[16-06-2009] Max's Neon ROM Test (WM6.5 Build 21500) [Archive]

maximus007

13th February 2009, 04:30 AM

Massive thanks to jerpelea (wouldn't have gotten anywhere close without him).

I'm back! This new version is based on the fantastic Insomnia NIKI Kitchen, using WM6.5 Build 21500 and OEM Iolite/mishmash. As I made this version for my personal use, it is FULL of applications - if you don't like applications installed from the start, don't download it!

Warning: This ROM is for testing only and has been prepared by a complete cooking noob (me). I cannot guarantee any results for you or your phone and this may end up screwing things up COMPLETELY :). Install at your own risk.

Having said that, it works very well on my NEON200 (Touch Dual 850), much better than any other ROM I have tried and even better than the old 6.1 version.

Make sure you have installed the Neon Hardspl (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377260) (thanks Olipro) before you even remotely consider installing this.

Known Issues:
- DEVICE ID Reports as NIKI100 (I am still trying to figure out the XIP stuff)
- The camera hardware button does not work
- The camera autofocus doesn't work properly (messed up the some of the files I copied I think) so it takes a few seconds to shoot.
- Hardware keyboard doesn't work properly. It thinks that it is a 16key version.

Anyway, give it a go if you are game and let me know how it goes. It is a hundred times more finger friendly than the WM6.1 ROMs (which is the whole point of the touch phones).

I only do this in my *very* spare time, so I'm sorry in advance if I don't update often. I can say that I am very happy with the ROM as it is (never use the keyboard or camera), so it may be quite while before I update.

Download the new WM6.5 ROM here (http://rapidshare.com/files/245073010/MaxROM_6.5.zip).

Old version (WM6.1 Build 21109) can be downloaded here (http://rapidshare.com/files/197449155/MaxROM.zip) if you want it for some reason.

ajb303

14th February 2009, 02:25 AM

Well done, looks nice. Everything works. Camera is good, text works, after calling t-mobile internet connects. Reception is fine, battery does not get hot. :D Although, instead of having a box with an x in the middle of it at far right corner, i have just an x. It takes a little more effort closing out of an application. Good job again.

maximus007

14th February 2009, 02:42 AM

ajb303

14th February 2009, 02:59 AM

Great stuff.

Are you having any other issues? Does the keyboard work 100%?

I was just about to edit my post :) Keyboard does not work at any time. Also when recieving a voicemail, i tap and trys to connect. But says that phone call cannot be made at this time.

maximus007

14th February 2009, 08:45 AM

I've had no issues with voicemail...

Have you tried installing the latest Ezinput from the first post? Do you have 20-key device?

ajb303

14th February 2009, 09:27 AM

Perhapsthe Voicemailis something i need to set up with T-mobile.Yep, got the touch keyboard working with the install:) No keypad though.

Edit: Yes, camera button does not work.

TheDudeOfLife

15th February 2009, 03:13 AM

I'm gonna load it up now and give it a shot.

TheDudeOfLife

16th February 2009, 12:00 AM

I can't find the SIP task in task manager to kill it before installing the .cab.

Also can't get online because it is configured for Telestra (I imagine I can fix that easily). The "Setup Connection" app in settings closes immediately. That is how I used to setup my internet/phone provider stuffs.

Edits.
Ok...oddly enough after I updated my internet settings the 'task manager' and a few other apps showed up. That allowed me to kill the SIP and load the keyboard.

Overall this ROM is fast! Very happy with it so far. Can't wait till it is finished.

PS - I can't use my hardware keyboard either. Even with the SIP update. On screen works perfect.

mafirst

16th February 2009, 12:36 AM

I have NEON300 US version. If I decide to upgrade, can I reset back to factor default? Or is once upgrade, no turning back? I have Build 19209.1.0.2 version now on my phone.

TheDudeOfLife

16th February 2009, 01:08 AM

I have NEON300 US version. If I decide to upgrade, can I reset back to factor default? Or is once upgrade, no turning back? I have Build 19209.1.0.2 version now on my phone.

