envelope, tap inbox on the bottom left... When it shows your whole inbox click to highlight the first message and drag down, highlights many messages at a time... Then select Mark as Read. Nice and easy, you can mark your entire inbox if you like.

[rb14]

Don't tap the envelope, tap inbox on the bottom left... When it shows your whole inbox click to highlight the first message and drag down, highlights many messages at a time... Then select Mark as Read. Nice and easy, you can mark your entire inbox if you like.

Yeah, thanks for that, I knew about it anyway. The annoying bit is that when I'm using the "letters popping out of the envelope" to scroll through emails, I am actually reading them. I just wish the TouchPro would recognise that fact and change the little green number which denotes that I haven't read them.

[Syphon Filter]

Right, I can't see an Issues list for this device yet so I'll start one:

1. A couple of times now, I've left my phone to charge overnight and woke up to an unresponsive device. Power button does nothing, screen is off and only way to get it device back up and running is to poke the soft-reset button OR remove and reinsert the battery.

Never had this happen, weird... Possibly defective? Not sure.

2. Unresponsive buttons: every now and then the "right" button of the D-Pad does nothing, then suddenly it will start working again, same with the "Back" button though much more infrequent/noticable than the D-Pad issue I've experienced.

Once again, never had it happen... :\

Right,

regarding issue

1. It hasn't happened again, wondering if it was "one of those things".

2. Regarding this button issue I was experiencing. I'm starting to think there isn't an issue and more that I'm just pushing in slightly the wrong place when my presses dont register.


Also regardin this topic going off thread, i do accept some responsibilty for that but I cannot remain silent in the face of blatant ignorance.

[Black93300ZX]

Well, I bet you I have a problem that no other Touch Pro owner in the world has.

The Push To Talk button.

Shitty location, right under the volume rocker, I push it all the time.

And when I do... "Charges will apply. Initialize push to talk?" Yes/No

It's $9.99 a month, I don't want it, I want it to GO AWAY but even looking through the registry I don't see anything I can do to get rid of it. Found the entry in the registry, changed a few 1's to 0's (kidding but not really)... Still nothin.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/The300ZX/StupidPTT.jpg?t=1219055467

[Syphon Filter]

Well, I bet you I have a problem that no other Touch Pro owner in the world has.

The Push To Talk button.

Shitty location, right under the volume rocker, I push it all the time.

And when I do... "Charges may apply. Enable push to talk?" Yes/No

It's $9.99 a month, I don't want it, I want it to GO AWAY but even looking through the registry I don't see anything I can do to get rid of it. Found the entry in the registry, changed a few 1's to 0's (kidding but not really)... Still nothin.

That is annoying. Might be useful if you could remap it a function you might actually use?!

[Black93300ZX]

That is annoying. Might be useful if you could remap it a function you might actually use?!

Exactly... Took me a while to realize I was the only one with a PTT button, I went into the Diamond section asking people how to remap it and they thought I was crazy... "Umm, the Diamond DOESN'T HAVE a 'push to talk' button..."

[rb14]

Also regardin this topic going off thread, i do accept some responsibilty for that but I cannot remain silent in the face of blatant ignorance.
I've never seen a topic go off-thread before. :eek:

This thread should henceforth stay on-topic.

[thebiscuitboy]

Is there anyway you disable the phone lock coming in when you're on a call. I'm happy for this to happen with the device isn't being used, however it would be great if it wouldn't cut in when the phone is in use.

[thebiscuitboy]

Final issue for today, does anybody know how to hide the sim contacts ? I've tried adv. config 3, and regedit but no joy :confused:

[graham.hughes]

Mine has stopped working twice. Coming out of stand-by, the screen is blank and nothing happens. Have to soft-reset to get it working again.

At least the second time (and, I think, the first) I took it out of stand-by by opening the slider. I haven't done this since, and it's been fine.

My "back" button is sticky. The plastic catches slightly on the bottom of the screen.

The two parts of the keypad that are touch sensitive (the zoom wheel and the dpad centre) (yes, the dpad centre clicks, but is seems to have a touch sense too, which the camera uses if you pick the "touch and press" option) are a bit pants.

(The build quality in general of the keypad area is shabby, and not representative of the rest of the device, which in general seems well made.)

I copied some files to the SD card using the "USB-Drive" mode. Most of them were corrupted. I re-copied them using ActiveSync, and it worked fine. I haven't investigated further. I can't believe this never works. I have USB1 on my laptop (not 2). This shouldn't matter, but maybe it was only tested with 2?

The version of TCPMP I was using on my Prophet just crashes horribly on the Touch Pro. Would appreciate it if someone can point me in the direction of a version that works.

Trying to install the command prompt seems to be a *really* bad idea.

Since this is (or was) an issues thread, I'll skip the many things I *do* like about it. Just to say, I'm not sending it back. (And, the screen is FANTASTIC!!!)

[ukdj78]

This version (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=88539&d=1211902452) of TCPMP works. Thanks to our moderator, Mr. Vanx for pointing it out to me!

You might be interested in reading this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418067) if you're going to be playing lots of videos on your pro!

[Syphon Filter]

Mine has stopped working twice. Coming out of stand-by, the screen is blank and nothing happens. Have to soft-reset to get it working again.

At least the second time (and, I think, the first) I took it out of stand-by by opening the slider. I haven't done this since, and it's been fine.

My "back" button is sticky. The plastic catches slightly on the bottom of the screen.

The two parts of the keypad that are touch sensitive (the zoom wheel and the dpad centre) (yes, the dpad centre clicks, but is seems to have a touch sense too, which the camera uses if you pick the "touch and press" option) are a bit pants.

(The build quality in general of the keypad area is shabby, and not representative of the rest of the device, which in general seems well made.)

I copied some files to the SD card using the "USB-Drive" mode. Most of them were corrupted. I re-copied them using ActiveSync, and it worked fine. I haven't investigated further. I can't believe this never works. I have USB1 on my laptop (not 2). This shouldn't matter, but maybe it was only tested with 2?

The version of TCPMP I was using on my Prophet just crashes horribly on the Touch Pro. Would appreciate it if someone can point me in the direction of a version that works.

Trying to install the command prompt seems to be a *really* bad idea.

Since this is (or was) an issues thread, I'll skip the many things I *do* like about it. Just to say, I'm not sending it back. (And, the screen is FANTASTIC!!!)

With regards to the coming out of standby, I have had that exact issue a couple of times, but only when the device had been on charge.

I also agree about the slightly flakey build quality of the keypad area I would have to agree. Is the centre button of your D-Pad aligned 100% accurruately with the circular markings around it? Mine is a bit off centre. Again in this area the direction buttons of the d-pad are also a bit picky about where they are pressed as if the sensors/switches underneath are not 100% lined up.

[Kraize]

Omgawd. You guys suck =/ I said I was wrong and apologized for my ignorance and you continue to bash and flame >.> very nice of all of you. And I would think you can also map the PPT button the same way as it was done for the AT&T tilt. Why don't you try it?

[graham.hughes]

ukdj78: thank you, that works perfectly!

Syphon Filter: my dpads centre is fine as a switch, just the touch sense is flakey to the point of uselessness (or I just dont't have the knack yet). I have similar problems as you ddscribe with the direction keys, but I'm getting used to it. I think the smooth surface with no defined buttons makes it hard to know where to press and, as you say, you have to be fairly accurate.

[Syphon Filter]

Omgawd. You guys suck =/ I said I was wrong and apologized for my ignorance and you continue to bash and flame >.> very nice of all of you. And I would think you can also map the PPT button the same way as it was done for the AT&T tilt. Why don't you try it?

Right, apologies to Kraize92:

I saw a video today that was linked to from somewhere on this forum...hang on...I'll go dig out the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTd3SUPSJsM

In this video the guy presenting claims that the buttons in the bottom section of the Diamond (and therefore the Touch Pro I assume) are physical push buttons AND ALSO capacitive touch. The example that he gives is the centre button of the D-Pad which is fair enough as we all accepted this in the first place. The real question now is, are the others REALLY touch sensitive or is it just the centre button. His presentation suggests that they all are...I'll believe it when I see something solid/proof that those buttons can react at merely a "touch" as opposed to a press though.

Back On Topic:

Today I plugged my phone into my laptop via USB to use WMDC, phone crashed. Soft reset and all was well.

