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darthbane2k
23rd November 2008, 09:53 PM
I'll let the picture do most of the talking



Blackberry:
http://www.rimarkable.com/images/Facebook_for_BlackBerry.jpg

iPhone:
http://asia.cnet.com/i/r/2007/hp/62030914/facebook_for_iphone_500.jpg

Android:
http://androidcommunity.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/fbook-screenshot1png.jpg


post to be continued...

darthbane2k
23rd November 2008, 09:54 PM
Xperia (sadly exclusive thanks to the 'panels' and sony ericssons efforts to fragment the windows mobile community)

http://wmpoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/facebookexperia11.jpg

http://pocketnow.com/html/portal/news/0000006275/NewsImage/facebook.jpg


Us..

http://on10.net/Link/b833ffe9-a408-4f74-9ef7-4fbf563fd31c/


Its now come to the point where I am convinced developers do not see a future with windows mobile and do not see development for the platform as worth it. Yet we have plenty of high end devices such as Diamond, Omnia, HD etc.. I mean, look how Pandora is coming along... :mad:

So im willing to DONATE MONEY to anyone who can convert the xperia facebook panel into a stand alone facebook app for the rest of us. To those of you who also feel the need for a decent facebook app, please show your support here..

bedaweed
23rd November 2008, 09:55 PM
im pissed off too

i just go on skyfire or opera and go to iphone.facebook.com

domineus
23rd November 2008, 10:00 PM
im pissed off too

i just go on skyfire or opera and go to iphone.facebook.com

and it is so easy to do too :p

darthbane2k
23rd November 2008, 10:03 PM
and it is so easy to do too :p



no tidy inbox or alert system

no full screen images

no live chat

no ability to upload images/video
e
need I go on...

Why should Windows Mobile users settle on some second rate version missing key features

friguy33
23rd November 2008, 10:04 PM
It is one reasons id love a blackberry like the storm b/c of the "always on" facebook and the interface. I dont understand why people dont develop more for windows mobile. Its not like they dont push phones like the touch pro. The ones they have now look like they are from 1996 with the graphics.

fitdocsr
23rd November 2008, 10:16 PM
nm- I see its already been discussed

pistonripper
23rd November 2008, 10:19 PM
and it is so easy to do too :p

not the point

Add this app too http://igadgetlife.com/2008/06/30/bbc-iplayer-goes-mobile/

jug6ernaut
23rd November 2008, 10:26 PM
Xperia (sadly exclusive thanks to the 'panels' and sony ericssons efforts to fragment the windows mobile community)

http://wmpoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/facebookexperia11.jpg

http://pocketnow.com/html/portal/news/0000006275/NewsImage/facebook.jpg


Us..

http://on10.net/Link/b833ffe9-a408-4f74-9ef7-4fbf563fd31c/


Its now come to the point where I am convinced developers do not see a future with windows mobile and do not see development for the platform as worth it. Yet we have plenty of high end devices such as Diamond, Omnia, HD etc.. I mean, look how Pandora is coming along... :mad:

So im willing to DONATE MONEY to anyone who can convert the xperia facebook panel into a stand alone facebook app for the rest of us. To those of you who also feel the need for a decent facebook app, please show your support here..

you seem to have the Touch HD, so you are actually luckier than every1 else my friend.

http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6277

Panels on HD, pre amazed and i shall envy you

darthbane2k
23rd November 2008, 10:29 PM
you seem to have the Touch HD, so you are actually luckier than every1 else my friend.

http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6277

Panels on HD, pre amazed and i shall envy you

this is a very closed alpha/proof of concept and no one on the HD is benefiting yet , trust me.
Also I dont wish to use the overrated Xperia panel system on my phone, I just want an official facebook app that I and ALL OTHER Windows Mobile users no matter what device they have, can use.

Now the way I see it, the facebook panel on xperia is pretty much a windows mobile app, and as such should be able to run on any other windows mobile device (with at least VGA screen I suppose.. hence my reward, I cant do it myself, but im sure someone here can, there would be so many grateful WM users too

rafaelegomezb
24th November 2008, 08:29 AM
Hello.

I haven't Snap2face tried myself too much (just downloaded last night!) , and so far it seems to work fine. It's freeware. I'll keep on trying it, and I'd also like to hear from other users opinion.

orlandojumpoff
24th November 2008, 09:59 AM
if u have opera mobile go to iphone.facebook.com

fdrzrich
24th November 2008, 10:28 AM
if u have opera mobile go to iphone.facebook.com

After I log in on Opera mobile it takes me to the normal 'm.facebook' page?

Just tried Snap2Face or Skybook as its now called...seems pretty good for a standalone app. Probably not as polished as the other version though.

darthbane2k
24th November 2008, 11:00 AM
I'm sorry, but I do not consider 'snap2face' or 'skybook' a viable solution. Its slow, its buggy, it has a terrible,terrible layout (icons are often tiny on anything above a QVGA screen) and it makes a mess of its cache.

darthbane2k
24th November 2008, 11:01 AM
Can I ask the developers in here.. is there a REASON why the xperia facebook panel cannot be simply extracted and converted into a stand alone app?

pilgrim011
24th November 2008, 11:03 AM
What do you think about this:

Facebook on your mobile!

Introducing FriendMobilizer, a free application for Windows Smartphones and Pocket PC's that puts Facebook into the palm of your hand.

* Get notifications sent directly to your home screen
* Set your status
* Approve friend requests
* View Group/Event invites
* Check your wall and inbox
* Send your friends messages, pokes, and wall posts

http://faceofmobile.com/

darthbane2k
24th November 2008, 12:00 PM
What do you think about this:

Facebook on your mobile!

Introducing FriendMobilizer, a free application for Windows Smartphones and Pocket PC's that puts Facebook into the palm of your hand.

* Get notifications sent directly to your home screen
* Set your status
* Approve friend requests
* View Group/Event invites
* Check your wall and inbox
* Send your friends messages, pokes, and wall posts

http://faceofmobile.com/

looks awful

not touch friendly

cant display photo albums

cant upload photos

snachez
24th November 2008, 12:39 PM
Hahahaa. Facebook.

programatix
24th November 2008, 01:54 PM
As in your previous thread (started a few months back), everyone is trying to tell you that Windows Mobile devices have more advanced features (of course, no Facebook). So if the only thing you are concerned of is Facebook, well... you could always get an iPhone.

Oh, by the way, then you'll be complaining about unable to send MMS, forward SMS, copy text in SMS, and ect... oh well... you're going to bombard me next.

PS: If I'm a developer, the moment I read your first post in this thread, I'll just ignore you. Maybe you should rephrase your sentences so that people (including developers) feel the need of Facebook application. This way, maybe someone out there would offer his/her help.

darthbane2k
24th November 2008, 02:00 PM
As in your previous thread (started a few months back), everyone is trying to tell you that Windows Mobile devices have more advanced features (of course, no Facebook). So if the only thing you are concerned of is Facebook, well... you could always get an iPhone.

Oh, by the way, then you'll be complaining about unable to send MMS, forward SMS, copy text in SMS, and ect... oh well... you're going to bombard me next.

No you miss my point. The difference is that we DO have a WM version now.. the xperia facebook panel. No iphone required. I am urging devs on here to merely find a way to convert that panel into a standalone app for all WM users to enjoy.

programatix
24th November 2008, 02:03 PM
No you miss my point. The difference is that we DO have a WM version now.. the xperia facebook panel. No iphone required. I am urging devs on here to merely find a way to convert that panel into a standalone app for all WM users to enjoy.

But the way you're urging devs (the way you write your sentences) made potential helper ignore you. As for my self, this is my last post in this thread as I'm going to ignore it. :(

pilgrim011
24th November 2008, 02:04 PM
My opinion is that Facebook is for kids. Windows Mobile OS is much better than iPhone, Symbian, BlackBerry, Android when it comes to serious applications.:cool:

Loco5150
24th November 2008, 02:08 PM
Hahahaa. Facebook.

Hahaha times 2...

MACkjam
24th November 2008, 02:13 PM
Facebook is for little girls to play with.

goldengraham
24th November 2008, 02:14 PM
Facebook is for little girls to play with.

Facebook is (in my opinion) a program developed by women to keep track of their less than faithful men.

darthbane2k
24th November 2008, 02:33 PM
im not gonna fight folks, obviously this app would be more useful to some than to others.

