[ROM] [WWE] [GSM] [28-Oct-09] NATF's v4 Final WM6.1 TP ROMs

[CR7KB24]

Does this mean what I think it does?

I was going to ask if you was going to port 6.5 when the tp2 came out :D

Because it has the same spec "according to engadget" as the touchpro, well other then screen resolution, and the UI on the TP2 is so fluid. So I can only expect it to perform about as well on the touch pro since the tp2 doesnt "supposidly" have any changes when it comes to ram, cpu, and memory size.

The Touch Pro 2 isn't going to be running 6.5, it's going to be running 6.1

[reluttr]

The Touch Pro 2 isn't going to be running 6.5, it's going to be running 6.1

Wait your right... I wonder why it performs so much better then the touch pro then?

[CR7KB24]

Wait your right... I wonder why it performs so much better then the touch pro then?

How do you know it preforms so much better than the Touch Pro?

[garyfunk]

Does this mean what I think it does?

I was going to ask if you was going to port 6.5 when the tp2 came out :D

Because it has the same spec "according to engadget" as the touchpro, well other then screen resolution, and the UI on the TP2 is so fluid. So I can only expect it to perform about as well on the touch pro since the tp2 doesnt "supposidly" have any changes when it comes to ram, cpu, and memory size.
We don't know, as we don't know what you mean. I will guess by 6.5 you refer to Windows Mobile 6.5, so...

Why would anyone wait for what you call 'tp2' to come out to port to Windows Mobile 6.5. Da_G is already building a kitchen for Windows Mobile 6.5. I will bet that when Windows Mobile 6.5 is released Da_G has a stable kitchen within two weeks.

Have you guys seen the videos of the new HTC Touch Pro 2 and Diamond 2, the manila is fantastic and they have added a new start menu, and so many other awesome new features. Natf, you should look into these roms once they come out to porting them to the Fuze and Touch Pro :D

Do you really think he doesn't keep up with what is going on in this site? He's already using Da-G's port of Windows Mobile 6.5 and he's also active in several other threads. He's pretty much keepig up with the leading edge of what can be done.

I really don't understand the illogical reasoning behind many of the posts here.

[reluttr]

@CR7KB24: Because in the video engadget has of the htc rep demoing the phone you can tell the menus are more fluid. I meant TF3D btw :P

@garyfunk: Actually what I meant that he could port the new version of TF3D :P. I previously thought it had the same version as the one on the HD and it was 6.5 causing it to perform better. But going back I noticed that HTC has redone it quite a bit and added new features "like the intergrated start menu and advanced contact menu". Then I noticed that the TP2 and TD2 officially will run 6.1 pro "although they did have a td2 at the booth running 6.5".

[Tofferbear]

Does this mean what I think it does?

I was going to ask if you was going to port 6.5 when the tp2 came out :D

Because it has the same spec "according to engadget" as the touchpro, well other then screen resolution, and the UI on the TP2 is so fluid. So I can only expect it to perform about as well on the touch pro since the tp2 doesnt "supposidly" have any changes when it comes to ram, cpu, and memory size.

I'm not sure it'll be possible to get the TP2 stuff over to the TP or the Fuze. If the TP2 is running WinMo 6.5 then those features were probably built for that and AFAIK you have to key a build of OS to a particular device, so in order to get WinMo 6.5 on a Fuze you'd have to have a Fuze key'd build of WinMo 6.5...and the same for the TP1.

If I'm wrong that's then that's great as I would be very excited to see some of those features on my Fuze. :)

[CR7KB24]

@CR7KB24: Because in the video engadget has of the htc rep demoing the phone you can tell the menus are more fluid. I meant TF3D btw :P

Well that is kinda expected as it is a newer version of TouchFlo

[lemonspeakers]

I agree with you here. TF3D is a bit unresponsive, but the rest of the OS is speedy, which makes little sense. When I say unresponsive, I mean, when I touch launch something, like trying to reply to an SMS or launch an email to read, it takes a while for it to come up.

When I stop using my touch pro for about 10 minutes (obviously because I don't always have it in my hand) and I slide out my keyboard, it takes about 1.5-2 seconds (SLOW) :eek:

Can someone give me some tips on this issue?

How can I speed this up?

I've never had this issue on previous NATF ROMS before! =(

[oaa8]

I'm sure you've heard of this but if not then maybe this could be put into consideration for future ROMs. I tried out the UPX Squeezer BATCH (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481880) from Sir.B in the Blackstone thread and for some programs that I tried this for, the load times decreased drastically. For some, load times were already quick and no difference was noted. For the rest that I tried, they were not yet compressible. Maybe you used this in your older roms, or maybe you do right now, I cant really tell because of my lack of expertise but this could decrease some of the loading times and increase some space.

The batch file is kept as simple as possible for everyone's ease of use
but this is pretty advanced tweaking, so all common warnings apply
and/or
if you are not comfortable with getting files from/to your PocketPC
and/or
can't figure out how to extract this zip and read the "read me.txt"
and/or
don't know what “any key” :) is DO NOT TRY THIS!
(read the forum and the wiki a bit more, and you'll gain the knowledge)
I'm sure you know what "any key" is :D

[hobolooter]

Well I've been a huge fan of the NATF ROMs, and I decided the only thing I could really contribute are custom splash loaders.

NATF: I'm not entirely sure how you feel about the two you included, but I have an alternative for users to flash. Let me know if this is a problem!

The file to flash:
http://www.hobolooter.com/bootscreen/RAPHIMG.nbh

Screenshot:
http://www.hobolooter.com/bootscreen/loader.jpg

[Tofferbear]

NATF: I'm not entirely sure how you feel about the two you included, but I have an alternative for users to flash. Let me know if this is a problem!


very nice work. :)

[marcoaraya]

v4.3 is up! Changelog in Post #2 updated.
First let me tell you this ROM ROCKS! Thanks for all the hard work you've put into it.

[figster63]

Great ROM, just a few bugs to point out. When on the internet or texting, and you get a call at the same time, the screen starts glitching. Also the battery icon sometimes sways from the % one to the full battery below it.

I haven't downloaded the black screen fix, but when I turn my screen on, off, and on within a few seconds, the black screen pops up.

The slider for answering could use a little tweeking. It often glitches to the the side other than a smooth slide. Other than that this is a very efficient and good looking ROM, keep up the good work.

[NotATreoFan]

Well I've been a huge fan of the NATF ROMs, and I decided the only thing I could really contribute are custom splash loaders.

NATF: I'm not entirely sure how you feel about the two you included, but I have an alternative for users to flash. Let me know if this is a problem!

The file to flash:
http://www.hobolooter.com/bootscreen/RAPHIMG.nbh

Screenshot:
http://www.hobolooter.com/bootscreen/loader.jpg

This is what happens when someone who knows how to use Photoshop comes around! ;) If you could modify the screen to Touch Pro Series and remove 4.3 (so I can use it for multiple builds), or send me the PSD, I will gladly use it going forward.

[garyfunk]

This is what happens when someone who knows how to use Photoshop comes around!
And speaking of photo changes...

[matthewjayala]

ok i'm not sure if these question have been asked but i'll go for it.

1) will v5 include windows mobile 6.5?

2) Can can someone develop apps for winmo? i see the ads for the blackberry app development tools on XDA and now with the windows marketplace coming out i would like to know how i could produce apps.

[hobolooter]

This is what happens when someone who knows how to use Photoshop comes around! ;) If you could modify the screen to Touch Pro Series and remove 4.3 (so I can use it for multiple builds), or send me the PSD, I will gladly use it going forward.

Just uploaded the PSD:
http://www.hobolooter.com/bootscreen/splash.psd


2) Can can someone develop apps for winmo? i see the ads for the blackberry app development tools on XDA and now with the windows marketplace coming out i would like to know how i could produce apps.

Probably not the best place to ask... I've been developing Windows Mobile apps since like PPC 2000/2002. If you have limited programming experience I would try working with managed code (using the .NET 3.5 framework). There is a plethera of resources if you search Google. Good luck!

[NotATreoFan]

And speaking of photo changes...

It was time for a refresh.

ok i'm not sure if these question have been asked but i'll go for it.

1) will v5 include windows mobile 6.5?

2) Can can someone develop apps for winmo? i see the ads for the blackberry app development tools on XDA and now with the windows marketplace coming out i would like to know how i could produce apps.

1. Not yet. I'm waiting for a slightly more stable/compatible (VGA) build to surface.

2. I'm sure MS will develop some type of dev kit prior to the official launch of WM6.5.

Just uploaded the PSD:
http://www.hobolooter.com/bootscreen/splash.psd

Thanks.

[wildace408]

quick question. did a quick search but didnt find anything. does anyone know why the data symbol on the status bar will sometimes seem to be almost whited out? Its happened since stock fuze rom/radio and i have seen it on a couple of natf roms and with new radio. Everything seems to work fine. just wondering if it was maybe because data was not used for a certain amount of time. Thanks.

[Mr_Q]

NotATreoFan,

I must admit I like your lite version of this rom, however..
I do not like the customized splash/startup screens..
If Manila would be left of to make it more lite, and upload the cab somewhere else if you want to install in manually, it would be awesame.

The same thing for Opera, if someone would like to install a different version, there is no need for this to be in the rom.

As I am not a cooker myself, I would really appreciate if you are able to remove this stuff.


Some other thing, not that I used Manila but it feels 'unclean', some of the icons from the Manila Progams tab are corrupt / incorrect..


Thanks in advance for your response and the hard work.

[hobolooter]

NotATreoFan,

I must admit I like your lite version of this rom, however..
I do not like the customized splash/startup screens..
If Manila would be left of to make it more lite, and upload the cab somewhere else if you want to install in manually, it would be awesame.

The same thing for Opera, if someone would like to install a different version, there is no need for this to be in the rom.

As I am not a cooker myself, I would really appreciate if you are able to remove this stuff.


Some other thing, not that I used Manila but it feels 'unclean', some of the icons from the Manila Progams tab are corrupt / incorrect..


Thanks in advance for your response and the hard work.

One thing I found was Word 2007 not working. I haven't done much searching on the problem, but it's definitely p. weird.

[novaIS350]

@ Hobolooter, I've made some modifications to your psd. I thought staying true to the HTC green might look a little more "canon" if you will. Tell me what you think. Once again this piece was hobolooter's work, I just replaced some of the colors.158316


edit: It almost has an Xbox360 feel to it.

[NotATreoFan]

quick question. did a quick search but didnt find anything. does anyone know why the data symbol on the status bar will sometimes seem to be almost whited out? Its happened since stock fuze rom/radio and i have seen it on a couple of natf roms and with new radio. Everything seems to work fine. just wondering if it was maybe because data was not used for a certain amount of time. Thanks.

Those icons are the HTC default icons, and every now and then one will sneak through for a few seconds.

One thing I found was Word 2007 not working. I haven't done much searching on the problem, but it's definitely p. weird.

Office is not included in the lite ROMs.

[hobolooter]

@ Hobolooter, I've made some modifications to your psd. I thought staying true to the HTC green might look a little more "canon" if you will. Tell me what you think. Once again this piece was hobolooter's work, I just replaced some of the colors.158316


edit: It almost has an Xbox360 feel to it.

haha go for it. i'd like anyone to make changes. i believe the best part about using a custom rom is we are able to make it what we want. screw what at&t and htc think is best for us.

also i do kind of like the green better :-p

[bpm2000]

@ Hobolooter, I've made some modifications to your psd. I thought staying true to the HTC green might look a little more "canon" if you will. Tell me what you think. Once again this piece was hobolooter's work, I just replaced some of the colors.158316


edit: It almost has an Xbox360 feel to it.

nice! just changed to it! thx both of you.

[hobolooter]

Those icons are the HTC default icons, and every now and then one will sneak through for a few seconds.



Office is not included in the lite ROMs.

right, i installed it via the cab. powerpoint and excel work fine, word just has heart failure when opening and creating new docs.