[bersca]

I believe the topic of this thread has been misunderstood. An "Issues List" is not a forum for people with "issues". This Issues List is for posting issues with the HTC Touch Pro phone. This is not a place to chat about whether or not this phone has buttons. Yes, the phone has buttons, end of story.:confused:

[trinode]

Right, apologies to Kraize92:

I saw a video today that was linked to from somewhere on this forum...hang on...I'll go dig out the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTd3SUPSJsM

In this video the guy presenting claims that the buttons in the bottom section of the Diamond (and therefore the Touch Pro I assume) are physical push buttons AND ALSO capacitive touch. The example that he gives is the centre button of the D-Pad which is fair enough as we all accepted this in the first place. The real question now is, are the others REALLY touch sensitive or is it just the centre button. His presentation suggests that they all are...I'll believe it when I see something solid/proof that those buttons can react at merely a "touch" as opposed to a press though.

Back On Topic:

Today I plugged my phone into my laptop via USB to use WMDC, phone crashed. Soft reset and all was well.

I'll be posting my own video too... just run the app yourself if you doubt it.

Edit: Posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418789

[anonimo]

To go back to the thread purpose...
Another issue with the Raphael is that it suffers the infamous WM6.1 sync bug if you need to synchronise your phone with two PCs or a PC and an Exchange server. This is discussed at length in the Kaiser forum and it seems to be an issue with all WM6.1 ROMs.
It's shame that Microsoft is not fixing this issue when one of the main advantages of WM over other Operating Systems has always been the reliability of the synchronisation process!

[bersca]

Sorry if this is on topic:D: my Touch Pro is freezing when I try to add programs to the Programs tab in TouchFlo 3D. It doesn't happen all the time, only if it takes more than 5 seconds to select a program. Anyone else experiencing this issue?

[triball]

well i didn´t notice any of issues you guys mentioned, but i had i little problem with BT using my BT wireless stereo... the sound was a bit crapy and wasn´t clear.. but it´s easy to solve, install advance config. and set BT rate on 44100 KHz and max. bitpool at 80 and now it´s fine :-)

[Syphon Filter]

well i didn´t notice any of issues you guys mentioned, but i had i little problem with BT using my BT wireless stereo... the sound was a bit crapy and wasn´t clear.. but it´s easy to solve, install advance config. and set BT rate on 44100 KHz and max. bitpool at 80 and now it´s fine :-)

I've just been using my Touch Pro with Sony HBH-DS970's to listen to music using the TouchFlo3D music player and suffered major skipping/breakup of the audio. Works fine as a handsfree though...

any ideas?

[dgpurvis]

I've just been using my Touch Pro with Sony HBH-DS970's to listen to music using the TouchFlo3D music player and suffered major skipping/breakup of the audio. Works fine as a handsfree though...

any ideas?

Have you had it in the HTC case while listening? It seems to have an effect, disrupting the BT connection. Out of the case things have been fine for me.

[Syphon Filter]

Have you had it in the HTC case while listening? It seems to have an effect, disrupting the BT connection. Out of the case things have been fine for me.

I didn't have it in the case. It was just in my pocket!!:(

[Syphon Filter]

Right just had a problem. Woke up this morning took my phone of charge and it had appeared to have soft reset itself overnight. Luckily the alarm i had set on it did go off but I had to re-enter my SIM pin.

[b0yce]

Right just had a problem. Woke up this morning took my phone of charge and it had appeared to have soft reset itself overnight. Luckily the alarm i had set on it did go off but I had to re-enter my SIM pin.

Not had that in the week I have used the alarm. Not sure if you could tell, but were there any applications left running on the device when you went to bed, except for Active Sync maybe?

[sub69]

To go back to the thread purpose...
Another issue with the Raphael is that it suffers the infamous WM6.1 sync bug if you need to synchronise your phone with two PCs or a PC and an Exchange server. This is discussed at length in the Kaiser forum and it seems to be an issue with all WM6.1 ROMs.
It's shame that Microsoft is not fixing this issue when one of the main advantages of WM over other Operating Systems has always been the reliability of the synchronisation process!

I can't be bothered to go back through the whole Kaiser forum to find the discussion, but with my Kaiser (on WM6 and WM6.1), my Diamond, and now my Raphael, I've never had a problem syncing my device, laptop, and desktop with Exchange all at the same time. E-mails delivered and filed to all three at the same time, contacts updated between all three instantly, etc. And I can still sync the non-Exchange items (OneNote, Files, Pictures) directly with a PC using the cable without any problems?

Or are you talking about the iPod-like behaviour where it insists on wiping your device and re-synching everything when you try to sync with a new machine? It certainly solved the age old problem of duplicate entries, so I assumed that was by design rather than a bug?

[Syphon Filter]

Not had that in the week I have used the alarm. Not sure if you could tell, but were there any applications left running on the device when you went to bed, except for Active Sync maybe?

I don't think it's the alarm that caused the problem, i always use my phone as my alarm. Also pretty sure no apps left running. It was just on the bedside table charging. Alarm woke me up as I expected it to but the "enter sim pin" screen was up. That is what leads me to believe the device softreset overnight sometime.

[billu]

Hardly a biggie but annoying never the less, the battery seem to take an age to charge up. I haven't accurately timed it but seems to take about twice as long as the the vario III using the wall charger. Has anyone else noticed it?

[discophil]

Opera and internet explorer crash on all secure websites. I am going to start another thread on this as its doing my head in! arrrgh

[ardsar]

If your device becomes very slow after exiting from opera, then its due to the opera process not being closed. It is not visible in the task manager, but showed up in memmaid. Killing the opera process restored the device to normal.

I've only had this once on the touch pro, but have seen it many times on my kaiser, running opera 9.5 beta.

[BoldFace]

I'm having a strange issue maybe someone can help me... Incoming text messages are being stamped 4 hours behind. Anyone else having SMS timestamping issues?

[ukdj78]

I'm having a strange issue maybe someone can help me... Incoming text messages are being stamped 4 hours behind. Anyone else having SMS timestamping issues?

Is your timezone set correctly? Tap the clock on the home screen then the time tab at the bottom to check.

[BoldFace]

Is your timezone set correctly? Tap the clock on the home screen then the time tab at the bottom to check.

Time zone is set correctly. As the messages I send have the correct timestamp, the ones I recieve don't. My timezone is set to Eastern U.S -5 GMT

[danielherrero]

Hi
I am in holidays on Cadiz, south of spain,30-35 degrees. When I use tt7 with the device plugged to the car charger and this became so hot that the device stops charging (I suppose auto-protection system). It doesnt happen using Sygic Drive because the device doesnt take that temperature. Someone with similar issue?
Dani

[LeeJS]

Hi
I am in holidays on Cadiz, south of spain,30-35 degrees. When I use tt7 with the device plugged to the car charger and this became so hot that the device stops charging (I suppose auto-protection system). It doesnt happen using Sygic Drive because the device doesnt take that temperature. Someone with similar issue?
Dani

Don't rub it in, mate. I live in England. We're lucky if the sun comes up.

[billu]

This slow charging thing is starting to bug me now. I have the excellent "devstate" today plugin application installed which gives the battery charge level in 1% steps. When I say slow, it takes around 3 mins to increase by 1% which means it will take 4 hours for 80% charge (too long) when this is the case, the back doesn't heat up.

I have seen it charge much faster on one occasion i.e. around 1% a minute and the back was warming up (this is logical if more current is flowing) I was wondering the cause of the slow charge is that the device thinks it is connected to a pc and the charging current is limited. Also when you plug the cable sometimes the menu pops up asking whether you want to enter activesync/disk drive mode but doesn't on other occasions. There doesn't seem to be any pattern to it.

Another observation is that a soft reeboot occasionaly gives wildly varying battery levels for example before reboot the charge might be 100% and straight after the reboot 90%, or 83% before and 100% after. Interestingly before turning on the device for the first time I fully charged the battery, but up on boot up it was reporting 60%! Have I got a duff battery or some issue with the device itself?

