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Mark A Cilenti

15th January 2009, 11:35 PM

I am going to try again to start a thread dedicated to discussing and posting ideas for improvements to xda Developers web site.

My first 2 attempts at this didn't go smoothly, shall we say, but undettered in true Rocky style, I wont give up.

I have learnt allot about this site, its members and Moderators, from my last 2 attemps and if members will agree, I will like to add 2 SOFT conditions to members posting on this thread.

1. Members can add new ideas anytime for other members to read.
2. However you can only post a criticism of another members idea, if you post a new idea of your own.

Very simple and designed to generate ideas, as well as constructive criticism.

The first 2 ideas I posted I will list again, with tweaks, along with a new 3rd & 4th Ideas, to get the ball rolling.

Idea 1 - A one stop shop for Touch Flo 3D users and modders.

Move threads on Touch Flo 3D, 2D, etc to forums of devices where the software is supplied by the Manufacturer.

Stops all forums , on all devices, being dominated by Touch3D, many of them made sticky by Moderators. We have allot of duplicate threads, discussing and doing very similar things, all over this site, why not pool these threads in one place, a one stop Touch 3D resource.

Idea 2 - Multimedia dimension, allowing thread soundtracks.

Mine - 146988,

Add the ability for those posting threads to add an optional soundtrack to there threads, to increase mutimedia enjoyment of these forums. The option is set to off by defualt, for those who dont want to partake in such things.

I have been informed that this idea will be formerly submitted to the Site adminstrators and a statement on the technical feasablity, not desirability, will be posted by the Site Administrator, who names I still dont know.

Idea 3 - Facelift

When was the last time this site had a facelift ? For my tastes, the brown and yellow colours look very old fashioned, but easy on the eye, maybe too easy, and rather dull, and boring looking

In my opinion it also looks very 60's, male and straight laced and is unlikely to attract the growing number of female users of WM devices.

" Diamonds are a girls best friend. " generation.

Whilst keeping the main body of this site however the administrators wish it to look, allow users to set different coloured backgrounds for there theads ( no bandwidth increase needed) . Maybe even low res Jpegs, if bandwidths would not suffer too much.

Personally I am a fan of black and white, with a focussed splash of colour.

4. A Going concern or a growing concern ?

Financial Subscription required to access downloads and links.

I propose a £20 year mandatory subscription fee to allow members to access links and download files from this site. Browsing is still free.

Im tired of this site breaking down all the time when I am mid creative flow. £2 a month is not allot to ask, to access all the wealth of information and free original software produced by members on this site.

Is this site a going concern, and is that what WM will end up being for Microsoft, a going concern, or a growing concern.

Current members will be given 3 months grace before they are asked to Pony up the dough, to post and Show.

Remember if your only a browser...you dont have to put your hand in your trouser :D

Wm devices are more customisable and multimedia orientated than ever before. The X1 is probaly the most customisable and configurable WM device yet created, praise to Sony and HTC, and members on this site.

Ease of customisation and personalisation has always been one of the great strengths of WM, shouldn't this be reflected on the site that seeks to lead and champion there developement ?

Please remember the SOFT conditions.

Dont POST and ROAST if you have nothing to BOAST.

( Moderators you can decide for yourselves if you want to play by the rules stated above. But POST, ROAST and BOAST is an original idea itself, critcism of this idea is consdiered a ROAST.:p)

Should referrees really be allowed to kick the ball ?

-PiLoT-

16th January 2009, 12:08 AM

adrian adrian adriaaaaannn

Junner2003

16th January 2009, 12:10 AM

Readability is the most important factor in a community such as XDA Developers. Your POST ROAST AND BOAST idea does not add any value to the content of this forum nor will it improve the SEARCH or PERFORMANCE of this site, so, basically: facelifting is neat but it serves absolutely no purpose other than 'meeting the taste' of some users! And here is the difficult aspect: TASTE! Surely, a couple of people would like a face lifting, ... others don't!

Check out the total number of members; check also the daily amount of users logged in to the boards or the amount of guests reading the forums - now, that tells me that most people like the site exactly the way it is (and this might be the main reason why your first 2 attempts / posts were not successfully!).

Mark A Cilenti

16th January 2009, 12:47 AM

( THREAD MODERATOR )

Your ROASTS are invalid without a BOAST.

Have you got your heads round this concept yet, and its purpose ? , it is designed to wean members away from purely sour, negative destructive POSTS.

