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GriFolle
17th September 2008, 05:44 PM
I'm currently using the full animated manila (1.1.30...or something like that) on my fabulous Dutty's v2 UltraLite ROM...and trying to modify some images, using Manila Editor, I've seen that are present some image files that in other tf3d versions are used by "mode9" (I think this is the file where are contained all manila "rules") to let the manila landscape launcher active...

So: anyone could explain what have to do (if it's possible!) to make launcher active in landscape visual on this manila version?

Thank you guys...

gama.tan
17th September 2008, 06:52 PM
whew, it would be nice if someone could do this..
:)

ahirshfield
18th September 2008, 12:30 AM
Hi all,

As far as I am aware, this has only been successfully implemented on the Diamond in Bepe's bElite ROM. He uses 'Gnes' - his own incarnation of GSen - to control the orientation. I don't believe Gnes adds any extra functionality as far as menus within TouchFlo3D, or even that is a requirement to trigger the landscape event, after all the Raphael manages without Gsen! I cannot identify why this rom's TF3D works in landscape (displays special menu), while other's do not.

Below are some relevant quotes from Dutty's thread which may be of some relevance:

Dutty et al,
<snip>
26948339_manila (in /Windows) is an XML file used by Manila to control the tabs, options, menus and icons within TF3D.
We regularly change this file manually, inserting relevant XML code, to incorporate the Call History Tab, Active Clock Icon and Custom Calendar.

The replacement of this file by any users attempting to quickly gain Call History (eg. by .cab file) sometimes leaves other Menu functions inoperative as the XML changes slightly between versions of Manila.
But that is a different subject matter. (If anyone is having issues with Manila-extras I am happy to assist!)

One can use WinMerge (http://www.winmerge.org/) to compare ('diff') the content of the Manila XML files to identify particular strings which change from version to version.
This is also how we can manually identify and insert any XML required to incorporate 'Call History' and other functions into the rom's own 26948339_manila, without replacing the file with one built potentially for a different Manila version.

On inspection, the unaltered 26948339_manila file from v1.8 and v2.0 have identified the following changes:

The following image paths which I believe represent the landscape-menu available on the Raphael. This remains inoperative, so I don't know what effect these values have, if any:

<PreloadImage Path="HTC\Assets\Images\LandscapeMenu\BackgroundBorder.q tc" />
<PreloadImage Path="HTC\Assets\Images\LandscapeMenu\BackgroundTile.qtc" />
<PreloadImage Path="HTC\Assets\Images\LandscapeMenu\Button.qtc" />
<PreloadImage Path="HTC\Assets\Images\LandscapeMenu\ButtonFocus.qtc" />
<PreloadImage Path="HTC\Assets\Images\LandscapeMenu\Bookmarks.qtc" />
<PreloadImage Path="HTC\Assets\Images\LandscapeMenu\Calendar.qtc" />
<PreloadImage Path="HTC\Assets\Images\LandscapeMenu\Contacts.qtc" />
<PreloadImage Path="HTC\Assets\Images\LandscapeMenu\Email.qtc" />
<PreloadImage Path="HTC\Assets\Images\LandscapeMenu\Notes.qtc" />
<PreloadImage Path="HTC\Assets\Images\LandscapeMenu\Messages.qtc" />
<PreloadImage Path="HTC\Assets\Images\LandscapeMenu\Icon_newTask.qtc" />
<PreloadImage Path="HTC\Assets\Images\LandscapeMenu\Icon_webSearch.qtc" />

<snip>


<snip>
Have you reverted to a different Manila build? This would also explain the larger font sizes on Home Screen, Messages, etc, and the additional 'landscape' image paths. I attach both unmodified versions of the 26948339_manila file for your understanding and trial with the 1.8 rom's Manila version. <snip>


so the v1.8 manila version is a better one to adapt for v2.1, I think both version were from a raphael rom possibly two different roms, cant remember <snip>



<snip>
The "Landscape" image paths in the 2.0 XML noted in my first post, which are missing in the 1.8 XML, seem to indicate that 1.8 manila may not have been from Raphael? This does not seem to affect any functionality on the Diamond though. (Until of course you can get the Raphael's landscape TF3D menu working in your rom! ;-) <snip>


Unfortunately Bepe is absent from his own thread at the moment, so would not be able to shed any light on how this is working in his rom.
Meanwhile, Dutty is creating what is IMHO the best Diamond rom available, incorporating bleeding-edge versions of every OEM application including TF3D. His latest Manila is from the Raphael, hence the existence of the mode9 Landscape image paths, however it still doesn't have the actual landscape functionality. I am unsure whether Dutty is considering or even interested in implementing this Raphael functionality in his Diamond rom.

In the meantime, Fabliv has done some great work on manipulating the old "Action Screen" to mimic the landscape-style menu albeit via Manila soft-key and in portrait:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422136

Best regards,
Adam R. Hirshfield
T-Mobile UK Ltd.
Core Networks

GriFolle
18th September 2008, 12:28 PM
So...nobody's interested about this?

ahirshfield
6th October 2008, 02:40 AM
It seems Swtos and Alphazero have succeeded in implementing the Manila TouchFlo3D Landscape Menu on the Diamond. They have a Rotation-controlling application called Flip_It which sounds similar to Bepe's Gnes.

Here is my post to them for assistance on understanding this solution:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2737372#post2737372

Best regards,
Adam R. Hirshfield

T-Mobile (UK) Ltd.
Core Networks

swtos
11th October 2008, 12:11 AM
Manila LandScape is fully working with GSensor :)


online for download :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2757813&postcount=535

Riel
16th October 2008, 05:37 PM
I would like to know the place where the landscape-icons refer to (like calender.exe, or notes.exe).

I can change images and referrers, so I can add other icons (would like a comm-managerbutton there for example).

What manila-file is used for landscape-menu?

Riel
21st October 2008, 09:41 AM
:eek::eek:

shadow52
15th February 2009, 10:11 PM
Does anyone know if you have to install the modified manila (landscape) to get flip it to work correctly? My ROM (the stock uk touch pro ROM) already has a landscape menu, but it doesn't trigger when the screen is rotated - you have to slide out the keyboard.

I have been using changescreen, but while this is excellent it doesn't support triggering manila landscape mode. I tried installing wildberry's flipit, but this did nothing - not even screen rotation.

Does anyone know :
1) are there issues with flipit on the Touch Pro?
2) If I persevere and get it working, do I have to install a modified manila to get the landscape manila menu to show?

Cheers all, so much great work on this site :-D

BTW, one of my own discoveries - if you turn on font anti-aliasing on the TP, it causes serious freezes (i'm talking minutes) rotating the screen. I've always turned this on on my wince phones, took me months to find the problem - eventually found a forum somewhere that told me what gwes.exe was (its the aa prog) after it crashed on my phone. Haven't seen this issue posted anywhere else - is there an issues section for Raphael where I should post?