Raphael Roms on Fuze - Battery Drain Issue

[l1234]

i have the TP and the bettery have a big problem it's ended in about 5 hours with no use.
how can i fix it?
is there any program to increase the use or tweak the settings?
:confused:

[melcul]

from 5 hours no
change the battery

[DeepThought]

You have either some app running which consumes a huge amount of power (really huge! Even if you use TP as video player with the screen configured to full brightness TPs battery lasts for at least four to five hours). Or your device has got a faulty battery (which would probably be more likely).

[aBE-One]

Are you by any chance using Wayfinder Navigator gps-software? I found (the hard way) that this software doesn't close the GPS-unit in the phone automatically when you exit the application. Even after a soft-reset the problem persists. This will drain the battery in pretty much 5 hours. The solution is to manually close the GPS-connection in the WF Navigator program settings every time you exit the app (and hope for a fix ASAP). I've already reported this to Wayfinder, and they're working on it.

[grandinferno]

Are you by any chance using Wayfinder Navigator gps-software? I found (the hard way) that this software doesn't close the GPS-unit in the phone automatically when you exit the application. Even after a soft-reset the problem persists. This will drain the battery in pretty much 5 hours. The solution is to manually close the GPS-connection in the WF Navigator program settings every time you exit the app (and hope for a fix ASAP). I've already reported this to Wayfinder, and they're working on it.

+1

I was using a GPS related app the other day and the same thing happened to me. Try and find out what hasn't shut down properly...

[l1234]

10X for all
melcul-i think i will send an email to HTC about that

DeepThought-i checked if there is any programs that running but nothing is running acording to X-buttom 35% memory in use.

aBE-One- i am not using that app.just using QuickGPS and Nav N GO IGO8 and they are close.

:(

[kicker jeep]

10X for all
melcul-i think i will send an email to HTC about that

DeepThought-i checked if there is any programs that running but nothing is running acording to X-buttom 35% memory in use.

aBE-One- i am not using that app.just using QuickGPS and Nav N GO IGO8 and they are close.

:(

what aBE-One is saying is that on his phone he had a similar problem, the software was closed but the GPS command remained active thus draining his battery, so your IGO8 might be shut down as software but there is a chance that the GPS hardware is still running in the background for no reason. go into your com manager and turn off GPS and that should resolve the issue

[apkx]

i have the TP and the bettery have a big problem it's ended in about 5 hours with no use.
how can i fix it?
is there any program to increase the use or tweak the settings?
:confused:

Exactly the same happened to me, after a full charge it took only 5 hours to an almost complete discharge.
I bought TP 1 week ago and it came with radio 1.02.25.17 with no battery issues at all but with the GPS issue -not finding sats-. After upgrading to 1.02.25.28 radio ROM, the GPS now works ok with TomTom, GPS test etc, but the battery now drains dramatically even in standby with no software running and all radios off except phone.
Is possible that the GPS radio stays on even after closing GPS software? In that case, is there any way to manually switch off the GPS module?. In TTN there's no a button to do this.

[DSF]

Mine too..
But i've observed this drain even before upgrating to radio 1.02.25.28

In 40 minutes from 78% to 69% (9%), in stand-by mode (short press power) without any running application!

And I've done 3 or 4 full discharge-full recharge cicles...

LE: No active moderator here? There are plenty of battery problem topics.. why not merge them? It's hard to chose in which one to post... Also, that's not the only case. See GPS related bugs, opera, etc. Too many duplicate topics.

[DSF]

Ok, more info:
I've drained the battery completely till the device turned off then I've left the phone on charging overnight (device turned off).

After about 9-10 hours I've unpluged and turned on the device. Used for 1 hour and 25 minutes in total (about 1 hour for browsing - not downloading, so data transfer was not continously - and the rest for music). With "Auto adjust backlight". The battery level gone from 100% down to 68%, so 32% battery drain in less than a hour and a half!!!

Now, after 4 minutes (device was in standby - eg: short power button press), I wanted to check something and the battery metter was on 66%... so 2% in standy/idle mode in just 4 minutes?!


