Dead Battery HTC Wizard

[MattyZee]

Hi all, for those of you that have experienced a totally dead battery you'll know the pain it is to get it going again. I have recently had this happen and decided to post a fix on here.

Lesson #1 Dont let your battery die completely, if you get a low battery alarm, turn your phone right off till you can charge it.

Lesson #2 If your battery dies completely, just throwing it on the charger wont charge it. This is because the Operating System looks after the charging. If your OS wont load, your battery wont charge.

FIX:
After trying various methods on the net, I found a surefire way to jump start your Wizard so you can get it charging.

You'll need : 3 x AAA batteries and 2 lengths of wire and some tape.
I cheated here, I managed to pull a 3 pack AAA battery setup out of a regular Panasonic cordless phone which saved me having to piggy back the batteries.

1) If you dont have a battery pack, you'll need to piggy back the batteries. + to minus on each one so that you have 3 batteries connected to each other with one free + and - side. Use the tape to keep the wires from moving around and getting loose.

2) Remove the battery from the phone.

3) Put a wire from the + side to the top connector of the phone battery connection ( top gold pin, right hand side of phone nearest to the power button )

4) Put the other wire from the - side to the bottom connector of the phone battery connection ( bottom gold pin, right hand side of phone nearest to the camera button )
*** There are 6 gold connections sticking out on the side. Make sure the wires only touch the top and bottom pins. Bend them round if you have to and clip them if needed.

5) Try the phone and it should switch on now. If it does, push the battery back into place while its loading.

6) As soon as you get to the today screen, plug your charger in. Wait about 1 minute and check its charging ( from the battery icon under seconds ).

7) If its charging remove the wires from the AAA battery combo ( in case they explode or something ).

Hope this helps the next poor soul that didnt have time to charge their battery before it died completely. And thanks to all the posters that have helped me out with my problems. Long live the Wizard

[ashasaur]

While this is a good post, it in not entirely true. If your battery completly dies, you can infact use a standard wall charger that outputs 1AMP or more of power to charge it with, even if you phone wont start. The charger that is included with all HTC devices outputs 1AMP, so they should all be useable. Good post otherwise though!

[MattyZee]

Thanks ashasaur. When I posted this I did not have access to a standard wall charger. However looking at getting one just in case this happens to me again. HA I hope not.

[gregb49]

Thanks for all that advice. In desperation, I have just bought a new battery and was relieved to see my Prophet come back to life, having, yes, let the battery run completely down. (I am away from home, where I left my charger as the Prophet seemed to charge quite happily from a USB port)

If 3 AAA batteries work ok (~4.5 volts), wouldn't it be a bit safer just to connect them to the dead battery for a while, as described above, to give it a bit of a charge, rather than risk the phone, or isn't 4.5 volts enough? Greg

[pawanmehta]

Earlier I was afraid of dead battery and use to turn off my kjam but later I got an idea and purchased one 4.5 v 500 ma wall adaptor($1 only) and cut the end socket and use it to give initial charge.

Earlier I was so much worried about my battery that had to put it in charging point where ever I find a usb port but now seems Kjam battery knows that's why haven't died for 2-3 months even though sometimes I forgot to charge it in night :)

[gregb49]

... purchased one 4.5 v 500 ma wall adaptor($1 only) and cut the end socket and use it to give initial chargeGreat idea. Just tried it with an in-car USB power adaptor, but it didn't supply enough oomph. If you follow pawanmehta's advice, you might want to check out this site - USB pin out and lead details (http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml) - for the correct leads to wire up.

A quick look around the internet suggests that mains to USB power adaptors are available at £4.85 (UK) or $15 USA but I expect a proper search would turn up cheaper items. Greg

[DooMaster]

It works with a O2 XDA Mini S, but it didnt work at first time: I have to put the cable with the 3-battery-arrangement and the 3.7 1400mAh battery at the same time, it's looks like that it wont turn on if the pins are not pressed, but well, I succesfully boot and now i'm charging (i remove the 3 battery arrangement).

And, I use 3 AA Duracell batteries, I tought it's the same than using 3 AAA, 'cause they use the same voltage (1.5 for common, and 1.2 for rechargeable).

Best regards, and thanks a lot MattyZee, u have my blessings

[DooMaster]

It works with a O2 XDA Mini S, but it didnt work at first time: I have to put the cable with the 3-battery-arrangement and the 3.7 1400mAh battery at the same time, it's looks like that it wont turn on if the pins are not pressed, but well, I succesfully boot and now i'm charging (i remove the 3 battery arrangement).

And, I use 3 AA Duracell batteries, I tought it's the same than using 3 AAA, 'cause they use the same voltage (1.5 for common, and 1.2 for rechargeable).

Best regards, and thanks a lot MattyZee, u have my blessings

[the-nj]

hey everybody...
i read the thread a few days ago and thought...okay good to know but that will never happen to me now that i know that it shouldnt...
now...a few days later...of course it happenend...:-)
soo...i tried everything. but the things are complecated to do alone...with all the wires and then pushing the power button and installing the battery again...
so i had to give up...
but here is another way how to do it...
it is already beein mentioned i think...
use the 3 battery combo, 2 wires at both ends, take out the dead battery and put the - wire to the pin at the very botton (the bin at the longer end) and the + at the other end.
hold that just for about a minute (i think i just holded it for 10 seconds but a minute would be better maybe...)
and then put the battery back in and it should start...

oh and i tried to use a 1400mA wall adapter and it didnt worked...

but try to avoid that...
it is not a nice situation seeing youre wizard dieing like that...
and at first i thought it is not the battery...i thought it is broken...:-)
so avoid it if possible...:-)
thats it...

