[ROM] [WWE] [GSM] [28-Oct-09] NATF's v4 Final WM6.1 TP ROMs

[darwinmach]

Another thing I would like to see is ICR (In Call Recording) working in the ROM without any other tweaking necessary.

I second that :)

I also second speeding up startup time and system responsiveness.

[ProjektFuze]

perhaps better battery life?? for some reason after flashing to 4.6 from 4.4 my battery life has gone to shit....

[Jdilla]

perhaps better battery life?? for some reason after flashing to 4.6 from 4.4 my battery life has gone to shit....

Well there could be a number of reasons
for that. I myself have gotten more savvy
about it and started using Lumos and changed
my radio stack to 1.12.25.19 which has
improved reception and battery life.
I also started to set my email to check less.
There could be a bunch more that im not aware of.
Overall I'd take another look at your usage before assuming too much. :p

[Username:]

stability, stability, stability.

don't get distracted by chasing latest-greatest shiny object.

I concur!

In fact, I would even ask to go back to the AT&T OS build 20771. NATF 4.5 seemed a lot more stable to me than 4.6. Well, actually "a lot" may be an exaggeration but all in all, I for one felt more comfortable with 4.5 than 4.6. For 4.7 I would ask for the most stable ROM based on the most stable WME.

[ProjektFuze]

Well there could be a number of reasons
for that. I myself have gotten more savvy
about it and started using Lumos and changed
my radio stack to 1.12.25.19 which has
improved reception and battery life.
I also started to set my email to check less.
There could be a bunch more that im not aware of.
Overall I'd take another look at your usage before assuming too much. :p


valid point.... but my usage is exactly the same as 4.4 to 4.6 lol... so yea... i understand your point but my assumptions are based off of personal experience... cheers

[GermanGuy]

Thanks for this excellent ROM NATF.
I have a few of questions. First, TapText is not usable - the resolution, font is off - is there a version of Tap Text that runs well on this ROM? Also, I am having problems with drop down menus in SPB PocketPlus. Lastly, how do I get rid off the bluetooth icon in the status bar when bluetooth is on?

[F2a]

Stable and fast. If that means no TF3D2 then fine. I don't think you would ever release a bogged down slow rom anyway. Actually, with 6.5, I'm not even sure I want to use TF3D at all.

[bliind]

I was really interested in flashing this ROM to my device, and it was the first one I attempted to do.. however, after everything was installed, WM would boot and a white screen would cover everything saying "Thank you for using the beta version of this product." and wouldn't let me do anything...

I tried 4.6 Standard.

[NotATreoFan]

Update:

Sorry for the lack of new versions... I got called into an emergency DR test for my company... 16 hour shifts yesterday, today, tomorrow, and Tuesday.

The good news is that I have my laptop with me, so I can work on the ROMs from the freezing-cold data center. :)

[nkrick]

I got called into an emergency DR test for my company...

What exactly is an "emergency DR test?" I work in IT too, and we have DR tests (which are not emergencies) and a DR situation (which would be an emergency). Also, who decides to perform a DR test on Mother's Day weekend? I'm glad I'm not you, my wife would have killed me if I worked 16 hours on Mother's Day. Hope they compensate you for the extra time (either with extra $ or with extra time off).

[NotATreoFan]

What exactly is an "emergency DR test?" I work in IT too, and we have DR tests (which are not emergencies) and a DR situation (which would be an emergency). Also, who decides to perform a DR test on Mother's Day weekend? I'm glad I'm not you, my wife would have killed me if I worked 16 hours on Mother's Day. Hope they compensate you for the extra time (either with extra $ or with extra time off).

It's an emergency test because they failed an internal audit that stipulated we should have done one 2 months ago. :eek: Luckily I am non-exempt, so I get boatloads of OT for this. :D

[zaphoid0]

As a great admirer of the NATF ROMs, let me add that I will add a bounty if you could integrate SPB Mobile Shell into the wm 6.5 ROM you cook. I've tried a few wm6.5 ROMs and although they work okay initially with Mobile shell; they stop at the first soft-reset! I got $20 towards a bounty! Anyone else?

[rfedeli]

Thanks for putting this together! I'm in love with how much smoother your ROM operates than the original. I very much like the style and look as well. Keep up the good work!

[darrylhadfield]

Update:

Sorry for the lack of new versions... I got called into an emergency DR test for my company... 16 hour shifts yesterday, today, tomorrow, and Tuesday.

The good news is that I have my laptop with me, so I can work on the ROMs from the freezing-cold data center. :)

I'm new to the ROM scene, but am digging into it, now.. I'm liking everything I've read about your 6.5 ROM, and hope to have enough info such that I can actually push for my first ROM flash in the next few weeks, provided I can get my butt in gear and finish off two data center migration planning sessions..

If you don't mind me intruding... who d'you work for?

I ask, since I work for a company that has a reeeeeeally big data center at 401 N. Broad in Philly... that has freezing cold data centers.. that "emergency DR exercises" happen in.. ;)

D.

[NotATreoFan]

I'm new to the ROM scene, but am digging into it, now.. I'm liking everything I've read about your 6.5 ROM, and hope to have enough info such that I can actually push for my first ROM flash in the next few weeks, provided I can get my butt in gear and finish off two data center migration planning sessions..

If you don't mind me intruding... who d'you work for?

I ask, since I work for a company that has a reeeeeeally big data center at 401 N. Broad in Philly... that has freezing cold data centers.. that "emergency DR exercises" happen in.. ;)

D.

I'm sitting in one of your data centers... Room 713 to be exact. ;) I'll be here until at least 9PM, so feel free to stop by if you like.

[g2tl]

I'm sitting in one of your data centers... Room 713 to be exact. ;) I'll be here until at least 9PM, so feel free to stop by if you like.

Watch out, he might be your boss! :p

[NotATreoFan]

Watch out, he might be your boss! :p

Nobody I work with owns a Windows Mobile device... they barely know what one is!

...besides, he works for the company where we test, not for my company.

[jamespaulritter]

I haven't seen anyone mention this at all, and not sure why I'm having this issue (fairly consistently). When I reply or forward and email (gmail and/or Exchange, for example), the Fuze will come to a near halt, or will freeze entirely. At that point I've had to remove the battery. I didn't have this issue with v4.4 or 4.5.

My work around is using "menu" and "add recipient" but it's a pain if I don't have that contact in my phone already. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'd love it if this mysteriously went away in v4.7, but I'm assuming that it hasn't been seen...so will remain. Thanks for any suggestions.

I have the exact same problem.

[badnaam]

OK, bluetooth was working fine, paired with my headset as well as my acura nav system.

Now, when I turn on bluetooth either using comm manager or settings->bluetooth->turn bluetooth on, it does not connect to my acura or naything else. Strangely I see the bluetooth icon on the today page at the top task bar and comm mgr says its on, but when I goto settings-> bluetooth the "turn on bluetooth" check box is checked off, even thuogh I checked it on a few minutes back.

ANyone seen this?

thanks

[JSmid6]

I use activesync with an exchange server for the company I worked for, however I no longer work there so i'd like to keep my contacts, is there an easy way to transfer the contacts to my phone and keep them there, so I don't have to use activesync? if I delete the server connection it will delete all my contacts from my phone.

Thanks

[NotATreoFan]

I use activesync with an exchange server for the company I worked for, however I no longer work there so i'd like to keep my contacts, is there an easy way to transfer the contacts to my phone and keep them there, so I don't have to use activesync? if I delete the server connection it will delete all my contacts from my phone.

Thanks

PIM Backup should work.

[onimura2]

if there ispossible please keep the old version of IE like NATF 4.6, your room is the only one that works with uptodate a very importante medical aplication, by the way many collegues from hospital give greetings to you and keep the good work with the room :)

[badnaam]

OK, bluetooth was working fine, paired with my headset as well as my acura nav system.

Now, when I turn on bluetooth either using comm manager or settings->bluetooth->turn bluetooth on, it does not connect to my acura or naything else. Strangely I see the bluetooth icon on the today page at the top task bar and comm mgr says its on, but when I goto settings-> bluetooth the "turn on bluetooth" check box is checked off, even thuogh I checked it on a few minutes back.

ANyone seen this?

thanks

guys - any thoughts on this. This problem is making the 4.6 verison of the rom very unusable, I do a lot of calls in my car and now I can't.

[OK Dog]

guys - any thoughts on this. This problem is making the 4.6 verison of the rom very unusable, I do a lot of calls in my car and now I can't.

did it work then stop or nevrr work?

[clavace]

I use activesync with an exchange server for the company I worked for, however I no longer work there so i'd like to keep my contacts, is there an easy way to transfer the contacts to my phone and keep them there, so I don't have to use activesync? if I delete the server connection it will delete all my contacts from my phone.

Thanks

If the contacts are on your phone as mine are as well as your server and you have a computer at home you should be able to set up a new activesync with your home computer and your contacts should sync and copy to outlook. This way if you update the ROM you would be able to put your address book as well as any programs back on your phone again...not sure if this is what you were looking for but just another suggestion.

[drugusv]

when is come out v4.7? :)

[Jdilla]

guys - any thoughts on this. This problem is making the 4.6 verison of the rom very unusable, I do a lot of calls in my car and now I can't.

If anything, assuming you havent already tried, is to back up via PIM and just reflash. Ive had some odd things go on with previous versions and a reflash never hurt and usually fixes it.

[badnaam]

did it work then stop or nevrr work?

It did work for a bit and then it stopped. NOw I can bluetooth with my laptop or car or anything.

[godsaveusmicks]

Prepping for a release tomorrow night. Here's one more day for opinions/suggestions on how to tailor v4.7...

If you add Facebook to the kitchen, please add the official release that was just completed. It's a lot less buggy and slow than the leaked version a month ago.

[masterbrsp]

Everyting where being all right until I set up my home wifi connection.

In my home Wifi I've to put a fix IP and DNS, (not automatic).

When I start using the wifi connection it works fine, but after that, my 3G connection do not work anymore, if I use IP address to navegate, it works but by URL not, even if I set my wifi connection to automatic set the DNS back. The only way to make the 3G works again is deleting the wifi connection.

Some times the GPS stop working too, in that case, only a hard reset can make it works back again.

[bhjphd]

OK, bluetooth was working fine, paired with my headset as well as my acura nav system.

Now, when I turn on bluetooth either using comm manager or settings->bluetooth->turn bluetooth on, it does not connect to my acura or naything else. Strangely I see the bluetooth icon on the today page at the top task bar and comm mgr says its on, but when I goto settings-> bluetooth the "turn on bluetooth" check box is checked off, even thuogh I checked it on a few minutes back.

ANyone seen this?

thanks
Most definitely...thought it was just me...it seems when I get in the car, I loose connection to both and the bluetooth is unchecked... guess it must be some kind of a bug..

[wdkingery]

Everyting where being all right until I set up my home wifi connection.

In my home Wifi I've to put a fix IP and DNS, (not automatic).

When I start using the wifi connection it works fine, but after that, my 3G connection do not work anymore, if I use IP address to navegate, it works but by URL not, even if I set my wifi connection to automatic set the DNS back. The only way to make the 3G works again is deleting the wifi connection.

Some times the GPS stop working too, in that case, only a hard reset can make it works back again.

i had that problem too; infact, i ran all up and down this rom tryin to figure out why my data would stop workin within hours. it was related to settin the static ip; it messed with the data for me. i eventually gave up which sux; i am home mostly with wifi abundant but i use my EDGE 106k/s to send photos to my g/f at work :(

[drugusv]

hi NATF, v4.7 will be on win mobile 6.5 based?

