[05-Mar-09] Welcome to the EzInput 2.0 Keyboard Suite project

[DupinBJK]

Welcome to the EzInput 2.0 Keyboard Suite project.

Ok, the time has come.
HTC has rushed to prepare a pre-release of its EzInput 2.0 technology just in time for the MWC in Barcelona, and we have it here ready for our tweaks, hacks and workarounds.

These are the new layouts - only Phone Keypad and Full Qwerty, this time.

http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/DupinBJK/Ez2_Portrait_small.png

http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/DupinBJK/Ez2_Landscape_small.png


The first WVGA Beta cabs are ready for download, but beware, this is just for experienced users only.

As you'll see, the known issues are a bit annoying, especially if compared to what we're accustomed to with the 1.5 release.
But that said, the huge use of .xml configuration files will probably mean a quite easily customizable experience for all the known form factors.

Update:
Updated files have come out, with a few improvements that need to be checked out. Time for Beta 2. :)
Take a look !


Downloads - WWE only


WVGA

FullKdb (http://www.4shared.com/file/91264776/6457461/BJK_HTC_EzInput2_WVGA_FullKbd_0409-B2.html) - Phones with Full Keyboard (Nokbd customization will come later, but the cab will work even on NoKbd phones)

[DupinBJK]

Known Issues


Availability of Keypad Layout.
The Keypad layout is available and working, but not selectable using the settings or the old Input Panel.
To select it, you have to use the new SipMenu, included in cab B1.1 and above.

Only the newer phones from HTC can use the SipMenu (Elfin, Diamond, Raphael, Opal, Jade, Blackstone, Iolite).

The layout can be forced - in Portrait mode - using the registry.


Languages Availability and Selection.
Not all languages are available on the pre-release rom.
The Beta2 cab includes English, German, French, Italian and Spanish.
There's no way to select them using the standard Input Panel.
To select it, you have to use the new SipMenu, included in cab B1.1 and above.

Only the newer phones from HTC can use the SipMenu (Elfin, Diamond, Raphael, Opal, Jade, Blackstone, Iolite).

The old Language Packs made for V1.5 are *NOT* compatible with V2.0.

The main language can be forced through a registry setting.

[DupinBJK]

Changelog

21-Feb-09: Beta2

Second release.
New Sources.

26-Feb-09: Beta1.4

Replaced HTCSipSrvc.dll.

25-Feb-09: Beta1.3

Solved the space issue.
Removed an extra Tegic setting (coming from V1.5 customizations) that was causing it.

23-Feb-09: Beta1.2

Added tick.wav sound file.

23-Feb-09: Beta1.1

Added the new SipMenu.
Updated the PQSym_Bg_Inv.png file.

21-Feb-09: Beta1

First release.

[DupinBJK]

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[conflipper]

9 placeholders? haha let me know if you need anything.

[DupinBJK]

9 placeholders? haha let me know if you need anything.

Well, it's just to avoid keeping buzzing around Noonski to ask for a new slot every once in a while... :D

[herg62123]

i am ready. lets git-r-done.

[GSLEON3]

What a tease. LOL

[conflipper]

Looks great. Installed on Touch Pro and everything worked fine.

In Landscape mode the right hand side is cut off. but not a big deal. Thank you a lot of this, your hard work and for sharing.

[totalcmdext]

Do you mean that WVGA version works in VGA screen without problem

[conflipper]

It will work, just the right side of the keyboard is cut off while in landscape mode. but when that is the case you have the keyboard slide out anyways.

On Diamond or in Portrait It works fine. no cut off at all.

[CRACING]

Hello,

Great work DupinBJK. Keep it up......

I was more happy, if I was having vga or wvga devices. Anyway cannot wait for qvga.:)

Thanks and Regrads

[rjmjr69]

AWESOME I have so been waiting for an update. "As you know DB lol Thanks" SOrry for being impatient hope all works well soon. I know COn is helping it will be done soon and will work flawlessly

thanks again

[DupinBJK]

Looks great. Installed on Touch Pro and everything worked fine.

In Landscape mode the right hand side is cut off. but not a big deal. Thank you a lot of this, your hard work and for sharing.

Well, everything seems a bit too much, I have a few issues with the landscape mode on the emulator... when I type on the leftmost or rightmost keys nothing happens.

Isn't it the same for you ?

And anyway, for the form factor: take a look at the xml files - the coordinates and the key codes are no longer inside the .dll, but in an editable file !!

This means that (although it might not be so fully customizable at this stage) we could begin working on a VGA version right now ! :D

[DupinBJK]

It will work, just the right side of the keyboard is cut off while in landscape mode. but when that is the case you have the keyboard slide out anyways.

On Diamond or in Portrait It works fine. no cut off at all.

In Portrait, are you able to bring the Keypad up ? (I guess nobody has still read the Known Issues ;))...

[DupinBJK]

Hello,

Great work DupinBJK. Keep it up......

I was more happy, if I was having vga or wvga devices. Anyway cannot wait for qvga.:)

Thanks and Regrads

Well, look at the files... there's a big chance we can start the conversion right now...

[DupinBJK]

safe to remove

[yozgatg]

there is no half-QWERTY on the new diamond 2??
also will it be possible to remove the arrows at the bottom (for the VGA version ofcourse)?
anyways keep up the good work

[conflipper]

Hmmm.......... I am able to change my keyboard using the old menu. however I just get the qwerty, I am not able to select anything else. I will continue to work on this.

I am trying to get it to cook into a rom. but i cant quite get it to work yet.

[CRACING]

Well, look at the files... there's a big chance we can start the conversion right now...

Ok, I will check out the files and will try to port.........:)

Edit: seems that, PQSym_Bg_Inv file is damaged:( is there any alt....

[DupinBJK]

there is no half-QWERTY on the new diamond 2??
also will it be possible to remove the arrows at the bottom (for the VGA version ofcourse)?
anyways keep up the good work

No, at this stage, no Compact Qwerty is available. Let's hope HTC will change its mind for the released version.

Changing the size of the rectangular area will require a code patching, a thing that we'll have to do for the QVGA layout, but that should be necessary just for Landscape under VGA. For the key coordinates, the xml files should be enough...

[DupinBJK]

Hmmm.......... I am able to change my keyboard using the old menu. however I just get the qwerty, I am not able to select anything else. I will continue to work on this.

I am trying to get it to cook into a rom. but i cant quite get it to work yet.

To force it with the registry:


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\ezsip]

"CurrentSIP"=dword:a00


I wonder if it should auto-detect the foreground application and change layout accordingly... it would be nice to have a setting panel to assign a different layout to each editing application. HTC ??

I will create a wish list on the first page... :)

[DupinBJK]

Ok, I will check out the files and will try to port.........:)

Edit: seems that, PQSym_Bg_Inv file is damaged:( is there any alt....

Yes, I see. I don't have a better version, though. We'll have to make it from scratch using the P12 file...

[rjmjr69]

Hmmm.......... I am able to change my keyboard using the old menu. however I just get the qwerty, I am not able to select anything else. I will continue to work on this.

I am trying to get it to cook into a rom. but i cant quite get it to work yet.
i had troubles getting the last version to cook in i jusuallly do it as a cab and when doing it that way you have to kill service sipgt when i try doing oem only a portion of the main app would install t9 etc

[CRACING]

Yes, I see. I don't have a better version, though. We'll have to make it from scratch using the P12 file...

Its ok. Now I am resizing all the png's using photoshop. Is this the correct way?

I am resizing all images by 50%. Any suggestion?

Thanks and Regards

[DupinBJK]

Its ok. Now I am resizing all the png's using photoshop. Is this the correct way?

I am resizing all images by 50%. Any suggestion?

Thanks and Regards

There are better image resizer around, but photoshop is ok.
50% will give us a quite big keyboard, for VGA, but since the code will need to be patched, it will be a good start. We have to investigate the format used in the .xml files, though...

If you manage to rebuild the cripped file, can you post it here ? I'll add it to the cabs...

Thanks ! :)

[CRACING]

There are better image resizer around, but photoshop is ok.
50% will give us a quite big keyboard, for VGA, but since the code will need to be patched, it will be a good start. We have to investigate the format used in the .xml files, though...

If you manage to rebuild the cripped file, can you post it here ? I'll add it to the cabs...

Thanks ! :)
Oh, I haven't seen that xml file:(. Anyway, there are many image to be resized so more work:).

I think I cannot make that cripped file so I skiped that...... Will try later.

Edit: Problem found - after resizing LTel_Bg_Inv.png by 50% half, The image size became 400x89 but our qvga size will be 320:confused:. In portrait images its correct but only problem is with landscape images. May be it is because wvga images.:(

what shoud do now?

[PurPLe SKy]

Will be released a WQVGA version ?

[DupinBJK]

Will be released a WQVGA version ?

This is just a repository, and we've just started. The chances for release for any form factor depend on the volunteers... :)

[PurPLe SKy]

This is just a repository, and we've just started. The chances for release for any form factor depend on the volunteers... :)
OK. I hope it will be released, i love this keyboard.

[CRACING]

untill now, I was able to convert Landscape and Portrait images to qvga so still there are some files to be converted.

Part 1 is here : Link (http://www.4shared.com/file/88921293/1fcc8cf7/Ezinput2_qvga_part1.html)

BTW;

Resized Landscape images by 40%
Resized Portrait images by 50%

PQSym_Bg_Inv.png image/file is damaged so I left it.

So what % should I resize of other images/files. confusing:confused:

Edit: OK, I have redesigned the damaged file. I think its the good image at present, untill getting original one. I have also tested in Emulator and its working prefect. File is attached below.

Thanks and regards

[Dominic83]

yeahh wqvga would be great for all the omnia users :)

[cursor]

nice.

tried on my X1 but it still (like previous version) disables the àü and fn key of the hardware keyboard :_(

[magicalan]

i tried it on my vogue htc touch by sprint and its all big i can't really do anithing :confused:

[blutz]

The Full Qwerty keyboard is too big for diamond screen,
so i got rid of the soft-arrows on the bottom, which are pointless coz diamond have hardware arrows.

Enjoy (http://rapidshare.com/files/201270557/HTC_EzInput2_Diamond_VGA_NoKbd_0409-B1.cab)

[DupinBJK]

untill now, I was able to convert Landscape and Portrait images to qvga so still there are some files to be converted.

Part 1 is here : Link (http://www.4shared.com/file/88921293/1fcc8cf7/Ezinput2_qvga_part1.html)

BTW;

Resized Landscape images by 40%
Resized Portrait images by 50%

PQSym_Bg_Inv.png image/file is damaged so I left it.

So what % should I resize of other images/files. confusing:confused:

Edit: OK, I have redesigned the damaged file. I think its the good image at present, untill getting original one. I have also tested in Emulator and its working prefect. File is attached below.

