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sardanadixit
25th September 2008, 02:10 PM
Hi,

I accidentally bricked my magician by trying to upgrade a damaged ROM.
Now I am not able to use the mtty.exe to get the backup of ROM on my SD Card. (256 MB)
First of all when I connect my Magician to the PC via USB with SD card inserted - i get the error message "USB Device not recognized" message. I took out the SD card, reconnected to PC and then inserted the SD card back in, started mtty.exe and typed d2s, my Magician's screen goes blank without any progress showing and mtty.exe does not appear to do anything.

Whenever I try to start my Magician - I'm stuck at SERIAL/USB 1.02 Bootloader screen.
I took out the battery, connected my magician to PC and inserted the batter - the magician now boots but gets stuck at I-Mate Splash Screen.
In this state, it can however connect to ActiveSync and I can browse the contents of Phone, Storage and Storage Card at this moment.

Can someone help me in fixing this issue? Much appreciated.

sardanadixit
25th September 2008, 05:51 PM
I managed to start my Magician, but still it is not working properly.

At the I-Mate splash screen, I connected it to my PC, went to \Windows folder >> went to Startup folder. I removed everything from there, restarted my Magician - it automatically went into the bootloader mode (the main issue that i'm facing) I took out the battery from it, while it was connected to PC and reinserted it back quickly. Now it is up and running again, but I can't flash it using USB now, everytime I try to do so - it restarts and sits in the Bootloader mode. I think my bootloader is not allowing me to flash my device.

Can I reflash my bootloader? If yes, then please can someone let me know the detailed procedure?

matrox02
25th September 2008, 11:53 PM
Id get the stock Rom and the No_id rom programmer thing, then use the no_id thing to update the rom while its in boot-loader mode..Oh and i find it helps to reboot my PC and swap to a differant USB port on the pc aswell

sardanadixit
26th September 2008, 09:25 AM
What I think is my Bootloader is damaged, it is not allowing me to flash any ROM. I can bypass the bootloader by taking out the battery while it is connected to the PC (the LED goes red when I take out the battery) and then reinsert the battery. Following this process, it does not goto the Bootloader screen, rather it loads the Windows. But when I soft reset it gets stuck at the Bootloader again.

Some of the files in \Windows folder are also corrupt and I am not able to flash my magician to replace them.

Can anyone give the steps to flash the bootloader - I have the bootloader.bin image from another Magician, but do not know how to flash it. plz help.

sardanadixit
26th September 2008, 05:39 PM
Can anyone help me????? :(

Nokia 3650
27th September 2008, 04:41 AM
Check your inbox, I just sent you the drivers,for you to connect your device.

sardanadixit
28th September 2008, 08:00 AM
Hi, I downloaded the drivers and installed them on my PC, still I can't flash my mobile. Could you let me know how exactly to use these drivers as I might have done something wrong.

While trying to flash the RUU log looks like:
18:38:01:265 [msg] : Version : [1.5.0-1.0.0.1].
18:38:01:265 [msg] : Config Info : [667685],[1],[0],[0].
18:38:01:281 [msg] : RadioFile Not Exist !
18:38:01:281 [msg] : MSystemFile Not Exist !
18:38:01:609 [err] : USE Windows CE Reomte API Error.
18:38:01:609 [msg] : Current Not in CE Mode or in CE Mode but ActiveSync Not Connected.
18:38:05:953 [msg] : Current in BL Mode. Open Port : [\\.\WCEUSBSH001] OK.
18:40:26:593 [err] : BL Get Device Data Error.
18:40:26:593 [msg] : Update Image. CE : [4], MSystem : [0], Radio : [0]
19:09:51:406 [msg] : Check Ac in BL mode. AC : [2]
19:09:52:906 [msg] : IsBL. BL : [1]
19:09:57:921 [msg] : =============================================
19:09:57:921 [msg] : START UpdateCE !
19:09:57:937 [err] : Check SecurityPassword Error.
19:09:57:937 [msg] : START UnInitialization !
19:09:57:937 [msg] : END UnInitialization !
19:09:57:953 [msg] : IsBL. BL : [1]
19:09:57:953 [msg] : START BackCEMode !
19:09:57:968 [err] : BL Set BackCE Flag Error.



and another time I got this:
18:31:02:515 [msg] : Version : [1.5.0].
18:31:02:515 [msg] : Config Info : [776571],[1],[1],[0].
18:31:02:984 [err] : USE Windows CE Reomte API Error.
18:31:02:984 [msg] : Current Not in CE Mode or in CE Mode but ActiveSync Not Connected.
18:31:07:296 [msg] : Current in BL Mode. Open Port : [\\.\WCEUSBSH001] OK.
18:33:27:937 [err] : BL Get Device Data Error.
18:33:27:937 [msg] : IsBL. BL : [1]
18:33:27:937 [msg] : START UnInitialization !
18:33:27:953 [msg] : END UnInitialization !

Nokia 3650
28th September 2008, 06:20 PM
18:38:01:281 [msg] : RadioFile Not Exist !
18:38:01:281 [msg] : MSystemFile Not Exist !

