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NightRaven
11th June 2009, 11:06 PM
CDMA Treo Pro Kitchen WM6.5 build 21857

CDMA Treo Pro Kitchen (http://www.4shared.com/file/134563610/69f011ad/Panther_Rom_Kitchen.html) - For information about Ervius Visual Kitchen, and the lastest 6.5 builds and fixes, go here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544445).

NightRaven
11th June 2009, 11:06 PM
How to remove the infinite wait cursor from the today screen.


Covert the shellres.128.dll from a module to a file using recmod.exe.
Open the resulting shellres.128.dll file using a resource editor.
Delete all of the images for the wait cursor.
Save the changes to shellres.128.dll.
Covert the shellres.128.dll file back into a module using reversemode.exe.
Cook and flash a new rom with the changes.
This will remove the wait cursor all together, so you will no longer see it anywhere!

NightRaven
11th June 2009, 11:07 PM
3.) Reserved for future use...

NightRaven
11th June 2009, 11:07 PM
4.) Reserved for future use...

vladimir2989
12th June 2009, 12:13 AM
im tempted to try, what are the odds of success ? success:failure ? 50:50 80:10 ??? and can some one post an origenal rom for Unlocked Treo pro ? GSM version so i have something to recover from...

BTW i have UNLOCKED Treo these willl not Lock it right ?

NightRaven
12th June 2009, 12:19 AM
im tempted to try, what are the odds of success ? success:failure ? 50:50 80:10 ??? and can some one post an origenal rom for Unlocked Treo pro ? GSM version so i have something to recover from...

BTW i have UNLOCKED Treo these willl not Lock it right ?

I sure they wont re-lock it. However the OEM in this rom is for the Sprint CDMA version. I'm pretty sure it won't function correctly on the unlocked GSM. The CDMA versions are pretty different.

As for odds of success, I have no idea. No one to my knowledge has tried the MicroSD update method, and I build the rom with a kitchen I've never used before. I just can't test until I actually get a Treo Pro on Monday.

vladimir2989
12th June 2009, 02:19 AM
ok i wait and see what hapens on monday, and if u succeed than u think u can make a GSM version of 6.5 ?

NightRaven
12th June 2009, 02:22 AM
ok i wait and see what hapens on monday, and if u succeed than u think u can make a GSM version of 6.5 ?

I would need a rom dump from your phone. All of the raw parts using itsutils would be best. That's how I'm going to backup my alltel rom when I get the phone.

khalaan
12th June 2009, 02:49 AM
I couldn't get my phone to boot from the SD at all, I may need to reformat it to try but even from the stock rom it wouldn't boot. It is possible this is an issue with the SPL-0.37.0000

vladimir2989
12th June 2009, 03:31 AM
I would need a rom dump from your phone. All of the raw parts using itsutils would be best. That's how I'm going to backup my alltel rom when I get the phone.

ok, i have no experience in dumping ROMs, never did it, and i played with Sony Ericson x1 Kitchen few times trying to make my own room but there its so simplified anyone can do it, so could u give me a link to tools i will need to do a ROM dump and is it same as for other HTC devices ? (can i use manuals from other device threds to do these etc)

guide lines are appreciated...

NightRaven
12th June 2009, 03:34 AM
I couldn't get my phone to boot from the SD at all, I may need to reformat it to try but even from the stock rom it wouldn't boot. It is possible this is an issue with the SPL-0.37.0000

Make sure it's FAT32, and use a normal sd not sdhc. Then hold the volume up and powerbutton while inserting the battery. Once it's in bootloader mode, hitting the power button again should start the flash processes. See the HTC service Manual for directions.

http://rapidshare.com/files/209487650/HTC_PantherC_SM_A01.pdf

vladimir2989
12th June 2009, 03:41 AM
Some guy here refers to method of flashing withud Hard-SPL thing... maybe he can be of help 2 U NightRaven (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=639546)....

Topogigi (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=262620) http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif
Member


We flashed cooked roms long before HardSPL. I flashed a custom rom on a HTC Wizard when HardSPL was still in Olipro's dreams.... :)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3940598&postcount=11

NightRaven
12th June 2009, 03:45 AM
Some guy here refers to method of flashing withud Hard-SPL thing... maybe he can be of help 2 U NightRaven (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=639546)....



http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3940598&postcount=11

I'm pretty sure this is how. Without a hard-spl, the only other way is to use itsutils to write the rom back to the device, but that is dangerous.

vladimir2989
12th June 2009, 03:52 AM
oh, ok, well if u can point me the right direction i will make a dump of unlocked GSM version of WM6.1... for anyone who may need to recover... hopefully u can make 6.5 for us and it all gona work

but now im going to sleep its almost 3am :( lol

NightRaven
12th June 2009, 03:54 AM
oh, ok, well if u can point me the right direction i will make a dump of unlocked GSM version of WM6.1... for anyone who may need to recover... hopefully u can make 6.5 for us and it all gona work

but now im going to sleep its almost 3am :( lol

I'll get some directions put together. It will take some time, because some of the settings are different between devices, and I won't have something to test with until Monday.

flash67
12th June 2009, 05:18 AM
Can this work on a Telus CDMA Treo Pro?

