View Full Version : [New release 10/24/2008] XPeria like feeling! Visual Task Switcher 0.97 DD
Wolfman-XP
2nd October 2008, 12:01 PM
Hello to all,
i like to share my new app with you. Itīs a Visual Task switcher in the style of Dynamo3, but itīs written in native Win32 C++.
You should map the App to an Application button. Once started, the app scans all active windows and shows the windows on the screen. After this moment it monitors the running tasks and takes screenshots. Just tap on the screen to minimize, tap on a picture to activate the app or scroll up/down with moving on the screen (if there are more app than there is space on the screen).
You can configure many things in the config tool.
It should work with every resolution....
Have fun...
Greets,
Thomas
0.97
-technology switch to DirectDraw. Better performance in scrolling and zooming.
-tap and hold to close an application
-faster reaction time, but higher memory consumption when not active (the background-bitmap is not deleted)
-Version 0.961 still available for devices where the 0.97 version wonīt work.
-reduced filesize
0.961
-stability fixes
0.96
-you can select between left/right or up/down scrolling
-better initialisation of background pictures
-some improvements regarding not-existing windows
0.95
-bugfixs in VisualTaksConfig-Tool wich prevents app from starting
-fixes when switching portrait/lanscape mode (pictures will not be deleted)
-stability fixes
-you can prevent VT from scanning windows by setting ScanInterval to 0
0.945
-some stability fixes for the runtime-crashes
-graphical fixes when not using a background image
-bugfixes on deleting windows-snapshot that no longer exists
-usable in Landscape or Portrait mode
-tested on 240x320, 480x640 emulator images and on 480x800 device (G900)
0.94
-configurable space between the screenshots
-window text now at the bottom of the screenshot
-improved animations
-SIP input button is now hidden
-some bugfixes
0.93
-improved animations for activating the app and selecting the windows (try the "Intro Animation" in the config tool!)
-configurable ignore-list for windows (if you want to ignore the phone app, it could be that it has a blank behind itīs name!)
-configurable scan-time for the first app-scan
-improved stability
-bugfixes wich prevents the app from starting on some devices
0.92
-there is a scan for active windows at the first start of the app
-Gesture control. You can now scroll up/down by screen gesture if there are more windows than there is space on the screen
-names of the window are shown over the pictures
-improved stability
0.91
-New Configuration Tool with many options
-.exe file smaller
-made a .cab for installation
In the Config tool you can now configure the opacity for the background (if you use a background picture you can use 0 for opacity), the background picture, the capture intervall, the layout style, start animation or not and the animation smoothness.
Other Projects:
Customizable AVRCP agent: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331385
Wimdows Media Player ResumePlugin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412847
Dreamcatch
2nd October 2008, 12:09 PM
Thanks but where is the attachment?
solomhamada
2nd October 2008, 12:24 PM
yeah .. heheheh .. where is the attachements?
Wolfman-XP
2nd October 2008, 12:43 PM
Here it is..:-)
nuke1
2nd October 2008, 12:54 PM
how is it practically different to Dynamo 3 and any screens?
absorber786
2nd October 2008, 01:25 PM
how is it practically different to Dynamo 3 and any screens?
or mortbuttons task switcher...
also what the memory footprint like considering the screenshots and how often are these taken
Wolfman-XP
2nd October 2008, 01:33 PM
It takes about 1.5 Megs of Memory with 8 screen-shots of 240*320 quality (for the zoom-effect), itīs about 120-150Kb per process. At the moment a screenshot are taken after 2 sec a new process is started.
Just try it....if you like it use, if not donīt use it..:-)
galmok
2nd October 2008, 01:34 PM
Well, it is faster than Dynamo/TaskFacade.
It doesn't have auto-scaling icons (always 4x4 setup). That would be nice.
There are no animations.
The background seems to consist of 2-3 semitransparent programs all shown over each other. I find it confusing and would like to have a solid background or the background of just the application just before activating visualtasks.
The oldest application is shown in the upper left position. Newer windows fill the first line, then the next and so on. This means the newest applications position depends on the number of windows captured. This is not so great. Reverse sorting would be nice.
It captures windows and not applications.
Just like Dynamo, it can risk capturing the today screen twice. This means two icons both showing the today screen.
Wolfman-XP
2nd October 2008, 01:42 PM
Well, it is faster than Dynamo/TaskFacade.
It doesn't have auto-scaling icons (always 4x4 setup). That would be nice.
There are no animations.
The background seems to consist of 2-3 semitransparent programs all shown over each other. I find it confusing and would like to have a solid background or the background of just the application just before activating visualtasks.
The oldest application is shown in the upper left position. Newer windows fill the first line, then the next and so on. This means the newest applications position depends on the number of windows captured. This is not so great. Reverse sorting would be nice.
It captures windows and not applications.
Just like Dynamo, it can risk capturing the today screen twice. This means two icons both showing the today screen.
The background should consist of the last Application Window in a transparent form. On my devices it is so (Universal, G900 and the Emulator of VS2005).
Sure it captures Windows, if there is a background application it has nothing to cature..:-)
There should be a zoom animation when activating a window?! Wich device do you use..?
galmok
2nd October 2008, 02:47 PM
The background should consist of the last Application Window in a transparent form. On my devices it is so (Universal, G900 and the Emulator of VS2005).
But what is shown behind the transparent window? Right now, I don't see more than one application in full size, but I did see a mess of applications when I first started the application, including some corrupted image.
Sure it captures Windows, if there is a background application it has nothing to cature..:-)
I am not sure I understand. Which point of mine are you replying to?
There should be a zoom animation when activating a window?! Wich device do you use..?
I have to correct myself. I do see an animation when I select an application to switch to.
Could you maybe make the fullsize image of the application used as background be aligned with the bottom of the screen in stead of the top? This would keep the image from being misaligned. You don't capture the titlebar of the screen which means you images are not fullscreen sized.
It is very annoying to have 2 icons going to the today screen, especially because there is 1 difference. The task manager where the close button normally is, is missing on one of the today screens.
JukEboXAuDiO
2nd October 2008, 03:02 PM
This works great but disregards the phone and TOday screen.
galmok
2nd October 2008, 03:41 PM
First crash:
include/vector line 986 if I remember correctly.
Second crash:
Debug Assertion Failed!
Program: \Programmer\VisualTasks\VisualTasks.exe
File: C:\Programme\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\ce\include\vector Line: 986
Expression: vector erase iterator outside range
Also, the first time VT is started after this crash, all screenshots are shown fullsize, semitransparent and overlaying each other, showing 4+ images at the same time.
Device: HTC TYTN II
Blowfish64
2nd October 2008, 07:10 PM
Tried to use this, but the transparent backgrounds overlapping each other made it almost unviewable. I'd recommend a user-defined static background over which to put the thumbnails.
And I for one like that it is window-based rather than program-based. The latter approach makes some applications unviewable.
Oh, and I'd like it not to exclude any programs by default (e.g. phone and today screens). Leave that up to us.
nir36
2nd October 2008, 08:35 PM
this is perfect man! THANKS! :)
famewolf
2nd October 2008, 08:56 PM
have you tried using this outside or in a high glare situation? that transparent background is a nightmare....I can't even see the icons....please give us a plain background option.
bigray327
2nd October 2008, 09:49 PM
Love the speed! That's what all of the others are lacking.
On my Titan, however, it's showing screenshots of all kinds of wacky stuff, like screens during transitions, etc.