[bpm2000]

Just tested Word myself and it works fine? I installed via cab on a lite rom as well.

on another note- is anyone using flash/flash lite with opera on this rom?

thx

[hobolooter]

Just tested Word myself and it works fine? I installed via cab on a lite rom as well.

on another note- is anyone using flash/flash lite with opera on this rom?

thx

mind linking that cab or where you found it? tia, i bet my copy just sucks.

[figster63]

How do I remove the ROM? Its acting very glitchy for me and a black screen keeps popping up.

[ssherrill]

NATF,

This ROM is really awesome, and with Gary Funk's UC help, I can reflash and still have everything back up and running within 20 minutes or so.

Haven't noticed this issue posted. When I sync with Windows Mobile Device Center (Vista), I always get a sync error on the first attempt. Then when I resync, it works with no errors. Anybody else seen this or have any ideas?

158362

The sync works the second time, even though I don't close anything on the device or the PC

Thanks,
Stuart

[tadevinney]

Hmmmmmmmm......

I wonder if this is why I could not beam some MP3s over Bluetooth to my cousin's and his fiances' LG [Verizon] phones. But she could send stuff to me.


so there is something missing on this version. Cant be the phone cause stock rom works. and I know it worked at christmas time cause i sent pics to lg vu and they worked then. I believe that was 4.0 I was using at the time. I am available via pm all day if I can assist with anything

Anymore thoughts on this one?

[garyfunk]

Anymore thoughts on this one?
Did it work in 4.2 or 4.1?

[Tofferbear]

NATF,

This ROM is really awesome, and with Gary Funk's UC help, I can reflash and still have everything back up and running within 20 minutes or so.

Haven't noticed this issue posted. When I sync with Windows Mobile Device Center (Vista), I always get a sync error on the first attempt. Then when I resync, it works with no errors. Anybody else seen this or have any ideas?

158362

The sync works the second time, even though I don't close anything on the device or the PC

Thanks,
Stuart

You wouldn't happen to have other devices plugged in would you? Like a Zune or an iPod or even another mobile device?

[oaa8]

NATF,

This ROM is really awesome, and with Gary Funk's UC help, I can reflash and still have everything back up and running within 20 minutes or so.

Haven't noticed this issue posted. When I sync with Windows Mobile Device Center (Vista), I always get a sync error on the first attempt. Then when I resync, it works with no errors. Anybody else seen this or have any ideas?

158362

The sync works the second time, even though I don't close anything on the device or the PC

Thanks,
Stuart

I get this exact error as well. I only get it after I select the synchronization of files. Since I sync files all of my My Documents folder on the phone gets restored but I don't check that on the initial sync or even forget to for a while, but once I select that the error starts popping up again.

[tadevinney]

Did it work in 4.2 or 4.1?

not sure.. didnt stay with either one long enough. 4.0 did work

[garyfunk]

not sure.. didnt stay with either one long enough. 4.0 did work
You could move this closer to a fix if you could tell NATF which verison broke it, that is if you are interested in getting if fixed quickly.

[NotATreoFan]

Anymore thoughts on this one?

The thing is, I cannot send files over Bluetooth, but I can send Pics/Video/MP3s via MMS.

[kahibbi]

I searched and didn't see a fix for two problems I'm having. The first is that 4.3 seems to have a substantial delay from when the phone begins ringing on a caller's phone until the time it actually rings on my phone. I've tested it and it is from 3 to 4 rings that are heard by the caller before my phone rings and vibrates. On my own tests, the calls went to voicemail before I could even answer the phone.

the other issue has to do with answering the phone. The slider disappears after a while. When the phone does actually ring (see above) and shows the incoming caller and the supposed "Answer/Ignore" slider areas, there is actually no slider. The phone cannot be answered. The buttons don't work without the slider, thus leaving the phone useless to try and answer. A soft reset fixes the slider, but it has happened each of the last two days ... had to soft reset to correct the issue.

Any fixes for these items? I hope so; otherwise I'll have to go back down to 3.2 ... for the 3rd time (4.0 introduced GPS/software issues). I like the speed this ROM, but I can't afford to miss calls.

[ssherrill]

You wouldn't happen to have other devices plugged in would you? Like a Zune or an iPod or even another mobile device?

Only my Fuze!

Sounds like it may have something to do with the MyDocuments folder, since I am syncing that.

[sstrunks]

The thing is, I cannot send files over Bluetooth, but I can send Pics/Video/MP3s via MMS.

I don't know if this is any help or relevant to you, but I was able to beam using bluetooth the pimbackup software to a friend's tmobile dash a.k.a. XDA Excalibur.

[NotATreoFan]

I searched and didn't see a fix for two problems I'm having. The first is that 4.3 seems to have a substantial delay from when the phone begins ringing on a caller's phone until the time it actually rings on my phone. I've tested it and it is from 3 to 4 rings that are heard by the caller before my phone rings and vibrates. On my own tests, the calls went to voicemail before I could even answer the phone.

the other issue has to do with answering the phone. The slider disappears after a while. When the phone does actually ring (see above) and shows the incoming caller and the supposed "Answer/Ignore" slider areas, there is actually no slider. The phone cannot be answered. The buttons don't work without the slider, thus leaving the phone useless to try and answer. A soft reset fixes the slider, but it has happened each of the last two days ... had to soft reset to correct the issue.

Any fixes for these items? I hope so; otherwise I'll have to go back down to 3.2 ... for the 3rd time (4.0 introduced GPS/software issues). I like the speed this ROM, but I can't afford to miss calls.

I do not experience these delays. Have you tweaked anything?

I don't know if this is any help or relevant to you, but I was able to beam using bluetooth the pimbackup software to a friend's tmobile dash a.k.a. XDA Excalibur.

I can beam files to my crappy Nokia work cell phone. I just can't beam to LG phones.

[kahibbi]

[QUOTE=NotATreoFan;3342783]I do not experience these delays. Have you tweaked anything?

This is reference to the phone lagging on ringing ... and no, I haven't tweaked anything. I just tested again and this time the phone lit up on ring number two, but did not actualy get to the point of showing a contact and actually ringing and vibrating until ring three.

I have added a few programs, but they are the exact same programs I hvae used before without issue.

Any info on the missing slider, or is that just me too? I guess I could reflash and see what happens. Just ready to stop flashing my phone for a while. With all the mention of the new WM phones coming out in the next few months I'll no doubt be flashing something else besides my Fuze in short order.

[JoeWilcox]

When I use the keyboard on my fuze to say write an email, I still get the stupid black input area that causes massive screw ups while editing. Any idea how to disable this stupid feature for good?

[msuk]

Hello,

Does anyone have the cab file the battery application included in this ROM?

Thanks

[slavany]

I searched and didn't see a fix for two problems I'm having. The first is that 4.3 seems to have a substantial delay from when the phone begins ringing on a caller's phone until the time it actually rings on my phone. I've tested it and it is from 3 to 4 rings that are heard by the caller before my phone rings and vibrates. On my own tests, the calls went to voicemail before I could even answer the phone.

the other issue has to do with answering the phone. The slider disappears after a while. When the phone does actually ring (see above) and shows the incoming caller and the supposed "Answer/Ignore" slider areas, there is actually no slider. The phone cannot be answered. The buttons don't work without the slider, thus leaving the phone useless to try and answer. A soft reset fixes the slider, but it has happened each of the last two days ... had to soft reset to correct the issue.

Any fixes for these items? I hope so; otherwise I'll have to go back down to 3.2 ... for the 3rd time (4.0 introduced GPS/software issues). I like the speed this ROM, but I can't afford to miss calls.

I have the same issue. I remember doing some registry tweeks on my stock ROM that saved me a few seconds during the call but I can't find that post.

[slavany]

I have a problem when I assign any button (i.e. PTT) to manually rotate the screen -- <Rotate Screen> command. I have tried to assign any to other system commands like <Start Menu> or <Today> but it just doen't work. I have "Manually Rotate Screen" checked in the TF3D configuration tool. Anyone experiencing same issue or knows how to solve the problem?

Fuze, v4.3s

[sstrunks]

I can beam files to my crappy Nokia work cell phone. I just can't beam to LG phones.

I have a few friends with LG phones, I can give it a try when I run into them later. Is it with a specific LG model? or all LG phones?

[tadevinney]

I have a few friends with LG phones, I can give it a try when I run into them later. Is it with a specific LG model? or all LG phones?

My findings: ALL Lg Vu and when tested with At&t corp she just told me it wasnt a VU but it was LG..

[Tofferbear]

Only my Fuze!

Sounds like it may have something to do with the MyDocuments folder, since I am syncing that.

I spoke with peer about your problem this morning. He's guessing that there is something like a firewall that has an open handle to some kind of log file that is in your MyDocuments folder, and when you try to sync up WMDC tries to get exclusive access to every file in that folder. If it cannot it throws up an error like the one you're seeing.

Just to make 100% sure that it is syncing up the MyDocuments folder causing the problem, can you setup WMDC to stop syncing it for a day or two to see if the problem goes away?

[msdtra]

[QUOTE=NotATreoFan;3342783]I do not experience these delays. Have you tweaked anything?

This is reference to the phone lagging on ringing ... and no, I haven't tweaked anything. I just tested again and this time the phone lit up on ring number two, but did not actualy get to the point of showing a contact and actually ringing and vibrating until ring three.

I have added a few programs, but they are the exact same programs I hvae used before without issue.

Any info on the missing slider, or is that just me too? I guess I could reflash and see what happens. Just ready to stop flashing my phone for a while. With all the mention of the new WM phones coming out in the next few months I'll no doubt be flashing something else besides my Fuze in short order.



I had the same problems and posted awhile back. Missing Slider and delay in answering with missed calls and don't get some of my calls.

Also, had problems with data connections on V4.3.

I reflashed with V4.2 Which seems to be the best for me. The only issue I have with V4.2 is clock is off sometimes. Its like it drops off network.

[gyverdsm]

I flashed last week from 4.2 to 4.3, and I really like it, its very fast, however is there anyway to disable this slide to answer? I have searched this thread and found only that this is part of the htc dialer now, but it does not work properly for me. I keep losing calls when i slide to answer, and even when I hit the answer button it just stays there saying incoming call/AT&T on the corner but it does not answer the call. I have reflashed this morning and hard reseted thinking it was probably a bad flash.
Any thoughts?

thanks :)

[bpm2000]

mind linking that cab or where you found it? tia, i bet my copy just sucks.

from Da_G's rom page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446652

[datima]

I flashed last week from 4.2 to 4.3, and I really like it, its very fast, however is there anyway to disable this slide to answer? I have searched this thread and found only that this is part of the htc dialer now, but it does not work properly for me. I keep losing calls when i slide to answer, and even when I hit the answer button it just stays there saying incoming call/AT&T on the corner but it does not answer the call. I have reflashed this morning and hard reseted thinking it was probably a bad flash.
Any thoughts?

thanks :)
I had the same problem but put your finger on the slider and slide to answer, not poke it. Works everytime now. I agree with you that 4.3 does rock with some very minor exceptions.

[gyverdsm]

I had the same problem but put your finger on the slider and slide to answer, not poke it. Works everytime now. I agree with you that 4.3 does rock with some very minor exceptions.

but shouldn't it bypass the whole slider deal if you press the physical call button, because even when I do that it will just stay there ringing, very frustrating. 3 out of 5 calls are missed and I have to call them back. I will try pressing and holding the slider more firmly to see what happens. Just wish you could disable this feature since it does not seem to work well, at least not for me.

[nyfuzer]

I recently flashed the V4 rom on my Att fuze and all was well. Untill I connected to my company's exchange server and was required to use a simple PIN code for security. Still no problem, until I reset the device. When I restarted the device the PIN I entered would not work at all!! The only thing I could do at the moment was a hard reset and re install/configure everything again!!

Any Idea why this is happening or if there is a way around it?

I did notice on the 4th install that if I changed the PIN before the reset it would keep.

