Why does Yahoo Imap work on wm6.1 but not on my desktop Outlook?

[Thresher]

My Fuze auto configures for yahoo and goes to a imap.mail.yahoo.com server, it works like an IMAP champ.

I then configure my Outlook for the same settings and I keep getting the UserName/Password entry box. I know I have the settings the same as the phone and the correct username/password.

Any tips? Imap for my Yahoo would be awesome on Outlook.

[Thresher]

I am kind of answering my own question here. Looks like Imap Yahoo has a way to verify an id of the device type before it allows connection. So apparently wm6.1 mail app sends what it needs to Yahoo Imap Mobile but Outlook does not.

[tylast]

Damn, I was looking at doing that as well. I hope they open it up!

[jordyr]

Hi,

Surely there must be a way to fake this via Outlook, anyone?

[Thresher]

Not that I have ever found. I made a full conversion over to Gmail as a result and low and behold it was a huge pain in the ass and I now have to monitor two email addresses.

[jordyr]

Hey,

Thanks for the reply. From what I understand, Yahoo servers require a specific, but non-standard IMAP command to be sent before login is done. The command is: “ID ("GUID" "1")”. Rumor is that its easy to modify the client to send it. Mutt and Mozilla Thunderbird already have a modded version. Furthermore, YPOPSs! and FreePOPs also use this command.

Can anyone provide some insight as to how we would go about modifying the connection string Outlook uses?

I guess this would be similar to configuring your browser to present itself as a different client - something that is very easily done.

Thanks!

[jean-luc]

I would also strongly appreciate a solution for this...
Somehow it should be possible to make "desktop Outlook" behave like its mobile counterpart. At least as an option... :mad:

I have found this on the web describing the issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Mail#Free_IMAP_and_SMTPs_access

Does someone know how to incorporate the sending of the described ID string into Outlook as well as it seems to be present in the mobile version??

[psolunke]

I would also strongly appreciate a solution for this...
Somehow it should be possible to make "desktop Outlook" behave like its mobile counterpart. At least as an option... :mad:

I have found this on the web describing the issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Mail#Free_IMAP_and_SMTPs_access

Does someone know how to incorporate the sending of the described ID string into Outlook as well as it seems to be present in the mobile version??
Actually Yahoo IMAP does not recognize ur phone/pc..
If u want it to use on pc pl make sure that u selected download only headers option then only it wroks

[psolunke]

I would also strongly appreciate a solution for this...
Somehow it should be possible to make "desktop Outlook" behave like its mobile counterpart. At least as an option... :mad:

I have found this on the web describing the issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Mail#Free_IMAP_and_SMTPs_access

Does someone know how to incorporate the sending of the described ID string into Outlook as well as it seems to be present in the mobile version??
ok .

[jean-luc]

Actually Yahoo IMAP does not recognize ur phone/pc..
If u want it to use on pc pl make sure that u selected download only headers option then only it wroks

This is NOT true. I have tried downloading only headers and still the same problem: On the PC Outlook fails to connect correctly to the IMAP server due to the problem described on the page I have linked to above. :mad:
With mobile Outlook on the phone downloading headers as well as content via IMAP works perfectly.

[jordyr]

I agree with Jean Luc. When using a mobile device to access the Yahoo IMAP server, any and all options work as they should. However, when using Outlook via non-mobile computer, it doesn't work.

Clearly Yahoo has implemented a filter on the connection string Outlook is sending to prevent users from using IMAP. I believe the fix should be relatively easy. Can anyone provide some insight on this?


This is NOT true. I have tried downloading only headers and still the same problem: On the PC Outlook fails to connect correctly to the IMAP server due to the problem described on the page I have linked to above. :mad:
With mobile Outlook on the phone downloading headers as well as content via IMAP works perfectly.

[Hammerfest]

bump from the ages for a damn solution!

[Howshall]

Just happened to be searching more generally for this myself today for my desktop Outlook having got used to IMAP on my WM6.5.3 Energy ROM and wanting better that 'leave mail for x days' POP3 options (Specifically I want my desktop sent items to sync up to Yahoo mail like then do when sending from my phone so in and out boxes are all in 1 place)

Found this MS Technical info page that seems to give all the info needed on how to get Outlook to send custom properties, it's just I don't have enough knowledge of RegEditing to get this right ;(

Changes to custom properties in Outlook - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907985

Scroll down to just over half way on the page and start reading from 'Not recommended: Use the AllowNamedProps registry key'

That suggests you can edit your CurrentUser registry values to permanently send pre values as part of each recieve something along:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\O utlook\AllowedNamedProps\{00020329-0000-0000-C000-000000000046} "Kind"=dword:00000000 "ID"=dword:00000001

???

Although I presume that the {000...00046} GUID is Machine or User specific and that's the bit I'm not sure what to set for my install, think I worked out the other bits.

Anyone with better Windows Registry knowledge able to help out?

[Howshall]

In my continued searches I came across the following IMAP proxy which acts between Outlook and Yahoo to insert the necessary GUID 1 string as part of it's call to Yahoo's server, and would do that same for any other IMAP capable client at http://www.ameir.net/blog/archives/43-Yahoo!-Mail-IMAP-Proxy.html

Using the Windows download of this tool on Windows 7 with Outlook 2003 (Odd combination I know!) I was able to get Yahoo IMAP email and all folders to appear within Outlook where I thought I was onto a real winner! :)

Unfortunately it looks like either the proxy or my setup didn't fully support 2 way IMAP as I wasn't able to drag any local email up into the IMAP account as I should have been able to do.

It did however allow me to pull down server copies of Sent items from both Yahoo Webmail 'Sent' and WM Device 'Sent Items' folders and just drag and drop them into my normal Outlook default Sent Items so those were all together again.

Setup was pretty simple for what I got working:

1) Download and unzip the file in the Windows archive from that page above

2) Run the .exe included with those extracted files to open a DOS window running the proxy

3) In Outlook configure a new IMAP email account but set incoming IMAP to 'localhost' then in advanced settings make sure incoming port is 3490. Setup all other fields as you'd normally expect and with Yahoo normal SMTP server address.

4) Outlook will add a new tree for that account in left hand 'Mail Folders' view, just click around and explore. If no sub folders appear right click on root and choose 'Update Folders'

Hope that helps someone, and as code for this proxy is open source maybe someone could work out how to embed this customisation direct within Outlook so IMAP should then work fully 2 way?

Will keep my fingers crossed someone with suitable skills sees this thread as would really like to move into an IMAP world now I know how much better than POP3 it is!!!

[jordyr]

A special thanks to Howshall for the research!

I have tried adding those registry entries in an effort to get Outlook to send the custom command, but it doesn't seem to be sending it when looking at the outgoing packets. Can anyone offer some insight? Thanks.