TomTom 7.915 (9196) works on smartphones

[walram]

It seems that with this new build of TomTom 7 smartphones are supported now !!!

The problem with earlier releases was that you couldn't scroll down to select the second, third etc line. This now works. Great news. but...

I installed it on a HTC Tornado (qtek 8310) and it works fine. The problem on the S710 is again the backlight going off after a while. Dit anyone try this new version already and do you have the same problem with the backlight?

I know there was a program called Kahuna TTn6 Focufix.cab to keep the focus on the program. maybe this works? I will try to find this program and see if it helps. Maybe we have to modify the key HKCU\Control Panel\Power\Display again?

I hope some of you can help me find a sollution, so we all can use the newest TomTom version on our Vox !

[walram]

I found the TTn6 Focufix.cab, but this doesn't work.

I did find a workaround: I set the display time-out when on ac power to never. This works. So when I am in the car the battery is charged and the display stays on.

[Dom_LC]

I am using TomTom 7.915 since I install the custom ROM from fireburner.
This release works on S710 but with same limitation/problem, but you can select the different icon of the menu without any problem. The navigation can be vertical with the phone close, or horizontal if you have the keyboard open.
These are the Four main problem I have found, and the solution I have use to work around:

1. Backlight going off. When I am using it I plug the phone with the power supply, otherwise battery go away immediately after you arrive at destination or when you are close to it. I solve this problem in the "Settings"+"power Management", and select "never" in "Display time out on AC"

2. Backlight always on after use TomTom. I run an application free that you can download from http://www.tgmaker.com/mobile/

3. Input a destination. The two keyboard of the S710 works, but only with number when present. I means that with the number keyboard TomTom take only the numbers, and with the Qwerty will take the letter if they are alone and the numbers if on the key have both. Same problem was in Opera mini, and you can solve in the menu settings.

Sol. A
I solve this problem saving a contact with the address, and select the destination to contact.
Sol. B
You can browse all the city and the street, you must have a lot of time, or if you know the ZIP code the search became faster.
Sol. C
Fakecursor works but are more the disadvantage that the benefits. When you run it you can use only it, and all the shortcuts with the keyboard doesn't work. I prefer plan the destination and recall them after.

4. Selection: When in the display you have only two possibility there are no problem, but when they are more, the option in the middle are difficult to select. I have find the possibility to select using shift+same key, but I found it very uncomfortable.

Now a challenge to the expert!!
My colleagues use TomTom 7.915 on Experia X1, and you can select all the function using only the keyboard. I have seen also a Touch Pro working very fine with it. The two device have different layout (4 and 5 lines) and the software is working perfectly. I was thinking that most probably TomTom call some driver install on the device for the keyboard layout and allow the software to run properly. My device have a fb custom ROM, and I have a stupid idea which maybe work! If we save the driver of the S710 with the same name of the driver TomTom is looking for the layout keyboard, may be we can use both the keyboard.
I know is a strange idea, but I cannot test since I don't know which driver TomTom is looking for when start up.

Bye

[walram]

are you sure of number 2? I know that tomtom mobile 5 makes the reg key value HKCU\Control panel\Power\Display if it doesn't exist and set the value to 0 after closing tomtom. I don't think tomtom 7 has the same behaviour. Can you try removing the Display value and see if tomtom 7 creates it again.

number3: I didn't have this experience. I do use another rom. Maybe it has to do with enabling the T9 setting of the keyboard? I can use the number keyboard to make letters and select the right city and street.

number 4: good point. I hope somebody knows this

[walram]

did some more tests just to be sure:

1. problem is the display goes out after a while. workaround is to set the display timeout in the poweroptions to never when on ac power.

2. tomtom7 doesn't make the value Display after closing, so the ptoblem doesn't exist. (there may be other programs that cause this problem, but it is not related to tomtom7)

3. when using the number-keypad all works fine. when using the full-keyboard there is a problem with the keys also used for numbers (like E R T Y). you get numbers when pressing these keys... I like the idea of whanging the keyboard-layout/driver somehow...

4. I don't really understand what you mean. selecting what?

[commanderkeen]

I found the TTn6 Focufix.cab, but this doesn't work.

I did find a workaround: I set the display time-out when on ac power to never. This works. So when I am in the car the battery is charged and the display stays on.