I'd also like to see the button (whatever button you've mapped to activate it) also minimize it.
lastnikita
3rd October 2008, 02:11 PM
Hi, looks like a great app !
unfortunately it doesn't look so great on my 240x400 omnia :D
bassjam
3rd October 2008, 04:19 PM
very fast, no crash, i like de transparancy for the background
it's a very good work
for me,better than dynamo:)
thx
galmok
3rd October 2008, 05:44 PM
Hi, looks like a great app !
unfortunately it doesn't look so great on my 240x400 omnia :D
Looks like that on the TYTN II as well.
mike21pr
3rd October 2008, 06:09 PM
can i get some screenshots on the app please???
Wolfman-XP
4th October 2008, 12:09 PM
Ok, i will make it more customizable next week!
On my devices the transparent Background works well....
Wolfman-XP
6th October 2008, 01:07 PM
New release online...
wmvfan
6th October 2008, 01:40 PM
pictures ?
Wolfman-XP
7th October 2008, 02:32 PM
New release out....
galmok
7th October 2008, 04:07 PM
I tried the latest release. Before activating VT, I started its config program and just clicked save end exited. Then I started VT and it crashed right away. But it crashed filesys.exe and not itself. It almost seems as if VT triggerede the crash in filesys.exe. :-/
Activating VT again just made it change the title bar and nothing more. The original background was still showing. Clicking returned to normal again. As if VT used a 1x1 tile setup.
Then I tried entering the config program again and it crashed upon startup:
VisualTaskConfig.exe NullReferenceException
at VisualTaskConfig.Config.Config_Load()
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad()
at System.Windows.Forms.Form._SetVisibleNotify()
at System.Windows.Forms.Constol.set_Visible()
at System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run()
at VisualTaskConfig.Config.Main()
VTConfig crashes on each subsequent activation.
Starting Task Manager, it hangs when enumerating the running applications. Clicking cancel showed 4 VTs running. They apparently don't know about each others existance. Trying to kill one of them causes the Task Manager to hang.
I had to reboot the phone... not good. :-/
I uninstalled VT and reinstalled it, but with the same result. I had to reboot the phone again. This (0.92) was a complete no-go for me. :-/
galmok
7th October 2008, 04:31 PM
I rebooted, deleted the wolf registry key and startet VisualTasks.exe and it crashed (seems to happen regardless of what I do):
Windows crash report contains this:
EvntType: WinCE501bExceptio
AppName: VisualTasks.exe
AppVer: 5.2.0.0
AppStamp: 48eb5583
ModName: coredll.dll
ModVer: 5.2.0.0
ModStamp: 6c23165e
Offset: 000631f0
OwnName: VisualTasks.exe
OwnVer: 5.2.0.0
OwnStamp: 48eb5583
Exception Information
API Cur Process: 0x00000000
API Cur Thread: 0x00000000
API OWn Process: 0x00000000
Info Flags: 0x0000000C
Current Process: 0x65CC9B12
Faulting Thread: 0x655C639E
Owner Process: 0x65CC9B12
Code: 0xC0000094
Flags: 0x00000000
Record: 0x00000000
Address: 0x03FAF1F0
Parameters: 0
nir36
7th October 2008, 04:45 PM
well, first the config app crashes, and then if you try to run VisualTasks.exe it makes the device run very very slowly and doesn't do anything.
Grondinm
7th October 2008, 06:09 PM
just tried this out on my vogue and i must say it looks really good...a few thing i noticed...the phone dialer is always listed as an app...should be ignored...and sometimes i see double apps or the wrong name. kije i saw the desktop 3 times one with the start menu open one without and one with the task manager open. also one was called total commander and i also saw the total commander window...but it's really smooth and has not crashed on me yet.
Wolfman-XP
8th October 2008, 07:14 AM
I rebooted, deleted the wolf registry key and startet VisualTasks.exe and it crashed (seems to happen regardless of what I do):
Windows crash report contains this:
EvntType: WinCE501bExceptio
AppName: VisualTasks.exe
AppVer: 5.2.0.0
AppStamp: 48eb5583
ModName: coredll.dll
ModVer: 5.2.0.0
ModStamp: 6c23165e
Offset: 000631f0
OwnName: VisualTasks.exe
OwnVer: 5.2.0.0
OwnStamp: 48eb5583
Exception Information
API Cur Process: 0x00000000
API Cur Thread: 0x00000000
API OWn Process: 0x00000000
Info Flags: 0x0000000C
Current Process: 0x65CC9B12
Faulting Thread: 0x655C639E
Owner Process: 0x65CC9B12
Code: 0xC0000094
Flags: 0x00000000
Record: 0x00000000
Address: 0x03FAF1F0
Parameters: 0
On wich device did you try it..?
Wolfman-XP
8th October 2008, 07:31 AM
just tried this out on my vogue and i must say it looks really good...a few thing i noticed...the phone dialer is always listed as an app...should be ignored...and sometimes i see double apps or the wrong name. kije i saw the desktop 3 times one with the start menu open one without and one with the task manager open. also one was called total commander and i also saw the total commander window...but it's really smooth and has not crashed on me yet.
OK, i will include a list of window names to ignore in one of the next releases.
The windows with same pictures could be caused by the first time scan-process. During this process, every 500 ms the window changes and a screenshot is taken. Perhaps the time is not enough for the window to be painted. I will make this time configurable by the next release.
galmok
8th October 2008, 09:23 AM
On wich device did you try it..?
HTC TYTN II with wm6.1.
mst46
8th October 2008, 10:23 AM
Tried 0.92 on my Diamond. Works really well and fast - good work :-).
I also realized too many confusing pictures (processes) as was already mentioned.
Ignoring some of them will surely improve the app further.
Keep it up,
mst
hanackin
8th October 2008, 10:36 AM
hi!
Thanks for this great app :D
Could it be possible to have some screen shots ?
hklcf
8th October 2008, 11:31 AM
thanks you very much :P
Wolfman-XP
8th October 2008, 11:32 AM
hi!
Thanks for this great app :D
Could it be possible to have some screen shots ?
I donīt have a prog to make screenshots...:-)
Just try it......i will release the next Version today....
Wolfman-XP
8th October 2008, 03:58 PM
New release out...
nuke1
8th October 2008, 04:26 PM
Thanks, very nice. Some suggestions for the Xperia feel:
-There should be an option to remove text, and text should be always at the bottom of each panel if enabled.
-There should be a small gap between each panel.
-Maybe that bounce effect that Xperia has :D
ytsejam_
8th October 2008, 05:04 PM
does not work on my Wizard Qtek 9100..
it loads up (the taskbar shows Visual Task).. shows a blank (transparent) screen. tap on screen, it minimizes.. opened VTS again, and the same thing happen..
-Arturo-
8th October 2008, 05:17 PM
New release out...
Hi Wolfman.
This version finally works for me but now Visualtask config crashes at startup:)
I've got Kaiser with WM 6.1.
Wolfman-XP
8th October 2008, 05:21 PM
Hi Wolfman.
This version finally works for me but now Visualtask config crashes at startup:)
I've got Kaiser with WM 6.1.
You have installed the .net framework? For the config tool, .net is essential.
cruzzmz
8th October 2008, 05:28 PM
I donīt have a prog to make screenshots...:-)
Just try it......i will release the next Version today....
use pocket controller to rec the animation ... for the screen shot
-Arturo-
8th October 2008, 05:38 PM
You have installed the .net framework? For the config tool, .net is essential.