Thanks and regards

Thanks a lot ! I'll take a look later today.
For the landscape reduction the percentage will have to be different, both for VGA and QVGA. At the moment, to ease the conversion issues that we might encounter, I'd lieave the navigation arrows at the rightmost part. So we should resize the landscape to a 320px width for QVGA and 640px for VGA...

If the resulting graphics will be too small, we'll have to consider arrows removal.

[DupinBJK]

The Full Qwerty keyboard is too big for diamond screen,
so i got rid of the soft-arrows on the bottom, which are pointless coz diamond have hardware arrows.

Enjoy (http://rapidshare.com/files/201270557/HTC_EzInput2_Diamond_VGA_NoKbd_0409-B1.cab)

you just cropped the graphics, or what else ?

[blutz]

you just cropped the graphics, or what else ?

edit the xml files

[DupinBJK]

edit the xml files

I've seen your files, thanks !

[conflipper]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485396&page=2

There is a keyboard OEM at this, It was a working SIP, working Full Qwerty, Working Phone Keypad. Might want to look at it.

[DupinBJK]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485396&page=2

There is a keyboard OEM at this, It was a working SIP, working Full Qwerty, Working Phone Keypad. Might want to look at it.

Seen, thanks ! It includes an additional library, which I'm going to test in a few minutes. I guess that probably it wasn't even necessary to create this thread after all :)

[conflipper]

still needs work, seems like some of the xml files are off or soemthing. not all of the keys work. you can press them. but nothing appears. who knows. we will have it soon i am sure.

[Krzysiec]

In VGA ver SPACE button doesn`t work in ABC mode ...

[DupinBJK]

In VGA ver SPACE button doesn`t work in ABC mode ...

The cabs are in WVGA only at the moment... What VGA version are you talking of ?

[Krzysiec]

From post #41 ... I called it VGA becuase it was fitted to Diamond ;)

[jholton]

The Full Qwerty keyboard is too big for diamond screen,
so i got rid of the soft-arrows on the bottom, which are pointless coz diamond have hardware arrows.

Enjoy (http://rapidshare.com/files/201270557/HTC_EzInput2_Diamond_VGA_NoKbd_0409-B1.cab)

I think this is the one that they mentioned the space not working in VGA version. I installed this one, and that is an issue with it.

[DupinBJK]

From post #41 ... I called it VGA becuase it was fitted to Diamond ;)

Ok, I see... It seems that the HTC code is really at an early stage in development...

By the way, would you prefer to keep the arrows, in a VGA version, or not ?

[Krzysiec]

Hmmm it`s difficult to say ;) But would be great if there will be choice of two: With and Without arrows. Anyway i preffer arrows ;) But most of VGA user preffer more space on display ;) Can`t wait for full working keyboard. ;)

[jholton]

Keep the arrows, for sure!

[jholton]

In VGA ver SPACE button doesn`t work in ABC mode ...

If you hit backspace after completing a word then the space will work...

[DupinBJK]

Hmmm it`s difficult to say ;) But would be great if there will be choice of two: With and Without arrows. Anyway i preffer arrows ;) But most of VGA user preffer more space on display ;) Can`t wait for full working keyboard. ;)

Keep the arrows, for sure!

Good. We'll try to see what can be fixed in this version, then, to enable the keys. I guess it will take a few months before an official VGA version will see the light. The next VGA devices seem to be scheduled for the fourth quarter...

[DupinBJK]

still needs work, seems like some of the xml files are off or soemthing. not all of the keys work. you can press them. but nothing appears. who knows. we will have it soon i am sure.

The library that it was missing from the B1 cab was the new SipMenu. I've added it along with its registry settings and now the SipMenu should be enabled with the new B1.1 cab, too.

However, this brings up a blocking issue, at least for Non-HTC phones and HTC QVGA phones that doesn't have a Touch.dll compatible with the new SipMenu (of the HTC ones, only the Elfin, Opal, Jade and Iolite have it): it won't be possible neither to change between the keypad and full qwerty, nor to change the language used. Bad news.

Could you take a snapshot of the new SipMenu ? Thanks !

I can also confirm that the Landscape layout seems a bit messed up.

[conflipper]

The library that it was missing from the B1 cab was the new SipMenu. I've added it along with its registry settings and now the SipMenu should be enabled with the new B1.1 cab, too.

However, this brings up a blocking issue, at least for Non-HTC phones and HTC QVGA phones that doesn't have a Touch.dll compatible with the new SipMenu (of the HTC ones, only the Elfin, Opal, Jade and Iolite have it): it won't be possible neither to change between the keypad and full qwerty, nor to change the language used. Bad news.

Could you take a snapshot of the new SipMenu ? Thanks !

I can also confirm that the Landscape layout seems a bit messed up.

right now there really is no new SIP, well i havent got it going. it is just a small list, like it use to be.

I just got the new manila to auto lauch on vga devices. So I am working on Contact Editor now.

I will try and grab screenshots later when I can though.

[bugsykoosh]

Did you guys see this version yet from jmztaylor: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=58596
few more pics here with some issues but also one big benefit - disabling T9 gives you old school completion (the old HTC keyboard only worked with every other letter for some reason when T9 was disabled): http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=2212

[DupinBJK]

Did you guys see this version yet from jmztaylor: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=58596
few more pics here with some issues but also one big benefit - disabling T9 gives you old school completion (the old HTC keyboard only worked with every other letter for some reason when T9 was disabled): http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=2212

hehe... :rolleyes:

you can find the same packages on xda, but with a different name on them ;)

Anyway, we're all getting files from the same source. And altough the .xml files seem to be ok, the landscape layout has several typing issues. I wonder why I cannot find issue reports for that packages too... :confused:

[DupinBJK]

right now there really is no new SIP, well i havent got it going. it is just a small list, like it use to be.


Well, but how can you select the Phone Keypad on the old list, then ? Since you were talking of a working Keypad, I thought you had used it...

[conflipper]

hehe... :rolleyes:

you can find the same packages on xda, but with a different name on them ;)



well said..... Not sure why we are getting these issues. unless some random regedit that we are missing. or some odd files. who knows. We will get it all soon.

Keep up the great work.



Running to town. When I get back I will grab a screenshot.

[DupinBJK]

well said..... Not sure why we are getting these issues. unless some random regedit that we are missing. or some odd files. who knows. We will get it all soon.

Keep up the great work.



Running to town. When I get back I will grab a screenshot.

This one is really good. Did the layout autoconfigure itself to Phone Keypad just because you were on the SMS application, or did you select it manually ?

What seems to be the old input panel is indeed the new one, in disguise. See where it says "Other Input Methods", and where it says "English" ? well, you can't get those options with the standard Input Panel. You get them because you are using the new SipMenu. This one doesn't use the good-looking graphics introduced with V1.5, but maybe it's just because it's still a work in progress.

I can't get it, however, using these beta1.1 cabs on the emulator. Someone could check them and tell me what happens on a real VGA/WVGA device ?

Thanks !!

[whatsleft4her]

can we get a qvga without the arrows really no need for them when you have a dpad. is it possible?

[DupinBJK]

can we get a qvga without the arrows really no need for them when you have a dpad. is it possible?

Good point !
But we have more urgent issues first... It's still unclear how to make the language and layout options appear on the input panel, and the Landscape mode has a few missing keys...

[whatsleft4her]

i see i see well im willing to be a tester and def waiting on you guys patiantly if it was for you guys here id just have a basic phone and no tweaks that i have a passion for.

[DupinBJK]

i see i see well im willing to be a tester and def waiting on you guys patiantly if it was for you guys here id just have a basic phone and no tweaks that i have a passion for.

I hope we'll be able to solve the major issues in a short time.

I fear, however, that this new version might be too much for our old QVGA devices. As I said a few posts earlier, if our QVGA phones can't even show the SipMenu introduced with V1.5, it won't be possible to show the new one either. And without the new one, at this stage it's not possible to change the language or the layout. A real pity... :(

[whatsleft4her]

well 1.5 works just fine for me but def hope you can get this to work. if you need a tester pm me the cab and im in.

[conflipper]

This one is really good. Did the layout autoconfigure itself to Phone Keypad just because you were on the SMS application, or did you select it manually ?

What seems to be the old input panel is indeed the new one, in disguise. See where it says "Other Input Methods", and where it says "English" ? well, you can't get those options with the standard Input Panel. You get them because you are using the new SipMenu. This one doesn't use the good-looking graphics introduced with V1.5, but maybe it's just because it's still a work in progress.

I can't get it, however, using these beta1.1 cabs on the emulator. Someone could check them and tell me what happens on a real VGA/WVGA device ?

Thanks !!


Just tested. The SIP menu does come up on your latest. I am getting full keyboard working in Phone Keypad and Full Qwerty. looks great so far.

It is a new SIP menu, I was just expecting something more. but then again no complaints at all. Wonder if we can make the old one work with it anyways. Let me grab some files and I will test this out. First to convert your latest back to OEM though.

Good work on this so far.

[dharvey4651]

I tried it but I can't get anything but the portrait Full QWERTY to work. I tried on an AT&T Fuze(Touch PRO) and I used the version for users with a full keyboard.

[CRACING]

Thanks a lot ! I'll take a look later today.
For the landscape reduction the percentage will have to be different, both for VGA and QVGA. At the moment, to ease the conversion issues that we might encounter, I'd lieave the navigation arrows at the rightmost part. So we should resize the landscape to a 320px width for QVGA and 640px for VGA...

If the resulting graphics will be too small, we'll have to consider arrows removal.
Hello,

ya, the images will not be clear when we resize them so need to find alt solutions. I tried my best to resize them but still are some more images to be resize. So when you will be free please take a look on them and also the xml files.

BTW; how was the redesigned damaged file. Hope it was fine.......:)

Thanks and regards

[Sir.B]

//EDIT: Version 1.1
works on the Touch HD, but there is that space issue

//EDIT: Version 1.3
//EDIT: Just works on the Touch HD :)

funny thing the compact QWERTY is still an option
when selected regular crappy windows keyboard shows up

one small omission from the CAB
is the tick.wav file

vibrate is not the only feedback option, there is also sound

as the rest, file goes into \Windows

[sinara]

Please please please give us a VGA version as well :)

[yandi3401]

Hi, I love this keyboard, it really looks nice!

- Is this suposed to work on an HTC Touch? Because I intalled it on my HTC Touch, and it works, but is too big, i can only see half of the keyboard. So i wonder if this is suposed to work on my phone.

I apreciate all the hard work you are doing, thanks a lot!

[DupinBJK]

I tried it but I can't get anything but the portrait Full QWERTY to work. I tried on an AT&T Fuze(Touch PRO) and I used the version for users with a full keyboard.

Conflipper is using your same phone... have you tried the latest Beta 1.1 ? the previous one was missing the sipmenu.

[DupinBJK]

Hi, I love this keyboard, it really looks nice!

