REAL WORKING QuickGPS for trinity

[themaskfly]

Hello everyone,
first merry x-mas. :p

I spended a whole afternoon to find the accelerator of GPS for my trinity.

on the forum, there are three tools exist:

1. QGPS from http://www.avaricum.net/qgps.cab
2. SeaSGEE
3. a modified QuickGPS from P3300

QGPS is unique FOR HP DEVICE, SeaSGEE and the QuickGPS from P3300 are FOR SiRF Star chips which download a "packedEphemeris.ee" to the windows root.

It's been a misunderstood on this forum that many members think that trinity has a SiRF Star Chips.

But, as a matter of factor, what's in trinity is a Qualcomm gpsONE chipset. (qualcomm 6280). And the right satellite map file for qualcomm chipset is "xtra.bin".

So actually, trinity MUST use the same QuickGPS as Kaiser or Diamond which use the same Qualcomm BRAND.

Somehow the quickGPS is coded uniquely for Kaiser or diamond, on trinity it will say connetion failed.

With some luck I found the quickgps.exe cracked for any deviced, version which download xtra.bin instead of packedEphemeris.ee

Tested after a hard reset (so that's sure that will be a cold start of the gps), and the quickgps really works like a charm, tomtom finished his first location within 30 seconds. :D

Hope this will be helpful for all of you. good luck

[adriafix]

At last a quick gps that works.
thanks for sharing

[nikitto]

Thanks. It works properly in my Tinity. I've just renamed QuickGPS.exe.0409.mui to QuickGPS.exe.0C0A.mui, because I use a Spanish ROM.


Best Regards !

[canope]

Hi,

Are you sure that it's working ?
I've just try the cab.
It's download the xtra.bin from the webserver but it didn't upload it to the radio module.
I enabled "AT command debug" for retrieving the content of the exchange from the PPC part (samsung) and the MSM6275.
Connection to the GPS port send the AT@startgps commant but didnt upload the xtra.bin...
And i've just try to have a fix on my place.
It's take exactly the same time as before.

For your information, the msm6275 retrieve the ephemeris over the air thru the low speed like provided by the GPS system.
This , as read on the Trinity Service Manual, take 35 sec on average.
This Ephemeris is stocked on the radio part of the MSM6275.
It's have 4 hour of validity time.
So, if you try to connect , even after hard reset (since hard reset only reset the ppc part), this ephemeris is ok.
You will normally have a fix within 15 sec in this case.
I also have found the best way to improve the fix time on the trinity.
You have to use he "GPS sharing" fonction provided by wm.
I set it to share the GPS on COM4 . The original GPS COM port is COM9.

After that, i start a GPS information software on COM4 and also TOMTOM at the same time.
I have to also be on stationned position ( car stopped :) ).
The fix take less than 35 sec in 95% of the case.


Canope

[ZakMcRofl]

I am usually a sceptic when it comes to those tools but I just installed this (also had to rename Windows/QuickGPS.exe.0409.mui, in my case to QuickGPS.exe.0407.mui for German ROM).
I went outside and I got a fix in about 45 seconds which is unusual for my street. I'll keep an eye on the GPS fix times.

EDIT: I just read what canope wrote and now I'm not so sure if my mind wasn't just playing tricks on me. Debugging the AT commands seems a more scientific method. Could someone do the same for a device like Kaiser or Diamond to check if the upload can be seen there?

[claros]

My italian mui for this QuickGps version

[Death_Skull]

i'am using a portuguese rom any help to put it working ?

[ZakMcRofl]

Yes: go to your windows dir, look for files ending with XXXX.mui.dll to find out what the portuguese number is (XXXX for germany is 0407).
Then copy Windows/QuickGPS.exe.0409.mui to your PC, change 0409 to the ID you found and copy it back.
You can then delete the english QuickGPS.exe.0409.mui if you want.

This will make it appear to work but as canope pointed out it may well be equally useless as all earlier tools for Trinity.

[themaskfly]

hello canope,

u give me a right way to verify it. :D

I enabled both my trinity and diamond.

based on the log file, diamond doesnt show a upload command neither.
I dont know if at log will write down this action.