Yes version 3.5 has been cooked in my rom.
This is the error i get when I try to open config file:
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Wolfman-XP
9th October 2008, 09:47 AM
New version and screenshots online...
galmok
9th October 2008, 12:46 PM
Tried 0.94. I started it. It flipped through all open windows and then showed them as tiles with some space between. The bottom of the screen had some leftover, translated up a bit. It looked a bit strange. I selected the today screen using VT and that worked. Then I activated the hardware button to start VT again and it did show up again, but when I selected an ikon now, VT showed some distorted graphics at the bottum and locked up.
After that I as trying to save my phone from having to reboot, but failed. I rebooted and uninstalled VT again. I'll try the next version... ;-)
Wolfman-XP
10th October 2008, 09:42 AM
New version out....
galmok
10th October 2008, 01:25 PM
I tried 0.945 and it seemed to work just fine UNTIL I used the config tool. After that, I had to reboot to get rid of a hanging VisualTasks that slowed down the phone. The only thing I changed with the config tool was setting the transparency to 255 (solid black) and change the layout from empty to 3 (even though default was equal to 3). After saving and quitting the config tool, I activated VT but now it only showed VisualTasks in the titlebar. Rest of the screen was unchanged. Seems some of the config options still can cause VT to hang.
It is clearly getting better. :-)
Wolfman-XP
11th October 2008, 12:20 PM
I tried 0.945 and it seemed to work just fine UNTIL I used the config tool. After that, I had to reboot to get rid of a hanging VisualTasks that slowed down the phone. The only thing I changed with the config tool was setting the transparency to 255 (solid black) and change the layout from empty to 3 (even though default was equal to 3). After saving and quitting the config tool, I activated VT but now it only showed VisualTasks in the titlebar. Rest of the screen was unchanged. Seems some of the config options still can cause VT to hang.
It is clearly getting better. :-)
Hm, very strange...did you have all reg-keys under HKLM\Software\wolf\tools\VisualTasks? Is there a file called apps.conf in the VisualTasks directory? If it still hangs, try to delete this file....
Wolfman-XP
11th October 2008, 12:25 PM
By the way:108 downloads. It would be nice to hear if the app works or not....! :-)
iago_00
11th October 2008, 04:28 PM
By the way:108 downloads. It would be nice to hear if the app works or not....! :-)
in my emulator it runs a bit slugish. when i choose a window the animation is slow.
Christian72D
11th October 2008, 08:01 PM
I tested it both on my Prophet and my Touch Cruise, on both it works great.
Only two things to mention: would it be possible to disable the name of the program under the tiles?
In the exclusion list it would be great if one had all windows that are running and could click the to add them to the list.
But i donīt know if i will use this program because most times i have not more than 2-3 programs running and these i can switch with the taskmanager from HS++, but itīs a very nice and interesting program!
Wolfman-XP
13th October 2008, 07:23 AM
in my emulator it runs a bit slugish. when i choose a window the animation is slow.
That is normal for the emulator. On a device it should run smooth, depending on the kind of device....
galmok
13th October 2008, 10:39 AM
Hm, very strange...did you have all reg-keys under HKLM\Software\wolf\tools\VisualTasks? Is there a file called apps.conf in the VisualTasks directory? If it still hangs, try to delete this file....
I have now installed VT again and started it. Before installation I cleaned the registry (\Software\wolf entry) and deleted the VisualTasks in PRogram Files (called Programmer, Danish wm).
I can activate it without problems and select the windows I want. Then I started VTC (config) and clicked exit right away. No problem. VT still works fine. Then I start VTC again and click Save and get an error right away that says "ArgumentNullException" and I can just click Ok. VTC doesn't exit. I click exit and VT still works.
VTC obviously has a bug somewhere.
Starting VTC again after the mentioned bug makes VTC give the same error even before it has shown the current options. Clicking ok makes the options show and I can modify them. There is no "apps.conf" in the VT directory.
Starting VTC again (clicking Ok to the error box) and changing the layout to 3 makes it possible to Save without error. Exiting VTC and starting VT makes it enumerate the windows again and I can continue to have VT working as expected (i.e. its working ;-) ).
I can now start VTC without getting an error. I change the background opacity to 255 (solid black, I could do with another colour perhaps) and Save. Starting VT makes it enumerate the windows again and it continues to work normally. However, slight problem: The black background in VT is misplaced, not covering the left-hand side of the screen. Approx. 1/6 of the screen in the left side is not covered by the black background. It still shows part of the program that was active when VT was activated. VT hasn't crashed yet :-).
Changing the border from 0 to 5 (was set to zero because of the above mentioned error) reveals more problems. While VT works and the left hand side remains uncovered by the black background, approx 1/6 of the top of the screen contains corrupted data. It looks like image data being displayed with wrong width (making vertical lines become very skewed). It still hasn't stopped working.
I presume that my previous attempt must have been based on earlier data in the registry/application folder which VT didn't guard itself against. Still, a few graphic anomalies are showing and VTC has a bug.
I just remembered that I have the graphics driver from htcclassaction.org installed. Could this be the reason for the graphic anomaly? (Not sure if that driver is opengl or directx or both...)
galmok
13th October 2008, 10:40 AM
How do I quit VT?
Also, if VT uses polling to capture images, how do I make it stop polling? (I assume by setting poll interval to 0?)
galmok
13th October 2008, 11:19 AM
There is also an issue when flipping between landscape and portrait mode: VT clears the list of known windows and starts from scratch with just 1 window. Couldn't you make it remember the list and just show the icons with the wrong width/height (i.e. swapped)?
Wolfman-XP
13th October 2008, 11:38 AM
How do I quit VT?
Also, if VT uses polling to capture images, how do I make it stop polling? (I assume by setting poll interval to 0?)
Normally VT is quit by successfully saving options with VTC.
The interval is the time to switch from one app to the other. An apps normaly needs some time to completly draw itīs window. So by setting it to a higher value you can be mor sure to get the "real" screenshot! Setting it to 0 would make the switch to fast. I will change it in the next release, that if you set it to 0 there will be no scan at start
Wolfman-XP
13th October 2008, 11:41 AM
I have now installed VT again and started it. Before installation I cleaned the registry (\Software\wolf entry) and deleted the VisualTasks in PRogram Files (called Programmer, Danish wm).
I can activate it without problems and select the windows I want. Then I started VTC (config) and clicked exit right away. No problem. VT still works fine. Then I start VTC again and click Save and get an error right away that says "ArgumentNullException" and I can just click Ok. VTC doesn't exit. I click exit and VT still works.
VTC obviously has a bug somewhere.
Starting VTC again after the mentioned bug makes VTC give the same error even before it has shown the current options. Clicking ok makes the options show and I can modify them. There is no "apps.conf" in the VT directory.
Starting VTC again (clicking Ok to the error box) and changing the layout to 3 makes it possible to Save without error. Exiting VTC and starting VT makes it enumerate the windows again and I can continue to have VT working as expected (i.e. its working ;-) ).
I can now start VTC without getting an error. I change the background opacity to 255 (solid black, I could do with another colour perhaps) and Save. Starting VT makes it enumerate the windows again and it continues to work normally. However, slight problem: The black background in VT is misplaced, not covering the left-hand side of the screen. Approx. 1/6 of the screen in the left side is not covered by the black background. It still shows part of the program that was active when VT was activated. VT hasn't crashed yet :-).