@l1234 any updates?

[Gav_]

Ok, more info:
I've drained the battery completely till the device turned off then I've left the phone on charging overnight (device turned off).

After about 9-10 hours I've unpluged and turned on the device. Used for 1 hour and 25 minutes in total (about 1 hour for browsing - not downloading, so data transfer was not continously - and the rest for music). With "Auto adjust backlight". The battery level gone from 100% down to 68%, so 32% battery drain in less than a hour and a half!!!

Now, after 4 minutes (device was in standby - eg: short power button press), I wanted to check something and the battery metter was on 66%... so 2% in standy/idle mode in just 4 minutes?!


@l1234 any updates?

That all sounds correct. I can be typing emails/sms with WiFi and phone on (not actually doing anything), drains about 1% per minute.

[KevinACrider]

I read the other day that the percentage indicator is faulty. Some people have reported the battery draining down to 10% in a very short time, but then the meter will stay at 10% for hours before going down to 9%, etc. Has anyone else noticed this? If not, look for it and see if it happens to you. Also, open the power meter in the settings options and verify that it shows the same battery level. I've had that happen to me already where it would say 50% in the title bar but the power options still show 3/4 of the meter!

[euphoria47]

I read the other day that the percentage indicator is faulty. Some people have reported the battery draining down to 10% in a very short time, but then the meter will stay at 10% for hours before going down to 9%, etc. Has anyone else noticed this? If not, look for it and see if it happens to you. Also, open the power meter in the settings options and verify that it shows the same battery level. I've had that happen to me already where it would say 50% in the title bar but the power options still show 3/4 of the meter!

I have noticed that the battery percentage indicator does this. All in all, my device has better battery life after flashing a custom ROM, keeping screen brightness under half and leaving off bluetooth or wifi if possible. my battery will stay at 100% for hours, but if i soft reset, it drops 10%. other times it will drop right away but stay there. It really does stay at 10% or so though for ages before it drops further.

[DSF]

That all sounds correct. I can be typing emails/sms with WiFi and phone on (not actually doing anything), drains about 1% per minute.
I was brosing via 3G/HSPDA connection. No WiFi/BT on.

Now, it seems that the drain in standby time is OK (haven't done something special, same processes opened.. maybe just now the battery can be used at its full performance, after some charges/discharges) - BUT when using the device the battery drains quite quickly..

I give you an example.

Battery was 100%. Browsing the internet with IE & Opera for 1 hour. Battery meter was on 75%. So 25% in one hour... tooo much... The display backlight is set to "Auto adjust".

Again, I'm not using Wifi/BT, push e-mail, etc. Just normal browsing (without downloads) with a 3G/HSPDA connection.

[abs99]

I've had my Fuze about a week and I've been testing out many of the available ROMs. I've noticed disturbing trend and want to know if anyone else is seeing this problem, and if so, how can we fix it? It seems like anytime I install a Raphael based ROM, I start to lose battery power at a fast rate - about 10%/hour, maybe even faster. With a cooked ROM based off the ATT Fuze code base, I do not have this problem. I get this even when I install the keyboard fix, etc. and I am doing a hard reset after install to no avail. Any help, input, thoughts or shared experiences welcome.

Andrew

[ryncppr]

I am using PROven's latest 1.4 rom and the battery is amazing!!! I loaded it last night, charged it up around 9pm and at 5pm today I am still at 70%!!!

[fireweed]

I've noticed this as well. I first go suspicious when after a long flight in airplane mode the battery drained significantly.
No I am in all day meetings this week so I am trying several combination to see what sucks juice and what does not by keeping the radio out of the equation.
So far it seems that RomeOS is a battery suck while NATF is not. This is with the device doing nothing but sitting there with no radio activity.

[NRGZ28]

I've notice that the stock .32 radio on the fuze is the culprit (at least on MY fuze). After I downgraded to the .28 radio the battery life has easily doubled!

[tyguy]

@NRGZ28
Which .28 radio do you mean?
1.02.25.28 - Extract Official Shipped Orange ROM ESN 1.90.75.3??