I dont believe its a case of business device vs novelty device either, or Blackberry wouldnt have its own version..

CraZyLiLbOy
24th November 2008, 02:49 PM
im not gonna fight folks, obviously this app would be more useful to some than to others.

I dont believe its a case of business device vs novelty device either, or Blackberry wouldnt have its own version..

unbelievable..it seems to me that these comments are written from a 10 years-old. If you don't like facebook then why are you even here? maybe they didnt have any friends to start with..it's too bad because they still have the mentality of a child. Kids have a long way to go yet they seem not to grow up

spupuz
24th November 2008, 03:05 PM
look for snape2face

thisperishedmin
24th November 2008, 03:13 PM
I am inclined to agree that an application like this would be fantastic. What upsets me about winmo (beyond the painful lag from time to time...it blows my mind how touchflo 3d can run smoother than the winmo calendar app..but nonetheless it does.) is that there are no nice apps. I miss my iPhone for the handy facebook app, football scores app, etc. Granted, the hardware on that thing was junk - and I'm so happy to be back to HTC Where I actually get service and 3g reliably.

However, I do wish windows mobile made it simpler to create these kindso f things. I would dive headfirst into coding if the SDK for winmo was half as friendly as iPhone/Android.

All that said, I will look into snape2face as mentioned multiple times - hopefully this fills the void...

bombzhome
24th November 2008, 03:27 PM
look for snape2face

I have never been able to get this application to work. It always crashes everytime I log in.

Paul_Days
24th November 2008, 03:28 PM
Not gonna bash or rave, but Facebook for some might be silly, but for me, who lives from country to country since young, has allowed my to stay in contact with let's say, really old highschool and college friends, etc. Kinda sucks sometimes that most people today, their friends are ones they've had since those times....

Nonetheless, I don't use it on a day to day basis, heck, see my signature, I have the Blackberry Messenger for that. BUT, there is one fact: there are MANY apps which do require a little more attention.

Those who know me here, developer-wise, I'll also donate.

Paul

GriFolle
24th November 2008, 03:35 PM
Believe me:
I suffered by the same crashes in previous versions, but with the last one of Snap2Face is awesome...no crashes at all, no lacks, maybe just the interface could be emproved but its usability is pretty perfect now...

Let's try!

PS: here is a Diamond user.

jonteponte
24th November 2008, 04:12 PM
My opinion is that Facebook is for kids. Windows Mobile OS is much better than iPhone, Symbian, BlackBerry, Android when it comes to serious applications.:cool:

i totally agree, Why use Facebook - i wonder how many of Facebooks users actually know what they have agreed to when using their software.... Facebook is a perfect example of flies drawn to shit.

jadephyre
24th November 2008, 04:44 PM
why do you need facebook so badly ?
and why do people register themselves on some bullcrap site like myspace and some such nonsense ???

Grow up, get a life !

Caramel
24th November 2008, 05:42 PM
My opinion is that Facebook is for kids. Windows Mobile OS is much better than iPhone, Symbian, BlackBerry, Android when it comes to serious applications.:cool:

I agree, but why developping app like "beer" or "light saber" ? It's for kids too !!!

My brother have an iPhone and seriously i'm jealousing the team of developpers !!! They are more intuitives than wm devellopers who make only fade copy of the applications allready develloped ... (It's in my plans to buy an iPhone lol :D )

Instead of copying stupidly the iPhone and Android App, why the cream of our devellopers don't orientate their "savoir" to the new and the "innatendu" ( not waiting !) as we said in france, couper l'herbe sous les pieds, for that, i think the devellopers team need to be at the earing of the requests ...

You're going to say to me you're not a develloper, yes i'm not and i don't hide it ... But i test many and many app of this forum, and a little are really usefull, like gsen, klaxon or S2U2, others, excuse me for my frankness, but they're not really usefull at my eyes ... Funny but not serious ...

Who said, imagine S2Face ? Nothing is impossible !!!

Ball in your camp ...

Sorry for my english ... ( Edit )

TrYde
24th November 2008, 05:51 PM
I use desktop version of facebook on Opera mobile, it works great. I mean, WM is not iphone, we shouldn't need pocket version of websites while we get full internet thanks to Opera.

The missing feature is, in my opinion, the chat client.

bornotty
24th November 2008, 06:08 PM
I agree, but why developping app like "beer" or "light saber" ? It's for kids too !!!

My brother have an iPhone and seriously i'm jealousing the team of developpers !!! They are more intuitives than wm devellopers who make only fade copy of the applications allready develloped ... (It's in my plans to buy an iPhone lol :D )

Instead of copying stupidly the iPhone and Android App, why the cream of our devellopers don't orientate their "savoir" to the new and the "innatendu" ( not waiting !) as we said in france, couper l'herbe sous les pieds, for that, i think the devellopers team need to be at the earing of the requests ...

You're going to say to me you're not a develloper, yes i'm not and i don't hide it ... But i test many and many app of this forum, and a little are really usefull, like gsen, klaxon or S2U2, others, excuse me for my frankness, but they're not really usefull at my eyes ... Funny but not serious ...

Who said, imagine S2Face ? Nothing is impossible !!!

Ball in your camp ...

Sorry for my english ... ( Edit )

app like g-sensors 'beer' and light saber.. are not developed for kids.. these are to test the limit of the WM device.

and its not copying iphone and android.. noh noh.. its again the limit of WM devices.. it proves can bring all in one wm device(sometimes better than the original).. so that you dont have to switch devices.. after every new release.. for an example: A WM device can be fully converted in an iPhone(visually UI) and look at the lame diamond skin for the iphone.. full of big black buttons..

Im dont wanna start an iphone and wm devices debate again..and others please dont..

itje
24th November 2008, 06:16 PM
I was gonna build a release of panels (incl facebook) but not because of this thread.

I agree, this is not a way to request a application

And dont say ppl dont work/develop apps for winmo, if you belive so you gotta wake up :D

Caramel
24th November 2008, 06:28 PM
I dont want debate for a device or an other, just put the focus on the abbility of a team to devellop many applications really usefull for a majority and a team who devellop only placebo or only UI themes ...

Who is the professionnal in all that ?

You think seriously develloping many and many themes, or porting themes from HD to VGA is the best way to know if a device have the capabilities to do all of we need ?

I think no ...

conflipper
24th November 2008, 06:34 PM
Social Networking App From the Touch HD Rom. It will allow photo uploads to Facebook. However right now it is not working. If some developers would take a look at it, i am sure we could get that working at least. It would be nice to be able to upload to there. from right inside your photo album.

ramontrotman
24th November 2008, 06:54 PM
this man's rant is valid. Why are people asking why he needs facebook? What does it matter to you? there's 14 million people currently signed up for facebook. Lets just say its 14 million vs. the 10 people in this thread who seems to find facebook silly. So cut the madness out. if you can't contribute something worth while to the thread then don't post.



speaking of snap2face....the update is nice. the inerface still needs a little more work. but its as good as we've got right now....try it one more time. let me know if you still feel the same way.

http://www.magnifoca.com/download_snap2face.html

the only issue i have with it now is the fact that i cannot comment on pics. but other than that..its doing the job.

l3v5y
24th November 2008, 07:14 PM
Can I ask the developers in here.. is there a REASON why the xperia facebook panel cannot be simply extracted and converted into a stand alone app?
Umm... Yes.

Unless you can port panels, you can't port the facebook panel.

diar
24th November 2008, 07:15 PM
i use skybook. it's a decent app, but it would be better to have a dedicated facebook app.

from a developer's standpoint, i imagine it is much easier to create an app for the iphone because these is only one iphone or for blackberry. but there are dozens if not hundreds of winmo devices and, as we know, creating an app that works perfectly across all the different types of handsets is a challenge. obviously companies like resco, spb, etc. do it so it can be done, but i'm sure that providing support for every little quirk a user might experience is discouraging the facebook folks.

Keland44
24th November 2008, 07:42 PM
yea it would be nice to get an facebook app just for windows mobile but the above poster is right ther are 100's of windows mobile devices out on the market compared to only two iphone version and probably bout 15-20 different kinds of blackberries
makin an app that works on all the different types of windows mobile would be tough but highly liked if certain features were work snap2face/skybook is a decent app for the most part unless your planning to stay on facebook all the time which seems like you want the messanger features which i believe is going to be pretty nice once it can be used outside of facebook

orlandojumpoff
24th November 2008, 11:32 PM
After I log in on Opera mobile it takes me to the normal 'm.facebook' page?

