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adwiel2
7th September 2008, 11:04 AM
I would like to be able to record an telephone call by pushing a softkey.
I have HTC voice recorder installed, but it is not easy to activate recording while in a call.
Also as far as I know, there is only the possibility to program ONE hardwarekey (longpress off hook), and that one is already occupied by another program.
So I wondered whether it is somehow possible to program the softkeys that appear when I am involved in a call?
Or do you know another possiblity to activate call recording simply?

x-sergo
7th September 2008, 11:57 AM
im interested too!

caved
7th September 2008, 12:19 PM
Hi there,
I don't know if this helps ur case but when you use actionscreen you can program your softkeys under the today tab, might be possible te get a record button then, not sure but i thought i mention it mine are set to left Action and right Shutdown, anyway hope this helps..

Caved

SkizZO
7th September 2008, 12:43 PM
Can the diamond record both sides of a telephonic call ?

I think no... plz someone can contradicts me ? :)

However you need Softkey Manager for diamond (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2485292#post2485292)

WatskeBart
7th September 2008, 01:31 PM
When you record a call using the voice recorder it only records your own voice, but when you put the call on speakerphone it will record both parties. Probably because of the sound from speaker loops back in to the mic.

I'm already searching so long for a good working call recording tool but still no eureka.:cool:

khuram_b
7th September 2008, 05:04 PM
can somebody not create a program that will record every phone call, in and out, from both parties, id love to have something like that. much better than the standard.

SkizZO
7th September 2008, 05:44 PM
it's an hardware limitation af all windows mobile based pdas

Evoluti0n
7th September 2008, 06:14 PM
resco audio recorder can auto record, but the other party voice will be slightly softer

arvidh
7th September 2008, 07:01 PM
You could also try Vito Audio Notes Touch. It also has an option to record all calls automatically. http://www.iwindowsmobile.com/mobile-audio-recorder.html

psionandy
7th September 2008, 07:15 PM
it's an hardware limitation af all windows mobile based pdas


Its a hardware limitation of all HTC based Windows mobile based PDAs... Some others can do it but not many. It's enough to drive a user to symbian ;)

adwiel2
7th September 2008, 09:38 PM
resco audio recorder can auto record, but the other party voice will be slightly softer

I just installed this one.
The loudness of the recording of the other party seems just enough.

I don't want to record all calls.
THe program also offers the possibility to assign actions like 'start recording' to a hardware button. I tried several buttons (off hook, left, action, home), but none of them work, or have already another function, during a call.
A possible option could be to have an extra touch button on the screen when you are involved in a call (just like the button to put a call on hold). But I don't know how that could be done.
ANy ideas?

adwiel2
8th September 2008, 10:30 PM
Today I discovered another unwanted side effect of this recording program.
When I made an phonecaal it appeard that the other party could not hear my voice.
The cause appeared that the recording program was still running in the background. AFter I closed this application the sound was OK again.

On my old nokia phone recording voice calls could be done with one key press

Evoluti0n
9th September 2008, 03:26 PM
think u can try to turn off recording in background so u can view the recording screen during a caqll n stop the recording. i dont have such issue of others no hearing my voice during the recording

tuem
9th September 2008, 06:35 PM
it's strange that such little feature, that so many other phones have had in the past, is so hard to get on an htc device. and funnily enough, i remember reading in manual for the original touch, that before recording a call you have to check whether it's legal and inform the other side... so there's gotta be a way ;)

maybe someone feels like taking a challenge of making a simple app, that would allow you to record the conversations?:rolleyes:

kourampies
10th September 2008, 04:00 AM
the only htc device i ive used that supports recording of both sides is htc startrek :)

roisagi
10th September 2008, 06:27 AM
there must be a way to record both sides of a phone call (without a speaker...)

stemill
10th September 2008, 11:47 AM
there must be a way to do this, if the audio stream cannot be accessed programatically how do bluetooth headsets work?

i'm sure there would be lots of cool applications for this if someone could work it out, but it never seems to arouse much interest in the techie experts on here when i've mentioned it in the past.