[digitalmatrixio]

hi NATF, v4.7 will be on win mobile 6.5 based?

NATF said 4.7 will be a 6.1 build
He is working on 5.0 to be his first 6.5 release.

[TurboX2]

bumping from second page. Any news from 4.7?

[turtle2472]

How can I get rid of the proxy settings in Opera? I use ISP APN and if fails with Opera. I've removed hidden proxies etc. Mail works, weather works but Opera fails. When I attempt to download something from the web it fails because Opera tries to open to handle the transfer. Actually, I'd rather just use Pocket IE. It works better for my minimal net usage.

[OK Dog]

I am trying out 6.5 while waiting for 4.7 or 5.0 and loving it. I can't wait for NATF 6.5 ROM. Thanks for all your time you put into your roms.

[aballz]

Hi

Has anyone else had this issue, when you send a text message. The message gets sent to the number 1 instead of the contact and ending up getting a message can not be sent error? This doesn't happen all the time, but often enough for me to be annoyed.

[D3TH METAL]

Can't wait for 5.0!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D

[ttres]

Hi

Has anyone else had this issue, when you send a text message. The message gets sent to the number 1 instead of the contact and ending up getting a message can not be sent error? This doesn't happen all the time, but often enough for me to be annoyed.

I've had the same issue. It gets sent to the first number instead of the full phone number. I haven't found a work around, unfortunately, and a reset doesn't seem to help.

[matthewjayala]

For some reason my data connection stopped working and AT&T what me to change my proxy sever how do i do that and what shoudl it be?

[telegraph0000]

Weather Master fails at startup...did I miss something?

[krook6023]

4.6 has been great. What about cooking in a version of Pandora for 4.7?

[GldRush98]

4.6 has been great. What about cooking in a version of Pandora for 4.7?
There is no VGA version of Pandora that is free...

[garyfunk]

4.6 has been great. What about cooking in a version of Pandora for 4.7?

What about give a link to it?

[Qasmi]

Generally NATF ROMs are pretty stable even though I had issues with 4.6 and then I switched back to 4.5. I would love to see a stock cab to be added to TF3D in the newer ROM plus a Detacher for TF3D or a Second Today.

cheers,

qasim

[halfelite]

Hi

Has anyone else had this issue, when you send a text message. The message gets sent to the number 1 instead of the contact and ending up getting a message can not be sent error? This doesn't happen all the time, but often enough for me to be annoyed.


Also happens to me. Only done it once so far though.

[krook6023]

4.6 has been great. What about cooking in a version of Pandora for 4.7?

What about give a link to it?

I have been using this CAB download (http://mq.roeiboot.com/apps/pandora.cab).
It does not look perfect (prob b/c I am using it on VGA) but after you get used to it it's very funtional on the Touch Pro.

[drugusv]

when is come out v4.7 ?????????????

[Mr_Armageddon]

I'm sure this has already been brought up, but I just wanted to add my vote for adding the newest version of TouchFlo3D (From the Touch Pro II) in the v4.7 ROM, or at least the best features from the new version.

I know there are already a few upgrades from that version in your current ROMs, but more of the same would be appreciated.

Can't wait to see what you come up with. Thanks.

[wildace408]

Has anyone else had this issue, when you send a text message. The message gets sent to the number 1 instead of the contact and ending up getting a message can not be sent error? This doesn't happen all the time, but often enough for me to be annoyed.

I've had the same issue. It gets sent to the first number instead of the full phone number. I haven't found a work around, unfortunately, and a reset doesn't seem to help.


Also happens to me. Only done it once so far though.

What rom are you using? If i remember right this was a known bug in 4.6 rom. It happens when you use the tf3d auto complete in the name field (the black box on the bottom) but the work around is to use the windows auto compete (the white box right under the to: field).

[TurboX2]

Sheps rom used to have the problem u state above, but now it doesnt, so its definately avoidable.

[htcfan78]

http://www.trade9shoes.com :p

SPAMMER!!!!!!!!! Go find a different forum you g00b!

[LITANG]

NATF's Fuze and Touch Pro ROMs
| Current Release: v4.6 | April 14th, 2009 |


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[halfelite]

What rom are you using? If i remember right this was a known bug in 4.6 rom. It happens when you use the tf3d auto complete in the name field (the black box on the bottom) but the work around is to use the windows auto compete (the white box right under the to: field).

Im using the 4.7. But i will check your work around.

[darwinmach]

Im using the 4.7. But i will check your work around.

How did you get 4.7? (NATF 4.7?) :)

[Knumb]

NATF- all I would like is a totally gutted, stripped out version; like an ultra-lite version. All I ask is you to leave in TF3D. I keep having trouble taking all of the useless apps out of the ROM when I cook. I will add the apps that I use...Always liked your ROMS since the Tilt.

[rvt1000]

duplicate post

[rvt1000]

quick question: i'm thinking about doing my first flash this weekend with NATF but had one question for you using these rom's. How is the phone's battery life?

I've read that with some ROM's, like ENERGY, it eats more battery then stock rom. How about NATF - ie, does this rom use MORE or LESS energy then the stock att rom? The field I work in, I use my apps often but am not able to charge it until late night so I've got to make sure my battery life isn't affected in a negative way....
thx.B

[babydown]

Hic ,how long of "Coming very soon" ? I'm waiting too long :((

[regius]

Hic ,how long of "Coming very soon" ? I'm waiting too long :((

NATF is doing all this hard work in his free time, and he does not charge you or anyone else for it, so my guess is you will get it whenever it is ready

[LBCta]

quick question: i'm thinking about doing my first flash this weekend with NATF but had one question for you using these rom's. How is the phone's battery life?

I've read that with some ROM's, like ENERGY, it eats more battery then stock rom. How about NATF - ie, does this rom use MORE or LESS energy then the stock att rom? The field I work in, I use my apps often but am not able to charge it until late night so I've got to make sure my battery life isn't affected in a negative way....
thx.B

Battery life improved significantly for me over the stock. NATF's ROMs are very stable and fast. Things are well organized and you can definitely see the amount of time and quality work he put into it. You'll find there's a lot more room for your apps in storage memory than with the stock too.

[Tofferbear]

quick question: i'm thinking about doing my first flash this weekend with NATF but had one question for you using these rom's. How is the phone's battery life?

I've read that with some ROM's, like ENERGY, it eats more battery then stock rom. How about NATF - ie, does this rom use MORE or LESS energy then the stock att rom? The field I work in, I use my apps often but am not able to charge it until late night so I've got to make sure my battery life isn't affected in a negative way....
thx.B

I've found it's less about the ROM and more about the RADIO. I tend to try use the radio that matches the .dll that comes in the ROM and battery life seems to always be better than stock. If the radio and .dll are mismatched (or if you use a radio that just doesn't perform well) then the battery is sucked up much much faster.

just my $.02

[NotATreoFan]

Update on my life:

After the nightmare DR test completed last week [48.25 hrs OT :D], I then had to go and cover another site for 8 days due to vacation. I am now in day 7 of that cover, which is a 12-9pm shift, so it's really screwing with my internal clock. I have my portable kitchen with me, and I've been working on the ROMs as much as time allows, but since I'm also going through the ultra-stressful process of buying my first house, WM/XDA had to take the backseat for a while. Due to this house being a foreclosure, it turns out that an extra lien was not discovered until this morning, so now closing has been pushed back to mid-June. :mad:


Now, some updates on the ROMs:

I'm strongly considering rolling back to the 207xx OS that 4.5 was based on due to the issues with lag, and HTC's autocomplete. The only downside found so far with the older OS is that the Rhodium Notifications do not work. The new Comm Manager [and all of it's submenus] still does.

Unfortunately, I lost all of the WM6.5 work I had done when my laptop's HDD experienced a hiccup last week, so I need to start all over with it. :mad::mad:

After I release the new ROMs, hopefully this weekend, I will work on redesigning the kitchen to be more user-friendly with regards to removing items not wanted in the build.

[htcfan78]

Update on my life:

After the nightmare DR test completed last week [48.25 hrs OT :D], I then had to go and cover another site for 8 days due to vacation. I am now in day 7 of that cover, which is a 12-9pm shift, so it's really screwing with my internal clock. I have my portable kitchen with me, and I've been working on the ROMs as much as time allows, but since I'm also going through the ultra-stressful process of buying my first house, WM/XDA had to take the backseat for a while. Due to this house being a foreclosure, it turns out that an extra lien was not discovered until this morning, so now closing has been pushed back to mid-June. :mad:


Sounds like you need a couple of interns to help out and a vacation until about mid-June.

[rvt1000]

thanks for the info....will find a suitable radio to minimze battery life issues.....when selecting a radio, does it matter based on carrier or location or what? I'm ATT in So Cal so any radio I should particularly be looking at??

Hey natf....the flipside on your home purchase is since you're a virgin buyer, you get 8K back!! I just got my tax rebate in the mail yesterday and after my 1st home purchase, i got 11.5K back....that's crazy and makes your entire week!!! So come next year around this time, you're gonna be one happy dude.

[miscom]

First I want to thanks NATF for an awesome job. I don't hate my Fuze any more.

Battery Life. I start my work day at 5:30am every day.
Stock ROM: By 3pm battery would be at 10% or 15%
NATF 4.6: 58% by 5pm
Radio with both ROMs: 1.02.25.32

Stability:
Stock ROM: Almost a daily reset.
NATF 4.6: I flashed the this ROM last Sunday. My Fuze is still running great. Almost 5 days now!

Applications installed in both cases:
Pocket Mechanic (Latest version)
Blackberry Service (4.0.0.106) I must add that I've never seen BB Connect so stable and fast. I get from 300 to 500 messages a day.
FdcSkft task manager
Garmin Mobile XT --> I get now a GPS lock in a few seconds. It used to take several minutes. I haven't tested the lag issue yet. But I will be traveling soon.
Google Maps
Windows Live Search
Resco Explorer 7.05
Panoramic Calc Pro
Opera 9 Build 15445 with both ROMs
SHAPE Services IM+
Sophos Mobile Security

Total Storage available: 263MB (I used to have around 100MB)

[baeshin81]

all i heard was crappy home purchase with mucho problemo...im so sorry...i wish i could have been there to help you on that buddy

but ALSO!!!

i heard...

6.5 rom
im excited!

and then i heard this weekend!$#!%!#%!%#
then i almost "jizzed in my pants"

any idea of what u mite include...i been going back and forth from 6.5 roms and your 6.1 roms...

suggestions...facebook...msvc...flashlights just for fun reasons...opera...make sure that the text messages clear when u read that general thread...not each freakin message...no delay in ring when someone calls...there is usually a 2 ring delay meaning that someone calls...it rings twice for the called but nothing happens for the reciever until the third ring...you miss alot of call this way...other than that...those are the major problems right now...i really have confidence that you will be able to handle such a task...


good luck with the house move...i know its a krajie thing but all worth it in the end...

[PolkaBear]

Is there a way to build slide-to-unlock functionality into the ROM? If so, then it would top my list of desiderata. (Is it already there and I've just missed it?)

I've been having problems with 4.6 playing well with S2U2: lock-ups requiring a stylus reset or quirky behavior with the screen (usually shortly before a lock-up). It didn't happen with NATF's v. 4.0, the previous ROM that I had been using. Since some sort of slide-to-unlock is a must-have app for my purposes (otherwise my toddler screws up my phone royally whenever he gets his curious grasping fingers on it, and keeping my phone in my pocket leads to funky things) the frequent lock-ups and resets are a painful problem.