[GlobalM3]

Right just had a problem. Woke up this morning took my phone of charge and it had appeared to have soft reset itself overnight. Luckily the alarm i had set on it did go off but I had to re-enter my SIM pin.

there is a setting to ask for pin after x amount of time. i have mine set to 3 hours. this is just in case you loose your device and someone else finds it. is it possable that you set that or its set default to say 6 hours? if so then thats why its asking for it in the morning.

good luck

[Prerna]

well i didn´t notice any of issues you guys mentioned, but i had i little problem with BT using my BT wireless stereo... the sound was a bit crapy and wasn´t clear.. but it´s easy to solve, install advance config. and set BT rate on 44100 KHz and max. bitpool at 80 and now it´s fine :-)


I use a Sonyericsson BT headset (HBH-200), and I could listen hours of music without any disturbance, even at distances of more than 5 meters away.

Still, I'll try your settings, in case this improves the audio quality.

[th1nm1nt]

I finally got my unit here in America...so running behind everyone else. I have two issues with the device I am looking for assistance with. I started reading the thread to see if this was covered, but after 4 pages of button details, I thought I'd just post my issues instead.

Issue 1:
MMS size. When I recieve picture or video messages, the file itself is insanely small. I'm talking 3/4" at the most. My work around is to save the attachment, then go into Picture viewer to see the file. Pain in the arse if you ask me. Besides, when I have 3 kids sending pic messages to daddy, you can tell how much this will irritate me. Is there a way to alter the size of the MMS image...or select Picture Viewer to open the file instead?

Issue 2:
BT sync with my laptop. I was establishing a relationship with my laptop, and when prompted with passcode, I would simply enter the four zeros to connect. The issue is, as I click "next", the passcode entered is cleared out, giving me an "invalid passcode" error. I have rebooted the laptop and raphael numerous times with no resolution. Can anyone offer a work around or a fix to get this relationship completed? I have no desire to use the USB cable all the time to sync.

Thanks in advance to everyone here...

[mrvanx]

I finally got my unit here in America...so running behind everyone else. I have two issues with the device I am looking for assistance with. I started reading the thread to see if this was covered, but after 4 pages of button details, I thought I'd just post my issues instead.

Issue 1:
MMS size. When I recieve picture or video messages, the file itself is insanely small. I'm talking 3/4" at the most. My work around is to save the attachment, then go into Picture viewer to see the file. Pain in the arse if you ask me. Besides, when I have 3 kids sending pic messages to daddy, you can tell how much this will irritate me. Is there a way to alter the size of the MMS image...or select Picture Viewer to open the file instead?

Issue 2:
BT sync with my laptop. I was establishing a relationship with my laptop, and when prompted with passcode, I would simply enter the four zeros to connect. The issue is, as I click "next", the passcode entered is cleared out, giving me an "invalid passcode" error. I have rebooted the laptop and raphael numerous times with no resolution. Can anyone offer a work around or a fix to get this relationship completed? I have no desire to use the USB cable all the time to sync.

Thanks in advance to everyone here...

1: Go into the MMS options in messaging, in the preferences tab select "original" from the "Photo Resolution" menu, apply it and see if that helps (not sure if it will).

2: pass :( try using the soft keyboard instead and see if you can get past that stage.

[WDawn]

Hardly a biggie but annoying never the less, the battery seem to take an age to charge up. I haven't accurately timed it but seems to take about twice as long as the the vario III using the wall charger. Has anyone else noticed it?

Actually i have probably the same thing: put it on the charger yesterday night, woke up 7 hours later, and the led indicated that it was still charging? I will try with a other older 5V adaptor tonight.

[WDawn]

Actually i have probably the same thing: put it on the charger yesterday night, woke up 7 hours later, and the led indicated that it was still charging? I will try with a other older 5V adaptor tonight.

Tried another charger from my Hermes and now the charging goes much faster, after 3 hours, it's completely charged. Must be an issue with the charger i guess.

[Cynetic_1]

I have been using my wifi network from my home with others htcs without problems.
But, unfortunaly with my new Raphael, only works weather upgrade, QuickGps, Opera, email don´t have access to internet and my wifi network is conected!!
Any help please??

[Prerna]

Trued everything but I'm unable to get the words' suggestions to work while writing emails/SMS.

[leoiden]

hey all you raphael owners habout sharing cabs or oem packages from your roms if possible thanks in advance!

[WatskeBart]

When i woke up this morning and i want to check the time, this is what my phone looked like. (see attachment)

I try to suspend the phone by pressing the off button but that didn´t do anything.
I was very sleepy so i thought f*ck it, i take a look at it later and make a picture of it.

When i was taking the picture about an hour later suddenly the phone comes back to main menu again, with the message "Could not start TouchFlo3D do u want to try again". I couldn´t do anything the device was responseless. After a reboot i was fine again.

I still have no clue how this could happen.

[Syphon Filter]

Interesting,

Again this morning I woke up to find my Raph totally unresponsive. I left it to charge overnight, got up this morning tried to wake it up and nothing, screen off, all buttons unresponsive. Soft reset and it's back up and running.

Any thoughts? I use my device as an alarm in the mornings, this is pretty useless if you ask me.

What do you guys think? Hardware problem (therefore unfixable) or software problem (fixable by update?).

[WatskeBart]

Interesting,

Again this morning I woke up to find my Raph totally unresponsive. I left it to charge overnight, got up this morning tried to wake it up and nothing, screen off, all buttons unresponsive. Soft reset and it's back up and running.

Any thoughts? I use my device as an alarm in the mornings, this is pretty useless if you ask me.

What do you guys think? Hardware problem (therefore unfixable) or software problem (fixable by update?).

Have you already installed 3rd party applications? Did the problem also occur when your device was totally stock?
I have tested it few days ago charging overnight but no problems at all.

If your device keeps having this problem while it´s completly stock you should consider this a possible hardware problem.
If you´re not sure return to store and claim a new one.

[Syphon Filter]

Have you already installed 3rd party applications? Did the problem also occur when your device was totally stock?
I have tested it few days ago charging overnight but no problems at all.

If your device keeps having this problem while it´s completly stock you should consider this a possible hardware problem.
If you´re not sure return to store and claim a new one.

The only apps I had installed were as follows:

1. Google Maps (installed as part of the HTC Customisation
2. MoDaCo CamerAware
3. MoDaCo AppToDate
4. PHM Registry Editor
5. Copilot Live 7
6. Remote Desktop Client
7. .NET 3.5 Compact Framework

[onderduiker]

When i woke up this morning and i want to check the time, this is what my phone looked like. (see attachment)

I try to suspend the phone by pressing the off button but that didn´t do anything.
I was very sleepy so i thought f*ck it, i take a look at it later and make a picture of it.

When i was taking the picture about an hour later suddenly the phone comes back to main menu again, with the message "Could not start TouchFlo3D do u want to try again". I couldn´t do anything the device was responseless. After a reboot i was fine again.

I still have no clue how this could happen.
Same here,
Happens to me twice now. Same screen, and same message. It also happened with my home screen, it looks like someone has broken the glass :confused:

@syphon Filter
maybe you can try a hard reset and install nothing after that and see whats happening at night for a few nights.

[mallman]

anyone noticed sluggishness when you are writing a text message on a long thread? My letters can pretty much keep up with my fingers on a new message but once the text message thread gets long the letters are slooow.

[WDawn]

The only apps I had installed were as follows:

1. Google Maps (installed as part of the HTC Customisation
2. MoDaCo CamerAware
3. MoDaCo AppToDate
4. PHM Registry Editor
5. Copilot Live 7
6. Remote Desktop Client
7. .NET 3.5 Compact Framework

Did Google maps install part of the HTC customisation? I don't have it on my phone, and when i want to go to the download site, it says: "sorry, Google maps doesn't work on your HTC touch dual" (alltough it's a touch pro)

Could that be the problem?

[WatskeBart]

Did Google maps install part of the HTC customisation? I don't have it on my phone, and when i want to go to the download site, it says: "sorry, Google maps doesn't work on your HTC touch dual" (alltough it's a touch pro)

Could that be the problem?

I had the same problem yesterday when i tried to update my GoogleMaps. I fixed it by downloading the cab manually from http://google.com/gmm/GoogleMaps.CAB

[Syphon Filter]

Did Google maps install part of the HTC customisation? I don't have it on my phone, and when i want to go to the download site, it says: "sorry, Google maps doesn't work on your HTC touch dual" (alltough it's a touch pro)

Could that be the problem?

Yeah Google Maps DEFINITELY installs as part of my customisation and it does work. What are your ROM details? Mine are in my sig, it's definitely in there.

