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slob13
1st January 2009, 07:59 PM
Hi, does someone meet HARD-SPL for Treo pro?
Even if somebody cook rom without Hard-spl we will not be able to Flash it! :(

berdinkerdickle
1st January 2009, 11:04 PM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3057856&postcount=25

cmonex is working on it.

slob13
2nd January 2009, 12:09 PM
Thanks. :)

berdinkerdickle
8th January 2009, 04:40 AM
cmonex made some big progress last night.
I will continue to help.

But, out of curiosity, who is interested in a custom rom, and who would like HardSpl for their Panther?

It just seems there hasn't been a lot of activity over here, and I wonder if it's worth cmonex to continue.

theonetruecoco
8th January 2009, 01:44 PM
Count me in!
I ll be a guinea pig (literally since I am Italian and an MP lol) since I have a back up phone...


cmonex made some big progress last night.
I will continue to help.

But, out of curiosity, who is interested in a custom rom, and who would like HardSpl for their Panther?

It just seems there hasn't been a lot of activity over here, and I wonder if it's worth cmonex to continue.

jbcross
8th January 2009, 02:37 PM
Me Too !!

Count me in!
I ll be a guinea pig

slob13
8th January 2009, 06:55 PM
cmonex made some big progress last night.
I will continue to help.

But, out of curiosity, who is interested in a custom rom, and who would like HardSpl for their Panther?

It just seems there hasn't been a lot of activity over here, and I wonder if it's worth cmonex to continue.

+1 :) me too!

aevries
8th January 2009, 07:42 PM
me too. I have a dutch ROM and want WWE. I bought Agenda One and for you good work I am prepared to give you the license code.

jiribeador
9th January 2009, 05:27 PM
+1!! count me in too!!

oVan
12th January 2009, 10:17 AM
Count me too +1

jazzrich9
24th January 2009, 11:36 PM
+1 more. Just came from a kaiser to the treo, and I'm really looking forward to getting under the hood.

prucat
25th January 2009, 01:58 AM
me too... from hermes to treo pro!

operators
1st February 2009, 11:52 PM
+1!

Please,
make a hard-spl for Treo Pro!

dido384
4th February 2009, 12:36 AM
count me in too

lcohen999
6th February 2009, 09:45 PM
+1..if it actually mattered

seatofish
8th February 2009, 02:58 PM
1 more. Just waiting for you comex

neckleptic
9th February 2009, 12:58 PM
me to! +1.

greetings

BadTasteUK
15th February 2009, 05:25 PM
+1...

...I'd love to see a Rom for the Treo Pro too.

NucleusMS
18th February 2009, 10:36 AM
+1 count me in

slob13
18th February 2009, 10:37 AM
Hi! Again may be a donation help to do a hard spl. ;) sorry but I really need hard-spl to change rom in to English.

jiribeador
19th February 2009, 02:17 AM
I'm also willing to give a donation if we have a hard spl english unbloated unbraded rom!!
come one guys help us out!!!

if there's anyone that can do it.. its you!!

Soul_Est
28th February 2009, 05:03 AM
I would like to create a HardSPL but only for experience (put those wallets away!) and to help out all of you who want to cook/flash/use custom ROMs on their Panthers (I SAID PUT THEM AWAY!). I just need to be pointed in the right direction. Searching only revealed this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477517. Starting point for HardSPL research & development?

slob13
1st March 2009, 09:11 PM
I'm happy that somebody try to help, I think we can try. If you need a help I will try to help you. :-)

jsp_m
2nd March 2009, 06:29 PM
is it happening yet or is this a "me-too" thread?

codyppc
3rd March 2009, 01:25 AM
bell released there version of the treo pro last week. alltel released there's today (i think). sprint is suppose to release theres march 11th-15th.

i feel that even though there isn't a lot of action right now, there will be a lot in a short time. palm hasn't released it with a carrier until now. things are going to get busy soon. at least i hope so.