I can understand why u think the xtra.bin is not uploaded. the SiRF Star chip absorts the packedEphemeris.ee, and the file will disappear in windows root. (based on my knowledge of tomtom one 1)
Somehow Qualcomm chip doesnt act the same way, it leaves xtra.bin in windows root all the time. (based on my test on diamond)

besides, the log file is uploaded, u can see the diamond dont even show at@startgps command after starting a Tomtom:D

[Plastriq]

This tool definitely works. Fix within 30 secs with Google Maps and haven't used GPS on this ROM yet.

[canope]

Hi, can you try this sequence on the diamond, with atdbgcmd on:
- shutdown it;
- start it;
- launch quickgps, update the ephemeris;
- start tomtom or other gps client;
- copy the atdbg file located on /temp to another place;


You will normally see commands like at@setgps.
the at@setgps is hardcoded on the quickgps binary file.



hello canope,

u give me a right way to verify it. :D

I enabled both my trinity and diamond.

based on the log file, diamond doesnt show a upload command neither.
I dont know if at log will write down this action.

I can understand why u think the xtra.bin is not uploaded. the SiRF Star chip absorts the packedEphemeris.ee, and the file will disappear in windows root. (based on my knowledge of tomtom one 1)
Somehow Qualcomm chip doesnt act the same way, it leaves xtra.bin in windows root all the time. (based on my test on diamond)

besides, the log file is uploaded, u can see the diamond dont even show at@startgps command after starting a Tomtom:D

[themaskfly]

Hi, can you try this sequence on the diamond, with atdbgcmd on:
- shutdown it;
- start it;
- launch quickgps, update the ephemeris;
- start tomtom or other gps client;
- copy the atdbg file located on /temp to another place;


You will normally see commands like at@setgps.
the at@setgps is hardcoded on the quickgps binary file.

hello, the log i have uploaded is actually the sequences u demend.

[canope]

Did you have taskmanager on your mobile phone ?
I've noticed something strange on the at command logs.
There is an agpsadress setted.

I'm interrested to know which diamond rom version you have ?


hello, the log i have uploaded is actually the sequences u demend.

[themaskfly]

Did you have taskmanager on your mobile phone ?
I've noticed something strange on the at command logs.
There is an agpsadress setted.

I'm interrested to know which diamond rom version you have ?

yes, i noticed that too. the rom is official RUU_Diamond_HTC_FRA_1.93.406.1_Radio_Signed_Diamon d_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship

at@setgps may have string in QuickGPS code, yet it's on propose for the acient device such as p3300 (SiRF STAR again) which i can recell it's where the first version of quickgps is found. the programmer normally doesnt rewrite the code completely.
another exemple is the log file I have provided, diamond doesnt even have at@startgps which trinity has. different devices have some different AT commands.
For another deep study case, I found the gps tool in the forum, which explain how ＠setgps works (cool, warm, hot, xtra start) just use setgps.exe and restart the device.

One thing I must point out, on the SiRF STAR chip, packedEphemeris.ee is upload automaticly by the code of windows ce, quickgps has nothing coded to do with the upload thing. if you place a packedEphemeris.ee in the windows root (a sirf star chip of cause), modify HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\EE\AcessTime, the packedEphemeris.ee will be uploaded and disappear. :D

[abuzeyad]

Thanx
one Question: Dose it effect Battery?

[canope]

This confirm my feeling.
QuickGPS cannot work on the trinity.
For me, the ephemeris is uploaded by something else.
I think it uploaded by the rilgsm.dll.
This file contain the ril driver specifically made for the device.
So, for me , the rilgsm.dll Diamond's files is in charge of the uploading.

Can you send me back this file for the diamond ?

For your information, i was the first one who have gps fonction on the trinity :).
Check on the forum, you will find my contribution to the trinity :).
I've send the first radio gsm enabled rom and the necessary files ( rilgsm.dll included).
So , for me , the rilgsm il in charge of this actions.



yes, i noticed that too. the rom is official RUU_Diamond_HTC_FRA_1.93.406.1_Radio_Signed_Diamon d_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship

at@setgps may have string in QuickGPS code, yet it's on propose for the acient device such as p3300 (SiRF STAR again) which i can recell it's where the first version of quickgps is found. the programmer normally doesnt rewrite the code completely.
another exemple is the log file I have provided, diamond doesnt even have at@startgps which trinity has. different devices have some different AT commands.
For another deep study case, I found the gps tool in the forum, which explain how @setgps works (cool, warm, hot, xtra start) just use setgps.exe and restart the device.

