[ROM] [WWE] [GSM] [28-Oct-09] NATF's v4 Final WM6.1 TP ROMs

[Captain_Throwback]

Upon further research I found this link regarding outgoing mail problems:

Click this messy link (http://http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=d9d71b2e-d2dd-44f2-86e5-1e53aad7fb7a&displaylang=en&tm)

When I attempted to install the update, it said my version of Windows Mobile is incompatible :(

Would this problem be fixed in this ROM automatically or do I need to revert to some old crappy WM version to apply this patch if I want to ever send email again?

There's an extra "http" in your link address. I think you meant it to be this (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=d9d71b2e-d2dd-44f2-86e5-1e53aad7fb7a&displaylang=en&tm).

[Da_G]

Actually, that link says it applies to:

NOTE - Windows Mobile 6.1.1 through 6.1.3

NATF's build is 6.1.5..

[kahibbi]

I'm still having issues with the Co-Pilot nav software. It worked fine up until v3.2 of the NATF ROM then started freezing. I got everything all loaded up after flashing the new v4 ROM and tested Co-Pilot on the way into the office this morning. As it did on v3.2, the app froze completely when trying to select a specific Contact location.

I hate to go back down to v2.2 after seeing all the imprevements in speed with v4. I haven't experienced any other issues as have some have mentioned. But I need the nav software and for some reason it's just not working as it did on previous NATF ROMs (meaning v2.2 and prior). I have aGPS set as not enabled. I can check to see if enabling this will make a difference, but I can't imagine this will make it work as previous replies to my pleas for help have suggested turning aGPS off.

The app just freezes when selecting a destination. Hmpf!

[Captain_Throwback]

So, I decided to flash a newer radio to my phone, and see if that made any difference with my Exchange issue. At first, it had no effect. But then, I hard reset, entered my server info into the phone, and it actually started to sync! It enforced security policy on my device and made me set up a password, and then, nothing. It stopped synchronizing, and the "Sync" soft key became unresponsive. I closed out of Activesync, reopened it, hit "Sync", and it started to Sync, and then quickly stopped before actually doing anything. I'm going to soft reset and see if it'll work.

The one difference I noticed this time is that when I was typing in my server info, there's was an input box that showed up on the bottom of the screen as I typed. I had to press Enter after everything for it to actually input in the box. I can't imagine that its related to Activesync, but that's the only difference between what happened this time and all the other times. I think there was an error message when my phone forst turned on, but I didn't see what it was.

[nableezy]

Da_g's thread has a cab to fix the volume keys in htc volume control, works with me though the volume display still doesnt and long press end vibrate does not work, will set system to vibrate but not ring:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3130964#post3130964

[Da_G]

HTC Volume Control vibrate/ring issue is problem with new OS build 21009, don't see a fix on the horizon. but rumors that a new build is coming shortly, might address the issue.. or add more! :)

[prisoner881]

Same Problem here

Mine's working fine. I'm running NATF v4 Standard and I haven't loaded any new apps (yet). I upgraded from the stock AT&T ROM.

[hidden_dragon]

no theme at all, just a glass clock cab

So, was it working before you installed the glass clock?

[ryan6603]

So, I decided to flash a newer radio to my phone, and see if that made any difference with my Exchange issue. At first, it had no effect. But then, I hard reset, entered my server info into the phone, and it actually started to sync! It enforced security policy on my device and made me set up a password, and then, nothing. It stopped synchronizing, and the "Sync" soft key became unresponsive. I closed out of Activesync, reopened it, hit "Sync", and it started to Sync, and then quickly stopped before actually doing anything. I'm going to soft reset and see if it'll work.

The one difference I noticed this time is that when I was typing in my server info, there's was an input box that showed up on the bottom of the screen as I typed. I had to press Enter after everything for it to actually input in the box. I can't imagine that its related to Activesync, but that's the only difference between what happened this time and all the other times. I think there was an error message when my phone forst turned on, but I didn't see what it was.

I don't see why the radio would have anything to do with exchange. only call/data quality depending on the area you are in. Can't remember seeing if you ever posted your domain server address. how are you putting it in? also how are you doing your user name?
ex. owa.domainserver.com......office.domainserver.com. ..etc.
ex. captain@domainserver.com, just the user name captain, domain/captain,

I have had clients in the past (running ex 03 with self created sec certf.) where when it was the certf. that could not be installed varf that if you went to programs>>system>>AC>>config server>> and you uncheck the SSL option and try to sync again. if it sync's then you know thats it.

[Captain_Throwback]

I don't see why the radio would have anything to do with exchange. only call/data quality depending on the area you are in. Can't remember seeing if you ever posted your domain server address. how are you putting it in? also how are you doing your user name?
ex. owa.domainserver.com......office.domainserver.com. ..etc.
ex. captain@domainserver.com, just the user name captain, domain/captain,

I have had clients in the past (running ex 03 with self created sec certf.) where when it was the certf. that could not be installed varf that if you went to programs>>system>>AC>>config server>> and you uncheck the SSL option and try to sync again. if it sync's then you know thats it.

I know how to put in the info to set up the Exchange server. I've done it probably a hundred or so times. I had re-flashed to 3.2 yesterday and it was working fine. I re-flashed to 4.0 again today to give it another try. I can't uncheck the SSL option because I know for a fact that my company's Exchange server requires SSL (have to log in to OWA using https).

The fact that it almost worked now has me completely puzzled. I'm re-flashing the ROM (for the 3rd or 4th time now) and I'll try once more. I'm not sure how it'll make any difference, but at this point, I figure, hey, why not.

FYI - The error I had when it almost worked was for Voice Command. I've had a few Voice Command errors now.

EDIT: I apologize if I'm getting snippy. This is just completely frustrating, especially since I appear to be the only one having a problem with it. I really do appreciate everyone's help.

[Brau0303]

I like this series of roms, I have the v4.0 FUZE std, and my Raph reboots when in WMP (I am not sure but it almost seems like it is tied to changing the position of the fuze, could the tilt sensor have something to do with this?)

Further Observation -Then Again, perhaps it is not because it just reset when I launched media player and it was sitting flat on the desk.

Cheers
BR

[kennyb123]

Same here, I have no issues pulling up non mobile sites using Opera.

kennyb123 I know that some sites will actually sense a mobile browser and forward you to their mobile site. Engadget does this for sure, it does provide a link at the bottom of the page for the Full version.

What are some of the sites that Opera can't display in "full" mode?

Engadget is the main site I was thinking of. I don't want ANY website to sense Opera as a mobile browser. I don't want to have to scroll down to the bottom of the engadget mobile version and click "view full version" every time.

ESPN forces a mobile version. I'm not sure how their flash-super-heavy main site would fare on Opera, but, that's another one I remembered.

Here's a few more - www.fuzemobility.com, wmpoweruser.com, www.gizmodo.com.

So, anyone that tells me that these sites load the full versions naturally are lying, and have made some changes to their browser. It's those changes I want to know about! Thanks.

[LethalCorpse]

Hi guys,
Currently using ver 3.2, very happy apart from this small irritation. I can't seem to lock the inputs. In the original (three Australia) rom, I just used to hold the end key and get a lock, then tap screen to unlock. The option is still there in settings, but when I hit the end key now, all I get is the owner information (I've set it to display this on startup), then normal operation. I've tried changing it to give the menu on long press end key, all the other features (vibrate, airplane mode, end data connection) work fine, but not the lock. I tried a brief trawl through this thread, but ran out of steam after the first page of unrelated "lock" results. Is it a known issue, and is it fixed in ver 4.0, or is there a workaround I should know about?

[ryan6603]

I know how to put in the info to set up the Exchange server. I've done it probably a hundred or so times. I had re-flashed to 3.2 yesterday and it was working fine. I re-flashed to 4.0 again today to give it another try. I can't uncheck the SSL option because I know for a fact that my company's Exchange server requires SSL (have to log in to OWA using https).

The fact that it almost worked now has me completely puzzled. I'm re-flashing the ROM (for the 3rd or 4th time now) and I'll try once more. I'm not sure how it'll make any difference, but at this point, I figure, hey, why not.

FYI - The error I had when it almost worked was for Voice Command. I've had a few Voice Command errors now.

EDIT: I apologize if I'm getting snippy. This is just completely frustrating, especially since I appear to be the only one having a problem with it. I really do appreciate everyone's help.

I hear ya. I know they have SSL on since you have to use this to get to OWA, but the mobile is lil different. It does not have to be enforced. I just connected to a clients ex03 server by both using the web remote workplace with OWA using SSL and also on a mobile phone and had the SSL unchecked. Just give it a quick shot and turn it off. You've been doing the extreme and reflashing, this is just a few clicks. Not saying it will work but just trying to help you do an analytical problem solving. Get this tested and either you have just exhausted another TS step or you have gotten one step closer in getting to the root cause.

you also said you did no tweaks. so when you flash you are just flashing no UC?

for S's and Giggles, what format are you doing your server address and U/N?

[ryan6603]

Hi guys,
Currently using ver 3.2, very happy apart from this small irritation. I can't seem to lock the inputs. In the original (three Australia) rom, I just used to hold the end key and get a lock, then tap screen to unlock. The option is still there in settings, but when I hit the end key now, all I get is the owner information (I've set it to display this on startup), then normal operation. I've tried changing it to give the menu on long press end key, all the other features (vibrate, airplane mode, end data connection) work fine, but not the lock. I tried a brief trawl through this thread, but ran out of steam after the first page of unrelated "lock" results. Is it a known issue, and is it fixed in ver 4.0, or is there a workaround I should know about?

Start>Settings>System>long press end key>choose your flavor for action

edit:oops didn't see you already tired this. i have mine set to always display the quick list. just tried setting it to lock device on execute. i have no problems as it works for me and locks.

[ryan6603]

Engadget is the main site I was thinking of. I don't want ANY website to sense Opera as a mobile browser. I don't want to have to scroll down to the bottom of the engadget mobile version and click "view full version" every time.

ESPN forces a mobile version. I'm not sure how their flash-super-heavy main site would fare on Opera, but, that's another one I remembered.

Here's a few more - www.fuzemobility.com (http://www.fuzemobility.com), wmpoweruser.com, www.gizmodo.com (http://www.gizmodo.com).

So, anyone that tells me that these sites load the full versions naturally are lying, and have made some changes to their browser. It's those changes I want to know about! Thanks.

i guess i have only been to sites that does not sense what device/browser you are on. i thought in opera if you go to settings and uncheck (default) view mobile but that was not it. i look at the source code for fuze mobility and indeed they have a script that is looking for a mobile device and then redirects to the wp-content (wordpress 2.6.2)
****
<link rel="pingback" href="http://www.fuzemobility.com/xmlrpc.php" />
<script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.fuzemobility.com/wp-content/themes/WP_Premium/taber.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript">
/* Optional: Temporarily hide the "tabber" class so it does not "flash"
on the page as plain HTML. After tabber runs, the class is changed
to "tabberlive" and it will appear. */
document.write('<style type="text/css">.tabber{display:none;}<\/style>');
</script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.fuzemobility.com/wp-content/themes/WP_Premium/hover.js"></script>
****
i then tried in IE to see if it does the same thing since this is a full version but it does the same thing (amazing enough it actually loaded the fuzemobility page quicker.) so ya that sucks. i hope i don't run in to this problem but if anybody has a clue how to force it to be a full site please give input.

i'm guessing that ping it receives back will tell if it is the mobile device or not but not sure. If so there must be a entry/reg edit somewhere that you can trick the sites into thinking you have a full non mobile browser.
NATF any thoughts on this?

[Captain_Throwback]

I hear ya. I know they have SSL on since you have to use this to get to OWA, but the mobile is lil different. It does not have to be enforced. I just connected to a clients ex03 server by both using the web remote workplace with OWA using SSL and also on a mobile phone and had the SSL unchecked. Just give it a quick shot and turn it off. You've been doing the extreme and reflashing, this is just a few clicks. Not saying it will work but just trying to help you do an analytical problem solving. Get this tested and either you have just exhausted another TS step or you have gotten one step closer in getting to the root cause.

you also said you did no tweaks. so when you flash you are just flashing no UC?

for S's and Giggles, what format are you doing your server address and U/N?

I'm about to try this now. Of course, I have to hard reset first, because now my phone is getting stuck at the HTC logo screen. It'll give me a chance to reflash my old radio back anyway.

EDIT:w/o the SSL box checked, Activesync is just stuck at "Synchronizing", and isn't doing anything.

I put in my server address the same as my OWA address, just w/o the "https://" preceding it. For my username, I just put that in the field, rather than the doman\username, and put my domain in the Domain field. Its always worked for me in the past, so I don't know why it shouldn't work now.

Is anyone else having any random freezing issues? I also keep getting an error message when using iGO (either that or it starts but freezes soon thereafter).

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=143956&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1231333171 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=143956&d=1231333171)

It seems that this ROM is very unstable for me.

Hi guys,
Currently using ver 3.2, very happy apart from this small irritation. I can't seem to lock the inputs. In the original (three Australia) rom, I just used to hold the end key and get a lock, then tap screen to unlock. The option is still there in settings, but when I hit the end key now, all I get is the owner information (I've set it to display this on startup), then normal operation. I've tried changing it to give the menu on long press end key, all the other features (vibrate, airplane mode, end data connection) work fine, but not the lock. I tried a brief trawl through this thread, but ran out of steam after the first page of unrelated "lock" results. Is it a known issue, and is it fixed in ver 4.0, or is there a workaround I should know about?

I also saw this issue on 3.2, but I haven't been able to test it on 4.0 (see my previous posts with my plethora of problems)

[Captain_Throwback]

got it, both wifi and isp work now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2991729

step 1

Edit:
Connection without proxy works both in media net and att isp, maybe include this as it also add wi-fi to java?

I tried this, and deleting the first registry entry mentioned in the thread indeed allows Java to connect using WiFi. Maybe that update can be made in the next ROM? I don't know if there are any side effects, but I can't imagine what they'd be, or that they'd be tragic or irreversible. I didn't notice any, myself.