TTn6 Focufix is to prevent Tomtom 6 to go back to today screen on smartphones after a while :)

[Dom_LC]

did some more tests just to be sure:

1. problem is the display goes out after a while. workaround is to set the display timeout in the poweroptions to never when on ac power.

2. tomtom7 doesn't make the value Display after closing, so the ptoblem doesn't exist. (there may be other programs that cause this problem, but it is not related to tomtom7)

3. when using the number-keypad all works fine. when using the full-keyboard there is a problem with the keys also used for numbers (like E R T Y). you get numbers when pressing these keys... I like the idea of whanging the keyboard-layout/driver somehow...

4. I don't really understand what you mean. selecting what?

Dear walram

I am sorry but I discover that I was running the TTN7.910.9185_vga_black for the Diamond.
I download the new version and I confirm that is working on S710.
1. Ok I have done the same
2. You are right for this point, no need tools for the backlight.
3. Number-keypad all works fine in this version, problem with the qwerty keyboard is still present.
4. In version 9196 the graphic is totally different, in not just a matter of resolution and I believe was developed for specific device. If you press center key pad 6+5 you can see the version of Tomtom , and you have 3 possibility
- copyrigth
- account
- done
I am not able to select Account.
During the installation I was not able to select the correct com port, since look like the cursor was not enable to move, or this version was designed for COM9. I copy the *.exe and *.chk file on the old installation and is fine.
I believe that this version take out from the lolite is the most suitable for the s710. Then finally for who love TomTom, at least they should try it, since interface is almost the same of 5.2 for SP and the overall function looks ok.
If I found bugs or problem I will post later in this section.
Bye

[walram]

i see what you mean with point 4. I don;t know a sollution for that, but i think you don't really need it for daily use. i could select the right com-port (com 6). installed it on 5 devices already, no problem.

the only bug i found so far is when starting the demo for a route the buttons are switched. so the "ok" and "cancel" are switched. just that you know...:D

it would be nice if somebody can fix the full-keyboard layout problem... it seems a problem with the s710?
it would also be nice if somebody can write a simple program that creates the registry key to keep the display on when the program is running, and delete the key when tomtom is closed. anybody?

[TheBo]

i could select the right com-port (com 6). installed it on 5 devices already, no problem.
I'm NOT a big fan of TOM TOM but I've tried for the first time to figure out this problem and so far I totally agree with Dom_LC

COM selection is locked IMHO. I've tried to edit navigator.cfg to use COM7.... DONE...but it was useless
then I tried to add COM9 to my Bluetooth outgoing ports...it was selectable but obviously the system was unable to create the port.
I tried also to mix data file with the exe to see wath's what ...useless.

Tried fakecursor and eCursor...they worked everywhere but in the COM selction MEnu.

[walram]

well, that's kind a strange isn't it? can you use the up and down-button when selecting a city and when selecting a road? are you using version 7.915 and not 7.910?

[TheBo]

Sure! and I'l tell you something more interesting also when composing the destination I can't scroll from the vorious suggestions that are indexed along when you are typing (the only that is always selected is the first in the list as for the COM ports)...so the only way is to write the exact name

[walram]

interesting. so maybe there are more versions of the 7.915 around? something to do with the rom?

anyway i can scroll from the vorious suggestions everywhere. Maybe i should send you my version and see what it does on your vox.
I had the following files:
ttn7.915.9196.qvga_black.cab
ttn7.915.9196.qvga_blue.cab
ttn7.915.9196.vga_black.cab

i installed the middle one.

a did find a bug, so it seems. How do you select a differect country when typing a city? On a PDA you can select the country on the right side of the screen. but how does it work on a smartphone? eg. I am from the netherlands and the only city's i can select are from the netherlands. In earlier versions of tomtom all city's of europe were in the same list. can anyone confirm this bug?

[Nirak]

Yep Walram, this bug is on my StarTrek too, TT started in Belgium for me and i had no clue how to change the country to Netherlands, so i navigated to one of my dutch contacts and that did the trick, so, maybe a bit odd, but you could add a fake contact in the country of your choice to end up over there.