- Is this suposed to work on an HTC Touch? Because I intalled it on my HTC Touch, and it works, but is too big, i can only see half of the keyboard. So i wonder if this is suposed to work on my phone.

I apreciate all the hard work you are doing, thanks a lot!

Well, if you remember correctly, there is "WVGA" written above the download links ;)

Browse a bit through the previous posts. This is going to be a joint effort.
We'll need to resize and tweak the configuration files, but there are going to be several blocking issues for QVGA phones, including yours (and mine, BTW)...

[DupinBJK]

Please please please give us a VGA version as well :)

There are already other users in this thread working on it... :)

[DupinBJK]

works on the Touch HD, but there is that space issue

funny thing the compact QWERTY is still an option
when selected regular crappy windows keyboard shows up

one small omission from the CAB
is the tick.wav file

vibrate is not the only feedback option, there is also sound

as the rest, file goes into \Windows

"Space issue" ? more details, please...

You still see the Compact because you still have the previous 1.5 version on the phone. This one doesn't have it at all, but the keys are not replaced...

I wonder what does make you think that that file is needed... I see that other users have added it to their packages, but no library both from HTC or from Tegic references it. Sound works even without that file.
Are you telling me that by adding that file the sound made while typing changes ? It should be added to Beta 1.2, in that case.

Could anyone else confirm ?

[DupinBJK]

Hello,

ya, the images will not be clear when we resize them so need to find alt solutions. I tried my best to resize them but still are some more images to be resize. So when you will be free please take a look on them and also the xml files.

BTW; how was the redesigned damaged file. Hope it was fine.......:)

Thanks and regards

As another user suggests, since QVGA phones (and VGA phones too) have hardware arrow keys, we could try to get rid of them on the layout, to get more real estate. But I'm still not sure if it would be safe to remove entries from the .xml files. It has already been attempted here with the VGA ones, but some users are reporting issues with the space key...

I'll look at it later today.

Your redesigned image file was very good, but I've find another source that was not corrupted, so I've chosen that one... you can find it in the new cabs...

Thanks !

[DupinBJK]

Just tested. The SIP menu does come up on your latest. I am getting full keyboard working in Phone Keypad and Full Qwerty. looks great so far.

It is a new SIP menu, I was just expecting something more. but then again no complaints at all. Wonder if we can make the old one work with it anyways. Let me grab some files and I will test this out. First to convert your latest back to OEM though.

Good work on this so far.

Nothing has been done, yet... We must be sure if the first attempt to remove the arrows on the VGA version has been successful or not :)

And anyway, the two Sip Menus are a bit different. The one used for V1.5 was an app launched at startup, while the last one is configured as a service. I'd stick with it, at the moment, there are more serious issues which need our attention...

[dlee83]

Hi guys,

I have the Verizon Touch Pro and installed the cab for the VGA version of this EzInput keyboard. When I go to test it out on an SMS or email, only the ugly QWERTY pops up (tiny keys, pale blue), not the HTC one. Does anyone know how to switch the on-screen keyboards?

Thanks!

[DupinBJK]

Hi guys,

I have the Verizon Touch Pro and installed the cab for the VGA version of this EzInput keyboard. When I go to test it out on an SMS or email, only the ugly QWERTY pops up (tiny keys, pale blue), not the HTC one. Does anyone know how to switch the on-screen keyboards?

Thanks!

If you have downloaded the Beta 1 VGA cab fromthis thread, then you don't have the SipMenu and it won't be possible to change the layout.
You need Beta 1.1 or above, it will appear soon on the download links.

[dlee83]

I uninstalled the cab but still the ugly light blue keyboard shows up. How do I change this back to the HTC keyboard? Isn't there a button I press to toggle between full qwerty, compact qwerty, t9, etc.?

Thanks!

[DupinBJK]

I uninstalled the cab but still the ugly light blue keyboard shows up. How do I change this back to the HTC keyboard? Isn't there a button I press to toggle between full qwerty, compact qwerty, t9, etc.?

Thanks!

I guess you've not read that part on the first post where it's clearly written that this is pre-release software... you can't simply remove and expect everything to be back as before.

If you can't get the previous keyboard back, you have to reinstall it.

[CRACING]

Hello,

I have some queries with previous ezinput :

There are same images which are above qvga screen size so what are those because if thay are useless then I will delete them so that I can get some space. :)

Images/files name:

P20-capmap_down_mask.png
P20-capmap_up.png
P20-eng-capmap_down_mask.png
P20-eng-map_down_mask.png
P20-map_down_mask.png
P20-map_up.png
prediction_bkgrnd_portrait.png
prediction_landscape.png

Is its clear to delete these files or else should I resize them?

Thanks and regards

[DupinBJK]

Hello,

I have some queries with previous ezinput :

There are same images which are above qvga screen size so what are those because if thay are useless then I will delete them so that I can get some space. :)

Images/files name:

P20-capmap_down_mask.png
P20-capmap_up.png
P20-eng-capmap_down_mask.png
P20-eng-map_down_mask.png
P20-map_down_mask.png
P20-map_up.png
prediction_bkgrnd_portrait.png
prediction_landscape.png

Is its clear to delete these files or else should I resize them?

Thanks and regards

You don't need those, for EzInput 2.0.
P20 (Compact Qwerty) is not supported at all.
And anyway, the P20 images included in the 1.5 QVGA cabs are not above QVGA screen size... I think I'm missing your point. :confused:

[DupinBJK]

Beta 1.2 is out, with a minor correction to the cabs.
The package should be complete, by now.

Could someone take them and make a no-arrows version for VGA ? The previous had the arrows removed only for the Full Qwerty layout, and not the Keypad one, now accessible through the SipMenu.

Once we'll understand how to fix the missing keys issue for Landscape, there will be time to make a VGA layout including the arrows.

Could the author use a xxx_HTC_EzInput.* format, thus replacing BJK with his three-letters initials ?

Thanks !! :)

[lukzke]

SPACE doesnt work

[DupinBJK]

SPACE doesnt work

Seems to be a known issue, but only in Landscape, or in Portrait, too ?

[lukzke]

Both i have to use the right arrow key to let the line unther the word make disapeare and than i can use the space bar

[DupinBJK]

Both i have to use the right arrow key to let the line unther the word make disapeare and than i can use the space bar

Have you tried any of the HD roms in the forum that already include it ? If yes, have you experienced the same issue ?

Thanks !

[lukzke]

I had the 1.8 dutty rom that included that keyboard but now im using the 1.7 rom. I had no probems with this keyboard in the 1.8 rom.

Does somebody know how to restore the old keyboard ?

[DupinBJK]

I had the 1.8 dutty rom that included that keyboard but now im using the 1.7 rom. I had no probems with this keyboard in the 1.8 rom.

Does somebody know how to restore the old keyboard ?

No space issue at all, on that 1.8 rom ? Someone else says that that rom had the same issue...

[CRACING]

You don't need those, for EzInput 2.0.
P20 (Compact Qwerty) is not supported at all.
And anyway, the P20 images included in the 1.5 QVGA cabs are not above QVGA screen size... I think I'm missing your point. :confused:

I am not talking about 2.0. In 1.5 these images are above qvga size so can I remove them from the oem?

Or else thay are needed for ezinput to work correctly.:confused:

Thanks and regards

[DupinBJK]

I am not talking about 2.0. In 1.5 these images are above qvga size so can I remove them from the oem?

Or else thay are needed for ezinput to work correctly.:confused:

Thanks and regards

You're looking at a wrong cab, then. The "prediction" images are bigger, and you must keep them that way, but in the QVGA cabs all the other P20 images are in QVGA size...

[reevan8]

hi,
i have att fuze with winmo6.5, i installed the cab in the first page, it shows in the keyboard menu but when i select it, it goes back the normal keyboard...
i tried to do that from settings and had the same results !!!
am i supposed to do a registry change? if yes then what it will be?
or could it be just a bug in the beta ver of winmo6.5.....

oh by the way, i have installed before the older ver of ezinput, and it did work !!!
any ideas ?

[CRACING]

You're looking at a wrong cab, then. The "prediction" images are bigger, and you must keep them that way, but in the QVGA cabs all the other P20 images are in QVGA size...
There are P20 qvga images and also P20 vga images. I think there is some misstake in my ezinput oem so I should check your cab.

Edit: Ok, I have extracted your BJK_HTC_EzInput_QVGA_FullKbd_0409-RC2.cab and I found the same vga images so there is no misstake in my oem.:confused:

Can you plz verify these images, If you are free:o :

P20-capmap_down_mask.png
P20-capmap_up.png
P20-eng-capmap_down_mask.png
P20-eng-map_down_mask.png
P20-map_down_mask.png
P20-map_up.png

BTW; sorry for posting this query in wrong thread.

Thanks and regards

[DupinBJK]

hi,
i have att fuze with winmo6.5, i installed the cab in the first page, it shows in the keyboard menu but when i select it, it goes back the normal keyboard...
i tried to do that from settings and had the same results !!!
am i supposed to do a registry change? if yes then what it will be?
or could it be just a bug in the beta ver of winmo6.5.....

oh by the way, i have installed before the older ver of ezinput, and it did work !!!
any ideas ?

Well, when you test several pre-releases together, you can never know which one to blame... but to start, you've downloaded a WVGA cab, and this won't help. I'm still waiting for someone to make a VGA version of those 1.2 cabs, as you might see in the previous posts...

So you'll have to wait for some volunteers, to get a cab for your phone...

[reevan8]

Well, when you test several pre-releases together, you can never know which one to blame... but to start, you've downloaded a WVGA cab, and this won't help. I'm still waiting for someone to make a VGA version of those 1.2 cabs, as you might see in the previous posts...

So you'll have to wait for some volunteers, to get a cab for your phone...

thanks for the quick reply !

by the way....i had the same problem when i installed PCM keyboard(vga).....but then again that was a beta ver.

i guess you are absolutely right...having multiple betas can be little problematic....


thank you and keep up the good work

[DupinBJK]

There are P20 qvga images and also P20 vga images. I think there is some misstake in my ezinput oem so I should check your cab.

Edit: Ok, I have extracted your BJK_HTC_EzInput_QVGA_FullKbd_0409-RC2.cab and I found the same vga images so there is no misstake in my oem.:confused:

Can you plz verify these images, If you are free:o :

P20-capmap_down_mask.png
P20-capmap_up.png
P20-eng-capmap_down_mask.png
P20-eng-map_down_mask.png
P20-map_down_mask.png
P20-map_up.png

BTW; sorry for posting this query in wrong thread.

Thanks and regards

Well, once and for all, my BJK_HTC_EzInput_QVGA_FullKbd_0409-RC2.cab package, dated 2008-11-21, has only the following P20 files:

P20-abc.png
P20-abc_Inverse.png
P20-eng-capmap_down_mask.png
P20-eng-capmap_up.png
P20-eng-map_down_mask.png
P20-eng-map_up.png
P20-shift.png
P20-shift_Inverse.png

So yes, man, you are looking at the wrong file. I've started renaming the map and capmap files quite a long time ago, indeed, by putting the three letter locale for each language.
Certainly, the cab file you're looking at has been modified. Even more certain is the fact that it doesn't come from my repository on 4shared...

