Tmobile G1...

[dougstoner]

I've been doing a lot of research, and reading on the G1 forum, but i was just curious what you guys thought about the new Tmobile G1. It looks like a really slick phone and I'm seriously thinking about ordering it.

[zaep0b]

I know a lot of people will post the "its awesome" pitch.... but honestly

pros: extremely powerful hardware with a very stable operating system.

cons: the operating system is very new... meaning that there is no real software or rom development out there for it.... meaning no customization. (and currently no real games at all!!!! lol)
conclusion: im happy enough with my wing that i PERSONALLY will stick with it for a while (especially with ttrans new 7.4 rom - great performance and plenty of space).... as soon as some real progress is made in development for android i will buy a G1

[elsucio03]

I pre-ordered mine 2 hours ago and can't wait to get mine on November 10th.
I have the Wing and love it but I'm the type of person that gets bored really fast. So G1 here I come!

[fuenbry]

I pre-ordered mine 2 hours ago and can't wait to get mine on November 10th.
I have the Wing and love it but I'm the type of person that gets bored really fast. So G1 here I come!

Well if your that type of person then you will only be entertained by the G1 for about a week... i've been doing some reseach on it and most of the reviews say that its pretty basic and needs work by developers! the only reason i would get one is the fact that it has the hardware to support 3G..but my location wont have it till next year so im happy with my wing!!:D

[ilikepu]

i personally love my wing

i can see my self upgrading to the touch pro instead of the g1
i ilke the innovative look the the g1 but if i get some hand on with it i can see which phone i will go to

i have had a lot of hands on with the touch diamond so i can fix a lot of the issues with the touch pro if i get it

[itslinx]

Look, I loved my Wing when I had it too. But any one who thinks the G1 won't blow the Wing out of the water is ridiculously stupid. And I don't say that to offend any one either. Do some research. Look at what the phone can do and what they phone will do in the future. People can make applications. That right there says a bunch. Imagine the kind of shit we'll be able to use. Android may be new, but it's gotten great reviews. As time goes on, it will only get better for the G1 and its users. There's a reason they've sold over 1.5 million pre-orders for the G1. Stick with Windows Mobile if you want, lol.

[ilikepu]

Look, I loved my Wing when I had it too. But any one who thinks the G1 won't blow the Wing out of the water is ridiculously stupid. And I don't say that to offend any one either. Do some research. Look at what the phone can do and what they phone will do in the future. People can make applications. That right there says a bunch. Imagine the kind of shit we'll be able to use. Android may be new, but it's gotten great reviews. As time goes on, it will only get better for the G1 and its users. There's a reason they've sold over 1.5 million pre-orders for the G1. Stick with Windows Mobile if you want, lol.
i think i will i do want to try the g1 but i dont like how limited the 3g coverage is but it does look like a good phone

[dougstoner]

Look, I loved my Wing when I had it too. But any one who thinks the G1 won't blow the Wing out of the water is ridiculously stupid. And I don't say that to offend any one either. Do some research. Look at what the phone can do and what they phone will do in the future. People can make applications. That right there says a bunch. Imagine the kind of shit we'll be able to use. Android may be new, but it's gotten great reviews. As time goes on, it will only get better for the G1 and its users. There's a reason they've sold over 1.5 million pre-orders for the G1. Stick with Windows Mobile if you want, lol.

I just wish I had one so I could actually spend time with it. The fact that it's more or less open source, means there will be a ton of programs and applications once there is time to make them. I think I'll hold off for a bit, but 179 is ridiculously cheap compared to the wing, and has the hardware to smoke, but for the time being, I think I'll just keep moddin my wing and do some more research. :)

[ilikepu]

I just wish I had one so I could actually spend time with it. The fact that it's more or less open source, means there will be a ton of programs and applications once there is time to make them. I think I'll hold off for a bit, but 179 is ridiculously cheap compared to the wing, and has the hardware to smoke, but for the time being, I think I'll just keep moddin my wing and do some more research. :)

amen to that

[dougstoner]

amen to that

Hey congrats on your 100th post. You are officially a SENIOR member. ;) Glad I could help!

