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Sleehond
7th March 2009, 04:39 PM
Hi there

I just downloaded a emulator of the nintendo DS. Right now i'm playing Pokemon on my computer :D

So my question is: can a interested developer work on a emulator or something for the Diamond, so we could play games like pokemon etc.?

Anyone interested?

wshader
7th March 2009, 04:42 PM
Google morphgear... don't think it has DS funcionality but I used to use it all the time on my Tilt

kosherpig
7th March 2009, 08:49 PM
The Diamond hasn'tgot even 1% of power required to run DS games. The idea is nice though, because both PPC and DS have a touch screen.

Blaumes
7th March 2009, 09:00 PM
I have pokemon for GBC on my diamond. PocketGNUboy i think.

nuke1
7th March 2009, 11:32 PM
The Diamond hasn'tgot even 1% of power required to run DS games. The idea is nice though, because both PPC and DS have a touch screen.
And where did you get that from? Oh, the name gives it all a way :D!

If anything, the opposite statement that DS hasn't got 1% of the Diamond's power would be true. However the reality is Diamond has, theoretically, more processor power, a better GPU for better gaming. But up till now, the GPU has never been fully utilised due to the decision of HTC and Qualcomm (the processor+GPU manufacturer.)

Sleehond
8th March 2009, 09:34 AM
I have pokemon for GBC on my diamond. PocketGNUboy i think.

I have download and installed PocketGNUboy on my Diamond right now. Now, do i just have to download a ROM of Pokemon and put it on my diamond? Or are there special roms for pocket pc's?

Mhm i downloaded a ROM of gameboy color. But i cant use the touchscreen, i need the buttons to play. And somehow that doesnt work good.....
Anyone know what to do?

Because i cant use volume buttons for example, because when i press them, the volume bar appears, and the emulator does nothing... :(

kosherpig
8th March 2009, 06:51 PM
And where did you get that from? Oh, the name gives it all a way :D!

If anything, the opposite statement that DS hasn't got 1% of the Diamond's power would be true. However the reality is Diamond has, theoretically, more processor power, a better GPU for better gaming. But up till now, the GPU has never been fully utilised due to the decision of HTC and Qualcomm (the processor+GPU manufacturer.)

From where I know? My friend has a 1,8GHz Intel Celeron CPU and NO$GBA (a DS emulator, written in assembly) ran at about 80% with no sound. How do you imagine running it on an about 3x weaker CPU?
And before you say my friend's computer sucks. If you read VisualBoyAdvance's readme file it says you need a 500MHz PIII CPU to run GBA games:
Windows: PIII 500Mhz machine for GBA emulation.
GBA has a 16.8MHz CPU. So, now you will tell that thousands of users of this program are using a underpowered emulator?

moreph34r
8th March 2009, 08:23 PM
Here's a great emulator I use on my Diamond, its MorphGear. You can play SNES, GB, GBA, NES, GameGear and SMS games on it. It requires you to pay a bit for some features(not sure what, never had the trial version for long) unless you're a pirate, but its well worth it.

http://www.spicypixel.com/web/page/morphgear/Download.aspx

Blaumes
8th March 2009, 08:36 PM
I have download and installed PocketGNUboy on my Diamond right now. Now, do i just have to download a ROM of Pokemon and put it on my diamond? Or are there special roms for pocket pc's?

Mhm i downloaded a ROM of gameboy color. But i cant use the touchscreen, i need the buttons to play. And somehow that doesnt work good.....
Anyone know what to do?

Because i cant use volume buttons for example, because when i press them, the volume bar appears, and the emulator does nothing... :(

The bottom of the screen is working as buttons. But for me there should be an image there showing the buttons but it doesnt. dont know why.

sammypwns
8th March 2009, 09:12 PM
From where I know? My friend has a 1,8GHz Intel Celeron CPU and NO$GBA (a DS emulator, written in assembly) ran at about 80% with no sound. How do you imagine running it on an about 3x weaker CPU?
And before you say my friend's computer sucks. If you read VisualBoyAdvance's readme file it says you need a 500MHz PIII CPU to run GBA games:

GBA has a 16.8MHz CPU. So, now you will tell that thousands of users of this program are using a underpowered emulator?

Your an idiot, plain and simple and your friend must be mentally challenged, too. The Diamond's processor is running at about 500mhz and has a ton or RAM whereas the DS lite has like 32MB? of RAM (the original had way less than that and it needed to be expanded by a gba memory pack to even handle web browsing) and an incredibly weak processor and it managed to run GBA games just fine. The Diamond and almost any other late 2008 ppc can handle GBA games with ease. The iPhone, running at around 600mhz, can play most of them at full speed.

I seriously doubt that you understand anything about emulation or virtualization, but basically to emulate a GBA the software has to translate commands meant for the GBA processor into commands the Diamonds processor can understand which takes a hell of a lot more resources than virtualization which uses the full CPU power like the DS when playing GBA games so it easier for the DS to play GBA but that does not mean it is more powerful.