Aqrab
10th September 2008, 01:11 PM
in my very old WM5 smartphone SP5 it can record the call of both sides with a good quality by using this program

(not tested in the diamond try it if you want)

roisagi
10th September 2008, 01:22 PM
tesing it..

roisagi
10th September 2008, 01:50 PM
installed it on my diamond - it seems to work - but there is no option to record phone calls...
+ \there is an automates answering machine caleled: "isecretary" - it canrecord incommind phonecalls- maybe they have found a solution??

tommm
11th September 2008, 12:57 PM
installed it on my diamond - it seems to work - but there is no option to record phone calls...
+ \there is an automates answering machine caleled: "isecretary" - it canrecord incommind phonecalls- maybe they have found a solution??

Really works, but absolutely donīt know how to set it to record calls - it seems that itīs not possible or what:confused:

Aqrab
11th September 2008, 02:27 PM
Really works, but absolutely donīt know how to set it to record calls - it seems that itīs not possible or what:confused:

you must do it menually

when you in a call jast go and run the program and press record

that what i did in my old sp5

adwiel2
12th September 2008, 08:33 PM
Found the solution!:)
Today I discovered that recording a telephone call is a standard feature of Windows mobile 6.1 on Diamond.

Make a call.
Take out the stylus; this starts the standard 'notes' application.
Select menu->view recording tool
Now a call recording tool appears at the bottom of the screen, and you can start recording.

The only optimization would be to be able to set the recording tool visibility always on. Any tips? Registry setting to do this?

NLS
12th September 2008, 09:12 PM
man this only records one side

emilceteras
12th September 2008, 09:22 PM
vito audio notes touch works perfect. why don't you try it. this thread can be marked as solved

NLS
12th September 2008, 09:49 PM
in fact I read that Vito Audio Notes also cannot record both sides on Diamond

emilceteras
13th September 2008, 05:37 AM
in fact I read that Vito Audio Notes also cannot record both sides on Diamond

I am using Vito audio notes

angler
13th September 2008, 07:22 AM
Yes, Vito Audio Notes v1.32 seems working fine in Touch Diamond. It can record 2 sides phone call in wav or mp3 file. I would try for this 14 days trial period to see does it worth and really works flawlessly, or still can record phone call with bluetooth headset?

andrewloh
13th September 2008, 08:32 AM
Found the solution!:)
Today I discovered that recording a telephone call is a standard feature of Windows mobile 6.1 on Diamond.

Make a call.
Take out the stylus; this starts the standard 'notes' application.
Select menu->view recording tool
Now a call recording tool appears at the bottom of the screen, and you can start recording.

The only optimization would be to be able to set the recording tool visibility always on. Any tips? Registry setting to do this?

brainstorm.
is it possible to change the phone Dailer theme and make a "Record" button there ?

roisagi
13th September 2008, 09:43 AM
tried vito audio - other side sounds very weak...

emilceteras
13th September 2008, 10:32 AM
tried vito audio - other side sounds very weak...

...but it sounds:)

NLS
13th September 2008, 09:36 PM
hmmmmm

...half measures...

desaparecido500@gmail.com
14th September 2008, 09:13 PM
Everything what is offered here is not record other party or sound from other party is very week
heave to search something other

NLS
14th September 2008, 10:31 PM
exactly - been saying so

giovag7
7th October 2008, 06:14 PM
Hi there,
I don't know if this helps ur case but when you use actionscreen you can program your softkeys under the today tab, might be possible te get a record button then, not sure but i thought i mention it mine are set to left Action and right Shutdown, anyway hope this helps..

Caved

Where can i find this action screen? I've never seen like this. Thank you.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=111508&d=1220782726

NLS
7th October 2008, 09:25 PM
Did you even look?

I have magic word for you: Google

torankusu
7th October 2008, 10:14 PM
Where can i find this action screen? I've never seen like this. Thank you.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=111508&d=1220782726

hi guys,

isn't that shutxp with a diamond skin?

NLS
7th October 2008, 10:24 PM
right...
"shutxp" on top left, should hint us shouldn't it?

defaria
24th October 2008, 10:41 PM
Its a hardware limitation of all HTC based Windows mobile based PDAs... Some others can do it but not many. It's enough to drive a user to symbian ;)

It's no hardware limitation as Vito Audio Notes does it! On HTC Touch Diamond!