[WatskeBart]

The only apps I had installed were as follows:

1. Google Maps (installed as part of the HTC Customisation
2. MoDaCo CamerAware
3. MoDaCo AppToDate
4. PHM Registry Editor
5. Copilot Live 7
6. Remote Desktop Client
7. .NET 3.5 Compact Framework

I installed same apps + more and no problem at all.
Like onderduiker said you could try a hard reset and charge it overnight to see if it still happens, otherwise return the phone.

[WDawn]

Yeah Google Maps DEFINITELY installs as part of my customisation and it does work. What are your ROM details? Mine are in my sig, it's definitely in there.

ROM 1.90.401.1 WWE

Rechecked it and google maps is not there.

[Syphon Filter]

ROM 1.90.401.1 WWE

Rechecked it and google maps is not there.

Weird, so it seems that there differences between ROM versions that are even named the same?

EDIT: I read wrong, we do have different ROM versions.

I installed same apps + more and no problem at all.
Like onderduiker said you could try a hard reset and charge it overnight to see if it still happens, otherwise return the phone.

I have just hard reset my device. I let the customisation run as normal, manually ran the network config (Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Connection Setup) for UK/T-Mobile.

The odd thing is that it doesnt happen everynight, it's only happened a few times as opposed to every night.

[WDawn]

Weird, so it seems that there differences between ROM versions that are even named the same?



I have just hard reset my device. I let the customisation run as normal, manually ran the network config (Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Connection Setup) for UK/T-Mobile.

The odd thing is that it doesnt happen everynight, it's only happened a few times as opposed to every night.

Well mine is 401 and yours 405 maybe that's the difference?

[WDawn]

I had the same problem yesterday when i tried to update my GoogleMaps. I fixed it by downloading the cab manually from http://google.com/gmm/GoogleMaps.CAB

Thnx, just tried it, and that works, now it's there.

[Syphon Filter]

Well mine is 401 and yours 405 maybe that's the difference?

Beat me to it, I just noticed that.

[onderduiker]

Weird, so it seems that there differences between ROM versions that are even named the same?

EDIT: I read wrong, we do have different ROM versions.



I have just hard reset my device. I let the customisation run as normal, manually ran the network config (Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Connection Setup) for UK/T-Mobile.

The odd thing is that it doesnt happen everynight, it's only happened a few times as opposed to every night.
Do nothing.....hang on for a few nights and see what's happening :)

[Syphon Filter]

Do nothing.....hang on for a few nights and see what's happening :)

Yup, that's the plan.

[GlobalM3]

The reason you cant download google maps from your pro is the fact you are using Opera. Use IE and it works like a charm! Mine did not come with it either but after using IE it worked perfect.

Do you guys have issues with getting a sat signal? Mine takes about 3-4 minutes.

[Prerna]

Yup, that's the plan.

Got 2 crashes in a week as well, although this did not happen while charging.

I haven't installed much, that is: Coreplayer, Batti, Soti Pocket Controller, and I tweaked it using Schap's Advanced Config tool.

My version is 401.

[Syphon Filter]

Got 2 crashes in a week as well, although this did not happen while charging.

I haven't installed much, that is: Coreplayer, Batti, Soti Pocket Controller, and I tweaked it using Schap's Advanced Config tool.

My version is 401.

Interesting, I don't have batti installed on my Touch Pro, but back in Kaiser days batti caused me issues. Try uninstalling it and see if you have any success...

[Cynetic_1]

I have been using my wifi network from my home with others htcs without problems.
But, unfortunaly with my new Raphael, only works weather upgrade, QuickGps, Opera, email don´t have access to internet and my wifi network is conected!!
Any help please???????
Many thanks

[Syphon Filter]

I have been using my wifi network from my home with others htcs without problems.
But, unfortunaly with my new Raphael, only works weather upgrade, QuickGps, Opera, email don´t have access to internet and my wifi network is conected!!
Any help please???????
Many thanks

Try removing the association with your Wi-Fi network and reconnecting. Sounds like not all your IP info is properly configured. Also check to see if any proxt settings have been applied.

Failing that give PIE a go see what reponse you get from that.

Also to those experiencing device lock up/crashes ESPECIALLY overnight/charging check this out:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412729

Sounds like it may be a fault common to both the Diamond and the Touch Pro...

[Prerna]

Interesting, I don't have batti installed on my Touch Pro, but back in Kaiser days batti caused me issues. Try uninstalling it and see if you have any success...

I'll first see if the issue persists, and then try to remove it.

I never had a single issue on my TyTn for almost 2 years of use though.

[onderduiker]

I have been using my wifi network from my home with others htcs without problems.
But, unfortunaly with my new Raphael, only works weather upgrade, QuickGps, Opera, email don´t have access to internet and my wifi network is conected!!
Any help please???????
Many thanks

Probably are the wireless lan settings still on Best Battery
You should change it to best performance.

[adityasen]

When i woke up this morning and i want to check the time, this is what my phone looked like. (see attachment)


Exact same thing happened to me this morning. No idea how/why.

[Jiggs1337]

I have an issue that i hope can be solved. I use live messenger a lot, and having it on my phone is amazing. Ive had lots of fun using it. However, when i dont use the device for a few seconds (30 i believe its set to) the screen turns off. Thats a good thing, but, the wifi network disconnects, and therefore so does live messenger. So while waiting for a reply, I disconnect, and my contacts see me go offline.
I want live messenger to be connected all the time when using wifi. I have not yet used 3G (data plan not yet active), but I hope that can be set to allow messenger to be connected permanently if I want it to be.
Is it normal for wifi to disconnect when the screen turns off? If so, can it be disabled?
thanks

[Syphon Filter]

I have an issue that i hope can be solved. I use live messenger a lot, and having it on my phone is amazing. Ive had lots of fun using it. However, when i dont use the device for a few seconds (30 i believe its set to) the screen turns off. Thats a good thing, but, the wifi network disconnects, and therefore so does live messenger. So while waiting for a reply, I disconnect, and my contacts see me go offline.
I want live messenger to be connected all the time when using wifi. I have not yet used 3G (data plan not yet active), but I hope that can be set to allow messenger to be connected permanently if I want it to be.
Is it normal for wifi to disconnect when the screen turns off? If so, can it be disabled?
thanks

That's a power saving feature, I'm guessing there is a way for it to be turned off but you'll have to wait for someone else to inform you because I have no idea.

When running on GPRS/3G/HSDPA you will not have this issue I believe, your MSN session will stay signed in even if the device goes to sleep.

[Jiggs1337]

ok, well i guess its more important on 3G/etc. Cos ill be on the move. When wifi is around, im normally able to get to a pc. But its handy around the house, while watching tv in another room or so. Id prefer it to stay signed in.
Thanks

[herpi]

Interesting, I don't have batti installed on my Touch Pro, but back in Kaiser days batti caused me issues. Try uninstalling it and see if you have any success...

Exactly the same.

And I liked that little battery info line so much!

After removing Batti my Kaiser hangs never came back.

Huib

[herpi]

I have an issue that i hope can be solved. I use live messenger a lot, and having it on my phone is amazing. Ive had lots of fun using it. However, when i dont use the device for a few seconds (30 i believe its set to) the screen turns off. Thats a good thing, but, the wifi network disconnects, and therefore so does live messenger. So while waiting for a reply, I disconnect, and my contacts see me go offline.
I want live messenger to be connected all the time when using wifi. I have not yet used 3G (data plan not yet active), but I hope that can be set to allow messenger to be connected permanently if I want it to be.
Is it normal for wifi to disconnect when the screen turns off? If so, can it be disabled?
thanks

I use MSN 24/24 (in fact I use Agile, but it is expensive http://www.agilemobile.com/).

IMHO you need 3G because the data trafic, now and then, on normal GPRS, can block incoming calls.
But I used it with GPRS for a long time.

What you do NOT tell is if you have a SIM card in your phone. Should'nt MSN switch automatically to GSM use when WIFI switches off?

Huib

[mlekas]

for those experiencing an unresponsive unit, could you confirm whether you changed power management settings in Advance Config? My phone was running without issue for 3 straight days, but the day after I set L2TP, AsyncMAC and PPTP power management to Enabled I saw a screen freeze and had to reset. the symptoms were slightly different - completely grey screen, then about 10 mins later the password screen (which was basically dead).