Just tried Snap2Face or Skybook as its now called...seems pretty good for a standalone app. Probably not as polished as the other version though.

are you sure.. they look similar, but the iphone one is different.. bigger letters and different layout.. iphone one shows more wall feeds is what i noticed right off the bat. havent played around with it too much yet though

here's where i learned about it http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=521518&postcount=8

edit: yeah just played with it and you'd notice the difference... it has tabs within general tabs like on the real facebook pages.. it has tabs for home/profile/friends/inbox.. under profile it has tabs for your info/wall/photos...
i think it's a little buggy though
oh and im using a touch diamond with the stock opera mobile

nuke1
24th November 2008, 11:49 PM
This'll sound harsh, but I mean, we can't always cater for square-screen devices now, can we?

:D Kidding.

richabi
25th November 2008, 12:56 AM
No you miss my point. The difference is that we DO have a WM version now.. the xperia facebook panel. No iphone required. I am urging devs on here to merely find a way to convert that panel into a standalone app for all WM users to enjoy.


one reason why Devs haven't extracted Xperia facebook or what have you is because the screen resolution (240x400) of that phone is awkward. WM phones come in all shapes and sizes. If they were to cater to the general public, they would first have to resize for the most popular phones using QVGA (the most used reso now). Then they would have to resize for VGA and possibly WVGA if in demand. quite a bit of work and dedication to solve such a minute issue. feel me?

I remember when SJ tried to extract the widget/today junk from xperia to use on the Kaiser. it took FOREVER and it was still incomplete and not really useful for daily use. Then M2D came out and he just put widget on the back burner.

sooner or later I am sure another WM phon (with a more compatiable reso) will come with some FB app and everyone will be happy. yay.

gofawkurself
25th November 2008, 01:07 AM
I remember when SJ tried to extract the widget/today junk from xperia to use on the Kaiser. it took FOREVER and it was still incomplete and not really useful for daily use. Then M2D came out and he just put widget on the back burner.

sooner or later I am sure another WM phon (with a more compatiable reso) will come with some FB app and everyone will be happy. yay.


So true...

WizardN00b
25th November 2008, 01:31 AM
I would concur that a dedicated facebook app is sorely needed, however iphone.facebook.com looks good on Skyfire.

Iceman692
25th November 2008, 06:57 AM
I would also like to see a facebook client. However, when I used the mobile version of facebook I was impressed (probably because I compared it to myspace's mobile site). In my opinion, myspace needs a program just as much as facebook.

The development for "idiot-friendly" devices and not WM devices is madening.

shadowline
25th November 2008, 07:01 AM
I would concur that a dedicated facebook app is sorely needed, however iphone.facebook.com looks good on Skyfire.

It really does, I didn't think to try it until reading this thread, but it makes it soo much easier. And if it redirects you to mobile facebook instead after logging in, just go back to iphone.facebook.com and it will go to that. Though a dedicated application would be soo much better, faster, and feature packed than that ever will be.

klmsu19
25th November 2008, 07:41 AM
this man's rant is valid. Why are people asking why he needs facebook? What does it matter to you? there's 14 million people currently signed up for facebook. Lets just say its 14 million vs. the 10 people in this thread who seems to find facebook silly. So cut the madness out. if you can't contribute something worth while to the thread then don't post.



speaking of snap2face....the update is nice. the inerface still needs a little more work. but its as good as we've got right now....try it one more time. let me know if you still feel the same way.

http://www.magnifoca.com/download_snap2face.html

the only issue i have with it now is the fact that i cannot comment on pics. but other than that..its doing the job.

Agreed. I find it disheartening too when i see iphone this and blackberry that but nothing mainstream for WM. Myspace does it, facebook does it, hell websites cater to iphone format. No one bends for WM, and it IS bothersome. Sure there are developers, but its not the same as the current BB/iphone trend where everyone wants to develop for those 2 platforms, and up and coming Android. WM has really taken a back seat as an OS.

And anyone who thinks its stupid then just STFU (shut the you know what up) and leave the thread and dont waste space for people who want to get it done. Anyone who wastes thread space from now on saying how dumb facebook is will simply be reported to the mods and let them deal with you. This is NOT a debate about social networking sites, it IS to get an application. Snap2face/Skybook whatever they call it now is simply not cutting it as a good application compared to what is developed for other platforms.

FloatingFatMan
25th November 2008, 09:29 AM
The development for "idiot-friendly" devices and not WM devices is madening.

Maddening? Yes. But unfortunately, it's the way the mobile market is going. Look at how popular things like Manilla 2D and similar launchers are on our WM devices. These are also "idiot friendly" apps. Everyone wants them, because they're "cool" and "neat" and "look good".

I tell you now, WM is going to HAVE to become more "idiot friendly" if it's to survive as anything other than a niche market. Devices are going to have to start to standardise resolutions and display hardware for a start, as that just holds things back; and Microsoft are going to have to pull their fingers out with WM7. It's completely stupid that a program written for WM works perfectly fine on one device, but has problems on others, and this is caused entirely by the disparity in hardware and OS functionality.

If things were the same in desktop Windows, Microsoft would have gone bankrupt years ago.

ramontrotman
25th November 2008, 02:38 PM
Maddening? Yes. But unfortunately, it's the way the mobile market is going. Look at how popular things like Manilla 2D and similar launchers are on our WM devices. These are also "idiot friendly" apps. Everyone wants them, because they're "cool" and "neat" and "look good".

I tell you now, WM is going to HAVE to become more "idiot friendly" if it's to survive as anything other than a niche market. Devices are going to have to start to standardise resolutions and display hardware for a start, as that just holds things back; and Microsoft are going to have to pull their fingers out with WM7. It's completely stupid that a program written for WM works perfectly fine on one device, but has problems on others, and this is caused entirely by the disparity in hardware and OS functionality.

If things were the same in desktop Windows, Microsoft would have gone bankrupt years ago.


some of this apple was able to cut out. you bottle neck anything developed for the device and make it all mono tone. it pains me to say this, but i'd prefer things the way they are now.

we're between a rock and a hard place when dealing with microsoft. remember, they dont make hardware...so when they push out the os, the OEM's then get their hands on it. they do what they will, then push it to the carriers. And what happens next? ask sprint with their touch pro. they screw it up...and windows mobile gets a bad wrap. but how do you stop that? how can you stop that?

im sure these are the woes microsoft deals with on a daily basis. lets wait and see what happens in wm7. if you've been following microsoft like i do....you'd have the world of faith right now. with zune updates...xbox live updates...and an unbreakable windows 7 pre alpha??? the future is looking good.

but back to facebook ;)

the iphone.facebook.com does work for casual viewing. but if you want to upload images...you're back to square one. :(

flashmp3
25th November 2008, 02:41 PM
I have tested iphone.facebook.com with Opera and i must admit it's great.

But :

- Can't see notifications (for example comments on picture)
- Can't answer to a status
- When I try to see a picture, i get a black square with a little party of the picture on the right. When i save it the .jpg file is ok. Do anyone have this issue ? it is to bad

bombzhome
25th November 2008, 03:01 PM
I just deleted my cache from Snap2Face and I reinstalled it, and it's working now. The only thing I would like to see is FaceBook alerts - having your FaceBook stuff pushed to your phone. My friends with BlackBerries respond to things so fast because they get notified instantly.

ramontrotman
25th November 2008, 03:02 PM
I have tested iphone.facebook.com with Opera and i must admit it's great.

But :

- Can't see notifications (for example comments on picture)
- Can't answer to a status
- When I try to see a picture, i get a black square with a little party of the picture on the right. When i save it the .jpg file is ok. Do anyone have this issue ? it is to bad

heres a lil tip for ya....try it on the iris browser. i love the iris browser...but it keeps freezing on my fuze :(

but if you're ever trying to get a site thats optimized for the iphone...use iris.

pistonripper
25th November 2008, 05:30 PM
Maddening? Yes. But unfortunately, it's the way the mobile market is going. Look at how popular things like Manilla 2D and similar launchers are on our WM devices. These are also "idiot friendly" apps. Everyone wants them, because they're "cool" and "neat" and "look good".