good luck on the hard spl.

cody

bnycastro
5th March 2009, 06:23 AM
I wouldn't mind testing custom ROMS on my GTP :)

Crowdawg54
5th March 2009, 05:30 PM
I would be very interested in a version of the ROM released with the STP, especially since it will have PocketIE 6.5.

seatofish
9th March 2009, 09:56 AM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334667

shufflez
21st March 2009, 05:05 PM
+1! :)

Official, unbranded Palm Treo Pro, directly from Palm :).
And i have a redundant Blackberry 8900 (with some HTC's too), so don't spare me ;).

Soul_Est
22nd March 2009, 12:17 AM
I'm happy that somebody try to help, I think we can try. If you need a help I will try to help you. :-)

Thanks slob13 for offering. I'm working on getting it disassembled but it's not going through yet.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334667

Thanks seatofish for the link. This will help me quite a bit.

Please note that I don't personally own a Treo Pro and that I'm kind of driving blind on this project.

nitty917
22nd March 2009, 07:28 AM
Yes Custom roms would be sweet!
Someone cooking a Manila 2d style rom would be lovely!

lcohen999
2nd April 2009, 05:24 PM
:) i guess this is DOA?

imzkng
3rd April 2009, 06:37 PM
I'm not holding out much hope for this either. I do agree that Manila 2D in Rom would be great......

fungflex
4th April 2009, 02:23 AM
sadly, I gave up on the community for this device. It seems that the community never really picked up this device. I for one bought this phone as soon as it was available.

I would love a custom rom though, love to played with cooked roms.

cjmedina
4th April 2009, 07:32 AM
i will donate 10usd to get a working hardspl for the sprint treo pro

tramuyo
12th April 2009, 11:05 PM
i think HardSPL development is stopped as Xperia unlock and TouchHD unlock...

bad thing:(

smisik
14th April 2009, 09:03 PM
that's sad. But I expected this when I bought my Treo Pro and with HTC hermes being my previous device it's really noticable that the community arround treo pro isn't that big. I guess it's also down to fact that treo pro is aimed more for bussines users and most of them aren't really enthusiast which would support such community. I really really hope that palm will release wm 6.5 once is out

leog64
13th May 2009, 05:40 AM
I just got two treo pro, both gsm and would like to see a custom ROM, especially m2d. willing to experiment with hard spl

NightRaven
11th June 2009, 12:49 AM
I have built a 6.5 rom for the Treo Pro, but I have no way to flash it! I know there is no hard-spl for the Treo Pro, but someone said you only need it if you are flashing the radio. The question becomes how do I go about creating a hard-spl for the Treo Pro? I will dump the current SPL on Monday night, but I have no idea how to modify it.

bovane
16th June 2009, 11:10 PM
+1
I'm in too! Your awesome for doing this for everyone!! Please let me know when its done!

Treo Pro

htc_hao
17th June 2009, 03:56 PM
:)hi...I know this SPL(0.59.2000) can flash new rom...?
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jack411
19th June 2009, 07:11 AM
I have built a 6.5 rom for the Treo Pro, but I have no way to flash it! I know there is no hard-spl for the Treo Pro, but someone said you only need it if you are flashing the radio. The question becomes how do I go about creating a hard-spl for the Treo Pro? I will dump the current SPL on Monday night, but I have no idea how to modify it.

how do you load the SPL to you phone?
i hate to sound new but i'd like to rebuild the EFS of my treo pro
and i hear that flashing the radio is one way of doing it?
is this true? my efs is shot to hell due to tinker with workshop.
workshop is a great tool but i think i did something wrong and now i can't
see the EFS in any EFS browser.

thanks.
this is not a highjacking i think it's all related.

to0
19th June 2009, 05:30 PM
The EFS isn't browsable in any modern HTC phone.

jack411
19th June 2009, 08:48 PM
The EFS isn't browsable in any modern HTC phone.

thanks but yes it is.
does anyone know how to load or split the radio file from the rom?
i've used QMAT but it does not split it correctly for the treo pro.

to0
19th June 2009, 09:26 PM
thanks but yes it is.