Only third party apps installed are Advance Config and regedit.

ROM: 1.90.401.1 WWE, Radio 1.02.25.19

[klabton]

Hi!
Can somone confirm my issue?
When I tap on upper bar, there is some kind of manager pop up, and when I tap signal icon, there is an old style popup with link to Comm Manager. Tapping on this, does nothing. It looks like the Comm Man is trying to start, but its not.

[johnk1973]

Hi!
Can somone confirm my issue?
When I tap on upper bar, there is some kind of manager pop up, and when I tap signal icon, there is an old style popup with link to Comm Manager. Tapping on this, does nothing. It looks like the Comm Man is trying to start, but its not.

I just had this issue for the first time minutes ago, simple soft rest did the trick.

[Jiggs1337]

I use MSN 24/24 (in fact I use Agile, but it is expensive http://www.agilemobile.com/).

IMHO you need 3G because the data trafic, now and then, on normal GPRS, can block incoming calls.
But I used it with GPRS for a long time.

What you do NOT tell is if you have a SIM card in your phone. Should'nt MSN switch automatically to GSM use when WIFI switches off?

Huib

I will have 3G soon. SIM card is in, but not yet active. I ordered it online, and they need my signature by post first.
Its good that with 3G MSN is 24/7, but id also like wifi to stay connected while in stand by. This way I can use WiFi at home, and stay on msn without using 3G.

Also, if i connect to msn using wifi, and lose wifi connection, does it auto switch to 3G without signing out? (Im guessing it does sign out)

[herpi]

I ....

Also, if i connect to msn using wifi, and lose wifi connection, does it auto switch to 3G without signing out? (Im guessing it does sign out)

It should

Huib

[Jiggs1337]

Ok, another question i thought I'd post in her.
How do you guys add pictures for your favorite contacts?
My fav contacts are all also on live messenger, but its not using their live messenger pictures in the TF3D view.
When i go to all contacts however, their live messenger picture is there.
I tried to ad pictures manually, which then overwrote the live messenger ones in the all contacts view.
I would have thought it would have used the live messenger thumbnails automatically.

[Syphon Filter]

for those experiencing an unresponsive unit, could you confirm whether you changed power management settings in Advance Config? My phone was running without issue for 3 straight days, but the day after I set L2TP, AsyncMAC and PPTP power management to Enabled I saw a screen freeze and had to reset. the symptoms were slightly different - completely grey screen, then about 10 mins later the password screen (which was basically dead).

Only third party apps installed are Advance Config and regedit.

ROM: 1.90.401.1 WWE, Radio 1.02.25.19

I never did any power management tweaks and experienced the issue. I have recently hard reset my Touch Pro and installed no 3rd party apps, not had the issue since. Going to give it a couple more days and see what happens.

[Flippy_TK]

Hello everybody,
Here is a list of issues I've encountered after 1 week of usage of my HTC Raphael:
* Sudden slowdowns of the machine
* Music tearing/skipping (even with the standard issued handsfree). I'm using Mortplayer.
* Just bought coreplayer. Tested many configs, but I have problems with the image (green screen, slow refreshing)
* Today I encountered a big bug. My HTC was connected to my car's Handsfree Bluetooth kit (Parrot). I received a call but I couldn't hear the person that was calling me, and the person couldn't hear me. After disconnecting it from the Parrot I couldn't still hear and be heard (tried both by receiving calls and calling). I had to soft reset for it to work again properly.

Specs of my HTC:
ROM: 1.90.401.1 WWE
Radio: 1.02.25.19
Protocol: 52.33.25.17U

Only tweak: file system cache at 8 Mb; File system filter cache as 131072 sectors as explained in a post in the forum.
Nevertheless the music tearing/skipping and machine slowdowns also happened before tweaking the HTC Raphael.

[Jiggs1337]

Everything was so perfect, but now im getting some problems.
shell32.exe keeps crashing. Asks me to send an error report. What is this? It seems to happen after shutting down, starting up, and connecting something to 3g. It could be more things that cause it, but when i start my device and turn on data, the error report comes up.
It only started last night while i was trying out remote desktop. I closed remote desktop, and an error report came up saying it had crashed. I chose 'Dont send' and thought nothing of it. But then later the shell32.exe error report came up. Then again before bed. Then again this morning. Then while out, a gray (sort of like the snow effect on untuned TVs) happened. I did a soft reset, and shell32.exe crashed again.
Any ideas?

(Also, the music player seems very slow sometimes. I press play and nothing happens. Then i press pause and play again, and it plays. Then i skip track, and it stops again, i press pause and play and usually it starts again.)

[Flippy_TK]

Ah, had the same problems with the shell32.exe a couple of times too (it crashed and asked to send the report).

I also forgot to way in my previous post that I find the wifi too slow (isn't it supposed to be 54g??? my router is working on g, but the internet through the wifi is pretty darn slow on my device)

[Syphon Filter]

I've had that shell32 issue a couple of times too.

Also, regarding the slow internet over WiFi, I think that Opera is the culprit and not the WiFi itself. It seems very slow to render pages.

[Flippy_TK]

Syphon, I do think it is the wifi, as the vnc client is running much slower (the refresh rate) than with my toshiba e830 (same and different versions of VNC).

Concerning the bug I had yesterday ( the one about the fact that the the phone didn't ring when receiving a call, I couldn't hear the person that was calling me and the person couldn't hear me), my HTC Raphael had the same bug again today, and without beeing connected to the parrot.

Does anybody had the same bug so far? Or should I send back the phone because there is a defect with it?

Config of my HTC:
ROM: 1.90.401.1 WWE
Radio: 1.02.25.19
Protocol: 52.33.25.17U

Only tweak: file system cache at 8 Mb; File system filter cache as 131072 sectors as explained in a post in the forum.

[aquasesh]

another issue... Softbank MMSLite vanishes occasionally. it has to do with WM6.1

also, when I open Photo Album or Camera from TouchFlo it will only minimize when pressing the back or home button.

I rather have it close, since its very easy to access.

Also, for some reason, the clock changes sometimes from the TouchFlo clock to normal digits.

[Syphon Filter]

Syphon, I do think it is the wifi, as the vnc client is running much slower (the refresh rate) than with my toshiba e830 (same and different versions of VNC).

Concerning the bug I had yesterday ( the one about the fact that the the phone didn't ring when receiving a call, I couldn't hear the person that was calling me and the person couldn't hear me), my HTC Raphael had the same bug again today, and without beeing connected to the parrot.

Does anybody had the same bug so far? Or should I send back the phone because there is a defect with it?

Config of my HTC:
ROM: 1.90.401.1 WWE
Radio: 1.02.25.19
Protocol: 52.33.25.17U

Only tweak: file system cache at 8 Mb; File system filter cache as 131072 sectors as explained in a post in the forum.

Thats weird. I have a different ROM, I think there is a HardSPL out now so you could try a different ROM/Radio?

[graemesmith]

Issues:

HTC task man doesnt work properly.
Poor reception
Too many startup apps/services put on by htc to provide touch interface (which i hate)

why on eart you use operaloder on phones stratup just to get 2-3 more seconds fast load time for opera.

i think htc just over done this touch crap.

could anoyone access setupfiles on rom so i can use plain wm6.1

START - SETTINGS - Today (icon) - Items (tab) UNCHECK TouchFlo3d. Soft Reset.

You now have a Windows 6.1 Phone.

[Syphon Filter]

START - SETTINGS - Today (icon) - Items (tab) UNCHECK TouchFlo3d. Soft Reset.

You now have a Windows 6.1 Phone.

You don't even need to soft reset. Uncheck, exit to today screen. Voila.

[jamesd256]

My issue is that after I make a call the Touch Pro looks like it's been climbed over by a giant slug.

Kinda takes away the wow factor when I show it to my friends to impress them.

[Syphon Filter]

My issue is that after I make a call the Touch Pro looks like it's been climbed over by a giant slug.

Kinda takes away the wow factor when I show it to my friends to impress them.

wash yer face ya' grubby oik!

j/k, I know what you mean.

[kucsi]

Guys, I don’t want to be the bad guy, but I really don’t understand all of You. I had Qtek9000 before my TP, so I have been using HTC for more than 4 years.