[blutz]

Both i have to use the right arrow key to let the line unther the word make disapeare and than i can use the space bar

wtf with this underline anyway, can't we make it disappear?

[totalcmdext]

[VGA version without Arrows]

http://rapidshare.com/files/201683157/TKJ_HTC_EzInput2_WVGA_NoKbd_0409-B1_2.cab

[whatsleft4her]

nice vga cab now can someone please convert that to qvga

[hkr]

Ok, I see... It seems that the HTC code is really at an early stage in development...

By the way, would you prefer to keep the arrows, in a VGA version, or not ?
no arrows, I'm used to the hardware keys :)
.. of course, choice would be great ...

[DupinBJK]

[VGA version without Arrows]

http://rapidshare.com/files/201683157/TKJ_HTC_EzInput2_WVGA_NoKbd_0409-B1_2.cab

Well done, but P12Sym_Bg_Inv.png and the Landscape still have the arrows... they can't be used, that way... :(

[hkr]

Altough I can switch to german with the SipMenu, there's no real german keyboard, just qwertz but no Umlauts at all ... (at least, I didn't find out so far).

Then there's a menupoint with no description. Does anyone know, what it does (or should do) ?

[DupinBJK]

no arrows, I'm used to the hardware keys :)
.. of course, choice would be great ...

I agree.
But still, we have to understand the reasons for the strange behaviour of some keys...

[eboy44]

[VGA version without Arrows]

http://rapidshare.com/files/201683157/TKJ_HTC_EzInput2_WVGA_NoKbd_0409-B1_2.cab

anyway of getting the vga with arrows?

thanks for this one by the way!

[DupinBJK]

Altough I can switch to german with the SipMenu, there's no real german keyboard, just qwertz but no Umlauts at all ... (at least, I didn't find out so far).

Usually all the possible diacritics should appear in a row above the pressed key, when you press the key a little bit longer. The .xml configuration for 0x07 shows them...

Then there's a menupoint with no description. Does anyone know, what it does (or should do) ?

It's the one to enable the vibration, which requires the updated BioTouch, though... It hasn't been translated.

[blutz]

I agree.
But still, we have to understand the reasons for the strange behaviour of some keys...

soft arrows needed in the new diamond II which is wide screen and no hard arrows

[DupinBJK]

soft arrows needed in the new diamond II which is wide screen and no hard arrows

Right, but some still would like to get them anyway.
Anyway, until the other issues will be solved, it would be good to get a VGA standard layout with no arrows for both Portrait and Landscape.

Could you make them, as you already started doing a few posts ago ? The most difficult part would be to create a Landscape layout, but since everything can be compared with what has already been done by HTC with V1.5, you should already have an idea about how to do it, right ?

[hkr]

Usually all the possible diacritics should appear in a row above the pressed key, when you press the key a little bit longer. The .xml configuration for 0x07 shows them...



It's the one to enable the vibration, which requires the updated BioTouch, though... It hasn't been translated.

I found it, thanks ...

Then I discovered, that the compact Qwertz and the telefon input does not work anymore, I could live with it, but just wanted to mention it ...

[DupinBJK]

I found it, thanks ...

Then I discovered, that the compact Qwertz and the telefon input does not work anymore, I could live with it, but just wanted to mention it ...

You had the previous V1.5 onboard, right ? the to key sets gtenerate conflicts, so you're not in the best environment.

The compact QWERTY doesn't exist anymore, in the new suite, so it's not even selectable with the menu. But the keypad can be selected. It has been reported as such...

[hibby50]

I am running the one from ppcgeeks by jmz, and the main issues are: no viration, period key does not work on the hardware KB, the landscape is cut off, and the key popping up when u press it is sparatic at best.

EDIT:

P.S. this is on the sprint pro

EDIT2: I am installing beta 1.2 now

[DupinBJK]

I am running the one from ppcgeeks by jmz, and the main issues are: no viration, period key does not work on the hardware KB, the landscape is cut off, and the key popping up when u press it is sparatic at best.

To get Vibration, you need to use the latest BioTouch which comes from the same pre-release rom, that's why you don't get it. The landscape is cut off because you are using it on a VGA, probably.

The key pop up and some of the keys are a bit problematic, yes, they are all known problems...

[cocoepiblas]

I have a English rom but I am spanish. Ezinput 2 keyboard is in English,
How can I have my keyboard in Spanish?

I can not see the keyboard full.:( the ppc is a kaiser.

[DupinBJK]

I have a English rom but I am spanish. Ezinput 2 keyboard is in English,
How can I have my keyboard in Spanish?

I can not see the keyboard full.:( the ppc is a kaiser.

To select the language, you should use the new SipMenu. But it doesn't work on older phones like the kaiser, so you should try to edit the registry, to change language.

Try this one:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\DefaultLangu age

change it to 0x010a. I'm not sure it will work, though...

[nanastas]

kaiser is QVGA.

[cocoepiblas]

kaiser is QVGA.

ok, Ezinput 2 is for WVGA and don't work in kaiser. :(

Thanks.

[hibby50]

Why dont we just pull biotouch out of the rom in that case....

[DupinBJK]

Why dont we just pull biotouch out of the rom in that case....

Because this is not going to be a thread for the porting of BioTouch.
Someone else will do it, and will integrate it into a custom ROM. Distributing it in CAB form wouldn't be a wise idea.

[yandi3401]

I have a English rom but I am spanish. Ezinput 2 keyboard is in English,
How can I have my keyboard in Spanish?

I can not see the keyboard full.:( the ppc is a kaiser.

Thats exactly how it looks on my phone too (HTC Touch from Sprint).

- Is there any cab that can be used with this phone? I already looked through previous posts, but didn't find anything.

(If there is, please give me the download link)

Thanks a lot, and keep the good work, I'm sure when u get it together, this is going to be great!!! :)

[cocoepiblas]

Thats exactly how it looks on my phone too (HTC Touch from Sprint).

- Is there any cab that can be used with this phone? I already looked through previous posts, but didn't find anything.

(If there is, please give me the download link)

Thanks a lot, and keep the good work, I'm sure when u get it together, this is going to be great!!! :)

EzInput 1.5 work well in kaiser, try.

[jmztaylor]

Fully working VGA keyboard. Includes fixed landscape

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=58596

[bobdoll]

some people are referring to a space issue, or when you press space nothing happens.

I have noticed that the ABC mode has some issues (XT9 works fine). In ABC the words are underlined and it seems that it still tries to run some of the XT9 or spell check features even if it's all disbled. So when you press space it shows a space but then when you start the next work, it removes the space and keeps adding letters to the first word (if you press right arrow it unlock the word and remove the underlining).

example:
"test" (that's what i type)
"test " (i press space)
"testkeyboard" (the space is removed and the letters are appended at the end of test)
It will keep doing this untill the right arrow is pressed

(again only in ABC mode)

Hopefully it's a small bug that can be easily fixed.

Test done on Touch HD

I also noticed that the keyboard doesn't pass the input directly to the system when you do a contact search, whatever you type doesn't trigger any search like with the old keyboard, only once you press the right arrow the contact app gets it and filters the contacts.

Got to say that it's a bit annoying, i'll try it a bit more but i guess i will reinstall the original touch HD keyboard and wait for this issue to get fixed.

[yandi3401]

EzInput 1.5 work well in kaiser, try.

Where can I download it?

- If possible, give me the specific link. If have tried about five different cabs, and no luck.

Thanks for the time! :)

[DupinBJK]

Where can I download it?

- If possible, give me the specific link. If have tried about five different cabs, and no luck.

Thanks for the time! :)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426281

[DupinBJK]

Fully working VGA keyboard. Includes fixed landscape

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=58596

Your cabs still include the arrows and have Landscape width of 800px...
What do you mean, when you say fixed Landscape ? :confused:

[DupinBJK]

some people are referring to a space issue, or when you press space nothing happens.

I have noticed that the ABC mode has some issues (XT9 works fine). In ABC the words are underlined and it seems that it still tries to run some of the XT9 or spell check features even if it's all disbled. So when you press space it shows a space but then when you start the next work, it removes the space and keeps adding letters to the first word (if you press right arrow it unlock the word and remove the underlining).

example:
"test" (that's what i type)
"test " (i press space)
"testkeyboard" (the space is removed and the letters are appended at the end of test)
It will keep doing this untill the right arrow is pressed

(again only in ABC mode)

Hopefully it's a small bug that can be easily fixed.

Sadly, it doesn't seem so. You have to disable all options, to avoid these behaviours, and maybe even the addwordinwordlist, but it's not just a matter of getting accustomed to a different way of doing things, many times the keyboard behaves in an incoherent way.
And I don't know if you have verified it or not on your HD, but here the rightmost and leftmost keys on Landscape don't even work (and I'm talking about a full WVGA screen), and sometimes, still in Landscape, pressing a key makes the keyboard "press" a different key and output a different char on screen.


Test done on Touch HD

I also noticed that the keyboard doesn't pass the input directly to the system when you do a contact search, whatever you type doesn't trigger any search like with the old keyboard, only once you press the right arrow the contact app gets it and filters the contacts.

Got to say that it's a bit annoying, i'll try it a bit more but i guess i will reinstall the original touch HD keyboard and wait for this issue to get fixed.

I confirm what you are experiencing.
The quality of this build is not enough for a day-to-day use. We'll have to wait for a better release. :(

[faw+]

uuuuhhhmmm, having the same problem as mentioned above, so thinking of waiting a bit till this gets stable, but where can I download the original HD keyboard. By just uninstalling this one here my phone went crazy once trying to pop up the keyboard.

[DupinBJK]

uuuuhhhmmm, having the same problem as mentioned above, so thinking of waiting a bit till this gets stable, but where can I download the original HD keyboard. By just uninstalling this one here my phone went crazy once trying to pop up the keyboard.

which rom are you using ?

[faw+]

ROM 1.14.407.3 German

[tedacura1]

does anyone have the original keyboard that I can download? my rom is
original 1.14.405.3 wwe

[n3tfusion]

Hello,

Thanks for this new keyboard, but i have one or 2 issues ..
I have a touch HD with original French Rom 1.14

First one, the most annoying, i can't display the Phone Keyboard, when i choose that keyboard, it's the win classic ( the tiny one ).
I don't know if there is a special tips for that ? Any ideas ?

Other things, if i select the "Touch Input", it's the full keyboard and works great ( except the ABC bug, but .. ), but if i want to send a sms, there is the bottom part of the keyboard that is transparent, so i can see my TF3D..
If i open the sip menu and select again Touch Input, the keyboard display without troubles.
I don't know if there is a way to fix that ?