[Lostwarriorram]

EDIT:w/o the SSL box checked, Activesync is just stuck at "Synchronizing", and isn't doing anything.


As a side note, you would be able to get the certificates from your IT dept and install it manually. I used to gladly provide our exchange server SSL certificate to our users if they run into this kind of problem. It used to be a manual install process with windows mobile 5.0 (couple of years ago).

Give a try. That would eliminate your certificate theory.

[NotATreoFan]

The one difference I noticed this time is that when I was typing in my server info, there's was an input box that showed up on the bottom of the screen as I typed. I had to press Enter after everything for it to actually input in the box. I can't imagine that its related to Activesync, but that's the only difference between what happened this time and all the other times.

To disable this input box, bring up the onscreen keyboard, and change T9 to ABC. I very much doubt this is the source of your issue, but wouldn't you just love it if it was? ;)

I like this series of roms, I have the v4.0 FUZE std, and my Raph reboots when in WMP (I am not sure but it almost seems like it is tied to changing the position of the fuze, could the tilt sensor have something to do with this?)

Further Observation -Then Again, perhaps it is not because it just reset when I launched media player and it was sitting flat on the desk.

Cheers
BR

Try formatting your SD card, and reloading your music. I keep about 200 songs/ringtones on my SD card, and I have no problem with WMP crashing.

Engadget is the main site I was thinking of. I don't want ANY website to sense Opera as a mobile browser. I don't want to have to scroll down to the bottom of the engadget mobile version and click "view full version" every time.

ESPN forces a mobile version. I'm not sure how their flash-super-heavy main site would fare on Opera, but, that's another one I remembered.

Here's a few more - www.fuzemobility.com, wmpoweruser.com, www.gizmodo.com.

So, anyone that tells me that these sites load the full versions naturally are lying, and have made some changes to their browser. It's those changes I want to know about! Thanks.

There is a thread somewhere on XDA that explains how to change Opera's User Agent to identify itself an an iPhone, and that in turn allow you to jump on Starbucks' WiFi for free.

I would try to find out what User Agent the desktop version of Opera uses, and change your Opera.ini file to reflect that... I don't know if it will work, but it's worth a shot.

Hi guys,
Currently using ver 3.2, very happy apart from this small irritation. I can't seem to lock the inputs. In the original (three Australia) rom, I just used to hold the end key and get a lock, then tap screen to unlock. The option is still there in settings, but when I hit the end key now, all I get is the owner information (I've set it to display this on startup), then normal operation. I've tried changing it to give the menu on long press end key, all the other features (vibrate, airplane mode, end data connection) work fine, but not the lock. I tried a brief trawl through this thread, but ran out of steam after the first page of unrelated "lock" results. Is it a known issue, and is it fixed in ver 4.0, or is there a workaround I should know about?

No problem with the screen locking with long end press. I tried it with Quick List, and by itself.

[ryan6603]

I'm about to try this now. Of course, I have to hard reset first, because now my phone is getting stuck at the HTC logo screen. It'll give me a chance to reflash my old radio back anyway.

EDIT:w/o the SSL box checked, Activesync is just stuck at "Synchronizing", and isn't doing anything.

I put in my server address the same as my OWA address, just w/o the "https://" preceding it. For my username, I just put that in the field, rather than the doman\username, and put my domain in the Domain field. Its always worked for me in the past, so I don't know why it shouldn't work now.

Is anyone else having any random freezing issues? I also keep getting an error message when using iGO (either that or it starts but freezes soon thereafter).

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=143956&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1231333171 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=143956&d=1231333171)

It seems that this ROM is very unstable for me.



I also saw this issue on 3.2, but I haven't been able to test it on 4.0 (see my previous posts with my plethora of problems)

have you tried putting the user name user@domain.com and leaving the domain name clear. This is how i have been setting it up. May not work for you. could try the domain/user. But, i agree with you. if it worked in 3.2 it should work for you now. On the unstable note, it has been great for me. fast gps lock, no freezes, quick response opening program or tab browsing, no issues with text (except mentioned) or email. almost night and day for speed from 3.2, almost. I even tried the fuzeberry skin this time with no probs (did notch the speed down little in some functions but not enough to really mention.)
good luck. i'm sure 4.1 is right around the corner...so your next flash...

[NotATreoFan]

have you tried putting the user name user@domain.com and leaving the domain name clear. This is how i have been setting it up. May not work for you. could try the domain/user. But, i agree with you. if it worked in 3.2 it should work for you now. On the unstable note, it has been great for me. fast gps lock, no freezes, quick response opening program or tab browsing, no issues with text (except mentioned) or email. almost night and day for speed from 3.2, almost. I even tried the fuzeberry skin this time with no probs (did notch the speed down little in some functions but not enough to really mention.)
good luck. i'm sure 4.1 is right around the corner...so your next flash...

v4.1 is going to be a hybrid based on Da_G's latest release, so hopefully stepping some parts down to 209xx will resolve the Exchange issue for everyone who's still having it.

[Captain_Throwback]

v4.1 is going to be a hybrid based on Da_G's latest release, so hopefully stepping some parts down to 209xx will resolve the Exchange issue for everyone who's still having it.

Well, I figured out my problem. Its actually related to this post from earlier:

Here's another interesting issue: I have my 16GB microSDHC card partitioned into two separate drives, which has always been fine. Now, however, both HTC Album and HTC Music Player are only seeing my Storage Card (and not Storage Card2, where I keep all my Pics/Music/Documents). File Explorer and the Device see them fine, it just appears to be those two apps. Not sure why that is.

It seems that HTC Album and Music Player in this OS build don't see the second partition of the Storage Card correctly. So everything in the system was unstable and out of memory (causing freezes, lock-ups, etc) because these apps couldn't figure out how to read the data from Storage Card2. I took out the card and everything started working perfectly. I put it back in, and seemed okay for a while (Album and Music Player actually saw my pics & music, though they still didn't see Storage Card2), but it froze up when I tried to run iGO. I think I'm going to reformat the card with a single partition (I really didn't have a good reason for having it partitioned anyway), and hopefully it should make the phone happy. Thanks to everyone for your help!

[vcooke6902]

Well, I still haven't been able to send any MMS messages..I have checked every config I can think of. Now I think it must be a registry setting that has changed somehow. I was told by ATT that if I cannot connect to media net then I will not be able to send MMS. This isn't urgent, just bugs the hell out of me that I can't do it!!!

Another issue I am having with the new build is when I use Slingmedia (Slingbox). Sometimes while I'm watching tv on the phone it locks the whole phone up. They just updated their software on the website to support fuze so I downloaded it and that seems to lock up more often then the previous version (which locks up occassionally but never locked up b4 with the previous version. Anyone else use slingbox AND IF YOU DON'T YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT UR MISSING!!!!!

[Lostwarriorram]

Well, I figured out my problem.

Are you able to synch your phone with your exchange server now?

[silvertorch]

There is a thread somewhere on XDA that explains how to change Opera's User Agent to identify itself an an iPhone, and that in turn allow you to jump on Starbucks' WiFi for free.

I would try to find out what User Agent the desktop version of Opera uses, and change your Opera.ini file to reflect that... I don't know if it will work, but it's worth a shot.

This is the thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457314)that NATF is talking about.

I think I can get it to work, trying it right now ...

... or not.

I have modifed the opera config file so that it sends out the User Agent as "Opera/9.63 (Windows NT 6.0; U; en)"

and I have verified it as well by going to this website (http://www.useragentstring.com), but Engadget still defaults to the mobile version of their site.

I guess I'll try a few other User Agent strings, but I dont know if it will help.

Using "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1)", Google loads the full page, but engadget still pulls up the mobile site, same with kotaku.

I'm lost at this point, maybe someone else can chime in on it?

[Captain_Throwback]

Are you able to synch your phone with your exchange server now?

Yes, thankfully. Apparently it was just a matter of the phone not having enough memory because of my unrecognized partitioned Storage Card. Odd, I know, but it works fine without the card in the phone, and I'm in the process of unpartitioning the card and putting it back in to see if it still works.

EDIT: I didn't realize I didn't mention in my last post that my Exchange Activesync was finally working. I should've known it was unrelated to the Exchange server, because it wouldn't even sync to my local computer.

[DNA]

Did you remove the shortcut key for IM (fn + IM) in the registry or keypad.dll? How can I add the shortcut key back? Thank you


Just in case someone runs into the same problem.

I've been using WebMessenger and I just renamed the shortcut to "Instant Messaging.lnk" in windows/start manu/program to make the fn+IM to open the program.

It didn't work in v4.0.

I overwrote the keypad.dll w/ the one from v3.2 and the fn + IM worked right the way w/o restarting.

[Noonski]

v4.1 is going to be a hybrid based on Da_G's latest release, so hopefully stepping some parts down to 209xx will resolve the Exchange issue for everyone who's still having it.

Also check if you can revert some of the Bluetooth from the old build.

I'm having issues reconnecting my BT Stereo headset that i've never had with any other rom or build. (have to remove device and reconnect completely)

And maybe i didn't notice it before but it also seems to be a bit slower at searching BT devices and the interface has undergone a slight change.

But might also be me mind playing tricks on me

[juanikiki]

NATF:

I have been looking for an Alarms/Timer/Stopwatch app for the fuze but haven't been able to find anything good in one package. CodeCity Alarms is the app that I have used since WM5. The problem is that when I installed it on the Fuze (NATF v3.2) it runs good but sometimes the phone pops error screens saying that it can not run CodrCity Alarms.exe or rapill.dll (or something like that), also you can set up alarms they never go off like you never set them. Activesync seems to be disable (the rapill that I mentioned before I think is part of activesync). Last its the fact that after softreset the HTC keyboard selection disappear leaving only the small PPC full keyboard, the only way to enable the HTC touch keyboards is unistalling the alarms app. If somebody can recommend me a good Alarms/Timer/Stopwatch app to replace this one, thanks a lot!

I change my fuze ROM all the time but your version is the most stable that I have tried, so since Dec 24 I haven't change the ROM :D also very few softresets not related to ROM. Thanks NATF and everybody that work on this project (School of ROM Cooking).

This are screenshots of the app:



This is the cab is somebody wants to help or try it:

[NotATreoFan]

Also check if you can revert some of the Bluetooth from the old build.

I'm having issues reconnecting my BT Stereo headset that i've never had with any other rom or build. (have to remove device and reconnect completely)

And maybe i didn't notice it before but it also seems to be a bit slower at searching BT devices and the interface has undergone a slight change.

But might also be me mind playing tricks on me

I've never messed with BT drivers specifically. Do you know which files I need to replace?

[jtsurfs]

I finally figured out that the HTC Enlarge Title Bar cab was the fix for the status menu issue. I am completely happy with this ROM. Great work, excellent speed, excellent battery life! :cool:

[Lostwarriorram]

NATF, Are we expecting 4.1 any soon? What are the bugs which might need to be fixed in 4.1?

[tadevinney]

Quote:
Originally Posted by tadevinney
Can anyone confirm if Video Share is working? Is there anything special I need to do on Fuze to enable it?

As long as you have Video Share on your account, tapping the Video Share icon in the dialer should work. I can't confirm this since I don't use Video Share, and all my frenemies have Verizon.
__________________

So has Anyone gotten video Share to work?

I can confirm that Video Share is working on NATF v 4.0. However, this is a pain to use on this phone. First, you must establish an internet connection then go back to your phone call and the video share icon will be lit (provided you are talking to someone else on At&t using 3G and the video share enabled on their plan). But it does work..

[NotATreoFan]

NATF, Are we expecting 4.1 any soon? What are the bugs which might need to be fixed in 4.1?

Most likely tomorrow night; bug fixes are still TBD.

[Lostwarriorram]

Most likely tomorrow night; bug fixes are still TBD.

Appreciate that immediate reply.

I am waiting for this crazylilboy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3131748&postcount=1401) to sign his dlls and come up with a cab file to install that taskbar before I could upgrade myself to 4.1

[Lostwarriorram]

Most likely tomorrow night; bug fixes are still TBD.

Do you think it would be a good idea to maintain a bug list or something similar to that? This way you or others don't have to scroll through pages to find out if there are any bugs as well as fixes.

[tchaseb]

Sorry if this has already been posted. The only problem I'm encountering is when someone calls me while I'm already on the phone. Their picture shows up, but the name says not available. Any suggestions to fix this?

[Captain_Throwback]

Hi guys,
Currently using ver 3.2, very happy apart from this small irritation. I can't seem to lock the inputs. In the original (three Australia) rom, I just used to hold the end key and get a lock, then tap screen to unlock. The option is still there in settings, but when I hit the end key now, all I get is the owner information (I've set it to display this on startup), then normal operation. I've tried changing it to give the menu on long press end key, all the other features (vibrate, airplane mode, end data connection) work fine, but not the lock. I tried a brief trawl through this thread, but ran out of steam after the first page of unrelated "lock" results. Is it a known issue, and is it fixed in ver 4.0, or is there a workaround I should know about?

No problem with the screen locking with long end press. I tried it with Quick List, and by itself.

I'm having the same issue as LC. NATF, did you first add Owner Info to the device, and have that info show up when the device is turned on? I'm using 4.0, and if I use Long Press End Key to lock the device with those settings, all it does is show me my info, and never locks it.

[kennyb123]

Do you think it would be a good idea to maintain a bug list or something similar to that? This way you or others don't have to scroll through pages to find out if there are any bugs as well as fixes.

It may not be updated with everything that has been established as bugs, but he does maintain a buglist. Check post #2.