1.)Battery issue: If You set up all what You can find on XDA I think this COMBINED!!!! product last for 1 whole day. I have very massive phone conversations(today 48 calls,) I use Igo, and of course this is my favorite toy so I „play with them a lot”. I have friends using different hi-tech PHONES(ONLY PHONES!!!) from nokia …etc. and those gadgets are running out of power also within 1 day. Of course I use EDGE only(connect to 3G only if it is needed), set up in Adv. Config everything, also in S-K-Tools, and I use SAVEBATTERY cab. But t works. I think this device is the best I have ever seen.

2.) App.: only one question : please, show me ONE only ONE high tech phone with less bugs than TP!!!. This combined product is the most reliable I have ever worked with. In my company people using Nokia, Samsung, …etc phones and those are frozen a slowed down many-many times during the day.

In these product there will be always bugs! but the question, how these REALLY affects Your daily use. Personally I think this product is the best on the market. Without any improved functionality it WORKS. And the improvement projects have just STARTED!

[Flippy_TK]

Thats weird. I have a different ROM, I think there is a HardSPL out now so you could try a different ROM/Radio?

I would like to try a different ROM indeed, but I'm afraid that it will void my warranty. I just reseted the machine (with the clean data program in settings) to get rid of the programs I installed and the things I modified in the registry and test it like this for 1 week to see if the bug doesn't happen again.
If it happens again I think I'll send it back as I'm the only one apparently who had this bug (nobody else with the same ROM talked about it so far).

Cheers

[at10ti0n]

a couple of issues with the skinned dialer:
- if you change the type of the action mode from: < m > to < txt > it doesn't open the messaging SMS/MMS but does nothing :)
- if you press on a contact it starts dialing directly - maybe that's the way it should work but for me it would be better to open contact as it does on WM6 standard dialpad.

[Flippy_TK]

if you press on a contact it starts dialing directly - maybe that's the way it should work but for me it would be better to open contact as it does on WM6 standard dialpad.

I personally don't have that problem. When I press on my contacts (either through the favourite contacts in the TF3D or in the normal contacts mode) it opens the contact details as in older Win CE / WM versions.

The contacts your Raphael started dialing straight away have many numbers stored for the same contact or just one? That is the only explanation I see (or an option somewhere)

[ardsar]

All those with battery issues, make sure to apply the trick to stop active sync draining your battery.

Simply configure a new server source (its under options), type in a load of rubbish for server address etc (you may have to give enter something like blah@blah.com). Once commpleted, you then have an option to tell it how to sync - by default it will be as new mail arrives. Change Off peak and peak times to manual. Then simply delete the server that you have just created. This is a well known WM bug. When i did this, my standby current dropped from around 70mA to 12mA. 12mA is still high, (tytn II was around 4mA), however i have other processes going on in the background. A standby current of 70mA will only give you 19hours of standby, with no other activity.

[at10ti0n]

I personally don't have that problem. When I press on my contacts (either through the favourite contacts in the TF3D or in the normal contacts mode) it opens the contact details as in older Win CE / WM versions.

The contacts your Raphael started dialing straight away have many numbers stored for the same contact or just one? That is the only explanation I see (or an option somewhere)

are you sure you are using the skinned dialpad? this happens to me with it only. If i disable it on advance config and use the standard WM6 dialpad it opens the contact on touching.

[klabton]

Just look at this :) It's not only once. It happends every minute.

[TomasNM]

Final issue for today, does anybody know how to hide the sim contacts ? I've tried adv. config 3, and regedit but no joy :confused:
HKCU>ControlPanel>Phone ShowSIM=0

[TomasNM]

Hardly a biggie but annoying never the less, the battery seem to take an age to charge up. I haven't accurately timed it but seems to take about twice as long as the the vario III using the wall charger. Has anyone else noticed it?

Me as well,noticed yesterday. Maybe it causes different charger,that I am use nearby my bed for HTC Typhoon. I have lot of HTC's and lot of chargers used 1 in office,1@home,1 packed for travelling... Next time I will try to use original and will see.

[TomasNM]

If your device becomes very slow after exiting from opera, then its due to the opera process not being closed. It is not visible in the task manager, but showed up in memmaid. Killing the opera process restored the device to normal.

I've only had this once on the touch pro, but have seen it many times on my kaiser, running opera 9.5 beta.

Using .Freds Taskmanager I see the Opera9.exe process,but I can't stop it. As I see,I will go back to slow PIE with PIEPlus extensions. Btw,how can I change my default Internet browser? I never found it.

[TomasNM]

Do you guys have issues with getting a sat signal? Mine takes about 3-4 minutes.
Mine as well. I have installed TomTom7 2 days ago,but I was unable to fix position for a very long time(2 cigarettes outside of the building,nice weather,maybe more than 6 satellites visible),without success. Yes,it was stable position. Then I was travelling on a business trip and start Navigation and it fixes in car in 30secs. Crazy...

[TomasNM]

OK,now my issues:

I want to:
- hear the sound of incoming ICQ message during standby(vib.is working/QIP2031)
- use another software for alarm(Chronos),but it is sleeping with the device so no alarm is sound until I wake up the device-often too late
- disable auto-rotating while keyboard is out
- disable original functionalities of home/back buttons and handle it with AEBPlus(I can handle them,but the original functionality is also done by pressing the button - 1click makes 2 events)
- use cameraLED as a torch as it is possible on Hermes using VJCandela
- see,what I am typing with hw-keyboard in some text inputs(Opera mini,...). There's white font on white background
- maybe something else...

I don't want to:
- use any TouchFlo functionalities,including the finger scrolling lists
- automatic switching EDGE/3G/HSDPA-I want to use all the time 3G
- wake up the device while sliding the keyboard out
- maybe something else...

Anyone can provide some solutions for these issues?
Thank you guys.

[htcplussony]

Does any body have problems with button to focus in the camera app?

When the camera starts up, touching center button to focus only doesnt work. Its only after I physically press in the button and take a picture does the touch only focus part work after. (EDIT searching the diamond forums brings up lots of posts on focusing)

Actually the entire camera app menus are very laggy.

[ardsar]

OK,now my issues:

I want to:
- hear the sound of incoming ICQ message during standby(vib.is working/QIP2031)
- use another software for alarm(Chronos),but it is sleeping with the device so no alarm is sound until I wake up the device-often too late
- disable auto-rotating while keyboard is out
- disable original functionalities of home/back buttons and handle it with AEBPlus(I can handle them,but the original functionality is also done by pressing the button - 1click makes 2 events)
- use cameraLED as a torch as it is possible on Hermes using VJCandela
- see,what I am typing with hw-keyboard in some text inputs(Opera mini,...). There's white font on white background
- maybe something else...

I don't want to:
- use any TouchFlo functionalities,including the finger scrolling lists
- automatic switching EDGE/3G/HSDPA-I want to use all the time 3G
- wake up the device while sliding the keyboard out
- maybe something else...

Anyone can provide some solutions for these issues?
Thank you guys.


Turn off touch flo by going into settings - today menu, and deselecting touch flow application from the today items - just like you world turn any other application off from the roday screen
Automatic switching - change from auto to 3G mode under phone settings!!!

[TomasNM]

Turn off touch flo by going into settings - today menu, and deselecting touch flow application from the today items - just like you world turn any other application off from the roday screen
Automatic switching - change from auto to 3G mode under phone settings!!!
Yes,that I know,how to disable today plugin,but I want to disable all the scrolling features in menus,lists etc. I found the auto-switching yesterday,but I also found that 3G network isn't so strong as GSM,so any quick access to these settings will be pretty good(some 3rd party app?).

[Frontier]

Hello,

My htc Raphael has the following Device info:
ROM: 1.90.401.1 WWE
ROM date: 08/01/08
Radio: 1.02.25.19
Protocol: 52.33.25.17U

I've noticed that ClearType was disabled by default. When enabled it works but only in Portrait mode; on Landscape mode (i.e open the keyboard) the fonts are really messed up, I can't write anything on notes and the application menus expose corruption issues.

Do you have this problem also? I've searched the Advanced Config 3.1 options but couldn't find anything that can cure this issue.

Many thanks in advance.

[TomasNM]

Yes,exactly the same issue. I have described it upstairs...
I want to - see,what I am typing with hw-keyboard in some text inputs(Opera mini,...). There's white font on white background
We need to switch the CT in landscape temporarily,until someone will found a solution. I didn't.