And finally, if i want to go back to my original keyboard, what do i have to download and install ?

Thank for your help :)

[DupinBJK]

ROM 1.14.407.3 German

does anyone have the original keyboard that I can download? my rom is
original 1.14.405.3 wwe

Hello,

Thanks for this new keyboard, but i have one or 2 issues ..
I have a touch HD with original French Rom 1.14

First one, the most annoying, i can't display the Phone Keyboard, when i choose that keyboard, it's the win classic ( the tiny one ).
I don't know if there is a special tips for that ? Any ideas ?

Other things, if i select the "Touch Input", it's the full keyboard and works great ( except the ABC bug, but .. ), but if i want to send a sms, there is the bottom part of the keyboard that is transparent, so i can see my TF3D..
If i open the sip menu and select again Touch Input, the keyboard display without troubles.
I don't know if there is a way to fix that ?

And finally, if i want to go back to my original keyboard, what do i have to download and install ?

Thank for your help :)

This is the link for the main cab:

http://www.4shared.com/file/76969175/d3415dcb/BJK_HTC_EzInput_WVGA_NoKbd_0409-RTW.html

and here you'll find the language packs:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3304868&postcount=5

Remember to install at least one language of your choice.

[tedacura1]

i tried to install the original keyboard cab but it says it does not have sufficient system permissions ...what to do now?

[DupinBJK]

i tried to install the original keyboard cab but it says it does not have sufficient system permissions ...what to do now?

Stop the SipGT_App process and retry.

[tedacura1]

not quire sure what do you mean by "Stop the SipGT_App process and retry."
__________________
how do I do This? Please excuse my ignorance

[chas123]

Install the attached cab. Run the program. Under the list of processes you will see sipgt. Select it and push close. If it won't close kill it. Install the keyboard. Reset the device. sipgt will start again on reset.

[tedacura1]

Thanks for all your prompt replys and all your help :)

[cocoepiblas]

Where can I download it?

- If possible, give me the specific link. If have tried about five different cabs, and no luck.

Thanks for the time! :)

http://www.4shared.com/file/72571446/1cf7786e/BJK_HTC_EzInput_QVGA_FullKbd_0409-RC2.html

and the Language Pack:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2735963&postcount=4

Good luck.

[AvinashDhaniraj]

Hi

Software keyboard works perfectly fine but when using hardware keyboard, one cannot use "numlock" ....hence cannot work or use numbers or blue keys on xperia - any suggestions?

Thanks

[Kenia1234]

Hi,
It's the best keyboard i've ever tried...but you have to fix some boring bugs...
I think that it's better than the Fing Keyboard or SPB keyboard and so on...
but there's still really much work to do...the most hideous bug is the one of the space key 'cause xT9 is quite unuseful and nasty in a full QWERTY keyboard...
I hope that you'll improve this fantastic keyboard...
:):)

[blutz]

here is something that can be useful for some forum members, and give some ideas to others

* ezinput 2 based on jmz release (landscape vga, and no spacebar problems)
* no arrows on portrait (useful for diamond)
* first "numbers layout" is HEBREW keyboard

Enjoy (http://rapidshare.com/files/202102176/ezinput2_vga_no_arrows_with_hebrew.cab)

[DupinBJK]

Hi,
It's the best keyboard i've ever tried...but you have to fix some boring bugs...
I think that it's better than the Fing Keyboard or SPB keyboard and so on...
but there's still really much work to do...the most hideous bug is the one of the space key 'cause xT9 is quite unuseful and nasty in a full QWERTY keyboard...
I hope that you'll improve this fantastic keyboard...
:):)

"You have to" ? Man, don't forget that this is not our stuff, it's HTC pre-release software... As it is in this release, trying to fix it would mean wasting too much time.

We'll have to wait for another release... :(

[DupinBJK]

here is something that can be useful for some forum members, and give some ideas to others

* ezinput 2 based on jmz release (landscape vga, and no spacebar problems)
* no arrows on portrait (useful for diamond)
* first "numbers layout" is HEBREW keyboard

Enjoy (http://rapidshare.com/files/202102176/ezinput2_vga_no_arrows_with_hebrew.cab)

Since jmz and this release are sharing the same registry and files (although JMZ's has resized graphics and xml files) I wonder how you can really be sure that the Space issues have been solved... :)

Anyone else can confirm ?

[DupinBJK]

Hi

Software keyboard works perfectly fine but when using hardware keyboard, one cannot use "numlock" ....hence cannot work or use numbers or blue keys on xperia - any suggestions?

Thanks

This has been made with the Rhodium hardware keyboard in mind, so maybe you should just have to change some codes in the hardware mapping files (the *rhodium*.txt file).

But anyway, in this release HTC shows that it's not going to make the keyboard compatible with other phones any longer.
That's because to change the layout or language you have to use a non standard input panel, that's tied to a specific touch.dll driver made by HTC only for his phones... :(

[jmztaylor]

Your cabs still include the arrows and have Landscape width of 800px...
What do you mean, when you say fixed Landscape ? :confused:

The keyboard is fully viewable with landscape keyboard. Had some issues but now is resolved.

[blutz]

Since jmz and this release are sharing the same registry and files (although JMZ's has resized graphics and xml files) I wonder how you can really be sure that the Space issues have been solved... :)

Anyone else can confirm ?

had them on this forum's beta 2, don't have them on JMZ's (english only)
one more thing - the new SIP menu didnt show in this forum's release and now its ok.

btw, the registry is different, but i didnt really dig in

[DupinBJK]

The keyboard is fully viewable with landscape keyboard. Had some issues but now is resolved.

Thanks jmz, could you confirm whether you have the Space issue or not (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3371292&postcount=126) ?

Also, I see that the main difference between what I've tried to reconstruct and your cabs is this key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Extens ions\Controls Folder\RemoveDefaultPropertySheet

Could you explain me what's its purpose ? Thanks !! :):)

[DupinBJK]

had them on this forum's beta 2, don't have them on JMZ's (english only)
one more thing - the new SIP menu didnt show in this forum's release and now its ok.

The registry should be fully working in the latest Nokbd 1.2, have you tried it ?

[bugsykoosh]

here's the keyboard without the arrows if it's not already posted: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=2244

[sidvizioso]

is there the problem with accent of hardware keyboard in this version?

[fards]

Guys, I've been working on getting the hard keyboard working on the X1, using the OEM package..

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485700&page=3

So far the software works fine, (I've not tried your new one Dupin yet)

and I've got the X1 hardware keyboard fully functioning by hacking around with the rhodium.wwe.kmap.txt file, even the blue Fn keys work fine except only if the sym pad is open on the screen as using the Fn keys..

I've obviously missed something, but am struggling to see what.
I'm wondering if I should 0xff the VK of each key to force it to ignore the keyboard driver (that's what the text suggests at least) and hard code each letter combo.
I've tried getting it to use the IME in registry but the change doesn't stick.

I also don't know the keycode to trigger the umlauts key on the X1 hardware keyboard.

any clues to that one?

[DupinBJK]

Guys, I've been working on getting the hard keyboard working on the X1, using the OEM package..

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485700&page=3

So far the software works fine, (I've not tried your new one Dupin yet)

and I've got the X1 hardware keyboard fully functioning by hacking around with the rhodium.wwe.kmap.txt file, even the blue Fn keys work fine except only if the sym pad is open on the screen as using the Fn keys..

I've obviously missed something, but am struggling to see what.
I'm wondering if I should 0xff the VK of each key to force it to ignore the keyboard driver (that's what the text suggests at least) and hard code each letter combo.
I've tried getting it to use the IME in registry but the change doesn't stick.

I also don't know the keycode to trigger the umlauts key on the X1 hardware keyboard.

any clues to that one?

Yes, that .txt file is the way to go, but you have to know the keycodes of your keyboard. Forcing the 0xff would not work on HTC phones, for example.

Could you post a photo of your hardware keyboard ?

[DupinBJK]

The keyboard is fully viewable with landscape keyboard. Had some issues but now is resolved.

jmz, I've just tried your keyboard, but I see that you have the same missing keys issue on Landscape that I have here: pressing q, w, e, r does not produce any char, t makes y and y makes u, and so on...

Can you confirm ?

Thanks !

[jmztaylor]

jmz, I've just tried your keyboard, but I see that you have the same missing keys issue on Landscape that I have here: pressing q, w, e, r does not produce any char, t makes y and y makes u, and so on...

Can you confirm ?

Thanks !

Ok, the xml was fixed. Check out http://www.everythingdiamond.info for everything that has been ported to VGA. It also includes no arrows in a complete cab.

[DupinBJK]

Ok, the xml was fixed. Check out http://www.everythingdiamond.info for everything that has been ported to VGA. It also includes no arrows in a complete cab.

what was wrong ?

[jmztaylor]

what was wrong ?

The XML. A couple things were missed when porting it.

[DupinBJK]

The XML. A couple things were missed when porting it.

Let me understand... you've changed the 0c09.xml files, right ?
But the issue about which I was talking two posts ago it's still there, q, w, e, r keys don't work in landscape.

(I am talking about your "Jmz Diamond 2 keyboard en.cab" and "Diamond 2 Keyboard English with landscape fix" cabs...)

Which issue have you corrected ?

[jmztaylor]

Let me understand... you've changed the 0c09.xml files, right ?
But the issue about which I was talking two posts ago it's still there, q, w, e, r keys don't work in landscape.

(I am talking about your "Jmz Diamond 2 keyboard en.cab" and "Diamond 2 Keyboard English with landscape fix" cabs...)

Which issue have you corrected ?

Just so we don't get this mistaken. It was savage25rcracer at ppcgeeks that is doing the porting. I am just the person posting it up.

I am using a Touch Diamond with HD manila installed. When I go to landscape and use the keyboard, I get qwertyuiop all hitting the right buttons and without a problem.

I updated the cab between taking it off of ppcgeeks and moving it to my site. I don't know which cab you have but getting the fresh one I know works because I am using it now.

[DupinBJK]

Just so we don't get this mistaken. It was savage25rcracer at ppcgeeks that is doing the porting. I am just the person posting it up.

I am using a Touch Diamond with HD manila installed. When I go to landscape and use the keyboard, I get qwertyuiop all hitting the right buttons and without a problem.

I updated the cab between taking it off of ppcgeeks and moving it to my site. I don't know which cab you have but getting the fresh one I know works because I am using it now.

well, I've just downloaded the "Diamond 2 Keyboard English with landscape fix" from the link you've given me, and the issue is still there (it's not sistematic, though, sometimes it happens as soon as yo create a new note, sometimes after you've been typing for a while. But it always happens).

So, maybe I'm using the wrong cab from your site...

Could you please tell me which cab are you using without issues ? I'd like to understand what's happening...

Thanks !