I tell you now, WM is going to HAVE to become more "idiot friendly" if it's to survive as anything other than a niche market. Devices are going to have to start to standardise resolutions and display hardware for a start, as that just holds things back; and Microsoft are going to have to pull their fingers out with WM7. It's completely stupid that a program written for WM works perfectly fine on one device, but has problems on others, and this is caused entirely by the disparity in hardware and OS functionality.

If things were the same in desktop Windows, Microsoft would have gone bankrupt years ago.

WM is the only platform to cater for all......I wouldn't call them 'idiot interfaces'.....standard 6.1 interface/homescreen isn't exactly the most welcoming interface:D

mbritten
25th November 2008, 08:51 PM
I know its not what you all are looking for, but if you download palringo (wwww.palringo.com) install it then go into the registry
goto:
hkcu\software\palringo\settings
look for : beta/facebook
change it from 0 to 1

now you can use palringo with facebook chat

Keland44
25th November 2008, 09:03 PM
interesting this is for actual facebook chat or just the facebook plugin?

ledridge
25th November 2008, 09:33 PM
you guys don't see it at all. It has nothing to do do with which phone is better or can do more...

You have to look at it from the developers viewpoint. and by developer, I don't mean one-off devs or hackers. software houses put their effort where it will make the most money. If I came out with the same app for winmo, it would be all over the web and I wouldn't get a penny, but iPhone and Blackberry sheep will buy it. I dont know if the cracking community is smaller or less skilled for other platforms but it makes them more valuable to the developers.

airjer
25th November 2008, 10:26 PM
Hahahaa. Facebook.

Quoted for emphasis.

khristopher13
25th November 2008, 11:25 PM
- When I try to see a picture, i get a black square with a little party of the picture on the right. When i save it the .jpg file is ok. Do anyone have this issue ? it is to bad

It took me a while to understand the black square myself. Here's the deal, tha black square is related to the "tagged" area of the photo. It is the area of the photo that tells you who is in the photo when you mouse over it on a desktop browser. Opera mini has the problem rendering the photo correctly when it is tagged regardless of whether you are browsing the full version of facebook or the iPhone version. I know this didn't fix the problem, but at least now you'll know why its that way.

jbh00jh
26th November 2008, 12:58 AM
Facebook app - get a life !

flashmp3
26th November 2008, 09:28 AM
It took me a while to understand the black square myself. Here's the deal, tha black square is related to the "tagged" area of the photo. It is the area of the photo that tells you who is in the photo when you mouse over it on a desktop browser. Opera mini has the problem rendering the photo correctly when it is tagged regardless of whether you are browsing the full version of facebook or the iPhone version. I know this didn't fix the problem, but at least now you'll know why its that way.

Thanks for explaination :)

methosmacleod
26th November 2008, 03:33 PM
why do you need facebook so badly ?
and why do people register themselves on some bullcrap site like myspace and some such nonsense ???

Grow up, get a life !

Coming from the person posting to a message board...:rolleyes:
Anyone on this site, disparaging facebook or social networking, but asking for/requesting apps that do anything besides something productive are guilty of some serious hypocrisy and are frankly losers and trolls.. If you have no friends and/or don't like/use facebook, simply leave the thread. It really is that simple.

CraZyLiLbOy
26th November 2008, 03:42 PM
Facebook app - get a life !

Stop posting useless comments. As you already can see, we are not asking for opinions

DilbertZG
26th November 2008, 04:04 PM
I'm using Facebook.
But I don't need any Facebook native app... m.facebook.com is enough. :)
So, what now? ;)

I would like to see more useful apps, for stock market monitor, for mutual funds monitor (those apps exist, but not for all stock market, for example, I can't use Zagreb Stock Exchange with those apps). More, I would like to see better apps for bluetooth remote controller, for example. Or native apps for use personal banking system (i have Java app for that, but not working very well on Diamond)...

Who cares about Facebook on WM phones? Only teenagers. :P

methosmacleod
26th November 2008, 04:58 PM
I'm using Facebook.
But I don't need any Facebook native app... m.facebook.com is enough. :)
So, what now? ;)

I would like to see more useful apps, for stock market monitor, for mutual funds monitor (those apps exist, but not for all stock market, for example, I can't use Zagreb Stock Exchange with those apps). More, I would like to see better apps for bluetooth remote controller, for example. Or native apps for use personal banking system (i have Java app for that, but not working very well on Diamond)...

Who cares about Facebook on WM phones? Only teenagers. :P

So you use facebook. and you use m.facebook.com, but if someone wants a facebook app that makes them a teenager and therefore subject to your ridicule? So what does that make you?

what if there are actual teenagers on this site requesting that app, does that make them the subject of your petty ridicule?

I thought this was a mature site....

ajbopp
26th November 2008, 05:06 PM
Can I just say that I'm nearly 50 years old and I find Facebook to be one of the most massively useful sites on the net today? Yes there's a lot of ways to waste time, but there's a lot ways to waste time on a smartphone too (jump like Mario, anyone?) That doesn't make the smartphone useless or immature, just flexible and powerful. Facebook is the same.

Caramel
26th November 2008, 05:29 PM
Can I just say that I'm nearly 50 years old and I find Facebook to be one of the most massively useful sites on the net today? Yes there's a lot of ways to waste time, but there's a lot ways to waste time on a smartphone too (jump like Mario, anyone?) That doesn't make the smartphone useless or immature, just flexible and powerful. Facebook is the same.

CQFD ( Ce qu'il fallait dire, in french, what it was necessary to say, orange translator :D )

Keland44
26th November 2008, 06:50 PM
Can I just say that I'm nearly 50 years old and I find Facebook to be one of the most massively useful sites on the net today? Yes there's a lot of ways to waste time, but there's a lot ways to waste time on a smartphone too (jump like Mario, anyone?) That doesn't make the smartphone useless or immature, just flexible and powerful. Facebook is the same.

i agree facebook is a very useful site yes there are ways to waste tons of time on there but it can also be used to reconnect with old friends stay up to date with current friends and meet new ones
i mean i see facebook as the ultimate social networking site because it appeals to every one in one aspect or another there isn't a person on the internet that could say that they wouldn't have at least a friend on facebook
not to mention another way of keeping in contact with family especially if you live in other countries and just want to drop a wall post to say hi

DilbertZG
26th November 2008, 08:57 PM
So you use facebook. and you use m.facebook.com, but if someone wants a facebook app that makes them a teenager and therefore subject to your ridicule? So what does that make you?

what if there are actual teenagers on this site requesting that app, does that make them the subject of your petty ridicule?

I thought this was a mature site....

Why you need Facebook app so badly? Why m.facebook.com or simply www.facebook.com via Opera on WinMObile can't satisfy you? What you can get with Facebook app, and can't get with facebook.com site, without native app?
If you need it so badly, take a book, learn how to make Windows Mobile application and create one for you. Obviously, developers are not interested in FB applications because there is a good alternatives to FB app, and you can use that alternatives.

You want to stay in contact with your friend? Use e-mail. Use sms message. Use phone call, why you save money on your friends? If they meant to you so much, call them! Human voice is much better than text on computer/mobile phone monitor.
You can use Skype. VOIP technology. There is many way to stay in contact. But no, all you want is Facebook. Blah.

MongarEric
26th November 2008, 09:46 PM
I think the reason people want a facebook app so badly is so they can get instant notification of things, access to photo uploading, and use of the chat feature. I can handle using m.facebook.com myself, but I could see why people would want an application that is on par with that available for iphone. I'm not so sure the tone of this thread is the best way to ask for it, but I think the anger is directed at the fact that iphone and blackberry have awesome facebook apps while windows mobile doesn't.

Admatchestrator
26th November 2008, 09:56 PM
give this a try

ramontrotman
26th November 2008, 10:00 PM
so i guess you guys think im playing. the next person to post a useless comment that has nothing to offer this thread, will be banned. who got next?

cjaramillo
26th November 2008, 10:17 PM
m.facebook.com is enough for my, mmm a app is great too
but with SkyFire you have all Facebook (no confort but... xD)

look that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jKyQNXwDT0

sorry my english! :S xD

neilson
26th November 2008, 10:39 PM
m.facebook.com is enough for my, mmm a app is great too
but with SkyFire you have all Facebook (no confort but... xD)

look that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jKyQNXwDT0

sorry my english! :S xD
iPhones can use Facebook Chat. Windows Mobile can't. That's not right.

l3v5y
26th November 2008, 11:17 PM
iPhones can use Facebook Chat. Windows Mobile can't. That's not right.
As far as I can remember, the iPhone uses a webapp to go on facebook. Since it's on the web, you can get it in virtually any browser.