[ecltech]

I'm using ROMeOS with 1.02.25.28 radio and I have pretty good battery life on the Fuze. I've also used some other ROMs here and no issues either in regards to battery. Is your data connection on constantly or is it configured to disconnect after X # of mins?

[abs99]

ryncppr: This doesn't surprise me since PROven's ROM is based in a large part on the Fuze code base.

fireweed: yes, you are seeing the same as me. With NATF's ROM everything okay, but with a ROM based off Diamond Pro, not so good and this includes ROMeOS version. With ROMeOS, after install, and as battery drains, I have noticed the back of the device gets hot - right where I imagine the CPU is located. Something is very wrong with that ROM on Fuze.

NRGZ28: Are you sure it was the radio that made such a difference? Does the downgraded radio support HSDPA?

ecltech: I know I can set a data disconnect in the config tools to 1 minute and I have recently started to apply that setting in NATF ROM. However, the problems I am seeing occur immediately following a flash with a cooked ROM like ROMeOS before making any settings or installing any software. Please see my comment to fireweed above. Also, I am using stock ATT radio so far.

I would really like to get to the bottom of this issue. It is very odd and I really don't understand the cause.

[Weststar]

I can somewhat vouch for this. When I was running ROMeOS, I would get a -%10 in battery per hour just about. I never really thought whether or not it had to do with a fuze vs tp problem.

This is very interesting--i'll keep up with this thread.

[laakness]

My Rom and Radio are in my signature and I don't feel I have bad battery drain. I do notice when I do a soft reset I lose about 5% battery but the battery meter seems to be working correctly as I can see it drop by 1% after using wifi for 10 minutes or more, etc.

I have gmail set to check every 30 minutes and I leave my data connection on at all times. Weather is also set to auto update.

At the end of the day with about a half hour of calling and some light browsing/texting I have at least 50% left. If I could find more battery life I would be pumped but this is on par with my Tilt now when it was running it's best.

[ecltech]

Regarding ROMeOS on Fuze, I had it fully charge about 2 hours ago. It's now saying 98% so not sure if the issue you guys are seeing is device specific or not. Very strange issue. If you think it's an issue with the ROM, you may want to touch bases with monx. He's very responsive and you may also want to check out his ROM thread. Maybe other users are having similar issues.

[Weststar]

Regarding ROMeOS on Fuze, I had it fully charge about 2 hours ago. It's now saying 98% so not sure if the issue you guys are seeing is device specific or not. Very strange issue. If you think it's an issue with the ROM, you may want to touch bases with monx. He's very responsive and you may also want to check out his ROM thread. Maybe other users are having similar issues.


Well, even if ROMeOS wasn't the culprit, i'm still mad at the fact that the volume buttons don't work correctly :mad:

[clmbngbkng]

What do you mean by working correctly?

I've had some WM Smartphones so I'm new to the PPC version and maybe I should be expecting more from the volume buttons.

Anyways I too have a Fuze with ROMeOS 1.40.1 and it bugs me to no ends that I can't get the battery to last for more than 8 hours with pretty light use.

Do any of you have S2U2 installed? I've had it on the device since flashing 1.40.1 and I'm wondering if that could be part of the problem. I'm trying the device w/o it installed and will see.

[jeffreycentex]

AT&T stock had about 7% per hour loss (primarily due to the radio). RomEos was the 10~12% per hour. Proven's ROM based on the HD is about 30% for the entire day. All of these are with Exchange Activesync set to "As Items Arrive" all day (not the default setting) with an average of 45 emails per day.

The change in the radio helps considerably. The Blackstone radio bumped Proven's ROM to about 20% loss per day...

[fireweed]

Do any of you have S2U2 installed?

I do. I also recall someone saying there was a battery drain bug in S2U2.
Now I am even more confused :confused:

[laakness]

What do you mean by working correctly?

I've had some WM Smartphones so I'm new to the PPC version and maybe I should be expecting more from the volume buttons.

Anyways I too have a Fuze with ROMeOS 1.40.1 and it bugs me to no ends that I can't get the battery to last for more than 8 hours with pretty light use.

