t-mo's 3g networks/phones avail...bummed

[suprajztwenty]

im not sure why i just expected my dash to be 3g enabled...i just figured that when tmo would roll it out theyd give ya a new sim and viola!...so when i call and ask when, effin tmo says YES, we have 3g in dallas (so im all excited...bummer) anyways, instead of paying 400 bux early termination JUST to have faster net with att, im curious to what phones tmo offers that are either similar to dash or better(but under 300 bucks)

my next question, with a 3g sim card...would i be able to just buy an htc (anything cool) or can i use another network's 3g phone and unlock it?

i would really like to keep my dash, but i really want faster net/youtube.
so basically, what are my options for a 3g phone using tmo's network and best htc's phone "bang for the buck"-qwerty or touch doesnt matter.

also, mods-sorry to post this in excalibur, please move or bump if necessary
thanks in advance for the help, much appreciated

[RussianSolja]

im not sure why i just expected my dash to be 3g enabled...i just figured that when tmo would roll it out theyd give ya a new sim and viola!...so when i call and ask when, effin tmo says YES, we have 3g in dallas (so im all excited...bummer) anyways, instead of paying 400 bux early termination JUST to have faster net with att, im curious to what phones tmo offers that are either similar to dash or better(but under 300 bucks)

my next question, with a 3g sim card...would i be able to just buy an htc (anything cool) or can i use another network's 3g phone and unlock it?

i would really like to keep my dash, but i really want faster net/youtube.
so basically, what are my options for a 3g phone using tmo's network and best htc's phone "bang for the buck"-qwerty or touch doesnt matter.

also, mods-sorry to post this in excalibur, please move or bump if necessary
thanks in advance for the help, much appreciatedyour gonna have to buy a phone that supports 3G and the dash will never be a 3G phone sorry to say if u want a 3G phone like i said your gonna have to buy an unlocked phone that supports 3G. i myself wish my dash ran on 3G but you cant always get what you want.

[beartard]

That's not going to work either, I'm afraid. T-Mobile bought a wonky new frequency spectrum from the FCC for their 3G network. It's the first time this frequency has been used at all in the world, so you're not going to find a non-tmoUSA phone to use 3G on tmo's network. As much as I like them (and assuming it's not just the FCC's fault), this could be another shrewd form of a subsidy lock.

Also, to reinforce this point, it's extremely difficult for manufacturers to include all the voice bands and all the data bands on current phones as it is. It will be even more difficult to find a true "world phone" anymore that works with 3G as well as voice, both around the world and at home on tmo.

To see a list of new phones coming out, check http://tmonews.com/forums/index.php?topic=112.0. Some of them support 3G.

[showaco]

That's not going to work either, I'm afraid. T-Mobile bought a wonky new frequency spectrum from the FCC for their 3G network. It's the first time this frequency has been used at all in the world, so you're not going to find a non-tmoUSA phone to use 3G on tmo's network. As much as I like them, this was another shrewd subsidy lock.

Also, to reinforce this point, it's extremely difficult for manufacturers to include all the voice bands and all the data bands on current phones as it is. It will be even more difficult to find a true "world phone" anymore that works with 3G around the world as well as voice.
what frequency did they get? current att 3g is 1900, isn't it?

[beartard]

I think it's 1700

Here's an October 2006 article from endgadget:

As expected (http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/04/t-mobile-to-announce-3g-plans-soon/), T-Mobile has provided full disclosure today on exactly what it plans to do with all that juicy spectrum picked up in this summer's FCC auctions. Having been left out of the 3G race put on by its fellow national carriers, it comes as no surprise that T-Mobile has officially committed to rolling out UMTS / HSDPA on the 1700 and 2100MHz bands at a cost of some $2.1 billion. Unfortunately, the specrum is a few megahertz off from the UMTS 2100 used elsewhere, meaning existing 3G handsets designed to operate in Europe will be relegated to doing their 2.5G thing when roaming stateside; that being said, beggars can't be choosers, and we're sure T-Mobile is ecstatic to simply have somewhere to drop some next-gen data. Perhaps understanding that the wireless customer base at large can be both fickle and impatient, the nation's fourth-largest carrier is wasting no time getting its 3G equipment set up -- the rollout begins, like, now (they claim half of NYC's hardware is already in place) and will continue through the next several years, with compatible handsets and peripherals hitting retail sometime in mid 2007. Seeing how we're writing this very article from a 3G connection ourselves, all we can say is that it can't come a moment too soon.

Which means that a "world phone" now would have to be 1900/850 for cingular 3G, 1700/2100 for T-mobile USA and an additional 2100 band for Europe, ASIA and everywhere else.

[Technology]

1700/2100 Aws ......!

[driguez]

You can always look into the G1 (Googles Android) It will be a bad ass phone/smart/pda/whatever u wanna call it... Looks wise its not all that BUT just bc of all its capable of, it will be WELL worth it, google it ;) BTW i read somewhere on the net the G1 will be available to us T-mo users starting at $200, dont quote me on that though. There are rumors it will be released in about a month or so (Sept 17). I cant freaking wait!!!!!! :D



BTW heres a pic leaked online, looks a LOT better in black

http://www.mobilehornet.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/htc-dream.JPG

[RussianSolja]

You can always look into the G1 (Googles Android) It will be a bad ass phone/smart/pda/whatever u wanna call it... Looks wise its not all that BUT just bc of all its capable of, it will be WELL worth it, google it ;) BTW i read somewhere on the net the G1 will be available to us T-mo users starting at $200, dont quote me on that though. There are rumors it will be released in about a month or so (Sept 17). I cant freaking wait!!!!!! :D



BTW heres a pic leaked online, looks a LOT better in black

http://www.mobilehornet.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/htc-dream.JPGthats faulse information it will not be coming out september 17th nore will the presale be comeing out that day it has been pushed to september 23rd according to Android Community.com i am very excited about this phone and cant wait to buy it i shall be one of the 1st 100 people to have that phone. :)