One reason that I personally haven't tried to create a facebook app (I may not be the best developer, but I tried on this one!) is that the SDK itself is a pain!

darthbane2k
27th November 2008, 12:56 AM
Once again - Im not a developer, but I do feel the solution to this is to somehow hack the xperia facebook panel. Im not talking about running the panels front end on a WM device, im talking about converting that individual facebook panel into a stand alone app. I mean, Xperia runs on wm 6.1, so should it not be relatively simple (pardon me if I am being ignorant).

As much as I appreciate the efforts of Snap2face/skybook - I cant use that as an alternative. Icons that appear tiny and arent touch friendly, a poorly managed cache, missing features, ugly UI... not good enough. WM is capable of so much more.

bedaweed
27th November 2008, 02:03 AM
is there like a guide on how to create an app
i downloaded visual studio and want to fool around but don't know where to start.

methosmacleod
27th November 2008, 03:04 AM
Why you need Facebook app so badly? Why m.facebook.com or simply www.facebook.com via Opera on WinMObile can't satisfy you? What you can get with Facebook app, and can't get with facebook.com site, without native app?
If you need it so badly, take a book, learn how to make Windows Mobile application and create one for you. Obviously, developers are not interested in FB applications because there is a good alternatives to FB app, and you can use that alternatives.

You want to stay in contact with your friend? Use e-mail. Use sms message. Use phone call, why you save money on your friends? If they meant to you so much, call them! Human voice is much better than text on computer/mobile phone monitor.
You can use Skype. VOIP technology. There is many way to stay in contact. But no, all you want is Facebook. Blah.

This has to be the stupidest, most childish post ever!:D
It upsets you that there are people out there who actualy have friends all over the world and wish to communicate on the fly without starting a web browser and typing in a password? This concept offends you that much huh?

Why are you on this board? why are you installing different apps on your device? Please don't ask stupid questions.

CraZyLiLbOy
27th November 2008, 03:25 AM
Why you need Facebook app so badly? Why m.facebook.com or simply www.facebook.com via Opera on WinMObile can't satisfy you? What you can get with Facebook app, and can't get with facebook.com site, without native app?
If you need it so badly, take a book, learn how to make Windows Mobile application and create one for you. Obviously, developers are not interested in FB applications because there is a good alternatives to FB app, and you can use that alternatives.

You want to stay in contact with your friend? Use e-mail. Use sms message. Use phone call, why you save money on your friends? If they meant to you so much, call them! Human voice is much better than text on computer/mobile phone monitor.
You can use Skype. VOIP technology. There is many way to stay in contact. But no, all you want is Facebook. Blah.

LMAO

no comments...

hellz
27th November 2008, 03:33 AM
Ebuddy also has Facebook chat for it now, as does Yeigo.
http://get.ebuddy.com is the link for the ebuddy java client.

I don't have the Yeigo link, nor would I really suggest it. Too buggy and the layout is horrible.

I'm going to try Palringo and see how that works.

From what the devs have said in their news blog, they're going to be releasing chat for Jabber clients. This means IM+ and other clients will be able to use it. (This is what I'm patiently waiting for.)

The link explains more:
http://developers.facebook.com/news.php?blog=1&story=110

DilbertZG
27th November 2008, 09:23 AM
This has to be the stupidest, most childish post ever!:D
It upsets you that there are people out there who actualy have friends all over the world and wish to communicate on the fly without starting a web browser and typing in a password? This concept offends you that much huh?

Why are you on this board? why are you installing different apps on your device? Please don't ask stupid questions.

:)

Childish? It seems you're child. That's explain your reaction.
Some sociologists and psychologist says that people who are willing to share alll their pictures with everybody, who wants to know "all and now" about what are their friends do right now, and so on, have big problems inside... the only thing they said is: me! me! me! look at me! look how i'm beautiful! look, i have very good time right now!

C'mon... nobody really cares, except your family or few really closes people around you. You really think that you have "165" (for example) best friends? Grow up!

As I said? You want to stay in contact? E-mail is better. Phone call is much better to say "hello" than Facebook wall.

LvDisturbed1
27th November 2008, 10:06 AM
:)

Childish? It seems you're child. That's explain your reaction.
Some sociologists and psychologist says that people who are willing to share alll their pictures with everybody, who wants to know "all and now" about what are their friends do right now, and so on, have big problems inside... the only thing they said is: me! me! me! look at me! look how i'm beautiful! look, i have very good time right now!

C'mon... nobody really cares, except your family or few really closes people around you. You really think that you have "165" (for example) best friends? Grow up!

As I said? You want to stay in contact? E-mail is better. Phone call is much better to say "hello" than Facebook wall.
You say it like its a fact, when in actuality its your opinion. Many people enjoy using social networks like Facebook or Myspace because of its ease of use and versatility. Besides, if you think nobody really cares, why does it bother you so much?

DilbertZG
27th November 2008, 10:22 AM
You say it like its a fact, when in actuality its your opinion. Many people enjoy using social networks like Facebook or Myspace because of its ease of use and versatility. Besides, if you think nobody really cares, why does it bother you so much?

Thing that bother me is that screaming and angry because of no quality Facebook application.
And one more thing... I don't really understand why someone wants to constantly views (or creeply) at others profile? That's scared me. Stalkers?
And I don't understand that attention - seeking or wanted to be liked/viewed.
I like when I have some little intimacy and privacy. And anonymity.

Obviously, developers are not interested to make it. Why, I don't know. Maybe they think there is good alternatives (m.facebook.com, or simply www.facebook.com via mobile phone), maybe they think that developing FB app is not worth their time and knowledge... maybe they don't use FB? I don't know, and I don't care. I'm using FB too, but I'm checking it, guess what, via e-mail. If on my e-mail I found something on FB happened, which is worth to see it in details, i go to log-on.

There are lot of other things for developing, why vaste time on FB? You realli want it? Learn FB SDK and create FB app for yourself. You can learn something, you can become popular, you can earn some money. ;)

TheChampJT
27th November 2008, 10:25 AM
HAHAHA! This topic makes me laugh! If it's not avail you have two options, get over it, or fix it yourself, like creating your own app. YES! This is my personal opinion, that's how I feel and that's how we shall leave it. But, going back and forth about it seems a bit stupid don't think?

All the problems in the world, and we see "why no FB app :(? I'm so angry :mad:!"

sub69
27th November 2008, 10:36 AM
There wasn't a dedicated YouTube app until the Diamond came along. There will probably be a dedicated FaceBook app in the future when there's more demand. Just calm down and make do with SkyBook/SkyFire/m.facebook.com for now.

And poking fun at the entire social networking community in a "Development and Hacking" thread in a relatively small PDA forum says a lot more about the critic than it ever will about Facebook users...

FloatingFatMan
27th November 2008, 10:54 AM
Thing that bother me is that screaming and angry because of no quality Facebook application.


I think there's a deeper meaning behind the OP's demand for a FB application, and he DOES mention it in his original post. It's that he sees professional developers are starting to move away from the WM devices in favour of things like the iPhone and Android, and he DOES have a valid point. The lack of any official Facebook application can be seen as a symptom of that.

Let's face it, FB is massively popular among millions of people, and they want to access it whilst on the move. WM has been around far longer than the iPhone or Android, and yet these newcomers get an official FB application whilst the "old boy" still hasn't? What does that tell you?

Of course, with HTC's latest WM devices getting more user friendly with their new front ends, we MIGHT see that change... The X1 *does* have an official FB app for a start, so maybe it'll get done for other WM devices too; but still, the point remains. iPhone and Android DO seem to be getting more attention from the "big boy" developers lately.

or8it
27th November 2008, 11:08 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7748372.stm

I've posted the link above as a reason I think WM really needs a Facebook app. If WM phone makers and Microsoft don't want to be left behind in the mobile internet market apps like this should be developed.

flykthewiz
27th November 2008, 11:14 AM
I think there's a deeper meaning behind the OP's demand for a FB application, and he DOES mention it in his original post. It's that he sees professional developers are starting to move away from the WM devices in favour of things like the iPhone and Android, and he DOES have a valid point. The lack of any official Facebook application can be seen as a symptom of that.