I'd be interested to know (1) if anyone else has had this problem with 4.6, or (2) if there are other solutions out there than S2U2 (which admittedly has a lot of nice features).

[LBCta]

thanks for the info....will find a suitable radio to minimze battery life issues.....when selecting a radio, does it matter based on carrier or location or what? I'm ATT in So Cal so any radio I should particularly be looking at??

Hey natf....the flipside on your home purchase is since you're a virgin buyer, you get 8K back!! I just got my tax rebate in the mail yesterday and after my 1st home purchase, i got 11.5K back....that's crazy and makes your entire week!!! So come next year around this time, you're gonna be one happy dude.

1.12.25.19 is a great for SoCal AT&T, the link to it is in my sig. Besides being good on the battery and reception/call quality, the GPS works much better too.

[dbaser]

Now, some updates on the ROMs:

I'm strongly considering rolling back to the 207xx OS that 4.5 was based on due to the issues with lag, and HTC's autocomplete. The only downside found so far with the older OS is that the Rhodium Notifications do not work. The new Comm Manager [and all of it's submenus] still does.



jmckeejr has a ROM that is based on 20771 AND the new notifications work. I have been running it for the past week and battery life is great and it is quite responsive.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511569

Maybe do something like this but with the usual NATF spin? ;)

[NotATreoFan]

jmckeejr has a ROM that is based on 20771 AND the new notifications work. I have been running it for the past week and battery life is great and it is quite responsive.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511569

Maybe do something like this but with the usual NATF spin? ;)

I was able to locate a copy of 20771, so I'll play with it today, and see how it works. Thanks for the tip. :)

[DrunkenOstrich]

1.12.25.19 is a great for SoCal AT&T, the link to it is in my sig. Besides being good on the battery and reception/call quality, the GPS works much better too.

Awesome info dude, I'm also in LB. Have been waiting to hear what someone has found is a good radio for this area. I'm using 1.02.25.32 w/ NATF 4.4 (and previous versions going back to 1.x) and have never thought it was all that great of a radio for SoCal. GPS takes a long time to lock, and has to be right under the windshield, wont work from my hand in the driver seat. My Nokia E71 gets an instant lock from inside a building!!

Thanks!

[LBCta]

Awesome info dude, I'm also in LB. Have been waiting to hear what someone has found is a good radio for this area. I'm using 1.02.25.32 w/ NATF 4.4 (and previous versions going back to 1.x) and have never thought it was all that great of a radio for SoCal. GPS takes a long time to lock, and has to be right under the windshield, wont work from my hand in the driver seat. My Nokia E71 gets an instant lock from inside a building!!

Thanks!

No prob man. Wish my raph could get a lock indoors! But I'm sure you'll see an improvement with 1.12.25.19. You should think about upgrading to NATF's 4.5 or 4.6 since they're based off the leaked AT&T ROM. From what I've read, that radio works best with ROMs based off the leaked one, and gotta say I agree. Then again, NATF said he might release 4.7 this weekend, can't wait! :D

[NotATreoFan]

...Then again, NATF said he might release 4.7 this weekend, can't wait! :D

I'm pounding away at it now. I'm still having issues getting the Rhodium Notifications/Menu Enhancements to work, but I think I'm going to release 4.7 with everything else added/changed, and continue to work on the Rhodium stuff in the background.

[LBCta]

I'm pounding away at it now. I'm still having issues getting the Rhodium Notifications/Menu Enhancements to work, but I think I'm going to release 4.7 with everything else added/changed, and continue to work on the Rhodium stuff in the background.

Awesome! Just wanna say NATF, thank you very much for the outstanding ROMs and really appreciate the countless hours of hard work you must put into them! Good luck with the house dude, hope everything works out come mid-June.

[D3TH METAL]

Awesome info dude, I'm also in LB. Have been waiting to hear what someone has found is a good radio for this area. I'm using 1.02.25.32 w/ NATF 4.4 (and previous versions going back to 1.x) and have never thought it was all that great of a radio for SoCal. GPS takes a long time to lock, and has to be right under the windshield, wont work from my hand in the driver seat. My Nokia E71 gets an instant lock from inside a building!!

Thanks!

.19 works great for me anywhere in socal :)

[rvt1000]

I installed my first ROM with NATF today with the help of Kareem9NBA :)

I have run in to a bit of snafu and wanted to get some input. On the stock ROM, I could change my background with SPBMS 3 to a regular picture which worked fine. now post NATF being flashed, SPB won't let me change the background to me image or even the other spb background images provided, it just freezes when i try changing the image and on soft reset, goes back to the original image.
any input??

UPDATE: now i've noticed another bug. when i have a text and open my keyboard, the phone freezes and i have to soft reset.....very annoying..... am i doing something wrong here??

[DrunkenOstrich]

.19 works great for me anywhere in socal :)

Thanks dude! I work in OC (Anaheim) so that is good to know too.

Is there anything I need to do to install the rilphone2.dll file in the download of the radio, or does NATF ROm already have this? (I'm going to 4.5 for stability sake)

[LBCta]

Thanks dude! I work in OC (Anaheim) so that is good to know too.

Is there anything I need to do to install the rilphone2.dll file in the download of the radio, or does NATF ROm already have this? (I'm going to 4.5 for stability sake)

NATF's Fuze ROMs already have it for 1.12.25.19, so you don't need to touch it. I've never messed with the rilphone.dll and the radio has worked perfectly for me.

[rvt1000]

...I have run in to a bit of snafu and wanted to get some input. On the stock ROM, I could change my background with SPBMS 3 to a regular picture which worked fine. now post NATF being flashed, SPB won't let me change the background to me image or even the other spb background images provided, it just freezes when i try changing the image and on soft reset, goes back to the original image.
any input??

UPDATE: now i've noticed another bug. when i have a text and open my keyboard, the phone freezes and i have to soft reset.....very annoying..... am i doing something wrong here??


First off, the .19 radio is working great. No issues at all for me thus far in the So CAl......

So for anyone who cares or has had a similar issue, after many hard resets and trying 4.5 with the same issues, I went back to 4.6 and I've narrowed down NATF and SPBMS 3 not playing well with one of the following apps: SPB backup, sensor scroll, resco bubbles, igrecway hangman, touch pro super pack games, or what I think is really doing it, FM radio cab. I'm gonna keep things minimal since everything is working fine right now but I think the FM radio cab or SPB backup are causing it. Maybe it's the FM Cab providing feed to the hardware that's intefereing with SPBMS's use of the graphic accelerator. Doesn't make any sense to me but that's all I can think of. So in the meantime, I'm keeping the FM cab and SPB backup off the phone and will put the other cabs back on and see how it goes. if anyone has similar issues or any input, twould be greatly appreciated.

[Jdilla]

This has been discussed a lot here and I think it needs to be officially stated that, across the board, using .19 radio is the best all over California. Luckily NATF has added the correct .dll for that in his ROM. So if you live in California, switch to the .19 :D

[andrewstrauss]

Is there a way to build slide-to-unlock functionality into the ROM? If so, then it would top my list of desiderata. (Is it already there and I've just missed it?)

I've been having problems with 4.6 playing well with S2U2: lock-ups requiring a stylus reset or quirky behavior with the screen (usually shortly before a lock-up). It didn't happen with NATF's v. 4.0, the previous ROM that I had been using. Since some sort of slide-to-unlock is a must-have app for my purposes (otherwise my toddler screws up my phone royally whenever he gets his curious grasping fingers on it, and keeping my phone in my pocket leads to funky things) the frequent lock-ups and resets are a painful problem.

I'd be interested to know (1) if anyone else has had this problem with 4.6, or (2) if there are other solutions out there than S2U2 (which admittedly has a lot of nice features).

I have also been having some serious stability issues for a while, and also believe that s2u2 is the problem. The problems have occured for several different NaTF 4.x roms. I am also pretty sure that s2u2 is at fault and not the rom, but don't have any data to back that up. S2u2 has been getting more stabile with each version. 3 versions back, it was a DISASTER with this rom. It is really strange b/c really old verisons of s2u2 ran perfectly on my kaiser, and on 2.x and 3.x NaTF roms.

Also, I have some friends who have been having reliability issues with NaTF+s2u2 as well, but we haven't nailed down the reason just yet.

I love s2u2 and would hate not being able to run it, but would stop using it if I couldn't get it to work well w/ NaTF

[PolkaBear]

I love s2u2 and would hate not being able to run it, but would stop using it if I couldn't get it to work well w/ NaTF

I just came across ThrottleLock. I'm going to install it and see how it performs with NATF's 4.x ROMs. It doesn't look to have quite the features of S2U2; but it might get us an unlocking app that does the job well without problems. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419525

- PB

[SOULd OUT]

Sorry to add another thing to the, I'm sure, already huge list of things to pack into the next-gen ROMs--or if i'm too late to add this--but, for the WM 6.5 ROM can you please add .NET CF 3.5. (Or a way to uninstall 2.0.)

Reason I ask, if you're not already doing this, is because I briefly tried Da_g's 6.5 build and it only has 2.0 which doesn't work with some of my programs.

My best regards, your ROMs have been great so far. ;)

[turtle2472]

I don't recall if I mentioned this request or not, but could you please allow a version of Opera that doesn't require AT&T's proxy servers? Or maybe the ability to make IE the default browser.

I'm sure you are well into getting this version released, but thought I'd at least ask anyway. :)

[GermanGuy]

Or maybe the ability to make IE the default browser

To make IE the default browser, install this cab.

[turtle2472]

To make IE the default browser, install this cab.

Thank you very much! :)

[NotATreoFan]

OK... The Fuze Standard version is ready, and now I just need to copy all the changes over to the other kitchens. I'm off from work tomorrow, so I'll probably pull a late night getting everything uploaded.

[Elrendhel]

Hello NATF!

Thank you for your hard work!

Hopefully I'll be able to afford to buy you a beer (finally!) on my next paycheck!

[ttres]

I've gone over to NATF's Lite version and in 4.4 and 4.5 I've had a problem using the volume control to increase or decrease the volume during a phone call. In the Standard version, I've replaced the Audio file and used the Diamond Tweak with great success, but now using the volume up/down changes the system volume w/o affecting the volume of the phone call itself. Has anyone else encountered this? My apologies if this has been addressed. I haven't been able to find it, so if you can direct me I'd really appreciate it. Many thanks.

[debrat98]

OK... The Fuze Standard version is ready, and now I just need to copy all the changes over to the other kitchens. I'm off from work tomorrow, so I'll probably pull a late night getting everything uploaded.

I am sure I speak for others as well when I say that the anticipation is crazy for the release of this version. NATF thanks for all your hard work and I am sure the wait will be worth it. Keeping an eye on this thread and refreshing every few min......:)

[NotATreoFan]

During last night's upload, I realized I missed an important registry entry, so now the fixed versions are uploading.

[onimura2]

Waiting :):):):):):)
Keep the good work

[shwag01]

Can't wait for this as well as the 6.5, I've been running Da_G's latest and it is superb on battery life.

[NotATreoFan]

v4.7 Rapidshare links are up! The direct links will be up later... I've gotta run out for a bit.

[garyfunk]

v4.7 Rapidshare links are up! The direct links will be up later... I've gotta run out for a bit.

A new ROM to install. Well, installing. Thanks Todd.

[greygabe]

awww - no in-call recording :(
lol oh well
Still very excited to have a new ROM - thanks a ton man!