[POOPIE4279]

i believe the g1 will b a wonderful fone but wing is an excellent fone.u guys are jumping to the g1 not knowing wat ur getting into ill wait to get one 2nd hand.just my two cents

[dougstoner]

i believe the g1 will b a wonderful fone but wing is an excellent fone.u guys are jumping to the g1 not knowing wat ur getting into ill wait to get one 2nd hand.just my two cents

Nah, I'm going to wait and do more research and see what programs, roms, and games become available. I think I'll stick with the wing for now, and just mod and flash roms every other week! lol. But, the G1 is only 179 so thats a huge price drop. Either way, I really can't wait to see what becomes available for the G1.

[zaep0b]

what would be great would be a g1 wm6 port - with fully functional drivers..... i know everyone is talking about getting android on their phone, but just think for a second how nice it would be to get a nice new extremely fast phone for 170 odd dollars and continue using all the software you are familiar with.... and then as soon as application development and customization become mainsteam for android you could always flash back. i know its too much to wish for because of the lack of drivers, but it would be great for me if it ended up happening

[dougstoner]

what would be great would be a g1 wm6 port - with fully functional drivers..... i know everyone is talking about getting android on their phone, but just think for a second how nice it would be to get a nice new extremely fast phone for 170 odd dollars and continue using all the software you are familiar with.... and then as soon as application development and customization become mainsteam for android you could always flash back. i know its too much to wish for because of the lack of drivers, but it would be great for me if it ended up happening

You know, that would be PERFECT. I'm really not that familiar with the Android o.s., but if they could incorporate it into WM6, then it would be hands down the winner. We could use everything we already use to load applications, etc. Since it's supposed to be open source, maybe somebody will figure out how to do it?!?

[pauldeleeuw]

This month in PC Magazine (October 2008) Sascha Sagan, the director of new product reviews, said this,"never buy a product in the first few weeks after it comes out. Wait a month. By then... you will be able to tell if something is really worth a buy".
My two cents,

Paul D.

[papito2181]

G1 will eventually be better than the wing, just not now. There's alot of holes that need patching up in the os to make it a real competitor to wm. When u compare Android right now to say ttran otp 7.x, Android isn't even in the same league. But give it some time, and maybe Android 2.0, then u'll really start seeing what G1 can do.

Also, this will be a fun phone in regards to xda's developing and hacking community and also to us, the end-user. As people start accessing and examing the innards of Android, who knows what juicy things can be created and imagined. Only issue i see is the stuff they left out, but the os seems to be solid with no real problems experienced. Messaging needs work, with mms being the main problem (can't send gifs or video).

[dougstoner]

G1 will eventually be better than the wing, just not now. There's alot of holes that need patching up in the os to make it a real competitor to wm. When u compare Android right now to say ttran otp 7.x, Android isn't even in the same league. But give it some time, and maybe Android 2.0, then u'll really start seeing what G1 can do.

Also, this will be a fun phone in regards to xda's developing and hacking community and also to us, the end-user. As people start accessing and examing the innards of Android, who knows what juicy things can be created and imagined. Only issue i see is the stuff they left out, but the os seems to be solid with no real problems experienced. Messaging needs work, with mms being the main problem (can't send gifs or video).

Yeah I agree. Seeing how this phone is really meant to be modified, I can't even imagine the amount of software, roms, mods, etc there will be for this phone. I do think it will take some time, so I believe I will hold off, but I'm pretty excited about it.

[josefcrist]

You know, that would be PERFECT. I'm really not that familiar with the Android o.s., but if they could incorporate it into WM6, then it would be hands down the winner. We could use everything we already use to load applications, etc. Since it's supposed to be open source, maybe somebody will figure out how to do it?!?

that is exactly what i want. i just want to keep useing windows mobile. it has been around for ever (ce). hopefully someone in the linux community will figure out how to flash it to what ever you want.

[damnitpud]

I am a G1/Wing owner. I got my G1 2 days ago and i can tell you, i am very happy with the phone so far. I do miss using TTran's OPT and hope they port TouchFlo2D to Android. The Manilla Theme is the best i've seen!