Issues and Bug Reports:


[v4.0]

* SMS Unread Count: Multiple messages in the same thread must all be viewed to reset the unread count. This is not a glitch in my ROM specifically; it has existed since the 20xxx OS build. Update: There is a possible fix for this, but it requires cooking. I will whip up a batch of v4.1 sometime tomorrow and try it out.
* Stylus Drag-to-Select: Microsoft has begun to add touch scroll features to Windows Mobile, and for that reason, you can no longer drag your stylus to select multiple messages.
* The Volume Up and Volume Down buttons cause HTC Volume Control to pop up, but you cannot adjust the volume. Temporary Workaround: Press either Volume button, tap System or Ring, then drag your finger up or down the bar to change the volume. Note: Programs like Windows Media Player still work with the hardware buttons because they do not pop up HTC Volume Control when in use.

[Lostwarriorram]

It may not be updated with everything that has been established as bugs, but he does maintain a buglist. Check post #2.


Aargh! I guess, I should stop jumping to last page of this thread every morning & hit F5 until I go to bed.

Thanks for pointing out.

[nableezy]

I'm having the same issue as LC. NATF, did you first add Owner Info to the device, and have that info show up when the device is turned on? I'm using 4.0, and if I use Long Press End Key to lock the device with those settings, all it does is show me my info, and never locks it.
I just set owner info to display on startup and lock still works for me, both from menu and automatic long end.

[Captain_Throwback]

I just set owner info to display on startup and lock still works for me, both from menu and automatic long end.

Its working for me now too. Curious.

[jank0023]

This first happened two weeks ago, when I play an MP3 in Mediaplayer the Fuze will reboot. I can play with the Manila player and no issues.

A couple things..I dropped my phone right before this started happening. Could this be a hardware problem?

After having some other strange items occur I flashed a new ROM and did not encounter a problem RRE 4.0. When I installed RRE 4.1 and NATF 4.0 the phone reboots with both.

Any ideas? This happens whether I'm using USB adapter with headphones or bluetooth headset.

[martyramos]

I have been looking for an Alarms/Timer/Stopwatch app for the fuze but haven't been able to find anything good in one package....If somebody can recommend me a good Alarms/Timer/Stopwatch app to replace this one, thanks a lot!


I use SPB Time (http://beta.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/time/) but it costs $$$ after the trial expires...

[xcsdm]

I can tell you that I use Windows Media Player exclusively to play my MP3 library. My 8gb SD card is 70% full of nothing but MP3s. The bitrates range from 128 to 256 kbps. I have never had a reboot on my Fuze while using WMP.

80% of the time, I'm using the USB adapter into my car stereo. However, I do use my Sony BT headphones, and have experienced no issues

XC


This first happened two weeks ago, when I play an MP3 in Mediaplayer the Fuze will reboot. I can play with the Manila player and no issues.

A couple things..I dropped my phone right before this started happening. Could this be a hardware problem?

After having some other strange items occur I flashed a new ROM and did not encounter a problem RRE 4.0. When I installed RRE 4.1 and NATF 4.0 the phone reboots with both.

Any ideas? This happens whether I'm using USB adapter with headphones or bluetooth headset.

[DNA]

I just set owner info to display on startup and lock still works for me, both from menu and automatic long end.

How can I access the lock function in the menu?

[CR7KB24]

Does any one have any problems with the screen switching back to portrait mode when the keyboard is opened?





- Andrew

[jank0023]

I had been using CustomRUU to load various ROMs. To load NATF 4.0 I used Raphaelwrapper...now when I try to load a different ROM using either CustomRUU or Raphaelwrapper I am left with NATF initial splash screen...how do I remove that? Its as if it wrote data earlier then when the ROM loaders can now access..

[Noonski]

I've never messed with BT drivers specifically. Do you know which files I need to replace?

Didn't have a peak into your Sys ;)

But i'm refereing to the regular BT stuff

Bluetooth
BTDUN
Bth_A2DP
Bth_HID

I will try to see if i can replace them directly with Cabs (small chance) and report back.

Nope can't replace and test it by Cab.

But it's testable in one flash if replacing these folders in SYS causes a "There's no Bluetooth device connected" when going to turn Bluetooth on then something has changed for sure in that rom and it can't be fized with the above older version. But it just proves that something has changed in the system only we won't be able to know what ;)

If it starts up without that error i can test to see if it's resolved.

[Captain_Throwback]

I'm having an issue using iGO 8.0.0.x with 4.0 where the app starts, but as soon as I press a button, the phone resets. I've seen others report similar issues with WMP, so I'm thinking its probably ROM-related. Just thought I'd note my issue. Hopefully 4.1 will fix everything!

Also, HTC Music Player seems to be having trouble finding all of the music on my Storage Card. Windows Media Player and CorePlayer can see and play it fine. Anyone else having similar issues?

EDIT: I stand corrected. It finally found all my music. I guess all it needed was time.

[Noonski]

I had been using CustomRUU to load various ROMs. To load NATF 4.0 I used Raphaelwrapper...now when I try to load a different ROM using either CustomRUU or Raphaelwrapper I am left with NATF initial splash screen...how do I remove that? Its as if it wrote data earlier then when the ROM loaders can now access..

I have this little plug in in my signature, it's a good friend of mine.

And it's going to be your friend to hopefully.

Check what he told me:
http://www.google.nl/search?q=change+boot+screen+raphael&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

The things people come up with these days!
Sometimes so simple but ever so effective!

It would be nice if you would teach this new learned knowledge and spread the word by getting my acceptance to copy my signature.

[NotATreoFan]

Appreciate that immediate reply.

I am waiting for this crazylilboy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3131748&postcount=1401) to sign his dlls and come up with a cab file to install that taskbar before I could upgrade myself to 4.1

Nice icons! Anyone object to including these in the ROM?

I'm having the same issue as LC. NATF, did you first add Owner Info to the device, and have that info show up when the device is turned on? I'm using 4.0, and if I use Long Press End Key to lock the device with those settings, all it does is show me my info, and never locks it.

I never enter Owner Info since my phone gets flash 3-4 times a day on average. ;)

I had been using CustomRUU to load various ROMs. To load NATF 4.0 I used Raphaelwrapper...now when I try to load a different ROM using either CustomRUU or Raphaelwrapper I am left with NATF initial splash screen...how do I remove that? Its as if it wrote data earlier then when the ROM loaders can now access..

The splash screen is part of my RAPHIMG.nbh file. Unless the other ROMs you're flashing include a splash, mine will not be overwritten.

Change you splash screen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431161

Didn't have a peak into your Sys ;)

But i'm refereing to the regular BT stuff

Bluetooth
BTDUN
Bth_A2DP
Bth_HID

I will try to see if i can replace them directly with Cabs (small chance) and report back.

Nope can't replace and test it by Cab.

But it's testable in one flash if replacing these folders in SYS causes a "There's no Bluetooth device connected" when going to turn Bluetooth on then something has changed for sure in that rom and it can't be fized with the above older version. But it just proves that something has changed in the system only we won't be able to know what ;)

If it starts up without that error i can test to see if it's resolved.

I'll experiment around with these.

[jaredangus]

The patch did not identify my version of Windows Mobile as 6.1.5, but as "6.1 AKU 1.6.0.0 build 21009". Also, while Microsoft says that the problem is fixed in version 6.1.4, the problem DOES exist on my Fuze with NATF 4.0.

Just to be clear, I know that this is NOT NATF's fault. I understand this is a problem with Windows Mobile! So for people reading this post, don't think anything less of NATF's work because of this problem, think less of Microsoft!!!

My email works when I set it up, but if I fail a send, all sends from that point forward fail until I delete my account and create a new one. I don't know what if anything can be done about this.

At least I can still check my email by navigating to my email website...

[jank0023]

I have this little plug in in my signature, it's a good friend of mine.

And it's going to be your friend to hopefully.

Check what he told me:
http://www.google.nl/search?q=change+boot+screen+raphael&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

The things people come up with these days!
Sometimes so simple but ever so effective!

It would be nice if you would teach this new learned knowledge and spread the word by getting my acceptance to copy my signature.

When I flash a new ROM why would this not have been erased though. My phone is splashing NATFs and then splashes RRE which is the current ROM I have installed. I dont think your post fixes my issue


Disregard I hadn't seen NATF's response yet.

[aadadams]

Nice icons! Anyone object to including these in the ROM?

Those icons are nice, and I would not object.

[Noonski]

BT reconnect issue also happening with my older headset after a hard reset.

Am i the only one having this with the headsets, one Sony and one Philips?

Buy them now for extremely steep prices
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When I flash a new ROM why would this not have been erased though. My phone is splashing NATFs and then splashes RRE which is the current ROM I have installed. I don't think your post fixes my issue

Sometimes people don't provide the first boot splash in their Roms so the last one stays in.

Sometimes we cook them in on purpose because they're cool and it will force those that don't know how to change the splash screen, to ask the question that we can then answer. (Could have almost been a House M.D Quote)


You could try to download the Raph Kitchen. Not to cook with it but to do only one thing.
Check if a rom has a splash screen included.

Just throw the Renamed DIAMIM.nhb to RUU_signed and throw it into the kitchen base rom folder.
Then press the begin batch file, Press one then enter, Press enter when it asks until it stops asking and exitst

Eventually 5 extra files should have appeared (or less if the boothscreen is missing):
00_Unknown.nb
01_SPL.nb
02_MainSplash.bmp
02_MainSplash.nb
&
OS.NB

If you have the 02_MainSplash.nb it means the cooked rom has a bootscreen attached.

If it's not there it can't be extracted from the rom.

Or am i missing something?

[ssherrill]

First, the GPS is on fire now (seems to be working with AGPS enabled).

Two big issues though:
1) OCN8 (OnCourse Navigator - American version of iGo) is rebooting my Fuze when I try to look up a POI and set it as the destination. I have previously been running this program under Factory ROM and NATF 3.2 with no problems.
2) Windows Media player is crashing every time I try to play a song.

Help me understand:
1) New ROMs by Da-G = we are trying beta copies of MS Windows Mobile with undocumented features (problems and solutions)?
2) How do you get your data (the real reason for having the phone) restored after flashing a new ROM (I am using Sprite backup that came with Fuze, and wondering if I am creating the problem by restoring some settings that are no longer appropriate with NATF 4.0.

Hey, thanks for the help!
Stuart

[Lostwarriorram]

Those icons are nice, and I would not object.

Right now, that thread is kind of messed up since people seems to step over each other. Hopefully, things finalize by tonight.

[Stoneyguy]

Those icons are nice, and I would not object.

I like the icons as well. I am worried however that the percentage for the battery life would be unreadable.

[htcfan78]

Appreciate that immediate reply.

I am waiting for this crazylilboy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3131748&postcount=1401) to sign his dlls and come up with a cab file to install that taskbar before I could upgrade myself to 4.1

I have a similar icon set based on this one (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2834673&postcount=193), but I modified the cab to include a vista-style start button. You can find the cab in my 4shared account that is linked in my signature.

[nableezy]

Nice icons! Anyone object to including these in the ROM?
Personally am partial to the current set, but they are easy to replace either way, I think the battery is a lil harder to read with this one (just installed the cab linked on the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3135370#post3135370) Either way I think would be cool, just might want to provide the location of the cab to get the old ones in case.

[Captain_Throwback]

First, the GPS is on fire now (seems to be working with AGPS enabled).

true dat!

1) OCN8 (OnCourse Navigator - American version of iGo) is rebooting my Fuze when I try to look up a POI and set it as the destination. I have previously been running this program under Factory ROM and NATF 3.2 with no problems.

I have this same problem (as I've already noted). It does seem to work with the newer series of iGO versions, however (8.3.2.x).

2) How do you get your data (the real reason for having the phone) restored after flashing a new ROM (I am using Sprite backup that came with Fuze, and wondering if I am creating the problem by restoring some settings that are no longer appropriate with NATF 4.0

Using Sprite shouldn't break anything (don't quote me on that, though). I have a folder on my Storage Card with all the cabs I need to reinstall, and I do that every time I flash a new ROM. I think that sometimes its a good idea to install everything one at a time, so you can see how each program interacts with the new ROM. So, maybe I take back what I said about Sprite, then. Some of those programs may not play nice with the ROM, like OCN/iGO.

[Captain_Throwback]

I like the icons as well. I am worried however that the percentage for the battery life would be unreadable.

Agreed. The font on that will likely be difficult to read, considering where it'll be on the screen and its size.

[nableezy]

First, the GPS is on fire now (seems to be working with AGPS enabled).

Two big issues though:
1) OCN8 (OnCourse Navigator - American version of iGo) is rebooting my Fuze when I try to look up a POI and set it as the destination. I have previously been running this program under Factory ROM and NATF 3.2 with no problems.
2) Windows Media player is crashing every time I try to play a song.

Help me understand:
1) New ROMs by Da-G = we are trying beta copies of MS Windows Mobile with undocumented features (problems and solutions)?
2) How do you get your data (the real reason for having the phone) restored after flashing a new ROM (I am using Sprite backup that came with Fuze, and wondering if I am creating the problem by restoring some settings that are no longer appropriate with NATF 4.0.

Hey, thanks for the help!
Stuart
you shouldnt be using sprite backup between roms, unless I am mistaken it can cause some issues with the registry and files in \Windows. If you want to be able to quickly install programs that you know you will always install first thing out of a flash, look at user customization here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337. Then also backup contacts and other portable data with PPCPimBackup, gooogle will find.

[nableezy]

Agreed. The font on that will likely be difficult to read, considering where it'll be on the screen and its size.
It is difficult, combine the size with the colors; it looks blurry with a white bolded font.

[sguerra923]

Im down for the new icons looks sweet and clean! :D

[LCBrewing]

Might be a good idea to add the "Partitioned SD card" comments, as it looks like more than a couple of people have noted issues surrounding having a partitioned card on this thread. Including it being the source of Captain_Throwback's Exchange woes. Makes me wonder if that might be the source of some of the reported random soft-reset reports when using the media player and/or other programs...

[htcfan78]

Why not just provide a cab for the Icon sets, and let the individual decide which ones they want? My cab is attached. Again, I cannot take credit for this great work (credit is due for massi959), I just added my own start button.

[ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH]

Since we are all talking about adding stuff, what do people think about having 'slide to answer' in the ROM, if it is possible...

http://www.ppcmobility.com/forums/showthread.php?t=390

Try it out, but my butt and wallet have answered way to many calls, and I like this application. :p

[Lostwarriorram]

Why not just provide a cab for the Icon sets, and let the individual decide which ones they want? My cab is attached. Again, I cannot take credit for this great work (credit is due for massi959), I just added my own start button.

Picture is worth 1000 words!

[ryan6603]

It is difficult, combine the size with the colors; it looks blurry with a white bolded font.

i'm good with the new icons. little more modern. the font is already hard to read as you have to get a good look at it anyways. you can always ask your MSVC "what is my battery level" and then you don't need the eyes!

if the font is difficult to read for the mass, how hard would it be to change the font?

[Captain_Throwback]

Might be a good idea to add the "Partitioned SD card" comments, as it looks like more than a couple of people have noted issues surrounding having a partitioned card on this thread. Including it being the source of Captain_Throwback's Exchange woes. Makes me wonder if that might be the source of some of the reported random soft-reset reports when using the media player and/or other programs...

Someone else reported this? I must've missed that. I thought it was just me saying it over and over again. I wonder if my using a 16GB card is making any difference?

[ryan6603]

Since we are all talking about adding stuff, what do people think about having 'slide to answer' in the ROM, if it is possible...

http://www.ppcmobility.com/forums/showthread.php?t=390

Try it out, but my butt and wallet have answered way to many calls, and I like this application. :p

I'm all for S2U2. from my experience ( and looks like many more) this is the leader in battery life and stability. gives you both the slide to answer,slide to unlock, a battery meter on front (that you can read the font if other icons are used) and some other customization features. Quick install and lite.

[ryan6603]

Someone else reported this? I must've missed that. I thought it was just me saying it over and over again. I wonder if my using a 16GB card is making any difference?

i have a 16gb card and have over 10gb of music on it. i listen to it mostly with the usb adapter to mini stereo in my cars. i'm using WMP.

[Captain_Throwback]

i have a 16gb card and have over 10gb of music on it. i listen to it mostly with the usb adapter to mini stereo in my cars. i'm using WMP.

And you have no freezes/random resets using the 4.0 ROM? I haven't tried playing music just yet, but I'm about to leave work, so I'll be testing that in a few minutes.

[josbald1975]

I have a similar icon set based on this one (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2834673&postcount=193), but I modified the cab to include a vista-style start button. You can find the cab in my 4shared account that is linked in my signature.

that's the one I'm using :)

[ryan6603]

And you have no freezes/random resets using the 4.0 ROM? I haven't tried playing music just yet, but I'm about to leave work, so I'll be testing that in a few minutes.

today for the 1st full day of driving after 4.0. I listened to a little of 4 hours of non stop playing. (except for a few pauses between job sites.)

[Lostwarriorram]

It is difficult, combine the size with the colors; it looks blurry with a white bolded font.

I successfully installed the ICON set on NATF 3.2. The % is looks absolutely fine for me. No blurs or whatsoever. I will try this with V4.0 tonight and post a feedback. There is a very little font size different from existing % font.

[rareness4]

First, the GPS is on fire now (seems to be working with AGPS enabled).

Two big issues though:
1) OCN8 (OnCourse Navigator - American version of iGo) is rebooting my Fuze when I try to look up a POI and set it as the destination. I have previously been running this program under Factory ROM and NATF 3.2 with no problems.


This happens to me too, I thought it was the program itself.

I have a similar icon set based on this one (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2834673&postcount=193), but I modified the cab to include a vista-style start button. You can find the cab in my 4shared account that is linked in my signature.

I use massi's icon set too and bias toward it. I think it would be better for ppl to chose their own.

[sguerra923]

How about this icon set from Mskip?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2816185&postcount=3772

I know its for the tilt but can we use this for the fuze?

[garyfunk]

Where di I start?
Nice icons! Anyone object to including these in the ROM?
I'd like to see these. They look nice.
WMP is working great for me. I have an eight gig card with many songs on it.
The 4.0 ROM is working pretty well for me. I've only had the phone for five days, so I am still learning it's new features.
The only problem I can't find a fix for, is bluetooth with my 2008 Nissan Pathfinder. While other phones work great, the Tilt and tyhe Fuze do not. I have no idea if this is a Nissan or a HTC problem. If any of you have suggestions (other than a new car), please let me know.

Best regards,
Gary Funk

[Lostwarriorram]

Where di I start?

I'd like to see these. They look nice.
WMP is working great for me. I have an eight gig card with many songs on it.
The 4.0 ROM is working pretty well for me. I've only had the phone for five days, so I am still learning it's new features.
The only problem I can't find a fix for, is bluetooth with my 2008 Nissan Pathfinder. While other phones work great, the Tilt and tyhe Fuze do not. I have no idea if this is a Nissan or a HTC problem. If any of you have suggestions (other than a new car), please let me know.

Best regards,
Gary Funk

Go here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3135660&postcount=1501) or you can replace tsowentaskbar5v1.0.cab with this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3135831&postcount=1507) if you need just Crazy's icons.

[cp1md2b]

BT reconnect issue also happening with my older headset after a hard reset.

Am i the only one having this with the headsets, one Sony and one Philips?


@ Noonski, I have Hitech Bluetooth Headset and I too am experiencing an issue with bluetooth streaming. I'm going to try a hard reset tonight. but Im certain it was working fine with NATF 3.2. Bluetooth phone works fine just won't stream music bluetooth.

[Red5]

Question for anyone using the Fuze 4.0 version... is the highlighted color (when you select something) green like the Touch Pro, or is it left orange they way AT&T set it?

[vcooke6902]

Well, I still haven't been able to send any MMS messages..I have checked every config I can think of. Now I think it must be a registry setting that has changed somehow. I was told by ATT that if I cannot connect to media net then I will not be able to send MMS. This isn't urgent, just bugs the hell out of me that I can't do it!!!

Another issue I am having with the new build is when I use Slingmedia (Slingbox). Sometimes while I'm watching tv on the phone it locks the whole phone up. They just updated their software on the website to support fuze so I downloaded it and that seems to lock up more often then the previous version (which locks up occassionally but never locked up b4 with the previous version. Anyone else use slingbox AND IF YOU DON'T YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT UR MISSING!!!!!

So no one is having a problem with Slingmedia? Am I the only one that use it! Its the shiznit!!!

[josbald1975]

Question for anyone using the Fuze 4.0 version... is the highlighted color (when you select something) green like the Touch Pro, or is it left orange they way AT&T set it?

highlighted color is green

vcooke6902 - I'll reinstall the new Slingplayer mobile on v4 and let u know if i have any issues. the old version locked up a few times for me. so i guess we have the same references :)

[NotATreoFan]

Sometimes people don't provide the first boot splash in their Roms so the last one stays in.

Sometimes we cook them in on purpose because they're cool and it will force those that don't know how to change the splash screen, to ask the question that we can then answer. (Could have almost been a House M.D Quote)


You could try to download the Raph Kitchen. Not to cook with it but to do only one thing.
Check if a rom has a splash screen included.

Just throw the Renamed DIAMIM.nhb to RUU_signed and throw it into the kitchen base rom folder.
Then press the begin batch file, Press one then enter, Press enter when it asks until it stops asking and exitst

Eventually 5 extra files should have appeared (or less if the boothscreen is missing):
00_Unknown.nb
01_SPL.nb
02_MainSplash.bmp
02_MainSplash.nb
&
OS.NB

If you have the 02_MainSplash.nb it means the cooked rom has a bootscreen attached.

If it's not there it can't be extracted from the rom.

Or am i missing something?

You can also tell when flashing from SD. The flashing prompt will show Splash and OS if a splashscreen is included.


Help me understand:
1) New ROMs by Da-G = we are trying beta copies of MS Windows Mobile with undocumented features (problems and solutions)?
Stuart

Technically, as soon as you step away from a "ship" ROM, your in the realm of beta.

Personally am partial to the current set, but they are easy to replace either way, I think the battery is a lil harder to read with this one (just installed the cab linked on the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3135370#post3135370) Either way I think would be cool, just might want to provide the location of the cab to get the old ones in case.

Agreed. The font on that will likely be difficult to read, considering where it'll be on the screen and its size.

The icons would be installed as a CAB, just like the current battery meter is. If you don't like them, simply uninstall them.

How about this icon set from Mskip?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2816185&postcount=3772

I know its for the tilt but can we use this for the fuze?

That skin is for Manila2D. It won't work with TF3D.

[ssherrill]

Thanks for all the help, everyone. I'm hoping 4.1 fixes the random problems (OR ELSE I'll have to go back to factory:eek: -- jk)

Technically, as soon as you step away from a "ship" ROM, your in the realm of beta.

NATF, thank you for all you're doing. I knew that this was all "beta." What I meant was I thought you cooks were using stable proven copies of Windows Mobile and tweaking features and customising programs, etc. It slowly dawned on me that you are getting unproven copies of Windows Mobile. It's the "Old Man" fear in me.

Anyway, I'm going to try hard resetting 4.0 and make sure I'm not introducing any problems by restoring Sprite backups from earlier ROMs.

[ssherrill]

P.S. How would I backup the special contacts on the people tab and the Speed Dial #s?

[jank0023]

When I flash a new ROM why would this not have been erased though. My phone is splashing NATFs and then splashes RRE which is the current ROM I have installed. I dont think your post fixes my issue


Disregard I hadn't seen NATF's response yet.

NATF or anyone else..do you have a null splash screen. I just want it to be what it would be without that intial splash. I've tried reverting to stockSPL but still have the NATF screen...anyone able to provide me the original file or a file I can put in to eliminate that splash screen?

Nothing personal NATF...I've been bouncing back and forth between your ROMs and the RRE ones. Thanks again.

[oaa8]

Does any one have any problems with the screen switching back to portrait mode when the keyboard is opened?

I have also noticed this and do not know why.

Edit: Actually no. I read your post wrong. I have a problem with it switching back to the home screen.

[NotATreoFan]

NATF or anyone else..do you have a null splash screen. I just want it to be what it would be without that intial splash. I've tried reverting to stockSPL but still have the NATF screen...anyone able to provide me the original file or a file I can put in to eliminate that splash screen?

Nothing personal NATF...I've been bouncing back and forth between your ROMs and the RRE ones. Thanks again.

Check the link I gave you. It's in there. :)

[ryan6603]

NATF or anyone else..do you have a null splash screen. I just want it to be what it would be without that intial splash. I've tried reverting to stockSPL but still have the NATF screen...anyone able to provide me the original file or a file I can put in to eliminate that splash screen?

Nothing personal NATF...I've been bouncing back and forth between your ROMs and the RRE ones. Thanks again.

while waiting a reply, don't know if it's included with stock rom, but flash that if you already went to stock. then go back flashing again after reload of spl

[NotATreoFan]

New thread...

When I release v4.1, I'm going to create a new thread for it, and move all the posts related to v4.0 to the new thread also.

[dlweston]

Or perhaps you missed this :)



To which Captain_Throwback responded:



So yes, Captain_Throwback says XP SP3, but he is directly referencing the post by dlweston who states Exch 2003 SP3.

As I said, I could not remember the exact patch or SP needed for Exchange 2003. I just know a guy at work could not get his going until he convinced the Exchange people to applied some update. I personally do not like using the feature. I have been offered a Blackberry, a Treo and several other "toys". They do not require anybody to carry one, but if you take one, they expect you to respond to emails you receive all evening and on weekends. That is the reason I will not take the "toy" or get my Fuze using Exchange until they require me to do it.

[reluttr]

I have encountered a bug

When I go into the phone application I can see the charging/battery icon on the bar where you see the dialed number.

[NotATreoFan]

I have encountered a bug

When I go into the phone application I can see the charging/battery icon on the bar where you see the dialed number.

This is not a bug. Windows Mobile has always behaved this way.

[AvengerBB]

New thread...

When I release v4.1, I'm going to create a new thread for it, and move all the posts related to v4.0 to the new thread also.

I thought we were going for a record! :)

Any timeline you wish to share?

[garyfunk]

I thought we were going for a record! :)

Any timeline you wish to share?
What kind of record are you wanting to go for?

[Superguy]

Here's some links on how to fix it.

http://www.amset.info/exchange/mobile-85010014.asp
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=817379
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=146952

Of course, be sure you work in your company's IT department and/or have permission to do this, or do it on your own personal server.

In its infinte wisdom, Outlook Mobile has issues if SSL is required for connection and forms based authentication (i.e. web page) is used. One of the pages explains that Activesync makes some internal calls that SSL supposedly screws up.

The last link discusses that the connection needs to be created on the PDA itself.

Generally, the fix involves either using a front end server to connect or having to redo the website in IIS and modifying the registry. It doesn't look fun and looks a bit time consuming. I'll have some time tonight to try it.

I haven't tried any of these, so if anyone is able to do it before I get a chance to, please report your experience!

On another note, don't know if it's been reported or not, but alarms were having issues this morning. I would try to turn it on with the time and date set, but when I hit ok, it wouldn't actually turn on the alarm despite it being checked. Soft reset took care of it.

Super

Well, the fix I posted here worked fine. Syncing over SSL. Only had one issue and that was with SSL certificate pointing to my domain instead of the server. It didn't like that. Changed the certificate and I'm good to go.

Thought it would have taken awhile, but I did it in under 10 minutes.

Super

[Red5]

Im wondering, is there an older version where the orange theme is still active and not overwritten by the green theme? Even though it may be older/outdated, Im sure its better than the stock AT&T rom.

[AvengerBB]

Im wondering, is there an older version where the orange theme is still active and not overwritten by the green theme? Even though it may be older/outdated, Im sure its better than the stock AT&T rom.

Check the mirror link in the first couple posts. Series 1 and 2 had the AT&T Theme.