[smis]

password is not working.

[jamespaulritter]

I dont see the link for the 4.7 download.

[smis]

you need to go to the first post has all the info.

[rareness4]

I get an error when extracting. It'll say an error about RaphaelWrapper(not worried about since I have a copy), but the .nbh doesn't show up in the folder, folder is empty.

[ttres]

you need to go to the first post has all the info.

Were you able to extract with the standard password? I haven't been able to.

[lutz890]

I dont see the link for the 4.7 download.

Cuz NATF copy and paste 4.6's description. The links in the first section are for 4.7.

[jamespaulritter]

you need to go to the first post has all the info.

I swear there is no download link for version 4.7 in post 4 on the front page. I have been checking daily and I cant find it.

[jamespaulritter]

OIC,,,,,, 4.7 in under the header of 4.7 but its labeled as 4.6

[smis]

I tried to copy the links here but the links were not showing up.

[furntree]

Post edited out to avoid confusion regarding extraction password.

[ttres]

EDIT - The password is

NATF V4 Series

With a capital V

Nice work. Thanks for that.

[NotATreoFan]

EDIT - The password is

NATF V4 Series

With a capital V

Did not realize I accidentally capped the V. I'll re-upload everything later with the normal password.


p.s. typing from my Wii inbetween rounds of Punch-Out!!...

[TurboX2]

ahh thanks that was bugging the hell out of me, thanks

That was quite the crisis just after the point that i was able to finally download what was probibly the most eagerly anticipated ROM all year.

[rareness4]

EDIT - The password is

NATF V4 Series

With a capital V

thanks, this worked

[stevedogg]

Looks like there's a new one on HTC's website here (http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=198&cat=2&dl_id=553).

[NotATreoFan]

Looks like there's a new one on HTC's website here (http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=198&cat=2&dl_id=553).

I love how the Fuze update is not suitable for my Fuze...

[harpo1]

I love how the Fuze update is not suitable for my Fuze...

What do you mean?

[NotATreoFan]

What do you mean?

The HTC site won't take my S/N.

[Da_G]

try again in ~4 hours :) (don't you love the timing, right after your release! dohhh)

[NotATreoFan]

try again in ~4 hours :) (don't you love the timing, right after your release! dohhh)

:mad: They intentionally waited until my long-delayed ROM finally came out! :mad:

[D3TH METAL]

:mad: They intentionally waited until my long-delayed ROM finally came out! :mad:

doh!!!!! V4.7 running fine!

[l3it3r]

Wow.. an official Fuze update? Cool beans. I'll be putting 4.7 on for now. I hope that I can get it to work under Windows 7....

[D3TH METAL]

Wow.. an official Fuze update? Cool beans. I'll be putting 4.7 on for now. I hope that I can get it to work under Windows 7....

Working great on my win 7, painless installation

[josbald1975]

The HTC site won't take my S/N.

There's a number of people on the AT&T forum indicating they contacted HTC about the S/N issues and the techs have said to wait until 12:01 tonight to get the updated ROM as the link isn't supposed to be available until tomorrow.

patience :)

http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&message.id=116889

[l3it3r]

Working great on my win 7, painless installation

Yeah, went through just fine for me too! Only thing was when it wanted to install the Driver after starting up the Raphael wrapper. I had to let that finish - the wrapper timed out - and then restart the upgrade process.

I love win 7 btw :p

Thanks NATF!! Will be spending the rest of the night updating everything.

[telegraph0000]

Hmmm...just flashed to .7 and...no Rhodium? I see Opera update, slick IM and so on...but no Rhodium...

[jamespaulritter]

Hmmmm,,,, an official Fuze update. Really,,, can it be better than NATF 4.7?

[NotATreoFan]

Direct links are up, kitchens are uploading now... gotta love being able to upload @ 270kb/sec!

[NotATreoFan]

Hmmm...just flashed to .7 and...no Rhodium? I see Opera update, slick IM and so on...but no Rhodium...

Rhodium TF3D requires a 21xxx OS build, so unless 21046 pans out/shows to be stable, then it will not make the cut.

[NotATreoFan]

Kitchen links are up, and a new 4.7 Standard (with the usual password) is also up.

[Surelock]

Just popping in to say - many thanks!

[jab5868]

EDIT - The password is

NATF V4 Series

With a capital V

I cannot extract - while extracting I error out. This is my error message:

Extracting RaphaelWrapper.exe Error: CRC mismatch in file "RaphaelWrapper.exe" in the archive "D:\Documents and Settings\barriosj\Desktop\New Folder\NATF_Fuze_Standard_v4.7.rar" - possible wrong password.

Help

[NotATreoFan]

I cannot extract - while extracting I error out. This is my error message:

Extracting RaphaelWrapper.exe Error: CRC mismatch in file "RaphaelWrapper.exe" in the archive "D:\Documents and Settings\barriosj\Desktop\New Folder\NATF_Fuze_Standard_v4.7.rar" - possible wrong password.

Help

Scroll up 2 posts. ;) [not counting this one]

[jab5868]

Scroll up 2 posts. ;) [not counting this one]

I am using NATF V4 Series as a password, am I missing something here? :(

[thatruth132]

I USED' NATF V4 Series ' COPY AND PASTE IT

[186227]

How do I get rid of the large menu? The menu I'm talking about is when trying to email and hit menu. The menu is real big. I prefer the original menu size.

[Knumb]

Definitely good job on the ROM NATF!! Keep up the great work!

[D3TH METAL]

NATF, I can receive text messages but no one is getting mine...

[D3TH METAL]

NATF, I can receive text messages but no one is getting mine...



fixed it...reflashed and hard reset.

[telegraph0000]

Where may I be able to find 4.5?

Edit:
Never mind. Found it. I feel that 4.5 is the most stable, as I loaded Rhodium to it and it runs flawlessly, no lag, no problems.

[l3it3r]

I USED' NATF V4 Series ' COPY AND PASTE IT

The links are now using the usual password of NATF v4 Series

[ttres]

I have to be doing something dumb, but I'm still having trouble with the volume control using the Lite ROM.

During a call, Volume Up/Down changes the system volume, but it's not increasing/decreasing the call volume in any way. I'm using Diamond Tweak and S2U2, but settings in those programs aren't changing things. I had the same issue with previous Lite ROMS, but not with the Standard, so I'm assuming I'm just missing a setting somewhere. Loving the Lite, and don't want to go back.

Anyone have any suggestions? Many thanks.

[godashram]

smal issues... running final burn, some roms will not run claiming video memory issures. dropping the file system cache size in advanced config to 2mb fixes it, but slows the phone a small bit

Kinoma Play to locks up. I haven't tried kinoma freeplay yet

everything else flies!

edit: downloading newest version of Kinoma Play seemed to work. a bit slow though.... reset cache to 8mb sped it up, but i loose final burn again... oh well!

[reedster5555]

Great job on the 4.7 ROM, and thanks as always!

Not sure if it is me, but I have not been able to get the phone to lock by holding down the end key.

I have it set to Automatically Execute the selected action: then Lock Device is selected.

Under buttons I have the long end key set to <none>

But when I hold the end key down it doesn't lock. Any thoughts?

It worked fine in 4.5 (skipped 4.6).

Thanks!

[yatrg]

I see in the changelog:

"Removed HTC In-Call Recording from AT&T Standard ROM (due to requirement of HTC S2A dialer... still included in HTC Standard ROM)."

Is it in the AT&T Lite? How about the AT&T Kitchen? If not, can I add it in later?

Thanks. Many of my favorite apps do not play well with 6.5, so if I get this flashed and working, it will probably be my last flash for this phone as I do not think there is much more development on 6.1. I am already feeling withdrawal symptoms.

[kopster]

I see in the changelog:

"Removed HTC In-Call Recording from AT&T Standard ROM (due to requirement of HTC S2A dialer... still included in HTC Standard ROM)."

Is it in the AT&T Lite? How about the AT&T Kitchen? If not, can I add it in later?



D/L & run the cab from this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3685600#post3685600) for ICR, it includes a proper dialer that will install over the top of the default dialer in the ROM.

I have not yet flashed 4.7, if someone already has and has used this cab as well, can you comment on the compitability with 4.7?

[NotATreoFan]

I see in the changelog:

"Removed HTC In-Call Recording from AT&T Standard ROM (due to requirement of HTC S2A dialer... still included in HTC Standard ROM)."

Is it in the AT&T Lite? How about the AT&T Kitchen? If not, can I add it in later?

Thanks. Many of my favorite apps do not play well with 6.5, so if I get this flashed and working, it will probably be my last flash for this phone as I do not think there is much more development on 6.1. I am already feeling withdrawal symptoms.

I did not include the ICR files in the AT&T kitchen, because they do not work with AT&T version of the PhoneCanvas. I uploaded them to RS if you want to use add them. NATF In Call Recording + Dialer (for cooking) (http://rapidshare.com/files/238271678/NATF_In_Call_Recording___Dialer__for_cooking_.zip)

If you want to add ICR without cooking, then follow my previous instructions for uninstalling a dialer, then install the HTC dialer attached to this post, then install the ICR CAB also attached.


Please Note: If you are going to swap the CAB + package into the kitchen for cooking, you need to edit the 'operator_config.txt' file under OperatorPKG in OEM, since it will be looking for the AT&T dialer during Initial Customization.

[reedster5555]

Just made a $20.00 donation. I think you are doing a great job. You took a borderline phone and made it rock solid useable. Keep up the great work!

[Akodo]

Hey NATF, a quick question for you.
In previous versions there was an XML file called ActionMenuItems, I used this to edit the buttons in landscape mode TF3D. However, in 4.7 I can't seem to find this file? Do you know what this has been renamed to?

[ttres]

I'm still having trouble with the volume control using the Lite ROM.

During a call, Volume Up/Down changes the system volume, but it's not increasing/decreasing the call volume in any way. I'm using Diamond Tweak and S2U2, but settings in those programs aren't changing things. I had the same issue with previous Lite ROMS, but not with the Standard, so I'm assuming I'm just missing a setting somewhere. Loving the Lite, and don't want to go back.


In case anyone runs into this problem, it seemed to be a conflict with both S2U2 and Diamond Tweak, both. Removing them plus a soft reset and my volume is blasting again using the replace Audio3 file.

v4.7 seems fantastic to this point, NATF. Great work, per usual. Many many thanks.

**I spoke too soon. This worked in the very short term where the volume up/down brought up a small volume control in the upper part of the screen, but then it reverted to controlling the System volume w/o affecting the call volume itself. Would still love to use the Lite version if anyone has any suggestions**

[silverkiller]

I gotta say, great job on the new ROM, never seen my phone slide so fast before :D:D

[NotATreoFan]

Hey NATF, a quick question for you.
In previous versions there was an XML file called ActionMenuItems, I used this to edit the buttons in landscape mode TF3D. However, in 4.7 I can't seem to find this file? Do you know what this has been renamed to?

I assume you are using one of the Lite ROMs. The file is still there, but I removed the line in Menu_Operation.xml that copies it to the correct folder, since Manila is not included in the Lite ROMs.

You will find the file in \Windows\. Disable TF3D, copy it to \Application Data\Manila\, and enable TF3D again.

[Akodo]

I'm actually using Fuze standard, which is why I was rather confused. Even a string search for some of the terms like "Yahoo" came up empty. I'll try your suggestion and see if it works.

EDIT: No luck, turned off TF3D and copied the modified XML file to /manila folder. Restarted TF3d and it's still showing Yahoo as the search provider.