Do any of you have S2U2 installed? I've had it on the device since flashing 1.40.1 and I'm wondering if that could be part of the problem. I'm trying the device w/o it installed and will see.


YES, I'm so sorry but I forgot to mention that I found the S2U2 programs to tremendously drain the battery on ROMeOS. I stopped using them and it helps a ton!

I got my phone Security unlocked and tried some of the new radios and most of them I could visibly watch the battery drain just stitting at the home screen.

[bruno18]

YES, I'm so sorry but I forgot to mention that I found the S2U2 programs to tremendously drain the battery on ROMeOS. I stopped using them and it helps a ton!

I got my phone Security unlocked and tried some of the new radios and most of them I could visibly watch the battery drain just stitting at the home screen.

The SU2U is the culprit of battery drainage not only on the RoMEOS but also on other ROMs like Proven or Da_G, I tried all of them. With the SU2U installed, the phone could only be up to 12 hours and it sucked my life as hell! I have to sit all day with phone plugged into the charge... It also caused the phone hot without using anything (no data transfer connections at all).

My phone has not been security locked and it is not a Fuze (it is a TouchPRO) so I could not get other Diamond or HD radio on it for testing. Now when using Romeos 1.401 and radio .32, withou S2U2 installed, my phone can last more than a day (1.5), every hour it lose 10-12% of battery.
Let me check again on the PRoven and NATF...
Thanks all

[kcchen]

Yes, I also found S2U2 to be the culprit of my battery drain. I got about 8hrs on a full overnight charge. After switching to TouchLockPro, I'm still at 69% after 16hrs.

I'm using RoMEOS 1.40.1 w/stock AT&T Radio... Exchange mail push,~1-2hrs of calls, txt, rare camera use.

[clmbngbkng]

Yes, I also found S2U2 to be the culprit of my battery drain. I got about 8hrs on a full overnight charge. After switching to TouchLockPro, I'm still at 69% after 16hrs.

I'm using RoMEOS 1.40.1 w/stock AT&T Radio... Exchange mail push,~1-2hrs of calls, txt, rare camera use.

You give me hope for my FUZE when its fully charged. I was pretty bummed that I only got 8 hours from almost no use at all.

[fr4c]

does S2U2 come loaded with the latest ROMeOS?

[fireweed]

Yes, I also found S2U2 to be the culprit of my battery drain. I got about 8hrs on a full overnight charge. After switching to TouchLockPro, I'm still at 69% after 16hrs.

I'm using RoMEOS 1.40.1 w/stock AT&T Radio... Exchange mail push,~1-2hrs of calls, txt, rare camera use.

Goodbye S2U2, hello TouchLockPro!
Will report my results

[ramontrotman]

does S2U2 come loaded with the latest ROMeOS?

it does not. i've stop using s2u2 for a few days...on both proven and romeos, it really help the battery A LOT! i can actually make it home after a 16 hour day with heavy use.

[thedogger]

I noticed the same warm spot with ROMeOS 1.40.1. Not getting that same problem with Da_G. And battery life seems longer - although I will have a better measurement of that tomorrow.

[clmbngbkng]

it does not. i've stop using s2u2 for a few days...on both proven and romeos, it really help the battery A LOT! i can actually make it home after a 16 hour day with heavy use.

I can live with 16 hours of pretty heave use and as rzanology said S2U2 is not pre-installed on ROMeOS.

[xboxhaxorz]

I was having issues with stock and with romeo, until i went to provens. Now im getting 3dys+ with very very very light usage, of course im in my basement so im sure that doesnt help.

I do plan to switch to the pdm rom though, to try it out. Seems reliable, may come back to proven if it doesnt fit my needs.

[taiseer999]

Ever since I have replaced S2u2 with Pocketshield phone excessive battery drain is over with whatever ROM flashed in my TP

[ramontrotman]

Ever since I have replaced S2u2 with Pocketshield phone excessive battery drain is over with whatever ROM flashed in my TP

good to see you alive and kicking with a new phone.