What were you able to browse it with?

jack411
20th June 2009, 11:43 PM
What were you able to browse it with?

QPST, QMAT, bitpim...
you can't see everything but it is browsable.

excoyote
23rd June 2009, 02:56 AM
cmonex made some big progress last night.
I will continue to help.

But, out of curiosity, who is interested in a custom rom, and who would like HardSpl for their Panther?

It just seems there hasn't been a lot of activity over here, and I wonder if it's worth cmonex to continue.


Count me too, I need SPA and have WWE. thanks

jimmydu3
23rd June 2009, 03:42 PM
im in too...i think this would also have alot more tread on treocentral forums.

rviqueira
23rd June 2009, 11:59 PM
I'm in! I got plenty of devices.

gksmithlcw
25th June 2009, 04:50 AM
I want custom ROMs and I'm a developer willing to put forth effort... I just have no clue where to start...

I have the kitchen but I don't know where to get the ROMs and apps and whatnot and I have no idea what to do with them to cook a ROM package.

polobreaka
25th June 2009, 07:57 PM
bump this up!

khalaan
25th June 2009, 08:32 PM
polobreaka,
I'm not sure that was actually necessary...

polobreaka
26th June 2009, 07:33 AM
so it looks like this isnt happening huh?

khalaan
26th June 2009, 02:38 PM
Oh no, it is happening, don't worry.

gksmithlcw
2nd July 2009, 09:37 AM
Oh no, it is happening, don't worry.

You give me hope! Please elaborate. :)

mccune
13th July 2009, 04:20 PM
Would really get myself started on a custom ROM for the Treo Pro.
Have some experience with the O.R.D.E. Project for the HTC Diamond.

Have no idea why the Pro lacks so much attention. It's such a great device!

Please post in case there are any updates on this subject ;)

to0
17th July 2009, 05:43 PM
We need a hard SPL, which is a lot of work. I'll bet a donation drive would speed things up...

iLLa
19th July 2009, 06:51 PM
i been reading tons of threads about pro's for the last few weeks. the reason the pro didnt have a high demand is because of poor marketing. a lot of users are now getting them because their old devices crapped out and they are due for upgrades. if you call any sprint store chances are low that they even have the pro in stock. im not sure if that is because they are going like hot cakes or if they are just pushing the pre. i would like to think its because of the higher demand and people like me who prefer wm over pos and web os.

trust me when i say there is a high demand for hardspl for the pro. just read around, people want 6.5 on their pros. i want 6.5 and want to get rid of bloating. i want to customize my stuff. i dont want to go through the pain of doing a hard reset and redo all my settings and apps, everytime something bad happens from when i install a bad app that renders my phone useless.

iLLa
19th July 2009, 08:34 PM
im new to this stuff so i dont understand everything fully yet.

the thing i dont understand is why we need hard spl.

why cant we use a program similar to cdma workshop, qpst, qdxm, futuredial rn-rms or futuredial icss (even though the these say they dont support the pro on their supported phones list)?

tramuyo
25th July 2009, 02:52 AM
i have Treo Pro 850 MFG SPL... Maybe could work for something, working on sim-unlock, custom ROMs...?

to0
25th July 2009, 05:38 AM
im new to this stuff so i dont understand everything fully yet.

the thing i dont understand is why we need hard spl.

why cant we use a program similar to cdma workshop, qpst, qdxm, futuredial rn-rms or futuredial icss (even though the these say they dont support the pro on their supported phones list)?

And how would you propose we use a PST/NV editor to remove the code from HTC's bootloader that verifies that the ROM we are attempting to flash is (a) signed and (b) provided by the carrier that the phone was purchased from? We need a new SPL to remove those checks.