Changing the border from 0 to 5 (was set to zero because of the above mentioned error) reveals more problems. While VT works and the left hand side remains uncovered by the black background, approx 1/6 of the top of the screen contains corrupted data. It looks like image data being displayed with wrong width (making vertical lines become very skewed). It still hasn't stopped working.
I presume that my previous attempt must have been based on earlier data in the registry/application folder which VT didn't guard itself against. Still, a few graphic anomalies are showing and VTC has a bug.
I just remembered that I have the graphics driver from htcclassaction.org installed. Could this be the reason for the graphic anomaly? (Not sure if that driver is opengl or directx or both...)
Hm, the driver could be a problem, but iīm using standard GDI functions for drawing and for getting the resolution. If these functions deliver wrong resolution settings, it would make problems. Wich resolution runs your device?
Iīm still wondering about the null pointer exception in VTC. Normaly there CANīT be a null pointer....
Wolfman-XP
13th October 2008, 11:53 AM
I have now installed VT again and started it. Before installation I cleaned the registry (\Software\wolf entry) and deleted the VisualTasks in PRogram Files (called Programmer, Danish wm).
I can activate it without problems and select the windows I want. Then I started VTC (config) and clicked exit right away. No problem. VT still works fine. Then I start VTC again and click Save and get an error right away that says "ArgumentNullException" and I can just click Ok. VTC doesn't exit. I click exit and VT still works.
VTC obviously has a bug somewhere.
Starting VTC again after the mentioned bug makes VTC give the same error even before it has shown the current options. Clicking ok makes the options show and I can modify them. There is no "apps.conf" in the VT directory.
Starting VTC again (clicking Ok to the error box) and changing the layout to 3 makes it possible to Save without error. Exiting VTC and starting VT makes it enumerate the windows again and I can continue to have VT working as expected (i.e. its working ;-) ).
I can now start VTC without getting an error. I change the background opacity to 255 (solid black, I could do with another colour perhaps) and Save. Starting VT makes it enumerate the windows again and it continues to work normally. However, slight problem: The black background in VT is misplaced, not covering the left-hand side of the screen. Approx. 1/6 of the screen in the left side is not covered by the black background. It still shows part of the program that was active when VT was activated. VT hasn't crashed yet :-).
Changing the border from 0 to 5 (was set to zero because of the above mentioned error) reveals more problems. While VT works and the left hand side remains uncovered by the black background, approx 1/6 of the top of the screen contains corrupted data. It looks like image data being displayed with wrong width (making vertical lines become very skewed). It still hasn't stopped working.
I presume that my previous attempt must have been based on earlier data in the registry/application folder which VT didn't guard itself against. Still, a few graphic anomalies are showing and VTC has a bug.
I just remembered that I have the graphics driver from htcclassaction.org installed. Could this be the reason for the graphic anomaly? (Not sure if that driver is opengl or directx or both...)
OK, i know whatīs the problem with VTC. As a first help: clear the registry wolf entries, after the first start of VTC SELECT A LAYOUT, then save! After that, you can start VTC without problems. Bugfix in the next version...
Wolfman-XP
13th October 2008, 01:32 PM
New release online..
galmok
13th October 2008, 11:21 PM
Hm, the driver could be a problem, but iīm using standard GDI functions for drawing and for getting the resolution. If these functions deliver wrong resolution settings, it would make problems. Wich resolution runs your device?
Iīm still wondering about the null pointer exception in VTC. Normaly there CANīT be a null pointer....
240x320 or 320x240. The part of the screen that VT doesn't draw contains corrupted pixels, either from previous windows or something almost completely garbage. The HTC driver from htcclassaction.org is an opengl es driver. I take it VT is D3D...
When I scroll VT, it reveals even more of the uninitialized data. And VT scrolls the uninitialized data just fine, indicating that VT is actively drawing it that way. Scrolling the corrupted data out of the screen and the scrolling it back shows the exact same corrupted/uninitialized data. Not knowing how you perform the scrolling, I would guess that you have the whole image stored as a texture which you draw onto the screen. In that case, the texture contains the corrupted data...
I haven't experimented with 0.95 yet. Tomorrow.
ljinsane
13th October 2008, 11:46 PM
just downloaded and installed and so far I like it over dynamo3 as it is way faster and that is a must for this type of applications (especially when showing off :) ). Great work and I will be donating
Wolfman-XP
14th October 2008, 07:25 AM
just downloaded and installed and so far I like it over dynamo3 as it is way faster and that is a must for this type of applications (especially when showing off :) ). Great work and I will be donating
Thank you very much...:-)
If anybody has some inspirations for future releases, let them hear....!
Blowfish64
14th October 2008, 09:00 AM
Thank you very much...:-)
If anybody has some inspirations for future releases, let them hear....!
Being able to run the setup part without getting an "argument null exception" error while trying to save would be a good start for me ;).
castrogne
14th October 2008, 09:53 AM
Well great program!!
Here are my problems using it, if it can help to make it greater:
- I had one "out of memory" error when trying to launch configuration tool many times
- The "Phone" windows is still there even if I put it in ignore windows...
- Problems with Manila2D : some windows appears twice... And when I clic on it it crashes
- Some windows without name appear... and then crash when click : wtill manila problem?
thanks :p
EDIT :
screen1 : show a window without name
When clic on "desktop" : goes on last open app, even if it's not the picture (exemple : activesync)
screen2 : 3 windows without name, the first one is outlook, second one make crash, last one is manila2D.
thanks :)
galmok
14th October 2008, 10:08 AM
0.95: The graphics problem remains, although less. The left hand side is black as it should be, but the 1/6 of the top still contains non-black pixels. Scrolling up does not initialize the background to zero, but contains non-black apparently random data.
Swapping between horisontal and vertical works ok (although corrupted background is present in both orientations). Swapping works with VT active (showing on screen) and passive (being in the background). Nice. :-)
Scrolling in landscape mode (320x240) doesn't work right. The icons are not scrolled correctly. First of all, the icons are broken up, scrolled to different positions, i.e. an icon is broken in two (or more) and are not aligned after the move. It looks very bad. :-/
Also, in the last couple of releases, VT has shown 1 additional icon that was previously never shown. It has a somewhat corrupted icon (looks like garbage). When clicking it, VT always returns to the previous application (the one active before VT was activated). The name is "MS_SIPBUTTON". I don't know what application this belongs to.
A last issue is with the installer or rather the uninstaller. It does not remove the VisualTasks folder in the Start Menu. This makes new copies of VisualTasks folder on every install: "VisualTasks", "VisualTasks (1)", "VisualTasks (2)", and so on.
Wolfman-XP
14th October 2008, 12:58 PM
0.95: The graphics problem remains, although less. The left hand side is black as it should be, but the 1/6 of the top still contains non-black pixels. Scrolling up does not initialize the background to zero, but contains non-black apparently random data.
Swapping between horisontal and vertical works ok (although corrupted background is present in both orientations). Swapping works with VT active (showing on screen) and passive (being in the background). Nice. :-)
Scrolling in landscape mode (320x240) doesn't work right. The icons are not scrolled correctly. First of all, the icons are broken up, scrolled to different positions, i.e. an icon is broken in two (or more) and are not aligned after the move. It looks very bad. :-/
Also, in the last couple of releases, VT has shown 1 additional icon that was previously never shown. It has a somewhat corrupted icon (looks like garbage). When clicking it, VT always returns to the previous application (the one active before VT was activated). The name is "MS_SIPBUTTON". I don't know what application this belongs to.
