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yipcanjo
23rd February 2009, 06:12 PM
First of all, thanks to everyone who helps makes this forum so great. I visit a lot of forums for various things, but this is one of the best! :)

Anyhow, I've been a Dash user since Nov 2006. Although the WM5 that was shipping at the time leaved a bit to be desired, the form factor of these phones really impressed me. In fact, I've seen a lot of newer WM phones that are still nowhere near as good as the Dash! The WM6 upgrade was a good one, but these phones really hit their stride with the WM6.1 release(s) -- found at this site, of course. I eventually even blogged my own "upgrade your Dash to WM6.1 (http://yipcanjo.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/upgrade-your-t-mobile-dash-to-windows-mobile-61/)" post, which has been fairly popular. In December 2008, though, I decided to move on the G1 phone... assuming that newer was better.

Boy was I wrong. :mad:

I won't get into all of the details, but after 2 months with the G1, I was finding that many *simple* things were considerably more difficult on the G1 than on the Dash (http://yipcanjo.wordpress.com/2009/02/18/more-thoughts-on-the-g1-phone-software/).

I decided to give the Dash a look-see again.

So, I'm back in "Dash"-land using the Rose 1.4 ROM. Wow! I am really amazed at how "out of the box" useful these new ROMs are!! Especially compared to the stock T-Mobile WM6 ROMs, which leave these phones feeling ugly and less useful. The keyboard was immediately wayyyy better than the G1, and I'm back to being able to call people with 2 or 3 clicks, rather than 6 or 7. Aside from the browser interface, I'm really not missing the G1 at all. :p

A few questions, though...

- My Rose 1.4 ROM has some very nice, colorful icons for the wireless signal, battery, bluetooth and so forth, but they go away when I'm on other screens. Is that typical? Anyway to have the "improved" icons show up everywhere??

- My previous WM6.1 ROM had poor radio reception, for whatever reason, and this ROM is much nicer. Is it expected that some ROMs ship with a better radio module than others?

- I've always turned the JOGGR off due to face-bumping-the-volume up and down issues, but this ROM has helped that a bit. Nice! Is there any way, though, to assign the up-and-down volume control (while in a call) to the up-and-down D-pad? Seems an obvious choice to me.

- Are there any replacements for the stock camera software on these phones? The interface drives me crazy.

- Is it possible to turn off the default "beep" sound when you place a phone call?

- I've noticed that I only hear the phone ring twice or so before it goes to voicemail, but I was used to hearing 3 or 4 rings. Any way to change that?

Ok. That's all I have for now, I guess. :rolleyes:

Thanks!

Yip

1Airborne1
23rd February 2009, 08:57 PM
"Is it possible to turn off the default "beep" sound when you place a phone call?"

yup go to profiles- normal (or whatever one ur on)- edit- scroll down and put system volume to off. thats it i think

NRGZ28
24th February 2009, 06:09 PM
First of all, thanks to everyone who helps makes this forum so great. I visit a lot of forums for various things, but this is one of the best! :)

Anyhow, I've been a Dash user since Nov 2006. Although the WM5 that was shipping at the time leaved a bit to be desired, the form factor of these phones really impressed me. In fact, I've seen a lot of newer WM phones that are still nowhere near as good as the Dash! The WM6 upgrade was a good one, but these phones really hit their stride with the WM6.1 release(s) -- found at this site, of course. I eventually even blogged my own "upgrade your Dash to WM6.1 (http://yipcanjo.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/upgrade-your-t-mobile-dash-to-windows-mobile-61/)" post, which has been fairly popular. In December 2008, though, I decided to move on the G1 phone... assuming that newer was better.

Boy was I wrong. :mad:

I won't get into all of the details, but after 2 months with the G1, I was finding that many *simple* things were considerably more difficult on the G1 than on the Dash (http://yipcanjo.wordpress.com/2009/02/18/more-thoughts-on-the-g1-phone-software/).

I decided to give the Dash a look-see again.

So, I'm back in "Dash"-land using the Rose 1.4 ROM. Wow! I am really amazed at how "out of the box" useful these new ROMs are!! Especially compared to the stock T-Mobile WM6 ROMs, which leave these phones feeling ugly and less useful. The keyboard was immediately wayyyy better than the G1, and I'm back to being able to call people with 2 or 3 clicks, rather than 6 or 7. Aside from the browser interface, I'm really not missing the G1 at all. :p

A few questions, though...

- My Rose 1.4 ROM has some very nice, colorful icons for the wireless signal, battery, bluetooth and so forth, but they go away when I'm on other screens. Is that typical? Anyway to have the "improved" icons show up everywhere??

- My previous WM6.1 ROM had poor radio reception, for whatever reason, and this ROM is much nicer. Is it expected that some ROMs ship with a better radio module than others?

- I've always turned the JOGGR off due to face-bumping-the-volume up and down issues, but this ROM has helped that a bit. Nice! Is there any way, though, to assign the up-and-down volume control (while in a call) to the up-and-down D-pad? Seems an obvious choice to me.

- Are there any replacements for the stock camera software on these phones? The interface drives me crazy.

- Is it possible to turn off the default "beep" sound when you place a phone call?

- I've noticed that I only hear the phone ring twice or so before it goes to voicemail, but I was used to hearing 3 or 4 rings. Any way to change that?

Ok. That's all I have for now, I guess. :rolleyes:

Thanks!

Yip


- The improved icons are only going to show on the homescreen. The other icons are part of system dll's and have to be edited "in" before they'll show up. I don't think anybody's attempted to skin those on a smartphone yet, but *I* will try soon.

- The ROM doesn't include a radio.... it's either your wishful thinking, or... you just get better reception somehow.

- Don't know of a way to assign the dpad to change the volume. I'm sure it would require some custom programming which is.. above my head :)

- Don't think there's any camera shell replacements. Sorry...

- Look for a registry key called "Callstart" (in the registry! lol) and remove the associated .wav or .mid in that key :)

- There might be a "ringdelay" key in the registry. If you find one, set it to 5 to remove the delay. If not, try going into the Phone settings and somewhere in there in "services" you should be able set how many times it rings before it goes to voicemail. This is really an "operator setting", but you can try to change it this way.




"Is it possible to turn off the default "beep" sound when you place a phone call?"

yup go to profiles- normal (or whatever one ur on)- edit- scroll down and put system volume to off. thats it i think

What ?!? You're telling him to turn down the volume to get rid of the sound ? :confused::confused::rolleyes:

yipcanjo
24th February 2009, 08:37 PM
Thanks for the reply, NRG! I really dig your 1.4 ROM. Thx! :)

Anyhow, I got the "radio" idea from the NRG 1.7 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444276) page, as they mention a newer "radio" code. Not true?