I'd suggest you start testing the device with the stock ROM image (from t-mobile or clubimate's website). This incudes the radio ROM and the extended ROM as well.

Open your device manager (right-click on MY COMPUTER and select MANAGE) then right-click on your PPC hardware, select UPDATE DRIVER. Browse to where you unzipped the drivers, and select WCEBUSH. (Driver is now successfully installed).

Manually place your phone in bootloader mode, then start the RUU update (using the NO_ID version). It should complete with no problems.

sardanadixit
29th September 2008, 01:38 PM
Thank you for the reply. I did exactly as you suggested but still the flashing is not complete. It gives me the same error everytime. Anymore suggestions?

sardanadixit
2nd October 2008, 10:45 AM
Is there no chance of my Magician coming back to life?

Nokia 3650
3rd October 2008, 06:06 AM
I'm still thinking about the soloution. Your phone can enter bootloader, so its not a paperweight just yet. Give me another day or two to make a beter suggestion.

sardanadixit
3rd October 2008, 12:41 PM
Thank you, eagerly waiting for your reply.

What I did was tried to upgrade my 2.03 TX ROM to 2.06 which I later discovered that was a Himalayan ROM. Maybe that helps.

Also I think that the bootloader screen on my cellphone is a bit different than it was previously (when my device was working fine) I think there was a faded rectangle behing the "Serial" and "1.02" text which is not there anymore.

sardanadixit
7th October 2008, 08:48 AM
Anyone, any suggestions?????

Nokia 3650
7th October 2008, 01:39 PM
We'll soon have to post some MTTY.exe commands, so that you can execute "task 28" (erase the disk-on-chip ROM). I'm tryi to unbrick my Charmer as well, so we are almost in the same boat.

The easiest soloution, woud be for me to 'make and give you' my SD ROM image. This means that we'd have to have SD cards of the same exact size. The only card I have, is 512MB in size (so you know I'd be sending you a 512MB attachment). You'd then use either NTRW.exe or PSDWRITE to write it back to your SD card (of exactly same size).



Finally you insert the card in your phone, go into bootloder mode.

Press the required key, and your phone is flashed with the ROM from my phone.


NB: Lets not go this far, just yet. The procedure has a ~99% success rate, but its not easy for me to send such a large attachment to you on my internet connection (except if we were on an instant messenger).

sardanadixit
9th October 2008, 12:49 PM
hmmmm, the SD card won't be a problem for me as I can easily get the SD card of any size, but the problem would be in uploading and downloading the image. Do we have any other alternate?

Nokia 3650
11th October 2008, 08:56 PM
I have a 512MB and 256MB card, so I'll have to send you the 256MB image that I'll create (via any standard instant message application).

sardanadixit
13th October 2008, 05:47 PM
I have a 512MB and 256MB card, so I'll have to send you the 256MB image that I'll create (via any standard instant message application).

Thanks, I appreciate that.
Could you please send me the file using the following service:
http://www.send-large-file.com/index_uk.php

If not, then let me know which messenger service would you prefer and what would be the preferred date and time for the same?

Nokia 3650
14th October 2008, 04:26 AM
I have no problem using that service. The problem is that the RAW ROM image, isn't being read by PSDREAD or NTRW.exe (so I can be able send it to you by any means).


Give me a few hours, and I'll get the extracted ROM for you.

sardanadixit
17th October 2008, 09:10 AM
Hi, did you get any software to read the RAW ROM image?

Nokia 3650
17th October 2008, 01:41 PM
I'm using PSDREAD and NTRW.exe , but it keeps giving me an error message about a checksum failure (then aborts the reading process).

sardanadixit
17th October 2008, 01:53 PM
ohh, so is there any alternate way to bring my magician back to life?

Nokia 3650
17th October 2008, 01:57 PM
If I got your SD card, I could 'backup' my ROM to it, and ship the card back to you.
This wouldn't be practical, since I'm in Jamaica.

We are still working on a soloution for you.

You should be able to get the image by the end of the day.

sardanadixit
17th October 2008, 02:04 PM
Thank you very much. I'm feeling so much relieved after reading this.

sardanadixit
20th October 2008, 12:53 PM
Any update on the above?

could you also let me know how to 'backup' the ROM onto SD card?

fredamexis
20th October 2008, 04:08 PM
I hope you get your magician working!!

Nokia 3650
20th October 2008, 05:43 PM
could you also let me know how to 'backup' the ROM onto SD card?

You need to first download mitty.exe
You need to place your Magician in bootloader mode.
With it connected to the PC, open MITTY.exe
SELECT USB (in the port drop-down menu).

At the terminal, type "r2sd all" (don't copy and past, you must type this manually).

It'll then overwrite the contents of you SD card with a RAW ROM image of your unit.




NB: In your case, it doesn't make sense to make a backup of a bricked ROM.
What you will be doing, is restoring my clean ROM instead.

sardanadixit
20th October 2008, 06:08 PM
I hope you get your magician working!!
Thanks mate, I hope the same.