I'm going to start working on this. I've always said that it's better to do something yourself rather than wait around for someone else to do it for you. I don't doubt the usual peoples' abilities at all, I'd just imagine they're sick of being bothered with devices that they have no interest in.

Here we go!

PS: CRAACCKKK SQUADD!!

iLLa
25th July 2009, 09:11 PM
im just learning about this stuff so i dont know how everything works. is there anyway to stop the phone from looking at the the part checks to see if a rom is compatable? is it just a simple thing looking for the signature, from our rom and pasting it into the new one? is the check a variable we can just turn off so that it doesnt check for a signature?

to0
25th July 2009, 10:35 PM
im just learning about this stuff so i dont know how everything works. is there anyway to stop the phone from looking at the the part checks to see if a rom is compatable? is it just a simple thing looking for the signature, from our rom and pasting it into the new one? is the check a variable we can just turn off so that it doesnt check for a signature?

And that's what a hard SPL solution does. The SPL is the first thing loaded when you power on the device and the code for the signature checking and such is located in there. We need to replace that SPL with an SPL that we've patched to turn those variables off.

iLLa
27th July 2009, 09:19 AM
that answers my questions. i guess we will just have to hope someone likes treo pro enough to make a hard spl.

to0
27th July 2009, 07:26 PM
I like it enough. It's just a matter of me learning now. Someone might beat me to it, but I'm going to do all I can in the meantime.

AkiraX123
27th July 2009, 09:06 PM
hey guys, new to xda and this forum. I've been looking into creating a custom rom for my palm treo pro and from what it sounds like, we need HARD-spl to make any progress..I would like to assist with the development of this project. I have been able to dump the spl from my treo pro, but I don't know what to change in the file. is there anyone that has edited an spl before that can tell me what to look for?

to0
28th July 2009, 12:55 AM
hey guys, new to xda and this forum. I've been looking into creating a custom rom for my palm treo pro and from what it sounds like, we need HARD-spl to make any progress..I would like to assist with the development of this project. I have been able to dump the spl from my treo pro, but I don't know what to change in the file. is there anyone that has edited an spl before that can tell me what to look for?

Are you working on a GSM or CDMA Treo Pro? I'm on a CDMA one but it'd be cooL to see the GSM folks get some help too. Here's a good starting point for developing a patched SPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477517

What we need to do to get this to work is:
- Create a patched SPL.nb file
- Use JumpSPL to load the patched one into RAM/jump into it. This will allow us to flash unsigned code one time.
- Create an NBH of the patched SPL.nb file and flash it with an RUU once we have jumped to our patched SPL in RAM. Our patched SPL is now "permanent."

I'll keep posting my progress here and if you do the same, maybe we can help each other out :cool:.

AkiraX123
28th July 2009, 02:05 AM
Are you working on a GSM or CDMA Treo Pro? I'm on a CDMA one but it'd be cooL to see the GSM folks get some help too. Here's a good starting point for developing a patched SPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477517

What we need to do to get this to work is:
- Create a patched SPL.nb file
- Use JumpSPL to load the patched one into RAM/jump into it. This will allow us to flash unsigned code one time.
- Create an NBH of the patched SPL.nb file and flash it with an RUU once we have jumped to our patched SPL in RAM. Our patched SPL is now "permanent."

I'll keep posting my progress here and if you do the same, maybe we can help each other out :cool:.


COOL thanks toO! I'm on a CDMA pro also. I'll look at the spl tonight and see if there's any hints on what to change in there...I've already dumped the rom and broke it up into .nb. Hopefully I'll have some news for you guys tomorrow ;)

budney
28th July 2009, 08:14 PM
cmonex is on board!

donations are being accepted to get her a GSM TP. I will be sending my CDMA TP to her. :)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541786

acidhax
28th July 2009, 09:17 PM
Ive donated, but, out of curiousity, Will the Sprint CDMA be much different from the Bell?

to0
29th July 2009, 12:09 AM
Ive donated, but, out of curiousity, Will the Sprint CDMA be much different from the Bell?