[Tofferbear]

I recently flashed the V4 rom on my Att fuze and all was well. Untill I connected to my company's exchange server and was required to use a simple PIN code for security. Still no problem, until I reset the device. When I restarted the device the PIN I entered would not work at all!! The only thing I could do at the moment was a hard reset and re install/configure everything again!! any Idea why this is happening or if there is a way around it? I did notice on the 4th install that I I changed the PIN before the reset it would keep.

Hmmm, I have the same setup using my company's corp exchange server and it enforces to set up a simple PIN code, but I've never had any problems with it whatsoever. By the time I set it up though, I've completely finsihed with the NATF ROM install and the Fuzeberry install...setting up e-mail is one of the last things I do, but once I setup the PIN it's never failed to work for me.

I'm not entirely sure what you meant by the "on the 4th install" statement, can you explain it a bit more?

Is it possible you typed in the PIN wrong?

[hobolooter]

from Da_G's rom page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446652

Yeah that did it. Thanks a bunch man!

[garyfunk]

I searched and didn't see a fix for two problems I'm having. The first is that 4.3 seems to have a substantial delay from when the phone begins ringing on a caller's phone until the time it actually rings on my phone. I've tested it and it is from 3 to 4 rings that are heard by the caller before my phone rings and vibrates. On my own tests, the calls went to voicemail before I could even answer the phone.

the other issue has to do with answering the phone. The slider disappears after a while. When the phone does actually ring (see above) and shows the incoming caller and the supposed "Answer/Ignore" slider areas, there is actually no slider. The phone cannot be answered. The buttons don't work without the slider, thus leaving the phone useless to try and answer. A soft reset fixes the slider, but it has happened each of the last two days ... had to soft reset to correct the issue.

Any fixes for these items? I hope so; otherwise I'll have to go back down to 3.2 ... for the 3rd time (4.0 introduced GPS/software issues). I like the speed this ROM, but I can't afford to miss calls.

I don't have an answer for your problem, but something that might help is to set the 'Call Forwarding time' higher. That might help you miss less calls.

[ITNV]

I searched and didn't see a fix for two problems I'm having. The first is that 4.3 seems to have a substantial delay from when the phone begins ringing on a caller's phone until the time it actually rings on my phone. I've tested it and it is from 3 to 4 rings that are heard by the caller before my phone rings and vibrates. On my own tests, the calls went to voicemail before I could even answer the phone.



Try DiamondTweak. I was having the same problem - phone wouldn't even light up until the second ring and then the ring wouldn't start until the third. I installed DiamondTweak and changed Ring Type to "Without Delay" and now it lights up on or before the first ring and starts ringing on or before the second.

[silenthatred]

[QUOTE=NotATreoFan;3342783]I do not experience these delays. Have you tweaked anything?

This is reference to the phone lagging on ringing ... and no, I haven't tweaked anything. I just tested again and this time the phone lit up on ring number two, but did not actualy get to the point of showing a contact and actually ringing and vibrating until ring three.

I have added a few programs, but they are the exact same programs I hvae used before without issue.

Any info on the missing slider, or is that just me too? I guess I could reflash and see what happens. Just ready to stop flashing my phone for a while. With all the mention of the new WM phones coming out in the next few months I'll no doubt be flashing something else besides my Fuze in short order.

My phone has the delay and it is still stock, so I don't think the ROM is the issue. In fact, that's one of the things that got me looking for a new rom. Guess I have to live with it. :(

Edit: Or maybe not looking at the above post! Gonna try it out!

[oaa8]

but shouldn't it bypass the whole slider deal if you press the physical call button, because even when I do that it will just stay there ringing, very frustrating. 3 out of 5 calls are missed and I have to call them back. I will try pressing and holding the slider more firmly to see what happens. Just wish you could disable this feature since it does not seem to work well, at least not for me.
You can disable it by enabling the default dialer in Advanced Config but that disables the whole htc dialer.
Edit: It's actually phone skin. To disable HTC's select disable.

[nyfuzer]

By the 4th try I mean that I had to do a Hard Reset and re-install everything 4 times actually I'm on my 6th, and will be disabling the security pin to avoide the issue..

I definitely am using the right PIN. It actually will work fine if the phone locks without being reset. I can use the pin and it works everytime, until the phone resets or is rebooted.

[garyfunk]

I recently flashed the V4 rom on my Att fuze and all was well. Untill I connected to my company's exchange server and was required to use a simple PIN code for security. Still no problem, until I reset the device. When I restarted the device the PIN I entered would not work at all!! The only thing I could do at the moment was a hard reset and re install/configure everything again!!

Any Idea why this is happening or if there is a way around it?

I did notice on the 4th install that if I changed the PIN before the reset it would keep.
Is this pin to get into exchange or the security pin to get into your phone. You don't do a very good job explaining the problem.

[Smalls2]

Is this pin to get into exchange or the security pin to get into your phone. You don't do a very good job explaining the problem.

+1 sounds like exchange security policy to me.

[chadster214]

First of all, Thank you NATF for this awesome ROM. I'm currently using 4.3 and I come across a bug. when I use a pin lock on my Fuze the Lock Device feature on the Long End Key doesn't work. is there a fix for this? I remember when I was using a stock Fuze ROM I can use both at the same time.

[NotATreoFan]

I hope to have v4.4 out by this coming weekend. I've been crazy-busy (I hate that term, but it applies here) with work and I'm also in the process of buying my first house. The latter of the two is chewing up several hours a day all by itself...

[FUZE_User]

Hey guys, quick question.
Upon installing NATF's ROM, It said that I had to download the HARD-SPL & Install that first which I did. However at the end it states
"do not use this RUU for anything other than SPL flashing (i.e. hardspl or stock spl restore)!!! if you want to flash some other rom, then use customruu " so does that mean that I have to install customruu or just install NATF alone since I already installed the HARD-SPL

Thanks,
FUZE_USER

[ssherrill]

I spoke with peer about your problem this morning. He's guessing that there is something like a firewall that has an open handle to some kind of log file that is in your MyDocuments folder, and when you try to sync up WMDC tries to get exclusive access to every file in that folder. If it cannot it throws up an error like the one you're seeing.

Just to make 100% sure that it is syncing up the MyDocuments folder causing the problem, can you setup WMDC to stop syncing it for a day or two to see if the problem goes away?

'Twould seem that it is indeed something in MyDocuments. I unchecked the option to synchronize documents, and the error didn't happen on the first sync after I connected the Fuze to the PC.

Glad it's nothing more serious,
Stuart

[DrzNight]

I hope to have v4.4 out by this coming weekend. I've been crazy-busy (I hate that term, but it applies here) with work and I'm also in the process of buying my first house. The latter of the two is chewing up several hours a day all by itself...

Sounds great although I'm not sure what could possibly be fixed since this rom is running super great. Congrats on the house and thanks for all the help you have give us even while in the middle of a big moment in your life:rolleyes:.

[DrzNight]

Hey guys, quick question.
Upon installing NATF's ROM, It said that I had to download the HARD-SPL & Install that first which I did. However at the end it states
"do not use this RUU for anything other than SPL flashing (i.e. hardspl or stock spl restore)!!! if you want to flash some other rom, then use customruu " so does that mean that I have to install customruu or just install NATF alone since I already installed the HARD-SPL

Thanks,
FUZE_USER

When you download NATF's rom just run the RaphaelWrapper.exe included in the file and you should be fine. To avoid any confusion just delete the file containing all of the HARD-SPL stuff. The customruu used to run hard-spl is special hence the warning.

[garyfunk]

I hope to have v4.4 out by this coming weekend. I've been crazy-busy (I hate that term, but it applies here) with work and I'm also in the process of buying my first house. The latter of the two is chewing up several hours a day all by itself...
Congratulations. Now you are in for a whole new set of problems. Owning a home is the best investment you can make. I'm on my third and love it.

[drugusv]

hi, i cant receive files over bluetooth (pictures and mp3s) from others phones ex. nokia . help please.



:))))))))



i forgot to enable "Receive all incoming beems" :))))))))))

[FUZE_User]

When you download NATF's rom just run the RaphaelWrapper.exe included in the file and you should be fine. To avoid any confusion just delete the file containing all of the HARD-SPL stuff. The customruu used to run hard-spl is special hence the warning.

Ok, I deleted it. Thanks, so as my phone already had the HARD-SPL, all I had to do was run NATF'S thing.

That was easy :)

[aucdiver]

Sounds great although I'm not sure what could possibly be fixed since this rom is running super great. Congrats on the house and thanks for all the help you have give us even while in the middle of a big moment in your life:rolleyes:.

My sentiments exactly, regarding both the ROM and the house. Thanks NaTF!!!

I just upgraded from 1.2 to 4.3 and was a little nervous about having to reinstall a bunch of files. I have sprite backup (SB) as a backup, but chose to copy/paste shortcut the appropriate .exe files into my start menu from my card instead. I wasn't sure if SB would keep old and potentially invalid registry entries and slow up my phone. I love how clean and efficient this ROM is. One question, though. Did you drop the TF3d config from 4.3, forget to add it, or did I just not find it, yet? No worries (whatayaknow, a cajun talking like an Aussie!) I have the .CAB I just didn't want to add a file already present. I have one addition I would love to see in your future ROMs. it's called Diamond BackgroundChanger
I got this from XDA by kevinv2u and it's only 171kb.
Robert C. (Dr. Rob)

[gordiejamz]

NATF first off let me say your roms are the bomb you do kick ass work. I just got the fuze and flashed the V4.3 rom and it works like a charm. I do have one problem that I hope you can help me with. I have a sling box and I downloaded the software on my phone and for some odd reason it only works when the phone is synched to my computer, once I unplug the phone from computer it stops working. Before the fuze I had the tytn II and the sling worked fine on that so I dont know if this is compatible with your rom or is there a setting that I need to change in order to get it to work so im hoping that you can help me out. Thanks for the help...

[RobtWms]

to a bluetooth headset.
Settings -->> System -->> Connections -->> Bluetooth
shows the device there. There is no "New Outgoing Port" button under com ports.

[ITNV]

My add/remove programs also dont show any entries




This is a known issue...there's a fix for it listed on post 2083 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3299051&postcount=2083). Also I believe the fix has already been implemented in the Kitchen files.



FYI... This issue appears to be back in 4.3s

[ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH]

I hope to have v4.4 out by this coming weekend. I've been crazy-busy (I hate that term, but it applies here) with work and I'm also in the process of buying my first house. The latter of the two is chewing up several hours a day all by itself...

I am curious as to what is changing in version 4.4? I have a very solid phone right now with 4.3, and will most likely not upgrade until WM6.5 or the new TF3D are included with more of the bugs ironed out. Do you have plans to implement one or both of these upgrades once they become available? :D

[garyfunk]

I am curious as to what is changing in version 4.4?
Here is one change: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3331523&postcount=2466

Other changes will include all the fixes he has made since 4.3

I have a very solid phone right now with 4.3, and will most likely not upgrade until WM6.5 or the new TF3D are included with more of the bugs ironed out. Do you have plans to implement one or both of these upgrades once they become available? :DNow seriously, judging from his past ROMs, what do you think his answer is?

[silenthatred]

to a bluetooth headset.
Settings -->> System -->> Connections -->> Bluetooth
shows the device there. There is no "New Outgoing Port" button under com ports.

Whenever I had what you described in the past, I deleted the relationship and started over like it was the first time I was paring them. After updating, I didn't have to pair them again. Well on the phone I did, but when I turned on the bluetooth, it tried to connect to my phone and I just had to accept it and put the security code in. But I didn't have to put my headset in paring mode this time.

[tadevinney]

Anymore thoughts on this one?

Did it work in 4.2 or 4.1?

not sure.. didnt stay with either one long enough. 4.0 did work

You could move this closer to a fix if you could tell NATF which verison broke it, that is if you are interested in getting if fixed quickly.