Let's face it, FB is massively popular among millions of people, and they want to access it whilst on the move. WM has been around far longer than the iPhone or Android, and yet these newcomers get an official FB application whilst the "old boy" still hasn't? What does that tell you?

Of course, with HTC's latest WM devices getting more user friendly with their new front ends, we MIGHT see that change... The X1 *does* have an official FB app for a start, so maybe it'll get done for other WM devices too; but still, the point remains. iPhone and Android DO seem to be getting more attention from the "big boy" developers lately.

At last a voice of sanity in this thread. I am a dedicated WM user and have been for many years but sadly I seriously considering moving.

The underlying Windows Mobile interface has change little of the years and is still clumsy and stylus based so for anybody to write a "nice" app they have to code everthing, buttons, dialog boxes etc. This leads to each app having different look and feel and the user community complains so what do developers do...

They go to the platforms where it is easy to develop and people in the main don't complain. (iphone and android - although I still have my doubts about andriod!)

Much as I hate to say it, apple have got it right. You never see a mac application that doesn't look like it was written for mac (can the same be said about windows!!!) Until Microsoft do something to change the WM interface fundementally, things will stay the same (despite the efforts of HTC, Samsung, Sony et al) We just have to accept that.

ramontrotman
27th November 2008, 07:31 PM
HAHAHA! This topic makes me laugh! If it's not avail you have two options, get over it, or fix it yourself, like creating your own app. YES! This is my personal opinion, that's how I feel and that's how we shall leave it. But, going back and forth about it seems a bit stupid don't think?

All the problems in the world, and we see "why no FB app :(? I'm so angry :mad:!"

dear sir, i asked the people stay clear of posting non productive things in this thread. this is clearly a thread for fans of facebook. if you are not then stay clear of this thread. i am not banning you because of your positive involvement in the community.

you try it again and you'll be quite upset at the result. again people...if you have nothing to offer do not post!

klmsu19
27th November 2008, 07:36 PM
:)

Childish? It seems you're child. That's explain your reaction.
Some sociologists and psychologist says that people who are willing to share alll their pictures with everybody, who wants to know "all and now" about what are their friends do right now, and so on, have big problems inside... the only thing they said is: me! me! me! look at me! look how i'm beautiful! look, i have very good time right now!

C'mon... nobody really cares, except your family or few really closes people around you. You really think that you have "165" (for example) best friends? Grow up!

As I said? You want to stay in contact? E-mail is better. Phone call is much better to say "hello" than Facebook wall.

didnt catch the mods warning or do we need to put it in your native language if you cant understand English? You dont like Facebook or care to help, LEAVE
so i guess you guys think im playing. the next person to post a useless comment that has nothing to offer this thread, will be banned. who got next?

ramontrotman
27th November 2008, 10:02 PM
give this a try....


http://blog.nimbuzz.com/2008/11/20/chat-with-your-friends-from-facebook-and-myspace-on-the-go-with-nimbuzz-mobile/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=Campaign+Monitor&utm_content=489632095&utm_campaign=Nimbuzz+latest+updates+%E2%80%93+iPho ne+is+now+supported&utm_term=Chat+with+your+friends+from+Facebook+and+ MySpace+on+the+go+with+Nimbuzz+Mobile!

it only does the chat though.

l3v5y
27th November 2008, 10:53 PM
Once again - Im not a developer, but I do feel the solution to this is to somehow hack the xperia facebook panel. Im not talking about running the panels front end on a WM device, im talking about converting that individual facebook panel into a stand alone app. I mean, Xperia runs on wm 6.1, so should it not be relatively simple (pardon me if I am being ignorant).

As much as I appreciate the efforts of Snap2face/skybook - I cant use that as an alternative. Icons that appear tiny and arent touch friendly, a poorly managed cache, missing features, ugly UI... not good enough. WM is capable of so much more.
The Facebook panel relies on the Panels framework to function fully. You can't have the former without the latter.

snachez
27th November 2008, 11:37 PM
Can someone make a MySpace and Bebo Chat platform, I dont use facebook but would really like to see some talented dev spend a bucketload of time creating a myspace picture posting app please kthanks.

htctoucher
28th November 2008, 03:26 AM
just so you guys know.. palringo supports facebook chat!

do the following:
go into your registry using total commander or other registry editor
go into HKCU (current user)
go into Software
go into Parlingo
see "beta/facebook" and change its value to "1" instead of "0"

add facebook as a service in palringo, and watch that baby power up!
imported all of my online facebook contacts and even my pending friend requests
i have used it and it works just as well as AIM on palringo (blazing fast - no bugs i can find)

i dont know why they dont just enable it by default.. it works really well (might be a battery drainer though)

enjoy!
htctoucher

TheChampJT
28th November 2008, 03:33 AM
just so you guys know.. palringo supports facebook chat!

do the following:
go into your registry using total commander or other registry editor
go into HKCU (current user)
go into Software
go into Parlingo
see "beta/facebook" and change its value to "1" instead of "0"

add facebook as a service in palringo, and watch that baby power up!
imported all of my online facebook contacts and even my pending friend requests
i have used it and it works just as well as AIM on palringo (blazing fast - no bugs i can find)

i dont know why they dont just enable it by default.. it works really well (might be a battery drainer though)

enjoy!
htctoucher

Has Palringo been updated at all in the last few weeks? I used to love it but eventually got tired of the way it functioned. I always want to use it again, but never sure if I should.

htctoucher
28th November 2008, 03:46 AM
im not sure, all i know is it is the fastest and most reliable that i have used.. if ud like to know the version ill check my device?

i can never tell if they update, but i am quite sure mine is the latest (thers an update function as i remember it told me i am up to date)
sorry for bein kinda vague.. my phone died and i havent had a chance to recharge

jakub_w
28th November 2008, 03:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_20R-Zr3os&feature=related
^^^ incase anyone is not familiar with xperia's facebook panel, looks amazing.

im with the OP that winmo definately needs a good facebook app to even try to be competitive. i know facebook isnt the most important app ever to have, but its just the principle of it. the fact that the stupid iphone has one, and android will get/has one. and the xperia version looks actually REALLY nice when compared to the iphone one, so this should be something that people are pushing for as its a SMALL step in the right direction for winmo, finally.

bombzhome
28th November 2008, 04:07 PM
The XPeria Facebook Panel is AWESOME!!

Paul_Days
28th November 2008, 04:11 PM
True, True.....

Hope we get some developers on it.

Paul

propagandax
28th November 2008, 04:31 PM
Hahaha times 2...

Hahahha.....facebook.....:cool:

Bumba
28th November 2008, 05:25 PM
[QUOTE=goldengraham;2952474]Facebook is (in my opinion) a program developed by women to keep track of their less than faithful men.[/]

Or just to accuse them of a bunch of sh_t they didn't do ;)

FYI, I like the iphone interface on Iris browser (http://www.torchmobile.com/)
iphone.facebook.com

speed_pour
28th November 2008, 10:46 PM
At last a voice of sanity in this thread. I am a dedicated WM user and have been for many years but sadly I seriously considering moving.

The underlying Windows Mobile interface has change little of the years and is still clumsy and stylus based so for anybody to write a "nice" app they have to code everthing, buttons, dialog boxes etc. This leads to each app having different look and feel and the user community complains so what do developers do...

They go to the platforms where it is easy to develop and people in the main don't complain. (iphone and android - although I still have my doubts about andriod!)

Much as I hate to say it, apple have got it right. You never see a mac application that doesn't look like it was written for mac (can the same be said about windows!!!) Until Microsoft do something to change the WM interface fundementally, things will stay the same (despite the efforts of HTC, Samsung, Sony et al) We just have to accept that.


First, before adding my voice to the subject, I just want to throw in a reality check. There are threats flying around for banning accounts for seemingly little more reason than people not liking facebook. I make no bones about preventing a flame war, but this is censoring beyond that level. Remember that constructive criticism can lead to a flame war just as easily as it can lead to brilliance.