What I want: The ability to play a prerecorded message directly to a current call. Picture this: How many times are you frustrated having to answer 20 questions to identify yourself to the company you've just called up even to ask the simplest of questions? How about instead:

Techrep: I'd be glad to help you sir if you could answer a few simple questions to verify your account. First what's your name?
You: One second... (click - prerecorded message plays back): Hello. You are about to experience the newest of conveniences! Auto Identifier 2008! That's right! With this handy application all of your identification needs are handled. Please hold on while we receive the proper records.... OK. My full and legal name is xxxxxx xxxxx. My address is 123 Main Street...

(2 minutes later):

You: OK you got all of that? Let's move forward...

angler
25th October 2008, 04:01 AM
What I want: The ability to play a prerecorded message directly to a current call. Picture this: How many times are you frustrated having to answer 20 questions to identify yourself to the company you've just called up even to ask the simplest of questions? ...

What you want is not software that can record telephone call, is a super smart phone that understand to response some sort of questions. The phone needs to digest the question and answer relevantly in order to give you entrance to ask for. :D

NLS
25th October 2008, 08:37 AM
Defaria I have to decide if you are funny or clueless. :)
I think the first, but your mention about Vito leads me to the second.
You see Vito Audio Notes does NOT work correctly on the Diamond (i.e. record both sides without using speakerphone). You probably "heard it somewhere" right?

Seifer
26th October 2008, 11:52 AM
i have tried resco and vito but they both seem to be useless if you don't want to record only your voice.

isnt really a way to properly record calls in diamond?

thebase
26th October 2008, 02:14 PM
Hi ,PMrecorder work very fine on my qtek 8500 and on trinity too,you can find it here: http://www.1800message.com/usepmr.aspx
Give it a try.
Bye Base

Seifer
26th October 2008, 02:54 PM
Hi ,PMrecorder work very fine on my qtek 8500 and on trinity too,you can find it here: http://www.1800message.com/usepmr.aspx
Give it a try.
Bye Base

Thank you for your recommendation but its the same as resco and vito, only one way recording.

we need something else.

Stiangtr
28th October 2008, 04:22 AM
my sony ericsson w880i recorded both sides without having the need too share ur call with the rest of the bus.

cougarz
30th November 2008, 09:43 AM
Thank you for your recommendation but its the same as resco and vito, only one way recording.

we need something else.
Resco Audio Recorder 4.01 does record both sides of the conversation on an Australian 850 Next G Diamond. The only time you dont get both sides of the conversation is when using a bluetooth style headset.

I also own a TYTN II and P3600i which won't do both sides of the conversation. The Diamond definitely does and I use this function all the time and have lots of recorded conversations.

roisagi
30th November 2008, 10:28 AM
does it record both sides in same volume? regularly?

oqaab
30th November 2008, 08:46 PM
Resco Audio Recorder 4.01 does record both sides of the conversation on an Australian 850 Next G Diamond. The only time you dont get both sides of the conversation is when using a bluetooth style headset.

I also own a TYTN II and P3600i which won't do both sides of the conversation. The Diamond definitely does and I use this function all the time and have lots of recorded conversations.

cougarz we are talking about general and NOT only Australian 850 Next G Diamond so if someone has working solution than only state otherwise please don't.

kourampies
30th November 2008, 10:56 PM
Resco Audio Recorder 4.01 does record both sides of the conversation on an Australian 850 Next G Diamond. The only time you dont get both sides of the conversation is when using a bluetooth style headset.

I also own a TYTN II and P3600i which won't do both sides of the conversation. The Diamond definitely does and I use this function all the time and have lots of recorded conversations.
that doesnt work on the european gsm diamond (p3700).

toibry
8th May 2009, 06:40 PM
Why I Secretary can’t mute the microphone of my xperia x1 and why the caller can’t hear my answer message
How can I fix this using registry or any tweak tool for windows mobile 6.1

thanks

3dward87
11th July 2009, 02:34 PM
Hi,

I am using Vito Audio Notes Touch 1.03, and work flawlessly on my HTC DIAMOND P3700 (DIAM 100), it recording both sides but one thing...