A last issue is with the installer or rather the uninstaller. It does not remove the VisualTasks folder in the Start Menu. This makes new copies of VisualTasks folder on every install: "VisualTasks", "VisualTasks (1)", "VisualTasks (2)", and so on.
The MS_SIPBUTTON is an application window. You should put this into the ignore Apps-List!
Did you try using a Background picture?
Wolfman-XP
14th October 2008, 01:03 PM
Well great program!!
Here are my problems using it, if it can help to make it greater:
- I had one "out of memory" error when trying to launch configuration tool many times
- The "Phone" windows is still there even if I put it in ignore windows...
- Problems with Manila2D : some windows appears twice... And when I clic on it it crashes
- Some windows without name appear... and then crash when click : wtill manila problem?
thanks :p
EDIT :
screen1 : show a window without name
When clic on "desktop" : goes on last open app, even if it's not the picture (exemple : activesync)
screen2 : 3 windows without name, the first one is outlook, second one make crash, last one is manila2D.
thanks :)
The first window at the upper left always has no name. It is the last active window.
For the Phone window: on my german Window Mobile the Phone window has a blank (space) after the word. So you can try "Phone ". And watch out for upper/lower case!
Wolfman-XP
14th October 2008, 01:05 PM
Being able to run the setup part without getting an "argument null exception" error while trying to save would be a good start for me ;).
Did you try the latest version? If so, try to delete the HKLM\software\wolf\tools\VisualTasks reg key before running the app!
castrogne
14th October 2008, 02:09 PM
Here an exemple of what appear after some time using the phone...
We can see:
- 3 "phone" windows : I haven't tried to add a blank space, i will...
- in the middle : The windows that made the phone crashe if i clic on it
- _SPITBUTTON : ??
Thanks
EDIT :
Ok so
- No more "Phone" when add to ignore "Phone " (with blank space)
- No more "_SPITBUTTON" when add "MS_SIPBUTTON" to ignore
- still one window that make the phone crash...
galmok
14th October 2008, 03:39 PM
The MS_SIPBUTTON is an application window. You should put this into the ignore Apps-List!
Did you try using a Background picture?
I have now tried with a background picture (240x293... it is what I had) and this helps. The image is placed to fit the lower edge and the top of the background remains corrupted (320-293=27 pixels). Transparency to 255 makes the background solid black (except the 27 pixels that are random) and lowering the value to e.g. 100 makes the image show more clearly. Using an image obviously initialises the background properly. I just have to find an image of the right size.
But when scrolling, the image is scrolled as well. The new area at the bottom of the screen again contains uninitialized image data (uninitialized texture data).
Scrolling in landscape mode is still corrupting everything on screen, icons, background, to a point that even scrolling back is corrupted. In portrait mode, scrolling back always works (i.e. the icons are drawn correctly, the background isn't).
kwoodall
14th October 2008, 03:58 PM
Thank you very much...:-)
If anybody has some inspirations for future releases, let them hear....!
Any chance you could make this Smartphone compatible and work with dpad input in place of touchscreen?
Kermit Woodall
Managing Editor
GadgetNutz.com
galmok
14th October 2008, 04:01 PM
The corruption is actually leftover pixels from the last application to use the render enginge (D3D or OpenGL, not sure what VT uses). If 3D hasn't been used prior to VT using it, the content of the 3D buffer is garbage.
In any case, you need to initialize the 3D background regardless of what you want to do.
If the transparency has to work properly, you have to make a snapshot of the screen and use it as a texture you draw on the background with. You can fade it as you please by adjusting the alpha transparency or draw another surface on top that is semitransparent (depending on setting).
Assuming the 2D framebuffer to be the same as the 3D framebuffer doesn't always work, certainly not with the TYTN II.
Wolfman-XP
14th October 2008, 04:14 PM
The corruption is actually leftover pixels from the last application to use the render enginge (D3D or OpenGL, not sure what VT uses). If 3D hasn't been used prior to VT using it, the content of the 3D buffer is garbage.
In any case, you need to initialize the 3D background regardless of what you want to do.
If the transparency has to work properly, you have to make a snapshot of the screen and use it as a texture you draw on the background with. You can fade it as you please by adjusting the alpha transparency or draw another surface on top that is semitransparent (depending on setting).
Assuming the 2D framebuffer to be the same as the 3D framebuffer doesn't always work, certainly not with the TYTN II.
VT doesnīt use any kind of 3D rendering, just standard-GDI.
For the transparency i do exactly what you are writing. Iīve got an idea, i will try it tomorrow!
Wolfman-XP
15th October 2008, 09:39 AM
The corruption is actually leftover pixels from the last application to use the render enginge (D3D or OpenGL, not sure what VT uses). If 3D hasn't been used prior to VT using it, the content of the 3D buffer is garbage.
In any case, you need to initialize the 3D background regardless of what you want to do.
If the transparency has to work properly, you have to make a snapshot of the screen and use it as a texture you draw on the background with. You can fade it as you please by adjusting the alpha transparency or draw another surface on top that is semitransparent (depending on setting).
Assuming the 2D framebuffer to be the same as the 3D framebuffer doesn't always work, certainly not with the TYTN II.
Has anybody else this kind of problems...?
nickdollahz
15th October 2008, 10:02 AM
Being able to run the setup part without getting an "argument null exception" error while trying to save would be a good start for me ;).
Yeah it seems like the Layout drop down menu default set to blank makes this happen. Once you set the Layout drop down menu to 2-4. It works.
Wolfman-XP
15th October 2008, 10:15 AM
I have now tried with a background picture (240x293... it is what I had) and this helps. The image is placed to fit the lower edge and the top of the background remains corrupted (320-293=27 pixels). Transparency to 255 makes the background solid black (except the 27 pixels that are random) and lowering the value to e.g. 100 makes the image show more clearly. Using an image obviously initialises the background properly. I just have to find an image of the right size.
But when scrolling, the image is scrolled as well. The new area at the bottom of the screen again contains uninitialized image data (uninitialized texture data).
Scrolling in landscape mode is still corrupting everything on screen, icons, background, to a point that even scrolling back is corrupted. In portrait mode, scrolling back always works (i.e. the icons are drawn correctly, the background isn't).
Even if the picture is not the right size, it should be stretched to the complete screen-size, from 0,0 to deviceResolution-X,deviceResolution-Y!
Setting the transparency to 0 would display the Background image as it-is!
Wolfman-XP
15th October 2008, 10:26 AM
Next Version out....
galmok
15th October 2008, 02:12 PM
0.96 is MUCH better. :-)
The background is fully initialized and the image is scaled to fit the screen, in both horisontal and vertical mode. Also, scrolling shows no more uninitialized pixels anywhere. VT looks so much better now. :-)
That is not to say I didn't find anything that could be fix/improved upon... ;-)
First the up/down scrolling: When scrolling the image up, I have to make 4 upward motions to scroll fully to the next 3 rows, yet I only have to scroll 3 times to get back. Scrolling 3 times up reveals most of the 3 new rows, but there are about 3-4 pixel lines of the old screen left. Minor detail and is probably easy to fix. Then I wonder why the scroll speed in portrait mode is so fast that the next row appears to be without animation, yet in landscape mode, the next row is shown with a sliding motion.