One thing I must point out, on the SiRF STAR chip, packedEphemeris.ee is upload automaticly by the code of windows ce, quickgps has nothing coded to do with the upload thing. if you place a packedEphemeris.ee in the windows root (a sirf star chip of cause), modify HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\EE\AcessTime, the packedEphemeris.ee will be uploaded and disappear. :D

[claros]

Hi
I don't know if this quickgps works or not, I can't verify because it's snowing and the fix is difficult. My nmea log is about 90kb and after 5 minutes no fix at all...

But inside the package there is a registry key:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS]
"region"="US"


Have you tried to change it to the country you live? And does the server provides information for more than a country?

Ciao

[Carlo626]

I'm no expert and don't know anything about the inner working of a GPS but I tryied the file this morning and in a cloudy day while speeding on a motorway got a fix in 30 sec. (+/-) - haven't used the GPS for over a week before this morning -

I had the same fast fix with the latest PDAMobiz ROM's too so there must be a way to speed up the fix on the trinity and really think that this is it

BTW if is just my mind playing games with me - well I'm happy just as well :-)

thanks a lot to themaskfly for posting this and happy new year to all

[shym]

Hi
I don't know if this quickgps works or not, I can't verify because it's snowing and the fix is difficult. My nmea log is about 90kb and after 5 minutes no fix at all...

But inside the package there is a registry key:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS]
"region"="US"


Have you tried to change it to the country you live? And does the server provides information for more than a country?

Ciao


After install, and verify the registry, i already had my région without change it :

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS]
"region"="FR"


Thx :)

[williamm0811]

This program really does work! When I used the original HTC Radio ROM 1.46, it was very slow to obtain GPS fixes. But after upgrading to radio 1.56.70.11 (my base ROM is still the original WM6.0 WWE version 3.00.707.18) and installing QuickGPS (with corrected region to download the right data) fixes are now obtained very quickly from a cold start. That is compared to many occasions of waiting about 20 minutes prior to installing this software.

I did have to change the region in the registry [HKLM] - Software\HTC\QuickGPS\region because when I installed it, the default region was the US which also initially accounted for some slow fix times until corrected.

[zoko]

i try to install this cab but he wont to start! said that missed a certificate! or something like that i have a cooked WM 6.1 ROM! can anybody help me!??!

[semis0nic]

i try to install this cab but he wont to start! said that missed a certificate! or something like that i have a cooked WM 6.1 ROM! can anybody help me!??!

same error..posted screenshot here.

[trebiani]

i try to install this cab but he wont to start! said that missed a certificate! or something like that i have a cooked WM 6.1 ROM! can anybody help me!??!

I get the error: "Failed to create empty document"

Rom Version: 1.23.407.2 (original HTC) Windows Mobile 5.0

[mesee]

PUSH

any news to that cab?

[amenatis]

i try to install this cab but he wont to start! said that missed a certificate! or something like that i have a cooked WM 6.1 ROM! can anybody help me!??!

Exactly same error on my own rom 21109 :confused:

[aalim]

I confirm this version with xtra.bin downloaded gives a fast fix

After a hard reset i got a GPS fix with Garmin in less than 20 sec.

Normally i get it in more than a minute

so Trinity does support A-GPS

Thanks for solving this debate

[rockuman_ex]

i tried this, and i didn't see any improvement??? :confused:

As a matter of fact, it's slower with my tomtom 7 :o

[harling]

I get the error: "Failed to create empty document"

Rom Version: 1.23.407.2 (original HTC) Windows Mobile 5.0

you should rename the file "QuickGPS.exe.0409.mui" according to your rom version, e.g. *.0407.mui for Germany - that will help

[Fernbedienung]

I switched from tomtom to igo and there I have a real fast gps fix without any need of quickgps fix installed at all since the fix is always less then 30secs. Is it just me or someone else noticed this as well? Even tho it might be always a "warm" start since I kinda most of the time start the phone/navigation close to the position I closed it.

[sp00ky]

I confirm this version with xtra.bin downloaded gives a fast fix

After a hard reset i got a GPS fix with Garmin in less than 20 sec.

Normally i get it in more than a minute

so Trinity does support A-GPS

Thanks for solving this debate


signing this .... working apps ... :)

[aalim]

Sadly i have received an email from HTC official support in response to my inquiry saying that

HTC trinity DOES NOT support A-GPS

thus all software we are using are only illusions.....???