Topogigi
12th June 2009, 08:54 AM
Don't even try to flash a rom built for a CDMA Treo Pro on a GSM Treo Pro. The best thing you can obtain is a brick. In order to dump you rom, here you'll find a complete tutorial in the wiki:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_HowToDumpOSManually

you can carefully follow the steps...

xdw5251
12th June 2009, 09:06 AM
Don't even try to flash a rom built for a CDMA Treo Pro on a GSM Treo Pro. The best thing you can obtain is a brick. In order to dump you rom, here you'll find a complete tutorial in the wiki:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_HowToDumpOSManually

you can carefully follow the steps...



i hope you are lucky boy!!!!!

wait for your good news!

dnt408
12th June 2009, 09:40 AM
NightRaven,

I just tried your Rom but it doesn't work. It seems like you're still missing something. It stuck on the gray screen and says "Loading..." Just to confirm I didn't do anything wrong, I extracted the rom from the sprint 1.04 and it did work. Also seems like your Rom is smaller than the official Rom 73MB vs 140MB. Anyways if you have another one to try out, let me know and I'll try it out. Thanks for the hardwork!


OK. I have built a WM6.5 rom for the Sprint Treo Pro (It's all I had for an OEM dump. Alltel will come monday night when I get my new phone.). I have not tested this, becuase I have not yet received my phone. Are there any BRAVE sprint users out there that want to give it a try. You will be testing two things.

1.) Does the microSD card update described in the Treo Pro Service Manual work with unsigned roms?

2.) Does my 6.5 rom work?

Make sure you have a backup of the current sprint rom! Hopefully if it there is a problem, you can reflash the sprint rom for the 1.04 update. If you don't have it, get it off of Palms support website.

I HAVE NOT TESTED THIS PROCESS OR THE ROM YET!
I WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR A BRICKED DEVICE!
ATTEMPT WITH CAUTION!



MicroSD Card Update Instructions
Format the micro-SD card as FAT32.
Rename the file from rru_signed.nbh to pantimg.nbh
Copy the pantimg.nbh file onto micro-SD card.
Insert the micro-SD card in the Treo Pro.
Put handset into boot loader mode by pressing power and volume up button.
Press power button to activate the re-flash procedure.
Windows Mobile 6.5 Roms

Alpha 1 - WM6.5 21234 XIP and SYS (http://www.4shared.com/file/111257462/ee1c7cd/Alpha_1_SPNT_WM65_21234_Treo_Pro.html) - Untested!

Topogigi
12th June 2009, 01:55 PM
NightRaven,

I just tried your Rom but it doesn't work. It seems like you're still missing something. It stuck on the gray screen and says "Loading..." Just to confirm I didn't do anything wrong, I extracted the rom from the sprint 1.04 and it did work. Also seems like your Rom is smaller than the official Rom 73MB vs 140MB. Anyways if you have another one to try out, let me know and I'll try it out. Thanks for the hardwork!

73 Mb is only the OS part. I don't think that such a thing will work.... WM 6.5 OS with WM 6.1 XIP? mmmmmhhh.....

flash67
12th June 2009, 02:58 PM
Would it be worth it if i tried dumping the rom on my Telus treo pro?

Topogigi
12th June 2009, 04:34 PM
Would it be worth it if i tried dumping the rom on my Telus treo pro?

Why not? I've just finished to dump my italian no-brand GSM treo pro rom. Now I'll try to rebuild it from the dump and flash it....

NightRaven
12th June 2009, 04:35 PM
NightRaven,

I just tried your Rom but it doesn't work. It seems like you're still missing something. It stuck on the gray screen and says "Loading..." Just to confirm I didn't do anything wrong, I extracted the rom from the sprint 1.04 and it did work. Also seems like your Rom is smaller than the official Rom 73MB vs 140MB. Anyways if you have another one to try out, let me know and I'll try it out. Thanks for the hardwork!

OK. So we know the sd card update method works at least with the sprint rom. There is a problem with my 6.5 rom, which I'm not suprised about. It's the first time I've used an Ervius kitchen. I will build another rom on Monday, after I pick up my Treo Pro. If anyone here knows how to setup the Ervius Kitchens let me know, I'd like to compare the settings.