The left/right scrolling: I understand the reason why you decided to slide the whole screen instead of just 1 column. I was just a bit surprised. Makes good sense. Maybe you should offer a fullscreen slide in the up/down scrolling as well. I think that would be welcomed. And the a similar slide speed problem is seen here: Portrait mode sliding appears to be much faster than in landscape mode.
Maybe the sliding in portrait mode simply is much more efficient than in landscape mode. Maybe different speed settings could be offered depending on the orientation of the screen?
Did you fix the uninstall problem? The one with Visual Tasks folder remaining in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs ?
galmok
15th October 2008, 02:17 PM
One more suggestion. Have you considered the option to use a smoothing scaling instead of the nearest neighbor scaling? It would provide much nicer icons. Sure, it could slow down the start of VT, but I don't think it would be noticably much.
Wolfman-XP
15th October 2008, 02:34 PM
0.96 is MUCH better. :-)
The background is fully initialized and the image is scaled to fit the screen, in both horisontal and vertical mode. Also, scrolling shows no more uninitialized pixels anywhere. VT looks so much better now. :-)
That is not to say I didn't find anything that could be fix/improved upon... ;-)
First the up/down scrolling: When scrolling the image up, I have to make 4 upward motions to scroll fully to the next 3 rows, yet I only have to scroll 3 times to get back. Scrolling 3 times up reveals most of the 3 new rows, but there are about 3-4 pixel lines of the old screen left. Minor detail and is probably easy to fix. Then I wonder why the scroll speed in portrait mode is so fast that the next row appears to be without animation, yet in landscape mode, the next row is shown with a sliding motion.
The left/right scrolling: I understand the reason why you decided to slide the whole screen instead of just 1 column. I was just a bit surprised. Makes good sense. Maybe you should offer a fullscreen slide in the up/down scrolling as well. I think that would be welcomed. And the a similar slide speed problem is seen here: Portrait mode sliding appears to be much faster than in landscape mode.
Maybe the sliding in portrait mode simply is much more efficient than in landscape mode. Maybe different speed settings could be offered depending on the orientation of the screen?
Did you fix the uninstall problem? The one with Visual Tasks folder remaining in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs ?
The speed-differences between portrait/landscape is a general windows mobile problem. In landscape mode the device is normaly much slower than in portrait. Iīm using a G900 with 480x800 Resolution, and i can tell you: in landscape nearly every application has a worse graphic performance..:-(
The uninstall problem is unfixed..:-)
Wolfman-XP
15th October 2008, 02:34 PM
One more suggestion. Have you considered the option to use a smoothing scaling instead of the nearest neighbor scaling? It would provide much nicer icons. Sure, it could slow down the start of VT, but I don't think it would be noticably much.
i not really know what you mean....
galmok
15th October 2008, 04:23 PM
i not really know what you mean....
Well, the icons don't look as pretty as they could. :-P
Try taking an image and scale it down to 1/3 of the original. (use GIMP or Photoshop or similar). Notice that the resulting image is much nicer than the scaling VT achieves.
The difference is that GIMP/Photoshop uses all image data to make the icon whereas VT only uses 1/9 of the image data (1/3 (width) * 1/3 (height) = 1/9 (area)).
VT could use a smoothing downsampling to make the icons look better.
Wolfman-XP
16th October 2008, 07:58 AM
Well, the icons don't look as pretty as they could. :-P
Try taking an image and scale it down to 1/3 of the original. (use GIMP or Photoshop or similar). Notice that the resulting image is much nicer than the scaling VT achieves.
The difference is that GIMP/Photoshop uses all image data to make the icon whereas VT only uses 1/9 of the image data (1/3 (width) * 1/3 (height) = 1/9 (area)).
VT could use a smoothing downsampling to make the icons look better.
Ok, actually iīm using half of the hight/width of the device for the snapshots. That means, using a 240*320 device the snapshots have a resolution of 120*160. Using a 3x3 layout without spaces the pictures are scaled down (by StretchBlt) to 80*106. The only thing i could do is making the snapshot quality configurable, so that you could use the whole 240*320 resolution for the pictures. Iīve tested it, but the only effect i can see is that the quality gets better by using the zoom-effect when switching a task. And you will have a higher memory usage.
I think Photoshop will use a much better alghorythm for downscaling than the standard GDI-function StretchBlt.
But i will make it configurable in the next release...:-)
galmok
16th October 2008, 10:13 AM
Ok, actually iīm using half of the hight/width of the device for the snapshots. That means, using a 240*320 device the snapshots have a resolution of 120*160. Using a 3x3 layout without spaces the pictures are scaled down (by StretchBlt) to 80*106. The only thing i could do is making the snapshot quality configurable, so that you could use the whole 240*320 resolution for the pictures. Iīve tested it, but the only effect i can see is that the quality gets better by using the zoom-effect when switching a task. And you will have a higher memory usage.
I think Photoshop will use a much better alghorythm for downscaling than the standard GDI-function StretchBlt.
But i will make it configurable in the next release...:-)
Well, whether you use the 120x160 or the 240x320 image for the icons wont matter much if you use StretchBlt to make the 120x160 images. It will of course matter for the zoom effect when you select an application to switch to. For that purpose, the fullsize image option would be welcomed (despite the increased memory usage).
You need a better downsampling algorithm to use for the icons instead of StretchBlt. I have been searching around and found these hints:
Call SetStretchBltMode(HALFTONE) before calling StretchBlt().
Or this (has code available in source, but uses floating point and is maybe too slow. Can't tell until it as been testet):
http://www.codeguru.com/Cpp/G-M/bitmap/specialeffects/article.php/c1779
There is also GDI+ but I am not sure it exists for windows mobile.
I may be able to find something better or make it myself..
galmok
16th October 2008, 10:39 AM
OR maybe:
Call SetStretchBltMode(COLORONCOLOR) before calling StretchBlt().
Wolfman-XP
16th October 2008, 11:02 AM
OR maybe:
Call SetStretchBltMode(COLORONCOLOR) before calling StretchBlt().
Iīve tested all available StrechBlt modes for windows mobile, and there are no real differences....
galmok
16th October 2008, 07:49 PM
Iīve tested all available StrechBlt modes for windows mobile, and there are no real differences....
Ok. Then a custom image shrinking algorithm would be useful. The icons would be so much nicer to look at.
Wolfman-XP
17th October 2008, 07:14 AM
Ok. Then a custom image shrinking algorithm would be useful. The icons would be so much nicer to look at.
That could be. But i don´t think that i can do this..:-)
galmok
17th October 2008, 10:02 AM
I just activated VT and it showed 9 (nine) icons. The desktop was shown 3 times, with these names "Desktop", "Meddelser" (Messages) and "iContact".
It seems that the snapshots were taken too fast perhaps. In VTC, which of the following configures the delay before snapshots are taken? "scan shot time" or "Capture interval".
Also, I have 3 icons from the phone app called "Telefon", but putting "Telefon" or even "Phone" in the banned display list in VTC doesn't make the icons stay away... :-/
Update: Putting "Telefon " (note the space at the end) did the trick. Phone icons are hidden now.
Wolfman-XP
17th October 2008, 10:20 AM
I just activated VT and it showed 9 (nine) icons. The desktop was shown 3 times, with these names "Desktop", "Meddelser" (Messages) and "iContact".