[fhsieh]

My TouchPro has ClearType enabled in portrait and disabled in landscape by default. In AC3.1, look under Menu > More settings > ClearType, and uncheck "Enable ClearType on screen rotation".

Otherwise if this is enabled, textbox fonts do not render correctly and menu highlighting is broken. Might not happen to everyone, but I can confirm it happens to me only when that option is enabled.

Again, ClearType still works in Portrait.

[Frontier]

My TouchPro has ClearType enabled in portrait and disabled in landscape by default. In AC3.1, look under Menu > More settings > ClearType, and uncheck "Enable ClearType on screen rotation".


Thanks for the advice, it works now :)

[TomasNM]

Yes,it is working,but without CT so the fonts are not so nice . It's a bit strange,because on other devices there are no problems at all.

[jjjacksonjjj]

Hi everyone.

I have a Touch Pro which is standard apart from the two minor speedboost mods posted elsewhere on this forum (they work great by the way, thanks).

I am having a bit of a problem with the keyboard and the TF3d landscape menu associated with it.

Firstly, when I slide the keyboard out and press one of the options, say the calendar, it will open but then after about a secondit will go back to the TF3d landscape screen. On the second attempt it stays open. This happens about 75% of the time.

The keyboard often has a long delay (up to about 15 seconds) which can mean I have typed a sentence before it decides to display it on the screen! Very annoying :(

Any ideas?

[da_jojo]

i was just playing around with my wifi on 54mbit and got a call and as soon as i hung up it displayed : shell32.dll stopped working... i choose to send it to microsoft and a second later the device resets out of nowhere :S

[Frontier]

Yes,it is working,but without CT so the fonts are not so nice . It's a bit strange,because on other devices there are no problems at all.

I know, that's why I'm going to ask htc about it.

[TomasNM]

I know, that's why I'm going to ask htc about it.
Thanks. If you get a solution,please share it.

[fotoingo]

OK,now my issues:

I want to:
....
- use cameraLED as a torch as it is possible on Hermes using VJCandela
...

Anyone can provide some solutions for these issues?
Thank you guys.

-> Use the new TorchButton_v1.1.cab ;-) frome here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422367

Greets !

[TomasNM]

-> Use the new TorchButton_v1.1.cab ;-) frome here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422367

Greets !
Thanks,I've found that discussion already. I am there as well,because this is very useful app for me.:)

[Jiggs1337]

I have an issue with links to websites opening in Pocket IE.
For example, in RSS hub, when i click a link, it opens in IE instead of Opera. Is there anyway i can set Opera to be the default browser for all links?

[TomasNM]

I have an issue with links to websites opening in Pocket IE.
For example, in RSS hub, when i click a link, it opens in IE instead of Opera. Is there anyway i can set Opera to be the default browser for all links?
I have opposite problem. I want to use PIE instead of Opera. PIE is quite slow,but PIEPlus additions are much better than stupid(but fast) Opera. For another browsing I am using Opera mini because of the speed and data(and battery therefore) consumption. Yes,old school from Himalaya.

[Flippy_TK]

Thats weird. I have a different ROM, I think there is a HardSPL out now so you could try a different ROM/Radio?

I know I could try a different ROM, but if the problem comes from the hardware and I have to send the machine back to HTC, I'm afraid that the fact of having flashed the ROM might void the warranty.

[paulyluca]

Please check this issue out:Touch Pro answers calls in pocket! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=423043

Any ideas to solve it?

[at10ti0n]

i have managed to see -3mAh while connected on a wall power source by doing this: wifi ON - connected, Power Saving mode: Best Performance and playing on PocketMusic a mp3 from microSD.
That means the battery was draining while connected to powersource.

[thebiscuitboy]

HKCU>ControlPanel>Phone ShowSIM=0

Yep I've tried this more than once, however if you turn the phone off and then back on they re-appear :(

[th1nm1nt]

1: Go into the MMS options in messaging, in the preferences tab select "original" from the "Photo Resolution" menu, apply it and see if that helps (not sure if it will).

2: pass :( try using the soft keyboard instead and see if you can get past that stage.


1: The default was original. I have selected SXGA (1280x1024) right now, which does have the image/video larger than "original", but is still rather small. I have found a work around of saving the image, then opening the image in the Album. It is not a preference to do this everytime.

Anyone else have a thought on how to make picture/video messages hold a larger image? Is there a registry edit that can be done somewhere?

2: I have used the soft keyboard, qwerty keyboard, even tried to move the cursor around before selecting "Next". The passcode still deletes every time I select "Next", not allowing my to create a bluetooth relationship.

Does anyone know how to create the relationship from the PC to the phone? I used my wizard (part of Window's Bluetooth Places), but it does not recognize the Touch Pro as to having PIM Syncro capabilities. I am dying to sync with BT again. Everytime I use the USB, I get booted off my remote connection with my office. Becoming a big hastle!

[joymike]

I have been playing with the TP for almost a week now.
I was waiting for Sony Xperia forever, but it is delayed and delayed and delayed, and rumours last week saying it's going to be end of the year or early next year before it will be released... I decided not to wait and get TP instead.


So far quite happy with it, except it crashed on my last night after I uninstalled one of the SIPs. The whole touch screen stopped working altogether. I had to hard reset and reinstall everything.

The touch screen was a bit hard to use before, until I used the Auto Config 3.1 to increase the touch sensitivity, pressure threshold to Very High, then it is a lot easier to use.

Very annoyed with the D-Pad. It's quite stupid really, as when I press the left or right button, I always triggered the buttons in the corner (home, dial, hangup, back etc), so that it quits my current program.

The touch-sensitive enter button (where you touch the rim of the circle button) is very inconsistent. In RSS Hub program for example, when you touch clockwise, it will go down, anticlockwise will go up.
In other programs it act as a zoom in/out button, or text size increase/decrease. Sometimes it doesn't work altogether.

Also, on one occassion, the whole screen display is distorted completely. Ended up having to soft reset. I think perhaps one of the display drivers didn't load properly.

Other than that, quite smooth!!!! Still love this phone!

[klabton]

I have a question.
When I run navigation, the phone is getting very warm. I'm sure it's GPS.
Can anyone confirm that behavior?

[cribeiro]

I have a question.
When I run navigation, the phone is getting very warm. I'm sure it's GPS.
Can anyone confirm that behavior?

I have the same problem.

[DeadMeat]

When i woke up this morning and i want to check the time, this is what my phone looked like. (see attachment)

Hey WatskeBart, all, did anyone find out what was causing this or a fix?
Has happened to me three times now and seems to be getting more frequent :S
Any help appreciated.

DM.

[12aon]

Quote:
Originally Posted by TomasNM
HKCU>ControlPanel>Phone ShowSIM=0

Yep I've tried this more than once, however if you turn the phone off and then back on they re-appear

Use schap's latest advanced config. tool (3.2). I tried some of the other sim contacts fixes, but this was the only one working for me

[htcplussony]

Noticed a couple more things.

I 'enabled display the clock on the title bar in all programs' but now I find I can't disable it completely. The clock still shows up in landscape mode.

Got some shell32 errors when I exit from 'sounds & notifications' but went away when I disabled auto configuration in 'connection setup'.

[groofoo]

just something i stumble upon.

when you take a picture or a video, the camera function is layed out in landscape mode.
then you take a shot, and close the camera app.

then if you want to take a look at youre picture in album viewer.
the picture is rotated 90 degrees.
and if you rotate the device to landscape the picture auto rotates back 90 degrees.

i mean the auto rotate function is fun.
but for youre own taken shot`s it is not good.

anyone got the same annoying thing?

[FOSA]

QUOTE

"then if you want to take a look at youre picture in album viewer.
the picture is rotated 90 degrees.
and if you rotate the device to landscape the picture auto rotates back 90 degrees."


Nope. NO such problem. There is an angle whereby the landsacpe changes to portrait mode and vice versa when you hold the camera in your hand

Some interesting issues though

1) If you put your camera FLAT on the table the picture will NOT rotate despite rotating the camera

2) Press the picture and HOLD it for a split second (ie. without the 4 icons appearing) and you'll see a white square box outline appears on the top left corner of the screen. In this instance you can see the picture moves slightly on the screen. NOt sure whats the purpose of this action

[kempas]

QUOTE
Some interesting issues though

1) If you put your camera FLAT on the table the picture will NOT rotate despite rotating the camera


That's not an issue though is it since if the device is horizontal then it has no way of knowing which way you are looking at it from since gravity will have no effect on the tilt sensors. Bit like putting a spirit level on a table and rotating it...