Back to question, you can use any emulator for PPC that plays GBA games like morphgear, but some of them require a gba BIOS which I can't post the link to but if you google gba_bios.bin you should find it pretty easily. also I cant post any ROMs but any regular .gba file will work

iceblade911
8th March 2009, 10:02 PM
just use an emulator like the ones listed above or get the game boy color versions of the game

earni
8th March 2009, 10:27 PM
i use smartgear to play pokemon, works a treat

wshader
9th March 2009, 03:25 AM
In regards to the keys need a remaperer such as AEG

lattiS710
9th March 2009, 02:57 PM
i use smartgear to play pokemon, works a treat

Hey, you want to share your savefile? I played like 2 hours and then I was on my way to settings and I missclicked. I clicked reset :(

Hojlind
9th March 2009, 02:59 PM
talking about emulators i found a gba emulator for ppc which is free. havent tried it yet though but try it out :D

http://www.bashbosh.com/gameboy-advance-emulator-for-pocket-pc/

kosherpig
9th March 2009, 03:30 PM
Your an idiot, plain and simple and your friend must be mentally challenged, too. The Diamond's processor is running at about 500mhz and has a ton or RAM whereas the DS lite has like 32MB? of RAM (the original had way less than that and it needed to be expanded by a gba memory pack to even handle web browsing) and an incredibly weak processor and it managed to run GBA games just fine.
a) Because it doesn't emulate, nor virtualize, it is just backwards compatible ARM processor. And before you say GBA emuated GBC/GB. You know that GBA had simply GBC's hardware in it?
b) So tell authors of emulators they suck - they can't emulate a tiny GBA cpu with less than 500MHz. Or two NDS CPUs with total clock about 100MHz reuiresgigahertz computer(from website of NO$GBA, a program which emulates NDS, and does it fast).
c) Get yourself a eee pc, MSI Wind, or any other netbook and show me ANY NDS emulator running fullspeed.

The Diamond and almost any other late 2008 ppc can handle GBA games with ease. The iPhone, running at around 600mhz, can play most of them at full speed.Have you noticed that I was talking about NDS?

I seriously doubt that you understand anything about emulation or virtualization, but basically to emulate a GBA the software has to translate commands meant for the GBA processor into commands the Diamonds processor can understand which takes a hell of a lot more resources than virtualization which uses the full CPU power like the DS when playing GBA games so it easier for the DS to play GBA but that does not mean it is more powerful.If you actually paid attention to what I wrote, you would see that I simply show that having 10x better CPU clock doesn't mean you can emulate a game.

lattiS710
9th March 2009, 04:26 PM
talking about emulators i found a gba emulator for ppc which is free. havent tried it yet though but try it out :D

I got like 5-6 fps when I played pokemon red fire, any idea how to increase the fps? :)

Hojlind
9th March 2009, 09:34 PM
I got like 5-6 fps when I played pokemon red fire, any idea how to increase the fps? :)

no clue :) i just got home and tried it out and it wont even install on my diamond so i cant help you there ;)

sammypwns
9th March 2009, 10:30 PM
a) Because it doesn't emulate, nor virtualize, it is just backwards compatible ARM processor. And before you say GBA emuated GBC/GB. You know that GBA had simply GBC's hardware in it?
b) So tell authors of emulators they suck - they can't emulate a tiny GBA cpu with less than 500MHz. Or two NDS CPUs with total clock about 100MHz reuires(from website of NO$GBA, a program which emulates NDS, and does it fast).
c) Get yourself a eee pc, MSI Wind, or any other netbook and show me ANY NDS emulator running fullspeed.

Have you noticed that I was talking about NDS?

If you actually paid attention to what I wrote, you would see that I simply show that having 10x better CPU clock doesn't mean you can emulate a game.

yes i do know that nintendo did just incorporate the gbc processor onto the mb of the gba. however the ds does not have that so it virtualizes the gba/gbc environment, and the ds does this at full speed with a very weak processor. emulation takes way more resources but any pc with a graphics card, even an intel gma, can run gba games at full speed. are you using the gba bios? try VBA on your pc and let me know how fast it plays? I pointed out the the iPhone can run GBA games at full speed with gpsphone so wy can't the diamond, which has a dedicated video card, albeit slightly slower processor?

Arju007
9th March 2009, 10:47 PM
looking at this thread made me install morphgear and i also registered some of the freatures and so forth .. well anyway.. just to say, what the horse... GBA is not running smooth... it's not even running on original speed... well it does come down to developement.. the specs of the phone is good enough for GBA i guess.. well GBC works perfect.. haven't tried other types of emul, on morphgear... well i really wanted to play pokemon emerald but no way, i can't because the emulator is to slow for me to be patient to finish it... i have a Raphael BTW.. well from being a symbian user in many years and coming from a nokia n95 phone which does emulate GBA games perfect and more than perfect, this kinda dissappoints me but i'm not going to cry as i remember when the first beta for emulating GBA on symbian was way slow.. well even my nokia n70 runned GBA in a over perfect speed... well it all comes down to developement..
as for NDS, it is possible but nothing we can expect to come fast at this moment.. we might want to wait and see,... ;)

haixoai
10th March 2009, 02:53 AM
I run PocketGBA on my diamond and it emulates any GBA game at 100% o.o

earni
10th March 2009, 03:28 AM
does anyone else have issues with controls on the diamond?
smartgear is fine for pokemon because it requires no urgency and only ever needs one button pushed at a time but other games such as sonic the hedgehog are so difficult to control

MikeEx
10th March 2009, 03:42 AM
I run PocketGBA on my diamond and it emulates any GBA game at 100% o.o

What is your secret?

haixoai
10th March 2009, 05:19 PM
Actually, it runs with full frames, but I can't get the sound to run correctly. It's not that the diamond isn't fast enough though.. Because I can turn the sound on and keep the games running smoothly, but the sound doesn't emulate right.

I just have to turn off the auto frame skip option

lattiS710
10th March 2009, 11:19 PM
I've played pokemon sapphire since yesterday (lvl 20 ;)) and it's been running at 20-30 fps and that's more than enough!

I've only found one bug, sometimes when the screen has turned black, and I've putted it on again. It all have looked like a bluescreen, without the blue color! To solve problem: Reset phone. What sucks? If you haven't saved...:(

anyway, PocketGBA rules

Andy7
4th June 2009, 09:03 AM
y ur so rude....


LET PEOPLE MAKE WISHES....

AND POKEMON 4EVER....