It seems that the snapshots were taken too fast perhaps. In VTC, which of the following configures the delay before snapshots are taken? "scan shot time" or "Capture interval".
Also, I have 3 icons from the phone app called "Telefon", but putting "Telefon" or even "Phone" in the banned display list in VTC doesn't make the icons stay away... :-/
Update: Putting "Telefon " (note the space at the end) did the trick. Phone icons are hidden now.
It is the scan-shot time. Try setting it to a higher value. Itīs the time after a switch to the window the snapshot is taken at first-time scan.
galmok
17th October 2008, 11:51 AM
There is also an image-resize algorithm given here:
http://www.codeproject.com/KB/graphics/2_pass_scaling.aspx
In one of the comments, it has been converted to use integer arithmetic with a great speed up.
Just mentioning it in case you lack stuff to put in VT ;-)
Regarding that, how about providing a menu to e.g. show some info (not sure what) or just to allow to close a program or something...
Or what about offereing a fixed spot to show a specific window/program? To avoid having to search for e.g. the today screen or other often opened programs? Not sure who it should look to prevent it from being messy, but having known positions of programs can make "blind" usage possible. Of course, a spot fixed for a window is not to be used for other windows.
Assigning spots could be done using the menu and getting the window to the right spot could be done with drag'n-drop.
galmok
17th October 2008, 03:11 PM
There are still some bugs in 0.96:
After having had TF3D (touchflo3d) started and quitted, VT was again having problems with the background and with the scrolling in landscape mode. In portrait mode, the top of the background was not initialized correctly. Switching to landscape mode, the up/down scrolling was bugged as before (icons and background was being broken apart... difficult to describe the effect).
I rebooted the phone. This helped, but the graphics in the top of the background in both portrait and landscape mode was not looking right. I am using an image slightly smaller than the screen (as scribed in my previous posts). The scrolling was alright, though, as was the newly visible background (of the part just scrolled in).
But then I started TomTom 7 and activated VT. VT presented the icons and I selected the Today screen. No problem. I activated VT again and selected Tomtom, but this was more than VT could cope. It locked up and I had to reboot (using the reset button) the phone to regain control. I did switch between portrait and landscape mode, but I don't know it that was the problem.
Couldn't you insert a watch dog feature in VT? Somehow VT always goes into a busy loop instead of crashes/quits and this is somewhat annoying for a device you depend on being alive ;-)
Update: VT locks up even if I don't swap between portrait and landscape mode. It simply locks up switching to Tomtom 7.
Wolfman-XP
17th October 2008, 03:40 PM
i will check with tomtom next week...
PeacefulWarrior
18th October 2008, 12:21 PM
Bugreport:
When i load VTS, i see the aplications, works good, when i click on one of them, it zooms in as it should but often VTS locks when it's almost completely zoomed in, then have to restart.
On HTC Touch
Otherwise an amazing application
bjevers
20th October 2008, 01:20 AM
I donīt have a prog to make screenshots...:-)
Here's a great free program that can take screenshots. You can also control your ppc from your computer, and drag and drop files to your phone.
http://www.mtux.com/
Wolfman-XP
20th October 2008, 07:34 AM
There are still some bugs in 0.96:
After having had TF3D (touchflo3d) started and quitted, VT was again having problems with the background and with the scrolling in landscape mode. In portrait mode, the top of the background was not initialized correctly. Switching to landscape mode, the up/down scrolling was bugged as before (icons and background was being broken apart... difficult to describe the effect).
I rebooted the phone. This helped, but the graphics in the top of the background in both portrait and landscape mode was not looking right. I am using an image slightly smaller than the screen (as scribed in my previous posts). The scrolling was alright, though, as was the newly visible background (of the part just scrolled in).
But then I started TomTom 7 and activated VT. VT presented the icons and I selected the Today screen. No problem. I activated VT again and selected Tomtom, but this was more than VT could cope. It locked up and I had to reboot (using the reset button) the phone to regain control. I did switch between portrait and landscape mode, but I don't know it that was the problem.
Couldn't you insert a watch dog feature in VT? Somehow VT always goes into a busy loop instead of crashes/quits and this is somewhat annoying for a device you depend on being alive ;-)
Update: VT locks up even if I don't swap between portrait and landscape mode. It simply locks up switching to Tomtom 7.
OK, iīve checked VT together with TomTom 7 and there were no problems. Screenshot was taken, i can switch to and from TomTom. Is there anybody else with the same problems out there...?
galmok
20th October 2008, 11:10 AM
Bugreport:
When i load VTS, i see the aplications, works good, when i click on one of them, it zooms in as it should but often VTS locks when it's almost completely zoomed in, then have to restart.
On HTC Touch
Otherwise an amazing application
This is the error I get with Tomtom 7.
Wolfman-XP
20th October 2008, 11:32 AM
Try 0.961 Version
galmok
20th October 2008, 04:43 PM
Try 0.961 Version
I can now switch to Tomtom 7 without freezing. :-)
It does take a second or so before showing VT and the same after the zoom, but it doesn't freeze. That is good enough for me. :-)
The scrolling (3x up swipe motion) doesn't scroll completely to the bottom. There is a slight gap left that requires a 4th swipe. But the other way only requires 3 swipes.
nir36
20th October 2008, 05:34 PM
fast. great... great. fast. :)
galmok
21st October 2008, 10:53 AM
Hmm I still get left-over Visual tasks folder entries in the Programs list...
Wolfman-XP
21st October 2008, 02:09 PM
New DirectX Alpha version online. Should have better performance. Try it wih your devices.....
galmok
22nd October 2008, 10:43 AM
New DirectX Alpha version online. Should have better performance. Try it wih your devices.....
I did. Doesn't work. When started from Total Commander using a double-tap, it flips through all open windows (as the normal VT does) and then ends up showing a completely black screen. I can click on the screen and I get back to the last program VTDD has shown. It apparently then quits (not present in the task list).
The I started VTDD from Total Commander using a the OK button and that apparently made it behave differently. It showed the total commander screen, but in a very poor resolution. I could tap the screen and get back to Total Commander again.
Then I double tapped in TC and VTDD started again(!) It seems that VTDD listens for double-taps even though it isn't active. With the today screen, double-tab doesn't active VTDD. Also not from ActiveSync. But it always happens in TC. At any rate, activating VTDD doesn't show icons. It shows the icon zoomed to full screen size.
Mapping VTDD to a hardware button directly makes it behave like in TC when started using a hardware button, i.e. doesn't show a screen with icons, but only 1 icons zoomed to full screen.
Edit: Ehm, double tapping in Total Commander will start the application highlighted, as long as you double tab in an empty area of the screen. This is what I did and that is why TC started VTDD on double tap. Didn't know that feature. :-P
Wolfman-XP
22nd October 2008, 10:48 AM
I did. Doesn't work. When started from Total Commander using a double-tap, it flips through all open windows (as the normal VT does) and then ends up showing a completely black screen. I can click on the screen and I get back to the last program VTDD has shown. It apparently then quits (not present in the task list).
The I started VTDD from Total Commander using a the OK button and that apparently made it behave differently. It showed the total commander screen, but in a very poor resolution. I could tap the screen and get back to Total Commander again.