[P1Tater]

Ever since I have replaced S2u2 with Pocketshield phone excessive battery drain is over with whatever ROM flashed in my TP

I stumbled across PocketShield the other week and love it. I also noticed my battery drainage is now to a minimum. Working on my second day without plugging in to charge at all and still at 62% after 24 hrs.

[laakness]

Thanks to all who mentioned PocketShield. I'm going to give it a try and if it's as good as the description then I will have something to buy :)

[HemanC]

I don't think S2U2 is the problem here. Ever since I got my Fuze, I've been using ROMeOS with S2U2 installed. Normally, I have to charge it twice a day with normal use. The battery would drain about 35%-40% even if I did't use it much except to check for time and 3 or 4 under a min calls within a 6 hours time frame. I switched to NATF's rom install S2U2 last night and went to bed. Woke up this morning (~7 hours) and the battery bar barely moved, 5% at most. I have Batti installed to check for my battery status.

[taiseer999]

good to see you alive and kicking with a new phone.

good to see you too, how is your Raph compared to Tilt

[taiseer999]

I stumbled across PocketShield the other week and love it. I also noticed my battery drainage is now to a minimum. Working on my second day without plugging in to charge at all and still at 62% after 24 hrs.

Same results achieved here after a period of hating the TP and flashing every ROM in the way thinking it was due to ROMs :)

[venelar]

Using RomEOS on my Fuze with 3g, exchange, (hsdpa disabled) I get good batt life. Unplug the phone at 7am and heavy usage all day when i get home at 6pm it's got ~40% left.

[mindfrost82]

My ROM and Radio are in my sig as well.

I don't have significant battery drain either.

I took mine off the charger at 7am this morning, and its now 11am. I have BT on, no data or wifi. I haven't made a call this morning, or texted, but I did listen to music for about 30 minutes using my A2DP Moto T505 in my car. My battery is now at 93%.

[abs99]

I don't think S2U2 is the problem here. Ever since I got my Fuze, I've been using ROMeOS with S2U2 installed. Normally, I have to charge it twice a day with normal use. The battery would drain about 35%-40% even if I did't use it much except to check for time and 3 or 4 under a min calls within a 6 hours time frame. I switched to NATF's rom install S2U2 last night and went to bed. Woke up this morning (~7 hours) and the battery bar barely moved, 5% at most. I have Batti installed to check for my battery status.

Just to add some more info, I have not been using S2U2, only stock ROM to test. I usually test by enabling ActiveSync for coporate e-mail and activating WindowsLive for personal e-mail updating 1x/hour. Some basic web browsing, maybe a phone call or two. Bottom line is that so far, NATF ROM gives the best battery life. I have tested the PROven ROM today and although not nearly as quick to drain the battery as ROMeOS, it still seems to drain faster than NATF. I do not know why we are seeing such fast battery drain. I am guessing there may be "services" running in the background which kills the battery. As much as I like many of the tweaks in these other ROMs, the fact is that battery life is simply the highest priority for me.

For anyone who wants to test, do a hard reset after installing a ROM, do not install any software, and monitor battery usage after an hour and see how fast it depletes.

Andrew

[clmbngbkng]

If you have S2U2 installed on your TP or Fuze and its version 1.33 or 1.35 I strongly believe that is greatly contributing to shorter battery life. You may have some other problems going on but from what I've gathered on the forum and recently from uninstalling S2U2 myself is that it your battery last longer with out it at the moment.

I just uninstalled S2U2 last night and with a full charge my Fuze, running ROMeOS, has lasted 16 hours and is only at 55% where before it would only last 8 hours and go from 100% to 0% in that time. Both were using it to make some short calls, send texts, get email and surf the web.

[Jedidiah]

i posted about this in the normal NON ROM Dev area.. maybe the moderators should move it? As i dont think it is rom related.

I have found that TF3d was a big factor and s2u2.

[vijovame]

I can tell a "me too" with this battery drain problem! My TP is the worse from the wizard!
Sorry my stupidity, what is S2U2? long history with PPC but bad English specially with abbreviations... lol :D

[tyguy]

S2U2 is slide to unlock. Surf to the general section and look for it there.
It's an iPhone kinda lock/unlock.