I haven't found a packaged default ROM. You might wanna see if he releases one once he gets this build worked out. I would love to get a copy of your default rom before you upgrade it. I think I lost mine 2 laptops ago. Once you load the HardSPL you can go back, however you need the default ROM to do so. There isn't a backup / restore utility as far as I know.

ajb303

16th February 2009, 03:01 AM

I have NEON300 US version. If I decide to upgrade, can I reset back to factor default? Or is once upgrade, no turning back? I have Build 19209.1.0.2 version now on my phone.

wait! haha, before you do can you dump your stock rom? That would be very useful:)

mafirst

16th February 2009, 04:14 AM

I'm new to this site. How do I get my ROM backup?

TheDudeOfLife

16th February 2009, 07:17 AM

I'm new to this site. How do I get my ROM backup?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2254400&postcount=7

Let me know if you need help with this.

big papa rich

17th February 2009, 10:40 PM

ajb303

18th February 2009, 12:31 AM

I havn't been able to figure out how to change the voicemail number from the Telestra default, but if you dial "123" with a T-Mobile sim card, it will send you to your voicemail account. Just a little tip I thought might help.

Interesting, I didn't know that. I thought it was just an issue I had to call t-mobile about. Thanks

big papa rich

18th February 2009, 01:26 AM

I have een having issues with SMS. When I try to send a text, I get an error message saying that my message can not be sent, that I need to subscribe to the service. I flashed back to Seths V2 rom and every thing worked fine. Any ideas?

BTW, don't know if any one needs it, but here is a cab that works great for reconfiguring internet stuff for T-Mobile or AT&T

I Just found this link. Says it is for the Neon 200 US, but my device still says 300. Any how, looks exactly like the Ship Rom as I remember it.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395384

rling

18th February 2009, 04:53 AM

- DEVICE ID Reports as NIKI100 (I am still trying to figure out the XIP stuff)

You can change it by editing:
1) Modelname.txt in OEM/OperatorPkg
2) nbhgen.txt in Tools/Htools

maximus007

18th February 2009, 01:41 PM

I've Changed nbhgen.txt to NEON200 and a different version number, but when I flash it still says NIKI100 and the old version number. I have also changed the CID in OS.nb.payload, still no luck.

rling

18th February 2009, 02:05 PM

I've Changed nbhgen.txt to NEON200 and a different version number, but when I flash it still says NIKI100 and the old version number. I have also changed the CID in OS.nb.payload, still no luck.
Change the name in modelname.txt in oem/operatorpkg

Also change mixupdate_oemversion_100.provxml in same folder.

os.nb.payload content will get overwritten when the ROM is built.

maximus007

19th February 2009, 12:30 AM

Thanks for mixupdate_oemversion_100.provxml - that has the version info in it (also edited easily via registry). It was missing from my kitchen.

modelname.txt simply has "Touch Dual" (which is OK) in it. That file doesn't let me change NIKI100 to NEON200.

If you check my .nbh in a hex editor it displays "NEON200", yet upon flashing it still displays the device as NIKI100...

TheDudeOfLife

24th February 2009, 05:06 AM

How's this coming along?

defect

1st March 2009, 04:06 AM

Hey,

I've been using this ROM for that past few days and its been working a treat!
Few minor tweaks to get things how I like it (IE. battery).
But other than that works really well and fast!

Would like to know when you get the camera button working.
Wouldnt also mind playing with the kitchen when its avaliable :)

Keep up the good work!

ajb303

1st March 2009, 07:56 AM

Suppose i wanted to use a new skin for the M2D, and suppose I applied it and nothing showed up different than the original skin lol :D Will new skins not work becuase this M2D is cooked into the rom?

big papa rich

2nd March 2009, 07:55 PM

Suppose i wanted to use a new skin for the M2D, and suppose I applied it and nothing showed up different than the original skin lol :D Will new skins not work becuase this M2D is cooked into the rom?

I used the most up to date M2D Customizer, and ran into a couple of strange problems. I was able to chsnge the skin, but if I tried to remove the analog clock, it bunched the digital numbers into the lower right corner. Weird, huh.

defect

3rd March 2009, 12:28 PM

M2D Customizer works fine for me. I've tried a few skins and havent had any problems.