Nothing to BOAST...Nothing to ROAST :D

scotchua

16th January 2009, 01:09 AM

Let me first get my moderator activity out of the way and say to those who may not like this thread, THOU SHALT NOT FLAME! If you don't like this thread, then please just try to put it from your mind. If you think it is useless, then feel free to continue in that opinion, but please do not post those thoughts repeatedly. Post here if you have something useful to add, otherwise feel free to ignore the thread completely.

Now for my thoughts:

1) Too many TF3D software is devices specific for there to be a thread devoted specifically to any one software. You will not that it is not how the forum is set up or designed. I feel that a better idea, and one that you'll notice has been worked upon is to separate theme design and device specific software in it's own sub-forum for each device. We are continuing to work on making the organization of information more accessible.

2) From what i've gathered, this idea is not a widely popular one. I have it on good authority that there is practically zero chance of this happening, as it would require a significant investment in time and resources of our professional staff which is not available at this time. In addition, it does not seem to be something that the majority of the thousands of users of the site are interested in. That being said however, feel free to discuss the topic to your hearts content, just don't expect anything to happen from it.

3) This is a developers site, and not myspace. The reality is that people come here for the information that is presented here, not because it's easy on the eyes. That being said, i'm partial to the old yellow and brown. I like it, and i hope it never ever changes...but that's just my opinon. I think there's a little confusion about thread ownership. Just because you start a thread doesn't make it your property. Much of the information shared will come from other members, and who's to say you should be stuck looking at whatever color the OP decides, just something to think about.

4) XDA-Developers is NOT a business, it's a developers community. I would be deeply saddened to see it go to a paid subscription. I personally think it's a terrible idea. This isn't to say that i haven't contributed to the site, as i obviously have, but to make it mandatory just misses the whole reason we are here. The recent technical difficulties were termporary, and should in no way be considered an indication of the future of the site. I just think this suggestion misses the whole point of why we are here.

Others should feel free to disagree with me or any other members on any of these points; however, remember to be respectful at all times when discussing these things. If you can't be respectful don't post, or i'll be handing out bans. I think a topic like this is a good oportunity for us to rethink the way we discuss things with each other. Users should feel free to share ideas, regardless of how we feel about them. So happy brainstorming.

Finally: I would suggest the OP keep a list of some of the more popular ideas shared, and perhaps even link to them in his first post.

JimmyMcGee

16th January 2009, 01:50 AM

Let me first get my moderator activity out of the way and say to those who may not like this thread, THOU SHALT NOT FLAME! If you don't like this thread, then please just try to put it from your mind. If you think it is useless, then feel free to continue in that opinion, but please do not post those thoughts repeatedly. Post here if you have something useful to add, otherwise feel free to ignore the thread completely.

Agreed, NO FLAMING, or you will feel the wrath of Scotchua, and even I am afraid of that!

Now for my thoughts:
Maybe they are my thoughts!

1) Too many TF3D software is devices specific for there to be a thread devoted specifically to any one software. You will not that it is not how the forum is set up or designed. I feel that a better idea, and one that you'll notice has been worked upon is to separate theme design and device specific software in it's own sub-forum for each device. We are continuing to work on making the organization of information more accessible.

Agreed, if you think finding TouchFlo information is difficult now, what would it be like if all threads were merged!

2) From what i've gathered, this idea is not a widely popular one. I have it on good authority that there is practically zero chance of this happening, as it would require a significant investment in time and resources of our professional staff which is not available at this time. In addition, it does not seem to be something that the majority of the thousands of users of the site are interested in. That being said however, feel free to discuss the topic to your hearts content, just don't expect anything to happen from it.
Agreed. Back circa 1996 when I was on the internet everyone with their GeoCities webpage had MIDIs playing. I didn't like it then, I don't like it now.

3) This is a developers site, and not myspace. The reality is that people come here for the information that is presented here, not because it's easy on the eyes. That being said, i'm partial to the old yellow and brown. I like it, and i hope it never ever changes...but that's just my opinon. I think there's a little confusion about thread ownership. Just because you start a thread doesn't make it your property. Much of the information shared will come from other members, and who's to say you should be stuck looking at whatever color the OP decides, just something to think about.

Agreed. The look is classic. Its soft on the eyes and I don't have to squint to see it like I do on dark forums, like PPCGeeks.com.

4) XDA-Developers is NOT a business, it's a developers community. I would be deeply saddened to see it go to a paid subscription. I personally think it's a terrible idea. This isn't to say that i haven't contributed to the site, as i obviously have, but to make it mandatory just misses the whole reason we are here. The recent technical difficulties were termporary, and should in no way be considered an indication of the future of the site. I just think this suggestion misses the whole point of why we are here.

Agreed. Profiting of OTHERS work is kind of silly. But I cannot stress enough to everyone the importance of Donating to XDA!