I am also one of those people that would much rather run Linux on my PCs at home, but don't because i am in the IT field so i need to stay current on Windows. Anyhow, I understand people wanting to wait and recommend most do that. I am not usually the type to jump on a product at Version 1 until some updates and public testing has been done. But i am looking forward to Android's growing pains!

[foltz61]

I just upgraded to a G1. What I did was, when the G1 presale was announced, I called to say I was going to cancel my service soon and asked what they would offer to keep me. The CS rep asked what I had in mind. I said I wanted the to see if there was a way to get the G1 with 1 a year contract. The CS rep told me not until after the actual launch but she would lower my unlimited family text messaging to $9.99 permanently if I would wait until the launch to decide. I agreed. So today, I called back for the G1. They offered me the G1 for $179 + NO $18 upgrade fee if I agreed to keep my four lines for 1 year. So, that's what I did. I wasn't going to cancel anyway because, it's hard top beat T-Mo's rates, even if the coverage is a little weaker than other carriers in my area. My Wing will likely be up for sale after I evaluate the G1.

Update:

I just canceled my order. I don't want to put $800 on the line to save $300.

[dougstoner]

I am a G1/Wing owner. I got my G1 2 days ago and i can tell you, i am very happy with the phone so far. I do miss using TTran's OPT and hope they port TouchFlo2D to Android. The Manilla Theme is the best i've seen!

I am also one of those people that would much rather run Linux on my PCs at home, but don't because i am in the IT field so i need to stay current on Windows. Anyhow, I understand people wanting to wait and recommend most do that. I am not usually the type to jump on a product at Version 1 until some updates and public testing has been done. But i am looking forward to Android's growing pains!

Nice...I really haven't been able to find much software at all for the G1. Have you? I also heard the app store isn't quite what it is supposed to be, but I really don't like the idea of paying for software. (I'm not talking about warez either), I just mean freeware.

[iPhone iWing]

ok all of you have horrible taste!! touch diamond? touch pro?? what?!?! no way.. TOUCH HD baby!!!! lol jp... but no seriously lol.. the most beautiful and sickest phone that HTC is releasing.. i mean ya i got the g1 and yes its sick.. but it lacks task mangager and a soft reset.. which is like what?? also pc sycn is horrible.. nothing happens.. it only reconizes the sd.. ya wow.. thats great to edit and diagnose your phone with. so im a little sad with it. but its very very sexy, super inpresive fast!!! easy interface.. internet with tmobile edge has increased in speed compared to my wing.. dont worries guys. my wing will be mine forever lol!!!!! fo sho..

[damnitpud]

Nice...I really haven't been able to find much software at all for the G1. Have you? I also heard the app store isn't quite what it is supposed to be, but I really don't like the idea of paying for software. (I'm not talking about warez either), I just mean freeware.

I haven't been looking for software for the G1 other then on the Market. Without anyway to flash the original firmware back on to the phone from the PC, i won't be downloading random apps! There are way to many malicious people out there to be grabbing rogue apps.

Have you found anything good? I am looking forward to the IPhone type virtual keyboard, task manager and a file browser =)

[iPhone iWing]

I haven't been looking for software for the G1 other then on the Market. Without anyway to flash the original firmware back on to the phone from the PC, i won't be downloading random apps! There are way to many malicious people out there to be grabbing rogue apps.

Have you found anything good? I am looking forward to the IPhone type virtual keyboard, task manager and a file browser =)

I am really looking foward to a touch keyboard ne kind! I would really like a task manger also and something that allows for an easier soft reset.
For dling random apps you can always hard reset your phone. That's most def not hard

[damnitpud]

For dling random apps you can always hard reset your phone. That's most def not hard

But what if the app was written to destroy all data on the phone? Not sure if one is out there yet, but i am sure there will be one. Until TMobile releases a RUU i will not be downloading non-market apps unless there is a lot of feed back on it.

[dougstoner]

Well, I finally got to the store and got to play around on a G1, and I have to say, I wasn't all that pleased. The layout reminded me of a regular old cell phone and I wasn't a big fan of having a bunch of icons on the home screen. Now, I assume since it's designed to have an open os, there will be ways to customize it all, but all in all, I was disappointed. Plus, the keyboard was TERRIBLE. You really couldn't tell if you were pushing the button or not. I did like the feel of the slide out screen. It felt like it had some stability and wouldn't break. The screen was really sweet though, and I love the touchscreen. Also, I wish the buttons on the front were laid out a little different. They look very archaic. ...just my 2 cents.