[bakadude]

First of all, thanks for your hardwork! I like how snappy your roms are.

Now, first problem in 4.7, when I tap on a text on the message tab, it doesn't take me to reply right away, I have to click reply after the text is launch, this didn't happen on the previous released.

Also, I am not able to send any text. I send the text, but people can't receive them.

Anyone experience these issue?

[wildace408]

First of all, thanks for your hardwork! I like how snappy your roms are.

Now, first problem in 4.7, when I tap on a text on the message tab, it doesn't take me to reply right away, I have to click reply after the text is launch, this didn't happen on the previous released.

Also, I am not able to send any text. I send the text, but people can't receive them.

Anyone experience these issue?


I also had this problem at first. It also did not thread the text messages for me. But after reflashing (and hard reset after flash) it seems to be working now.

[NotATreoFan]

I'm actually using Fuze standard, which is why I was rather confused. Even a string search for some of the terms like "Yahoo" came up empty. I'll try your suggestion and see if it works.

EDIT: No luck, turned off TF3D and copied the modified XML file to /manila folder. Restarted TF3d and it's still showing Yahoo as the search provider.

I'm sorry... quoted the wrong advice. The file you need to edit is ActionMenuItems, but it is in the \Windows\ directory, not Application Data.

First of all, thanks for your hardwork! I like how snappy your roms are.

Now, first problem in 4.7, when I tap on a text on the message tab, it doesn't take me to reply right away, I have to click reply after the text is launch, this didn't happen on the previous released.

Also, I am not able to send any text. I send the text, but people can't receive them.

Anyone experience these issue?

No problem here. Tapping a text message takes me right to the threaded conversation where I can type a reply.

If you are restoring SMS messages, I recommend using Advanced Config to disable Threading, soft reset, restore messages, enable Threading, and soft reset one more time. This will ensure that all your messages are threaded properly on restore.

[rshiggs]

First of all, thanks for your hardwork! I like how snappy your roms are.

Now, first problem in 4.7, when I tap on a text on the message tab, it doesn't take me to reply right away, I have to click reply after the text is launch, this didn't happen on the previous released.

Also, I am not able to send any text. I send the text, but people can't receive them.

Anyone experience these issue?

I am having the same issue as well. I had that problem with v4.6 and now with v4.7 Everything else seems to be working fine except for text messaging. I tried sending texts to a few friends during happy hour last night who were sitting with me and they didn't receive a thing. I asked them to send me messages, and I didn't get a single one. However, the data worked fine, I could pull up the Internet, and the GPS worked fine with Google Maps. I really like the new Rhodium notifications and all, but I can't live without the text messaging. For now I am going back to v4.5 until I can figure out what is going on. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.

[mikepa1]

Great ROM -

Thank you

[bakadude]

I also had this problem at first. It also did not thread the text messages for me. But after reflashing (and hard reset after flash) it seems to be working now.

Your solution works for me. Thanks!

[HTCscout]

Bought the Touch Fuze and 15min out of the box I thought I'd have to return it. It sucked. Bad. I flashed 4.6, was great. Flashed 4.7, was greater. Thanks for your hard work, I'm very impressed. Can't wait for 5.0.

Thanks again

[NotATreoFan]

Bought the Touch Fuze and 15min out of the box I thought I'd have to return it. It sucked. Bad. I flashed 4.6, was great. Flashed 4.7, was greater. Thanks for your hard work, I'm very impressed. Can't wait for 5.0.

Thanks again

Thank you for the glowing review. I've got a 4 day weekend, so I'm hoping to have v5.0 ready by Tuesday night.

[D3TH METAL]

NATF, freaking amazing, fast, battery life is much better then 4.5
Thanks as always!

[atsitalian]

Hello NATF - I have been a fan of your ROM's for a long time and have donated to you in the past. I have tried a number of 6.5 Roms and had issues with them all and decided to go back to 6.1. I use the device for business so stability and speed are key for me (not "bleeding edge" functionality)

I used your Fuze 4.7 standard kitchen and deleted TF3D (I use SPB mobile shell 3) and a couple of other things I did not want/need and man oh man am I a happy camper. Been running the ROM all day and it is top notch. Thanks again!!! When v2 or v3 of your 5.0 comes out I will give that a try but believe I will be here with 4.7 for a while.:)

PS - I hope things with buying the house are progressing nicely.

[Jdilla]

WOW! Pulling up the windows directory was wicked fast. Whatever was done this time was superb. I have a feeling this version is by far the best. Excellent work!!!! :D

[halfelite]

Can apps on sd card. Have a shortcut under the application tab? I cant find anywhere to select apps from the SD card.

[TJ311]

Running smooth and fast for me. Thank you for another great ROM.

[kenny hektik]

Thank you for the glowing review. I've got a 4 day weekend, so I'm hoping to have v5.0 ready by Tuesday night.

Damnit, I just got 4.7 set up nicely. Now you are telling me I have to start over again around Tuesday.

I bought a fuze around 4.5, installed it and loved it. 4.6 was ok, but 4.7 - Good stuff, thanks for all of the great work. I shall make a donation at some point in the next 24 hours. Just wanted to take time to thank you for the ROM goodness.

[joshdv]

I searched and couldn't find anything that actually fixed the problem...

I installed 4.7 Lite
Then I installed the audio manager and the TF3D cabs that came in your mega pack.

Now, when I try to go to audio on the TF3D slider I get this error:

"The file 'AudioManager_eng' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted...blah blah blah"

Thanks,

Josh

PS. I love the ROM so far, it's ridiculously fast! The windows folder used to take over 2 minutes to load on the AT&T stock ROM. Now it loads in 4 seconds flat. WOW.

[GldRush98]

Adding Slick IM was a mistake.
They're software is ALL programmed with a time bomb. In a few months, that version will be completely useless.

[louplou]

I am also having issues with sms. I get notifications that I have new text messages, but there aren't any in the folder.

[joshdv]

I installed 4.7 Lite and the standard battery icon shows 4 bars all the time, even when my phone was at 50% battery remaining. I installed your battery icon pack and that works perfectly fine, but the standard icons don't work correctly.

[joshdv]

Can apps on sd card. Have a shortcut under the application tab? I cant find anywhere to select apps from the SD card.

1. Open File Explorer and find the program you want
2. Click Copy on the options menu
3. Browse to the Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder
4. On the options menu click "Paste Shortcut"

[TurboX2]

I installed 4.7 Lite and the standard battery icon shows 4 bars all the time, even when my phone was at 50% battery remaining. I installed your battery icon pack and that works perfectly fine, but the standard icons don't work correctly.

Ive had that issue for a while. with 4.5 and 4.3 the only way to see it is by going into the notifications menu/system status menu...

Other than that the only other glitch i see is the misinterpretation of full screen. I see the top task/title bar sometimes on fullscreen modes with powerpoint mobile (which i use a lot) and youtube. and once it even happened with the camera. strange right?

Over all this rom has been working great. No major bugs thus far.

On a sadder note, my phones screen seems to be dying, i am starting to see vertical lines along the bottom, and it has trouble changing updating the pixel colors.. it may be time for me to call the magic number to get a replacement :0

[joshdv]

Ive had that issue for a while. with 4.5 and 4.3 the only way to see it is by going into the notifications menu/system status menu...

Other than that the only other glitch i see is the misinterpretation of full screen. I see the top task/title bar sometimes on fullscreen modes with powerpoint mobile (which i use a lot) and youtube. and once it even happened with the camera. strange right?

Over all this rom has been working great. No major bugs thus far.

On a sadder note, my phones screen seems to be dying, i am starting to see vertical lines along the bottom, and it has trouble changing updating the pixel colors.. it may be time for me to call the magic number to get a replacement :0


I just got the phone last week, I'm still deciding if I want to pay for the insurance on the phone. It might be worth it, but I dunno...

[NotATreoFan]

Adding Slick IM was a mistake.
They're software is ALL programmed with a time bomb. In a few months, that version will be completely useless.

That's why it is installed from CAB. It can easily be removed. :)

I installed 4.7 Lite and the standard battery icon shows 4 bars all the time, even when my phone was at 50% battery remaining. I installed your battery icon pack and that works perfectly fine, but the standard icons don't work correctly.

If you want to use the standard battery icon, try changing the following registry key:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\security\ResOver\Bitmaps] "BatteryIconLevels"= dword:15 (hexadecimal) or 21 (decimal)

[joshdv]

If you want to use the standard battery icon, try changing the following registry key:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\security\ResOver\Bitmaps] "BatteryIconLevels"= dword:15 (hexadecimal) or 21 (decimal)

Considering it's the "lite" version, it should be defaulted to work in the ROM's registry, and your installer pack for the non-standard icons should change the entry as needed.

Did you see my other post about the problem with the Lite ROM and the Audio Manager?

[GldRush98]

That's why it is installed from CAB. It can easily be removed. :)
I knew there was a reason why I love your ROM's
Wise decision :)

[yarhokie]

Has anyone else had a problem adding a city via HTC Weather Master 1.3 in the v4.7 build. When I click on the add button nothing appears to happen. I believe this worked fine in the 4.6 build but I will have to reflash back to that check it out.

yarhokie

[turtle2472]

I just flashed last night and I'm very pleased and impressed. Thank you for the time and effort you've put into this ROM. The first thing that stands out as an improvement over 4.6 is the ability to choose how long to snooze and alarm.

[ap4lifetn]

any chance you'll add TF3D2 to one of your ROM versions?

[mr_nutter]

Please Delete

[bcw666]

I have a Fuze and am using it outside the us.

When I install the NATF 4.7 Fuze I can get the right config for the phone but internet will not work for opera and explorer.

It will work for weather update and downloading QuickGPS update file.

But if I install the NATF 4.7 Pro I can get internet on every application.
But then I dont get the PTT key and the correct keyboard layout.

The same happens with ver 4.6 and 4.5.

Can anyone help me on this_

Thanks

[turtle2472]

I have a Fuze and am using it outside the us.

When I install the NATF 4.7 Fuze I can get the right config for the phone but internet will not work for opera and explorer.

It will work for weather update and downloading QuickGPS update file.

But if I install the NATF 4.7 Pro I can get internet on every application.
But then I dont get the PTT key and the correct keyboard layout.

The same happens with ver 4.6 and 4.5.

Can anyone help me on this_

Thanks

The issues you are facing are connected to the proxy settings. Sadly, I wasn't able to get Opera to cooperate with AT&T's ISP APN rather than the default MediaNet. Bottom line, I don't have an answer but I know the issue.

[NotATreoFan]

Considering it's the "lite" version, it should be defaulted to work in the ROM's registry, and your installer pack for the non-standard icons should change the entry as needed.

Did you see my other post about the problem with the Lite ROM and the Audio Manager?

The default setting in the Lite ROM should be correct. I only suggested the registry key as a possible fix. There are many different programs people may install that might change that registry key.

As for HTC AudioManager, I think my CAB file may be messed up. I'm going to take them down until I can test them all.

Has anyone else had a problem adding a city via HTC Weather Master 1.3 in the v4.7 build. When I click on the add button nothing appears to happen. I believe this worked fine in the 4.6 build but I will have to reflash back to that check it out.

yarhokie

Just tested it here with Largo, FL, 33773. You have to tap "Set" after you enter the city information, then scroll to it in the list, and tap "Add".

I have a Fuze and am using it outside the us.

When I install the NATF 4.7 Fuze I can get the right config for the phone but internet will not work for opera and explorer.

It will work for weather update and downloading QuickGPS update file.