Others should feel free to disagree with me or any other members on any of these points; however, remember to be respectful at all times when discussing these things. If you can't be respectful don't post, or i'll be handing out bans. I think a topic like this is a good oportunity for us to rethink the way we discuss things with each other. Users should feel free to share ideas, regardless of how we feel about them. So happy brainstorming.

Agreed. Be good or Scotchua will try and beat the Mod record number of bans in a day.

Finally: I would suggest the OP keep a list of some of the more popular ideas shared, and perhaps even link to them in his first post.

Agreed. I think (scotchua's idea) is a great idea!

Mark A Cilenti

16th January 2009, 02:13 AM

-PiLoT-

16th January 2009, 02:17 AM

but that leads to people who havent been on a unified front with all the other mods doings a days work. now lets for instance if you had become a mod for a day when you thort touchflo2d was illegal that would mean youd delete it. then that would lead to arguements

im not saying its a terrible idea i once flashed it through my mind for my site. but it does mean people with different thoughts doing one job which is a bit of a dilemma

Mark A Cilenti

16th January 2009, 02:23 AM

The above post is INVALIDATED, again, and will be struck from members minds and conciousness.

No Boast...No Roast

-PiLoT-

16th January 2009, 02:25 AM

i dont get why cant i say what my thorts on matter are

scotchua

16th January 2009, 02:40 AM

Boast - Moderator for the day.

Members put there name on a list and are chosen at random, they become.....

MODERATOR for the day !

Watch out.
The probo Mod is about.
Look after your thread.
Or he will kick it in the head. :D

ROAST - Critique of laset fair philosophy ( keep things as they are )

" Without Creation...There is Stagnation. "

I propose an alternate take on the issue of keeping things as they are, and it is this.

To continue to do today what we did yesterday because it continues to be useful today, is tradition, or the living faith of the dead. To continue to do things the way we did yesterday, because they were useful yesterday is traditionalism, or the dead faith of the living.

Traditions bring a certain amount of comfort and familiarity that can make something more useful to us. Traditionalism typically brings death to those who are not able to change.

The point i make is that there is nothing wrong with continuing to do things the way we have because they still work, the problem lies in doing them because we are unwilling to change.

All ideas will receive equal respect within the thread; however, not all idea will receive equal acceptance. I think to ban criticism completely, well it misses the point, because the problem has never been the criticisms themselves, but rather the attacking nature of most criticisms.

It is not wrong to say "i don't think that is a good idea", but it is wrong to say "it is wrong for you to share your idea." Or at least that is now i see it.

As for the thread monitor of the day. It is my opinion that one chosen to moderate over his peers should be chosen in a less haphazard way than that. It is a significant challenge and responsibility to enforce the rules and conduct oneself impartially. Plus, i'm sure there will be plenty of moderators around should some moderation need to be done. ;)

Mark A Cilenti

16th January 2009, 03:09 AM

BOAST - Philosopher of the Day

Many members like to add philosophical tag lines to there signature, lets faciltate this obvios need for members to express themselves, by adding quote of the day, to the banner at the top of this site.

Members put there names on a list, and chosen at random they become...

Philosopher of the day !

Roast - Moderators please try to play the game to set an example. A thread that contained pure concentrated cristicism and negativity and no ideas, would never get read, try starting one - My X1 is Crap etc.

Poeple on this site live in fear of posting suggestions, becuase they are jumped on and voilently assualted, metaphorically, swarmed in sea of writhing negativity, stiffling hope and new birth.:mad:

Play the game, see where it goes, you may be suprioised how bright people are on this sight, and how many thrive on a structure to debates and discussions.

( there are hints in my BOASTS for members and Moderators wanting to jump in. ) :D

Cal-El

16th January 2009, 03:39 AM

Boast- If it isnt broke, dont fix it! :)

Roast- On the subject of progress, In reference to a term you use often "stagnant". There is no danger nor will there ever be any danger of "stagnation" on XDA! The very word is used to describe the state of something that becomes sour as a result of an interruption of fresh material from a needed source. As XDA is always the hub of a influx of ideas and the source of change in the lives of thousands of people every day, it is in no way a pool that is in danger of stagnation, but more like unto an aquaduct by which ideas flow on a very consistant basis, and therin lies the beauty of the system that is XDA! As we look at history we see one truth, when things become so bad that the majority becomes in danger of not being able to function at a level that is productive, the majority seeks change and through that change is born! It is not wrong to crave change but when it is needed it will happen, to force it is dangerous! Again, if it isnt broke, dont fix it! :)

Mark A Cilenti

16th January 2009, 04:36 AM

Boast - Post of the Day

Try and encourage a culture of praise and reward to xda developers.