Onto what i'm qouting for. I half agree, the wm world has lost some good developers, but I think it's more a factor of the new/shiny effect other phones currently boast. If you've been watching, you'll see a lot of android devs are angry with poor support, very buggy platform, and soon to be he same highly diverse set of devices wm suffers from. IPhone devs are angry over apple's politics (remember, they have control over the things you are allowed to run on your phone). Expect some of those guys to come back eventually.

On to my final thoughts (relevant, btw...in case somebody feels bans are justified). First of all, there actually is something overly obsessive going on here because the argument seems to be that the various web page access methods, a custom app (snap2face), and other apps that achieve chatting are not enough. Obviously the current options are not ideal, but they do exist. The real question SHOULD be, why demand a new app should be written, why not get in contact with the people behind snap2face since they've already done most of the work? It seems really short sighted to waste their efforts. Now, if somehow these options just aren't good enough, then most people are still going about it the wrong way. Why are you being demanding, trivializing and insulting the developers that you so desperately need, and not even bothering to organize a list of features/ideas/screenshots constructively (complaining about what's currently broken doesn't count). I think it should be pretty obvious that of you care so deeply for a facebook app, you need to look into making an effort, not just a hostile environment that no developers would want to go near (anybody notice there haven't been any volunteers yet?).

Btw, I'm not just babbling, I'm actually a developer.

ajbopp
28th November 2008, 11:02 PM
First, before adding my voice to the subject, I just want to throw in a reality check. There are threats flying around for banning accounts for seemingly little more reason than people not liking facebook. I make no bones about preventing a flame war, but this is censoring beyond that level. Remember that constructive criticism can lead to a flame war just as easily as it can lead to brilliance.

My understanding is the threat of bans applies to those who make the effort to spam this thread with repeated posts such as "Facebook - HAHAHA!" or "Facebook is stupid!" Not only offering nothing, but implicitly trying to start a flame war, in my opinion. I fully support bans in this case.

Why are you being demanding, trivializing and insulting the developers that you so desperately need, and not even bothering to organize a list of features/ideas/screenshots constructively (complaining about what's currently broken doesn't count).

I think as far back as the first post people have been offering suggestions of what they'd like to see ("make it like xperia"), what is clumsy or missing about current options, etc. And I would submit that pointing out what's currently broken certainly does count.

And might I also pose the thought that, although the title of this thread was poorly worded (even if the sentiment might be understandable) as I've read through the course of these posts it seems to me that in general it's been the developers who have been trivializing and insulting of the users, rather than vice versa. I would also point out that it's often difficult to tell who the developers are in many cases, so I'm making suppositions that aren't perhaps valid.

In any case, there seems to me more "Why on earth would we make an idiot application" comments than "Why on earth don't you idiots make it" comments.

For the record, I'm a developer too, though not skilled enough to make the sort of useful app that's been requested here.

ramontrotman
29th November 2008, 08:49 PM
Hahahha.....facebook.....:cool:

great post. you just bought your self a 4 day ban. thats double the fool before you. 4 times 2 is 8. who is next for a week ban?

ramontrotman
29th November 2008, 08:55 PM
threats? i dont see any threats. these have been banned and will continue to be banned...no threats involved. i am not into repeating myself. and if your idea of brilliance is "HAHAHA facebook"...then sir...i am waiting for you to be as brilliant as the rest.

htctoucher
29th November 2008, 09:20 PM
FYI, I like the iphone interface on Iris browser (http://www.torchmobile.com/)
iphone.facebook.com

this + palringo with enabled Facebook chat is all i need..

iris browser uses webkit, meaning iphone.facebook.com works just like the iphone - transitions work, photos work etc

check it out.. def worth it if you want something that works well with facebook

ramontrotman
29th November 2008, 09:32 PM
this + palringo with enabled Facebook chat is all i need..

iris browser uses webkit, meaning iphone.facebook.com works just like the iphone - transitions work, photos work etc

check it out.. def worth it if you want something that works well with facebook

just keep in mind it freezes on touch pros....not sure what other phones have this bug.

cornelha
30th November 2008, 03:32 PM
Xperia (sadly exclusive thanks to the 'panels' and sony ericssons efforts to fragment the windows mobile community)


Its now come to the point where I am convinced developers do not see a future with windows mobile and do not see development for the platform as worth it. Yet we have plenty of high end devices such as Diamond, Omnia, HD etc.. I mean, look how Pandora is coming along... :mad:

So im willing to DONATE MONEY to anyone who can convert the xperia facebook panel into a stand alone facebook app for the rest of us. To those of you who also feel the need for a decent facebook app, please show your support here..

I have not come to the point where I am prepared to take up your challenge. In order to do this. Im gonna need some screenshots detailing the use of the Xperia facebook app. I have already started on the base app and it connects and retrives facebook friends and groups. Now the idea is to make it all pretty and start adding features. If anyone is willing to help test and give me some tips for the design I would really appreaciate it.

I do really like the layout and design of the htc youtube app and im currently looking at that interface for design ideas.

jakub_w
30th November 2008, 06:37 PM
I have not come to the point where I am prepared to take up your challenge. In order to do this. Im gonna need some screenshots detailing the use of the Xperia facebook app. I have already started on the base app and it connects and retrives facebook friends and groups. Now the idea is to make it all pretty and start adding features. If anyone is willing to help test and give me some tips for the design I would really appreaciate it.

I do really like the layout and design of the htc youtube app and im currently looking at that interface for design ideas.

it's hard to find screenshots of it, plenty of videos available though.

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2008/11/25/video-facebook-panel-for-sony-ericsson-xperia-x1/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_20R-Zr3os&feature=related

1 photo
http://xperia-x1.com/xperia-x1-gets-a-facebook-panel/


i'm definately willing to test it.
HTC Touch (Vogue) on 3.42.50 and custom rom, wm 6.1

bedaweed
30th November 2008, 07:08 PM
I have not come to the point where I am prepared to take up your challenge. In order to do this. Im gonna need some screenshots detailing the use of the Xperia facebook app. I have already started on the base app and it connects and retrives facebook friends and groups. Now the idea is to make it all pretty and start adding features. If anyone is willing to help test and give me some tips for the design I would really appreaciate it.

I do really like the layout and design of the htc youtube app and im currently looking at that interface for design ideas.

I would love to help test it...
right now im stuck using m.facebook.com :(

conflipper
30th November 2008, 07:22 PM
The Touch HD has OEM packages to upload pics right to facebook from your album. However at this time, no one has been able to get it to work right. It will upload to youtube just fine. so you can upload your videos from your phone. And Facebook would be great, but no one has been able to get it working.

idenkilla
30th November 2008, 08:12 PM
I have not come to the point where I am prepared to take up your challenge. In order to do this. Im gonna need some screenshots detailing the use of the Xperia facebook app. I have already started on the base app and it connects and retrives facebook friends and groups. Now the idea is to make it all pretty and start adding features. If anyone is willing to help test and give me some tips for the design I would really appreaciate it.

I do really like the layout and design of the htc youtube app and im currently looking at that interface for design ideas.

i['m willing to help and test, i ave a touch pro. running custom rom

jakub_w
30th November 2008, 09:19 PM
FOR DEVELOPERS/cornelha:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb932386.aspx

not sure if you know this exists but i thought posting it here might be of some use.

knownboyofno
30th November 2008, 10:55 PM
I have not come to the point where I am prepared to take up your challenge. In order to do this. Im gonna need some screenshots detailing the use of the Xperia facebook app. I have already started on the base app and it connects and retrives facebook friends and groups. Now the idea is to make it all pretty and start adding features. If anyone is willing to help test and give me some tips for the design I would really appreaciate it.

I do really like the layout and design of the htc youtube app and im currently looking at that interface for design ideas.

I would test anytime just keep me(us) posted. I have a HTC TOUCH (CDMA) with WM6.1.

drawde
3rd December 2008, 05:08 AM
For those of you using Iris Browser to get to the iPhone FB site, does it freeze a lot for you? Every time I try to do something with the menu's, my touch pro locks up and I have to soft reset.

webazoid
3rd December 2008, 05:38 AM
Facebook Mobilizer (i dunno about giving them my phone number): http://faceofmobile.com/screenshots

Snap2face: http://www.magnifoca.com/Snap2Face_screenshots.html

silverpal
3rd December 2008, 07:52 AM
Hi, I guess winmo developers are predominately those who, in the course of using their devices, realised that they require an app that does something, and then goes on and develope an app that does exactly what they want. That's how many of the wonderful apps in xda developers website appeared right?