The other thing i've noticed is my battery life has gone down.
I used to run Lighter V3 and I got alot more out of it. now its lucky to last the day with hardly any use.

I have bluetooth and wifi disabled and just using direct push.

rydog2020

6th March 2009, 03:42 PM

The battery life is the result of the HSDPA enabled radio. If you disable HSDPA you'll get better battery life. I've been using this ROM for about a week now and I'm very happy with its stability.

rydog2020

7th March 2009, 05:52 AM

to change your voice mail number go to setting-->phone--->services tab. Select "voice mail and text messages" and hit the "get settings..." button. you can enter your vm number there.

big papa rich

7th March 2009, 09:35 AM

to change your voice mail number go to setting-->phone--->services tab. Select "voice mail and text messages" and hit the "get settings..." button. you can enter your vm number there.

I have a flex pay account with T-Mobile, it's kinda like the pick your plan go phone from AT&T. They won't let me change those settings. kinda stupid, but it's their policy since there is no contract.

rydog2020

8th March 2009, 04:45 PM

My slide out keyboard seem to have number lock enabled. When I try to type a text message I get numbers instead of letters. Does anyone know how I can disable this?

ajb303

8th March 2009, 07:47 PM

My slide out keyboard seem to have number lock enabled. When I try to type a text message I get numbers instead of letters. Does anyone know how I can disable this?

Max is currently working for a fix on this. :)

rydog2020

12th March 2009, 03:46 AM

I have a workaround for the keyboard issue. Repeatedly hit any of letter/number keys as the phone is booting up. Once Touchflo starts you'll see that the letter option are functional.

big papa rich

17th March 2009, 07:25 PM

Is Max still working on this? I have not seen an update in quite a while.

rydog2020

27th March 2009, 04:29 AM

Max thus far this has been my favorite rom. I really hope you continue to make it better. I've noticed that over the course of a few weeks that my phone slows down until I have to clear my sms' folder every few messages. Is anyone else seeing this issue?

maximus007

16th June 2009, 09:25 AM

See the update in post #1

stbuckley

17th June 2009, 06:53 PM

Nice ROM, especially glad to see people working with NEON. I'm really just posting this so I can get email alerted when there is an update.

big papa rich

18th June 2009, 09:41 AM

Wow, Max! Great ROM! Absolutely beautiful!

maximus007

18th June 2009, 09:50 AM

Thanks, glad you like it.

Any issues other than the ones I mentioned? I may get some time late next week to sort out those ones.

big papa rich

18th June 2009, 07:59 PM

Thanks, glad you like it.

Any issues other than the ones I mentioned? I may get some time late next week to sort out those ones.

One thing I did notice, is with Bluetooth. I can pair it to my head set, but I don't get any sound. When I turn bluetooth off, I still get the problem with the hand set. I have to do a soft re-set, and then it works fine (until I turn bluetooth on). I should mention that I did some tweaking with Advance Config for the bluetooth settings before I paired the head set, so maybe that had something to do with it. I am going to re-flash the ROM and try pairing again without playing with the settings to see if it was something that I did (most likely culprit).

I will post the results as soon as I know. It may not be until later today, but I wont forget. If I can't build my own ROM, at least I can help identify problems to make others better.

big papa rich

19th June 2009, 03:16 AM

Nope, made no difference. Audio does not seem to work.

ajb303

23rd June 2009, 08:08 PM

I love it. For once, im in a dilemma between M2D or 6.5 lol. I apologize if the glitches I am about to post have already been touched. Im on my phone browser and at work, trying to hurry up.
Hardware:
-Camera button not functional
-Keyboard (both of these were an issue on your first rom)

Phone:
-I get a contacts glitch when scrolling down. All the entries get meshed together. Ill post a screen shot later.
- I use an extracted build of Opera Mini from one of the older M2D packs. Im having some problems pulling up the browser at times taking a few taps on my favorites tab. Whereas on your first rom I was having no problems at all.
-Im getting a weird buzz when I make a phone call. Increases when I talk.
-Doesn't seem like the battery life is as long .