NightRaven
12th June 2009, 04:44 PM
Would it be worth it if i tried dumping the rom on my Telus treo pro?

Yes! At the very least, you will have the carrier specific OEM, and a backup if you need to flash back to the original once my customs roms are working. Once you have your dump, post it and send me a link. I'll use the OEM portion as a base for a Telus 6.5 rom.

Topogigi
12th June 2009, 04:44 PM
OK. So we know the sd card update method works at least with the sprint rom. There is a problem with my 6.5 rom, which I'm not suprised about. It's the first time I've used an Ervius kitchen. I will build another rom on Monday, after I pick up my Treo Pro. If anyone here knows how to setup the Ervius Kitchens let me know, I'd like to compare the settings.

You definately need to port the XIP from another WM6.5 rom to the treo pro before even try to cook the OS part. Let's do it gradually and we'll find a way together, uh?

I'd like to thank you anyway: you made us aware that something is moving here.... :)

NightRaven
12th June 2009, 04:48 PM
Why not? I've just finished to dump my italian no-brand GSM treo pro rom. Now I'll try to rebuild it from the dump and flash it....

That would be awesome! That will tell us if an unsigned rom with flash using the SD card method. If that works, then I just need to get my kitchen working correctly, and we will all have a pretty 6.5 rom!

NightRaven
12th June 2009, 05:01 PM
You definately need to port the XIP from another WM6.5 rom to the treo pro before even try to cook the OS part. Let's do it gradually and we'll find a way together, uh?

I'd like to thank you anyway: you made us aware that something is moving here.... :)

I thought I included the new XIP in the rom. This new kitchen is very different then the others I've used. I'll have to add the XIP manually in the next rom. There is no way I would get a Treo Pro, and not pursue a custom rom. There is always a way. It took me three months to get 6.1 working on the 700wx. I was working on porting 6.5 when it died. The 700wx needed a newer display driver for 6.5 to work. I was going to write one myself if I had too.

Topogigi
12th June 2009, 05:18 PM
BTW, I noticed that ExtROM in our roms is more than 100Mb... That's for sure the space where all the windows utilities are stored (activesync, the complete pdf manual, WMDC and so on). It would be useful to cook a rom without the extended rom reserving that space for additional storage. We will need to repartition the flash, and this is not so easy, but....

Topogigi
12th June 2009, 06:19 PM
Bad news: I tried to rebuild a rom starting from the dump and using the sprint 1.04 upgrade RUU_Signed.nbh as a template. No way for the moment. The rebuilt rom cannot be dumped anymore (and this is not the right behaviour). I'll wait for the moment (no time to go on, it's friday!). I'll work on it during the WE....

NightRaven
12th June 2009, 06:31 PM
Bad news: I tried to rebuild a rom starting from the dump and using the sprint 1.04 upgrade RUU_Signed.nbh as a template. No way for the moment. The rebuilt rom cannot be dumped anymore (and this is not the right behaviour). I'll wait for the moment (no time to go on, it's friday!). I'll work on it during the WE....

I was able to dump the sprint 1.04 RUU_Signed.nbh. Thats what I used as my base in my kitchen. I was able to dump it fine. Just not 100% sure how to setup the new kitchen.

Topogigi
12th June 2009, 06:59 PM
Had no problem to dump the Sprint rom too. It's the rebuilt rom that cannot be dumped anymore....

NightRaven
12th June 2009, 09:21 PM
Had no problem to dump the Sprint rom too. It's the rebuilt rom that cannot be dumped anymore....

What did you use to rebuild it?

Topogigi
12th June 2009, 10:30 PM
I rebuilt it with tadzio tools...

NightRaven
13th June 2009, 12:33 AM
I rebuilt it with tadzio tools...

I haven't heard of those. I'll post my kitchen!

msl7052
13th June 2009, 03:41 AM
OK. I have built a WM6.5 rom for the Sprint Treo Pro (It's all I had for an OEM dump. Alltel will come monday night when I get my new phone.). I have not tested this, becuase I have not yet received my phone. Are there any BRAVE sprint users out there that want to give it a try. You will be testing two things.

1.) Does the microSD card update described in the Treo Pro Service Manual work with unsigned roms?

2.) Does my 6.5 rom work?

Make sure you have a backup of the current sprint rom! Hopefully if it there is a problem, you can reflash the sprint rom for the 1.04 update. If you don't have it, get it off of Palms support website.

I HAVE NOT TESTED THIS PROCESS OR THE ROM YET!
I WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR A BRICKED DEVICE!
ATTEMPT WITH CAUTION!