Pics to LG phones: Works on 4.0 and 4.2 does NOT work on 4.3

[tupbern]

NATF first off let me say your roms are the bomb you do kick ass work. I just got the fuze and flashed the V4.3 rom and it works like a charm. I do have one problem that I hope you can help me with. I have a sling box and I downloaded the software on my phone and for some odd reason it only works when the phone is synched to my computer, once I unplug the phone from computer it stops working. Before the fuze I had the tytn II and the sling worked fine on that so I dont know if this is compatible with your rom or is there a setting that I need to change in order to get it to work so im hoping that you can help me out. Thanks for the help...

I have used Slingplayer with NATF 4.0 through 4.3 and it works perfectly for me so the ROM can be ruled out. Make sure you have established a data connection (through the phones data connection or wifi) on your Fuze. It seems it's connecting through your computer but isn't finding a data connection when not connected to the computer.

[silenthatred]

I have used Slingplayer with NATF 4.0 through 4.3 and it works perfectly for me so the ROM can be ruled out. Make sure you have established a data connection (through the phones data connection or wifi) on your Fuze. It seems it's connecting through your computer but isn't finding a data connection when not connected to the computer.

I had to remove the username and password settings in the media.net profile before my other apps could connect to the internet. I actually just made a new one, setup up the connection type as cellular gprs, 3g, access point as wap.cingular and left the rest blank. I then set that as my default media net connection.

[garyfunk]

I searched and didn't see a fix for two problems I'm having. The first is that 4.3 seems to have a substantial delay from when the phone begins ringing on a caller's phone until the time it actually rings on my phone. I've tested it and it is from 3 to 4 rings that are heard by the caller before my phone rings and vibrates. On my own tests, the calls went to voicemail before I could even answer the phone.

the other issue has to do with answering the phone. The slider disappears after a while. When the phone does actually ring (see above) and shows the incoming caller and the supposed "Answer/Ignore" slider areas, there is actually no slider. The phone cannot be answered. The buttons don't work without the slider, thus leaving the phone useless to try and answer. A soft reset fixes the slider, but it has happened each of the last two days ... had to soft reset to correct the issue.

Any fixes for these items? I hope so; otherwise I'll have to go back down to 3.2 ... for the 3rd time (4.0 introduced GPS/software issues). I like the speed this ROM, but I can't afford to miss calls.

I've been testing everything you said does't work on your phone. On my phone, with 4.3 these items work as they should 100% of the time. I can only guess that you had an error during the flash or some installed program has messed up your ROM.

[krish_nank]

I've been testing everything you said does't work on your phone. On my phone, with 4.3 these items work as they should 100% of the time. I can only guess that you had an error during the flash or some installed program has messed up your ROM.


OMG! its absolutely true i did apply some black theme using" Diamond TF3d tweak" ........... then experienced all the problem stated :eek:.... by making this some of the Registry values are modified as well as some of the Manila files also gt deleted. Thank god that " Diamond TF3d tweak" keeps all the back up before applying new theme..then restored to default...... now its working well... so no blaming the ROM for this :mad:, please check before blaming or pointing something wrong on ROM on your self's..........;)

[gordiejamz]

I know this is a lot to ask but do you mind walking me through the set up? I have tried deleting the data connection and I still can not get the sling player to work. The internet works but not the sling player.

[gordiejamz]

I have used Slingplayer with NATF 4.0 through 4.3 and it works perfectly for me so the ROM can be ruled out. Make sure you have established a data connection (through the phones data connection or wifi) on your Fuze. It seems it's connecting through your computer but isn't finding a data connection when not connected to the computer.
I know this is a lot to ask but do you mind walking me through the set up? I have tried deleting the data connection and I still can not get the sling player to work. The internet works but not the sling player.

[gordiejamz]

I had to remove the username and password settings in the media.net profile before my other apps could connect to the internet. I actually just made a new one, setup up the connection type as cellular gprs, 3g, access point as wap.cingular and left the rest blank. I then set that as my default media net connection.
I tried what you suggested and it still doesnt work could you please help??

[tupbern]

I know this is a lot to ask but do you mind walking me through the set up? I have tried deleting the data connection and I still can not get the sling player to work. The internet works but not the sling player.

I wish I could be more help, but all I did was install the ROM, install Slingplayer on the Fuze, enter the SlingboxFinder ID (or IP if you have a static address) and the password (all in the Player->Slingbox Directory ->Slingbox ->Properties menu in the Slingbox program. I too used Sling with the TYTN, then Tilt, then Fuze but never did anything other than mentioned above. Oh, except setup my data connection like mentioned in the other persons reply. It would seem your data connection is operable if you're connecting to the internet. Does it try to connect to the Slingbox or fail on data connection? If there's anything else you can think of, let me know, but I thought I could help you narrow the search by eliminating the ROM. I used all v4 versions with no Sling issues.

[kahibbi]

I've been testing everything you said does't work on your phone. On my phone, with 4.3 these items work as they should 100% of the time. I can only guess that you had an error during the flash or some installed program has messed up your ROM.

Thanks for testing. I'll try a reflash here soon and hopefully that will fix my problems. I haven't noticed these the past day or so, so maybe the gremlins are gone.

[kahibbi]

OMG! its absolutely true i did apply some black theme using" Diamond TF3d tweak" ........... then experienced all the problem stated :eek:.... by making this some of the Registry values are modified as well as some of the Manila files also gt deleted. Thank god that " Diamond TF3d tweak" keeps all the back up before applying new theme..then restored to default...... now its working well... so no blaming the ROM for this :mad:, please check before blaming or pointing something wrong on ROM on your self's..........;)

Thanks for the recommendation, but no one ... meaning me ... blamed the ROM. The statement was made that I was having problems. I, unlike you, have made no changes at all via any tweaking. So I will reflash to see if this fixes my problems ... thanks to garyfunk for testing for me.

[droptopmetro]

NATF forgot the registry keys for the zoom to work (bad NATF!). The keys are in the first post of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643

On that note, has anyone noticed that TF3D is very non-responsive on this ROM?

I've been trying to figure out how to install the registry files and was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction, I'm a bit stumped atm.

[Amr0d]

Don't know if this has been posted before, if yes I am sorry but is there a german keyboard layout? I can't use üäö and y/z are changed, don't know about the rest something like a .cab file would be nice.

[gordiejamz]

I wish I could be more help, but all I did was install the ROM, install Slingplayer on the Fuze, enter the SlingboxFinder ID (or IP if you have a static address) and the password (all in the Player->Slingbox Directory ->Slingbox ->Properties menu in the Slingbox program. I too used Sling with the TYTN, then Tilt, then Fuze but never did anything other than mentioned above. Oh, except setup my data connection like mentioned in the other persons reply. It would seem your data connection is operable if you're connecting to the internet. Does it try to connect to the Slingbox or fail on data connection? If there's anything else you can think of, let me know, but I thought I could help you narrow the search by eliminating the ROM. I used all v4 versions with no Sling issues.
Thanks for the help I aprreciate it. The error messege that its giving me is unable to connect to connect to slingbox. The slingbox finder ID is correct I double checked that and the password is correct so what am I doing wrong to where it doesnt connect? Is there something that I need to do within slingplayer since the internet works?

[RobtWms]

Originally Posted by RobtWms View Post
to a bluetooth headset.
Settings -->> System -->> Connections -->> Bluetooth
shows the device there. There is no "New Outgoing Port" button under com ports.
Whenever I had what you described in the past, I deleted the relationship and started over like it was the first time I was paring them. After updating, I didn't have to pair them again. Well on the phone I did, but when I turned on the bluetooth, it tried to connect to my phone and I just had to accept it and put the security code in. But I didn't have to put my headset in paring mode this time.

Thanks, silenthatred. That was exactly the kick I needed. Still don't have a "New Outgoing Port" button, but who needs it when the headset works!!

[Tofferbear]

*sigh*

So yesterday my battery drain problem returned. I had about 5 days of great performance / battery drain and I made no changes, then out of nowhere the 1 % per minute problem returned.

I'm a tester for a living so my first impulse is to try going back build by build until it doesn't happen...but I'm at the point where I honestly don't know if it's the ROM or not...it doesn't make sense.

I get a lot of messages, so does battery drain go up that dramatically for text / multimedia / e-mail messages being stored? I would "guess" there was a total of probably 2000 or so messages stored for 5 days worth of use. Most of them just text.

I'm totally open to hard-resetting, re-flashing, whatever...I just need someone just lend their experience and tell me what they'd do in my place to figure out what's wrong?

[JoeTheFro]

I've been trying to figure out how to install the registry files and was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction, I'm a bit stumped atm.

If you have an app like WinCE CAB Manager, you can just create cabs that add or remove entries... i may be wrong about removing entries, but it will deff install entries.

[Drachen]

I've been trying to figure out how to install the registry files and was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction, I'm a bit stumped atm.

Use Total Commander built into this ROM. Go to Plugins then Registry. The values you need to add are DWORD type in hex.

[bamf-hacker]

NATF, recooked ROM out of your Kitchen working GREAT!!! Thanks

Donation sent.

[bpm2000]

Try DiamondTweak. I was having the same problem - phone wouldn't even light up until the second ring and then the ring wouldn't start until the third. I installed DiamondTweak and changed Ring Type to "Without Delay" and now it lights up on or before the first ring and starts ringing on or before the second.

Any way to get that the fix w/o diamontweak? Id rather just do a reg fix myself.

thx!

[Tofferbear]

*sigh*

So yesterday my battery drain problem returned. I had about 5 days of great performance / battery drain and I made no changes, then out of nowhere the 1 % per minute problem returned.

I'm a tester for a living so my first impulse is to try going back build by build until it doesn't happen...but I'm at the point where I honestly don't know if it's the ROM or not...it doesn't make sense.

I get a lot of messages, so does battery drain go up that dramatically for text / multimedia / e-mail messages being stored? I would "guess" there was a total of probably 2000 or so messages stored for 5 days worth of use. Most of them just text.

I'm totally open to hard-resetting, re-flashing, whatever...I just need someone just lend their experience and tell me what they'd do in my place to figure out what's wrong?

So I hard-reset this morning and have left the phone sit with no SIM card and no SD card in it...it's just running NATF's v4.3 ROM and the battery drain is back to being great again.

I'm not pointing the finger at anything, just want to know from a testability standpoint what is the best place to start looking for the cause of this...what does the fact that hard-resetting cures this at least for a while mean?

[NotATreoFan]

Any way to get that the fix w/o diamontweak? Id rather just do a reg fix myself.

thx!

The default settings in my ROM are set to Without Delay. As long as you're using the Standard version, Diamond TF3D Config is installed under Tools. Otherwise, you could always hard reset... :p

[bpm2000]

The default settings in my ROM are set to Without Delay. As long as you're using the Standard version, Diamond TF3D Config is installed under Tools. Otherwise, you could always hard reset... :p


hmm im using the Lite version... eck!

[garyfunk]

hmm im using the Lite version... eck!
Why eck? Just install the Diamond TF3D Config if you need it.

[guitarlp]

I'm running NATF's 4.2 ROM but I don't think this is specific to his ROM. When typing out a text message in landscape (keyboard out) I'm running into a few problems.

1.) Text input is very slow.
2.) Text size is HUGE (I can only see about 3-4 words of text as a type).
3.) I want to get rid of that little box that pops up as a type a word (it's gray and it has a plus icon to the far right (I'm assuming to add that word to the custom dictionary).

I'm guessing that #3 is probably causing both #1 and #2 above. So... how to I disable that? In the Input Settings under Word Completion everything de-selected.

This seams to be specific to only a certain few apps as well. I noticed it at times when setting up new email accounts... and it always pops up when sending a text message.

Any help would be appreciated.

[neuen]

As far as I can tell, the Task Manager is only accessible from the Settings window in this ROM. I like to keep it on the Touchflo "Programs" panel. Can somebody show me how to put the Task Manager icon on the panel?

[jamorgan2008]

Anyone noticing sounds/notifications just stop functioning? I don't think this has been addressed in this thread. After a soft reset sound work again but eventually they just stop working again. Phone will still vibrate but not play notifications for new messages/volume changing/phone key tones etc...