Regardless, your roms are my favorite to use. Fast, stable and somewhat light : ) Hope this helps.

exekias

4th July 2009, 05:22 AM

wow this rom is spectacular, thank you, i look forward to your updates!
biggest hope is the harware keyboard but ill take anything
cheers

columnbreak

19th July 2009, 08:43 AM

Thanks for making this build, maximus007! Gives us who have HTC Touch Duals with Neon ROMs a great peek into Windows Mobile 6.5. As others have said, a couple things that would be great to have are:

Having the camera button work.
Having the front-facing camera work.
Having more themes that use the newer Windows Mobile 6.5 menu skin--only the Classic theme has the newer UI.
Having the 20-key keyboard work.

Also, would it be possible to have a version without all of the extra applications in it? The phone tends to lag a little after the apps that i use are also installed.

It's really a nice ROM, and I'm glad I have it to play around with. :)

big papa rich

28th July 2009, 08:55 PM

Hey Max, are you still working on this? just wondering...

ajb303

1st September 2009, 09:22 PM

Me wishes Max would update : )

big papa rich

2nd September 2009, 08:11 AM

Me wishes Max would update : )

LOL, me too. The only problems I have had are battery drain and blue tooth. All of the other little issues I can live with.

ajb303

2nd September 2009, 09:58 PM

The battery life is what kills me. Everything is fine with me : ) Although, NRG's Warhawk theme would look amazing on the next Neon rom *wink wink :)

imcmaugh

3rd September 2009, 07:50 AM

I can live with the camera not working, but issues with the keyboard or bluetooth would be a pain.

Has anyone loaded this up on a 20 key neon, and can they say what type of problems they are having?

big papa rich

3rd September 2009, 07:56 AM

I can live with the camera not working, but issues with the keyboard or bluetooth would be a pain.

Has anyone loaded this up on a 20 key neon, and can they say what type of problems they are having?

I have the 20 key neon, and when I try to pair blue tooth, it seems to mute the speaker. The Keyboard is really weird, some of the buttons work, such as the "AS" button, which opens the start menu.

gutterheart

8th September 2009, 08:47 AM

It is nice to have a 6.5 ROM for the Neon.
I can live without the Camera Button and the Keyboard.
Still to decide if I can live without Bluetooth. (I have the mute issue....)
Any chance of a kitchen release so that we can try and fix up some of this?

Gutter.

rxsoob

22nd September 2009, 04:46 AM

Thankyou so much.. has breathed some much needed life into my TouchDual 850

gemidriver

22nd September 2009, 05:46 AM

i cannot get the alphabetical characters to work ont the 20 key keypad when composing sms.
any updates on this?

Cheers

ajb303

22nd September 2009, 04:37 PM

i cannot get the alphabetical characters to work ont the 20 key keypad when composing sms.
any updates on this?

Cheers

Not as of yet, sorry :( Someone posted a workaround, I haven't tried it myself though.

valheru

12th October 2009, 04:06 AM

I just posted in Max's other thread which leads to this one that I am just finishing extracting Parts 0 through 3 of a factory Neon 300 WM6.1 and can post if anyone likes.

aignome

29th October 2009, 03:00 AM

I wouldn't mind trying it. I am about to update my neon200 (dual 850) with this rom, but the mrs really likes using the keypad (20key) so kind of need that to work.

trjons

1st November 2009, 11:34 PM

Is 20 key working now with this ROM?

big papa rich

2nd November 2009, 09:34 PM

Is 20 key working now with this ROM?

No, it isn't. Doesn't look like there will be any updates either, unless some one else takes it. Which I hope someone does.:(

zavalem

15th November 2009, 09:00 PM

I installed this ROM in my NEON 300 and it is great, but I have issues and are as follow:
1. Keyboard is for 16Keys and I need 20Keys.
2. Front camera does not works.
3. Camera right bottom does not works.
4. Volume up/down bottoms are allocate to other functions.
Besides those small issues I really love this ROM, hope you could address them. Thank you:):):):)

zavalem

15th November 2009, 09:47 PM