[ace14_007]

What is length wire (sorry if it's a idiotic question)

please help

btw, I have O2 xda mini S.

And can I use 3 AA batteries????

[kurtslashmx]

thanks a lot,it worked :D

once again THANK YOU

[Firestrikers]

You guys are geniusses :D It started, but when it started I put the charger in it fro my laptop and waited a while (removed batteries) then i saw it was charging but when I was waiting some more it yust fell off !! So i started it up again with the AAA's and then putted charger back in and i was using the phone, I saw it was charging and I looked @ lvl and it kept on saying it was on 0 % :s Then i thought let me wait a while and i stopped using it so it fell off again, what did I do wrong twice ?
Thx

[thisnthat]

A 9v Battery (The type you find in smoke alarms) does the job as well.

ONLY connect it for a couple of seconds, but repeat about 5 times then connect it upto a usb data lead and after about 10 seconds it should kick in.

After its been charging for about 30 mins turn the Wizard on.

Have succesfully used this method on 3 Wizards now and it works every time!

Don't Forget To Put The Battery Back In Your Smoke Alarm!

[AKMark]

Thank you. I have a Kaiser that I love, and was just handed a Wizard that wouldn't even start. This post let me boot it and start the charge.

Thanks.

[username13]

Apologies for bumping an old(ish) thread but I've tried this jump start method and seem to be having no luck with it.

I've tried the methods suggested, using 3 AAA batteries didn't seem to do a thing for me, but I've had a slight result using one of those square 9V batteries; the camera flash comes on and the screen lights up but wm doesn't begin booting up (the screen just stays blank but lit).

I've also tried attempting to give the battery some charge using the method mentioned earlier but that too doesn't seem to be working either.

The battery in question is brand new (one of those extended ones with a higher mAh) and I'm assuming it's arrived with zero charge in it.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

(incase anybody is wondering, the wizard boots up fine using a different battery which is charged)
edit: if it's of any relevance, the wizard's a g4.
edit2: I've tried charging it with the wall charger but all that seems to happen is a red light flashes once every 5/10 seconds and the screen flickers on then off

[username13]

Update: After numerous attempts at jump starting, my wizard now refuses to charge whatsoever.
The light flashes orange (I did follow the guide posted on the wiki about that but it had no effect) but it comes up saying it's charging onscreen, however it simply doesn't charge (the battery life just slowly drops).

It's the same using either the wall charger or usb.
I did try taking the battery out/doing a soft reset/doing a hard rest but to no avail.

Would I be correct in assuming my wizard's now broken?

I'd just donated my blueangel to a friend too as I thought I'd no longer need it, but now i'm left without a phone:(

[username13]

I've found a standalone battery charger on the internet for around £10 or so, I might give that a try. If it works, I'll have my wizard back, albeit without being able to charge it while it's switched on. On the plus side, it would eliminate the need to jump start it ever again though.

[undertuga]

This problem is quite a hard time for the wizard users...

I know many users with 2 or 3 wizards in the closet because they just died, and there are none powered batterys around...

I hope this can help someone, somehow...

WIZARD RESURRECTION (http://sites.google.com/site/undertuga/blog/qtek9100akawizardresurrection)

Props to all!

undertuga

[razorgraphix]

How did u make out with the battery issue? I have the same prob and the light on the camera lights up but i can't get it to charge and i'm using a new battery any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks

[gregb49]

Just to repeat a comment made by ashasaur 12 months ago. You need a 1amp charger. Although someone had success with a 500mA charger, that wouldn't work for me, whilst a 1000mA (1Amp) charger worked to recover a completely discharged battery.

A new battery should not have zero charge. NiMH batteries do not like being left around fully discharged and, to the best of my knowledge, are not supplied discharged.

[thecleverblonde]

Hi all, I had this problem yesterday. I had 2 completely dead batteries, and the phone wouldn't turn on or begin to recharge the battery. There is a simple fix though:


put the battery in the freezer for about an hour
with the battery out, plug the phone in
place the cold battery into the phone
the battery will now begin to charge as normal


I hope this helps you get your phone up and running so that you don't have to buy a new battery.

TCB

[sniffertobi]

you area liar--i tryed it and it does not work :P

[potatodevice]

Hi all, I had this problem yesterday. I had 2 completely dead batteries, and the phone wouldn't turn on or begin to recharge the battery. There is a simple fix though:


put the battery in the freezer for about an hour
with the battery out, plug the phone in
place the cold battery into the phone
the battery will now begin to charge as normal


I hope this helps you get your phone up and running so that you don't have to buy a new battery.

TCB
i've heard something about that method, is that what they call a "Warming Up" :p by the way, im gonna try to make my dead Wiz rise and shine again tomorrow, now im gonna sleep

c'Ya!

[moby_test]

Hi all, I had this problem yesterday. I had 2 completely dead batteries, and the phone wouldn't turn on or begin to recharge the battery. There is a simple fix though:


put the battery in the freezer for about an hour
with the battery out, plug the phone in
place the cold battery into the phone
the battery will now begin to charge as normal


I hope this helps you get your phone up and running so that you don't have to buy a new battery.

TCB

this is stupid, you can damage your battery. just cut a usb cable and use the + wire (usualy red) and - wire (usualy black) by holding them on + and - of the battery for a wile