Going to Cook A Finger Friendly Rom

[TheParadox]

I think the biggest issue with windows mobile touch screen phones is its so hard to use it with your fingers because the interface is so tiny. I'm relatively good with Photoshop CS4. So I will be able to skin the whole thing and what not. I was wondering though who is interested to beta test this? Also should I cook it with 6.5 or 6.1? I would say 6.1 for stability issues but I run 6.5 right now its a super fast and not many issues. Also anyone want to help out with this project like be part of the team. Thanks

-TheParadox

*Sorry if Im not allowed to post this mods =\ Just remove is you feel the need*

[crushbup]

I'd give it a try when you get it working.

[gabriel1234]

ill test it once its up and running

[TheParadox]

Alright Awesome Ill put you two down so far xD

[TheParadox]

I might just change my mind to and make it public but not sure yet.

[zard]

Count me in. Thanks.

[goander]

Just gimme the word and I'll help...I'd love to see a nice finger friendly rom. Also, just my opinion but i would like to see a 6.5 build...

[shazaani]

I myself hate using the phone while on the move. Especially the dialer. I'll be dialing one number and the damn thing will be dialing another. If you can setup a finger friendly dialer I'd love it!

[macyek]

You are aware that Shaps is going to release 100% touch rom "soon" ?
http://touchxperience.com/en/home.html
Don't know if u had similar thing in mind.


And it's probably better to cook it with 6.5
Can help with testing if needed.

[raymerjacque]

looking forward to a finger friendly rom :)

[MatthewYiu]

i'll test your ROM

[tricsio]

I would like to try this as well

[mbarvian]

sounds like a good idea (i alwas wished i was better at photoshop). what kind of programs are you going to use to achieve finger-friendliness? also, my recommendation would be to stick to Windows Mobile 6.1 as your base, or 6.1.4, as these are the most stable.

good luck coking ;)

[marcuswong]

I'm new here, but i would love to be your beta tester. I have experience in Photoshop too..

Let me know if you need my help.

[skadamat]

I am so sick of win.mo's lack of userf riendliness! I will srsly donatea lotta money once the Rom is done/ good/easy to use! anddd I will help testing too...I gotta an at/t tilt. Also...I recommend the following:
Browsers - Opera and Skyfire
GPS- TomTom...very fingerfriendly
Contact- either Yota contact or Icontact...and get the latest/fastest versions.
Home Screen- cook it such that when u hit the red/end button or hit "today" from startmenu...It goes to the UIprogram not default win.mo. homescreen. I reccomend either pointUI or a touchwiz theme or something.
Programs menu- cook it such that when u hit "programs" it opens touchlaunch

It'd be awesome if I see as lil of windows as possible. Plzz

Also....find a way/program that hides the startmenu when in like...the programs menu/etc....or a cool ap that when mapped to a hardwar button QUICLYm minimizes the windows startbar.

lastly ...I think we should base it off a phone...like completely iphone style - ifonz or a poseoff + icontact + s2p + s2u +s2v
orrr based on the omnia! with widgets ands hit. Make
as lil windowsmobile as possible!

[TheParadox]

Alright everyone sounds like a plan. I need suggestions for some things...I would like to make it native without a bunch of background software. Ill make a 6.1 version then if it succeeds ill cook a 6.5 version.

(Sorry for my slow reply =\ Got distracted by fall out 3. xD)

[WatermelonSlim]

I am so sick of win.mo's lack of userf riendliness! I will srsly donatea lotta money once the Rom is done/ good/easy to use! anddd I will help testing too...I gotta an at/t tilt. Also...I recommend the following:
Browsers - Opera and Skyfire
GPS- TomTom...very fingerfriendly
Contact- either Yota contact or Icontact...and get the latest/fastest versions.
Home Screen- cook it such that when u hit the red/end button or hit "today" from startmenu...It goes to the UIprogram not default win.mo. homescreen. I reccomend either pointUI or a touchwiz theme or something.
Programs menu- cook it such that when u hit "programs" it opens touchlaunch

It'd be awesome if I see as lil of windows as possible. Plzz

Also....find a way/program that hides the startmenu when in like...the programs menu/etc....or a cool ap that when mapped to a hardwar button QUICLYm minimizes the windows startbar.

lastly ...I think we should base it off a phone...like completely iphone style - ifonz or a poseoff + icontact + s2p + s2u +s2v
orrr based on the omnia! with widgets ands hit. Make
as lil windowsmobile as possible!
Sounds like you need SPB Mobile Shell. It is pretty much exactly what you just described.