[vijovame]

S2U2 is slide to unlock. Surf to the general section and look for it there.
It's an iPhone kinda lock/unlock.
ahh ok:rolleyes: Thanks, lol, never liked it!, I need to check if proven rom has it built in...

[bersca]

I stumbled across PocketShield the other week and love it. I also noticed my battery drainage is now to a minimum. Working on my second day without plugging in to charge at all and still at 62% after 24 hrs.

I've been pulling my hair out over this battery life issue. Charged my phone last night and by 3pm battery was completely drained and I missed several calls. Never thought S2U2 could be the problem. I installed PocketShield and uninstalled S2U2, now I can't wait to see if battery life improves. Thanks P1Tater!

[P1Tater]

I've been pulling my hair out over this battery life issue. Charged my phone last night and by 3pm battery was completely drained and I missed several calls. Never thought S2U2 could be the problem. I installed PocketShield and uninstalled S2U2, now I can't wait to see if battery life improves. Thanks P1Tater!

Enjoy. Because your battery life easily doubled.

[HemanC]

I agree with NATF does last much longer with battery life than ROMeOS. As far as running process in the background, my take is because ROMeOS doesn't have press "X" to close a program build in. Whereas NATF has it build in to the ROM. Basically, everything is running in the background until you manual close it. I like to config my S2U2 not to suspense any running program. Maybe that's why experience is different than most users in Xda.


Just to add some more info, I have not been using S2U2, only stock ROM to test. I usually test by enabling ActiveSync for coporate e-mail and activating WindowsLive for personal e-mail updating 1x/hour. Some basic web browsing, maybe a phone call or two. Bottom line is that so far, NATF ROM gives the best battery life. I have tested the PROven ROM today and although not nearly as quick to drain the battery as ROMeOS, it still seems to drain faster than NATF. I do not know why we are seeing such fast battery drain. I am guessing there may be "services" running in the background which kills the battery. As much as I like many of the tweaks in these other ROMs, the fact is that battery life is simply the highest priority for me.

For anyone who wants to test, do a hard reset after installing a ROM, do not install any software, and monitor battery usage after an hour and see how fast it depletes.

Andrew

[laakness]

I'm not sure why so many people bag on the ROMeOS battery life. When comparing are you using the same radio and exact same programs after each flash and same about of screen brightness and use? I know radio varies for everyone but I tried the BS radio and one of the newest Diamond radios and I could visually watch the battery drop while in use.

I took mine off the charger at 7am yesterday morning. Bluetooth is on, in Edge coverage, constant data (no timeout), Gmail check every 30 minutes, and about 1.5 hours of calls total. I am now at 47%.

Rom/Radio in sig.

[djkasmic]

has anybody noticed that process opera9.exe is still running in background and uses some memory and cpu-usage??

trying to kill that process isnt possible, because it will come up again after a few seconds.

maybe thats another issue for batterydrain??

[abs99]

Something interesting. I was reading last night on XDA about GPS issues some folks were having. In the thread there was a discussion of multiple hardware versions for Raphael. I am now wondering if the power drain issue may be a function of either 1) Raphael hardware revisions - Fuze may be different or 2) something related to the deletion of the front camera on Fuze. I am thinking this because in my experience the issues occur with virtually any ROM I have tested that is not based on ATT Fuze OS, including but not limited to ROMeOS. When I try a cooked ROM based off ATT Fuze OS, everything seems ok - NATF or PROven for example.

Link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426433

[g2tl]

has anybody noticed that process opera9.exe is still running in background and uses some memory and cpu-usage??

trying to kill that process isnt possible, because it will come up again after a few seconds.

maybe thats another issue for batterydrain??

I'm using RRE 1.7, and I don't have that issue.