Nevertheless....this is an inconvenient bug since it doesn't allow you to travel or plan through whole of Europe

[walram]

i wonder if the selection of country is in the map or in the application. eg. if we install an old map (version 7 or 6) do you get 1 list with all city's of europe?

so tomtom has some work to do again to fix this bug.

[walram]

if you remove the mapsettings.cfg in the map-directory before starting tomtom you get the question once to wich country you want to navigate :)
so, a little, workaround. you also loose your home adres and favoutites i guess...

but it works... just that you know

[Ierlanfdan]

well, that's kind a strange isn't it? can you use the up and down-button when selecting a city and when selecting a road? are you using version 7.915 and not 7.910?

I tried blue and black version. I think it was black wich did not let me select something with the up and down keys. So try both versions.

By the way installation failed every time on my Vox (Rose v.0.4)
So I extracted the files with win ce extractor, putted them on the root of the SD card and all went well.

[TheBo]

I tried blue and black version. I think it was black wich did not let me select something with the up and down keys. So try both versions.


I Can Confirm that! Smartphone users can take advantages ONLY from the blue one! And this ends my adventure with tom tom.

[surfboardcm]

i have a vox with original ROM (mobile 6) and i can't install the tomtom... it start the cab and suddenly stops and go back to home screen...
does anyone can help me... I've tried the qvga version black and the ttn7.915.9196.qvga_blue_cuckoo.cab. both do the same thing.... they start and suddendly stop...
the install bar doesn´t move, and the waiting color circle disappears and go back to home screen...

can you put here the link to the version you have for me to try??

thank you and sorry for my bad english....

[TheBo]

It's for PPC, you can't instaqll on a Smartphone, so you have to use this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3224919&postcount=776

[surfboardcm]

It's for PPC, you can't instaqll on a Smartphone, so you have to use this method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3224919&postcount=776

i try it but i can't copy the shortcut.... said i can't do it... any alternative method to copy it...

thank you...

[TheBo]

mmm it's not necessary "The Green stuff" mentioned in that post.

Once you decompress everything in the SD card just make a shotcut to your start menu.

/Windows/Start Menu

[surfboardcm]

mmm it's not necessary "The Green stuff" mentioned in that post.

Once you decompress everything in the SD card just make a shotcut to your start menu.

/Windows/Start Menu

thank you...

[walram]

yes, just extract the Tomtomnavigator.exe and the data.chk file and put them in a directory. create a shortcut in the startmenu and run it :)

to navigate to another country make a contact on your phone with a country and a fake place in the adress field. In tomtom select navigate to contact and tomtom will ask to correct the adress and you can type any place you want. make a contact for every country. voila.

[surfboardcm]

mmm it's not necessary "The Green stuff" mentioned in that post.

Once you decompress everything in the SD card just make a shotcut to your start menu.

/Windows/Start Menu

how can a make a shortcut in to the start menu???
I've tried and I'm not well successful...

[hashtowent]

how can a make a shortcut in to the start menu???
I've tried and I'm not well successful...

connect vox to pc open storage card(all via activesync!)

search your tomtom.exe copie it

go to /windows/Start Menu

there you paste the shortcut via rightclick pase shortcut (instead of paste).

afterwards rename it on vox same directory(start menu)!

works perfect for me

[rompa]

Hello.
Read your messages (this is my first post:) and can tell my situation:
phone htc s710, tt upgraded (over copied files .exe and data.chk) from installed 7.450.9028 to 7.915.9196, wm 6.1 clean rom 1.3.

Numeric keypad works as:
1. Street name enter (like sms: <2> - a;b;c;2;a;b;c;2;a...)
2. Numeric menu shortcut (1. Drive to... 2. Search another 3. Help me...)
3. Selector (*) ( ) shortcut (1- first, 2- second, 3- third...)

Navigator pad works:
1. In menu- all directions (left/right- prev/next page)
2. In selecting poi- only next/prev page (left/right)
does not work in selections like gps port (com1, com2)- can't go up and down (qwerty arrows to).

QWERTY keys totaly displaced, works only <enter>. <Shift> and <Fn> enters strange simbol like "i"

And this version does not have on screen keyboard, so can't use soft cursor.

So anybody knows how to select com port for gps?

