touch 3.5/3.6 M-Amine_2.0_RC3 memory problem

[psicobra@hotmail.com]

hi on the standard ROM my deice has a total of 120MB program memory but with all of those roms the total memory drops down to 84.71MB in use 47.64 does any one know why

[itje]

hi on the standard ROM my deice has a total of 120MB program memory but with all of those roms the total memory drops down to 84.71MB in use 47.64 does any one know why

A shitload of apps within manila :D

[psicobra@hotmail.com]

A shitload of apps within manila :D

yeah i get that but the total RAM should be 120MB it is only 84.71

[itje]

perhaps learning more about what you are reporting could be an idea? :D

Im gonna pretend I did not see this post ;)

im off..cheers

(no offence my friend)

[psicobra@hotmail.com]

perhaps learning more about what you are reporting could be an idea? :D

Im gonna pretend I did not see this post ;)

im off..cheers

(no offence my friend)

well fair enough but maybe u can explain it cause if u got a computer with a total of 120 MB RAM it will always have 120MB ram just becuse apps are using the ram does not decrease the amount of ram your computer has just the amount of memory that is free.

My device has 120 MB of program RAM and with lots of apps runnign i should still have 120MB RAM but i would have a lot less free. As it stand my polaris thinks it only has 87.4 MB of ram of witch 37% is free. Instead 120MB with 37% free

[halorin]

Honestly, I don't understand this either. I haven't tested, but if you install Manila on a ROM that didn't have it cooked in, I doubt the total memory would drop down.

I could only think this is a side effect of the video drivers (meaning the hidden memory is dedicated to the drivers which I'd understand), the other is that it's a bug that hasn't been properly explained/been looked over for some reason.

I'm no expert at ROM cooking by any means, but it definitely looks weird to me.

[itje]

ahwell...

you have theese 2 in your settings/memory: Storage & Program

compare the official rom, with cooked rom, both storage and programs

edit:
forgot to mention, check out your settings/device information hardware tab.


and.... please report your findings here

[psicobra@hotmail.com]

dude i clicked start>settings>memory and it looks like this

Storage | Program
Total: 121.29 MB | Total: 84.71 MB
In use: 19.97 MB | In Use: 56.38 MB
Free 101.32 MB | Free: 28.33 MB

[gerald_s]

dude i clicked start>settings>memory and it looks like this

Storage | Program
Total: 121.29 MB | Total: 84.71 MB
In use: 19.97 MB | In Use: 56.38 MB
Free 101.32 MB | Free: 28.33 MB



Itje told you already: check settings/device information.

The memory information is different from Rom to Rom and from language to language. My stock HTC german WM 6.0 Rom is reporting under "program memory" 100,77 MB, but under "settings - system - device info - hardware" its 128 MB Ram.

The difference is caused by drivers, the pagepool and other things. The more pagepool a rom is having the less total memory you will see. That means the polaris is having 128 MB Ram. But if the Rom is having 28 MB pagepool you will see in memory - program memory only a total of 100 MB. If you want to know details about pagepool please use search. You will find either in upgrading or in development some more details about the pagepool.

I checked now the new HTC 6.1 german Rom, the pagepool is 6 MB according to OM-BYs pagepool changer. As I did not flash it until now I have no idea about the total program memory, but I'm sure its not more than 100 MB because drivers are also needing RAM.

[s_john8686]

Itje told you already: check settings/device information.

The memory information is different from Rom to Rom and from language to language. My stock HTC german WM 6.0 Rom is reporting under "program memory" 100,77 MB, but under "settings - system - device info - hardware" its 128 MB Ram.

The difference is caused by the pagepool and other things. The more pagepool a rom is having the less total memory you will see. That means the polaris is having 128 MB Ram. But if the Rom is having 28 MB pagepool you will see in memory - program memory only a total of 100 MB. If you want to know details about pagepool please use search. You will find either in upgrading or in development some more details about the pagepool.