[jmztaylor]

well, I've just downloaded the "Diamond 2 Keyboard English with landscape fix" from the link you've given me, and the issue is still there. So, maybe I'm using the wrong cab from your site...

Could you please tell me which cab are you using without issues ? I'd like to understand what's happening...

Thanks !

http://everythingdiamond.info/downloads/Diamond%202%20keyboard%20en.cab

This is the direct link. I really don't know what is going on if this isn't working for you as it is for me.

[DupinBJK]

http://everythingdiamond.info/downloads/Diamond%202%20keyboard%20en.cab

This is the direct link. I really don't know what is going on if this isn't working for you as it is for me.

Ok, that's not the cab I was trying. I'll reset , install it and report back.

Thanks jmz !

Edit:
No way. The issue it's still there... :(
This time has started to appear as soon as I reached the t char. After that, the previous ones produced no char when pressing them.

The curious thing is that if i keep pressing several times in a row the same key that had just been "missing" then it "unblocks" itself after a while, unblocking the others too. Sad thing, after a while it reappears again :(

I'm using a plain vanilla rom, so there's nothing conflicting with it...

There's probably something wrong in the timings of the key pressure, and you don't notice it on your phone. Weird :)

[jmztaylor]

Ok, that's not the cab I was trying. I'll reset , install it and report back.

Thanks jmz !

Edit:
No way. The issue it's still there... :(
This time has started to appear as soon as I reached the t char. After that, the previous ones produced no char when pressing them.

The curious thing is that if i keep pressing several times in a row the same key that had just been "missing" then it "unblocks" itself after a while, unblocking the others too. Sad thing, after a while it reappears again :(

I'm using a plain vanilla rom, so there's nothing conflicting with it...

There's probably something wrong in the timings of the key pressure, and you don't notice it on your phone. Weird :)

Must just be a bug across different devices.

[yandi3401]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426281


Thanks! It works, but I'll wait for this one to work on my phone. ;)

Thanks for all the hard work, keep it up!

[Adam4U]

Did anyone succeeded to make EzInput work in the HD???..if yes, please give me the link to the successful cab.
Thank You...

[fards]

Yes, that .txt file is the way to go, but you have to know the keycodes of your keyboard. Forcing the 0xff would not work on HTC phones, for example.

Could you post a photo of your hardware keyboard ?


Yeah it's only the umlaut keycode I need.. The shift/caps works, Sym key works. AU doesn't..
Fn key triggers change in keytype, it's being recognised (the Fn or even Fn lock symbol appears next to the SIP icon) but it doesn't allow access to the blue functions except when the sympad is open on screen.

anyway here's a pic of the X1 keyboard.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2008/11/se_xperia_x1_keyboard-(2).jpg



in the kmap.txt I posted I've deliberately left the ROW 1 keys in but commented out. I don't understand why, but if I deleted them the keyboard didn't work at all.

[DupinBJK]

Yeah it's only the umlaut keycode I need.. The shift/caps works, Sym key works. AU doesn't..
Fn key triggers change in keytype, it's being recognised (the Fn or even Fn lock symbol appears next to the SIP icon) but it doesn't allow access to the blue functions except when the sympad is open on screen.

anyway here's a pic of the X1 keyboard.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2008/11/se_xperia_x1_keyboard-(2).jpg



in the kmap.txt I posted I've deliberately left the ROW 1 keys in but commented out. I don't understand why, but if I deleted them the keyboard didn't work at all.

Quite different, we get the deadkeys function using FN+Space...

You can give the attached app to find the keycodes, then you'll have to make a few tests on your Rhodium*.txt file...

[DupinBJK]

Must just be a bug across different devices.

Yes, probably.

[DupinBJK]

Did anyone succeeded to make EzInput work in the HD???..if yes, please give me the link to the successful cab.
Thank You...

You probably missed the one on the first page, don't you ? But beware that if you don't like pre-release quality you'll have to reinstall the older one...

[fards]

Quite different, we get the deadkeys function using FN+Space...

You can give the attached app to find the keycodes, then you'll have to make a few tests on your Rhodium*.txt file...

great cheers.

using my current kmap, it allows access to et9 settings using fn +space.

{EDIT}
yeees! okay, I'm completely lost on how this has made a difference, but I changed the umlaut key (122 btw) in the kmap.txt and everything now works (well WWE works, I haven't got a clue about the rest of the worlds languages..)

{EDIT 2} after about 30 keypresses pressing another key causes all open progs to close.. ah well, back to the drawing board..

[faw+]

I know I'm getting greedy, but is there a chance of making a german qwertz keyboard with the ö, ä, ü keys? :)

[DupinBJK]

great cheers.

using my current kmap, it allows access to et9 settings using fn +space.


That's the Touch Pro keyboard, indeed... :)

{EDIT}
yeees! okay, I'm completely lost on how this has made a difference, but I changed the umlaut key (122 btw) in the kmap.txt and everything now works (well WWE works, I haven't got a clue about the rest of the worlds languages..)

Every locale works differently, even UK keyboards and US ones... Call it globalization... :(

{EDIT 2} after about 30 keypresses pressing another key causes progs to crash.. ah well, back to the drawing board..

I hope you mean the keymapper :)

[DupinBJK]

I know I'm getting greedy, but is there a chance of making a german qwertz keyboard with the ö, ä, ü keys? :)

well, isn't it included in the cab ? You should be able to select German from the menu, and see... (download the latest cab, the space issue should be solved by now).

And, moreover, by editing the xml file for your language, you should be able to add whatever you want (but I think that your diacritics are already included).

You're not greedy, you're not paying attention !!! :D

[faw+]

Hmmm when I selected German I just got the german correction in the T9 but not a qwertz keyboard (i think at least). Anyway I'll try it again soon :) thax for the good job.

[DupinBJK]

Hmmm when I selected German I just got the german correction in the T9 but not a qwertz keyboard (i think at least). Anyway I'll try it again soon :) thax for the good job.

Oh well, the layout files for German are configured for Qwertz... you say that the layout did not change ?

Could you try to change the default language under the HKLM/Software/Tegic registry key, soft reset and see ?

[Krzysiec]

Is it possible to add some more emoticons in that emtpy spaces on 2nd site of symbols ? i mean for ex. :* ;/ :/ :[

[fards]

I think I'm going to give it a break for a bit on the X1, beginning to pickle my poor little brain..

I've found that deleting the kmap entirely from /windows means that I can use the Fn keys with sympad open on screen, so it works after a fashion.. ah happy accidents.

[chrisrc1985]

looks good pretty nice :)
EzInput1 was great and helped a lot, cant wait to give this a try soon

[DupinBJK]

Is it possible to add some more emoticons in that emtpy spaces on 2nd site of symbols ? i mean for ex. :* ;/ :/ :[

I think that editing the xml configuration files should be enough... chars are mapped there.

[Krzysiec]

I think that editing the xml configuration files should be enough... chars are mapped there.

But where to find those xml files ? ;)

[faw+]

Oh well, the layout files for German are configured for Qwertz... you say that the layout did not change ?

Could you try to change the default language under the HKLM/Software/Tegic registry key, soft reset and see ?

Hmmmm i must admitt that if you have wrote this down in chinese, the chances of me understanding this would have been not more than now :o

[avimak]

Since jmz and this release are sharing the same registry and files (although JMZ's has resized graphics and xml files) I wonder how you can really be sure that the Space issues have been solved... :)

Anyone else can confirm ?

If it will be in WVGA for my blackstone - i'll give it a try... ;)

[n3tfusion]

This is the link for the main cab:

http://www.4shared.com/file/76969175/d3415dcb/BJK_HTC_EzInput_WVGA_NoKbd_0409-RTW.html

and here you'll find the language packs:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3304868&postcount=5

Remember to install at least one language of your choice.

Thanks for the files and your quick answer :)

But don't you have any clue for my missing phone keyboard issue ? :confused:

It will be so great to have that layout :o

[DupinBJK]

But where to find those xml files ? ;)

They are in the cab, which copies them under \Windows. Do you have a cab editor ?

[DupinBJK]

Thanks for the files and your quick answer :)

But don't you have any clue for my missing phone keyboard issue ? :confused:

It will be so great to have that layout :o

You're talking about the picture in the first post, right ?
To get it, you have to enable it on the new SipMenu. But remember that the new Sipmenu isn't as gorgeus as the older one found on the HD, rather, it looks like a plain older menu. But on that, you should find the option for the Keypad....

[DupinBJK]

If it will be in WVGA for my blackstone - i'll give it a try... ;)

Mate, you have the download link on the first page for that ;)

[Krzysiec]

They are in the cab, which copies them under \Windows. Do you have a cab editor ?

Ok thnx ... i`ll look for them ;) Yes i have ...

[DupinBJK]

Hmmmm i must admitt that if you have wrote this down in chinese, the chances of me understanding this would have been not more than now :o

and you write mobile-review on your signature... :D


Well, first of all you should get a regeditor for your phone. PHM regedit should do the trick.

Then, you should go to the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9 key and edit the "DefaultLanguage" value to 0x107 (Hex).

That way, you should "force" the setting.

But I'd like to know if you can set everything via the SipMenu, first... ;)

[faw+]

and you write mobile-review on your signature... :D


Well, first of all you should get a regeditor for your phone. PHM regedit should do the trick.

Then, you should go to the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9 key and edit the "DefaultLanguage" value to 0x107 (Hex).

That way, you should "force" the setting.

But I'd like to know if you can set everything via the SipMenu, first... ;)

Well yes MOBILE review not pocket pc review lol, and at this point I have to admitt (again) that this is something too big for me, so I will take your advice you mentioned in the first post, and leave this to the experts :D
I'll just wait for a solid stable cab for dummies like me ;)
Thx anyway.

[n3tfusion]

You're talking about the picture in the first post, right ?
To get it, you have to enable it on the new SipMenu. But remember that the new Sipmenu isn't as gorgeus as the older one found on the HD, rather, it looks like a plain older menu. But on that, you should find the option for the Keypad....


Yeah i talk about the first picture :)

But i think i have this new SipMenu, but when i clic on "Clavier du téléphone" ( french equivalent for Phone Keyboard .. ), it's the classical win mobile keyboard :(

I have uploaded 2 pictures, the first one showing the menu and the Touch Input and the second one showing the menu and the classical keyword ( in background, but you see .. )

In fact, when i choose "Clavier du téléphone", my device automaticaly select the classic keyboard..

Am I missing something ?

edit : when i write a sms, the SIPmenu is more gorgeus, so this is not the same SIP ? But that doesn't work in any SIPmenu , so..

[PMDColeslaw]

how do you enable the new sip? Also is there going to be a VGA version as the WVGA makes the landscape not work on my diamond.