[dlweston]

I'm having an issue using iGO 8.0.0.x with 4.0 where the app starts, but as soon as I press a button, the phone resets. I've seen others report similar issues with WMP, so I'm thinking its probably ROM-related. Just thought I'd note my issue. Hopefully 4.1 will fix everything!

Also, HTC Music Player seems to be having trouble finding all of the music on my Storage Card. Windows Media Player and CorePlayer can see and play it fine. Anyone else having similar issues?

EDIT: I stand corrected. It finally found all my music. I guess all it needed was time.

I use OCN8 which is basically iGO8 and it has worked fine for me since I added

[device]
sdcard_dsk_num=7

to sys.txt. I had the same issue with the 3.2 ROM, but other people did not see it until version 4.0.

[dlweston]

Nice icons! Anyone object to including these in the ROM?



If they are easy to change, then I prefer you stay with the stock icons. I like a pretty basic ROM that I can tune to my liking instead one that has tons of changes to try and satisfy the picky users.

[dlweston]

Since we are all talking about adding stuff, what do people think about having 'slide to answer' in the ROM, if it is possible...

http://www.ppcmobility.com/forums/showthread.php?t=390

Try it out, but my butt and wallet have answered way to many calls, and I like this application. :p

I definately do not want S2U2 to be part of the ROM. If I wanted an iPhone, I would have bought one. I also like to have available memory. S2U2 uses 4 Mb of RAM. I use TouchLockPro which only uses 33 Kb of RAM.

[reluttr]

Glad to hear the battery thing isnt a error, btw for some reason my volume rocker DOES adjust the volume. So I am not affected by the volum bug you mentioned.

Just in case you wish to know, I went strate from a at&t rom to NATF 4.0 and I hard reset on the first touch calibration screen "as noted on the rom install guide".

Btw does anyone know how to get the call curtain plugin to work without any issues? When I make a call a grey bar is placed in the corner of the screen and it bugs me so.

This is the call curtain plug in btw
http://www.fuzemobility.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/slide-curtain.jpg

[josbald1975]

P.S. How would I backup the special contacts on the people tab and the Speed Dial #s?

copy "pim.vol" from the root folder "My Device" between flashes and you'll keep all your contacts you had on your phone, and those setup in TF3D with pics. Make sure your photos & ringtones are restored to the same place as originally set and it should all work just fine.

[josbald1975]

I definately do not want S2U2 to be part of the ROM. If I wanted an iPhone, I would have bought one. I also like to have available memory. S2U2 uses 4 Mb of RAM. I use TouchLockPro which only uses 33 Kb of RAM.

this isn't a suggestion for S2U2, rather for the Touch HD version of answering calls.

[josbald1975]

[QUOTE reluttr: Btw does anyone know how to get the call curtain plugin to work without any issues? When I make a call a grey bar is placed in the corner of the screen and it bugs me so. QUOTE]

the curtain is there to prevent your cheek from making any random selections for you. just slide it down to get rid of it. there isn't a version made right now without the curtain

[Red5]

Check the mirror link in the first couple posts. Series 1 and 2 had the AT&T Theme.Thanks. I need a better rom than AT&T but I like the light gray and orange theme then tweaked with Matt's FuzeBerry... and I know that lately NATF has been using the black and green theme from the Touch Pro. Thanks again!

[rareness4]

I use OCN8 which is basically iGO8 and it has worked fine for me since I added

[device]
sdcard_dsk_num=7

to sys.txt. I had the same issue with the 3.2 ROM, but other people did not see it until version 4.0.

I already have this in the sys.txt file and it still resets when I enter a navigation point or POI destination. Mind sharing your sys.txt file to see if I'm missing anything? If not it's cool too. Thanks.

[Lostwarriorram]

The icons would be installed as a CAB, just like the current battery meter is. If you don't like them, simply uninstall them.


Thanks for considering the ICON package. Please dont forget to include Remote Desktop on V4.1

[htcfan78]

NATF,
Is there a reason that TF3D Config will not work with v4? I have used it with your other ROMs with no problems. Without TF3D config, is there a way to hide unwanted tabs from TouchFlo?

Thanks

[josbald1975]

NATF,
Is there a reason that TF3D Config will not work with v4? I have used it with your other ROMs with no problems. Without TF3D config, is there a way to hide unwanted tabs from TouchFlo?

Thanks

use Advanced Config - found in the Tools folder - and goto Menu > More Settings > TouchFLO 3D - to see the TF3D tabs which you can enable/disable

[rareness4]

NATF,
Is there a reason that TF3D Config will not work with v4? I have used it with your other ROMs with no problems. Without TF3D config, is there a way to hide unwanted tabs from TouchFlo?

Thanks

there's already a file that's been posted here called "diamondtf3dconfig[1].cab" just click the paperclip next to this thread title on the ROM development main page

[ssherrill]

New thread...

When I release v4.1, I'm going to create a new thread for it, and move all the posts related to v4.0 to the new thread also.

Hallelujah!

[ssherrill]

I use OCN8 which is basically iGO8 and it has worked fine for me since I added

[device]
sdcard_dsk_num=7

to sys.txt. I had the same issue with the 3.2 ROM, but other people did not see it until version 4.0.

No, it's different than that. I had to add the [device] entry as well to get the app to run in the first place. Then I used it successfully under factory ROM and NATF 3.2. However, under 4.0 the app will run for awhile then crash sporadically (I finally had to quit searching for a funeral home POI last night after my 5th crash). I just typed in the address, drove to the funeral home, and OCN8 crashed again when I got in the parking lot.

See what happens when you search for a POI (instead of address) and let us know how that goes. Thanks.

Stuart

[ssherrill]

copy "pim.vol" from the root folder "My Device" between flashes and you'll keep all your contacts you had on your phone, and those setup in TF3D with pics. Make sure your photos & ringtones are restored to the same place as originally set and it should all work just fine.

Awesome! Much thanks. Does this work for Speed Dials as well, or is there a separate file for that. Guess I'll soon find out!

Stuart

[nitroblu]

Is anyone having any GPS connect issues using 4.0?

[kennyb123]

Is anyone having any GPS connect issues using 4.0?

I'm waiting for at least 4.1 before I flash, but the general consensus from everyone has been that the GPS is lightning fast with 4.0.


On another note, if you guys want a little volume boost out of your phone speaker, this link has your cab in it. Don't choose the 2nd cab unless you want to blow the tiny speaker out. The "Audio_Lighter_Boost.cab" is absolutely perfect - now I hear my txt and ring notifications much better. It does help to choose sounds that are higher pitched vs. lower pitched, as the tiny speaker can handle higher pitches better at a louder volume.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3122558&postcount=6

[rddcarlos]

Nice icons! Anyone object to including these in the ROM?

Nop those icons are hott!!... if some1 dosent like them they can just uninstall right???

[XGear]

I mentioned this before... I don't mean to be a bother... Definately not a priority; From the Fuze's original photo collection, does anyone have the photo with the white flower on fire?

Thx,
James

[ssherrill]

I mentioned this before... I don't mean to be a bother... Definately not a priority; From the Fuze's original photo collection, does anyone have the photo with the white flower on fire?

Thx,
James

Yes, pm me or something. I'll send it to you.

[LethalCorpse]

Any way to back up call history before flashing? I figured out the SMS backup last flash, but lost the calls. Pretty sure that's all I was missing

[Superguy]

Any way to back up call history before flashing? I figured out the SMS backup last flash, but lost the calls. Pretty sure that's all I was missing

Use PPCPIMBackup. Works great.

[ryan6603]

i have seen a small issue. This has happened with previous v3. When i have the phone plugged into USB to PC i turn off the phone (sleep). I have the power saving rules set up to turn off back light after 1 minute when plugged in to pc, and then 2 minutes to turn off screen and sleep. without fail every morning (only time i really have it plugged to PC) when i come to check on the phone it is on and dimley lit up.

Not a big deal except it's just using more life of the screen and unneeded. does anybody else have this problem?

[metal450]

Is anyone having any GPS connect issues using 4.0?

I've been struggling immensely to get a GPS fix, tired it with radio .32 and .28. aGPS is always off since I'm overseas and don't have a data connection ATM.

For those of you who are getting quick fixes, I'd be interested to hear of your setup - i.e. which radio are you using, are you assisting with QuickGPS/SeaSGEE, etc?

Thanx in advance! :)

[ruffer]

Not a big deal except it's just using more life of the screen and unneeded. does anybody else have this problem?

I have the same behaviour on my stock rom.

[mtlcafan79]

Flashed from stock AT&T to 4.0. Works great so far. I can't believe how crappy the stock rom really was compared to this. I was having all sorts of little issues that seem to be working fine now.

[Noonski]

I've been struggling immensely to get a GPS fix, tired it with radio .32 and .28. aGPS is always off since I'm overseas and don't have a data connection ATM.

For those of you who are getting quick fixes, I'd be interested to hear of your setup - i.e. which radio are you using, are you assisting with QuickGPS/SeaSGEE, etc?

Thanx in advance! :)

Also just tested GPS and got a quick fix.

I nowadays go into HTC GPS tools first and open the port.
Leave HTC GPS tools open and then start my Nav Soft.

It's worth trying out. But it works for me.

[DaveShaw]

Also just tested GPS and got a quick fix.

I nowadays go into HTC GPS tools first and open the port.
Leave HTC GPS tools open and then start my Nav Soft.

It's worth trying out. But it works for me.

Or you could try... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468249

Ta
Dave

[NotATreoFan]

Thanks for considering the ICON package. Please dont forget to include Remote Desktop on V4.1

Nop those icons are hott!!... if some1 dosent like them they can just uninstall right???

I tried just about every CAB file available there last night... so many I had to hard reset my phone to get it working right again... and none of the CABs made the icons look like those pictured.

Unless something get finalized tonight, and works with a single CAB install, they will not be in v4.1.

i have seen a small issue. This has happened with previous v3. When i have the phone plugged into USB to PC i turn off the phone (sleep). I have the power saving rules set up to turn off back light after 1 minute when plugged in to pc, and then 2 minutes to turn off screen and sleep. without fail every morning (only time i really have it plugged to PC) when i come to check on the phone it is on and dimley lit up.

Not a big deal except it's just using more life of the screen and unneeded. does anybody else have this problem?

The only was I've been about to get the phone to turn off automatically, and stay off, was to set the timeout to 30 minutes. The screen still dims after 30 seconds, but waits 30 minutes to actually turn off.

I've been struggling immensely to get a GPS fix, tired it with radio .32 and .28. aGPS is always off since I'm overseas and don't have a data connection ATM.

For those of you who are getting quick fixes, I'd be interested to hear of your setup - i.e. which radio are you using, are you assisting with QuickGPS/SeaSGEE, etc?

Thanx in advance! :)

I always run QuickGPS before launching iNav, but other then that, I let iNav open the GPS port all by itself.

Or you could try... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468249

Ta
Dave

YOU DON'T HAVE A TOUCH PRO! GET OUT OF MY THREAD!! :eek: ;) :p

[afterburn]

Did you try this one? (sdkcerts required)

[DaveShaw]

DON'T HAVE A TOUCH PRO! GET OUT OF MY THREAD!! ;) :p

I know, I know, but I felt left behind by you guys :p
New phone time isn't until May :(

Dave

[rddcarlos]

dont know if these issues where fixed or but

1. cant get data to connect through com. manager (it says it dosent exist)

2. the volume icon on top bar dosent change at all its always on (normal) even when i put it on slient...

EVERYTHING else is working great even got gps fix under 1min:D

on side note has any1 gotten diamond tf3d config to work on v4.0 ??

Looking forward to v4.1;)

[NotATreoFan]

I know, I know, but I felt left behind by you guys :p
New phone time isn't until May :(

Dave

Technically, I'm not eligible for an upgrade until April 2009. But until my dad finds out I burned his upgrade, I don't have to "pay" any penalties for early upgrade. :o

[7boo]

Great ROM but im NOT gonna flash till the SMS bug is fixed that is a must

[ssherrill]

Anyway, I'm going to try hard resetting 4.0 and make sure I'm not introducing any problems by restoring Sprite backups from earlier ROMs.

OCN8 still crashing. WMP crashed once, stuttered once after rebooting, but right now (knock on wood), it's been playing for about 8 minutes

[rshiggs]

I also would like to see Remote Desktop get put back in. i don't use it every day but the times I have were really useful. Thank you so much for your hard work, and I really have been enjoying the ROM as it gets better through each revision

[Captain_Throwback]

OCN8 still crashing. WMP crashed once, stuttered once after rebooting, but right now (knock on wood), it's been playing for about 8 minutes

iGO is still crashing for me as well. I got further than I had by preventing it from importing my Outlook contacts, but it reset my phone when I hit the Menu button (I had had been navigating for about 5 minutes). I haven't used WMP to play anything yet, and I also haven't tried streaming BT audio yet (for which I use the HTC Music Player). I know some people had reported issues with that; I should see if it works for me.

[metal450]

I always run QuickGPS before launching iNav, but other then that, I let iNav open the GPS port all by itself.


Is there a QuickGPS cab available somewhere? I'm using the Lite rom, and it seems to've been ripped - I searched around and found 2 or 3 cabs elsewhere, but none of them seem to be working properly...

[Captain_Throwback]

Did you try this one? (sdkcerts required)

Those aren't the same ones either.

[martyramos]

[QUOTE reluttr: Btw does anyone know how to get the call curtain plugin to work without any issues? When I make a call a grey bar is placed in the corner of the screen and it bugs me so. QUOTE]

the curtain is there to prevent your cheek from making any random selections for you. just slide it down to get rid of it. there isn't a version made right now without the curtain

I've disabled the curtain on SlideToAnswer (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466519) via a registry entry change. Set HKLM/Software/HTC/PHONE/PhoneLockEnable=0.

[kahibbi]

OCN8 still crashing. WMP crashed once, stuttered once after rebooting, but right now (knock on wood), it's been playing for about 8 minutes

Just tested WMP and it stopped playing and exited after about 10 seconds. Co-Pilot navigation freezing. Both used to work fine before V3.