Moderators from each forum IM each other and select a winner from the previous days posts, and the winning entry becomes...

Post of the day !

The post can be an article, an explanation, a program, a tweak, anything the Mods have considered to be outstanding work done on this site, it would be read.

( This Boast has a graphical dimension, unzip the file, copy to your X1 and click. )

147066,

Roast - Mmmmmm Cal - El, im sure the inhabitants of Krypton, were going about there business happy as pie, before they were struck with doom, from an intellegnt mind who was frustrated at the lack of change and openess to change on his home world.

As for the majoirty changing things, this does not happen. Im sure the inhabitants of Rome deep down knew there empire was crumbling, but the establishmnet kept telling them everyhting was fine, we are the best, we are the strongest etc etc and they carried on regardless.

The iphone has lit the fire and Rome is burning.:(

As for passengers on a ship being aware of where the captain is taking them.

Apple iceburg ahead:eek:

-PiLoT-

16th January 2009, 09:19 AM

okay then now i get it

BOAST

This site has its own heartbeat, its own pace. take awahile to listen to it, you might be intergrated a lot more.

ROAST

This site has no need to add changes or flashyness to it and the addition of daily changes would provide prressure on the mods, pressur they do not need, it also might bring with it competitivness, a thing that not an issue here. and that would change this site into a spite filled place

Junner2003

16th January 2009, 09:21 AM

neoobs

16th January 2009, 10:56 AM

BOAST:

* of the day

Take anything on the site from thread to image to sig to avatar and lets make a day out of it

ROAST:

Repetitiveness

You won't get anywhere if all your ideas are the same just with a little twist. It is one thing to improve an idea, it is another to repeat it and market it as something new.

FloatingFatMan

16th January 2009, 11:22 AM

3) This is a developers site, and not myspace. The reality is that people come here for the information that is presented here, not because it's easy on the eyes. That being said, i'm partial to the old yellow and brown. I like it, and i hope it never ever changes...but that's just my opinon. I think there's a little confusion about thread ownership. Just because you start a thread doesn't make it your property. Much of the information shared will come from other members, and who's to say you should be stuck looking at whatever color the OP decides, just something to think about.

I'm not going to comment on the OP's points, as requested by yourself ;), but I WOULD like to comment on the forum skin. Personally, I've never really liked the yellow and brown... It's a bit jarring on my eyes though I don't let that stop me spending time here! It *would* be nice if a few more skins were available... Some soft blues for example. There ARE 1000's available for vBulletin... :p

Mark A Cilenti

16th January 2009, 01:15 PM

BOAST 1 - Make the Forums more manufacterer friendly.

The X1 is a new device, in many ways, and there are teething troubles, why do I have to go Xperia X1 - WEbsite to read official responses from Sony to members posts on that site ?

Why dont Sony feel comfortable to post officially on XDA Dev, like they have on other websites and forums on the web ? everywhere it seems, but here.

I want to read what they have to say, as well other members opinions, views, improvements comments etc,....the whole picture.

My X1 is interested in what its parents have to say.

Some will say they are free to contribute at any time, we dont stop them, but they dont, why ? What is it about the culture on this site that makes parents like Sony and Granparents like Microsoft, unwilling to engage with us.

This is what I propose, to bring our parents back into the fold, to provide some safe space for them to spend some time with there children. Each Forum will have a 1 thread set aside for manufacturers comments, and to protect them from vicerile abuse, it will be read only at first, as we dont want to overwhelm our parents with our many wants and wishes.

Site Adminsitrators and Forum MODS make official email approaches to Manfactueres, encouraging them and asking them to contribute, explaining the safe space we have created for them

( Hint send it to the marketting team, they are more likely to apprecaite the postive opportinty we are giveing them)

ROAST 1 - Devils Advocate is not a Boast, Keeping things as they are is not a Boast.

BOAST DEFINITION - A BOAST is an idea to improve this website, and by its very definition implies a change to the status Quo, a tweak, a modification etc etc

Many members seem only too keen to roast any and every idea put forward, but where are the BOASTS, netherless this thread is servings its secondary purpose very well, it is showing to readers and members alike how a culture of Roasting, criticise and attack, has taken hold on this site, and is stiffling new ideas to this site, and our devices.

Children who have been abused and grown up on this site are now passing on that abuse to the next generation. ( Metaphoircally )

' Roasting a newbie ' is not an edifying spectacle.:mad: It stops NOW !

If you have nothing to PUSH...Shut your MUSH !
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _________________________

BOAST 2 - Quick promotion to Senior Member, MOds can fast track members to Senior Status for outstanding contribution to XDA Developers.