MicroSD Card Update Instructions
Format the micro-SD card as FAT32.
Rename the file from rru_signed.nbh to pantimg.nbh
Copy the pantimg.nbh file onto micro-SD card.
Insert the micro-SD card in the Treo Pro.
Put handset into boot loader mode by pressing power and volume up button.
Press power button to activate the re-flash procedure.
Windows Mobile 6.5 Roms

Alpha 1 - WM6.5 21234 XIP and SYS - Rom doesn't work due to a bug in them kitchen. I will build another Monday night.



PM me when you have one ready to try, im in.

NightRaven
13th June 2009, 04:39 AM
I uploaded the kitchen. Again this is the first time I've used this type of kitchen. I'm pretty sure it's not setup correctly. Any suggestions and or fixes would be extremely helpfull! See first post for link.

Topogigi
13th June 2009, 09:26 AM
I haven't heard of those. I'll post my kitchen!

tadzio tools are the base of every kitchen I know: imgfsfromdump.exe, imgfstonb.exe and so on...

NightRaven
13th June 2009, 03:55 PM
tadzio tools are the base of every kitchen I know: imgfsfromdump.exe, imgfstonb.exe and so on...

Ah! Yes, I've used them a bit. I mostly use the other ones. Prepare_imgfs.exe, nbsplit.exe, viewimgfs.exe, etc.

irus
13th June 2009, 05:12 PM
I have already posted this question but i did not really get an answer so i will ask again. how can you load a custom rom with out hardspl .... or softspl?

khalaan
13th June 2009, 05:16 PM
Irus,
I would definitely wait a bit, I've heard from a trusted source that hardspl may very well be on its way in the near future. I am thinking that it would be worth the wait in this case. :)

irus
13th June 2009, 05:39 PM
Irus,
I would definitely wait a bit, I've heard from a trusted source that hardspl may very well be on its way in the near future. I am thinking that it would be worth the wait in this case. :)

thanks for the response, also i dumped the just released 1.04 sprint rom and i can't find a tool to edit the extended rom.nb file i was using TFAT Image Editor do you know where i might find a tool. thanks

Topogigi
13th June 2009, 07:38 PM
I have already posted this question but i did not really get an answer so i will ask again. how can you load a custom rom with out hardspl .... or softspl?

in the simplest way: you have to rebuild a rom signed as an official update...every device has a way to be updated. Hardspl allows unsigned roms to be loaded on devices and also prevents from bricking the devices (bad blocks writings or bad spl updates). Read the first Olipro's thread announcing hardspl and you'll understand.

info[]box1
14th June 2009, 07:23 PM
OK. I have built a WM6.5 rom for the Sprint Treo Pro (It's all I had for an OEM dump. Alltel will come monday night when I get my new phone.). I have not tested this, becuase I have not yet received my phone. Are there any BRAVE sprint users out there that want to give it a try. You will be testing two things.

1.) Does the microSD card update described in the Treo Pro Service Manual work with unsigned roms?

2.) Does my 6.5 rom work?

Make sure you have a backup of the current sprint rom! Hopefully if it there is a problem, you can reflash the sprint rom for the 1.04 update. If you don't have it, get it off of Palms support website.


I HAVE NOT TESTED THIS PROCESS OR THE ROM YET!
I WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR A BRICKED DEVICE!
ATTEMPT WITH CAUTION!


MicroSD Card Update Instructions
Format the micro-SD card as FAT32.
Rename the file from rru_signed.nbh to pantimg.nbh
Copy the pantimg.nbh file onto micro-SD card.
Insert the micro-SD card in the Treo Pro.
Put handset into boot loader mode by pressing power and volume up button.
Press power button to activate the re-flash procedure.
Windows Mobile 6.5 Roms

Alpha 1 - WM6.5 21234 XIP and SYS - Rom doesn't work due to a bug in them kitchen. I will build another Monday night.
Treo Pro Kitchen

Treo Pro Kitchen (http://www.4shared.com/file/111497418/b2dcb608/Treo_Pro_Kitchen.html) - Ervius based kitchen. This is the first time I've used this kitchen. I guessed as to how it should be setup. Fixes and suggestions would be helpfull!




NightRaven I wish you all the success on Monday night...When you succeed we all succeed...Godspeed

vladimir2989
14th June 2009, 10:01 PM
I did a dump of GSM Unlocked Treo Pro, or at least Part02.raw

basically NightRaven (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=639546) could you read through first 3 posts in the link blow and tell me is it ok, and what else u need to make GSM version of 6.5

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3943760#post3943760

bluegatar
15th June 2009, 05:15 AM
Treo Pro Kitchen rar is broken!!! please upload it again!thx

lifehappy
15th June 2009, 07:50 AM
bluegater? 靠 星星 你也在啊

bb147
15th June 2009, 08:44 AM
I have Bell Treo Pro.