[xcsdm]

Technically, I'm not eligible for an upgrade until April 2009. But until my dad finds out I burned his upgrade, I don't have to "pay" any penalties for early upgrade. :o

Exactly. I keep 4 phones on my account. They are setup to expire between every 3 to 6 months. So, I pretty much have an upgrade available whenever I want one.

Luckily for me, my wife and parents don't want a new phone until theirs is dead or useless.

XC

[NotATreoFan]

Exactly. I keep 4 phones on my account. They are setup to expire between every 3 to 6 months. So, I pretty much have an upgrade available whenever I want one.

Luckily for me, my wife and parents don't want a new phone until theirs is dead or useless.

XC

I've been on my own account for about 5 years now, but I still have admin privileges on his, so... :)

[HTCFAN0923]

I also am having issues with WMP that I didn't have with v2.3 and v3.2 . It freezes completely or shuts off after 8 seconds.



EDIT: TouchFlo 3D Config does not load. I have Diamond tweak installed as well.

[silvertorch]

Had my first real issue with 4.0 last night. While RSS Hub was updating all of my feeds, I went to the Weather tab and then the phone soft reset its self.

No clue what happened.

Besides that the ROM is quick, GPS is quick as well, and it has been rock solid.

[dyereve01]

i'm having serious memory issues with the V4 standard rom. the memory usage percentages continually rise, even after closing all programs, freeing up ram using sktools (actually using the free up ram tool takes up more ram...), and opera seems to have a memory leak but i'm pretty sure that is fairly well known by now. also have issues with quickmenu launching programs or settings or any window. seems to have a glitch with the sound, took me 15 minutes of continually increasing the volume before it stopped putting itself back on silent. SMS's occasionally wont mark as read when viewing them, also will occasionally not go to the threaded style. tends to lag alot when pulling out the keyboard but that is probably just related to the memory issues. i miss some calls because it doesnt notify me untill they hang up. I'm using the ATT version of this phone (Fuze) however i do not use att as my carrier which is why i wanted to change the rom. this was my first time flashing a rom but i read all the "noob" guides and it seemed to work fine. did i miss something/get the wrong rom or are there just more bugs??

also, i did not flash the radio. the one that came with it seems to work fine. these issues would be related to that would it?

[ryan6603]

this has been the first real day testing everything out. here is three items im seeing. please let me know if anybody else can duplicate.
1. when in album viewer, when i select pics on sd system freezes and then after lil bit touchflo reboots. another time it freezed i had to soft reset. can duplicate everytime.
2.as posted b4 i hqad no probs using wmp with usb plug and mini stereo to car. today i was listening to music through speaker on phone and i has moments where sys would freeze for seconds at time. never reset though. high bit songs had more pauses. soft reset and still.
3. had opera on natf xda thread. was not showing log in so switched to ie. natf pulled up and started to enter un. got one character and decided to open in ls view. system bogged down to crawl. acted lick cpu was pegged out. had to soft reset as everthing was too slow to wait on exit so soft reset. have not tried to duplicate as i wanted to write this first and may not be able to get back on today and wanted to post b4 4.1

[garyfunk]

Just for the heck of it, I'm having great results with 4.0.

[silvertorch]

this has been the first real day testing everything out. here is three items im seeing. please let me know if anybody else can duplicate.
1. when in album viewer, when i select pics on sd system freezes and then after lil bit touchflo reboots. another time it freezed i had to soft reset. can duplicate everytime.

Tested this out and I had no issues. Album Viewer got hung up for a bit, but that because it was scanning my SD card, after that I have been flying through photos on my SD card.

[ATX_longhorn]

SO I've been running NATF v4 since the night it was released and am pleased to say it is very stable. It was a bit laggy at first, but after an hour that cleared up.

The only odd thing I am experiencing is when texting. I read the message through TF3D and hit reply. I then slide it open to use the keyboard, but when I do, the reply screen rotates to landscape for a split second then reverts to landscape home, from which I have to hit 'messages' and then select which conversation, only then can I reply. and just yesterday, it was going to the phone app ion landscape instead of home, but now it's back to reverting to the home screen. It's not a killer for me because this version has so much more positives, but weird nonetheless.

Anyone experiencing related issues?

[silvertorch]

The only odd thing I am experiencing is when texting. I read the message through TF3D and hit reply. I then slide it open to use the keyboard, but when I do, the reply screen rotates to landscape for a split second then reverts to landscape home, from which I have to hit 'messages' and then select which conversation, only then can I reply.

I have had this happen too. I don't think its NATF, i think its TF3D because when I wait an extra second or 2 after hitting reply and then slide the keyboard open it stays in the message reply screen.

[Red5]

For any of you early flashes of this ROM, was version 2.2 better, or 2.3? I like the fact that 2.3 has the better GPS drivers and it should like battery performance was better... but there were also a lot of complints due to the 'newer' build of 6.1.

Just wanting your humble opinion out of the two. Thanks.

[ATX_longhorn]

damn, I tried waiting a few seconds and a few minutes (just to test) and it still goes to the landscape home screen when trying to use my keyboard to reply to a text message. at first I thought it was just something to do with this particular build, but because it has switched from going to the phone app or landscape home makes me think it might have something to do with the rom and other factors related to programs or usage. still very confused about it. can anyone else chime in?

[xcsdm]

I am able use the new message icon in TF3d, Message screen loads,
I slide out keyboard, and screen rotates as expected. I am able to continue my message without issue. (both E-mail (Exchange) and SMS)

XC


damn, I tried waiting a few seconds and a few minutes (just to test) and it still goes to the landscape home screen when trying to use my keyboard to reply to a text message. at first I thought it was just something to do with this particular build, but because it has switched from going to the phone app or landscape home makes me think it might have something to do with the rom and other factors related to programs or usage. still very confused about it. can anyone else chime in?

[RedDawg22]

damn, I tried waiting a few seconds and a few minutes (just to test) and it still goes to the landscape home screen when trying to use my keyboard to reply to a text message. at first I thought it was just something to do with this particular build, but because it has switched from going to the phone app or landscape home makes me think it might have something to do with the rom and other factors related to programs or usage. still very confused about it. can anyone else chime in?

Which Taskbar are you using? When I installed massi959's, I was experiencing this problem, running NATF's 2.2 Fuze ROM. Once I removed it, everything worked again.

[Lostwarriorram]

Which Taskbar are you using? When I installed massi959's, I was experiencing this problem, running NATF's 2.2 Fuze ROM. Once I removed it, everything worked again.

This might be true. I am running tsowen's taskbar. I am struck with landscape home screen. I never had (or noticed) this problem before. I am very lazy to uninstall taskbar and test it.

FYI: I am running NATF V3.2

[Noonski]

Or you could try... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468249

Ta
Dave


I don't care that you don't have a Touch Pro, at least you don't have two iphones.

Thanks for the heads up will sure check it out.

Is there a QuickGPS cab available somewhere? I'm using the Lite rom, and it seems to've been ripped - I searched around and found 2 or 3 cabs elsewhere, but none of them seem to be working properly...

It's attached In case it wasn't in the Previous posts, still catching up.

You need to reset the device after install to get the service running.

[ATX_longhorn]

Which Taskbar are you using? When I installed massi959's, I was experiencing this problem, running NATF's 2.2 Fuze ROM. Once I removed it, everything worked again.


touche sir. I was running the Colored Top Bar WWE ST cab. I removed it and everything works like a charm. Thanks.

[ryan6603]

SO I've been running NATF v4 since the night it was released and am pleased to say it is very stable. It was a bit laggy at first, but after an hour that cleared up.

The only odd thing I am experiencing is when texting. I read the message through TF3D and hit reply. I then slide it open to use the keyboard, but when I do, the reply screen rotates to landscape for a split second then reverts to landscape home, from which I have to hit 'messages' and then select which conversation, only then can I reply. and just yesterday, it was going to the phone app ion landscape instead of home, but now it's back to reverting to the home screen. It's not a killer for me because this version has so much more positives, but weird nonetheless.

Anyone experiencing related issues?

I have experienced similar but i don't believe this is related to rom as i had this happen in stock rom and previous v's as well. It does not happen all the time. Maybe because i wait a second or 2 every now and then? I will try that now.....

ya i have tried it both ways. if you wait a sec or two its' fine. if you select message and then open it right away it's intermit. out of the 10 times i tried only once did it go to L.S home after waiting until i saw the message for a sec.

Tested this out and I had no issues. Album Viewer got hung up for a bit, but that because it was scanning my SD card, after that I have been flying through photos on my SD card.

Just tried using it again after couple of hours and ya you're right on. I should of know that too since i think i remember someone posting about indexing the SD some threads while back. Just never did that to me in the past so i discarded it. Do have quite a few 5+ gig's worth and makes perfect sense

[RedDawg22]

touche sir. I was running the Colored Top Bar WWE ST cab. I removed it and everything works like a charm. Thanks.


You're welcome. The only taskbar that I have found that doesn't cause this problem for me is tsowentaskbar4v1.1.

[Captain_Throwback]

I have this same problem (as I've already noted). It does seem to work with the newer series of iGO versions, however (8.3.2.x).

I must revise the above statement. I was using iGO 8.3.2.x without incident, but when I was on my way home yesterday, I must've done too much, because the phone reset on me. I was also playing Music with the HTC Player, and had the phone connected (via dongle) to my car cassette adapter. I was also finally able to get iGO 8.0.0.x working (at least to some degree) by adding a line to the SYS.TXT to keep it from importing my Outlook contacts. It still conked out on me while navigating though.

Almost all of my issues seem to be SD card related. My Storage Card still isn't recognized immediately by HTC Album, and even when flipping through the pictures, it appears a bit laggy (and there's been ample time for the card to be indexed). I even tried optimizing the settings with SKTools, but it seems to have had no effect. But I love the solidness of the GPS fix with this ROM! (using 1.02.25.28 radio). Its stable enough, for now, at least until I flash 4.1 . . .

Could the issue be with the SD card slot driver in this ROM? Of course, you'd think everyone's experiences would be similar then. I'm sure I have no idea what I'm talking about.

[ssherrill]

I must revise the above statement. I was using iGO 8.3.2.x without incident, but when I was on my way home yesterday, I must've done too much, because the phone reset on me. I was also playing Music with the HTC Player, and had the phone connected (via dongle) to my car cassette adapter. I was also finally able to get iGO 8.0.0.x working (at least to some degree) by adding a line to the SYS.TXT to keep it from importing my Outlook contacts. It still conked out on me while navigating though.

Almost all of my issues seem to be SD card related. My Storage Card still isn't recognized immediately by HTC Album, and even when flipping through the pictures, it appears a bit laggy (and there's been ample time for the card to be indexed). I even tried optimizing the settings with SKTools, but it seems to have had no effect. But I love the solidness of the GPS fix with this ROM! (using 1.02.25.28 radio). Its stable enough, for now, at least until I flash 4.1 . . .

Could the issue be with the SD card slot driver in this ROM? Of course, you'd think everyone's experiences would be similar then. I'm sure I have no idea what I'm talking about.

I got OCN8 on MicroSD card. How did you get an update to the program?

Thanks,
Stuart

[atsitalian]

Technically, I'm not eligible for an upgrade until April 2009. But until my dad finds out I burned his upgrade, I don't have to "pay" any penalties for early upgrade. :o

AWESOME Todd!! I did the same to my wife :rolleyes:

[pcarenthuz]

Am running NATF 4.0 ROM on my Touch Pro. The soft keyboard works fine the slider keyboard does not. Many of the keys are mapped incorrectly and no combination of CTL, SHFT ,etc seems to help.

Anyone else seeing this?

Pat

[silvertorch]

Just tried using it again after couple of hours and ya you're right on. I should of know that too since i think i remember someone posting about indexing the SD some threads while back. Just never did that to me in the past so i discarded it. Do have quite a few 5+ gig's worth and makes perfect sense

Also remember that when you connect your phone to a PC and select the Disk Drive option, that WinMo will actually dismount the SD card. Once you disconnect it from the PC, Album Viewer will have to re-index your SD card once again :(

[ryan6603]

Also remember that when you connect your phone to a PC and select the Disk Drive option, that WinMo will actually dismount the SD card. Once you disconnect it from the PC, Album Viewer will have to re-index your SD card once again :(

i thought it would only re-index if size changed or volume name changed? that's interesting.

[Captain_Throwback]

i thought it would only re-index if size changed or volume name changed? that's interesting.

That is news. Even so, on the previous builds, it never seemed to cause a problem.

[nableezy]

Am running NATF 4.0 ROM on my Touch Pro. The soft keyboard works fine the slider keyboard does not. Many of the keys are mapped incorrectly and no combination of CTL, SHFT ,etc seems to help.

Anyone else seeing this?

Pat

you installed the fuze version where you should have installed the touchpro version. It is just a registry change though, dont remember exactly where, search should help remap the keys correctly.

[dyereve01]

Am running NATF 4.0 ROM on my Touch Pro. The soft keyboard works fine the slider keyboard does not. Many of the keys are mapped incorrectly and no combination of CTL, SHFT ,etc seems to help.

Anyone else seeing this?

Pat

haha. yeah i have to do this every time i flash. open total commander, click on plugin\\ in the root then follow the path registry\hklm\hardware\devicemap\keybd click add value, select dword and change the name to CWSLayout and then make the value 1 instead of 0. when done, soft reset.

[jtsurfs]

Actually I have seen this. With the last couple of times I have flashed, my phone initially did not seem to have the correct keyboard mapping. I soft-reset and everything works correctly again. I think it might have to do with not doing the hard reset at the screen positioning screen.

[ryan6603]

The only was I've been about to get the phone to turn off automatically, and stay off, was to set the timeout to 30 minutes. The screen still dims after 30 seconds, but waits 30 minutes to actually turn off.


how about NOT automatically. i hit the power button and turn it off manually. Still will be on the next morn.