Here is an exmaple on the Turbo Speed X1 Thread, Alex Atkin posted a tweak where he was able to use a micro SD card with 1024 sectors and 128kb cluster size, pushing the boundaries of what is possible for SD card speeds, he records an SD card read speed of 23, 000 kb/sec, compared to the X1 defualt read speed of only 2, 000 kb/sec.:eek:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459328&page=30

Candidate for POST on the day !

ROAST 2 - Whats this " US and you " langauge I read in some of the ROASTS, I have stuck to the issues and the promotion of ideas, not wasted my time trying to form gangs and lynch mobs.

Ive been managed out before, I know the techniques and the motives behind them.

__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________

BOAST 3 - 2 new catagory of members.

I am slightly uncomfortable with the label of Senior Member, this site gives me the same status as people with vastly superior programming knowledge and those of much greater lengths of service.

What I propose is 2 new catagories of member, above Senior Member, but below Moderator, they are Peer and Senior Peer.

Thus the hiarachy on this site would be redrawn as follows.

Moderator
Senior Peer
Peer
Senior Member
Member
Junior Member

Peer status promotion has nothing to do with how many posts or threads a member submits. It is decided on by the Moderators and given for outstanding contribution to helping others on this site.

This would recognise and value allot of the coaching that goes on on this site, unnoticed and unrewarded.

ROAST 3 - Self Regulation, is it working ?

Criticism is a privilige, and if it is abused, like it has been then it can be taken away, or regulated, like the way I have designed this thread.

For me, self regulation was not working on this site. If ideas are the fuel of our sun, through which we burn bright in the universe, I would say the amount of fuel was being consumed and burned at unsustainable rate. And when all the fuel is consumed, the sun dies & collapses under its own weight of criticism, and goes SuperNova.

If members dont self regulate, this is what will happen, people with ideas and software will post elsewhere.

If this site doesn't self regulate, companies like HTC, Microsoft and Sony, will introduce licence keys to there next generation of mobile software. Then porting of programs to other platforms will require a Warez, what will this site do then ?

-PiLoT-

16th January 2009, 08:19 PM

boast
i like the boast and roast idea but most of us try to do this by common sense

roast

remember senior member has no special priviledged. the only reason it take so long to get the status is because this is a major reading forum. theres really no point in becoming a senior members you may have noticed get a false sense of authority id prefer to be a member or a regular

fards

20th January 2009, 12:05 PM

No we are not a flashy site, some might even say dull (graphically), but remember those things are just the ground on which our building is constructed. The substance of what we do is in the posts, not the background sounds or graphics. I agree with Jayjay8585, that we don't need to become flashy in terms of adding "baubles" to the site.

Mike

couldn't agree more, in fact I find the site works best if I use simple browsing in netfront..

-PiLoT-

20th January 2009, 01:34 PM

Boast

i think that make a nice sticky to tell members that its comes with no special priviledges would be cool. just a gentle reminder that if a senior member is seen abucsing there rank they will be consiquences by mods

roast
i think if were to change the staus of memers like peer and senior peer or whatever would just confuse peoples role within this site. again they would start competing for this and this makes things nasty and this is not a nasty site

the only time a noob is roasted is when they dont follow the rules which means they have brought it on themselves.

Addicted2xda

29th January 2009, 03:34 PM

couldn't agree more, in fact I find the site works best if I use simple browsing in netfront..

I Agree too! As sometimes I browse through my wm device, at other times using a dial up connection :D. So thank God its not flashy!
Now one idea, may be we can have forum dedicated to 'designer stuffs' like skins, wall papers, splash screens ?
What say you?

Mark A Cilenti

10th February 2009, 11:56 PM

Boast

A new section of XDA DEvelopers called workshops. Where willing members can post Workshop threads where they can take other members on a step by step introduction into there areas of Expertise.

I find it easier to learn from other people that I do just reading from books, and its nice to have the ability to ask questions.

This idea could eliminate allot of duplicate threads that are springing up on this site...How do I do this etc.

You would be suprised how many members would enjoy creating and leading workshops. Imgaine how much knowledge and expertise could be passed on to members and readers. It would become a much used and much loved section of XDA enhancing its reputation as a vehicle of learning and creativity for the Windows Mobile Community.

I want to learn Mortscript and have a dabble at C+, also I would be very intrested in a workshop that taught the basics of editing the Registry.

For my part I would be happy to lead a Workshop on Powerpoint, my area of Expertise.

JimmyMcGee

11th February 2009, 12:01 AM

Umm, you Failed to post a Roast, You can only post a Boast if you post a Roast, those are the rules.