[WatermelonSlim]

Alright everyone sounds like a plan. I need suggestions for some things...I would like to make it native without a bunch of background software. Ill make a 6.1 version then if it succeeds ill cook a 6.5 version.

(Sorry for my slow reply =\ Got distracted by fall out 3. xD)
Suggestions- throw in Remote Tracker
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394203

Also the video share from AT&T. I don't think there are any cooked ROMS that support it yet, but the AT&T stock ROM has it built in.
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/messaging-internet/media-entertainment/video-share-faqs.jsp

Some other cool things to throw in- an instant messenger (maybe 2- one that uses SMS like Oz and one that uses data like Palringo), Windows Live (for the email), Smiley SMS, an RSS reader, an ebook reader, a stop watch/timer, a bunch of games, livecast and/or qik... Nobody ever puts these in their ROMs for some reason...

[TheParadox]

Ill throw in palringo it rocks at IM. Has most all the networks fast and looks nice. =] Alright ill add all those. Ill work on this today as I have time off of school as its a half day.

[r0man.de]

Resco Utilities are a must-have (explorer, contacts)

[bubadrft]

ill try you rom count me in:)

[twopumpchump]

i'd like to test your rom too...i cant wait to have a finger-friendly rom!

[TheParadox]

Is there any winmob emulators I can test with before I release a build?

[TheParadox]

This is indeed a pain in the ass though im moving through this pretty fast.
Im including so far. All latest updated versions.
Skyfire
Opera
HTC Comm manager
Pointui home (Either this or manilla 2d)
Fingermenu
S2P
S2V
Latest Tom tom 7
Wizard_reTOUCHed_Dialer2

[blaker13]

Well i got two kaisers if you need help im in. Schap's rom wont be out for like another 6 months so one with 6.5 and awesome tweaks would be great... if you need any help let me know.

[TheParadox]

Alright. I might just compile what I have an upload for you guys to test. Remeber this is about as beta as it gets so proceed at your own risks.

[jorra]

That's finger friendly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq2CCAUlKU8

[WatermelonSlim]

That's finger friendly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq2CCAUlKU8
Yeah, that's SPB Mobile shell. I mentioned it earlier in this thread. It's the best interface out there at the moment. way better than Manilla, and it works properly in Landscape too. There are tons of skins you can install for it in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389106

I love it.

[k-semler]

Since you're taking suggestions, QuickMenu. I love this application, and it is the second application that I install on my phone when I change the ROM. Also of suggestion is File Explorer Extensions. It adds the missing extensions to Mobile Explorer. This is the very first application that I install when I change the ROM. Also, a shortcut to Field Test would be nice, and include TCPMP 0.71 RC1 recomp 03 along with all the plug ins.

[stylez]

Yeah, that's SPB Mobile shell. I mentioned it earlier in this thread. It's the best interface out there at the moment. way better than Manilla, and it works properly in Landscape too. There are tons of skins you can install for it in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389106

I love it.

Yes but it's not freeware so will contrary to the rules of XDA if placed and cooked into a ROM without a liscence.

If you want something simple finger friendly "Free" take a look @ Homescreen++ i'm sure you could make something very finger friendly and minimal :)

[TheParadox]

Unfortunately I don't think itd be a good idea to include a cracked copy of SPB Mobile shell. :rolleyes: I would rather get it as touch friendly natively without the major slowdown and ram usage if possible. What windows mobile emulator should I use that works with 64bit?

[WatermelonSlim]

SPB has a free trial download of Mobile Shell. It could be included and whoever installs it could either activate it or disable it from the today screen...

[stylez]

SPB has a free trial download of Mobile Shell. It could be included and whoever installs it could either activate it or disable it from the today screen...