I do remember my phone turned on today sitting on a desk. Some alert.

[rareness4]

Has anyone else have trouble using Viigo? When I start the program, an error comes up. Not sure if it's a ROM issue or what.

[shep211]

Does any one have cv videos and mobitv working on this rom?

[pcarenthuz]

haha. yeah i have to do this every time i flash. open total commander, click on plugin\\ in the root then follow the path registry\hklm\hardware\devicemap\keybd click add value, select dword and change the name to CWSLayout and then make the value 1 instead of 0. when done, soft reset.


Perfect, thank you. That did the trick.

[reluttr]

Is it me or is the communication manager images messed up?

[jtsurfs]

Is it me or is the communication manager images messed up?

Must be a bad flash. Mine looks fine.

[silvertorch]

Is it me or is the communication manager images messed up?

I think it looks fine.

Although the skin is a bit different. (Just noticed that)

[reluttr]

on mine the images are blurry, Im not sure how to fix them. I would much rather have teh default ones XD

[Captain_Throwback]

I think it looks fine.

Although the skin is a bit different. (Just noticed that)

It does seem a bit . . . squished. Was this Comm Manager taken from a Blackstone, perhaps?

[reluttr]

I wonder if NATF will fix it in 4.1

[Noonski]

It does seem a bit . . . squished. Was this Comm Manager taken from a Blackstone, perhaps?

They look more like Upscaled then Squished and HD Commanager would probably be cut of a bit in the bottom part.

Attached Diamondish Icons, Copy over to Windows with Total Commander.

[metal450]

But I love the solidness of the GPS fix with this ROM! (using 1.02.25.28 radio).

Is this with or without installing the "Revert to default GPS settings" cab from post #4?

[juanikiki]

I use SPB Time (http://beta.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/time/) but it costs $$$ after the trial expires...
:) Thank you very much!!

[reluttr]

They look more like Upscaled then Squished and HD Commanager would probably be cut of a bit in the bottom part.

Attached Diamondish Icons, Copy over to Windows with Total Commander.
Thank you that fixed it :D

Hopefully NATF will include this fix in the next release :P

[metal450]

It's attached In case it wasn't in the Previous posts, still catching up.

Awesome - just what I've been looking for - thanks a million!

[shep211]

Any fix for htc streaming media with cv videos? Get file re-entry not allowed when trying to view videos.

[Captain_Throwback]

Is this with or without installing the "Revert to default GPS settings" cab from post #4?

I didn't have to install anything. Just flashed, and the speed/fix is phenomenal.

[gnice18]

[QUOTE=Captain_Throwback;3140240]I must revise the above statement. I was using iGO 8.3.2.x without incident, but when I was on my way home yesterday, I must've done too much, because the phone reset on me. I was also playing Music with the HTC Player, and had the phone connected (via dongle) to my car cassette adapter. I was also finally able to get iGO 8.0.0.x working (at least to some degree) by adding a line to the SYS.TXT to keep it from importing my Outlook contacts. It still conked out on me while navigating though.

Almost all of my issues seem to be SD card related. My Storage Card still isn't recognized immediately by HTC Album, and even when flipping through the pictures, it appears a bit laggy (and there's been ample time for the card to be indexed). I even tried optimizing the settings with SKTools, but it seems to have had no effect. But I love the solidness of the GPS fix with this ROM! (using 1.02.25.28 radio). Its stable enough, for now, at least until I flash 4.1 . . .

Could the issue be with the SD card slot driver in this ROM? Of course, you'd think everyone's experiences would be similar then. I'm sure I have no idea what I'm talking about.[/QUOTE


This is what I have been suspecting. My main problems are the windows media player soft reset when reading off the card and Garmin XT freezing and sometimes not seeing the card. Many iterations of this problem caused my drive from cape cod to staten island today to be very unpleasant, as i had to keep soft resetting, take out of dash mount, take off case, remove battery cover, reinsert sd card otherwise phone wouldn't recognize than put it all back together at highway speed, then have to renter address info. What a pain. Have gotten by without media player by using Mortplayer. All my problems stem from SD card related items.

[dlweston]

I already have this in the sys.txt file and it still resets when I enter a navigation point or POI destination. Mind sharing your sys.txt file to see if I'm missing anything? If not it's cool too. Thanks.

It is the original sys.txt with only that single addition, but here it is. Oh and I forgot, after your post I was concerned, so I used OCN8 on the way to work today and it worked fine.

[datima]

Must say NATF's 4.0 does seem solid except things read from the card. Movies, music and some programs that are loaded on the card just don't react like they should. Movies will cause a reboot of the system in a very short while. Did not have this problem with 3.2 but 4 did fix other problems. Loading things on the main will fix the problem for the time being. Hoping 4.1 addresses this issue.

[dlweston]

I mentioned this before... I don't mean to be a bother... Definately not a priority; From the Fuze's original photo collection, does anyone have the photo with the white flower on fire?

Thx,
James

Here you go.

[dlweston]

i have seen a small issue. This has happened with previous v3. When i have the phone plugged into USB to PC i turn off the phone (sleep). I have the power saving rules set up to turn off back light after 1 minute when plugged in to pc, and then 2 minutes to turn off screen and sleep. without fail every morning (only time i really have it plugged to PC) when i come to check on the phone it is on and dimley lit up.

Not a big deal except it's just using more life of the screen and unneeded. does anybody else have this problem?

I noticed this last night when I charged via the wall charger. I normally charge via USB and it does not do it when connected via USB, so I thought that might be normal. Does yours only do it via the wall changer and not when charging via USB?

[reluttr]

is there supposed to be a charging/battery status icon IN the dialer bar? "I mean the bar where the dialed numbers are displayed in the phone appliocation"

[Lostwarriorram]

is there supposed to be a charging/battery status icon IN the dialer bar? "I mean the bar where the dialed numbers are displayed in the phone appliocation"

Yep. Its absolutely normal.

[Enrique00]

Hello,

I flashed v4, and I absolutely love it! Love the vibra touch settings, as well as the new File Explorer.

Quick question - I have my Long Press End Key set to switch between Vibrate/Ringer. But when I hold the End Key down, the icon stays the same as if the volume is on, but the phone vibrates.

Before, it would vibrate if I was changing from Ringer to Vibrate. If I did the opposite, it wouldnt vibrate.

I tried reflashing twice, so would it be a registry setting?

Any ideas???

[reluttr]

Yep. Its absolutely normal.
kk thanks for clearing that up, I just havent noticed it before and it looked a tad out of place XD

[californiarailroader]

NATF, I just installed your 4.0 Fuze Standard ROM on my Fuze, and all I can say is WOW! My Fuze is flying like nobody's business, the GPS is so fast I almost cried and I have more free storage room than an out of business server farm lol I have installed a lot of ROM's over the years, but none have been as trouble free from the get go as this one, thanks again for the hard work and the awesome job on these ROM's! You have put a lot of hard work and time into this I can tell, this thing is so tweaked and full featured I hardly had to add or do anything to it! Oh, be sure to check your PayPal, a little New Year's present is on it's way :D

[NotATreoFan]

how about NOT automatically. i hit the power button and turn it off manually. Still will be on the next morn.

I do remember my phone turned on today sitting on a desk. Some alert.

I charge my phone by USB every night, and it never turns on... no matter how it shuts off.

It does seem a bit . . . squished. Was this Comm Manager taken from a Blackstone, perhaps?

They look more like Upscaled then Squished and HD Commanager would probably be cut of a bit in the bottom part.

Attached Diamondish Icons, Copy over to Windows with Total Commander.

I don't see anything weird with the Comm Manager icons... :confused:

Hello,

I flashed v4, and I absolutely love it! Love the vibra touch settings, as well as the new File Explorer.

Quick question - I have my Long Press End Key set to switch between Vibrate/Ringer. But when I hold the End Key down, the icon stays the same as if the volume is on, but the phone vibrates.

Before, it would vibrate if I was changing from Ringer to Vibrate. If I did the opposite, it wouldnt vibrate.

I tried reflashing twice, so would it be a registry setting?

Any ideas???

Known issue with this build. No fix yet.

[rareness4]

It is the original sys.txt with only that single addition, but here it is. Oh and I forgot, after your post I was concerned, so I used OCN8 on the way to work today and it worked fine.

Unfortunately it still resets. Thanks for your help.

[reluttr]

I charge my phone by USB every night, and it never turns on... no matter how it shuts off.





I don't see anything weird with the Comm Manager icons... :confused:



Known issue with this build. No fix yet.
On the full Fuze version in the Communication manager it uses non default icons that are pixlized.

The Zip Noonski attached fixed it for me :P

[tadevinney]

was NATF still shooting for a 4.1 release tonight? didnt know if i missed something.

[reluttr]

I havent seen 4.1 yet, but he hasnt said anything stating there wont be a release.

[ajaholic]

im not a big fan of the vibrate on touch, can you make it so its uninstallable. also i was wondering if u updated any gps drivers or anything related for this release, with 3.2 it would take me atleast a couple of minutes to get a lock on satellites but with 4.0 i get it almost instantly. huge difference.

[htcfan78]

im not a big fan of the vibrate on touch, can you make it so its uninstallable. also i was wondering if u updated any gps drivers or anything related for this release, with 3.2 it would take me atleast a couple of minutes to get a lock on satellites but with 4.0 i get it almost instantly. huge difference.

Go to Start -> Settings -> Touch Response Settings, and un-check "Enabled" at the top.

[californiarailroader]

I havent seen 4.1 yet, but he hasnt said anything stating there wont be a release.

Well, it's 11:46 PM in PA, so I would bet it will be tomorrow sometime now.

[metal450]

also i was wondering if u updated any gps drivers or anything related for this release, with 3.2 it would take me atleast a couple of minutes to get a lock on satellites but with 4.0 i get it almost instantly. huge difference.

I wish I knew why I was having so much difficulty with GPS - since I'm currently backpacking around Asia, it would be just about the most useful feature the phone could offer, yet I've been utterly unable to get a lock no matter what I do (had it on for 3omin+ while walking around outside). Are you using QuickGPS too? Which radio? What software are you locking with?

[NotATreoFan]

I'm still working out some kinks, so tomorrow night is a good bet. I'm going to release a pre-4.1 (in true Da_G style) tomorrow morning, so I would appreciate it everyone who had issues with 4.0 gave it a try.

NOTE: This version is not final, and will change.

[moto2000]

I'm still working out some kinks, so tomorrow night is a good bet. I'm going to release a pre-4.1 (in true Da_G style) tomorrow morning, so I would appreciate it everyone who had issues with 4.0 gave it a try.

NOTE: This version is not final, and will change.

NATF, why not just ask people to PM you to become beta testers like dutty used to do? Scout out beta testers that you can trust and rely on, that way, before you release a version, you will have most common kinks worked out?

[cp1md2b]

NATF I will try out the prerelease for you. I'm going to bed now but will rise around 0630 central time. If available I will download and flash then.

[rddcarlos]

Same here i can be more than willing to test ur rom :D just let me know when.... ;)

[ryan6603]

gooooOOOOO GATORS!

had another round of testing and before i go pass out; tried showing off new son again stored on SD in Album view.
1st i notice i have to choose "all" (majority of time and will happen soft reset and while closing and opening album). then i have to choose album again before i see storage card option. this time browsing one of the of the folders for pics under storage card option i started browsing the thumbnails, quick browsing this time no lag except thumbnail refresh. choose picture to make full screen. don't know if it happened at this time or when i tilted screen since pic was taken in this format to expand full screen but it froze. It actually rebooted the phone this time after about 15-20sec of it stalling.

[RBOWEN31]

hey im a noob and i realize this may seem stupid but i cannot figure out how to flash this file because it downloads as an .rar and i know i need a .nbh to flash what should i do any advice is appreciated thanks

[martyramos]

hey im a noob and i realize this may seem stupid but i cannot figure out how to flash this file because it downloads as an .rar and i know i need a .nbh to flash what should i do any advice is appreciated thanks
Yikes...download WinRAR (http://winrar.d0wnloadz.net/) or some similar software to unpackage modules first.

[rddcarlos]

hey im a noob and i realize this may seem stupid but i cannot figure out how to flash this file because it downloads as an .rar and i know i need a .nbh to flash what should i do any advice is appreciated thanks

well to make it as simple as possible u need to do 2 things and of course MAKE SURE you have GSM touch pro/Fuze... dont want you to brick on ur 1st try.... :eek: ;)

1. download and flash Hardspl for Raphael you MUST do this 1st!!!!!

you can get more info on this here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Raphael_HardSPL

2. intsall NATFv4.0 rom or whatever rom you want follow instructions and enjoy....:D try and read as much as possible 1st before doing anything trust me it helps a LOT....

[JoeTheFro]

I'm still working out some kinks, so tomorrow night is a good bet. I'm going to release a pre-4.1 (in true Da_G style) tomorrow morning, so I would appreciate it everyone who had issues with 4.0 gave it a try.

NOTE: This version is not final, and will change.

Dont matter... i will flash anything new and shiny made by NaTF....

[nableezy]

Dont matter... i will flash anything new and shiny made by NaTF....
word up, you could say ahead of time 'this will likely brick your phone' and Id still try it if it has NATF in the file name.

[moto2000]

can somebody please provide the cab for the full version of Music ID...I dont have my external HD w/ me and I had the cab file in it....I know that NATF packages it in his roms and i would greatly appreciate it if somebody could help me out.

[Noonski]

can somebody please provide the cab for the full version of Music ID...I dont have my external HD w/ me and I had the cab file in it....I know that NATF packages it in his roms and i would greatly appreciate it if somebody could help me out.

Music ID cannot be provided as Cab.

It can only be Provided in Rom as it was Provided in an AT&T rom (i'm not sure which Rom it was again)
(also not that familiar with US Providers and stuff, bloody Ughropean is I)

I know Rules are Funny Trust me, NATF had to explain it to me again just days ago, it's mind boggling.
(NATF is NATF to me No matter how many times others call him Todd)

[nableezy]

Music ID cannot be provided as Cab.