[diogoquintao]

Is this app uninstalable?
Thanks
DQ

[chanvi93]

Sadly i have received an email from HTC official support in response to my inquiry saying that

HTC trinity DOES NOT support A-GPS

thus all software we are using are only illusions.....???

Hahaha 2 years ago i have also received an email from HTC official support tell me than Trinity can't support Wm 6.0 but only wm5.0

[Make My Day!]

One Question?

Why you all need quck gps?

My Trinity have gps (Cold start) 30 sec (after reset or something like that)
and (warm start) 5 sec

also why somebody need Qucik GPS????????????????????????????

[zenga]

i'am using a portuguese rom any help to put it working ?

For Portuguese users change to 0816

[emvsantos]

For Portuguese users change to 0816

Thanks.
But even with this change i've got a screen msg saying that coldn't not start de application Quickgps.exe :(

[zenga]

Thanks.
But even with this change i've got a screen msg saying that coldn't not start de application Quickgps.exe :(

Yes i know.
Same thing happened to me.
Still not working

[diogoquintao]

I've installed the app.
Aparently it worked correctly, but i haven't seen any improvements. In fact it took more time than usual to get a fix.

[John-Wu]

I've installed the app.
Aparently it worked correctly, but i haven't seen any improvements. In fact it took more time than usual to get a fix.

i also think that this app doesnt work for trinity. i dont see any improvements. Without this app, i also sometimes get quicker fix than other times. I thinks i depends on where you are.

@all who thinks it works:
do you test many times in different places and always get the same time to get a fix?

[harling]

Hi all,
I also unfortunately think it has no effect here on my P3600. It downloads the file into the windows directory, there it stays, but with Tomtom7 I have no enhancement of a quicker time to first fix.
I heared of a folder named "ephem" that should exist on some Tomtoms - could it be necessary to put the file in such a folder on my SD card?
How should Tomtom know that I have the data on my P3600?
Greetings
Christian

[savesaint]

no improvements for my trinity :(

[prokton]

it work's very good!!
before i had to wait about 5mnts to get gps signal. with this app it's < 10sec. after soft-reset.

i had some problems with the install. but i figured it out.

portugal= "quickgps.exe.0816.mui"

thank you for the good work.

[dave01]

i try to install this cab but he wont to start! said that missed a certificate! or something like that i have a cooked WM 6.1 ROM! can anybody help me!??!

same problem with my room, is there any news about this?

Dave

[tedkopp]

Hello everyone,
first merry x-mas. :p

I spended a whole afternoon to find the accelerator of GPS for my trinity.

on the forum, there are three tools exist:

1. QGPS from http://www.avaricum.net/qgps.cab
2. SeaSGEE
3. a modified QuickGPS from P3300

QGPS is unique FOR HP DEVICE, SeaSGEE and the QuickGPS from P3300 are FOR SiRF Star chips which download a "packedEphemeris.ee" to the windows root.

It's been a misunderstood on this forum that many members think that trinity has a SiRF Star Chips.

But, as a matter of factor, what's in trinity is a Qualcomm gpsONE chipset. (qualcomm 6280). And the right satellite map file for qualcomm chipset is "xtra.bin".

So actually, trinity MUST use the same QuickGPS as Kaiser or Diamond which use the same Qualcomm BRAND.

Somehow the quickGPS is coded uniquely for Kaiser or diamond, on trinity it will say connetion failed.

With some luck I found the quickgps.exe cracked for any deviced, version which download xtra.bin instead of packedEphemeris.ee

Tested after a hard reset (so that's sure that will be a cold start of the gps), and the quickgps really works like a charm, tomtom finished his first location within 30 seconds. :D

Hope this will be helpful for all of you. good luck


Just installed the cab, worked like a charm! Thanks

[aalim]

To be able to solve this riddle we need a standardized test

IT NEEDS an EXPERIENCED USER

1st: do a hard reset & measure time for first fix without quickgps (using software like htc GPStool.)
2nd: immediately while in the same place do a hard reset then update using quick gps use same software for fix
3rd: try same procedure in different places & using different trinity devices then we see if there is a significant change.

may be this could help us know whether this improvement is real or an illusion

[ZakMcRofl]

To be able to solve this riddle we need a standardized test

IT NEEDS an EXPERIENCED USER

1st: do a hard reset & measure time for first fix without quickgps (using software like htc GPStool.)
2nd: immediately while in the same place do a hard reset then update using quick gps use same software for fix
3rd: try same procedure in different places & using different trinity devices then we see if there is a significant change.

may be this could help us know whether this improvement is real or an illusion

Actually that method is prone to errors. What if the GPS stores the information it obtained earlier? For proper testing you'd have to wait about 5-10 hours because by then a new "full" GPS lookup will be required. Of course by then other variables like the weather may have changed but still better then your way.