Then I double tapped in TC and VTDD started again(!) It seems that VTDD listens for double-taps even though it isn't active. With the today screen, double-tab doesn't active VTDD. Also not from ActiveSync. But it always happens in TC. At any rate, activating VTDD doesn't show icons. It shows the icon zoomed to full screen size.
Mapping VTDD to a hardware button directly makes it behave like in TC when started using a hardware button, i.e. doesn't show a screen with icons, but only 1 icons zoomed to full screen.
Edit: Ehm, double tapping in Total Commander will start the application highlighted, as long as you double tab in an empty area of the screen. This is what I did and that is why TC started VTDD on double tap. Didn't know that feature. :-P
Strange.....try the new Alpha 2.....
PeacefulWarrior
22nd October 2008, 02:47 PM
Try 0.961 Version
With this version it works better, not perfect.
Instead of locking the device completey, it now locks the device for about 10 seconds. Do not have to restart anymore thou.
fredcatsmommy
22nd October 2008, 03:09 PM
very fast with the new file.
galmok
23rd October 2008, 02:15 PM
Strange.....try the new Alpha 2.....
Tried it. No change.
First time I start it, it flips through the windows and ends up showing a black screen. I click somewhere and get to one of the windows.
The second time I active VTDD, it just shows the open window but in a low resolution. I can click the image and am returned to the window.
It matters where I click. The icon position is still assumed to be a 3x3 layout, and I can click the spots on the screen correlating to those positions and get the expected window. But the display doesn't show the icons, just 1 icon zoom to screen size.
Wolfman-XP
24th October 2008, 11:39 AM
0.97 Version with DirectDraw support available...
nhatt
24th October 2008, 11:45 AM
0.97 Version with DirectDraw support available...
I glad to try now.Thanks for update,nice job.
iori
24th October 2008, 01:34 PM
nice apps
will try it later
thx:)
bjevers
24th October 2008, 09:12 PM
Not working for me on my Hermes running WM6.1 with M2D. The screen flashes and cycles through all the apps that are open, but that's it. I never get the Visual Tasks screen. Previous non DD versions worked.
alireza_simkesh
24th October 2008, 09:25 PM
Hey everybody!
I just installed the new version (0.97) on my device (Asus P525) on MiniSD card.
When i try to run VisualTasks.exe, it gives me this error: "The file 'VisualTasks' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. You might need to reinstall or restore this file."
Any clues on how to fix this?!
thanks! http://justusdivers.com/yabb/Smilies/dankk2.gif
fredcatsmommy
24th October 2008, 10:04 PM
.97 not working for me either. while it runs through the different screens, it doesn't then put them all up. On the other hand, .96 with additional file works perfectly.
alireza_simkesh
25th October 2008, 12:18 AM
well i had the same problem with 0.96 as well....http://i36.tinypic.com/2aacbdf.gif
heatd1
26th October 2008, 03:19 AM
I lov the program worx great on my xv6800
problem: I keep getting the error msg "ARGUEMENTNULLEXCEPTION"
whenever I go to the settings menu and press SAVE.
i'm allowed to EXIT out of settings and use the program as easily as the previous release but can adjust the settings
thanx in advance for any help any1 can offer and more importantly thanx for the great freeware
Wolfman-XP
26th October 2008, 07:29 PM
Hm, did you use the latest version? Try to delete the reg-key at HKLM\software\wolf\tools...
Enzo2387
28th October 2008, 09:34 AM
I lov the program worx great on my xv6800
problem: I keep getting the error msg "ARGUEMENTNULLEXCEPTION"
whenever I go to the settings menu and press SAVE.
i'm allowed to EXIT out of settings and use the program as easily as the previous release but can adjust the settings
thanx in advance for any help any1 can offer and more importantly thanx for the great freeware
Same story over here, with the same hardware. Also, .97 doesn't even run for me. 961 runs smoothly, but I just can't save any configuration settings because of that 'ArgumentNullException' message.
heatd1
28th October 2008, 09:52 AM
just did the mr1 update and now I can't get 97 to run at all
first no overclocking now this...terrible
epicurean
28th October 2008, 10:33 AM
Looks great. Does it work on the Omnia?
mst46
28th October 2008, 06:08 PM
Sorry .97DD not working on my Diamond :-(.
.965 works pretty good - will have to stay on .965.
Regards,
mst
Blowfish64
28th October 2008, 08:28 PM
.97 working on my Tilt. Still has a long way to go though. There's a lot of tearing in the top bar when zooming in on a thumbnail. Looks very shoddy. Also the text looks bad. TaskFacade has corrected this with a semi-transparent image behind it. And lastly, one of the thumbnails is always bigger than the rest in layouts 3 and 4, but there doesn't seem to be a reason for that. It's not like you can select them with directional keys or anything in which case it would make sense to denote it's selected.
Anyway, keep working ;)
syrguy1969
14th January 2009, 03:31 PM
Just ran across this thread and it looks pretty interesting for use on my Omnia!!
I was just wondering if it was still under development, or if there were any future plans for it?
Thanks, I will be testing it soon!!
Wolfman-XP
15th January 2009, 10:01 AM
Just ran across this thread and it looks pretty interesting for use on my Omnia!!
I was just wondering if it was still under development, or if there were any future plans for it?
Thanks, I will be testing it soon!!
Work is paused because i have no time at the moment. But it will be resumed in the near future...
Greets,
Thomas
syrguy1969
15th January 2009, 02:39 PM
Work is paused because i have no time at the moment. But it will be resumed in the near future...
Greets,
Thomas
Works for me, I just installed it last night, but due to other issues I haven't had a chance to test, I'll give feedback with use on the Omnia to help out with any future development!! Thanks fot the response!!
gaelynx
8th February 2009, 06:58 PM
Thank you lah
rainabba
9th April 2009, 05:55 PM
When installed on my Vogue (build 21202) this doesn't appear to work according to your description. If I open a few applications, then click the VisualTasks shortcut (looks like a lock), it appears that my device cycles through all the open applications, then stops. I don't get the little preview windows.
Have I just done something wrong?
Helza
19th April 2009, 07:35 PM
same problem here, just seems to cycle trough the apps.. :(
neeth
10th May 2009, 06:45 PM
this application is really cool in the videos and i liked it very much... but its not working on my htc touch hd... any solution for this please..:):):):)
GreenOmnia
10th May 2009, 10:01 PM
It takes about 1.5 Megs of Memory with 8 screen-shots of 240*320 quality (for the zoom-effect), itīs about 120-150Kb per process. At the moment a screenshot are taken after 2 sec a new process is started.
Just try it....if you like it use, if not donīt use it..:-)
Please tell me, does that means that my device will run more slowly? Because I don't want that, but the app seems to be good.
GreenOmnia
10th May 2009, 11:09 PM
Ok, I've installed it on my Omnia and it seems good so far (I haven't test all the features yet).
But I've got a problem - in the 'Buttons' menu at 'Settings', I can't set it to start up when I press a hardware button. Please help!
Thanks.
rainabba
20th May 2009, 03:14 AM
When installed on my Vogue (build 21202) this doesn't appear to work according to your description. If I open a few applications, then click the VisualTasks shortcut (looks like a lock), it appears that my device cycles through all the open applications, then stops. I don't get the little preview windows.
Have I just done something wrong?
Just tried with my Herman (Touch Pro CDMA) and had the same experience.
prentiss86
10th December 2009, 12:31 AM
nice app bro keep it up I have it running pretty good on my tp2 i hope you keep working on this app
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