You need to first download mitty.exe
You need to place your Magician in bootloader mode.
With it connected to the PC, open MITTY.exe
SELECT USB (in the port drop-down menu).

At the terminal, type "r2sd all" (don't copy and past, you must type this manually).

It'll then overwrite the contents of you SD card with a RAW ROM image of your unit.

NB: In your case, it doesn't make sense to make a backup of a bricked ROM.
What you will be doing, is restoring my clean ROM instead.
I was trying the same procedure some weeks ago on my bricked magician and it was not working, so I was just wondering weather I was doing it correctly or not?

any progress in reading the RAW IMAGE from your SD Card?

Nokia 3650
20th October 2008, 07:15 PM
Sorry, no success as yet.
It would be nice if other forum members could also upload thier RAW SD ROM images as well.

sardanadixit
21st October 2008, 12:33 PM
Can anyone uplocad the SD Card image of his Magician's ROM pleeeeeeaseeeee????????

Nokia 3650
21st October 2008, 12:36 PM
I'd suggest you try flashing with Taxist's 2.03 ROM as well (from bootloader).

sardanadixit
21st October 2008, 01:41 PM
I'd suggest you try flashing with Taxist's 2.03 ROM as well (from bootloader).

My bootloader is not allowing me to install any ROM. I have tried Taxist's ROM as well using the No_ID program.

Nokia 3650
21st October 2008, 01:52 PM
I'll be sending you the Emergency SD image shortly, using the web service that you posted here earlier on.

sardanadixit
21st October 2008, 05:43 PM
Thanks very much. Please do inform me when you have send the same in this thread.

Nokia 3650
22nd October 2008, 04:35 AM
The answer can be also found on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319354
Please follow the instructions on post #14, until I can upload my ROM.

This method actualy works.

sardanadixit
22nd October 2008, 09:48 AM
The answer can be also found on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319354
Please follow the instructions on post #14, until I can upload my ROM.

This method actualy works.

I already tried this method, but the ntrw.exe was not able to write the image file onto my SD card. However, I'll give it a try one more time and let you know the results.

btw can I use the 512 MB SD card for to write this image?

Nokia 3650
23rd October 2008, 03:01 AM
Yes, you can use any size SD card, although I believe you may definately want to try the 64MB card (instead of stuffing the remaining space with NULL characters).

swatichal
24th October 2008, 03:16 PM
i still having the problem i used the sdcard image which i download form rapidshare and then write it on sd card and try it on my imate jam and i didnt saw any press power to flash as they say on that post plz any one can help us
if some one know how to make a sdcard image from imate jam orignal rom plz tell us the procedure plz

sardanadixit
25th October 2008, 02:44 PM
Hi,

I backed up the ROM of my frnd's magician onto my SD card but when I put in the card into my magician, I do not see the option to flash no matter weather I plug it into power or usb. Plz suggest.

Nokia 3650
25th October 2008, 05:18 PM
This means that the ROM headers were copied as well.

This becomes tricky, since you'll no longer be using
r2sd all
in MTTY.exe again.

I don' know the terminal command for the process. You'll have to look in the service manual for it.
http://mikechannon.net/PDF%20Manuals/Megician-Service-Manual_A10.pdf
It is: USB>d2s 80000000 2400000
(Please notice the blank space between d2s and address, sd )

Nokia 3650
25th October 2008, 05:19 PM
Continue with GSM image upload..
USB>d2s 60000000 300000 sd a

swatichal
25th October 2008, 05:29 PM
hey nokia u still dunt get any solution for us

Nokia 3650
25th October 2008, 05:31 PM
The soloution, has been posted above (in several other threads as well).

swatichal
25th October 2008, 05:49 PM
but its dint solved our problem wat u sugest now

swatichal
29th October 2008, 12:12 PM
hollo any one tell me when i format my sd card by card reader which one format i need to do with (fat) or (fat32) plz tell me ...becoz i format my card with fat32 and write the downloaded sdcard.img on it and put in i mate but i didnt see any flash option plz pzl do some thing for us
and also all code with matty.exe and romupdate.exe and its all code but when i try r2sd all or simple r2sd it wont worked and i mate is dead at that time nothing is on screen........

Nokia 3650
30th October 2008, 06:11 AM
I'd suggest you use FAT instead of FAT32 (it doesn't matter since an new header will be written anyway).


I keep forgetting that your unit doesn't boot any at all. In that case, I don't have a solotion for you (besides using a JTAG). A more experiienced member, will provide an answer for you.

sardanadixit
31st October 2008, 08:28 AM
Hi Nokia I was away for some days. Will try the method mentioned in the service manual tommorow and let you know.

sardanadixit
14th November 2008, 04:25 PM
I am busy with my new job now a days and hardly have any time to try the solution, but will try to take out some time to try it. BTW I got a second hand HTC Wizard device which is working great, but still I miss my Magician and it's power!!!!!!!!!

tyzp
10th February 2009, 08:01 AM
I also bricked my magician and I try putting it into bootloader but after a few seconds it shuts down and the led turns red. what can i do?

Cotulla
12th February 2009, 11:16 PM
charge the battery at frist.

red lamp - battery is very low.