Am I doing something that is causing this?

Thanks for your input!

[darwinmach]

As far as I can tell, the Task Manager is only accessible from the Settings window in this ROM. I like to keep it on the Touchflo "Programs" panel. Can somebody show me how to put the Task Manager icon on the panel?

You will need to use the Diamond TF3D Config program in "Tools".

[droptopmetro]

Use Total Commander built into this ROM. Go to Plugins then Registry. The values you need to add are DWORD type in hex.
Danke sir. Hmm, I added it like you said but it still didn't show up, is there anything else i would need to add install?

edite: nvm, i just decied to upgrade to another version of Opera.

[harpo1]

NATF do you still plan on having V4.4 out by the end of the weekend? Thanks for all the great work.

[lynxy]

NATF do you still plan on having V4.4 out by the end of the weekend? Thanks for all the great work.

And... NATF, Don't forget to have Windows Mobile 6.5 in your 4.4 :)

4.3 is almost perfect, I hope to change one more time for 4.4 and wait for WM6.5

Thank you very much for the great work!

[neuen]

I'd like to understand what happens when I install new apps on top of older ones, especially older ones that are included in the ROM (I'm using NATF's ROM).

1. Does the new install overwrite the old one completely?
2. If a newer app is installed on the storage card, what happens to the older app that's stored on the device in ROM?

Specifically, I want to install a new version of Opera, but NATF already has an instance of Opera installed.

Thx

[garyfunk]

NATF do you still thing you'll have V4.4 out by the end of the weekend? Thanks for all the great work.
It will be out on or before February 29th and it will have many surprises.

[hobolooter]

It will be out on or before February 29th and it will have many surprises.

awww man a week of waiting for "surprises"??? what is this an apple conference???

[garyfunk]

awww man a week of waiting for "surprises"??? what is this an apple conference???
No, no it isn't. You need to seriously look at a calendar.

[JimmyMcGee]

I'd like to understand what happens when I install new apps on top of older ones, especially older ones that are included in the ROM (I'm using NATF's ROM).

1. Does the new install overwrite the old one completely?
2. If a newer app is installed on the storage card, what happens to the older app that's stored on the device in ROM?

Specifically, I want to install a new version of Opera, but NATF already has an instance of Opera installed.

Thx

To answer your questions, most likely yes it will be "overwritten." Especially if it says so when you are installing the new one.

Since this really relates to HOW NATF "cooked" in the version of Opera I have merged your question with his Thread. It will get much more visability by people who will know.

[kennyb123]

awww man a week of waiting for "surprises"??? what is this an apple conference???

No, no it isn't. You need to seriously look at a calendar.

It's February 22nd. You said on or before February 29th. 29-22 = 7. What am I missing here?

Anyways, NATF - I'm sure you and your fellow cooks have been following this, but have you seen that several pieces of software from the Touch Pro 2 have been ported to the Touch Pro? They apparently run great.

They are - TP2 Calculator, a newer build of Opera, and a newer build of HTC Album with Facebook integration and supposedly much faster operation.

Herg is the one porting all of this - so props to him! Hopefully those three things can make it to 4.4. I'm looking forward to it!

[samuel20709]

There is no 29th this year isn't a leap year

[hobolooter]

No, no it isn't. You need to seriously look at a calendar.

Way to be a cheerful and factually accurate senior member :cool:

[garyfunk]

Way to be a cheerful and factually accurate senior member :cool:

Ah, Thanks.

[reluttr]

Gary will the new version be compatable with the upcomming xboxmod TP2 Manilla port?

[garyfunk]

Gary will the new version be compatable with the upcomming xboxmod TP2 Manilla port?
Let me look at my four year calendar... I won't know that until after February 29th. :rolleyes:

[kennyb123]

There is no 29th this year isn't a leap year

Oops...I needed to seriously look at a calendar myself.

[NotATreoFan]

The ROMs are almost ready, but I made a few changes that I want to test before release. Tomorrow night is looking more likely.

[NFRCER]

The ROMs are almost ready, but I made a few changes that I want to test before release. Tomorrow night is looking more likely.

Thnx for the update NAFT. Will look into it as well :)

[vcysion]

As far as I can tell, the Task Manager is only accessible from the Settings window in this ROM. I like to keep it on the Touchflo "Programs" panel. Can somebody show me how to put the Task Manager icon on the panel?

Just place these shortcuts in your \windows\start menu\programs\ folder and then they will be selectable from all your programs. TaskManagerApp is the app that's under settings and TaskManagerLite just shows the running apps for you to choose what to close and what-not

[vcysion]

Hey NATF, I've been following your work for some time now, never said much due to the fact that i literally read every page so usually any questions get self-answered. But since i posted to help someone with the taskmanager shortcuts i decided to let you know that i love the work you put in. If you ever need any help in anything, cooking, photoshop, testing, scripting, whatever you need, just let me know. I'm just goin to continue laid back following the thread and post every once in awhile if i see someone has a "valid" question that needs help. By valid, i mean something that basically can't be found easily with the search lol Great work man, seriously appreciatted

[DaPitt84]

Can someone explain the cab file for the updated version of opera with hidden proxy. Do i just run it and it replaces my current version? Can I uninstall it?
I have had an ongoing problem with cellular video and someone said that that might fix it. he hasn't answered me back and another person either. I keep trying to find help to answer a couple questions and no one seems to be able to answer them for me. I need Celluar video up. it keeps saying "CV is only available on 3g phones. For more information go to www.at&t.com/3g."
Any help would be great.

[NotATreoFan]

Can someone explain the cab file for the updated version of opera with hidden proxy. Do i just run it and it replaces my current version? Can I uninstall it?
I have had an ongoing problem with cellular video and someone said that that might fix it. he hasn't answered me back and another person either. I keep trying to find help to answer a couple questions and no one seems to be able to answer them for me. I need Celluar video up. it keeps saying "CV is only available on 3g phones. For more information go to www.at&t.com/3g."
Any help would be great.

Check out this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=484704). New version of Opera pre-configured for the Fuze. I just tested it, and it works with no other configuration needed.

[NFRCER]

Check out this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=484704). New version of Opera pre-configured for the Fuze. I just tested it, and it works with no other configuration needed.

Hey NAFT just wondered, have you seen the Sensor Cabs around? It even allows Rotation of the Threaded SMS page and as well as the HTC Album. Also the calculator has been ported as well. If you need the links, i can point them if need be.

[NotATreoFan]

Hey NAFT just wondered, have you seen the Sensor Cabs around? It even allows Rotation of the Threaded SMS page and as well as the HTC Album. Also the calculator has been ported as well. If you need the links, i can point them if need be.

I'm trying the new HTC Album right now, but it's not behaving. None of the pictures you select will open.

[JoeTheFro]

I'm trying the new HTC Album right now, but it's not behaving. None of the pictures you select will open.

If your using the 3.x version, that is an issue. They told me to revert to 2.5 and that works for me on your v4.3. Even tested uploading to facebook and all went well.

[NFRCER]

If your using the 3.x version, that is an issue. They told me to revert to 2.5 and that works for me on your v4.3. Even tested uploading to facebook and all went well.

Agreed, use the 2.5 Build. The scrolling is so much nicer as well :)

[nextascy]

Will we get Footprint in 4.4?

[wildace408]

Hey NATF,

I was wondering if on your 4.4 rom you could add these registry keys to make the cameras panoramic mode take higher res pictures and to enable both sports and burst modes. I've tried it on most of your roms and it works great.

For higher res pana
HKLM/Software/HTC/Camera/P3
Adjust MainCamCaptSize to 1024 and MainCamSupportCaptSize to 1744

To enable burst and sport modes
HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P6\Enable to "1"
HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P8\Enable to "1"

Thanks for all the hard work man.

[n.vasiliu]

Can't wait for the 4.4 !!! Hopefully the battery drain issue will be solved....

[NotATreoFan]

If your using the 3.x version, that is an issue. They told me to revert to 2.5 and that works for me on your v4.3. Even tested uploading to facebook and all went well.

It is the 3.x version. I'll roll it back as soon as I get home.

Will we get Footprint in 4.4?

HTC Album 2.5 supports Footprints, so we'll see...

Hey NATF,

I was wondering if on your 4.4 rom you could add these registry keys to make the cameras panoramic mode take higher res pictures and to enable both sports and burst modes. I've tried it on most of your roms and it works great.

For higher res pana
HKLM/Software/HTC/Camera/P3
Adjust MainCamCaptSize to 1024 and MainCamSupportCaptSize to 1744

To enable burst and sport modes
HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P6\Enable to "1"
HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P8\Enable to "1"

Thanks for all the hard work man.

I thought I already had these. If not, I'll add 'em.

Can't wait for the 4.4 !!! Hopefully the battery drain issue will be solved....

I can't promise this because only a handful of people have reported it, and I can not duplicate it. Other then a newer Opera (w/ Flash support) and the newer Album, this ROM is mostly bug fixes.

[kk0813]

NATF,
Can you pl. replace the OEM calculator with the new Touch Pro2 calculator. It can be found here.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485349

Thanks for your great work.

[AkumaMax]

Fantastic stuff NATF. This makes my New HTC Fuze so much quicker and responsive. Since I am new I have one quick question for you. On the Storage card is there a way that I can have a Music folder and put ringtones in it? I'm trying to keep the clutter down on my Storage card. any help would be appreciated.

[NotATreoFan]

Fantastic stuff NATF. This makes my New HTC Fuze so much quicker and responsive. Since I am new I have one quick question for you. On the Storage card is there a way that I can have a Music folder and put ringtones in it? I'm trying to keep the clutter down on my Storage card. any help would be appreciated.

\Storage Card\My Documents\My Ringtones

[atsitalian]

NATF,
Can you pl. replace the OEM calculator with the new Touch Pro2 calculator. It can be found here.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485349

Thanks for your great work.

That would be AWESOME!!

[mindfrost82]

For those of you experiencing battery drain issues with v4.3, try a different rilphone.dll in your /Windows/ directory.

If you look in the radio thread, most of the radios have their associated rilphone.dll file posted somewhere in there.

For example, I tried the new BS 1.12 radio last night with the rilphone.dll from the BS 1.09.25.35 radio. My battery drain was horrible! I was losing about 1% every minute. I kept that same radio and tried the rilphone.dll from the 1.10.25.25 BS radio my battery was better but GPS sucked. Now i'm using that radio with the rilphone.dll that originally came with this ROM (and the leaked radio) and now my battery drain back to normal. My phone came off the charger about 4 hours ago and its only down to 98%.

So it looks like the radio/rilphone.dll combo could account for some of you with unusually high battery drain.

[garyfunk]

I am havng some weird problems so I am switching from 1.11.25.01 to Blackstone 1.09.25.35.

[mindfrost82]

I am havng some weird problems so I am switching to 1.11.25.01 to Blackstone 1.09.25.35.
I really liked the 1.09.25.35 radio. The only downside was that GPS seemed to take a little longer to get a fix, but once it locked on it was fine.

[JoeTheFro]

I am havng some weird problems so I am switching to 1.11.25.01 to Blackstone 1.09.25.35.

Curious about switch,

Is it: "from x to Blackstone y"
or is it: "to x from Blackstone y" ?

[d00mz]

By default, you cannot turn 3G on/off in the Comm Manager. v4.2 was using Aruppenthal's custom Comm Manager, which added that option.

You can use Advanced Config to add a 3G toggle in Comm Manager...

I've gone into the Advanced Config tool, under Menu --> More Settings --> Comm Manager and added 3G and removed Microsoft Data Push.

After "OK" and doing the softreset as prompted, the changes in Comm Manager are not saved. Can you assist? I'm running your 4.3 ROM Standard Fuze on my AT&T Fuze device.

[garyfunk]

Curious about switch,

Is it: "from x to Blackstone y"
or is it: "to x from Blackstone y" ?