The other side it`s very weak sound recording...

On my ETEN X800, is strong !! because i have been use a microphone boost..

And my question, is there any microphone boost / audio boost to increase default volume more ??

Cheers,
3dward


EDIT: I already tried with differnet ROMS :
[ROM Jan 07 WWE] Duttys 5.2.20764.1.4.3 [2.03]
[ROM][WWE][5 OCT] SwiftBL Diamond ROM V7.5 Full+Lite [01216MBPP][Full CE 5.2.20755]
Shaks.Pv4.30Full_TopazKB

And different RADIOs:
Diamond_Radio_1.00.25.05.nbh
Diamond_Radio_1.09.25.23.nbh


THE RESULT:
SAME !

3dward87
17th July 2009, 11:23 PM
Nobody ?? i am on different topic ??

please help

ja-marcin
21st July 2009, 11:52 PM
there is an app called auto call recorder
of course it dosen`t do the trick and won`t record loud and clear both sides, but huge advantage is that can automaticly record phone call

some guy found solution for kaiser (some registry changes) to record both sides. don`t know why but it doesn`t work on my diamond. maybe on yours?

3dward87
26th July 2009, 11:10 PM
I have posted already, its recording on both sides, but with lower volume..

ldmelo
11th August 2009, 04:16 PM
I have posted already, its recording on both sides, but with lower volume..

Ok... Let's make it clear. If it were recording both channels (mic and incomming audio), the other speaker would be as clear and as loud as your voice.

You are getting lower volume because only mic is being recorded, the other party reaches mic as a residual feedback from the diamond speaker. If you turn on speakerphone it would be better, of course, but still not the ideal solution, because sound would be distorted and everybody would listen to your conversation.

Any news on this topic?????????????

3dward87
12th August 2009, 11:59 AM
Ok... Let's make it clear. If it were recording both channels (mic and incomming audio), the other speaker would be as clear and as loud as your voice.

You are getting lower volume because only mic is being recorded, the other party reaches mic as a residual feedback from the diamond speaker. If you turn on speakerphone it would be better, of course, but still not the ideal solution, because sound would be distorted and everybody would listen to your conversation.

Any news on this topic?????????????

10x for clear explanation !!!

My mistake... so no solution so far ??

ja-marcin
14th August 2009, 02:10 AM
we`re all waiting

ackid32
14th August 2009, 07:05 AM
Im searching for an call recording software over 3 months and i tested almost all available recording software available for win mobile. All are useful for oneway recording. If u switch on the speaker then the recording quality of the other side improved.

After reading many articles on recording calls. i found that this is a drawback of HTC models. Unless they rectify it, we do nothing on this count.

ldmelo
14th August 2009, 04:25 PM
Im searching for an call recording software over 3 months and i tested almost all available recording software available for win mobile. All are useful for oneway recording. If u switch on the speaker then the recording quality of the other side improved.

After reading many articles on recording calls. i found that this is a drawback of HTC models. Unless they rectify it, we do nothing on this count.

Strang thing is that there are some reports of diamong being able to record both sides of the conversation, like in ppcgeeks and ACR (xda).

For now I am imagining it only works on CDMA Diamonds, but trying to confirm.

I just can't accept it would be a HW issue - it is just a matter of accessing line audio stream and adding up with the mic stream - not a big deal. My opinion: it is a lack of drivers/firmware.

Some people say it works with PDACornerIllusion ROM - I will test it this weekend.

3dward87
16th August 2009, 05:08 AM
...............
I just can't accept it would be a HW issue - it is just a matter of accessing line audio stream and adding up with the mic stream - not a big deal. My opinion: it is a lack of drivers/firmware.

Some people say it works with PDACornerIllusion ROM - I will test it this weekend.

Wait for your answer.. !

ldmelo
17th August 2009, 02:32 AM
Wait for your answer.. !

Did the following:

1. Installed PDACornerIllusion ROM - no success;
2. Installed monx in call recorder - nothing...;
3. Installed two way record - no success again.