It can only be Provided in Rom as it was Provided in an AT&T rom (i'm not sure which Rom it was again)
(also not that familiar with US Providers and stuff, bloody Ughropean is I)

I know Rules are Funny Trust me, NATF had to explain it to me again just days ago, it's mind boggling.
(NATF is NATF to me No matter how many times others call him Todd)
MusicID can be a cab, its in the all cabs rar on da_g's thread, not sure if it a full version tho.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446652

[NotATreoFan]

v4.1 Test Version ONLY

http://www.natf.info/ROMs/v4/NATF_Pre-v4.1_TEST_ONLY.rar

AT&T Standard version, usual password. I'll edit this post with a changelog once I get to work... running late right now.


Again, please do NOT download this unless you are willing to spend 2-6 hours testing the ROM for the issues reported since 4.0 was released.


Issues Noticed:

Using the hybrid of 21009/20954, AGPS is once again being finicky. iNav would not open until I disabled AGPS, and soft reset. That being said, it still locked on to my location within 30 seconds (no jumpstart).

[nableezy]

so happy i stayed up for this :) will flash asap

[ryan6603]

v4.1 Test Version ONLY

http://www.natf.info/ROMs/v4/NATF_Pre-v4.1_TEST_ONLY.rar

AT&T Standard version, usual password. I'll edit this post with a changelog once I get to work... running late right now.


Again, please do NOT download this unless you are willing to spend 2-6 hours testing the ROM for the issues reported since 4.0 was released.

Got to get to work. long day today in the field. If you are still doing testing by 5pm i will def. get it on there and give you results by 11p.

[xcsdm]

I'm curious. What card brand/size are you using? The reason I'm asking is that I have an 8gb sandisk and I have had absolutely zero problems. My sashimi installs everything, several items to the card. Gamrin, Music, Movies. I play movies with both CorePlayer and WMP, same for music. I have not had a reset on my phone that I didn't cause :-)


XC

Must say NATF's 4.0 does seem solid except things read from the card. Movies, music and some programs that are loaded on the card just don't react like they should. Movies will cause a reboot of the system in a very short while. Did not have this problem with 3.2 but 4 did fix other problems. Loading things on the main will fix the problem for the time being. Hoping 4.1 addresses this issue.

[NotATreoFan]

Got to get to work. long day today in the field. If you are still doing testing by 5pm i will def. get it on there and give you results by 11p.

I'm hoping to get v4.1 out by tonight. I'm flying to Florida tomorrow morning, and while I will have my laptop, I won't have a high speed connection to upload ROMs with.

[Enrique00]

Ill try the prerelease later tonight, and let you know how it is!

Thanks for all you do - Great work!

[nableezy]

First notes on 4.1 beta: havent done a whole ton of testing, the volume button issues seem fully resolved, both with volume keys and long end, show and stay correctly and vibrate notification is correct as well. AGPS on by default, thought you wanted to change this. active sync is working, though havent yet loaded any memory tweaks, though dont think i need to this feels snappier then 4.0 or 3.2. Will put those in though to see if the same memory issues persist. Havent had a chance to test gps yet, will do soon.

[NotATreoFan]

First notes on 4.1 beta: havent done a whole ton of testing, the volume button issues seem fully resolved, both with volume keys and long end, show and stay correctly and vibrate notification is correct as well. AGPS on by default, thought you wanted to change this. active sync is working, though havent yet loaded any memory tweaks, though dont think i need to this feels snappier then 4.0 or 3.2. Will put those in though to see if the same memory issues persist. Havent had a chance to test gps yet, will do soon.

I was considering leaving AGPS enabled since it actually worked in 4.0. See my edited post above... due to the AGPS issues returning, I'm going to remove all the AGPS server info, and just provide a CAB for people who want to use it.

[ryan6603]

I'm hoping to get v4.1 out by tonight. I'm flying to Florida tomorrow morning, and while I will have my laptop, I won't have a high speed connection to upload ROMs with.

high speed connection? use your fuze :)

[atsitalian]

First notes on 4.1 beta: havent done a whole ton of testing, the volume button issues seem fully resolved, both with volume keys and long end, show and stay correctly and vibrate notification is correct as well. AGPS on by default, thought you wanted to change this. active sync is working, though havent yet loaded any memory tweaks, though dont think i need to this feels snappier then 4.0 or 3.2. Will put those in though to see if the same memory issues persist. Havent had a chance to test gps yet, will do soon.

I concur with nableezy. The only issue I was having was with the volume buttons which seems to be resolved.

The PTT button is not working at all. I get this: The file 'PTTMod' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found...

Tried soft reset and still no go. Will try to reflash and will change my post if anything changes.

Thanks a bunc and keep plugging!!! or should I say flashing.... man that does not sound right :)

[NotATreoFan]

high speed connection? use your fuze :)

Doesn't quite stack up against a 20mbps upload... ;)

I concur with nableezy. The only issue I was having was with the volume buttons which seems to be resolved.

The PTT button is not working at all. I get this: The file 'PTTMod' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found...

Tried soft reset and still no go. Will try to reflash and will change my post if anything changes.

Thanks a bunc and keep plugging!!! or should I say flashing.... man that does not sound right :)

Don't bother reflashing. It's not gonna work. I accidentally copied the wrong shortcuts for the PTT button. I'll be sure to correct this.

[xcsdm]

Don't bother reflashing. It's not gonna work. I accidentally copied the wrong shortcuts for the PTT button. I'll be sure to correct this.

Which version of PTTMod did you include? I'll upload a quick fix for pre4.1 so that the other features can be thoroughly tested

XC

[nableezy]

Which version of PTTMod did you include? I'll upload a quick fix for pre4.1 so that the other features can be thoroughly tested

XC
Your old one that you posted works after reinstalling it over pre4.1

[NotATreoFan]

Which version of PTTMod did you include? I'll upload a quick fix for pre4.1 so that the other features can be thoroughly tested

XC

I tried to include the latest one you sent me, but it wouldn't work. The buttons didn't map correctly in Settings. Also, is there a way to have the names of the buttons defined? When I had your app included, I could remap all the buttons promised, but none of them were labeled to know which one was which.

I looked through the RGU in the OEM package, and all of the buttons seem to be hard coded to the Start Menu structure in my ROMs. It may be better to code the buttons to the duplicate shortcuts that exist in \Windows. For example, instead of coding a button to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Multimedia\Windows Media.lnk, use \Windows\WMPlayer.lnk.

[ajaholic]

I wish I knew why I was having so much difficulty with GPS - since I'm currently backpacking around Asia, it would be just about the most useful feature the phone could offer, yet I've been utterly unable to get a lock no matter what I do (had it on for 3omin+ while walking around outside). Are you using QuickGPS too? Which radio? What software are you locking with?

I am using the standard at&t radio rom 1.02.25.32 with TomTom 7.4. With 4.0 I did not even have to use QuickGPS, for some reason it would just connect within seconds all the time. However with every 3.2 and below it would take forever to connect I have no idea why.

[xcsdm]

I tried to include the latest one you sent me, but it wouldn't work. The buttons didn't map correctly in Settings. Also, is there a way to have the names of the buttons defined? When I had your app included, I could remap all the buttons promised, but none of them were labeled to know which one was which.

I looked through the RGU in the OEM package, and all of the buttons seem to be hard coded to the Start Menu structure in my ROMs. It may be better to code the buttons to the duplicate shortcuts that exist in \Windows. For example, instead of coding a button to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Multimedia\Windows Media.lnk, use \Windows\WMPlayer.lnk.


That's odd. I just sent another version this morning. I looked at the RGU in the zip file, and it looks good. Also, I installed that CAB that I used when I built the OEMPACKAGE, and all the buttons are labeled/iconed and easily distinguished from one another...

XC

[Captain_Throwback]

HTC Album still seems to hate my Storage Card. I'm using a 16GB SanDisk Class 2 card. It'll show the pictures on my card if I select "All", but it never lets my actually choose Storage Card as my Album. This is also causing Camera to delay. This was never a problem prior to 4.0. Pictures & Videos also seems to be taking a long time to access the pictures on my card.

iGO still causes the device to soft reset when run.

HTC Music Player seems to be recognizing the music on my Card okay now.

I'm sad about aGPS, though. It was working so well in 4.0.

I did notice a small issue with 4.0 that seems to also be the case in 4.1: At times my data shows connected, but Weather won't update and I can't access the internet. If I terminate the data connection, and then force it to reconnect using Opera or Weather, it usually seems fine.

I still can't turn on the Data Connection using the Comm Manager, though it can still be turned off (says "No data connection exists").

Activesync will still not sync with my Exchange server with the Storgae Card inserted. Once I remove the card and hard reset the phone, it will complete its initial sync, and then I can re-insert the card, and it seems to work going forward. This was also never a problem prior to 4.0.

[NotATreoFan]

That's odd. I just sent another version this morning. I looked at the RGU in the zip file, and it looks good. Also, I installed that CAB that I used when I built the OEMPACKAGE, and all the buttons are labeled/iconed and easily distinguished from one another...

XC

I apologize. I built this ROM at like 1am EST, so the version that arrived by PM 2 hours ago is not the one I was having trouble with.


I'm sad about aGPS, though. It was working so well in 4.0.


AGPS was working good, but the GPS is still working great overall.


I did notice a small issue with 4.0 that seems to also be the case in 4.1: At times my data shows connected, but Weather won't update and I can't access the internet. If I terminate the data connection, and then force it to reconnect using Opera or Weather, it usually seems fine.


I have not experienced this.


I still can't turn on the Data Connection using the Comm Manager, though it can still be turned off (says "No data connection exists").


When was this ever possible? I've never been able to do this. Does it only become available after setting Exchange servers?


Activesync will still not sync with my Exchange server with the Storgae Card inserted. Once I remove the card and hard reset the phone, it will complete its initial sync, and then I can re-insert the card, and it seems to work going forward. This was also never a problem prior to 4.0.

It's weird, but at least it works. :)

[xcsdm]

I apologize. I built this ROM at like 1am EST, so the version that arrived by PM 2 hours ago is not the one I was having trouble with.


Ahh, that would do it. I made some changes the Da_G recommended, and repackaged it this morning.

Also, are you planning to put the new keyboard driver in 4.1? If not, you can delete most of those buttons anyway. They rely on the keyboard opening the correct shortcuts. (You only need 40C6,C7,C8 without the new keyboard driver.

XC

[datima]

I'm curious. What card brand/size are you using? The reason I'm asking is that I have an 8gb sandisk and I have had absolutely zero problems. My sashimi installs everything, several items to the card. Gamrin, Music, Movies. I play movies with both CorePlayer and WMP, same for music. I have not had a reset on my phone that I didn't cause :-)


XC
8GB SanDisk Class 2. I might which cards out and try that. Movies that ran on 3.2 will not run on my V4. It does a hard reset.

[NotATreoFan]

Ahh, that would do it. I made some changes the Da_G recommended, and repackaged it this morning.

Also, are you planning to put the new keyboard driver in 4.1? If not, you can delete most of those buttons anyway. They rely on the keyboard opening the correct shortcuts. (You only need 40C6,C7,C8 without the new keyboard driver.

XC

Where would I obtain said driver?

[Captain_Throwback]

HTC Music Player seems to be recognizing the music on my Card okay now.

Looks like I spoke too soon. Music Player is also making my device very slow, and is still not seeing all of my music.

When was this ever possible? I've never been able to do this. Does it only become available after setting Exchange servers?

I did notice that I couldn't toggle MSDP prior to setting up my Exchange account, but I didn't think that the Data Connection was dependent on that. If I recall correctly, I could toggle the Data Connection on and off in the Stock ROM, and in 3.2. I'll reflash 3.2 again just to confirm. But you can't toggle MSDP on and off without setting up an Exchange account for sure.

[ryan6603]

HTC Album still seems to hate my Storage Card. I'm using a 16GB SanDisk Class 2 card. It'll show the pictures on my card if I select "All", but it never lets my actually choose Storage Card as my Album. This is also causing Camera to delay. This was never a problem prior to 4.0. Pictures & Videos also seems to be taking a long time to access the pictures on my card.


i have SanDisk16GB class 2 card as well. Loaded up. I am still experiencing the same problems.

did you see my post about the "All" comment? same here. what you have to do is select album>>"all" the first time you pull up the menu. After you select this you can them hit the album>>Storage card will be there.

[Ratler1371]

I did notice that I couldn't toggle MSDP prior to setting up my Exchange account, but I didn't think that the Data Connection was dependent on that. If I recall correctly, I could toggle the Data Connection on and off in the Stock ROM, and in 3.2. I'll reflash 3.2 again just to confirm. But you can't toggle MSDP on and off without setting up an Exchange account for sure.

I am still running 3.2 and can toggle my data connection on/off in Comm Manager.

[Captain_Throwback]

i have SanDisk16GB class 2 card as well. Loaded up. I am still experiencing the same problems.

did you see my post about the "All" comment? same here. what you have to do is select album>>"all" the first time you pull up the menu. After you select this you can them hit the album>>Storage card will be there.

I got that to work once, but now its taking so long to load "All" my pictures that it never even gets to the point that I can select "Albums" to try and see the Storage Card.

EDIT: I was finally able to get it working. I just had to wait a while for the phone to finish finding all of my pictures. It never took this long on previous ROMs (besides 4.0), and I could even have my Card partitioned.

When you set an album as favorite, the box that pops up is skewed (see attached pic).

[silvertorch]

I did notice a small issue with 4.0 that seems to also be the case in 4.1: At times my data shows connected, but Weather won't update and I can't access the internet. If I terminate the data connection, and then force it to reconnect using Opera or Weather, it usually seems fine.

Cap, are you by chance around the Chicago land area.

I have been having the same kind of issue. I'm thinking it could have something to with my location.

[foxracr10]

awesome rom... quite fast, much better than the stock att rom.

Any update on the vibrate settings yet?