Well, I think most of us (more often the case) knows about the pagepool settings. Just did not understand why the 32MB pagepool is chosen (in standard rom and most cooked roms) which anyhow do not give much performance adge.

Because of 2 main reasons, I went to use Bepe 0.67 cooked rom :)

1. it's using 12MB pagepool, that means I get 101.46MB program memory, currently disabled BioTouch.exe and loaded in the Manila2D myself, get to obtain free memory of 62MB. Fresh restart I get about 69MB free memory. All programs seems to be running smoother. I can use the phone for many days without the need to restart, though it's a common thing for WinMobile ;) .

2. in the latest official rom, and many other recent cooked roms, I could not run IGO8 (HDD version), which is the best GPS program I have for the country that I am in. And IGO8 needs a lot of memory to run -> reason for me to upgrade from Trinity.

And the worst news is, I tried so many pagepool editor (many versions etc), none seem to be working to bring up my program memory from 84.7MB :(

[gerald_s]

Well, I think most of us (more often the case) knows about the pagepool settings. Just did not understand why the 32MB pagepool is chosen (in standard rom and most cooked roms) which anyhow do not give much performance adge.(

You are right, most of us should know about pagepool. But apparently the thread starter didn't know it thats why I was explaining it once again.

BTW: I downloaded Syrius R1 from UDK, its using 6 MB pagepool, same as HTC stock rom. But maybe OM-BY's pagepool changer can not handle polaris roms and shows an incorrect pagepool size.




Because of 2 main reasons, I went to use Bepe 0.67 cooked rom :)

1. it's using 12MB pagepool, that means I get 101.46MB program memory, currently disabled BioTouch.exe and loaded in the Manila2D myself, get to obtain free memory of 62MB. Fresh restart I get about 69MB free memory. All programs seems to be running smoother. I can use the phone for many days without the need to restart, though it's a common thing for WinMobile ;) .
:(

62 MB free Ram with Manila is great, maybe I should try Bepes Rom :confused:

[psicobra@hotmail.com]

Itje told you already: check settings/device information.

The memory information is different from Rom to Rom and from language to language. My stock HTC german WM 6.0 Rom is reporting under "program memory" 100,77 MB, but under "settings - system - device info - hardware" its 128 MB Ram.

The difference is caused by drivers, the pagepool and other things. The more pagepool a rom is having the less total memory you will see. That means the polaris is having 128 MB Ram. But if the Rom is having 28 MB pagepool you will see in memory - program memory only a total of 100 MB. If you want to know details about pagepool please use search. You will find either in upgrading or in development some more details about the pagepool.

I checked now the new HTC 6.1 german Rom, the pagepool is 6 MB according to OM-BYs pagepool changer. As I did not flash it until now I have no idea about the total program memory, but I'm sure its not more than 100 MB because drivers are also needing RAM.
thank you that is what i was after an explaination

[s_john8686]

thank you that is what i was after an explaination

I think for Polaris, 6MB pagepool means you will have 107MB program memory.

My Bepe 0.67 rom has 12MB pagepool and I get 101MB program memory. I really don't know where other missing memory goes, taking 128MB-12-?? = 101MB.

So it seems the reader you used to chk pagepool produced wrong information. That was what happen when I tried to use pagepool editor to reduce pagepool size.

But the program work fine on Trinity cooked rom.

[iori]

guys,
i use M-Amine 2.0 RTM
and with alot of apps running, i have 37MB memory left
but honestly, i dont feel any different wether its 69MB or 37MB
in fact, i dont pay much attention on free memory and i dont realize that my program memory dropped to 84MB
maybe i'm just too exited with flashing new ROMs:p

[@lber]

I saw my version of Igo8 wouldn't launch if there is less than 45Mo Program memory left. But it launches even with .Net CEFramework V3.5 if it has 48-50 Mo left.
I guess the new build of Igo8 takes less RAM so it could be launched without desactivating M2D in today screen.

I use M-Amine 2.0 RTM.
Maybe Tabs removing in M2D could help freeing some ram too.