[Carlo626]

i also think that this app doesnt work for trinity. i dont see any improvements. Without this app, i also sometimes get quicker fix than other times. I thinks i depends on where you are.

@all who thinks it works:
do you test many times in different places and always get the same time to get a fix?

I tested in many different part of Italy (as I travel a lot) and always with the same resoult : max 60 sec. to get a first fix compared to not less than 3 min and up to 6 min for first fix without


One Question?

Why you all need quck gps?

My Trinity have gps (Cold start) 30 sec (after reset or something like that)
and (warm start) 5 sec

also why somebody need Qucik GPS????????????????????????????

if you can (really) get such fast fix I'll say that you are very very lucky -what version are you using? 3600i maybe? - or live just under a bunch of satellite :rolleyes:

why somebody needs it? is a question that is beside the point but just to give you an idea; when in a hurry, sitting in a car for five minutes (expecially with other people) just to get the first fix can be "painful" not to mention if you are on foot and need some quick direction on where to go - of course if you never leave your home town or just take the occasional leisure trip it may not be a big deal but in a working enviroments it can make a huge difference

thanks again to themaskfly for the post as this has helped me a lot latelly

[hendrixus]

Iam using Adewit NL ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335321) English version 1.1/1.2(rc2) available.
I had a problem with GPS.
He had switch off the GPS icon
I switch it on again.
Saw that the settings had changed, hardwareport 9, softwareport 4, probely due QuickGPS used from this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310302&highlight=quickgps) and this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415341) on XDA.
I changed the softwareport to "none" and switchoff "managing by windows"
That worked.Fix within 5-10 secs.
See the below Screen shots made inside my livin room next to the window.
VisualGPS (http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/default.htm) give the same results as GPSInfo.TT and Googlemaps give the same results and working great.

Working GPStool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1572125&postcount=15) tested by myself.Simple but effective.

http://i41.tinypic.com/1zj484.jpg

[aamd01]

Thank you for the program

[dorittos]

I dont use TomTom but IGo. It works also with Igo? :confused::confused:

Thanks

[eisbaer82]

I think it works. I have installed this tool a few weeks ago and haven't used GPS since then. At the weekend I got a fix within 30 secs. The tool automaticly downloads the GPS file when my phone is connected to ActiveSync, which is nearly every day.

[fn6193]

Compare before and after install
Result - Too fast to get fix and hard to believe !!!!!
I tried shutdown the phone serveral times and can obtain less than 10 sec fix compare before 2 - 5min.
I think you need to download updated data for QuickGPS and it will work without activate QuickGPS after reboot.

[zoko]

there are any solution for the certificate problem!?!?

[narshorn]

there are any solution for the certificate problem!?!?
Same request here ... would also be interested with a cab without digital sigantures check :)

[John-Wu]

I think it works. I have installed this tool a few weeks ago and haven't used GPS since then. At the weekend I got a fix within 30 secs. The tool automaticly downloads the GPS file when my phone is connected to ActiveSync, which is nearly every day.

hi,

did you change anything in the registry? after install quickGPS and downloaded the data, i cant find any improvements. I think i get slower fix with quickGPS than without ... strage huh?
!

[the-uki]

I have a Kaiser and a Trinity, and confirm this does NOT work on the Trinity.

The Kaiser does a 15s cold fix, Trinity is just as long as before (with French Fanman ROM at least)

Also I test using GPSDash 2, and it doesn't even show the sat positions in advance in the sat map, which Kaiser does. That suggests the positions aren't even loaded to start with.

Any hint anyone?

What about that new ROM that claims AGPS for Trinity - what's that?

[the-uki]

Compare before and after install
Result - Too fast to get fix and hard to believe !!!!!
I tried shutdown the phone serveral times and can obtain less than 10 sec fix compare before 2 - 5min.
I think you need to download updated data for QuickGPS and it will work without activate QuickGPS after reboot.

what ROM and Radio version are you using?