But if I install the NATF 4.7 Pro I can get internet on every application.
But then I dont get the PTT key and the correct keyboard layout.

The same happens with ver 4.6 and 4.5.

Can anyone help me on this_

Thanks

If you have a tethering plan which allows connections over ISP.Cingular, you will have to delete the proxy configuration for Opera, since only MEdia Net requires it.

If you are using MEdia Net, then I can only think you may have a bad flash. If this is the case, flash a standard AT&T ROM, let it fully customize, and then flash my ROM again.

[Jdilla]

I just got the phone last week, I'm still deciding if I want to pay for the insurance on the phone. It might be worth it, but I dunno...

Do It!!! Insurance totally is worth it for 5 a month. Saying this as an ex employee, the warrenty process is a huge drag and being lost or stolen does not fit into ATT's warrenty criteria. I wish I had it now because the earpeice on my phone doesnt work anymore. Speakerphone for me from now on :(

[NotATreoFan]

Do It!!! Insurance totally is worth it for 5 a month. Saying this as an ex employee, the warrenty process is a huge drag and being lost or stolen does not fit into ATT's warrenty criteria. I wish I had it now because the earpeice on my phone doesnt work anymore. Speakerphone for me from now on :(

I'll be posting a picture of my cousin's VZW phone within a few days.

|| Lawnmower - 1 || Cell Phone - 0 ||

A mere $50 deductible saw its replacement. :)

[yarhokie]

Just tested it here with Largo, FL, 33773. You have to tap "Set" after you enter the city information, then scroll to it in the list, and tap "Add".


Sigh, it must have been a bad flash because this example didn't work so I reflashed and followed your example to make sure it worked and then went and added in others that I wanted.

Thanks

[joshdv]

Do It!!! Insurance totally is worth it for 5 a month. Saying this as an ex employee, the warrenty process is a huge drag and being lost or stolen does not fit into ATT's warrenty criteria. I wish I had it now because the earpeice on my phone doesnt work anymore. Speakerphone for me from now on :(

They cover theft and loss too? Where's the small print that screws me over? ;)

[joshdv]

The default setting in the Lite ROM should be correct. I only suggested the registry key as a possible fix. There are many different programs people may install that might change that registry key.

As for HTC AudioManager, I think my CAB file may be messed up. I'm going to take them down until I can test them all.



I did a clean install with NOTHING other than your Lite ROM and the cabs for audio manager and tf3d from your pack, so it seems that the registry is wrong.

As for HTC AudioManager, I tried three different CABs, yours, and two others and none of them worked. If a cab is broken, it's probably the tf3d cab.

[Jdilla]

They cover theft and loss too? Where's the small print that screws me over? ;)


Well I can see the concern but they dont redo any contracts or BS like that. Like NATF said, for a cheapo phone, its 50 bucks. For our nice Fuzes its gonna be 125. But if its for business at least they will overnight it to you for free. Insurance is way better than warranty. LOL just look back some pages and you will see NATFs last predicament where his TP tried to fly :rolleyes:

[joshdv]

Well I can see the concern but they dont redo any contracts or BS like that. Like NATF said, for a cheapo phone, its 50 bucks. For our nice Fuzes its gonna be 125. But if its for business at least they will overnight it to you for free. Insurance is way better than warranty. LOL just look back some pages and you will see NATFs last predicament where his TP tried to fly :rolleyes:

So wait a sec... If I sign up for the insurance, and pay $5 a month, I need to pay $125 if my phone gets replaced?

[D3TH METAL]

So wait a sec... If I sign up for the insurance, and pay $5 a month, I need to pay $125 if my phone gets replaced?

it's better than paying full price

[metal450]

So wait a sec... If I sign up for the insurance, and pay $5 a month, I need to pay $125 if my phone gets replaced?

Welcome to American insurance. It's just like how we get to pay hundreds of dollars a month for health "insurance", and when we get sick, still have to fork over a shameful amount just to step through the doctor's office door.

[reedster5555]

Great job on the 4.7 ROM, and thanks as always!

Not sure if it is me, but I have not been able to get the phone to lock by holding down the end key.

I have it set to Automatically Execute the selected action: then Lock Device is selected.

Under buttons I have the long end key set to <none>

But when I hold the end key down it doesn't lock. Any thoughts?

It worked fine in 4.5 (skipped 4.6).

Thanks!


No one else has ran into this? Beginning to think there is something goofy with my phone.

Also I do not have a slider on the Answer or Ignore screen. I see the Answer and the Ignore, but the slider just isn't there. I can slide my finger toward one or the other and it works, but there isn't anything there viusally.

Any thoughs on either of these would be appreciated.

[ramius256]

No one else has ran into this? Beginning to think there is something goofy with my phone.

Also I do not have a slider on the Answer or Ignore screen. I see the Answer and the Ignore, but the slider just isn't there. I can slide my finger toward one or the other and it works, but there isn't anything there viusally.

Any thoughs on either of these would be appreciated.

I ran into the same situation for the end key problem. I found that under buttons "End (Hold)" should be set to "EndKey" If I did that the "Long Press End Key" setting would do what I wanted.

[joshdv]

Welcome to American insurance. It's just like how we get to pay hundreds of dollars a month for health "insurance", and when we get sick, still have to fork over a shameful amount just to step through the doctor's office door.

I'm going to confirm that with them, and if it's true, I will say no to the insurance. My Fuze was free. If I pay $5 a month for a year, that's $60, plus the 125 is $185. At that point I might as well just buy a new phone.

[reedster5555]

Great job on the 4.7 ROM, and thanks as always!

Not sure if it is me, but I have not been able to get the phone to lock by holding down the end key.

I have it set to Automatically Execute the selected action: then Lock Device is selected.

Under buttons I have the long end key set to <none>

But when I hold the end key down it doesn't lock. Any thoughts?

It worked fine in 4.5 (skipped 4.6).

Thanks!

I ran into the same situation for the end key problem. I found that under buttons "End (Hold)" should be set to "EndKey" If I did that the "Long Press End Key" setting would do what I wanted.

That worked. There might actually be some logic to that, I just didn't think about it.

Thanks!

[prisoner881]

I just flashed from 4.4S to 4.7S yesterday and the results have been fantastic. This is without a doubt the best ROM NATF has yet produced. It's fast, it seems to have no bugs that I can find, and it comes with all the widgets I want and none of the ones I don't.

The only downside I can think of is that 4.7 is going to be so good that it's going to take the 5.0 ROM's a while to get to this level of stability and usability. I was looking forward to the 5.0, but now I'm not so sure...:)

[jamespaulritter]

NATF love the ROM. Thanks for your excellent work. I love how GPS works so perfectly with your ROMs.

I hate slide to answer. I installed the diamond phone canvas to remove or replace the slide to answer that was baked into the ROM i guess. It worked and slide to answer is gone now. Was that a good solution or was there a better way?

[nkrick]

Can someone confirm what version of rilphone.dll is baked into NATF 4.7? I have the AT&T 1.12.25.19 radio and radio reception seems to be worse than when I used 4.5. When I first installed the 1.12.25.19 radio, my reception went up by 1 to 2 bars on average, now I am back where I was before. I am not sure if I have a rilphone.dll mismatch, or if the 3G "upgrade" that AT&T just performed in my area made my reception worse... I did perform a hard reset after flashing.

[darwinmach]

Can someone confirm what version of rilphone.dll is baked into NATF 4.7? I have the AT&T 1.12.25.19 radio and radio reception seems to be worse than when I used 4.5. When I first installed the 1.12.25.19 radio, my reception went up by 1 to 2 bars on average, now I am back where I was before. I am not sure if I have a rilphone.dll mismatch, or if the 3G "upgrade" that AT&T just performed in my area made my reception worse... I did perform a hard reset after flashing.

You can get the cab install of the rilphone.dll corresponding to your radio here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494632

If you want to check without installing: extract the dll from the rom (copy to sd card), extract from the suspected cab, do an MD5 or sha1 hash to see if they're the same.

There's probably a better way to do this, but for now this is my suggestion.

[khanfuze]

Did not realize I accidentally capped the V. I'll re-upload everything later with the normal password.


p.s. typing from my Wii inbetween rounds of Punch-Out!!...


Ding! ding! ding!

http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/9568/kingnatf.gif

[pachis]

After flashing 4.7S from 4.6 I find that when in an email account inbox onscreen in landscape view, the menu softkey only pulls up 'new', 'reply,' and 'Mark as Read.' When in portrait view, the menu softkey pulls up 'New,' 'Reply,' 'Mark as Read,' 'Move,' 'Go to,' 'Tools,' 'Select messages,' 'Send/Receive,' and 'MMS Options.'
I'm not sure if this is a bug or not.

[pachis]

I've got ten or more software programs and four email accounts that all require reloading, entering passwords and setup after a reflash [e.g., the recent move from 4.6S to 4.7S]. This takes me [admittedly hamhanded] more than four hours. I have SPRITE BACKUP and use it regularly for backups, but I've read in the thread that the registry shouldn't be restored from an earlier flash. I install all my programs on my storage card. Is there a way to backup prior to a reflash and then subsequently restore after flashing to prevent the necessity for re-installing and setting up everything anew?
I've attempted to search for the answer to this and apologize if its been answered previously.

[StevePritchard]

After flashing 4.7S from 4.6 I find that when in an email account inbox onscreen in landscape view, the menu softkey only pulls up 'new', 'reply,' and 'Mark as Read.' When in portrait view, the menu softkey pulls up 'New,' 'Reply,' 'Mark as Read,' 'Move,' 'Go to,' 'Tools,' 'Select messages,' 'Send/Receive,' and 'MMS Options.'
I'm not sure if this is a bug or not.
Are you saying that there's no scroll button with a "V" on it, or you can't tap and scroll the menu? I haven't seen that problem, it works fine for me.

Cheers,

Steve.

[pachis]

Are you saying that there's no scroll button with a "V" on it, or you can't tap and scroll the menu? I haven't seen that problem, it works fine for me.

Cheers,

Steve.

Exactly. There is NO scroll button ["V"] after pulling up menu while in landscape. This is the same for me in all four of my email accounts.
Now I wonder why it doesn't show for me and it does for you.

[yatrg]

I've got ten or more software programs and four email accounts that all require reloading, entering passwords and setup after a reflash [e.g., the recent move from 4.6S to 4.7S]. This takes me [admittedly hamhanded] more than four hours. I have SPRITE BACKUP and use it regularly for backups, but I've read in the thread that the registry shouldn't be restored from an earlier flash. I install all my programs on my storage card. Is there a way to backup prior to a reflash and then subsequently restore after flashing to prevent the necessity for re-installing and setting up everything anew?
I've attempted to search for the answer to this and apologize if its been answered previously.

Your answer is UC. garyfunk has this link in his profile which I have found very helpful:
http://rk7.com/uc.zip
He has tools and instructions in that zip file.
Alternatively, search the forum for SetupInstallExpress.

[dpatro]

Hello NATF:

Last night I flashed to 4.7 from 4.6. Great build, works fast. Thank you much for providing such a great ROMs. My $10 donation is on its way (done).

I have been waiting for a fix for annoying word complication issues with T9 or ABC since v4.5. All I was trying to get the word completion to work as usual like WM6 style suggestions in drop-down type on email’s message body area. Finally I was able to make it to work for both soft and slider keyboard by using following solution.

I was wondering if this fix or a better fix can be implemented in your next release?