[Dom_LC]

Hello.
Read your messages (this is my first post:) and can tell my situation:
phone htc s710, tt upgraded (over copied files .exe and data.chk) from installed 7.450.9028 to 7.915.9196, wm 6.1 clean rom 1.3.

Numeric keypad works as:
1. Street name enter (like sms: <2> - a;b;c;2;a;b;c;2;a...)
2. Numeric menu shortcut (1. Drive to... 2. Search another 3. Help me...)
3. Selector (*) ( ) shortcut (1- first, 2- second, 3- third...)

Navigator pad works:
1. In menu- all directions (left/right- prev/next page)
2. In selecting poi- only next/prev page (left/right)
does not work in selections like gps port (com1, com2)- can't go up and down (qwerty arrows to).

QWERTY keys totaly displaced, works only <enter>. <Shift> and <Fn> enters strange simbol like "i"

And this version does not have on screen keyboard, so can't use soft cursor.

So anybody knows how to select com port for gps?

I have done the same and I have got the same problem.
You should use *.exe and *.chk file from the ttn7.915.9196.qvga_blue.cab and all the problem are solved.
With the files from ttn7.915.9196.qvga_black.cab is not possible select the COM 6, or I was not able to do it.
Bye

[canadiancow]

When I install 7.915 on my HP iPAQ hw6955, it kills my system audio. I can't get sound from any application after. Uninstalling it does not fix it, but a hard reset does.

Any ideas? I'm stuck with 7.910 for now.

[walram]

this has nothing to do with this topic, but anyway: remove BtCoreIf.dll and BtSdkCE30.dll in the windows-dir and restart the device. problem solved.

the cabfile you use installs these files and kills the audio. it is a known problem.
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825531964825142534%3Acqr2sjirilw&q=btcoreif.dll&cof=FORID%3A0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

[canadiancow]

this has nothing to do with this topic, but anyway: remove BtCoreIf.dll and BtSdkCE30.dll in the windows-dir and restart the device. problem solved.

the cabfile you use installs these files and kills the audio. it is a known problem.
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825531964825142534%3Acqr2sjirilw&q=btcoreif.dll&cof=FORID%3A0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Thanks a lot :)

[hashtowent]

Thanks a lot :)

any solution for quertz/querty keyboard usage?

[harpoon255]

I have a problem to activate the map in S710. In the file ttnavigator.bif value uniquedeviceID =**********. There are no numbers or letters, only *. How can I find the uniquedeviceID?

Thanks

[fikrinasir]

I have a problem to activate the map in S710. In the file ttnavigator.bif value uniquedeviceID =**********. There are no numbers or letters, only *. How can I find the uniquedeviceID?

Thanks

did you open the file with notepad?

[elstcb]

I have a problem to activate the map in S710. In the file ttnavigator.bif value uniquedeviceID =**********. There are no numbers or letters, only *. How can I find the uniquedeviceID?

Thanks

I had exactly the same issue, your Vox isn't a vodafone v1415 by any chance is it? The TT blue mentioned here would load but would not find any maps (and even if it had I don't think they could have been activated).

I had considered upgrading my ROM for a while, the thought of an upgrade from TT6 made me take the plunge. I followed the guides on this forum to install the clean v1.4 WM6.1 rom from fireburned here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414416). The installation was very easy. My phone now has a proper device ID and TT7 works fine, that and I am loving the new ROM!

HTH,

Steve

[hans_1990]

i've got 7915**** finally working on my S710 (clean v1.4 WM6.1 Rom from fireburned), after manually extracting the cab file (the blue version). Installing the map of Western Europe (830***2306) was easy and it works like a charm.
I haven't found mayor glitches, only:

spacebar for entering destination is 0 instead of #
some difficulties selecting the middle option on the screen, in both screen modes (landscape and portrait)
as mentioned before, the keyboard isn't working like it should with numbers in text-mode
battery drains quickly with the use of tomtom, but i haven't experienced the backscreen-dim-problem while using tomtom
more annoying: tomtom exits occasionally due to memory shortage... anyone experienced the same?