Do you need an OEM dump of that? Finally some custom ROM's for the Treo Pro!

xdw5251
15th June 2009, 11:07 AM
bluegater? 靠 星星 你也在啊

关心Treo PRO的中国同胞还不少啊!哈哈!

bluegatar
15th June 2009, 12:26 PM
bluegater? 靠 星星 你也在啊

鸟人,叫你帮忙备份你丫的乱跑,太让我失望了

schwecheimer
15th June 2009, 11:09 PM
NightRaven, I hope it works out for you. I will be getting a Treo Pro (Sprint Version) soon. I am selling my HTC Touch Pro to get it. I really like WinMo 6.5. I'm currently using it on my Touch Pro. I will follow this thread to see how things go! Thanks everyone for supporting this device! We need to build a better community for it!

khalaan
16th June 2009, 03:10 PM
Heh.. NightRaven.. Post failure.

chris5h
16th June 2009, 05:12 PM
So as it stands does the kitchen and roms it makes work, or are we wating for nightraven to upload a new version?

lodown3
16th June 2009, 05:28 PM
So as it stands does the kitchen and roms it makes work, or are we wating for nightraven to upload a new version?

I think, at this point in time, its safe to say it is not fully functional (doesnt work)

acidhax
16th June 2009, 08:27 PM
Please post on how this would react with a CDMA Bell Treo Pro. Thank you.

dontknow61
17th June 2009, 04:03 PM
I was planning to upgrade my Treo 800w to a Treo Pro? Do I have a better chance of getting WM 6.5 on my 800w or on a new Treo Pro ? Thanks in advance.

NightRaven
17th June 2009, 09:00 PM
I ended up getting a Touch Pro, so I have no way of testing these roms...

gksmithlcw
17th June 2009, 09:01 PM
I ended up getting a Touch Pro, so I have no way of testing these roms...

Wha?? *sighs*

acidhax
18th June 2009, 01:18 AM
Epic waste of time

khalaan
18th June 2009, 01:40 AM
Eh,
Isn't surprising.

msl7052
18th June 2009, 05:17 AM
Eh,
Isn't surprising.

i was willing to flash and try it out, oh well, maybe some other Chef might take a crack at it

gksmithlcw
18th June 2009, 08:28 AM
If there are resources available telling me how to get started with this, I would be willing to start working on it.

NightRaven, what do you think?

jack411
19th June 2009, 06:42 AM
I sure they wont re-lock it. However the OEM in this rom is for the Sprint CDMA version. I'm pretty sure it won't function correctly on the unlocked GSM. The CDMA versions are pretty different.

As for odds of success, I have no idea. No one to my knowledge has tried the MicroSD update method, and I build the rom with a kitchen I've never used before. I just can't test until I actually get a Treo Pro on Monday.

i've tried the MicroSD method with the OEM rom and the method works.

gksmithlcw
19th June 2009, 06:55 AM
So we know that the MicroSD update method works, for sure. What do we need to do to start cooking ROMs?

khalaan
19th June 2009, 03:24 PM
Well the first step would probably be to start organising a proper kitchen. The best bets for which would probably be to ask in general forums on rom development or on IRC.

gksmithlcw
19th June 2009, 05:42 PM
I grabbed the kitchen linked at the beginning of this thread but I haven't yet looked it it. I'll take a gander when I get home later today.

to0
19th June 2009, 06:19 PM
i've tried the MicroSD method with the OEM rom and the method works.

OEM ROM as in the one that came with the update, or OEM ROM as in a dumped stock ROM?

Flashing a signed ROM with the SD card is no feat at all.

acidhax
20th June 2009, 07:28 PM
Well, I'm a developer offering his volunteer services. I just need some guidance, as this is my first experience with phone ROMs. Anyhow, if anyone needs a bit of a code monkey, bring it here.

gksmithlcw
20th June 2009, 07:59 PM
Well, I'm a developer offering his volunteer services. I just need some guidance, as this is my first experience with phone ROMs. Anyhow, if anyone needs a bit of a code monkey, bring it here.

+1

I, too, am a developer.

happycollin26
26th June 2009, 11:22 PM
So, what's going on with this item?

khalaan
26th June 2009, 11:54 PM
We sent it off to go get cosmetic surgery, it will now be creating treo pro roms that look much more like touch pro roms.

remydakid
29th June 2009, 01:46 AM
grr. we'll keep tryin.

morganlowe
1st July 2009, 04:52 PM
I just got a sprint Treo Pro, I dont like it compared to my touch pro. The sprint store is offering me a touch pro in exchange for it. I want to offer this community something else.