[mywing4me]

My Husband is on his SECOND phone today. He received his G1 when they first came out and it started giving him trouble. He said the ''second'' batch is suppose to be the batch that is working properly.. So, we will see. But, I played with his phone and there is NO WAY I will lay down my wing for the G1.

[dougstoner]

My Husband is on his SECOND phone today. He received his G1 when they first came out and it started giving him trouble. He said the ''second'' batch is suppose to be the batch that is working properly.. So, we will see. But, I played with his phone and there is NO WAY I will lay down my wing for the G1.

Wow, really? Eek, well my plans for getting one just took a halt.
Well, we will see once the software starts pouring out for it. As it stands now, I really don't like the overall feel of the software, and the look either. I could get used to the ugly buttons on the front, but navigating is a pain in the arse. The only pros is the screen is beautiful.

[holiday5804]

Wow, really? Eek, well my plans for getting one just took a halt.
Well, we will see once the software starts pouring out for it. As it stands now, I really don't like the overall feel of the software, and the look either. I could get used to the ugly buttons on the front, but navigating is a pain in the arse. The only pros is the screen is beautiful.


I bought 2 G1's with the intent on selling both of them and the phone started calling my name, so I was forced to start playing with one of them and now own a G1:) There are definitely things I like about the herald better, especially with OT 7.3. but the G1 has it's perks too. The keyboard is nice once you get used to it although I can't type as fast as on my wing. The screen itself is brilliant and kills the wing. Speed, both with 3g and with the stronger processor also kills the wing. My largest drawback right now is the difficulty of syncing my outlook calendar with google calender as I keep getting an error message. IWhen someone develops a program so that the G1 can sync with activesync it will be the greatest day of my life! Overall, the wing does have it's perks, but once you get used to the speed and enhanced capabilities of the G1 you will not want to go back. Now if only someone would hurry up and develop an on-screen keyboard........

[lightfighter]

its a good phone.......... just needs some more apps

I like it its fast and pretty sleek..... just wondering is it as tough as my wing?

[diabolical28]

no one here said the G1 wouldnt blow the wing out of the water BUT its still so brand new that there is NOTHING really out there for it yet. Also as far as i am concerned with googles monster FLOP on the Chrome roll-out im happy to wait until the dust settles and the price comes down.

[asctony]

I have looked at the G1 and played with it. The local T-Mobiles do not have it onhand. My area is not G3.
Research/reviews not very impressive.
I have been looking at the Blackberry Storm and that seems to be a much better phone than the G1. MHO
Anyone think/review the Storm?

[diabolical28]

Here are the specs of the Storm

http://na.blackberry.com/eng/devices/blackberrystorm/storm_specifications.jsp?navId=H0,C381,S2

im not a fan of blackberry since i had WM5-6 but if its for your taste some key notes are a touchscreen 1gig on phone with 128 rom. microsd expandable...

[Dalamak]

what would be great would be a g1 wm6 port - with fully functional drivers..... i know everyone is talking about getting android on their phone, but just think for a second how nice it would be to get a nice new extremely fast phone for 170 odd dollars and continue using all the software you are familiar with.... and then as soon as application development and customization become mainsteam for android you could always flash back. i know its too much to wish for because of the lack of drivers, but it would be great for me if it ended up happening


I'm hoping and prayin for someone to come up with a WM6 port

[fishwiz45]

I'm hoping and prayin for someone to come up with a WM6 port

amen! me too!!!

i want to use fpsece... the playstation emu on the g1. it must have WM on it first though.

[Dalamak]

Well I think I'm gonna throw in the towel and return the G1, I'm just not happy with it. The Phone is pretty ugly and the Android os is just too new, I need my Winmo's market saturation. I'm constanlty uninstalling apps and cleaning the cahce to free up the internal memory. Not being a Dev I feel trapped in this os, and constantly looking for something new to come up

[techimanu]

Looking back, G1 was still an awesome phone to start with