Sorry. I guess I'm having even more problems. Typing being one of them. From x to Blackstone. It may be all the flashing I am doing, but my battery has only lasted about 3 hours this morning.

[JoeTheFro]

Sorry. I guess I'm having even more problems. Typing being one of them. From x to Blackstone. It may be all the flashing I am doing, but my battery has only lasted about 3 hours this morning.

Yah, that is. It is odd how different radios react differently on our devices. I have been using the 1.11.25.01 since it was leaked/released and i havent had any real issues with it.

Last night i did notice that using the camera does speed the drain. I was attempting to figure out how to disable the variable frame rate when taking pictures (in low light the frame rate drops to 3 to absorb more light, which leads to blurry images) I figure it was constant camera on and off after each reg change, but besides that, this radio does the trick.

Good luck with the Blackstone.. and does it come with a rilphone?

[Mr_Armageddon]

Big thanks to NATF. Used your v4.1 on my Fuze, and had some issues and random freezes. Now using v4.3 and everything works great.

This ROM combined with the new build of Opera taken from the TouchPro 2 is a great combination.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=484704

Keep up the great work.

[ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH]

I haven't seen a post since 2ish, my guess is something is going wrong with the site, but I have not run into any errors?!? So if this post goes through maybe everyone was invited to a party but me :(

[matthewjayala]

NATF thanks for that sick party, nice new house. I'm glad i was able to come it was a party never to forget. Everyone got the invite right?

P.S. also thanks for the parting gifts of the Touch Pro 2 WITH full custom Windows Mobile 7.

P.S.S. SO GLAD I WENT.

[NotATreoFan]

v4.4 is up! Sorry, I fell asleep while they were uploading last night.

Read the changelog.

The programs removed from Lite ROMs will be available in CAB form. Uploading now, but I've gotta leave for work.

[garyfunk]

It's looking good. I had some problems yesterday but all seems well today with 4.4. For some reason, my pim.vol grew and TouchFlo doesn't like it. UC is real smooth with 4.4. The entire phone seems a little faster now.

Great work, and Thank you. Thank you for all you have done.

[NFRCER]

v4.4 is up! Sorry, I fell asleep while they were uploading last night.

Read the changelog.

The programs removed from Lite ROMs will be available in CAB form. Uploading now, but I've gotta leave for work.

Thnx NAFT. Will report back if anything from work. Your Donation is still scheduled, I havent forgotten you :p

[galford316]

I am still downloading the new 4.4. Awesome work man... A question comes to mind however, one of the issues with 4.3 was that it wasnt showing the installed apps without a reg change. I dont see this in the change log. Was this fixed in 4.4

[garyfunk]

I am still downloading the new 4.4. Awesome work man... A question comes to mind however, one of the issues with 4.3 was that it wasnt showing the installed apps without a reg change. I dont see this in the change log. Was this fixed in 4.4
It was fixed. post 4.3 and a cab built for 4.3 that fixed the problem. Sorry you missed this.

[kk0813]

I am still downloading the new 4.4. Awesome work man... A question comes to mind however, one of the issues with 4.3 was that it wasnt showing the installed apps without a reg change. I dont see this in the change log. Was this fixed in 4.4

Yes it's fixed in 4.4, I just flashed 4.4 and I can see the installed apps in remove programs list.

[NFRCER]

In the mean time Im having a hard time wondering if my eyes shrinked while viewing the Contacts Application :p

[kk0813]

In the mean time Im having a hard time wondering if my eyes shrinked while viewing the Contacts Application :p

Ya, font is very small compared to previous versions of the ROM. Even when I try to install any applications the font is very small when asking for device or storage card.

[mindfrost82]

Ya, font is very small compared to previous versions of the ROM. Even when I try to install any applications the font is very small when asking for device or storage card.
Can you increase it in the screen settings?

Start > Settings > System > Screen > Text Size tab

I usualy have mine right in the middle, but I think NATF usually has it between the middle and Largest.

I haven't loaded the new ROM, so I'm not sure what its set at.

[NFRCER]

Can you increase it in the screen settings?

Start > Settings > System > Screen > Text Size tab

I usualy have mine right in the middle, but I think NATF usually has it between the middle and Largest.

I haven't loaded the new ROM, so I'm not sure what its set at.

Honestly I dont mind at all, my ealier post was being sarcastic :D
I'll try it and post anyways. Thnx
-----------
Edit: That seems to be it. Im still keeping it as before though. Thnxs goes to Mindfrost82.

[mindfrost82]

Something does seem to be a little off with the fonts in the new version.

For example, go into the Task Manager settings, under the Buton tab, the 2nd radio button is cut off where it says "X".

Also go under Long Press End Key and some of them look a little cut off.

As of now it doesn't look like a very big deal, just cosmetic. I'll see if it affects any other programs.

[AkumaMax]

\Storage Card\My Documents\My Ringtones

thank you very much.

[garyfunk]

Something does seem to be a little off with the fonts in the new version.

For example, go into the Task Manager settings, under the Buton tab, the 2nd radio button is cut off where it says "X".

Also go under Long Press End Key and some of them look a little cut off.

As of now it doesn't look like a very big deal, just cosmetic. I'll see if it affects any other programs.
I am not seeing any of those problems. So, either your directions are bad or it's not the ROM.

[matthewjayala]

where's the link to v4.4 to flash? some people already have it and i cant even find it.

[mindfrost82]

I am not seeing any of those problems. So, either your directions are bad or it's not the ROM.
Weird. I'll check after a hard reset because I'm redoing my UC file.

[mindfrost82]

where's the link to v4.4 to flash? some people already have it and i cant even find it.
First page with all the other downloads. 3rd post I believe.

EDIT: 4th post.

[galford316]

I have noticed the same thing about the fonts. Flashed and hard reset and no software yet
but if you start>programs>task manager>button


What i am seeing is that "end of programs by tapping and holding (hard return)
"X"

that quoted X is half displayed.

anybody getting this as well?

this is just a cosmetic tho... other wise i find this rom faster than 4.3 too bad the HD contacts was slowing things down.. i like those features.

[garyfunk]

where's the link to v4.4 to flash? some people already have it and i cant even find it.
Read post #4. It's where all the links to the ROM are and have always been.

[garyfunk]

I have noticed the same thing about the fonts. Flashed and hard reset and no software yet
but if you start>programs>task manager>button\

Do you mean

Start -> Programs - > System -> Task Manager

I don't see a 'Button' tab though.

[mindfrost82]

I have noticed the same thing about the fonts. Flashed and hard reset and no software yet
but if you start>programs>task manager>button


What i am seeing is that "end of programs by tapping and holding (hard return)
"X"

that quoted X is half displayed.

anybody getting this as well?

this is just a cosmetic tho... other wise i find this rom faster than 4.3 too bad the HD contacts was slowing things down.. i like those features.
That's the exact same one I was talking about...I guess I could have been a little more specific lol.

You can still install another Manila package. I installed FuzeBerry and HD contacts works ok.

I never really noticed much of a slowdown with the HD contacts in 4.3...I think it slowed down access to the Windows directory some though.

[mindfrost82]

\

Do you mean

Start -> Programs - > System -> Task Manager

I don't see a 'Button' tab though.
Sorry...

Start > Settings > System > Task Manager, then the button tab.

[galford316]

I had expected there as well... its in that other folder mentioned (looking at it again just to make sure)

[galford316]

That's the exact same one I was talking about...I guess I could have been a little more specific lol.

You can still install another Manila package. I installed FuzeBerry and HD contacts works ok.

I never really noticed much of a slowdown with the HD contacts in 4.3...I think it slowed down access to the Windows directory some though.

Ahh thanks.. I really liked HD contacts i will go search for manila and HD and see if i can find a cab.. thanks again.

[mindfrost82]

To fix the font issue change these registry values:

HKLM\System\GWE\Menu\Barfnt\Ht = 800
HKLM\System\GWE\Menu\Popfnt\Ht = 1000 (if you want the larger popup menu font as in previous NATF ROMs)
HKLM\System\GDI\SYSFNT\Ht = 900

[garyfunk]

Sorry...

Start > Settings > System > Task Manager, then the button tab.
Thank you for clear directions. That's very strange. I'd change the text to End of programs by holding "X"

[Tofferbear]

For those of you experiencing battery drain issues with v4.3, try a different rilphone.dll in your /Windows/ directory.

If you look in the radio thread, most of the radios have their associated rilphone.dll file posted somewhere in there.

For example, I tried the new BS 1.12 radio last night with the rilphone.dll from the BS 1.09.25.35 radio. My battery drain was horrible! I was losing about 1% every minute. I kept that same radio and tried the rilphone.dll from the 1.10.25.25 BS radio my battery was better but GPS sucked. Now i'm using that radio with the rilphone.dll that originally came with this ROM (and the leaked radio) and now my battery drain back to normal. My phone came off the charger about 4 hours ago and its only down to 98%.

So it looks like the radio/rilphone.dll combo could account for some of you with unusually high battery drain.


Thanks for the reply mindfrost...

As this doesn't seem to be caused by NATF's ROM I'm hesitant to keep the discussion going about battery problems on this post...but there are a few of us on here that experience this problem and I don't want to loose any traction we're getting...if this should be moved to a different thread, please let me know...

Anyway, onto the meat of the post...so I was told that the rilphone.dll in NATF's 4.3 ROM was for the 1.11.25.01 radio, so I switched to that radio and it worked great for about 5 days, then out of nowhere it went back to the 1% per minute drain problem. Then I hard-reset and poof...back to normal drain. So my question is...would you still feel that this could be a problem brought on by the radio or does this sound like it's a different problem?

[NFRCER]

I didnt see this posted so I'll do it then.
This is to add to the problem where some things are cut off.
Please try it as well and let me know if its only me.
This happens at the Alarm section, try turning on the alarms for other days.
Youll notice your hitting the letter but its not clicking it.
If you hit the lower to bottom part it will hit it though.
Ill try the fixes posted by Mindfrost and see if any of this helps.

[garyfunk]

I didnt see this posted so I'll do it then. This is to add to the problem where some things are cut off. Please try it as well and let me know if its only me. This happens at the Alarm section, try turning on the alarms for other days. Youll notice your hitting the letter but its not clicking it. If you hit the lower to bottom part it will hit it though. Ill try the fixes posted by Mindfrost and see if any of this helps.
It's working perfect for me. Maybe your screen alignment is off by a small amount.

Wow, what happend to your formatting. It just changed from a single paragraph to several paragraphs.

[galford316]

To fix the font issue change these registry values:

HKLM\System\GWE\Menu\Barfnt\Ht = 800
HKLM\System\GWE\Menu\Popfnt\Ht = 1000 (if you want the larger popup menu font as in previous NATF ROMs)
HKLM\System\GDI\SYSFNT\Ht = 900

This has fixed my font issue.

[allted]

nevermind, gunna try re-installing

[ashter31]

Will this rom work on an 8525?

[polystirenman]

HI!
i would like to say "THANK You" to NATF!!!just flashed 4.4 Lite ROM and so far everything looks all right.i realy like the size of my internal memory.i am currently awaiting the new touch Flo 3D 2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470164) and i think i will need some spare megs in my TP :D
THANK YOU for your effort and hard work,NATF!

[chernomorez]

I have a question about Video Call feature with 4.3 ROM. If you click on the Call hard button and get into the screen that shows a keypad and the last dialed numbers, the right soft button says "Video Call". Is there any way to change it to Call, b/c video calling is either not enabled or quite pricey.
Thanks

[garyfunk]

Will this rom work on an 8525?

OH,

MY,

GOD.

Only if you do the $350 hardware upgrade.

Seriously, NO. The 8525 is not Raphael. For your first post, you didn't choose wisely.

[garyfunk]

I have a question about Video Call feature with 4.3 ROM. If you click on the Call hard button and get into the screen that shows a keypad and the last dialed numbers, the right soft button says "Video Call". Is there any way to change it to Call, b/c video calling is either not enabled or quite pricey.
Thanks

In 4.4, it's the left soft button that says 'Video call.' However, that would be rather redundant since pressing any other button causes a normal call and we would lose the Video Call button.