[TrusterX]

you can try to make sure, that this will work:

Run GPSInfo or another tool, that shows the sattelite position, in your living room . you shouldn't see any sattelites. If so, just let GPS offline for seven days. Try the last step again. You can continue whenthere are no sattelites on screen. Make you "QuickFIX". Now check again with GPSInfo. if QuickGPSFix work, you should see the sattelite on Position. if not, it just won't work

[John-Wu]

i just wonder why it works on someone device and on other not. Do we have different trinitys? or what is the reason for this?

i can download the data in quickGPS, but dont see any improvements. Please can all of you, who think quickGPS works post your using Rom and Radio Rom so we can compare?

thanks alot,
john

[queer~dude]

Well, probably the reason why i don't think it work like a charm, because i am in HK....am haven't been tried out of any places yet.....

[dave01]

i try to install this cab but he wont to start! said that missed a certificate! or something like that i have a cooked WM 6.1 ROM! can anybody help me!??!

Hi,

At it was indecated to me by a member, try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3371393&postcount=271

It worked for me.

best regards,

[mjansma]

Worked Perfectly for me.

Before QuickGPS install over 20 minutes until reception, now after install first "Can't create file", changed file name for German Rom, restarted again, and signal within seconds.

Perfect, thanks a lot for this.

[eucurto]

I can also confirm that its faster now to have GPS signal from cold.

One thing i don't get: When i installed the first thing i have done was to go to the registry to check the "region" and it had "US" so as i am in Portugal i changed it to "PT" then soft reset and started QuickGPS pressed the "Download" button and nothing happened. So i went back to the "US" region, soft reset, started QuickGPS, Download and it downloaded the file. Then i when to registry again and the region is set to "--". What this means??? Should the region be written in dashes: "PT"?

[jonter]

hmm there is one thing that came to my mind...

if you start a application that uses gps and get signal,the gps will remember for 4 houers this positon.

what i want to say: when you start an gps app and count the minutes it needs to get gps signal and then install quck gps and then you count the minutes, you will see that gps is faster, but not becouse of quick gps.

so you have to wait 4 hours after the first time you got gps signal to test quick gps

(correct me if i m wrong)

[the-uki]

One Question?

Why you all need quck gps?

My Trinity have gps (Cold start) 30 sec (after reset or something like that)
and (warm start) 5 sec

also why somebody need Qucik GPS????????????????????????????

Quick GPS normally is supposed to give you a fix within 10 to 15 seconds.

it's important. If you're in a city with tall buildings driving out of the parking garage, you want to know quickly where to go, not wait for fix

[Neo_Reloaded]

Solved certificate problem with VerInfo.dll from here:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3371393&postcount=271

Just copy the dll to the windows folder.

Thanks dave01.

[hendrixus]

I am still using my own solution (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3328644&postcount=48) which works great.

[cwyqiyu]

Thanks. It works

[the-uki]

When I had a Kaiser I discovered that proper feeding of Ephemiris data to the GPS chip also depended upon the Radio Rom used - with some it worked, with some others it did not. In fact, for WM61 it only worked with one particular radio rom that ran only on a hybrid WM61 rom. In the end I ended up reverting back to the original ROM and Radio for the Kaiser, WM60, because even the official upgrade to WM61 was much slower to fix with QuickGPS data.

so, did anyone consider investigating the Trinity radio ROM as well?

[mac_es]

When I had a Kaiser I discovered that proper feeding of Ephemiris data to the GPS chip also depended upon the Radio Rom used - with some it worked, with some others it did not. In fact, for WM61 it only worked with one particular radio rom that ran only on a hybrid WM61 rom. In the end I ended up reverting back to the original ROM and Radio for the Kaiser, WM60, because even the official upgrade to WM61 was much slower to fix with QuickGPS data.

so, did anyone consider investigating the Trinity radio ROM as well?

Also, post your rilgsm.dll. This file goes in OEM section of the kitchen so it is not updated frequently

[Loomer]

Doesn't work for me. Tested many times. Cold start - 1,5-2 minutes with and without this software.

[ZakMcRofl]

In conclusion I would say that most "its working" claims stem from the fact that people do not understand how to test it properly.

Once again the correct testing procedure:
GPS data is valid for 4 hours and retained throughout hard resets.

Try this:
1) Measure TTF without QuickGPS
2) Wait 24h (4h would be enough in theory)
3) Measure TTF with QuickGPS

So many people skip step 2) or replace it with a soft/hard reset that does not affect the GPS at all.
If you find any method that produces measurable differences (repeatedly) using the above methology, please report it here.