[DupinBJK]

Yeah i talk about the first picture :)

But i think i have this new SipMenu, but when i clic on "Clavier du téléphone" ( french equivalent for Phone Keyboard .. ), it's the classical win mobile keyboard :(

I have uploaded 2 pictures, the first one showing the menu and the Touch Input and the second one showing the menu and the classical keyword ( in background, but you see .. )

In fact, when i choose "Clavier du téléphone", my device automaticaly select the classic keyboard..

Am I missing something ?

edit : when i write a sms, the SIPmenu is more gorgeus, so this is not the same SIP ? But that doesn't work in any SIPmenu , so..


The one you see is not the new sip menu, which you can see in the attachment.

So, the "Clavier du téléphone" that you see is the older EzInput 1.5 keyboard which ships with your phone. Have you tried the latest available cab ?

[DupinBJK]

how do you enable the new sip? Also is there going to be a VGA version as the WVGA makes the landscape not work on my diamond.

There's still no automatic sip changer, so you have to select it manually.
There are already several VGA cabs around, you can find them in the previous posts. As soon as we'll get enough poll results, I'll post an updated version on the first page.

[PMDColeslaw]

There's still no automatic sip changer, so you have to select it manually.
There are already several VGA cabs around, you can find them in the previous posts. As soon as we'll get enough poll results, I'll post an updated version on the first page.

Ok I'll search for the VGA version. I'm still not sure how to manually select a different SIP menu though. I still have the original SIP from Diamond

[wanwinglo]

Using the new cab v1.3 and am getting the same problem as post #193.

Using "Touch of HD" rom v3.3, clean device and installed only the cab after a hard reset if that's any help.

Thanks for the hard work!

[DupinBJK]

Using the new cab v1.3 and am getting the same problem as post #193.

Using "Touch of HD" rom v3.3, clean device and installed only the cab after a hard reset if that's any help.

Thanks for the hard work!

The same settings work, on VGA. I'll try to check what might be happening.
Thanks !

[n3tfusion]

The one you see is not the new sip menu, which you can see in the attachment.

So, the "Clavier du téléphone" that you see is the older EzInput 1.5 keyboard which ships with your phone. Have you tried the latest available cab ?

I've got the cab 1.2, but it's seem to be an hd issue if i'm not the only one to have this keyboard missing ?
I can try the cab 1.3, we will see, maybe with luck .. :D


Thank for your help DupinBJK !

[PMDColeslaw]

Ok I read all 20 pages:eek: and I found a few VGA cabs. Does anyone know which VGA cab works best with the Diamond so far?

[Kenia1234]

Hi all,
i've just installed the last version of this keyboard with the space issue fixed and now it works really well...but...
I can select only full qwerty keyboard...how can I add or select the traditional phone keypad???????
I can't found it!!!
I've an Italian rom, version 1.14.x.xx
Please help meeeeeeee!!
A prompt reply would be really appreciated!!
Thanks! :):)

[DupinBJK]

I've got the cab 1.2, but it's seem to be an hd issue if i'm not the only one to have this keyboard missing ?
I can try the cab 1.3, we will see, maybe with luck .. :D


Thank for your help DupinBJK !

If you can wait a little more, I can send you a cab for a special test... :)

[n3tfusion]

If you can wait a little more, I can send you a cab for a special test... :)

With pleasure :)

I suppose i have nothing to fear about this cab ? :D

[Daydoo]

I installed the latest BJK_HTC_EzInput2_WVGA_NoKbd_0409-B1_3.cab
and now I want to turn back to the original SIP.
Uninstall by SK Tools worked well, but after soft reset the original SPI does not appears.
None of the HTC shiped SIP came up.

How can I get back the original SIP without hard reset???

For my gues is, I have to delete some files in the windows folder, so that after a soft reset they were out of the ROM working. But I think I'am wrong!?

Daydoo

[n3tfusion]

I installed the latest BJK_HTC_EzInput2_WVGA_NoKbd_0409-B1_3.cab
and now I want to turn back to the original SIP.
Uninstall by SK Tools worked well, but after soft reset the original SPI does not appears.
None of the HTC shiped SIP came up.

How can I get back the original SIP without hard reset???

For my gues is, I have to delete some files in the windows folder, so that after a soft reset they were out of the ROM working. But I think I'am wrong!?

Daydoo

See there :

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3374127&postcount=136

[DupinBJK]

With pleasure :)

I suppose i have nothing to fear about this cab ? :D

No need to worry, in France you have 1-year warranties... :D

Check your PM in a couple of mins...

[drunkbastard]

I've tried this on my Fuze, and the issue people have mentioned with the HW keyboard (no period, symbols instead of numbers w/ Fn key) appeared, but no issues with the SIP itself - all on-screen keys worked as they should in both portrait and landscape (unlike what some people have reported). I tried installing the Fuze keyboard fix CAB thinking that it may be a quick fix, and after a soft reset the period and numbers worked as they should... for about ten keystrokes, then the old issue resurfaced. I don't know if this helps solve the problem, but hope it gives some insight.

[PMDColeslaw]

Hey, DupinBJK, I think I may know why you were having the landscape errors with JMZ's cab when he wasnt. I installed his cab and noticed that at first the landscape was still malfunctioning, but I then realized that I always turn my phone to the right for landscape, which is really reverse landscape, so I tuned it to the left and the landscape was working fine. Not sure I explained that well enough but hope it helps.

[Daydoo]

See there :

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3374127&postcount=136

Yeahhh! that's it, thank you very much n3tfusion, it worked well.

[n3tfusion]

Yeahhh! that's it, thank you very much n3tfusion, it worked well.

It's good to know, i didn't test it yet :D

You can thanks DupinBJK for the links :)

[whatsleft4her]

is anyone working on making this qvga? been waiting to see but havent seen anything yet.

[DupinBJK]

I've tried this on my Fuze, and the issue people have mentioned with the HW keyboard (no period, symbols instead of numbers w/ Fn key) appeared, but no issues with the SIP itself

This issue is related to the hardware mappings in the Rhodium*.txt file. Keycodes are not always consistent, and probably the map use keycodes which are not good for your keyboard.

To solve this one, you should find your latest working eT9.Raphael.wwe.kmap.txt, rename it to eT9.Rhodium.wwe.kmap.txt and replace the one in your windows folder. At least, that's how it worked under EzInput 1.5.

Maybe it's the same thing that The Fuze fix does, but I don't know that fix at all...

- all on-screen keys worked as they should in both portrait and landscape (unlike what some people have reported).

"Some people" ? You are talking about me... :D

But I guess it's a timing issue, because I mainly use the Emulator, for VGA...

I tried installing the Fuze keyboard fix CAB thinking that it may be a quick fix, and after a soft reset the period and numbers worked as they should... for about ten keystrokes, then the old issue resurfaced. I don't know if this helps solve the problem, but hope it gives some insight.

Try to replace the mapping file, as above, and let me know...

Thanks !

[DupinBJK]

is anyone working on making this qvga? been waiting to see but havent seen anything yet.

Haven't I told you ? Since QVGA is not going to use the new SipMenu, it would not be possible to select layout or languages (unless of course you're using a M2D Elfin, Opal or Jade). So, first of all, we'll have to solve other issues...

You'll have to be patient...

[DupinBJK]

Hey, DupinBJK, I think I may know why you were having the landscape errors with JMZ's cab when he wasnt. I installed his cab and noticed that at first the landscape was still malfunctioning, but I then realized that I always turn my phone to the right for landscape, which is really reverse landscape, so I tuned it to the left and the landscape was working fine. Not sure I explained that well enough but hope it helps.

:confused: reverse landscape ? :confused:

[PMDColeslaw]

:confused: reverse landscape ? :confused:

Yeah I know it sounds stupid but I first noticed it with the Changescreen app. It allows you to rotate the phone and it will flash the phone's orientation on the screen as you rotate it. (ie: Portrait, Landscape, Inverted Portarait, Reverse or Inverted Landscape) The inverted Portrait is when the phone is upside down. Landscape is the volume buttons are facing downward on the phone, and reverse Landscape is when the Volume buttons are facing Upward.

[DupinBJK]

Yeah I know it sounds stupid but I first noticed it with the Changescreen app. It allows you to rotate the phone and it will flash the phone's orientation on the screen as you rotate it. (ie: Portrait, Landscape, Inverted Portarait, Reverse or Inverted Landscape) The inverted Portrait is when the phone is upside down. Landscape is the volume buttons are facing downward on the phone, and reverse Landscape is when the Volume buttons are facing Upward.

Ah, now I understand... :)

Good hint, but I think that the issue is not related to your experience. Indeed, it happens on the emulator, too, where even HTC develops its apps.
I'm almost sure that they'll fix it in a later build...

Thanks !

[PMDColeslaw]

Ah, now I understand... :)

Good hint, but I think that the issue is not related to your experience. Indeed, it happens on the emulator, too, where even HTC develops its apps.
I'm almost sure that they'll fix it in a later build...

Thanks !

Oh ok. No problem!

[whatsleft4her]

sip menu? you mean what helps you switch them from the 3 different keyboard types? well if so cant we just have a qwerty cab made? im not interested in the ofther keyboards.

[sammypwns]

[QUOTE=DupinBJK;3381572]This issue is related to the hardware mappings in the Rhodium*.txt file. Keycodes are not always consistent, and probably the map use keycodes which are not good for your keyboard.

To solve this one, you should find your latest working eT9.Raphael.wwe.kmap.txt, rename it to eT9.Rhodium.wwe.kmap.txt and replace the one in your windows folder. At least, that's how it worked under EzInput 1.5.

I tried your method and everything works except for the fn and shift keys (as in they have no effect). I think you should look at the way the Fuze keys are mapped and see if you can find a solution if you have the time. I know you are probably busy with a real job and other stuff, but I would say atleast 30% of the US members of this have a Fuze so I'd say we're a decent sized minority (The 30% is based on what I have seen browsing through the forums)

[dharvey4651]

well if so cant we just have a qwerty cab made? im not interested in the ofther keyboards.

I second this.

A cab that allows us to keep the Compact QWERTY and Phone Keypad from the standard EzInput while giving us the new Full QWERTY from the Touch Pro2 renamed to "Full QWERTY" so we can use SIPChange to select it.

Also, only make the cab for Full QWERTY and not the SIP menu or any of that as the Touch Pro uses a pretty nice SIP menu already.

[whatsleft4her]

i need qvga though

[CRACING]

Hello,

Today I have again started to convert wvga ezinput 2.0 to qvga so untill now I have completed 25% of work but still there is lot to do. Here is the screenshot.:)

Thanks and regards

[DupinBJK]

sip menu? you mean what helps you switch them from the 3 different keyboard types? well if so cant we just have a qwerty cab made? im not interested in the ofther keyboards.

First rule is to be patient. We're not daemons running on the matrix to receive wishes and immediately satisfy them...