Nope. It'll be 100% compatible.

terraterm
29th July 2009, 01:24 AM
great phone use it for business and pleasure would love to see a custom rom
super kudoos for all taking the time to develop this

we350z
4th August 2009, 03:07 AM
All I can say is - awesome!

cmonex is on board!

donations are being accepted to get her a GSM TP. I will be sending my CDMA TP to her. :)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541786

acidhax
4th August 2009, 05:10 AM
I am eagerly waiting for this as well, i refresh this forum probably 10x a day for an update ;)

mccune
4th August 2009, 11:43 AM
Have a look at dates if post. Refreshing once a week should be enough ;)

Still have my Treo Pro but got A Touch Pro 2 because you can't tweak or flash the Treo that much. Still have it as my backup device.

ThrillHill1
4th August 2009, 05:45 PM
Have a look at dates if post. Refreshing once a week should be enough ;)

Still have my Treo Pro but got A Touch Pro 2 because you can't tweak or flash the Treo that much. Still have it as my backup device.

This is good news! Not to get too off topic, but how do you like the Touch Pro 2? I currently have the Treo Pro & I'm eligible (and have been for quite a few months now) for an upgrade, and I've been saving the upgrade for the TP2. I haven't had a chance to play with one yet so I'm curious if the TouchFlo 3D is much improved, overall responsiveness, etc. I've read other reviews about the phone, but I feel I can get a more "hands-on" review from an owner.

mccune
4th August 2009, 11:33 PM
The Touch Pro 2 is really a nice device. Battery and audio are the best I had on a HTC device! I don't like TF3D as it's just a skin of a lot of basic tasks that are already in WinMo.
I also need my appointments as well as tasks on my screen HERE (http://mccune.nl/huidige-toestel-layouts) you can see an example of my screen layouts on my devices.

It's in Dutch put the pictures speak for themself.

Now back on topic ;)

osirisHTC
7th August 2009, 03:48 AM
But, out of curiosity, who is interested in a custom rom, and who would like HardSpl for their Panther?

Would be great !

osirisHTC
19th October 2009, 05:35 AM
Looks like this is coming to fruition.

http://www.ppcgeeks.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1243554&postcount=62

The Hard-SPL for the GSM Treo Pro is to be released in a few days !

resinis
20th October 2009, 10:14 AM
ive just put wm6.5.1 on my cdma treo pro. video streaming is awesome now, it works soooo good. orb makes my phone into a full satellite tv!

and iexplorer is much improved too. still not fun browsing the web on this size screen, but at least its doable now.

and im coming from a treo 800w... let me just say one thing, its nice to have an external speaker that works.

erenken
20th October 2009, 08:59 PM
donations are being accepted to get her a GSM TP. I will be sending my CDMA TP to her.

I have a GSM Treo Pro that I could send. I would just like it back when the SPL is created as I would like to update it to 6.5.

Eric

travis.garrison
25th October 2009, 07:40 PM
Hey can anyone running the CDMA Windows Mobile 6.5 tell me if Microsoft changed the alarm function so that A- it repeats the alarm sound instead of playing just once and B- Enabled the use of MP3's in the alarm? The 6.1 version does not allow mp3's ... I find that absolutely stupid because Windows Mobile 6+ in the Standard version does allow mp3 use if you put it in the Application Data\Sounds\ folder.

resinis
28th October 2009, 01:07 AM
im running one of MatBee's roms- http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=92476

that is the latest one. i have an earlier version, but absolutely, YES, you can play mp3's as the alarm and it repeats. i just had it go off and play Too Experienced from barrington levy. it played all the way through and even started again as soon as the song was over. apparently it will continue to sound off until the battery dies:p