Trade me phones... Make an offer. I have two anyways.

Sloogle_Flugelmann
4th July 2009, 09:23 AM
wow, so basically this was just a "hey you guys! i made a ROM for the treo pro" .. "oh sorry, i just got a different phone..... sucks for you" what the fuck?

Sloogle_Flugelmann
4th July 2009, 09:37 AM
wow, so basically this was just a "hey you guys! i made a ROM for the treo pro" .. "oh sorry, i just got a different phone..... sucks for you" what the fuck?

how is this going so far?

galfert
4th July 2009, 04:33 PM
I think this is a dead cause, and there is little hope for this project.

1) There is no HardSPL
2) There is little chance for a HardSPL because comparitively speaking ...odoption for this phone is low ...hence little excitment (relatively speaking)

It is too bad because I know someone that has a Treo Pro and after he saw what I did with my Touch Pro he was salivating. I came here to have a look, so that I could help my friend with a cooked ROM...but I see that there is little hope for my friend.

I'm going to advise him to sell his Treo Pro (while he can get something for it) and get a Touch Pro instead.

Sloogle_Flugelmann
12th July 2009, 06:50 AM
ya but there is the micro sd card method.

gksmithlcw
12th July 2009, 06:52 AM
So how do we go about cooking ROMs that will work?

shahran
12th July 2009, 10:55 PM
I really hope that there is a wm 6.5 update, and I wish I could help out but I don't know anything :(

we350z
14th July 2009, 05:12 AM
so we have something to work with and developers who have time and are willing to help but no one is taking any initiative? I'm not sure what can be done other than to get the original guy a treo pro somehow if we can convince him to build the WM 6.5 ROM...

How hard can it be? I would think the process for one wM phone would be relatively similar to the next...

gksmithlcw
14th July 2009, 05:14 AM
so we have something to work with and developers who have time and are willing to help but no one is taking any initiative? I'm not sure what can be done other than to get the original guy a treo pro somehow if we can convince him to build the WM 6.5 ROM...

How hard can it be? I would think the process for one wM phone would be relatively similar to the next...

Apparently not, or we wouldn't be stuck with this dilemma... And I know NOTHING about custom ROMs, or I'd be more than happy to jump in. For now, though, I have to figure out how to code Today screen plugins... LOL

info[]box1
14th July 2009, 01:25 PM
if you know me you know i love my palm pro ...buying this phone i thought there would be an update to 6.5 w/ all the smart round here and ppcgeeks...seriously im going to buy a blackberry tour in few days...and put my palm pro in the box and wait for the day of a 6.5 update...

RyanNaz
15th July 2009, 02:49 AM
I'm totally willing to test a ROM. This will be my first ROM experience, so I'm nervous about it. I have backed up my current stock ROM using itsutils. I would also be interested in developing a 6.5 ROM, but I need to know where to start. I'm pretty fluent in C++, or at least to usually get around any obstacles. I'm a fast and eager learner, so given some time, I can really get some stuff done, I just need some encouragement and some help along the way; you know... someone that I can ask questions to when I hit a brick wall.

Also, by the way thing seem, the 6.5 ROM by NightRaven seems to be a dead project. I'm new to this whole 'cooking' thing with 'kitchens.' Anyone care to explain this a little better, or know a good source to learn from? I know Google is a great source, but you have to pick through the trash, and since I don't know anything, I don't know what I would be looking for.

Thanks!

we350z
15th July 2009, 04:30 AM
Well I would crack into it IF I had the time even tho I don't really know the first thing about ROM development either but it can't be that hard to retro a stock winmo 6.5 image from another (similar) phone to the pro using the reference sprint 1.04 image. Maybe I am mistaken. Just need to get the right tools and learn how to use them.

It sounds like the flashing method is working just there is something wrong with the ROM, as NightRaven mentioned he guessed at the settings. Maybe we can get that person to walk us through how to check them on the pro and change them on the custom ROM.

I would also think the comment about the ROM size difference is important as well. I don't see how 70MB could be shed (almost half the original size) and the ROM still usable. Maybe 6.5 trimmed a little fat but knowing M$ I find that very hard to believe...

Maybe I can get my hands on another pro somehow to either dick around with it or ship it off to someone who can?

we350z
15th July 2009, 04:39 AM
I don't think the issue is testing the ROM, someone has already tried that. If you are talking about continuing the development of the ROM that is another story.

Best thing would be to have access to another Pro in case you brick yours. However, you should be able to simply revert to the stock image and import your latest Sprite backup to get back on your feet. If you have insurance you could perhaps "lose" your phone and get a replacement.