:p

-PiLoT-

11th February 2009, 12:16 AM

BOAST i think we should be allowed to give funny comments a two thumbs up

Here ya go Jimmy

http://trendliest.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/siskel2.jpg

Roast

i think instaed of rating thread with 5 stars for productivity we should be voting from -10 to 10

Mark A Cilenti

11th February 2009, 12:24 AM

Roast

I tried to post a zip file today on my Screen Candy thread on the X1 forum and despite its size of under 5mb, it was refused upload. The guide below posting states 8mg limit for Zip Files.

Do members have secret upload profiles that prohibit them from posting up the limits advertised. Are Uploads checked by some secret upload checker before they are allowed ?

To get round this I used Megaupload, which is very good and free. Is this how this site is coping with its download and upload limitations by expecting members to post files elsewhere, with just links here.

If megaupload can do it for free, and still make money why cant XDA ?

What about displaying an advertising page when members are uploading files, if this helps pay the bills and gives us more reliable and enhanced facilities.

Where does this site see itself in 5 years time ?

The liklihood of members posting files will undoubtebly increase, and the size of there files is also likely to increase, whats XDA's answer ?

Moderators - are you referees or are your players ?

JimmyMcGee

11th February 2009, 12:35 AM

Once again, You only posted a Roast, You must post a Boast to post a Roast.

We are players in the referee game.

Its your rules for this thread too. You can't NOT follow your own rules, that's unfair. And you say us MODs are dictators.

And Megaupload is better equipped with numerous adds and selling premium subs to finance the Bandwidth Costs. XDA does not have the capacity to deal with large files. Do you not know how bandwidth works?

scotchua

11th February 2009, 12:44 AM

Do members have secret upload profiles that prohibit them from posting up the limits advertised. Are Uploads checked by some secret upload checker before they are allowed ?

To get round this I used Megaupload, which is very good and free. Is this how this site is coping with its download and upload limitations by expecting members to post files elsewhere, with just links here.

Moderators - are you referees or are your players ?

Two things:

1) I have given you a great deal of discretion up to this point, but I am sick and tired of you accusing us (being XDA) of discriminating against you. If I see it one more time, I will give you a vacation.

2) Most files are hosted off-site for several reasons, the biggest of which is that we're not trying to compete with a file sharing site, we are not a file sharing site, AND there is a lot of legal headache that is associated with users being able to post larger items such as roms here.

Added Extra Bonus: Mods are neither players or referees, more like the commissioner really. Too busy with the day to day administration to play the game, but pop in occasionally to lend our opinion.

Mark A Cilenti

11th February 2009, 01:14 AM

-PiLoT-

11th February 2009, 01:17 AM

Boast

I think That The files size should be upgraded to 10 MB

ROAST

I Think it should be noted that files sizes are not measureed in weight

ie Mg milligrams

MB megabytes

JimmyMcGee

11th February 2009, 01:22 AM

Boast

Reveiwed and revised upload instructions, what works and what doesn't, its clearly not all about file size, is it.

Roast

You read too much into what I said, The file was well below 5mg, the limit said 8mg. Are you sure the upload system works with files up to 8mg.

Is it the file type inside the zip that can cuase failure of upload, thats what I mean by upload checker.

I could not see any reason why the file didnt upload, can you point to an example of a zip close to 8mg that was sucessfully uploaded to this site ?

Whats this ' US ' ...I am a senior member of the ' US ' and I will review my own membership status if I feel the body cannot sustain my contribution to it.

If you think there is a problem with the Uploader, contact the Administrators. Don't act as though there is some conspiracy against you.

Also, I offer to anyone that does not like how XDA treats them or its members to review their own membership status and leave if the "body cannot sustain a direction you want."

XDA obviously is doing something right as evidenced by this membership size. XDA has made changes in the past, and for the good of all members, if you disagree, or are mad because they didn't implement your idea, among the millions we get, then be all means,

"Don't Leave Angry, Just Leave."

scotchua

11th February 2009, 01:27 AM

And I quote "Do members have a Secret upload profiles that prohibit them from posting up the limits advertised."

Explain how that's out of context and i'll retract my statement, otherwise drop it, apologize, or move on.

Mark A Cilenti

11th February 2009, 01:44 AM

DaveShaw

11th February 2009, 01:52 AM

Example - Are there different Upload limits and priviliges for Junior Member, Member and senior member, its not advertised, I thought everyone had the same priviliges, can you clarify this ?

Some of the sticky threads on X1 Forum have files much bigger than 8MB on them, are they given special priviliges to post larger files, who qualifies for this, who decides it, again not transparent, ie. secret.