Well... I give up. Perhaps it is just a mith - no way to record both sides of the conversation with a GSM Diamond.

stevensp
17th August 2009, 08:22 PM
sighz...disappointed

venuz
18th August 2009, 01:08 PM
i have a russian rom for gsm diamond which allow line recording and also i've made a samples recorded by ICR from line with handsfree. just one problems - rom is very unstable. based on 21068 build and 2.6 drivers. also tried other roms with this drivers set without success, so i think it is a registry policies related problem, not hardware. anyone can give me a hint how to extract full registry database from nbh-file? it will be interesting and may be usefull to compare values with other roms.

tonio94
20th August 2009, 10:06 AM
Did the following:

1. Installed PDACornerIllusion ROM - no success;
2. Installed monx in call recorder - nothing...;
3. Installed two way record - no success again.

Well... I give up. Perhaps it is just a mith - no way to record both sides of the conversation with a GSM Diamond.

It's not a mith. It used to have it working on a PDACorner's V2 or V3. I got it working on my own custom ROM thanks to this one.
Both side recording with the same volume.

It is a driver related issue, not a hardware limitation !!!

also tried other roms with this drivers set without success, so i think it is a registry policies related problem, not hardware. anyone can give me a hint how to extract full registry database from nbh-file? it will be interesting and may be usefull to compare values with other roms.

To extract the registry, you need to extract user.hv (for HKCU) and default.hv (for the others) and convert them to rgu but it's a lost of time.

Here's how I did :
prerequisite : test on PDACorner V2 and v3 to check if it's working
1) Take PDACorner V3 and dump it (protected but you can still dump the files)
2) Take your favorite kitchen
3) Replace file by file every file from OEM\Drivers by the one from PDACorner
4) Build.... Recording both side...

stevensp
20th August 2009, 01:24 PM
so it's working?

tonio94
20th August 2009, 02:10 PM
Yes it's working on my device.

I worked on this a few month ago but I could try to find back my kitchen if interested.

ja-marcin
4th September 2009, 12:44 AM
It's not a mith. It used to have it working on a PDACorner's V2 or V3. I got it working on my own custom ROM thanks to this one.
Both side recording with the same volume.

It is a driver related issue, not a hardware limitation !!!



To extract the registry, you need to extract user.hv (for HKCU) and default.hv (for the others) and convert them to rgu but it's a lost of time.

Here's how I did :
prerequisite : test on PDACorner V2 and v3 to check if it's working
1) Take PDACorner V3 and dump it (protected but you can still dump the files)
2) Take your favorite kitchen
3) Replace file by file every file from OEM\Drivers by the one from PDACorner
4) Build.... Recording both side...

hey
is there a way that doesn`t require cooking my own rom?
cause i don`t how to cook and there is a really great polish rom i like...

3dward87
20th September 2009, 07:10 PM
@tonio94 seems u found the solution !

Most of us we are noob`s in cooking... so please if u could talk to Shaks to improve his very good ROM with this modify :D

( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462455&page=197 )


BIG Thank`s !!!!!!

schmeichler
20th September 2009, 09:27 PM
Don't know if he cares to share - or has the time to ;)
But you might want to ask yozgatg after reading about his upcoming relase: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4484955#post4484955

Most probably I am moving to TD2 myself so I will not be using his ROM - incallrec would be nice to have in different ROMs though for sure

pacho_bs
24th September 2009, 11:14 PM
I'm using this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536472

ja-marcin
25th September 2009, 06:29 PM
wow, that`s great
but is it related with the problem we`re discussing?
it`s not the problem how to record coneversation but how to do this and be able to record both sides loud and clear

pacho_bs
25th September 2009, 08:06 PM
wow, that`s great
but is it related with the problem we`re discussing?
it`s not the problem how to record coneversation but how to do this and be able to record both sides loud and clear

It's working fine for me. It's loud and clear. You can play with settings if you want to make a choice of quality that will be good for you ;)
It's auto recording of Incoming, Outgoing or both wiith option 'Ask to save' at the end of the call.

3dward87
23rd January 2010, 03:13 AM
Any solutions by now ??