Yeah kinda defeets the point of it as people can download it then, i'm thinking the OP want's to put together a finger friendly ROM, as previous post says Homescreen++ could be used and something minimal could be the homescreen.
Obviously up to the OP just expresing my thoughts.

[WatermelonSlim]

There is supposedly a new version of SPB Mobile Shell getting released next week at MWC anyway (and WM 6.5, and the Microsoft free over the air sync) so it might be better to wait until after all of those things are released before making any final decisions...

[TheParadox]

Thats fine im running into this compiling error right now o.0 Im guessing 64bit vista isnt very compatible with the cooking software or something....ughh

[mbarvian]

Thats fine im running into this compiling error right now o.0 Im guessing 64bit vista isnt very compatible with the cooking software or something....ughh

I'm running Vista and it works fine. What error are you getting?

[TheParadox]

Are you running vista 64bit? Once I select all the packages to include in the rom, after I hit go I get this "Error executing: Create_Rom_For_Kaiser.bat"

[mbarvian]

Are you running vista 64bit? Once I select all the packages to include in the rom, after I hit go I get this "Error executing: Create_Rom_For_Kaiser.bat"

which Kitchen are you using? it doesn't have to do with the OS, that's for sure

[TheParadox]

Well I do know that 64bit does run into alot of compatibility issues, I only run it do to the ammount of RAM Im using otherwise it wouldnt be utilized. Im using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441915. I think its a modified version of it though because it has some more features than alexs but same ui and whatnot.

[TheParadox]

Im just going to use alexs original cooking soft.

[WatermelonSlim]

Well I do know that 64bit does run into alot of compatibility issues, I only run it do to the ammount of RAM Im using otherwise it wouldnt be utilized. Im using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441915. I think its a modified version of it though because it has some more features than alexs but same ui and whatnot.
You can try the NATF kitchen if you want to try a different one. His ROMs were my favorite before he moved on to the Fuze:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443026

His ROMs were based off the AT&T ROM so they worked particularly well for AT&T users.

[TheParadox]

Thank you. =] If I cant get this working on will try that one.

[lufc]

public or private count me in will give it a whirl

[TheParadox]

Sure thing. Wish I could get the darn kitchen tool to work o.0 Then i could make more progress.

[TheParadox]

Boys we are in luck. I got it to work xD It must have been the other kitchen it was faulty or something. Alright ill spend rest of the night working on this! :D

[lufc]

rest of the night thats what i like commitment makes me want to help you hope its a good rom

[TheParadox]

Me too. Ive never done this before but I have a good amount of background knowledge of the windows structure. I keep hitting errors though. Thanks! I was just curious do you know how to choose what theme it uses?

[TheParadox]

Found the issue. The cab I converted to a package (Opera with the adblock) is corrupted or something doesnt work. ill figure that out later though.

[TheParadox]

Sorry guys. Looks like this is going to be postponed. Unfortunately my teacher decided to fail me on a project because my group decided to not give me credit for what I did, and parents decided to ground me from everything. (Also in a big fight with gf...meh :() Ill get back on my feet as soon as I can and I will deliver this project like I said.

[lufc]

its ok we all start some where look forward to your rom

[mbarvian]

Found the issue. The cab I converted to a package (Opera with the adblock) is corrupted or something doesnt work. ill figure that out later though.

Opera is particularly a tough one to cook into a ROM. Not only does it take up double the space than it does if you install it by a .cab, but the included tool in KaiserKitchen does not do a great job of turning it into an OEM Package. Which is why I use this excellent tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422942

just download it, put the .exe somewhere on your computer, drag the Opera .cab on TOP of the .exe file, and drop it. Then go into the OEM Package it creates and delete SETUPDLL.dll or SETUP.dll if there is one :)

sorry to hear about the gf and parents :(

[siddesh_0110]

hey i m gonna try this out on my phone.. will wait till u post ROM...!!!!!!

[TheParadox]

Snuck my laptop back during the late hours of the night 1am to 5am so I can work on this some more. I was making progress heh. Question. How do I set the settings for the rom and the registry? Nevermind found it xDDDDD

[TheParadox]

This thread has alot of crap on it starting new one...