[hashtowent]

i've got 7915**** finally working on my S710 (clean v1.4 WM6.1 Rom from fireburned), after manually extracting the cab file (the blue version). Installing the map of Western Europe (830***2306) was easy and it works like a charm.
I haven't found mayor glitches, only:

spacebar for entering destination is 0 instead of #
some difficulties selecting the middle option on the screen, in both screen modes (landscape and portrait)
as mentioned before, the keyboard isn't working like it should with numbers in text-mode
battery drains quickly with the use of tomtom, but i haven't experienced the backscreen-dim-problem while using tomtom
more annoying: tomtom exits occasionally due to memory shortage... anyone experienced the same?

i think batery drain is caused by bluetotth//is activated with tomtom and search continiously for gps reciver!

[egemenak]

I install tomtom 7.916 to my samsung omnia b7320 pro and tomtom and its maps correctly works but it couldn't find built in gps please help me how can solve I this problem :confused:

[wierni]

:) You cant; the vox doesnt has internal GPS... :p

[egemenak]

Is tat a joke:mad:

:) You cant; the vox doesnt has internal GPS... :p

[wierni]

No.
You are on the vox forum here, and the vox doesnt has internal GPS,
it needs an external bluetooth gps for TT. :o

[SweetthD3ViL]

Just a quick question,

how does Tomtom work on a Vox, does it use any internet connection?

Or does it just rely on the phone?

[egemenak]

But in my smartphone (samsung b7320 omnia pro) has internal Gps and I use it with route 66 and sygic v7.71 so I thşnk that it need an adjustment is any is anybody there that know it

No.
You are on the vox forum here, and the vox doesnt has internal GPS,
it needs an external bluetooth gps for TT. :o

[tobbbie]

Well, this is a VOX forum, so most people care for VOX related things here. There the GPS has to be connected via BT to the device. TomTom use onboard maps only - no need for internet connection.

TomTom does have an option to select the internal GPS afaik, did you try this on your Samsung and it cannot use it?

[m32]

It seems that with this new build of TomTom 7 smartphones are supported now !!!

go to TT inernal phorums - this makes any change to vox

[egemenak]

YEs absolutely like that

Well, this is a VOX forum, so most people care for VOX related things here. There the GPS has to be connected via BT to the device. TomTom use onboard maps only - no need for internet connection.

TomTom does have an option to select the internal GPS afaik, did you try this on your Samsung and it cannot use it?

[m32]

I am using TomTom 7.915 since I install the custom ROM from fireburner.
This release works on S710 but with same limitation/problem, but you can select the different icon of the menu without any problem. The navigation can be vertical with the phone close, or horizontal if you have the keyboard open.
These are the Four main problem I have found, and the solution I have use to work around:

1. Backlight going off. When I am using it I plug the phone with the power supply, otherwise battery go away immediately after you arrive at destination or when you are close to it. I solve this problem in the "Settings"+"power Management", and select "never" in "Display time out on AC"

2. Backlight always on after use TomTom. I run an application free that you can download from http://www.tgmaker.com/mobile/

3. Input a destination. The two keyboard of the S710 works, but only with number when present. I means that with the number keyboard TomTom take only the numbers, and with the Qwerty will take the letter if they are alone and the numbers if on the key have both. Same problem was in Opera mini, and you can solve in the menu settings.

Sol. A
I solve this problem saving a contact with the address, and select the destination to contact.
Sol. B
You can browse all the city and the street, you must have a lot of time, or if you know the ZIP code the search became faster.
Sol. C
Fakecursor works but are more the disadvantage that the benefits. When you run it you can use only it, and all the shortcuts with the keyboard doesn't work. I prefer plan the destination and recall them after.

4. Selection: When in the display you have only two possibility there are no problem, but when they are more, the option in the middle are difficult to select. I have find the possibility to select using shift+same key, but I found it very uncomfortable.

Now a challenge to the expert!!
My colleagues use TomTom 7.915 on Experia X1, and you can select all the function using only the keyboard. I have seen also a Touch Pro working very fine with it. The two device have different layout (4 and 5 lines) and the software is working perfectly. I was thinking that most probably TomTom call some driver install on the device for the keyboard layout and allow the software to run properly. My device have a fb custom ROM, and I have a stupid idea which maybe work! If we save the driver of the S710 with the same name of the driver TomTom is looking for the layout keyboard, may be we can use both the keyboard.
I know is a strange idea, but I cannot test since I don't know which driver TomTom is looking for when start up.

Bye

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