Ref: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-425405.html
“IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
suggest words in a drop down list as in WM6”

Thanks,
DKP

[NotATreoFan]

Hello NATF:

Last night I flashed to 4.7 from 4.6. Great build, works fast. Thank you much for providing such a great ROMs. My $10 donation is on its way (done).

I have been waiting for a fix for annoying word complication issues with T9 or ABC since v4.5. All I was trying to get the word completion to work as usual like WM6 style suggestions in drop-down type on email’s message body area. Finally I was able to make it to work for both soft and slider keyboard by using following solution.

I was wondering if this fix or a better fix can be implemented in your next release?


Ref: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-425405.html
“IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
suggest words in a drop down list as in WM6”

Thanks,
DKP

The problem with this "fix" is that it breaks the onscreen HTC Full QWERTY keyboard... it get's stuck in Numeric mode.

[bcw666]

> I have a Fuze and am using it outside the us.
>
> When I install the NATF 4.7 Fuze I can get the right config for the phone but internet will not work for opera and explorer.
>
> It will work for weather update and downloading QuickGPS update file.
>
> But if I install the NATF 4.7 Pro I can get internet on every application.
> But then I dont get the PTT key and the correct keyboard layout.
>
> The same happens with ver 4.6 and 4.5.
>
> Can anyone help me on this_
>
> Thanks

>> NotATreoFan's answer:
>> If you have a tethering plan which allows connections over ISP.Cingular, you will have to delete the proxy configuration for Opera, since only
>> MEdia Net requires it.
>>
>> If you are using MEdia Net, then I can only think you may have a bad flash. If this is the case, flash a standard AT&T ROM, let it fully customize,
>> and then flash my ROM again.

I'm using the phone in Argentina. With the v4.7 Pro ROM I just configure the internet access in connections and it works all right.

When I use the v4.7 Fuze ROM I do the same thing. Internet works except for explorer and opera.
When I open opera it opens the 3G connection and starts to download.
Just as the page starts to download it stops sending and receiving and the hangs there.

I've tried cleaning the Default connections from the registry but couldn't solve it.

In your post you mention deleting the proxy configuration for opera. How is that done? I dont find that option in the browser.

Any ideas?

Thanks for the help.

[ProjektFuze]

has anyone flashed the new official rom update? and used it with natf??? anny input?? i just want to test the new radio, heard great things about it...

[NotATreoFan]

> I have a Fuze and am using it outside the us.
>
> When I install the NATF 4.7 Fuze I can get the right config for the phone but internet will not work for opera and explorer.
>
> It will work for weather update and downloading QuickGPS update file.
>
> But if I install the NATF 4.7 Pro I can get internet on every application.
> But then I dont get the PTT key and the correct keyboard layout.
>
> The same happens with ver 4.6 and 4.5.
>
> Can anyone help me on this_
>
> Thanks

>> NotATreoFan's answer:
>> If you have a tethering plan which allows connections over ISP.Cingular, you will have to delete the proxy configuration for Opera, since only
>> MEdia Net requires it.
>>
>> If you are using MEdia Net, then I can only think you may have a bad flash. If this is the case, flash a standard AT&T ROM, let it fully customize,
>> and then flash my ROM again.

I'm using the phone in Argentina. With the v4.7 Pro ROM I just configure the internet access in connections and it works all right.

When I use the v4.7 Fuze ROM I do the same thing. Internet works except for explorer and opera.
When I open opera it opens the 3G connection and starts to download.
Just as the page starts to download it stops sending and receiving and the hangs there.

I've tried cleaning the Default connections from the registry but couldn't solve it.

In your post you mention deleting the proxy configuration for opera. How is that done? I dont find that option in the browser.

Any ideas?

Thanks for the help.

Your problem is caused by the AT&T Hidden Proxy. It is built-in to the AT&T ROMs because it is required for MEdia Net to work. Since you are not on the AT&T network, I would suggest flashing the Touch Pro ROM, and then downloading the Fuze keyboard fix CAB found on the forum.

[StevePritchard]

Your problem is caused by the AT&T Hidden Proxy. It is built-in to the AT&T ROMs because it is required for MEdia Net to work. Since you are not on the AT&T network, I would suggest flashing the Touch Pro ROM, and then downloading the Fuze keyboard fix CAB found on the forum.
Hey Todd, speaking of AT&T ROMS, I was wondering whether you were considering a v4.8 release based on the new Fuze ROM? I got the impression that your efforts were moving towards v5.0 with WinMo v6.5 next, but everybody seems to be cock-a-hoop about the new Fuze ROM, so I'm wondering whether it could benefit from a bit of NATF magic?

Nice job on v4.7 BTW.

Cheers,

Steve.

[Hiren88]

The weather tab just restarts touchflo, doesnt actually work. can you confirm bug.

[Hiren88]

Weather tab not workin, just restarts touchflo, can you confirm bug.

[ramius256]

Weather tab not workin, just restarts touchflo, can you confirm bug.

This happened to me. After a reflash it worked fine.

[TVDinner]

I have a question for all.

Currently I have NAFT V4.5S ATT WWE installed.
I am using the new Mobile Shell with it.
Everything works amazingly fast and I really have no problems at all with the phone.

So here is my question. Why should I upgrade to this new version of the ROM?

Will the phone operate faster, or will I notice any difference at all?

Thanks.

[DrunkenOstrich]

I have a question for all.

Currently I have NAFT V4.5S ATT WWE installed.
I am using the new Mobile Shell with it.
Everything works amazingly fast and I really have no problems at all with the phone.

So here is my question. Why should I upgrade to this new version of the ROM?

Will the phone operate faster, or will I notice any difference at all?

Thanks.

+1

I'm about to flash , have heard 4.5 is great and I want to use the 1.12.25.19 radio, heard it's awesome on 4.5 and have seen a comment or two that that radio seems weaker on 4.7.

Can anyone compare 4.5 vs 4.7 for TVDinner and DrunkenOstrich? :cool:

[l3it3r]

If I get some spare time tonight, I'll see if I can't do a couple simple comparisons, but since I've gone from 4.5 to 4.6 and now 4.7, the phone seems more stable, I do a soft reset at the max of once or twice a week - IF THAT. I think that the battery life is better and of course - the GPS fix in a matter of seconds is huge.

I don't think there's any EARTH SHATTERING differences, but I do know from flashing my phone on a regular basis that it's nice to get a clean slate from time to time and just install only the software you REALLY use and get everything trimmed down a bit.

is 4.7 better than 4.6? Yes.

is it better than 4.5 (which was also very stable)? Hard to say, but I've been using it since NATF released it and haven't found a single issue.

[StevePritchard]

I have to say that I think v4.7 is great. I skipped v4.6, and stuck with v4.5, but there seem to be a few refining touches in v4.7, while retaining the speed and reliability of v4.5.

I do have a question though. Has anybody found a purpose to the Bluetooth page in the Comms Manager? It lists the previously paired devices, but although it seems to do "something" when you click an item, as far as I can tell it doesn't. If I want to connect an A2DP device, then I have to resort to clicking "Advanced" to get the standard WinMo Bluetooth page, click and hold on the device in question, and then use the popup menu to connect it.

Am I missing something?

Cheers,

Steve.

[NotATreoFan]

Hey Todd, speaking of AT&T ROMS, I was wondering whether you were considering a v4.8 release based on the new Fuze ROM? I got the impression that your efforts were moving towards v5.0 with WinMo v6.5 next, but everybody seems to be cock-a-hoop about the new Fuze ROM, so I'm wondering whether it could benefit from a bit of NATF magic?

Nice job on v4.7 BTW.

Cheers,

Steve.

I will be taking a look at the new AT&T ROM over the weekend. Since I'm using the ROM and SYS folders from the leaked 5.08 ROM on all flavors of 4.7, there could be a benefit to all by using the newer stuff.

I have a question for all.

Currently I have NAFT V4.5S ATT WWE installed.
I am using the new Mobile Shell with it.
Everything works amazingly fast and I really have no problems at all with the phone.

So here is my question. Why should I upgrade to this new version of the ROM?

Will the phone operate faster, or will I notice any difference at all?

Thanks.

The easiest way to answer this is to read the changelog on the first page. If you check the changes made between 4.5 -> 4.6, and then read what I changed from 4.6 -> 4.7, you will get a good idea of whether or not you may benefit from the newer version.

In short, 4.7 reverted a lot of the changes in 4.6, such as the OS build, because they tended to cause lag and application compatibility/stability issues.

I have to say that I think v4.7 is great. I skipped v4.6, and stuck with v4.5, but there seem to be a few refining touches in v4.7, while retaining the speed and reliability of v4.5.

I do have a question though. Has anybody found a purpose to the Bluetooth page in the Comms Manager? It lists the previously paired devices, but although it seems to do "something" when you click an item, as far as I can tell it doesn't. If I want to connect an A2DP device, then I have to resort to clicking "Advanced" to get the standard WinMo Bluetooth page, click and hold on the device in question, and then use the popup menu to connect it.

Am I missing something?

Cheers,

Steve.

The new Bluetooth menu is designed this way on purpose. In order to make the handsfree pairing process simpler, HTC set the new Comm Manager up so that a device search (using the defaults) will not turn up every phone/stereo within 40 feet when someone is trying to connect their headset.

As a shortcut, just tap Settings at the bottom of the Comm Manager screen, and then choose Bluetooth... it will jump straight to the "Advanced" menu.

[mrcpu]

I would really like to see a NATF ROm on the new HTC release. I just flashed the new HTC RMO for testing after having used 4.5 for a long time (and then a stint over on NRG), but there is no doubt in my mind that the new AT&T ROM is much faster than the original stock AT&T ROM, and perhaps with the better drivers and such, would make an awesome base for a NATF ROM...

[bmc123]

Does anyone know how to get the built in Windows Mobile word completion working on the 4.7 rom?

[dpatro]

Check post#4206 on page 421.

[TurboX2]

Weather tab not workin, just restarts touchflo, can you confirm bug.

Its weathermaster that is making touchflo crash... remove all the cities that you have manually added in the database, use the weather tab to add one, then u can use weathermaster again to add and remove cities.


But im about to reflash.. i think i had a bad flash.. i wanted to make sure that nobody else is having fullscreen problems when switching from landscape to portrait.. like with opera, camera, youtube, tt7 ,and powerpoint.. (the apps that run in full screen)?????
??

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[StevePritchard]

The new Bluetooth menu is designed this way on purpose. In order to make the handsfree pairing process simpler, HTC set the new Comm Manager up so that a device search (using the defaults) will not turn up every phone/stereo within 40 feet when someone is trying to connect their headset.

As a shortcut, just tap Settings at the bottom of the Comm Manager screen, and then choose Bluetooth... it will jump straight to the "Advanced" menu.
Thanks - I guess the question is necessarily directed at you. I just noticed that the Bluetooth page of the comms manager has "Add new Bluetooth headset", which didn't work for me, and has a list of "Previously Paired Headsets", which includes a set of A2DP speakers, but clicking them on that page doesn't cause them to connect - that was my point really. Perhaps it's limited to headset profiles, but they seem to connect automatically anyway.

Cheers,

Steve.

[HTCscout]

I don't think this is ROM specific, but my wifi settings are showing tx 54mbps and rx 1mbps. Is this normal?

[irus]

im using ftouchsl and was just wondering if anyone know how to exclude the Rhodium Menu Enhancement so i can scroll up and down in the menu. thanks

[khanfuze]

Does anyone know how to get the built in Windows Mobile word completion working on the 4.7 rom?