So unless facebook themselves create a facebook app for winmo, we're pretty stuck waiting for someone who has the skill to decide that he/she needs a facebook app and goes ahead and create one.

I was just wondering, are there any friendster apps or myspace apps? Maybe the same developers of those apps can bring over their expertise to developing a facebook app?

nir36
3rd December 2008, 08:12 AM
maybe we don't have a facebook app because HTC are trying to keep children from spending half their lives in dealing with this addictive website :)

ericsson68
3rd December 2008, 03:09 PM
Facebook Mobilizer (i dunno about giving them my phone number): http://faceofmobile.com/screenshots

Snap2face: http://www.magnifoca.com/Snap2Face_screenshots.html

Both of these, to use a youth term, are pants.

Mobilizer is a tacky looking front end utilizing IE to get you around the usual m.facebook.com site and half the time doesn't do that properly.

And Snap2Face or SkyBook as it's now called - gosh where do I start. Just read the facebook group to see how bad that is. They simply can't get the thing to use any of the api properly. Most of the time changes you make on the mobile don't refresh on the profile even though it says they do, messages aren't received and profiles don't download properly. It's taken me 3 weeks of support questions to get them to take two // out of the address it uses for the cache - which clearly doesn't work properly because of it and they still haven't done it.

I'm on a dutty diamond rom so visit the m site via opera and send my pictures using the Social Network Engine dutty has incorporated into the rom - right from my photo album. Works a charm.

cornelha
3rd December 2008, 03:25 PM
For those interested. I have asked kidnamedAlbert to help me a little with the graphics and here is a screen of the default screen you guys can get used to

http://i35.tinypic.com/2dhrwrd.png

This dude is magic with graphics I asked last night and when I logged on this morning this is what awaited me

Gochris
3rd December 2008, 04:09 PM
that looks awesome. will you be coding this in c#? I'd love to help if you need any.

93Akkord
3rd December 2008, 04:16 PM
For those interested. I have asked kidnamedAlbert to help me a little with the graphics and here is a screen of the default screen you guys can get used to

http://i35.tinypic.com/2dhrwrd.png

This dude is magic with graphics I asked last night and when I logged on this morning this is what awaited me

that does look awesome! will we be able to upload images to facebook?

93Akkord
3rd December 2008, 04:19 PM
on a side note:

Why don't more WM apps have graphics like these? This is one thing I do like about the iPhone. The eye candy is amazing. I know its possible.

jakub_w
3rd December 2008, 04:25 PM
For those interested. I have asked kidnamedAlbert to help me a little with the graphics and here is a screen of the default screen you guys can get used to

http://i35.tinypic.com/2dhrwrd.png

This dude is magic with graphics I asked last night and when I logged on this morning this is what awaited me

wow dude, that looks amazing. very very impressive. finally a facebook interface worthy of beating/competing with what every other platform already has!

vigin
3rd December 2008, 05:25 PM
amazing indeed
this will be one great step forward for winmo i think, even if it is for the facebook. I know my girlfriend will be very happy :D
TIA guys

drawde
3rd December 2008, 07:50 PM
taking donations yet? please let us know! :)

darthbane2k
3rd December 2008, 10:02 PM
That one screen shot puts all of snap2face and faceimobolizer to shame. Great work.. a donation is waiting when you are ready

b1iZZaRd
3rd December 2008, 10:32 PM
yes looks very nice... donation waiting when you are ready...

KAJE
6th December 2008, 06:34 PM
http://mylostblog.altervista.org/software/freeware/per-experia-x1/freeware-experia-x1-facebook-panel-windows-mobile-app

KAJE
6th December 2008, 06:36 PM
http://mylostblog.altervista.org/software/freeware/per-experia-x1/freeware-experia-x1-facebook-panel-windows-mobile-app


http://mylostblog.altervista.org/software/freeware/per-experia-x1/freeware-experia-x1-facebook-panel-windows-mobile-app

Anyone tried this and had any success???

KAJE
6th December 2008, 06:39 PM
This is the link to the CAB...

http://www.sonyericsson.com/download...okPanel_X1.cab

jakub_w
6th December 2008, 06:47 PM
This is the link to the CAB...

http://www.sonyericsson.com/download...okPanel_X1.cab

yes i have, does not work. i suggest u move to this thread...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455263

detusueno
6th December 2008, 07:01 PM
on a side note:

Why don't more WM apps have graphics like these? This is one thing I do like about the iPhone. The eye candy is amazing. I know its possible.

I wonder the same thing all the time. I say lets band together and mobilize the talent. For all developers out there:

I'm a art/marketing director by trade but as a graphic designer I've worked with MTV and several other big names. I'm willing to contribute to any software development by the way of UI design. I've always been a fan of some of the work done here by a few notable users but outside of that I think more can be done. If you need assistance, it's only a PM away.

darthbane2k
16th December 2008, 03:20 PM
even the palm has Facebook

http://software.palm.com/us/html/display_palm_product.jsp?id=prod6853897

http://software.palm.com/us/html/images/software/screenshots/vol01/fb/sku14214355/images/fb_160x160.gif

awaisjaffery
8th January 2009, 09:06 PM
yahoo Go! has a facebook widget as well.. seems alrite but has a messed up login feature where u need to type in a pin # all the time.. kinda got annoying

magicman0
23rd January 2009, 04:42 AM
Any see this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471972&page=8

Inmortal
23rd January 2009, 05:15 AM
Any see this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471972&page=8

are u kidding me? thats even worse than friendmobilizer and it is not even done

htctoucher
23rd January 2009, 05:23 AM
are u kidding me? thats even worse than friendmobilizer and it is not even done

well arent you a happy guy!

how bout not commenting if you arent even contributing ;)

those people are tryin hard to make an app.. and all you can do is complain.. really constructive man..

jonzjos
5th March 2009, 02:45 AM
I've been using a web browser called Iris http://www.torchmobile.com/download/ and I use the URL iphone.facebook.com with excellent results.

This combination works better than anything else I've tried. - JJ :D

neilson
5th March 2009, 02:52 AM
Ok good news, I'm NOT as pissed off anymore. Someone leaked from WM 6.5 a new dedicated Windows Mobile Facebook app, and even though it's only verison 0.14 I'm pleased with how it's looking. Look out iPhone and Blackberry, Windows Mobile is coming to the table with Facebook.

TheChampJT
5th March 2009, 02:54 AM
Ok good news, I'm NOT as pissed off anymore. Someone leaked from WM 6.5 a new dedicated Windows Mobile Facebook app, and even though it's only verison 0.14 I'm pleased with how it's looking. Look out iPhone and Blackberry, Windows Mobile is coming to the table with Facebook.

I don't think so! BB's v1.5 is just about to be released with added functions to integreate RSVP items to your calendar and add contact info/pics to the address book. v2.0 is in the works.

euphoria_x1
5th March 2009, 10:44 AM
Here the link to the WM facebook for anyone who needs it :)

http://files.me.com/ipatme/o603ui

Psygnosis84
5th March 2009, 12:46 PM
Here the link to the WM facebook for anyone who needs it :)

http://files.me.com/ipatme/o603ui

Looks beautiful on my Touch HD.

However everything loads great but when i enter my data i get weird errors such as Invalid API key or Invalid paramater, requiring a HTTPS connection and such and such.. wtf.

SOLVED: Ticked the Remember username at the beginning and it works fine now, i had it unticked before and was acting weird.

operative1
6th March 2009, 10:20 AM
also, way too much blablabla in this thread.
just found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489379 it's the thread to the app, mentioned in post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3419657#post3419657
wFacebook is discontinued due to facebook lawyers starting to sue the developers of the Facebook C# libary... whatever.
hope this helps you...

also:
Hahahaa. Facebook.
or in my version:
Hahahaa. Social network.

suge_e
20th September 2009, 08:50 PM
I totally agree with you, A facebook application would've been sweeet

ijob
7th November 2009, 12:05 PM
Hi,

I hate the official Microsoft Facebook App and browsing through Windows Market Place on my handset, there are no alternatives!

I absolutely loved the Xperia facebook panel and have noticed SE have included something similar [if not the same] on the new Satio/ Aino handsets.

Can we not have something similar?