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defroster
2nd April 2009, 10:24 AM
Well it's been a long time coming but I'm finally giving up on microsoft to produce a decent handheld OS. I've used the XDA's since the first one, I've owned an XDA, XDAII, mini, jamin, k-jam and a polaris and I can honestly say that the OS has not improved one iota all these years.

No i'm not going with the iPhone, I'm going to get a simple old nokia and just use a UMPC for any mobile trickery needed.

This is NOT a jab at all the brilliant developers of this community which have carried MS's cash cow all these years on their shoulders - you truly were the ONLY reason to buy a PocketPC.

Here's hoping things improve, but don't hold your breath.

*Polaris eBayed*

addicus
2nd April 2009, 10:31 AM
I give him 3 weeks.

syqe
2nd April 2009, 10:56 AM
I give him 3 weeks.

lulz indeed

icarusjun
2nd April 2009, 02:30 PM
i give him 4 weeks... hehe

Ev0luti0n_
2nd April 2009, 03:13 PM
considering the amount of mobile phones he has had with WinMO, it will be a huge shock to go back to a nokia... He will for sure be back soon! :D:p Just a crisis like we all have some times...

orb3000
2nd April 2009, 07:07 PM
IŽll stick to WM till Android has a more stable and mature OS
Symbian and Iphone systems never!

galaxys
3rd April 2009, 12:27 AM
Well best of luck with the OS change. We'll be here if you decide to return someday...

Gundem
3rd April 2009, 04:51 AM
I will join this guy as soon as the next Android drops.

lasterato
3rd April 2009, 05:21 AM
considering the amount of mobile phones he has had with WinMO, it will be a huge shock to go back to a nokia... He will for sure be back soon! :D:p Just a crisis like we all have some times...

I went to a nokia after the jasjam aka: tytn. It took me 8 months to come back :P

Bulldog
3rd April 2009, 09:26 AM
I think Defroster has been understood wrongly. As I believe he doesn’t think there is better OS but he just voicing out his disappointments of MS and WinMo improvements.

I have to say I fully AGREE with him on this.

My device history is almost the same. The reason that I bought my first WinMo was to combine PDA with Phone so that I don’t need to carry 2 devices. I paid for my first device (2002) almost 1000USD. Many of my friends and colleagues thought I am crazy to spend so much money.
Yes it was not fully Phone but also not fully a PDA (computer) but I though just hang on for couple months then MS will improve the things tremendously.

But look to the changes/improvement that WinMo has made in last 7-8 years which are in my opinion Almost Nill. However the devices cost still ca.1000USD..

Be frank just for comparison: Do we see any desktop software that has almost the same capability and same UI after 8 years???….but cost the same money??

Furthermore look in to the upcoming WinMO 6.5. I believe it is just ridiculous to put such crap in to the market after 1-2 years development by a Huge Company like Microsoft. Again I don’t see any improvements and Still there is nothing out of the box..

If I would be Bill Gates I would immediately Fire all the WinMo Team. It is unacceptable for Engineering company to rest on a product for more than 8 years and don’t have any major changes. The best example for such behavior is the American Auto Industry.

Ohh well It is well known that if a Company is to large the efficiency of that company compare to middle sized one much much lesser but they DO have longer breath.

Yes Yes I know the bad thing is there are no much better alternatives right now.

However same As Defroster I am considering getting better value for same money (1000 USD) Therefore I am seriously Looking to the new 9-10inch Netbooks like Asus Eee ; Acer aspire, MSI Wind etc. They are costing less than 500 USD (some of them around 300USD) those have Standard battery live up to 8hous. Additionally I am thinking to get one of those simple Smart phones like HTC Excalibur or Cavalier. Yes that would set me back again 8 years but I get better value for my money and can be much more productive then I am with a single expensive toy…

m6silver
3rd April 2009, 01:16 PM
I too totally agree. Microsoft is such a big company and yet it never deliver what a user want or need for so many years! Is it that they have no Competitors for the pass 8 years?

The biggest change I saw was when HTC came out with TouchFlo 3D. Nice cool looking interface, smooth scrolling, Finger friendly, Easy access to messaging, web, ETC. And they are only just covering up the ugly part of microsoft winmo. And HTC did it in just a short time. Even now with the new Winmo 6.5, the Titanium screen looks crappy! The font on the screen are so ugly, the item list covering the whole screen. scrolling thru the list is a torture to my eyes. It scroll the list not the selection!!

I believe with enough time Android will be far ahead.

Psygnosis84
3rd April 2009, 01:20 PM
Let us all cross our fingers than 6.5 becomes a flop.

Don't you remember what happened to the flop we call Vista? The successor Windows 7 has fixed all those bugs and works like a proper OS.