The spell correction and word completion are off by default. just check the boxes in T9 settings.

[mattbratt]

NATF,

Hello from Florida, and GREAT ROM!

One minor nit about my flashing to your 4.7 ROM...

I can not seem to get all of the ring tones to work on 4.7.

When I installed this ROM, I hard reset it when getting to the stylus calibration screen. When trying to setup the ring tones, I can select from the following:

Ring-Standard
Ring-Vision
Ring-WindowsMobile
AT&T Mobile

All of them, except the AT&T mobile ring tone will give me the error message of:

"The ring tone file is corrupted or unavailable. Please choose a different ring tone."

Not sure what is up, I did a search on this thread and saw a reference to this registry entry, and renamed it to some random name, and now the drop down in the ring tone selection only shows the ring tone that works (AT&T Mobile) and my own custom ring tone that I put in the \Windows\Rings directory. So far, I am happy with this fix, as things work fine.

Here is the registry entry:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds]
"Ringtones", renamed to "Wingtones" (-;

Any idea what was up w/ this? If those three files were the only ones that got fried when I burned in the new ROM, I am cool w/ that. Just makes me a bit paranoid. Want to try to avoid reflashing cause I just spent 2 hours customizing it.

Thanks for any ideas.

[JakeRam]

I'm an idiot, wrong forum, sorry. For what it's worth - Go Phils!

[NotATreoFan]

NATF,

Hello from Florida, and GREAT ROM!

One minor nit about my flashing to your 4.7 ROM...

I can not seem to get all of the ring tones to work on 4.7.

When I installed this ROM, I hard reset it when getting to the stylus calibration screen. When trying to setup the ring tones, I can select from the following:

Ring-Standard
Ring-Vision
Ring-WindowsMobile
AT&T Mobile

All of them, except the AT&T mobile ring tone will give me the error message of:

"The ring tone file is corrupted or unavailable. Please choose a different ring tone."

Not sure what is up, I did a search on this thread and saw a reference to this registry entry, and renamed it to some random name, and now the drop down in the ring tone selection only shows the ring tone that works (AT&T Mobile) and my own custom ring tone that I put in the \Windows\Rings directory. So far, I am happy with this fix, as things work fine.

Here is the registry entry:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds]
"Ringtones", renamed to "Wingtones" (-;

Any idea what was up w/ this? If those three files were the only ones that got fried when I burned in the new ROM, I am cool w/ that. Just makes me a bit paranoid. Want to try to avoid reflashing cause I just spent 2 hours customizing it.

Thanks for any ideas.

This is a glitch that I introduced in 4.5, and managed to do once again in 4.7... I removed those default ringtones from the ROM, but did not delete the registry entries that define them.

I will be sure to correct this in the 4.8 "roll-up" ROM.

[TurboX2]

dont forget...

Opera 9.7 is out.. so far its working amazingly..

[mattbratt]

This is a glitch that I introduced in 4.5, and managed to do once again in 4.7... I removed those default ringtones from the ROM, but did not delete the registry entries that define them.

I will be sure to correct this in the 4.8 "roll-up" ROM.

Thanks for the heads-up. I am sure this will help others. Again, great ROM, been using since the 'early' 4.x days.

I went to some other 6.5 rom, and ran it for two weeks. Some nice features in 6.5, but I missed your integration features,. Once you published your latest ROM, I switched back, even though it is still 6.1. Glad I did switch.

[irus]

im using ftouchsl and was just wondering if anyone know how to exclude the Rhodium Menu Enhancement so i can scroll up and down in the menu. thanks

nobody knows the answer to this question :(

[RuneSpells]

Not sure if this has been asked yet or not.. tried doing a Google search of the forum with no real luck.

I just installed Opera 9.7 and find it much better then 9.5 so i uninstalled 9.5 from my Fuze.

My question is.. how do i alter TouchFlo so it will launch 9.7 instead of trying to launch the 9.5 which is uninstalled so as of right now the internet tab on TouchFlo doesn't do/launch anything.

Thanks in advance.. and great ROM so far. :)

[halfelite]

Not sure if this has been asked yet or not.. tried doing a Google search of the forum with no real luck.

I just installed Opera 9.7 and find it much better then 9.5 so i uninstalled 9.5 from my Fuze.

My question is.. how do i alter TouchFlo so it will launch 9.7 instead of trying to launch the 9.5 which is uninstalled so as of right now the internet tab on TouchFlo doesn't do/launch anything.

Thanks in advance.. and great ROM so far. :)

Somthing like this should work as long as you know the old opera file name

In the Opera 9.7 folder in the Program Files directory is a file named Opera9-ml.exe. Copy this file to your Windows directory. In Windows, you should find the old Opera9.exe file. To be safe, rename the file to, say, Opera9-old.exe. Then rename Opera9-ml.exe to Opera9.exe to replace the old file. You can keep the OperaL.exe file the same. Reset and, presto, the browser tab in TF3D2 works…at least it did for me.

[robovind]

Hi!
I am a newbie - Can I install this ROM in my HTC Hermes 8525?
Kindly reply

[fone_fanatic]

Hi!
I am a newbie - Can I install this ROM in my HTC Hermes 8525?
Kindly reply

NO, this is for HTC Raphael only. Go to the hermes forum.


Just got my raphael yesterday, have to turn in the tilt (warranty exchange) and i dont know if i'm gonna miss it but from reading reading this thread doesn't look like i will! Just flashed that rom and its going through its customizations now.
Thanks for all your effort NATF!

also, small request, but could u please add this S2U to your next rom :D
http://ipanties.weebly.com/uploads/2/3/6/6/2366723/4655009_orig.jpg

[ttres]

I've loved 4.7, but I've had a problem after a Soft Reset: TF3D gets stuck and is unable to launch. The result is that it keeps trying to launch, and will prompt "Tap here to launch TouchFLO 3D" (but tapping does not continue the launch). The phone just hangs at this point, the radio doesn't connect, and no other applications launch either.

Another soft reset doesn't help, and I'm forced to do a hard reset. I've reflashed 4.7 twice, but it hasn't helped. This hasn't happened with each Soft Reset, but was happening if I turned my phone off, and turned it back on (e.g. getting off the plane). I've had to hard reset about 5 times (plus the reflashing) since I first started using it unfortunately.

Any suggestions?

[NotATreoFan]

I've loved 4.7, but I've had a problem after a Soft Reset: TF3D gets stuck and is unable to launch. The result is that it keeps trying to launch, and will prompt "Tap here to launch TouchFLO 3D" (but tapping does not continue the launch). The phone just hangs at this point, the radio doesn't connect, and no other applications launch either.

Another soft reset doesn't help, and I'm forced to do a hard reset. I've reflashed 4.7 twice, but it hasn't helped. This hasn't happened with each Soft Reset, but was happening if I turned my phone off, and turned it back on (e.g. getting off the plane). I've had to hard reset about 5 times (plus the reflashing) since I first started using it unfortunately.

Any suggestions?

Flash back to a stock ROM, and then flash mine again.

[ttres]

Flash back to a stock ROM, and then flash mine again.

Excellent. I'll try that. Thanks, NATF. Much appreciated.

[RuneSpells]

Not sure if this has been asked yet or not.. tried doing a Google search of the forum with no real luck.

I just installed Opera 9.7 and find it much better then 9.5 so i uninstalled 9.5 from my Fuze.

My question is.. how do i alter TouchFlo so it will launch 9.7 instead of trying to launch the 9.5 which is uninstalled so as of right now the internet tab on TouchFlo doesn't do/launch anything.

Thanks in advance.. and great ROM so far. :)

Just following up on my previous post.. i was able to find a way to get the Internet tab to launch Opera Mobile 9.7 off of my stoarge card by following the instructions in this post http://www.fuzemobility.com/how-to-change-the-tf3d-default-browser/

Hope this helps anyone else with the same issue.

[nickhaaa]

I have always gotten the data to work. I'm on T-mobile network and I use internet2.voicestream.com to access my data network.

I flashed to the 4.7 standard and I gotta say I love it. I have the Fuze version and I initially flashed the touchpro version and tried changing the keyboard layout to ATT/Cingular. It didn't work, but the data did work.

Due to the keyboard layout issue, I flashed the standard Fuze version to it and the data is automatically set up for AT&T MEdiaNet. Being a T-mobile user I switched the settings accordingly, but it keeps giving me a message saying "cannot connect" or something of the sort. Anyone have any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong?

[baeshin81]

messages are not showing up on manila...not sure how to fix...never had this problem with natf roms...

[fone_fanatic]

messages are not showing up on manila...not sure how to fix...never had this problem with natf roms...

My messaging is working perfectly fine. Showing up in manilla, also restored my sms back up (over 1000 txts) from my tilt and got them re-threaded perfectly and all is well.

There were some earlier posts with people having text message issues and it was recommended to reflash and hard reset after words.

[pachis]

Just following up on my previous post.. i was able to find a way to get the Internet tab to launch Opera Mobile 9.7 off of my stoarge card by following the instructions in this post http://www.fuzemobility.com/how-to-change-the-tf3d-default-browser/

Hope this helps anyone else with the same issue.

I tried this, but Total Commander wouldn't let me save the changed file.

[wdkingery]

so i went from 4.5 to 4.7 today, and i thought i'd reattempt to uninstall phonecanvas. I DO NOT WANT slide2answer. DO NOT. and no matter what i do that damn thing won't uninstall. yes i tried the turn off phone, reset, uninstall.. all kinds of options. i don't want 4.7L. i want 4.7S minus s2a. anyone got any ideas?

last time i did it, it half way uninstalled and it just had a messed up s2a

[fone_fanatic]

I tried this, but Total Commander wouldn't let me save the changed file.

open the files properties by Tapping and holding on the file in Total commander. Un-check read only and system and u'll be able to edit the file.

(btw this solution was mentioned in the comments of that article...)

[crayaa]

Well I noticed that TF3D decides to never load again (well, it just shows the black HTC background) after installing some cabs after flashing the rom.

I hard reset and installed each, one by one to see which one was causing the problem and discovered that this one was doing it:

http://www.studiokuma.com/wm/?section=support
ime-mingliu.cab (6191KB) <- that file

Anyone have any ideas as to how to get TF3D to start loading again while using that program?

[NotATreoFan]

so i went from 4.5 to 4.7 today, and i thought i'd reattempt to uninstall phonecanvas. I DO NOT WANT slide2answer. DO NOT. and no matter what i do that damn thing won't uninstall. yes i tried the turn off phone, reset, uninstall.. all kinds of options. i don't want 4.7L. i want 4.7S minus s2a. anyone got any ideas?

last time i did it, it half way uninstalled and it just had a messed up s2a

The easiest way to accomplish this is to download the 4.7 kitchen, and cook up a custom ROM. You only need to change 2 things...


Delete "NATF ATT PhoneCanvas.cab" from OEM -> OperatorPKG.
Edit "config_operator.txt" in OperatorPKG, and remove the line for PhoneCanvas.



If you want the PhoneCanvas dialer, minus the S2A, here you go (http://rapidshare.com/files/201433657/NATF_ATT_PhoneCanvas.cab).

[yarhokie]

NATF,

I just flashed the new .35 radio and I am concerned that when I go to reflash a rebuilt version of your 4.7 kitchen I will get the original rilphone.dll that shipped with the rom. I can't seem to find any place where there is a rilphone.dll located in the kitchen, using windows search which I realize is limited. Can you offer any guiadance on how to upgrade the kitchen so I can swap in the new rilphone.dll?

Thanks,

Eric