It's been a while since I have done any C++ programming. I programmed a lot of Java in college, then C# and now webMethods/Java in my professional career. It's all the same to me anymore especially when I am hacking on someone else's code. I'm positive there are enough resources on this forum and posts to reference that would be able to get us there. We are not the first to want to build a custom ROM. I just wish I had the time to commit to it. I wanted to mess around with Android on my 800W but had the same issue - time.

The nice thing is that at least someone has already started working on the project and there is something to work off of most likely. Maybe it was all done wrong tho I don't know could be a heap of crap.

I'm totally willing to test a ROM. This will be my first ROM experience, so I'm nervous about it. I have backed up my current stock ROM using itsutils. I would also be interested in developing a 6.5 ROM, but I need to know where to start. I'm pretty fluent in C++, or at least to usually get around any obstacles. I'm a fast and eager learner, so given some time, I can really get some stuff done, I just need some encouragement and some help along the way; you know... someone that I can ask questions to when I hit a brick wall.

Also, by the way thing seem, the 6.5 ROM by NightRaven seems to be a dead project. I'm new to this whole 'cooking' thing with 'kitchens.' Anyone care to explain this a little better, or know a good source to learn from? I know Google is a great source, but you have to pick through the trash, and since I don't know anything, I don't know what I would be looking for.

Thanks!

we350z
15th July 2009, 04:41 AM
What bothers me the most is that my buddy has a crappy MDA II, which in my opinion is a bulky, less capable and less desirable phone then the Pro but because lots of people bought them and got locked into contracts there is a large following and ROMs are plentiful.

I have seen some on my friends phone and they are sexy.

navenedrob
15th July 2009, 03:15 PM
If you guys need help cooking the Pro ROM let me know. I have experience cooking with ervius kitchen and with the Treo 750. :)

polobreaka
15th July 2009, 07:59 PM
lets get the ball rolling again, id like to see some new ROMs for this phone. i will contribute some help if anyone like to teach me some basics.

i have no problem being a beta tester.

we350z
16th July 2009, 01:20 AM
do you have a pro?

If you guys need help cooking the Pro ROM let me know. I have experience cooking with ervius kitchen and with the Treo 750. :)

b_hound
16th July 2009, 01:21 AM
so... looks like everyone is willing to help (I'd do any testing needed), but nobody knows how to get started!

RyanNaz
16th July 2009, 03:03 AM
If you guys need help cooking the Pro ROM let me know. I have experience cooking with ervius kitchen and with the Treo 750. :)

I guess any help is welcomed!

so... looks like everyone is willing to help (I'd do any testing needed), but nobody knows how to get started!

I'm ready to get something going in hopes for a snappier UI.

I don't think the issue is testing the ROM, someone has already tried that. If you are talking about continuing the development of the ROM that is another story.

Best thing would be to have access to another Pro in case you brick yours. However, you should be able to simply revert to the stock image and import your latest Sprite backup to get back on your feet. If you have insurance you could perhaps "lose" your phone and get a replacement.

It's been a while since I have done any C++ programming. I programmed a lot of Java in college, then C# and now webMethods/Java in my professional career. It's all the same to me anymore especially when I am hacking on someone else's code. I'm positive there are enough resources on this forum and posts to reference that would be able to get us there. We are not the first to want to build a custom ROM. I just wish I had the time to commit to it. I wanted to mess around with Android on my 800W but had the same issue - time.

The nice thing is that at least someone has already started working on the project and there is something to work off of most likely. Maybe it was all done wrong tho I don't know could be a heap of crap.

Is there a way to truly brick my phone? I have the itsutils backup of the phone as well as a sprite backup. I'm guessing that the bootloader is hardcoded into the phone so it cannot be erased, right?

we350z
16th July 2009, 11:49 PM
Snappier UI would be great, tho the processor is only ever going to be so fast (ARM 530 Mhz) especially on the crappy underlying M$ OS code which won't be changed. I'm not sure I understand the real benefits of winmo 6.5 (eye candy?) - in fact I would think that it would be more buggy since it is less mature than winmo 6.1, so what do we really want here? Is it more efficient or something? Better/more features?

I don't think you can truly brick your phone. I would think the boot loader is at the firmware level and just hooks the ROM. So as long as a working, bootable ROM is present and being hooked then it should load.

I guess any help is welcomed!



I'm ready to get something going in hopes for a snappier UI.