[Tofferbear]

Will this rom work on an 8525?

Heh...I have a couple of those laying around...can't remember the code name for them though...I think it was Hermes in which case this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=305) is where you should start looking. Not really sure what's available for tweaking on those things, but I think I'm pointing you in the right direction at least. ;)

[andrewstrauss]

Thank you soooo much for removing Manilla.....much appreciated :)

Downloading 4.4 now to play with....then going to update my UC as it no longer needs to disable Manilla

[l3it3r]

First off:

OMG is this faster or what!? Opera loads twice as fast, the integration of the new album is awesome and everything works perfectly.

Secondly, thanks again for this amazing update! Looking forward to the next one :D

[garyfunk]

Todd,

I've been hitting this ROM pretty heavy for about 10 hours now, and it's darn near perfect. It seems realy fast and I haven't had a single problem so far.

[Matesse]

anyone else having trouble syncing?

[josbald1975]

Will this rom work on an 8525?

all i can say is thank you ashter and Gary for that funny moment

this stuff runs slow enough on the current gen hardware (no offense to NATF) that i'd be hard pressed to see it running in a worthwhile fashion on the 3gen old 8525. so yeah, i'd recommend the hardware update as well :)

NATF,
D/Ling the lastest and greatest now, then i'll buy you a pot of coffee.
thanks again for spending so much free time on this stuff. (and it's probably less stressful than buying your house)

[garyfunk]

anyone else having trouble syncing?

Not me. I use the USB and Bluetooth and both are working great.

[cushcalc]

Will this rom work on an 8525?

NO!

Go to the Hermes Forum.

[datima]

I have been with 4.4 for the day and do not see a problem anywhere. It does everything as advertised. Thanks for the great ROM NATF.

[bamf-hacker]

Waiting on the Kitchen and the Lite removed cabs...

NATF you are tha man.

[NotATreoFan]

CABs for the Lite versions are up in Post #4, and the kitchen files will be uploaded later tonight.

Dig in! :)

[CR7KB24]

Hey Natf, would it be possible to make a cab or something to get the manila from 4.3, I am having problems with this manila restarting, I also had this problem in 4.2, Thanks

[msdtra]

Only problem I am having after flashing ROM V4.4 and reflashing is getting GPS to work.

I don't have any other programs loaded after flashing ROM.

Keeps saying lost GPS connection and yes to reconnect

[garyfunk]

Hey Natf, would it be possible to make a cab or something to get the manila from 4.3, I am having problems with this manila restarting, I also had this problem in 4.2, Thanks

What is the point. 4.4S is working oh so very well. Better than 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 and 4.3. It is the best ROM yet. If it works for me, it has to be great.

Only problem I am having after flashing ROM V4.4 and reflashing is getting GPS to work.

I don't have any other programs loaded after flashing ROM.

Keeps saying lost GPS connection and yes to reconnect

Did you do a hard reset after flashing?

[reluttr]

Why does it say 4.4 is "4.3S" in device information?

Edit:
I reflashed and everything is fine now

[garyfunk]

Why does it say 4.4 is "4.3S" in device information?
Where are you seeing which item? I will guess that if you are seeing 4.3S, then you didn't falsh the 4.4S ROM.

[NotATreoFan]

Why does it say 4.4 is "4.3S" in device information?

I just checked my kitchens, and they all say v4.4.

[CR7KB24]

What is the point. 4.4S is working oh so very well. Better than 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 and 4.3. It is the best ROM yet. If it works for me, it has to be great.

Yes I know the rest rom works perfect but I am talking about the manila

But the point is that that TouchFlo keeps restarting on me, it's really annoying :mad:

[reluttr]

Where are you seeing which item? I will guess that if you are seeing 4.3S, then you didn't falsh the 4.4S ROM.
I think I accadently flashed 4.3 XD, cause when I extracted the files I guess I forgot to highlight the raphimg file, so it didnt replace the 4.3 one. So when I flashed it flashed 4.3 again... Anyways I rextracted everything making sure to get everything copyed and I reflashed and I am having no problems now.

Also I have a question, when the xbmod version of the touch pro 2 manilla comes out all I have to do is install the lite version of 4.4 and then install the updated manilla? Or will the installation just update the manilla files in the full version?

[garyfunk]

I think I accadently flashed 4.3 XD, cause when I extracted the files I guess I forgot to highlight the raphimg file, so it didnt replace the 4.3 one. So when I flashed it flashed 4.3 again... Anyways I rextracted everything making sure to get everything copyed and I reflashed and I am having no problems now.

We are all glad to know 4.4 is working well for you.

For anyone else having problems, reflash, hard reset and test before you do any UC or install any other programs.

[D3TH METAL]

Can anyone confirm that MobileMatt's FuzeBerry TF3D Skin v7.5CFC + Matching Dialer is working with 4.4?

[heweaver]

Thank you NATF for the wonderful work you have apparently done. I just got an HTC Fuze (AT&T) last week. I have already found the need to tweak a few tiny things by installing some additional configuration utilities I've found. From what I am reading, I am sure it will just be a matter of time before I install your 4.4 ROM.

I do apologize, but I have searched (or tried to search) this thread but maybe my keywords were too general...but I just have what I hope is a quick and easy question.

I know I will need HARDSPL to flash the roms, and I have downloaded your most recent rom. I also downloaded the stock AT&T ROM from this site that appears to be identical to the versions included with my Fuze (just incase I ever decided to swap back)...and I know that (for warranty purposes) I would have to replace the boot loader back to stock if I ever had to send it back in. I think I understand the process for this phone and am about to take the plunge. (I have flashed roms on other models of phones in the past, so this whole process isn't entirely new to me)...

But my question is, if I flashed to your ROM, am I going to lose everything I already have on the phone as far as contacts, pictures, and music? If it does erase all of those (like formatting the phone), what would be my best option to backup the contacts, music, and photos? Would something like Activesync work best, or is there a third party backup utility that would allow me to back them all up easily and then do a restore after I flashed ROM's? Or should I just copy all of the files (music and photo) to my PC via the USB cable and then do the contacts somehow else?

I don't have a whole lot of stuff on there, if I had to completely re-do all of my contacts it wouldn't kill me, but I was just wondering what (if anything) I should backup, provided the flash doesn't fail to apply during updating of course :)

[D3TH METAL]

Very easy, first sync your contacts with active sync. Once the flash is complete, resync and your contacts will be restored! second, just back up all your music and pictures. Then when your finished with the flash, copy and paste them back. Piece of cake!

[ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH]

Is anyone using TFDetacher with this ROM? I have been using it and I'm fairly sure it was the cause of my lag, but I like it so much. If anyone uses it and it works fine for them, then great, it must be one of the other 50 applications I install :eek:

Gary, sorry for being overly excited before, didn't even know I had repeated myself, ha!

NATF. Would this be the final nice and stable boyfriend 6.1 that we bring to our parents before we get naughty with 6.5 and TF3D TP2? Hmmmm?

Ps. NATF. Sorry, I am just excited that is all, you do such hard work, I don't mean to be rude. no more mention of 6.5...












6.5





...starting now!

[heweaver]

Very easy, first sync your contacts with active sync. Once the flash is complete, resync and your contacts will be restored! second, just back up all your music and pictures. Then when your finished with the flash, copy and paste them back. Piece of cake!

I am going to spend the next several days reading all the cons for the v4.4 but once I am sure none of them are deal breakers, then I will probably flash after the simple backup process you described.

I am guessing that any apps I may have installed (like the advanced config and diamond tf3d config tools) will also need to be re-installed also. No big deal, I only have a couple of them... but thanks a lot for your info! I almost can't wait to try to flash the rom now :)

[NotATreoFan]

The kitchens are up!

Good night all on the East Coast...

[ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH]

I am getting this error in flashing my rom, it always happens at 74%, and I have gone through the recovery steps three times now. When I try to view the read me file it wont open. I am in the process of downloading 4.4 again, and want to know how do I get out of this endless "Recovery" loop and try to start over with the new download? I get the three color screen telling me "upgrade ROM code error please try again". When here, should I shut down the PDA Phone ROM Update Utility 3.27.4.3 on my PC, re-connect my phone, and run the fresh download? Ugh, my poor baby is sick and I need a doctor! :confused:

[heweaver]

Very easy, first sync your contacts with active sync. Once the flash is complete, resync and your contacts will be restored! second, just back up all your music and pictures. Then when your finished with the flash, copy and paste them back. Piece of cake!

I am at a friends house and plugged in my device to his PC (he has activesync installed but does not use it). I let it establish a connection to the device and then realized my calendar info went to his Outlook (which he DOES use)...so, I deleted the partnership on the PC...not realizing that when I plugged my device back into his PC, it would erase all of my contacts and calendar entries. So now I have to start over from scratch again anyway... (the message the PC gave me, I mis-read it and thought it was only going to delete the information ON THE PC itself...but after seeing what I did, I realize that wasn't the case).

I may consider flashing ROM's tomorrow ... I didn't lose anything that a few hours of work won't fix... AND I learned a valuable lesson about Activesync that I wish I hadn't learned the hard way...

But I will be sure to only let it establish a connection with my PC's from now on. Thanks again for the info!

Everyone else, be careful with Activesync... :)

[heweaver]

Just after I posted this message, as I was re-creating my contacts (luckily I only got a few of them re-created), I realized that the PC still had all the contacts in Outlook. I had Outlook save each one as a .VCF card (I selected all, told it to SEND so it attached them to an email, but then I just CUT and PASTED them from the attachments line and placed them in a folder on my SD card). I then just went to the folder on the phone and clicked each one, one at a time, and it added them back to my phone with all of my notes, birthdays, and even the personal photos I had created! So now, not only did I not lose my contacts, but I realize that as long as I keep the .VCF files stored somewhere, I can easily just re-add them without any hassle! I am probably going to flash tomorrow, but may still think on it over the next few days...but I feel happy that my contacts are back the way they were!

I am at a friends house and plugged in my device to his PC (he has activesync installed but does not use it). I let it establish a connection to the device and then realized my calendar info went to his Outlook (which he DOES use)...so, I deleted the partnership on the PC...not realizing that when I plugged my device back into his PC, it would erase all of my contacts and calendar entries. So now I have to start over from scratch again anyway... (the message the PC gave me, I mis-read it and thought it was only going to delete the information ON THE PC itself...but after seeing what I did, I realize that wasn't the case).

I may consider flashing ROM's tomorrow ... I didn't lose anything that a few hours of work won't fix... AND I learned a valuable lesson about Activesync that I wish I hadn't learned the hard way...

But I will be sure to only let it establish a connection with my PC's from now on. Thanks again for the info!

Everyone else, be careful with Activesync... :)

[D3TH METAL]

Anything besides stock rom will be a huge improvement. What are you waiting for? :D

[eastside770]

whats up guys!im new to this forum.i had the att tilt.i did the upgrade from 6 to 6.1. i was wondering is this rom just like installing 6 to 6.1 on the tilt. bc now i have the att fuze and i dont like all tha extra att s*** on there.would this automatically remove the bloatware?basically would i do this like i did the upgrade?

[shimbob]

I just flashed v4.4, did a hardreset, etc. A couple issues..

-No uninstall entry for the WeatherMaster? I know I can hunt down the files and delete them manual, just wondering. Same goes for MP3 Trimmer. I guess you have to draw a line somewhere re: what should be considered part of the NATF rom and what's "optional".

-Trying to remove the NATF HTC 5.05 Sliding Dialer just crashes the phone. Spinning beachball, cant return to the Today page and must soft-reset.

Otherwise, looks damn well polished!

[nextascy]

I know I will need HARDSPL to flash the roms, and I have downloaded your most recent rom. I also downloaded the stock AT&T ROM from this site that appears to be identical to the versions included with my Fuze (just incase I ever decided to swap back)...and I know that (for warranty purposes) I would have to replace the boot loader back to stock if I ever had to send it back in. I think I understand the process for this phone and am about to take the plunge. (I have flashed roms on other models of phones in the past, so this whole process isn't entirely new to me)...