Who decides on the stickyness of threads, what are the criteria, is it open to everyone, again not advertised, ie secret.

If you are determined to to find dark motives in my posts, you will be dissapointed, I am governed by love , truth and light, somehting far more dangerous and powerful ( did I really say that :p )

Hi Mark,

Can you please post the URL of the sticky in question? All first posts of the stickies are well below the 5/8Mb limit.

All the upload stuff is pure vBulletin, nothing more than the orginal config AFAIK. No special privildges for users / groups.

Thanks
Dave

-PiLoT-

11th February 2009, 01:54 AM

Boast

I think somebodies forgetting the rules you have to Boast then roast

those are the rules

Roast

Ur forgeting that some types of zip may be temperamental

IE

some 7zips dont work were normal zips will it may be a compatability issue at you end have you checked???

scotchua

11th February 2009, 01:57 AM

Example - Are there different Upload limits and priviliges for Junior Member, Member and senior member, its not advertised, I thought everyone had the same priviliges, can you clarify this ?

Some of the sticky threads on X1 Forum have files much bigger than 8MB on them, are they given special priviliges to post larger files, who qualifies for this, who decides it, again not transparent, ie. secret.

Who decides on the stickyness of threads, what are the criteria, is it open to everyone, again not advertised, ie secret.

If you are determined to to find dark motives in my posts, you will be dissapointed, I am governed by love , truth and light, somehting far more dangerous and powerful ( did I really say that :p )

There are NO stickied threads in the X1 forums with attachments hosted on XDA larger than 4MB actually. I also believe that you'll find that secret actually means hidden, not just something that isn't apparent. I do know how to read after all, a skill that has come in useful when trying to descipher what the heck you are talking about most of the time.

Mark A Cilenti

11th February 2009, 02:04 AM

Boast

More of this :D :) :p

Roast

Less of this :mad:

Dave

On the sticky thread Panels Fixes, tweaks by norti the Touch 3D Manilla file is 32 mb in size, and downloads straight to my PC.

scotchua

11th February 2009, 02:07 AM

On the sticky thread Panels Fixes, tweaks by norti the Touch 3D Manilla file is 32 mb in size, and downloads straight to my PC.

That's because it's hosted on his private server, check the link ;)

DaveShaw

11th February 2009, 02:09 AM

Boast

More of this :D :)

Roast

Less of this :mad:

Dave

On the sticky thread Panels Fixes, tweaks by norti the Touch 3D Manilla file is 32 mb in size, and downloads straight to my PC.

At scotchua said :D

Attachments appear as so...

Ta
Dave

NotATreoFan

11th February 2009, 02:10 AM

Boast:

I really love XDA Developers and its rules.

Roast:

http://www.wayodd.com/funny-pictures2/funny-pictures-poo-head-099.jpg
Mark A Cilenti

Mark A Cilenti

11th February 2009, 02:17 AM

Boast

What do you think of Workshops, no ones doin it.

Roast ( Myself - slightly tanned )

Ok on that file size issue I admit to a bit of this :o, your not part of the CIA afterall :p

Mark A Cilenti

11th February 2009, 02:36 AM

Boast

More proactive intervention on thread spoilers, people who have nothing useful to say or show ! Spamming is a lesser concern to out and out hostile attacks.

Roast

NotatreoFan I dont know you, but you have roasted yourself with that, well done :p

Moderators you have my permission to leave that picture on.

the-equinoxe

11th February 2009, 08:14 AM

Boast

What do you think of Workshops, no ones doin it.

Roast ( Myself - slightly tanned )

Ok on that file size issue I admit to a bit of this :o, your not part of the CIA afterall :p

Good lad, that is what we want you to believe. :p

Mark A Cilenti

11th February 2009, 11:30 AM

Boast

Use this thread to discuss ideas, it doesn't hurt to band things around, even if they never get implimented, it can stop members festering with discontent.

Roast

It is pointless and futile to use this thread to attack any other members personally. Post 24, I suggested an idea for Workshops, 24 posts later no one has commented on the message, only on the messenger.

No one knows me on this site, all bullits fired in character assassination have missed, I have no Weapons of Mass Destruction, and I do not consent to any inspection :p.

Remember people are reading this thread and making judgements about whether this is the kind of community they want to be part of.

If theres one thing worse than firing blanks, its shooting yourself in the foot.

Contray to what was said in post #25, members can post ideas at any time on this thread, without criticising others peoples ideas, it is clearly stated in the First post when I designed this thread.

1. Members can add new ideas anytime for other members to read.
2. However you can only post a criticism of another members idea, if you post a new idea of your own.

