Help needed for Upgrade...

[peppercon]

Hi,

I have an O2 XDA Orbit and I need to upgrade that to WM6.1, currently I have WM6.0 Pro running on it....i have been reading threads relating to the upgrade but i rather got confused...i really need somebody to explain me the following please:

1. Can my phone be upgraded to WM6.1?
2. If yes then how can I do this in a secure way without risking my phone?

I would really appreciate your efforts...Oh just in case you might need the info, I've detailed my "Device Information" below:

Windows Mobile 6 Professional
CE OS 5.2.1238 (Build 17745.0.2.3)
Processor: OMAP850-201MHz
ROM version: 3.4.206.2 WWE
ROM date: 4/18/07
Radio version: 02.67.90
Protocol version: 4.1.13.28
ExtROM version: 3.4.206.101
RAM size: 64 MB

THANKS!!

[sualc]

1. Yes, your phone can be upgraded to WM 6.1
2. The operation is not riskless, but you can minimize those risks by reading carefully posts concerning CID unlocking and flashing...start from here and good luck: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Artemis

[peppercon]

well i got the idea pretty much and thx for ur reply appreciate it but now where can i find ROMs and which one will be good for my phone...and i also read tht my radio version shud be the same as the ROM version now how shud i check dat??

[sualc]

Windows Mobile and radio builds have different serial numbers, you'll never have the same ;).Just choose what you like the most.. ROMS are here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_DumpedRoms and radios are here:http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_RadioUpgrades. Obviously your device MUST be CID unlocked first. Take time to read a little bit..I can't flash it for you from my home :D
P.S: Our device is very versatile but not so powerful (low ram & cpu), I suggest to choose a ROM that doesnt have useless heavy graphic complications..No "cubes" nor "manillas" or whatsoever...It may look pretty but quite unusable, but this is just an opinion

[peppercon]

lolxx of course u cant...alright now 1st i need to CID unlock my phone den select the preffered ROM upgrade and den do i need to upgrade my Radio version aswell or shud i leave tht (optional)

[peppercon]

lolxx of course u cant but i just wanted a suggestion as to which ROM shud i select which will look good and flashy since u guys knw better...alright now 1st i need to CID unlock my phone den select the preffered ROM upgrade and den do i need to upgrade my Radio version aswell or shud i leave tht (optional)

[sualc]

Radio upgrade is optional (theoretically) but if never done , i suggest to do it. Can greatly improve gsm ,wifi, gps reception and battery consumption. Anyway as you can see I'm only a normal member of this forum (with a bit of experience), don't take what i say as gold!

[peppercon]

oh ok...so the thread u mentioned for the ROM upgrade der were like 15-20 upgrades one said : WM6 from Orbit English 3.4.207.1 02.69.90 4.1.13.28 17745.0.2.3....is this for upgrade frm WM6.0 to WM6.1 or WM5.0 to WM6.0?

and then there are some which goes by the name of WM6.1 B&B v5.0, PDAVIET WM6.1, Greasy Weasel Evolution 2.x, Mossi meets Anja31 v1, Fredelius WM6.1 so which one shud i go for???

[sualc]

As you can see from my signature, my ROM is in italian, i'm afraid you're not interested in..otherwise i would recommend it straight away (even if its already 1.5 years old..).I'm extremely happy with it, tried many others (included pdaviet 6.5) and quickly returned to it. There is no "the best rom of all", each one has pros and bugs..must try and try again...The general rule in my opinion is to look for a light,clean updated Windows build that includes the latest patches (e.g. for bigger memcards, for camera,bluetooth etcetera). No need to look for a ROM that expressely says it's for Orbit...just choose a WM6 or 6.1 from Artemis section

[peppercon]

Thanks bro u've been a big help...caio

[sualc]

It was a pleasure, no big deal..I understand that at the beginning one's little bit scared ;) and has many doubts...that is why I insist that you DO READ CAREFULLY instructions and the forum in general..A couple of last hints: CID unlocking i necessary only ONCE, after that you can flash all the coocked roms you want. If I'm not wrong, radio upgrade doesnt need CID unlocking, you can do it before all operation without risk nothing. CIAO
If you have news (hope good) about your upgrade let me now!

[peppercon]

for sure!!

[sualc]

ah, just wondering..don't have experience in it, but as you have an "Orbit", doesnt that mean that it is also SIM locked? Maybe you have some additional steps to do, check it!

[peppercon]

No it isnt i have a different network SIM then O2 in the phone for abt 2 years...if tht is wht u mean by SIM locked??

[sualc]

Yes it's what I meant.Well it's a good start..I was looking around for some ROMs for you, unfortunately some screenshots have been removed from the latest ones but let me link one as an example : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364883. It is not the very latest build but I rembember it was woking very well. Obviously,i'd choose the NON CUBE version

[peppercon]

oh thx as a matter of fact i have downloaded the same ROM wid the cube before u mentioned abt it :) ...and yeh it looked good lets c how it works

[peppercon]

before CID unlocking my phone i tried to update the Radio ROM but when i pressed update it showed me da current ROM version and the version it will be which was 1.00.00000 however i downloaded the 3.34.90...anyways i continued and after 79% it gave me an error[290] saying the image was corrupted...den i downloaded the ROM from a different link and the same problem...any idea whts goin on??

[sualc]

Try another source or try my radio : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374430
If problem persists go with CID unlock.

[sualc]

UPDATE:

YOU HAVE TO UNLOCK phone before upgrading the radio aswell, I've just read it at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_RadioUpgrades, it says "You need to flash Artemis USPL before flashing these radios, for more info refere to the USPL thread". Cmon man!! take a little time to read!