[cristopher]

QUOTE

2) Press the picture and HOLD it for a split second (ie. without the 4 icons appearing) and you'll see a white square box outline appears on the top left corner of the screen. In this instance you can see the picture moves slightly on the screen. NOt sure whats the purpose of this action

If you zoom in on the picture and then try the same thing you will see this white square represents the shape of the foto and will have a small square in it which is the area you have zoomed in to. You can drag around to see other parts of the picture and you will always know at what part of the photo your looking.

[trinode]

just something i stumble upon.

when you take a picture or a video, the camera function is layed out in landscape mode.
then you take a shot, and close the camera app.

then if you want to take a look at youre picture in album viewer.
the picture is rotated 90 degrees.
and if you rotate the device to landscape the picture auto rotates back 90 degrees.

i mean the auto rotate function is fun.
but for youre own taken shot`s it is not good.

anyone got the same annoying thing?

Yes! drives me nuts, the picure is the wrong way, so you turn the ohone and it "corrects" it back to the wrong way

[Syphon Filter]

just something i stumble upon.

when you take a picture or a video, the camera function is layed out in landscape mode.
then you take a shot, and close the camera app.

then if you want to take a look at youre picture in album viewer.
the picture is rotated 90 degrees.
and if you rotate the device to landscape the picture auto rotates back 90 degrees.

i mean the auto rotate function is fun.
but for youre own taken shot`s it is not good.

anyone got the same annoying thing?

I dont think I understand the issue.

If I take a shot with the phone held in landscape adn then try to view said shot in portrait it shrinks the image to fit. If you then rotate the phone to landscape it displays the image as it was taken.

Surely that is the correct thing for it to do?

[FOSA]

Ok, here's one real issue

Did anyone manage to save the contacts to the SIM card? It says 'Mobile Error' when I tried to.


Thanks

[sonhy]

Sometimes the sensors dont work and the picture is saved in landscape mode when it should be portrait. You will just have to use an image editor like SPB Imager to manually rotate the image and save it.
Otherwise before you take a shot, rotate the phone a bit to make sure the sensors are aligned and then take your shoot.

[Scorpia]

Ok, here's one real issue

Did anyone manage to save the contacts to the SIM card? It says 'Mobile Error' when I tried to.

Thanks

I can agree with that. I've searched for weeks and came up with nothing. That "Mobile Error" is a pain in the ass. I need to keep using my spare phone to save contacts. And I'm using an Elf, not a Raphael.

[leebo]

I've done a search for my issue but found no mention of it. There is a thread over at AT&T's forums, but very few reply's (and no fix).

I just got the AT&T Fuze last week. I believe this is the correct thread to post in, if not would someone please let me know?

I loaded several albums of mp3's onto my Fuze using an XP computer and WMP 10 to rip and convert the songs to mp3's at 256 kbs.

Occasionally, while playing these files there will be a hiccup, or fraction of a second of silence during playback. It does not seem to matter which file, and it's never at the same point in time during a song. I'm using a wired headset, not BT. It's almost as though there's a short in my headset, except I've tried two headsets and it has made no difference.

Since I have found very few posts about this issue (if there are posts about this here would someone point me in the right direction?), I assume it is not a common issue with the Fuze. If that's the case, should I exchange my unit for another? If this is a known issue with no fix, I want to return the phone b4 my 30 days are up.

I'm running the stock firmware from AT&T. Thanks.

[leebo]

Interesting post I found today, dated Jan. 16, 2009. Check out #5:



Posted by Jack Cook on 01/16/09 in HTC

diamondFor those European users that have the HTC Touch Diamond, there is ROM update available on HTC’s European site for you to download. We can only hope that other areas of the world will soon have an upgrade available for them as well.

Improved Functions and Fixes

1. When you launch the Camera while the system is working on other programs, the preview screen may become black.

2. When playing a video, sometimes a portion of the video will be cut off a little bit.

3. Fixes Audio playback problem with the speaker. Specific issues: sometimes the music will turn off and on after 10 minutes, or there is a buzzing sound or no sound at all.

4. Fixes the problem of not being able to receive MMS when in standby mode.

5. When launching music via the Music tab on TouchFLO 3D, the sound may intermittently turn off for a second and come back on.



Sounds like my issue. I wonder if there will be a rom update for the Fuze.

[phobilicious]

Hi everyone.

I have a Touch Pro which is standard apart from the two minor speedboost mods posted elsewhere on this forum (they work great by the way, thanks).

I am having a bit of a problem with the keyboard and the TF3d landscape menu associated with it.

Firstly, when I slide the keyboard out and press one of the options, say the calendar, it will open but then after about a secondit will go back to the TF3d landscape screen. On the second attempt it stays open. This happens about 75% of the time.

The keyboard often has a long delay (up to about 15 seconds) which can mean I have typed a sentence before it decides to display it on the screen! Very annoying :(

Any ideas?

Hey guys! Thats what bothers me the most actually :(
Is there yet a solution available?
For me it's that way: i get ne sms go to SMS Tab of Touch FLow then i read it and go to menu (right softbutton) and klick reply... so far so good ;)
Then i switch quickly to landscape mode because the reply box is already there but if i start typing nothing apears on screen just a few seconds later the TouchFlow landscape menu appears and my sms reply seems to be gone... Thats really anoying... can't you disable the landscape menu to appear if you slide to landscape view? that would be enough for me...

[jessiethe3rd]

I have an issue that only appears when I use the hardware keyboard. The unit goes into portrait mode when I start typing and then pops back into landscape mode - it does it over and over again. Sometimes it stops... then it starts again. :confused:

[NLS]

That's not a common issue.
Maybe something you installed?

However you seem to be the second to report this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476055

[killerscene14]

1. TF3D: I am having issues with tf3d locking up completely and having to disable/reenable tf3d to get it to work again or soft reset

2. Battery: About 50% of the time my battery will not last me all day, usually this is when it is connected to my computer and i am adding apps and doing some mods. I also noticed that my phone gets really hot when it is connected to my pc via usb.

Anyone else having these problems?

[phobilicious]

yeah noticed this too....
i have to try a custom rom sometime...
Sometimes my phone lasts 2-3 days, somtimes not only a day.
Today e.g. i was snowboarding with lots of cell changes and it is still at 85%
The day befor yesterday i was just driving home from work (30 min) and the battery was at 74%.
Don't have a clue. Not even close :(

[phobilicious]

If anyone notices the same thing with his standard rom, try custom roms like ROMeOS. They are smokin when it comes to battery life. OK one must say, if you use it constantly, the battery does not last very long, but if you just stay on standby (and dont supiditly let the Task manager run with CPU Tab in background like i sometimes do) then the battery lasts really long. Did not test it yet and i am sure it doesn't compete with my Nokia 6300 businessphone, but it's really long enough ;) (aprox. 4-5 days)

[novaIS350]

Not sure if anyone mentioned the loose screen/slider issue. I've been doing some searches, apparently its a big problem with the Fuze. Some people are reporting rock solid sliders, others have the same wobbly/loose slider screen like me. It's annoying as hell.

[phobilicious]

I have also noticed that the slider makes very loose noise when sliding open.
I don't know if that's what you mean but it makes me go crazy.
The only thing that doesn't bother me is that the screen, when open, is also fix and not "wobbly" like you mentioned, so thats not a huge but an anoying problem :mad:

[gelavalon]

Right, I can't see an Issues list for this device yet so I'll start one:

1. A couple of times now, I've left my phone to charge overnight and woke up to an unresponsive device. Power button does nothing, screen is off and only way to get it device back up and running is to poke the soft-reset button OR remove and reinsert the battery.

2. Unresponsive buttons: every now and then the "right" button of the D-Pad does nothing, then suddenly it will start working again, same with the "Back" button though much more infrequent/noticable than the D-Pad issue I've experienced.

I have had the first problem too. In addition to the overnight charge, my phone will not respond after a long phone call. It acts as if it turned off. It has taken several soft resets to get it to turn back on. :(