Ie you can Boast as mnay times as you like. But your Roasts are only valid if you include a Boast.

This is an attempt to eliminate pure negativity, poeple who just like to roast anything and anyone, which serves no useful purpose.
Only those with ideas, Boasts, will have there criticisms validated on this thread. Only those with some postive ideas to contribute will be considered worthy to criticise other peoples ideas.

If you want to set up a negative Roasting only thread be my guest.

aussiebum

11th February 2009, 02:03 PM

my 2 cents

Ideas / suggestions:

* moderate users who like to use a mix of LARGE and small posts as well as random colors. It makes them hard to read and a pain to navigate. Esp. on a mobile device.

* I don't like black and white color schemes for websites. More useful if they implement themes to satisfy picky users.

disagreements:

* website should NEVER be subscription. This is a community where developers and posters give up their time AND effort to post suggestions, hints, tweaks, feedback and useful software (donateware/open source/etc). Charging merely to access / download makes a mockery of this ideal.

personally I like the website the way it is. yes it's a bit disorganised and u need to dig around for info, but the google search works fairly well and the community is active, vibrant and not full of leechers/trolls making useless posts and causing trouble. can't ask more than that for a forum!

Mark A Cilenti

11th February 2009, 04:57 PM

Boast

More member control over layout and visual options is good idea I agree with member above. AS well as the ability to turn down the visual volume , I would like the ability to turn it up as well.

Roast

I dissagree on free is always better. My experience of life has taught the sometimes unless people pay for things or work for things, they are not respected or looked after. The many negative thread spoilers on this site demonstrates this. Not all people are bullet proof like me ha ha., one taste of it and they will be off.

Currently Being the only competant place to go, does not justify the personal abuse that goes on here.

JimmyMcGee

11th February 2009, 05:10 PM

Boast

More member control over layout and visual options is good idea I agree with member above. AS well as the ability to turn down the visual volume , I would like the ability to turn it up as well.

Roast

I dissagree on free is always better. My experience of life has taught the sometimes unless people pay for things or work for things, they are not respected or looked after. The many thread negative spoilers on this site demonstrates this. Not all people are bullet proof like me ha ha., one taste of it and they will be off.

Currently Being the only competant place to go, does not justify the personal abuse that goes on here.

Re: Boast: He wasn't talking about the Layout colors he was talking about people who colorize their text in their post.

Re: Roast: Once again you can feel that subscription based websites are better but know, that XDA will not become one.

aE3-ink

11th February 2009, 08:34 PM

Boast
More participation in the Wiki would be great. I haven't dared touch it yet but it was there I was able to work out how to flash my diamond correctly.

Roast
About the style of xda, okay, it's quite basic but it does the job & the idea of adding music to threads is horrible, someone said 'this isn't myspace' & thank goodness as myspace has to be the worst ever designed site I've ever had the misfortune to see, I still cannot understand how people can actually surf on suck a crippled beast.
An idea for those who don't like the colours/style here - use greasemonkey or the firefox extension Styler to modify the style to your tastes. Of course not everyone uses Firefox so for those who don't, a simple trick is to changed the colours on your monitor or gfx card - why not take of all the rgb & makke it a nice easy to read grey ?

Subscription ? Would be a disaster.

Toast
Where's the cheese ?

JimmyMcGee

12th February 2009, 01:26 AM

aE3-ink

12th February 2009, 02:04 AM

If you keep this up, you'll get your right to wield a stick in no time! :p
I'm not sure I'm in the stick wielders league, so for the moment I'll try practising with sausages.
:D

DaveShaw

12th February 2009, 10:45 AM

I'm not sure I'm in the stick wielders league, so for the moment I'll try practising with sausages.
:D

Sausage wielding users...

http://sausagewars.com/iwo-jima-sausage.jpg

That doesn't sound good. :D:D

Dave

NotATreoFan

12th February 2009, 05:26 PM

Mark,

If you came back to this thread wondering where your most recent post is, I deleted it. The reason, simple... Your comments regarding people from America, and Jewish people have no place on XDA.

Do it again, and you will be banned.

Mark A Cilenti

12th February 2009, 09:43 PM

Boast

NotaTreoFan - Do yourself a favour and take off the excrement you have posted, and the insult to the American War Memorial !, and American War Dead, and close this thread, as its obvious this site doesn't need any improvements :eek:

Roast

I dont want to be responsible for giving you or this site any more rope.

I dissassociate myself from this thread and will take no further part in it.

nir36

12th February 2009, 09:49 PM

Mark, give me a few minutes..

NotATreoFan

12th February 2009, 09:58 PM