[duke_stix]

Hi all

Ive had my Touch Pro for about 2 weeks now, and already i have had to order a cradle and a set of spare batteries

does anybody know how i can get this monster to chew through the battery less?

on light/moderate usage it runs out quickly. i.e overnight charge, take off at 10am, will be depleted by 7pm. that i think is ridiculous.

i dont use exchange or email, just normal phone functions and pda functionality.

i am using Romeos rom, the latest v1.51

can anyone help?

thanks

[mike g]

i am useing a stock rom on the tilt, and the fuze. before installing any apps, (not even net compact framework, flash lite,.. nothhing except litterally only s2u2..) i can make it through a day of moderate to (HEAVY!!) use and still sqeak by without a charge up before bed. and the moderate days have 1/4 charge left.

moderate = 10+ email checks and responds. 20+ texts. 2hrs of browsing ebay, bank acct. status. weather radar scan. and of course looking for new apps and a pit stop or two to xda. 10 or so 2 minute calls and a handfull of 10 min calls.
HEAVY!! = the above with posting adds on craigs list. a couple 20 - 30 min calls. and another hr or so of internet.:D

all that to say i get ALLOT from a stock unit ..... BUT!!!! read on....
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*******There is an app.. or combination of apps that drain the battery so fast i am thinking it is more a VIRUS that we willingly install and does not have the reproductive capabilities of a real virus.******* im talking about.
************************************************** ***
COMPLETE DRAINAGE WITHOUT ANY USE OVER AN 8 HR PERIOD. :mad:****** i tested it the other night just before my last hard rest. complete charge before bed. and had littleraly 3% charge left when i got up 8 1/2 hrs later
************************************************** ****
here r the apps i had on the phone at the time of the most extreme case.:confused:
diamondtf3d
advanced config 3.3
net compact framework 3.5
flash lite 3.1
flash player 7
you tube play
s2u2
note{touch flo is always active}
************************************************** ****
im not saying that just haveing these instaled was the problem on my fuze.
but possibly the changes i made with the config tools. i might have made a bad combination move that had thephone pissed off at me


i do notice a ever so slight drop with s2u2 but i can live with it for sure. i almost always install this first thing. but until i have more time to play with these apps and narrow down what is really going on i am not going to install the others. i will not be able to look into the further until after the holidays.. so im throwing this out there if someone would like to run with my hypothisys and start narrowing things down pm me with what you have tried and we can post an answer to battery drainage problems.

some of us simply need to get an extended life battery
http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=172018

for the rest.. your not crazzy.. thier is a battery monster lurking in the dark
if you want to know for sure..
simply hard reset your phone. (back to stock rom and everything) use it for a week without any extra apps) except mayb s2u2. use the phone for a week. even 2 weeks if you can make it. this will give u a good feel for the normal battery life. then.... install as may apps as you want in one sitting... use it for a DAY... :p

sorry for the book. second post i think also..

[euphoria47]

simply hard reset your phone. (back to stock rom and everything) use it for a week without any extra apps) except mayb s2u2. use the phone for a week. even 2 weeks if you can make it. this will give u a good feel for the normal battery life. then.... install as may apps as you want in one sitting... use it for a DAY... :p

sorry for the book. second post i think also..

Since your device is already in a "clean" state, why don't you install the apps you use, one by one, day by day and then you will have your culprit.

A lot faster than having someone else having an app-less device for 2 weeks to only begin to try to find the answer.

Just my 2 cents.

[mike g]

Since your device is already in a "clean" state, why don't you install the apps you use, one by one, day by day and then you will have your culprit.

A lot faster than having someone else having an app-less device for 2 weeks to only begin to try to find the answer.

Just my 2 cents.

you r right. but i need full capacity throught the holidays i will do that once the new years bash is over. i was more stateing that so if someone was wondering if they had normal runtime they should use a "clean" device for a while to know what to compare it to when they start flashing and installing apps....

i think this battery issue goes beyond the few apps i was using. it seems to sneak up on me also. -30 min here - 40 min there.. then suddenly you cant make it till noon with light useage. :(
the onlx fix at the moment for me is to wipe the slate clean every so often.

axample the same fuze that did not make it through the night "8" hrs. has lasted today from 7 am till now 4:30 pm with 63% battery remaining. listened to the fm radio through ear buds for at least 6 hrs on a volume that drowned out a chain saw. only a couple 5 min calls and auto email checks every 2 hrs.
but still 6hrs of continuos listening :D and i am very confident to make it to 12 pm tonight.