[DupinBJK]

I tried your method and everything works except for the fn and shift keys (as in they have no effect). I think you should look at the way the Fuze keys are mapped and see if you can find a solution if you have the time. I know you are probably busy with a real job and other stuff, but I would say atleast 30% of the US members of this have a Fuze so I'd say we're a decent sized minority (The 30% is based on what I have seen browsing through the forums)

But with the map you've now copied, they worked under V1.5 (the previous suite) right ?

You're right when you say that I "should look at the way the Fuze keys are mapped", and I know exactly how to do it with V1.5, but there's probably something you don't know... I don't have a Fuze here :)

I'll ask to conflipper to check this issue, since he's using a Fuze, too. But as I said, this doesn't mean that his HW keyboard is using your same keycodes...

Meanwhile, could you post here your kmap, and try to get the codes for the wrong keys using the app which I've posted on #169 ?

[DupinBJK]

I second this.

A cab that allows us to keep the Compact QWERTY and Phone Keypad from the standard EzInput while giving us the new Full QWERTY from the Touch Pro2 renamed to "Full QWERTY" so we can use SIPChange to select it.

Also, only make the cab for Full QWERTY and not the SIP menu or any of that as the Touch Pro uses a pretty nice SIP menu already.

Nonono, it won't be possible to mix the two versions... they are using the same library but with different builds, which are not compatible. You can't mix registry settings that way...

[littld]

Hello,

Today I have again started to convert wvga ezinput 2.0 to qvga so untill now I have completed 25% of work but still there is lot to do. Here is the screenshot.:)

Thanks and regards

Good look, thanks :) looking forward to seeing this on my elfin!

[whatsleft4her]

cracing awesome work so far cant wait to try it

[deuzeff]

Hello,

Today I have again started to convert wvga ezinput 2.0 to qvga so untill now I have completed 25% of work but still there is lot to do. Here is the screenshot.:)

Thanks and regards

Many thanks for taking care of poor qvga device owners :p.

[Maikeu Locatelli]

Hello,

Today I have again started to convert wvga ezinput 2.0 to qvga so untill now I have completed 25% of work but still there is lot to do. Here is the screenshot.:)

Thanks and regards

You can make without the arrows?
great job, is very waited for me

[bbonzz]

The Keypad layout is available and working [...]
to select it, you have to use the new SipMenu [...] The layout can be forced - in Portrait mode - using the registry.

I'm on HD. Maybe i'm missing something (or i have misunderstood), but i can switch between full qwerty and phone keypad ONLY via registry (0d/0a), and not via the sipmenu (btw, i don't see any difference between the old and the new one: to me seems the same thing), where i can only change the language and select a generic "Touch Input" whose layout is the one harcoded in registry via the same 0d/oa...

[sammypwns]

But with the map you've now copied, they worked under V1.5 (the previous suite) right ?

You're right when you say that I "should look at the way the Fuze keys are mapped", and I know exactly how to do it with V1.5, but there's probably something you don't know... I don't have a Fuze here :)

I'll ask to conflipper to check this issue, since he's using a Fuze, too. But as I said, this doesn't mean that his HW keyboard is using your same keycodes...

Meanwhile, could you post here your kmap, and try to get the codes for the wrong keys using the app which I've posted on #169 ?

Yes, the map i am using works with whatever LantisOS has been using for the SIP in 4.01 after applying the Fuze fix. I applied the Fuze fix, soft reset (to make the changes take affect), copied (to my microsdhc) and renamed the map file, installed the keyboard, pasted the map file and renamed it and then soft reset again. BTW, I am using this keyboard from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485032&page=5 so might be the problem(although all Fuze owners seem to be saying the same thing) but I am planning on working on my Fuze this weekend so I will hard reset and try your keyboard and report back. I would do it tonight but my mom is gonna kill me if she finds out I'm not studying for my tests tomorrow.

Thanks again

[mouki_9]

i hope soon there will be language cabs for this fantastic keyboard!

[DupinBJK]

Yes, the map i am using works with whatever LantisOS has been using for the SIP in 4.01 after applying the Fuze fix. I applied the Fuze fix, soft reset (to make the changes take affect), copied (to my microsdhc) and renamed the map file, installed the keyboard, pasted the map file and renamed it and then soft reset again.

"LantisOS has been using for the SIP in 4.01" Uh ? 4.01 what ?

Anyway, I mean the file coming from V1.5 of EzInput, the standard one on your stock rom. I'm not talking about a map which comes from a fix made by someone else, but about the one which officially came with your phone.
That's the only one for which we can be sure about a full compatibility.

[DupinBJK]

I'm on HD. Maybe i'm missing something (or i have misunderstood), but i can switch between full qwerty and phone keypad ONLY via registry (0d/0a), and not via the sipmenu (btw, i don't see any difference between the old and the new one: to me seems the same thing), where i can only change the language and select a generic "Touch Input" whose layout is the one harcoded in registry via the same 0d/oa...

As another user has reported, it seems that the new SipMenu (which has the same look and feel of the standard WM one) doesn't always appear. Smetimes it appears in front, sometimes not.
Praobably this happens because you still have the other SipGT_app running in background, because the new one just creates a service and doesn't overwrite the old one, but I am not sure.

One thing you can do, then, is to download the new 1.4 Nokbd on the first post, install, and after a soft reset stop the old SipGT_App. Obviously that one should be entirely removed from your registry, but for the moment you might try just to stop it before using the new keyboard...

[bbonzz]

One thing you can do, then, is to download the new 1.4 Nokbd on the first post, install, and after a soft reset stop the old SipGT_App. Obviously that one should be entirely removed from your registry, but for the moment you might try just to stop it before using the new keyboard...

yes, this way works (also stopping the SipGT_App after having used the new kbd :)
Do you know for chance how to remove the old sipGT from registry, so to avoid it loads automatically?

EDIT: nevermind, found it, it's HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\BootLauncher\Apps\S IPGT_app. Actually, however, i haven't found a way to use Touch Input as defaul (also if in registry it's selected as default: done this via sktools): after reset i always have the blue kbd as default

[DupinBJK]

yes, this way works (also stopping the SipGT_App after having used the new kbd :)
Do you know for chance how to remove the old sipGT from registry, so to avoid it loads automatically?

Oh well, yes... :)

EDIT: nevermind, found it, it's HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\BootLauncher\Apps\S IPGT_app.


...and this way you won't have to blame me if you'll need to get back, 'cause you did it on your own... :D

Actually, however, i haven't found a way to use Touch Input as defaul (also if in registry it's selected as default: done this via sktools): after reset i always have the blue kbd as default

Yes, this is curious. I thought that they included the sipchange functionality in the new sipmenu service, but apparently they did not...
We should compare this with a full rom porting, to understand if it's a missing feature or a problem of this cab...

[bbonzz]

...and this way you won't have to blame me if you'll need to get back, 'cause you did it on your own... :D

Of course i've exported the registry key as backup just in case ;)

[sanspseudo23]

Hi all,
I have installed the Beta1.2 and then the Beta1.3 versions on my HTC touch HD (French version) the full azerty keyboard works fine but I don't have the Keypad. When I try to activate the Keypad it opens the default windows mobile keyboard.

[bbonzz]

Hi all,
I have installed the Beta1.2 and then the Beta1.3 versions on my HTC touch HD (French version) the full azerty keyboard works fine but I don't have the Keypad. When I try to activate the Keypad it opens the default windows mobile keyboard.

see posts above yours

[sanspseudo23]

oh yes I am sorry ;)

[sammypwns]

"LantisOS has been using for the SIP in 4.01" Uh ? 4.01 what ?

Anyway, I mean the file coming from V1.5 of EzInput, the standard one on your stock rom. I'm not talking about a map which comes from a fix made by someone else, but about the one which officially came with your phone.
That's the only one for which we can be sure about a full compatibility.

4.01 is the latest LantisOS ROM, sry. Anyways I'd really like to avoid having to find and flash the Fuze ROM so maybe someone on stock can grab that file. BTW the default Fuze SIP is slightly smaller than the regular TP keyboard but I'm not sure if that affects anything as a lot of TP cooks have switched to it.

[fotone]

Attention, I found a bug in EzInput Beta 1.4
When installing the keyboard and other keyboards do not vibrate with TouchResponse more active.
This happens if TouchResponde is set to vibrate only for keyboards.
Hello

[fotone]

Izn the end we have managed to remove the EzInput 2.0 and reinstall the standard keyboards Touch HD.
There was a process (the one that makes out the list of tatiere) in memory and that did not allow the completion of the installation.
Identified and eliminated the process with SKTools subsequent installation is successful.
About the process is complete SIPGT_app.exe.

Hello

P.S.

Cab to install the original keyboard Touch HD (English, French, Italian, German and Spanish supported)

http://mylostblog.altervista.org/software/freeware/per-experia-x1/freeware-experia-x1-tastiera-htc-touch-hd

[kezeka]

Attention, I found a bug in EzInput Beta 1.4
When installing the keyboard and other keyboards do not vibrate with TouchResponse more active.
This happens if TouchResponde is set to vibrate only for keyboards.
Hello

I don't know what all of that means, but I do know that my stock touch diamond is not vibrating when that option is turned on. Anyone else have this issue besides me?

[png6]

I have just tried to install EzInput on my 3LiT3 flashed Polaris / Touch Cruise - and the keys is really big and go off screen after installing. What am I doing wrong? I used the VGA cab with the Swedish lang-pack. Thanks in advance!

[nicholas99]

I have just tried to install EzInput on my 3LiT3 flashed Polaris / Touch Cruise - and the keys is really big and go off screen after installing. What am I doing wrong? I used the VGA cab with the Swedish lang-pack. Thanks in advance!

Because Touch Cruise is Qvga not Vga. At the moment only have VGA & WVGA. For Qvga have to wait, do give them time to making it better.

[png6]

Because Touch Cruise is Qvga not Vga. At the moment only have VGA & WVGA. For Qvga have to wait, do give them time to making it better.

OK, thanks alot. Of course ill give them time :) Its strange though - because I had it installed default with 3LIt3 but withouth the swedish lang. pack.

[DupinBJK]

Izn the end we have managed to remove the EzInput 2.0 and reinstall the standard keyboards Touch HD.
There was a process (the one that makes out the list of tatiere) in memory and that did not allow the completion of the installation.
Identified and eliminated the process with SKTools subsequent installation is successful.
About the process is complete SIPGT_app.exe.

Hello

P.S.

Cab to install the original keyboard Touch HD (English, French, Italian, German and Spanish supported)


All these infos, including the cab to reinstall, were already available in the previous posts...

[png6]

hehe, there is a QVGA version ready to download in the first page of this thread - I installed that one and it works perfectly! :) Thanks all for a great community.

[DupinBJK]

I don't know what all of that means, but I do know that my stock touch diamond is not vibrating when that option is turned on. Anyone else have this issue besides me?

The option to vibrate works only if the new touchflo coming from the pre-release roms is installed on the phone. But this thread is not about the new TouchFlo, so you'll have to find it elsewhere.