But my question is, if I flashed to your ROM, am I going to lose everything I already have on the phone as far as contacts, pictures, and music? If it does erase all of those (like formatting the phone), what would be my best option to backup the contacts, music, and photos? Would something like Activesync work best, or is there a third party backup utility that would allow me to back them all up easily and then do a restore after I flashed ROM's? Or should I just copy all of the files (music and photo) to my PC via the USB cable and then do the contacts somehow else?

I don't have a whole lot of stuff on there, if I had to completely re-do all of my contacts it wouldn't kill me, but I was just wondering what (if anything) I should backup, provided the flash doesn't fail to apply during updating of course :)

Backup all files, like pictures, doc, video, etc that's on the phone memory before flashing (you can backup these files using PIMBACKUP custom section). Use PIMBACKUP (search for this program) to backup your contact, calendar, and SMS. Flash your device. Than restore with PIMBACKUP.

[NotATreoFan]

I just flashed v4.4, did a hardreset, etc. A couple issues..

-No uninstall entry for the WeatherMaster? I know I can hunt down the files and delete them manual, just wondering. Same goes for MP3 Trimmer. I guess you have to draw a line somewhere re: what should be considered part of the NATF rom and what's "optional".

-Trying to remove the NATF HTC 5.05 Sliding Dialer just crashes the phone. Spinning beachball, cant return to the Today page and must soft-reset.

Otherwise, looks damn well polished!

You can only uninstall programs that were loaded from CAB. The two you mentioned are OEM packages.

As for the dialer, did you follow my steps under the Changelog? I tested it several times.

[Joecd04475]

Does anyone else use Weather Watcher? It's a great program that takes weather data (from weather.com I believe) and displays several "tabs" of info (current, hourly, daily, etc) in an htm format. Anyway, after installing it, there's a couple problems. The first is when the program is first opened, the tabs are displayed, but the actual information is not displayed until I touch the screen. The second is the whole program is "zoomed out". Everything is much smaller, and doesn't take up the full screen. I didn't have either problem with the stock Fuze rom. Anyone have any ideas? By the way, the program can be found in this thread:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315524&highlight=weather+watcher

[placebo3681]

Hey guys. Having a cosmetic issue. I've never done a screen capture before so if someone could tell me I'll get a picture up to show what I mean if my description sucks. Anyway. Under such tabs as Programs Internet and Pictures, some of the data is being shown BEHIND the pictures of the tabs, and it doesn't look it good. I'm using 4.4 here and it's the first ROM I've seen do that. So for example under the Programs tab, half of the icon in the 4th row are showing up behind the pictures of the tabs. Does that make sense? Anyone else having this problem?

Also please disregard my signature, I've just been too lazy to update. Sorry.

[agent5]

Hi NATF,
I just wanted to confirm what others have reported. I have a Touch pro T7272 (UK). When I place your image in the root directory of my SD card and reboot in to hardSPL, it shows up OK, starts the flashing process and gets stuck at around 70% or so (can't tell because there are no numeric accurate figures in the progress bar). I tried a hard-reset and flashing again but still no success.
Eventually, I placed my SD card in to my laptop and placed the HTC new release (5.05) and all was well.
It's easy to reproduce if you need more info.

I have not tried from a PC,USB connection yet.
Other then that, I've been looking forward to this release
So I hope we can figure this out. :)

Cheers,
-Dave

[placebo3681]

I'm also having issues using Internet Sharing. It won't connect to the network. Was not an issue in 4.3 for me. Otherwise network connects fine (can use Opera, Weather, IE, etc.) Not sure if anything changed.

Update: Nevermind. It apparently only works when you're already connected to the network. It can't connect to it on it's own. Never knew that.

[mindfrost82]

Does anyone else use Weather Watcher? It's a great program that takes weather data (from weather.com I believe) and displays several "tabs" of info (current, hourly, daily, etc) in an htm format. Anyway, after installing it, there's a couple problems. The first is when the program is first opened, the tabs are displayed, but the actual information is not displayed until I touch the screen. The second is the whole program is "zoomed out". Everything is much smaller, and doesn't take up the full screen. I didn't have either problem with the stock Fuze rom. Anyone have any ideas? By the way, the program can be found in this thread:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315524&highlight=weather+watcher
I've had the same problems for a while now.

Its either related to Opera or an updated version of PIE (if we have one in these ROMs). I've noticed it in all of the newer ROMs I've flashed, not just NATF.

[garyfunk]

Hey guys. Having a cosmetic issue. I've never done a screen capture before so if someone could tell me I'll get a picture up to show what I mean if my description sucks. Anyway. Under such tabs as Programs Internet and Pictures, some of the data is being shown BEHIND the pictures of the tabs, and it doesn't look it good. I'm using 4.4 here and it's the first ROM I've seen do that. So for example under the Programs tab, half of the icon in the 4th row are showing up behind the pictures of the tabs. Does that make sense? Anyone else having this problem?

Also please disregard my signature, I've just been too lazy to update. Sorry.

It is not an issue, it is a feature. That is not a problem as it is normal.

[placebo3681]

It is not an issue, it is a feature. That is not a problem as it is normal.

Ok, thanks for the update.

[placebo3681]

I've had the same problems for a while now.

Its either related to Opera or an updated version of PIE (if we have one in these ROMs). I've noticed it in all of the newer ROMs I've flashed, not just NATF.

Ok thanks. I actually installed the Restore_curtains CAB that NATF supplies and it got rid of the issue for me. Cleaned it up nice.

[grizzlygoon]

What happened to the hd contact tab in 4.4?

[Joecd04475]

What happened to the hd contact tab in 4.4?

From the change log:

Rolled back to older Manila build due to lag issues with HD Contacts version.

[AkumaMax]

For anyone not running Lite v4.4. Does the standard 4.4 have the Lock feature?

[kk0813]

I just checked my kitchens, and they all say v4.4.

For me it's showing 4.4S but the ROM date is 02/10/09. (Just for information.) Every thing is working great for me.

Thank you

[galford316]

Anecdotally, I am seeing the battery life not as good compared to 4.3. Has anybody else seeing any difference. Again , this is anecdotal. I have not gather logs and not done methodically process of determining if it is.

[bfspider]

Hey NATF,
Thanks for 4.4! I'll post anything that I run into.

I was wondering, on your front page, can you post the cab for the HD Manila that you used in 4.3?

Thanks :)

[CR7KB24]

Hey NATF,
Thanks for 4.4! I'll post anything that I run into.

I was wondering, on your front page, can you post the cab for the HD Manila that you used in 4.3?

Thanks :)

Yes Natf, please post the manila you used in 4.3

[galford316]

Yes Natf, please post the manila you used in 4.3

k, I am gonna chime in. It would be kewl if you did. I would for sure use it. :)

[reluttr]

Yes Natf, please post the manila you used in 4.3
I agree, I liked the manilla from 4.3, it seemed to be smoother.

Has anyone tried the xbmod hd manilla on the 4.4 rom, and does it have landscape mode "just the standard landscape on the default rom not the verizon one :P"?

[garyfunk]

I agree, I liked the manilla from 4.3, it seemed to be smoother.

Has anyone tried the xbmod hd manilla on the 4.4 rom, and does it have landscape mode "just the standard landscape on the default rom not the verizon one :P"?
I will bet you guys can get it from the same place NATF does.

[NFRCER]

Anyone has connection issues with Internet Explorer? It always tells me "Cannot Connect with the current connection settings". Not even on wifi.

[NFRCER]

It's working perfect for me. Maybe your screen alignment is off by a small amount.

Wow, what happend to your formatting. It just changed from a single paragraph to several paragraphs.

I was writing from Opera Mobile. I didnt wanna zoom out to see wat i was writing :p

[danlo]

Hello,

Did a search on wi-fi, but seems like everybody wants it to stay on at all times. However, I have a problem with keeping wi-fi off. If I turn wi-fi on and then turn it off, it will keep turning itself back on unless I 1) turn it off and 2) soft reset the phone. For example, I turn my phone to flight mode when I walk into my office (no cell reception), but after a few minutes, Wi-fi will turn on automatically.

Is this something that other people are seeing as well? Thanks.

[dentonb2000]

Nat,

Great work... I love the speed of the 4.4 ROM. One problem though, I am the one person that uses AT&T PTT. I did as Post 4 says to install the AT&T dialer but PTT still doesn't work. The last version that worked was 4.2. Can you think of anything else I can try or what is causing PTT to not work?

Thanks again for your efforts.

[kennyb123]

I'm still waiting for anyone to post a true bug in this release... that speaks volumes!

I just upgraded from 2.2 to 4.4. This felt like THE ONE! And, after using it a few hours now, getting ALL my software restored succesfully... the only thing left to try is GPS.

Okay, just tried it. Not spectacular. But, that was from a cold start, and I never really had great GPS response. So, it's something I've learned to deal with.

Bottom line - so far this thing is bug free and running smooth. Fuzeberry 7.5CFC is flawless on it as well.

Thanks NATF for all your work. Take a 1 month break! hehe

[DMerrill]

Anyone has connection issues with Internet Explorer? It always tells me "Cannot Connect with the current connection settings". Not even on wifi.

Works here (just went to CNN with IE).

[KD8DNS]

Nat,

Great work... I love the speed of the 4.4 ROM. One problem though, I am the one person that uses AT&T PTT. I did as Post 4 says to install the AT&T dialer but PTT still doesn't work. The last version that worked was 4.2. Can you think of anything else I can try or what is causing PTT to not work?

Thanks again for your efforts.

I am in the same boat

[brnail]

I installed 4.4 (coming from 4.3) and hard reset. I installed programs and soft reset several times with no issues. Then (this is the only thing I see as different) I entered login information into account manager for Facebook last night. This morning I could not access Contacts (all people) from the tab in TF3D, so I soft reset. Upon doing that, instead of "Loading" TF3D it said Tap to Load. Upon tapping it went into a loop and would never start.

I am trying everything now from another hard reset, except the login, to try to recreate the issue.... nothing so far.

Brian

[shimbob]

You can only uninstall programs that were loaded from CAB. The two you mentioned are OEM packages.
Doh! They're in ROM. I should have known that.

As for the dialer, did you follow my steps under the Changelog? I tested it several times.
I didnt check the changelog. It turns out I could switch back to the Today screen by pressing the Windows key and let it process in the background. It eventually uninstalled, go figure.

Hum, now my battery icon does not have the % displayed, nor does it change when I plug in the charger

[Beknatok]

Hi all,

NATF, I wanted to offer you kudos for a great release! I loaded 4.4 yesterday and all in all, this is a super solid release and ROM.

I just upgraded from 2.2 to 4.4. This felt like THE ONE! And, after using it a few hours now, getting ALL my software restored succesfully... the only thing left to try is GPS.

Okay, just tried it. Not spectacular. But, that was from a cold start, and I never really had great GPS response. So, it's something I've learned to deal with.

I tried out GPS functionality last night and this morning, and found for the first time in a long time, that it's working fine for me. From various locations along my commute route, in the Chicagoland area, I was able to obtain a GPS fix anywhere from 5-30 seconds. I will note that I'm using the latest Blackstone 1.12.25.16 radio right now as well, which I believe is also a factor (as it improved my GPS with the Elite RC3 ROM I was running prior).

[Tofferbear]

But my question is, if I flashed to your ROM, am I going to lose everything I already have on the phone as far as contacts, pictures, and music?

Yes, you loose everything when you do a hard-reset which is required after installing the ROM. :)

[Tofferbear]

Anecdotally, I am seeing the battery life not as good compared to 4.3. Has anybody else seeing any difference. Again , this is anecdotal. I have not gather logs and not done methodically process of determining if it is.

I'm usually the one with battery issues, but it's day number 2 and still discharging (that sounds gross) normally.