Hopefully a flop will make them realize that they need to take their finger out and actually produce something decent (not saying WinMo is bad or anything).

Srem
3rd April 2009, 02:30 PM
/me joining the android bandwagon asap. For sure the OS for the future

bjy8138
3rd April 2009, 03:11 PM
PPC is too good to be replaced..
I definately won't change back to nokia, SE or any non WM devices..
I need alot of medical softwares.. and those can't provide any decent 1

DhaMajoR
4th April 2009, 01:28 AM
Ehhh, If you think about it, Microsoft is always going to be a Big Company.

orb3000
4th April 2009, 01:56 AM
Ehhh, If you think about it, Microsoft is always going to be a Big Company.

Oh yes! another great comment!:eek:

And Cocacola too

DhaMajoR
4th April 2009, 02:12 AM
Oh yes! another great comment!:eek:

And Cocacola too

Okay mister 2000 Posts... Will im at 100 ,
Another genius!

josefcrist
4th April 2009, 02:34 AM
i am fine with the way it looks. if you are unhappy with the software make your own; or find some one else to make some for you.

addicus
4th April 2009, 03:03 AM
i am fine with the way it looks. if you are unhappy with the software make your own; or find some one else to make some for you.

I don't either. There are many choices for looks. It can look like nearly anything out there. Flexibility. Name of the game.

ryanlow134
13th April 2009, 01:08 PM
everyone has their own point of view,
as for me?
i think its good as long as this forum is up and running
lots of ppl hlps ere so i dun care what microsoft does...

billybobjones
13th April 2009, 01:22 PM
after owning my first Windows Mobile device... i can safely say.... i am never making that mistake again.

As soon as i can.. switching to Blackberry

Byrdi
13th April 2009, 01:45 PM
I would say wait for 6.5 before droping windows mobile. The 6.5 looks pretty good and it has improvements witch there was asked for.

sureideas
13th April 2009, 07:06 PM
You are right when you say there is no better alternative.. I felt it long back and dumped it for Nokia. Not that Nokia is better but to express my anger. Need of the hour is give a shock and I know there are thousands out there doing it too...
Improvement is the need of the hour

akash_84
13th April 2009, 11:13 PM
I consider myself very lucky in that I get a chance to play for however long I want, all the devices that come to the market.

Being in the repair field, I get all the units as soon as they come out - and being the gadget freak that I am, I will not be scared in trying them out - be it a Nokia 1100 or a Touch HD

I also find I am one of the handful of people who can truely compare the devices like for like, side for side although bias can come into this - for instance, I am not an apple fan so that straight away says no for the iphone...for me anyway.

OK to the point now...

I like the op has has a windows device for a long time... way before they integrated the phone into it - Ipaq 22xx rings a bell and it was not even in colour!

I've always been a fan of them even if Mobile 6.1 has only ever been the real visual change that was major (almost like windows 3.1 to 95)

However, for about 6months, I changed to an N95 8GB Black after selling my Tytn2. This was until the Diamond had come out
It was the only one at the time I found comparible to the Tytn2 in features - keyboard.

Soon I almost and I stress almost forgot I was not using a windows device but before you know it, I was back on the windows device

As good as Nokia is in making a "phone" and not a brick - and lets face it, most HTC devices are bricky/bulky no matter how sexy you make them...
You just dont feel the satisfaction.

Communities like XdaDev have offered and input hours on hours of work to make the gadgets we have really function as ...well whatever you want - that lacks with the likes of Nokia and SE

I don't know why I put all the blurb above - What I meant to say is whether its a Blackberry Storm, or a Nokia N97 or a SE... I seem to keep coming back to HTC

addicus
15th April 2009, 06:07 AM
I think the main problem with WinMo is carrier bloatware. The phones suck straight out the box and you have to come here to get it right.
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The next problem is unlike Palm, Apple and BB Microsoft isn't doing the advertising for the products. They've always left this up to the carriers which is why the phones come with the crippling bloatware. Apple and BB basically control all aspects of thier phones and the products available for them. A lot of people really like that and feel the companies are 'more interested' in the product. I don't believe this.
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Problem 3 - Processors and internal memory. 200 and 400mHz processors are just ridiculous. At this point no phone should come with less than 540mHz processors and 258mb of internal memory. Slow processors and low memory don't allow for the phones to multitask properly and the operating system takes the heat for it. This is a gripe I've always had. Also the proper drivers for video play should be available or the devices become a dissapointment. Thank you Qualcomm.
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Problem 4 - instant gratification. That is the call nowadays. People just want it to work and work out the box. Who can blame them when many of these devices cost $300 plus and a 2 year contract? I've seen the American automobile industry fall prey to these complaints without a fix and we all know where that is presently.