[peppercon]

well lemme tell u im running vista on my laptop but then i have a PC which is has XP...i've tried on both its the same error...after trying to update the Radio ROM i tried the CID Unlock...after the DOS process the phone screen goes blank and den the tri color screen appears which eventually installs the ROM to unlock but then again its the same error as earlier wid the Radio ROM upgrade :confused:

[sualc]

what is your situation now? old ROM&radio? is it still working??:eek:
Remember to remove Sim and SD when you do such operations

[peppercon]

well everything is running fine now...thank god!...lemme try it again...so do i need to take my SIM card out while doing the CID Upgrade??...i already took the SD card out

[peppercon]

i mean the ROM and Radio are the old ones

[sualc]

Good, so before damage is done let's cool down..until now i was so lucky that I never had problems, but that also means that i'm not very good in troubleshooting...i'll tell in a minute what programs I use, just to be sure..

[sualc]

download Artemis_USPL.zip from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311403

[peppercon]

i downloaded the CID Unlocker frm here earlier tht is wht im using!!...temme wht are the indications dat i have CID Unlocked my phone??

[sualc]

when you switch on your device the first numbers you can read on top left of your screen should be: IPL 3.13.0001
SPL 1.11.0000

[peppercon]

nope its IPL: 3.04.0001 SPL: 3.04.0000

[peppercon]

i also have the Spb Mobile Shell 3.0 installed on my phone and its running all the time even after the soft reset...does tht matters??

[sualc]

what can I say, retry..but also read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308242
Mobile shell isnt a problem

[peppercon]

so after when the DOS screen goes off and it brings up the ROM flashing dialog box at tht time my screen is blank and vista installs some kinda drivers to it and when the drivers are installed and i continue wid da wizard it again after a while flashes an error saying either ur phone is not hooked to a USB cable or the cradle and the screen remains blank...so it normal and i have to wait for a while for the tri colored screen to show up??

[sualc]

wait...but shouldnt take hours.....its normal that at a certain point the usb connection is lost

[peppercon]

yes not hrs but yeh the USB connection does get lost so its normal and i shud wait??

[sualc]

Have you installed on your PCs the "active sync for Vista" called Windows Mobile Device Center? Hope yes.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/device-center-download.mspx

[peppercon]

yes i have tht

[sualc]

Make sure you have a connection when you start USPL, then it should go...if the error persists you need someone more skilled than me :confused:

[peppercon]

well i did establish the connection before starting the USPL but den it looses the connection when the device goes blank...

[sualc]

try to install latest MS .NET Framework: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5&displaylang=en

Advice taken here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326380

[peppercon]

ok lets try this aswell...hope this works...thx anywayz man :)

[peppercon]

oh well i downloaded the .NET Framework 2.0 and found out its already in da system :p

[peppercon]

OK now i tried the USPL once more wht happens is tht it goes through the DOS process and when tht is over WMDC (Windows Mobile Device Center) looses connection wid da phone but immediately the USB icon pops up in da task bar...now the device is still blank (i mean da screen) and the ROM Update Utility dialog box pops up now 2 questions:

1. shud i wait for the screen to go tri color and den go ahead wid the ROM Update process and If yes then how long shud i supposedly wait (coze i waited for 10mins but nothin happened)? :confused:

2. Should I go ahead wid the ROM Update Utility process and the tri-color screen will eventually appear as a result of it? If yes then i've tried tht too and nothin happens except tht the ROM Update Utility software says "Verifying the Phone Info..." and after a while error shows up reading: ERROR [260] UPDATE ERROR The Update Utility cannot connect to your phone. Please check that your USB cable/cradle is connected properly between your PC and your phone.":confused::confused::confused::confused:

[sualc]

Must be something weird about Vista WMDC, im trying right now to do a stupid thing such as change my splashscreen and I get the same error!!!I don't remember the exact flashing procedure, i have one "all in one" (uspl+flash) italian flash utility..

[sualc]

I'm running out of solutions...hope someone gets this S.O.S..If nobody has a clue,I suggest to try to flash under XP.That's all...for today..Bye

[sualc]

UPDATE: I managed to solve my little problem..I know it was not exactly the same as yours, peppercorn (you fail USPL, I failed a splashscreen flash) but as the error code was the same i'll tell you what happened...I tried to update Vista drivers for my artemis found at http://www.forummobiles.com/index.php?showtopic=139079&st=0&p=1399080&#entry1399080, at step 2....but Vista said they were already updated.So I removed the memory card and tried again..at my third attempt error [260] disappeared and it worked ! I think the flashing procedure should go like this: launch start_uspl,screen device goes black and disconnects,device enters bootloader (tricolor screen),progress bar on your pc starts to increase..Anyway I think that a WHITE screen is not a good sign..in fact I had this when my upgrade failed..Maybe you've read around that it is possible to flash a device from the memory card but still you must unlock the device first and I don't know if that can be done by SD card..

[peppercon]

hey...finally i was successful i flashed da ROM and the Radio...i did it in XP though....thx for all ur help again mate!!! ;):)

[sualc]

:DTHAT'S GREAT NEWS!!!! B-R-A-V-O ! No probs for "my help", if it works everyone's happier:D

[peppercon]

well i was exploring the new OS for a while and i came across the PDA settings where i found the BioTouch i configured it but nothin happened and tht cube thingy never really works or is an option i need to enable for it to work?

[sualc]

1. Now you successfully flashed, i think you're going off-topic in this thread, you should ask in the ROM thread
2. I don't have that ROM, though I can't help you
3. I told you not to choose Cube versions!;):D

[peppercon]

hmmm...its ok