[mike g]

i posted about this in the normal NON ROM Dev area.. maybe the moderators should move it? As i dont think it is rom related.

I have found that TF3d was a big factor and s2u2.

tf3d config and avance config 3.3 realy cut the life in half. you will need a charge by noon vrs. getting to 8 oclock with heavy useage.
i think just abaout every app will decline battery life to some extent. i seem i add one here and there. and soon im charging 3x a day.:mad: hard reset and im back to 10 - 12 hrs of heavy use.:)

[karloe]

tf3d config and avance config 3.3 realy cut the life in half.

Are you sure, those are run once and soft-reset progs, helping you to preserve energy :cool:
It's more likely that other progs are the culprits, S2U2 is a well known one :eek:

[TweakMyDevice]

Using TF3D enabled with Second Today on qsqa's PROven 1.07 I'm getting the best battery usage ever on a PPC! With mild to moderate internet/email usage, 40 to 50 texts per day, 20 minutes of calls per day, very little music playing, lots of camera/picture album use....lasts 3 days. :cool:

[stevelion]

I have a problem caused by Reminders waking the device up while in the case and them stayng on because of the pressure from movement, etc. on the screen. It kills the battery. Are you by chance using push email or otherwise synchronzing with exchange and getting lot of reminders?

[maw]

Going to buy me a 2100 mAh battery as soon as they are back in stock! This just sucks big time!

[mymimi111]

i am useing a stock rom on the tilt, and the fuze. before installing any apps, (not even net compact framework, flash lite,.. nothhing except litterally only s2u2..) i can make it through a day of moderate to (HEAVY!!) use and still sqeak by without a charge up before bed. and the moderate days have 1/4 charge left.

moderate = 10+ email checks and responds. 20+ texts. 2hrs of browsing ebay, bank acct. status. weather radar scan. and of course looking for new apps and a pit stop or two to xda. 10 or so 2 minute calls and a handfull of 10 min calls.
HEAVY!! = the above with posting adds on craigs list. a couple 20 - 30 min calls. and another hr or so of internet.:D

all that to say i get ALLOT from a stock unit ..... BUT!!!! read on....
************************************************** ***
*******There is an app.. or combination of apps that drain the battery so fast i am thinking it is more a VIRUS that we willingly install and does not have the reproductive capabilities of a real virus.******* im talking about.
************************************************** ***
COMPLETE DRAINAGE WITHOUT ANY USE OVER AN 8 HR PERIOD. :mad:****** i tested it the other night just before my last hard rest. complete charge before bed. and had littleraly 3% charge left when i got up 8 1/2 hrs later
************************************************** ****
here r the apps i had on the phone at the time of the most extreme case.:confused:
diamondtf3d
advanced config 3.3
net compact framework 3.5
flash lite 3.1
flash player 7
you tube play
s2u2
note{touch flo is always active}
************************************************** ****
im not saying that just haveing these instaled was the problem on my fuze.
but possibly the changes i made with the config tools. i might have made a bad combination move that had thephone pissed off at me


i do notice a ever so slight drop with s2u2 but i can live with it for sure. i almost always install this first thing. but until i have more time to play with these apps and narrow down what is really going on i am not going to install the others. i will not be able to look into the further until after the holidays.. so im throwing this out there if someone would like to run with my hypothisys and start narrowing things down pm me with what you have tried and we can post an answer to battery drainage problems.

some of us simply need to get an extended life battery
http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=172018

for the rest.. your not crazzy.. thier is a battery monster lurking in the dark
if you want to know for sure..
simply hard reset your phone. (back to stock rom and everything) use it for a week without any extra apps) except mayb s2u2. use the phone for a week. even 2 weeks if you can make it. this will give u a good feel for the normal battery life. then.... install as may apps as you want in one sitting... use it for a DAY... :p

sorry for the book. second post i think also..
anything pushing on display even it off will drain battery in 8 hr. screen is very sensitive. i have tested