Is there a way to truly brick my phone? I have the itsutils backup of the phone as well as a sprite backup. I'm guessing that the bootloader is hardcoded into the phone so it cannot be erased, right?

johnjtaylor
17th July 2009, 09:52 AM
The whole issue with needing the hard-spl is that it allows you to upload and flash a home-cooked ROM that has not been signed with a HTC-authorised certificate. No certificate=no flash, so even if the bootloader is hard-coded (which I don't think it is, since it can be upgraded) we can't do anything without one of the XDA-Jedi helping us out by working their magic to produce a hard-spl. The Treo Pro just doesn't have the weight of numbers to get their attention I'm afraid, so unless someone at Palm or HTC leaks us the info, we're stuck.
Shame, but not the end of the world - the TP is by far and away the most stable smartphone I've ever used.

John

to0
17th July 2009, 05:44 PM
The whole issue with needing the hard-spl is that it allows you to upload and flash a home-cooked ROM that has not been signed with a HTC-authorised certificate. No certificate=no flash, so even if the bootloader is hard-coded (which I don't think it is, since it can be upgraded) we can't do anything without one of the XDA-Jedi helping us out by working their magic to produce a hard-spl. The Treo Pro just doesn't have the weight of numbers to get their attention I'm afraid, so unless someone at Palm or HTC leaks us the info, we're stuck.
Shame, but not the end of the world - the TP is by far and away the most stable smartphone I've ever used.

John

The other option is superCIDing the device with its stock bootloader. Hell knows how to do that, though.

we350z
18th July 2009, 12:34 AM
I see the predicament now - booting an unsigned ROM. These checks are built into the firmware / bootloader? I would think not since certificates expire. Where does the certificate exist? Can it just be replaces with a self-signed certificate or something or otherwise spoofed or altogether disabled? Is this a problem on all HTC phones? We just don't have enough critical mass to have someone inclined to do these things for us?

I guess I don't get it. Can't we just perform a similar procedure that has been done on other HTC phones? Why is hard-spl capability so important?

PedroDaGr8
18th July 2009, 05:14 AM
Snappier UI would be great, tho the processor is only ever going to be so fast (ARM 530 Mhz) especially on the crappy underlying M$ OS code which won't be changed. I'm not sure I understand the real benefits of winmo 6.5 (eye candy?) - in fact I would think that it would be more buggy since it is less mature than winmo 6.1, so what do we really want here? Is it more efficient or something? Better/more features?

I don't think you can truly brick your phone. I would think the boot loader is at the firmware level and just hooks the ROM. So as long as a working, bootable ROM is present and being hooked then it should load.

The 530Mhz arm in your phone is actually pretty good. As for 6.5 it is revisionary in nature, but it has a LOT of good features with respect to trying to move away from requiring a stylus. I like the new home screen in 6.5 that replaces the today screen. The start menu is different. Kinetic touch scrolling (so you don't have to use that damn scroll bar) etc. These all are why I run 6.5 on my Touch.

I will say though that the version of 6.1 you have on your phone is one of the best out there. My wife got one recently and I have been impressed.

we350z
24th July 2009, 10:49 AM
Nightraven is saying we must have hardspl to get anywhere. He mentioned cmonex wrote it from the touch pro and we should try to get her help.

we350z
24th July 2009, 10:51 AM
It does seem very stable, especially coming from the 800w which was 6.1 and buggy as a mofo. I don't get random shit happening like my today screen disappearing and never coming back, losing hard/soft buttons, status icon weirdness, unrecoverable outlook (push mail synchronization errors) corruption, etc...

The 530Mhz arm in your phone is actually pretty good. As for 6.5 it is revisionary in nature, but it has a LOT of good features with respect to trying to move away from requiring a stylus. I like the new home screen in 6.5 that replaces the today screen. The start menu is different. Kinetic touch scrolling (so you don't have to use that damn scroll bar) etc. These all are why I run 6.5 on my Touch.

I will say though that the version of 6.1 you have on your phone is one of the best out there. My wife got one recently and I have been impressed.

PedroDaGr8
24th July 2009, 06:17 PM
You all REALLLY need to try to get someone like Cokeman or CMonex to write you an Unlocker or HardSPL.

Sloogle_Flugelmann
2nd August 2009, 10:31 AM
"Rom doesn't work due to a bug in them kitchen. I will build another Monday night."

has it been Monday night yet? :rolleyes:

shufflez
6th August 2009, 11:38 AM
Can i be of some help to one of you "Kings of Mods" by supplying my firmware from my original (got it directly from Palm), no-operator, no-simlock (i guess, haven't tried any other operators) Palm Treo Pro?

Reading in to firmware-dumping right now, does a dump also dump all settings and apps? If so i'm gonna wait until i get my new HTC, as the Palm is my primary-phone (and i'm not going back to S730's and stuff :)).

Let me know! If you want me to try stuff, just PM me!

osirisHTC
7th August 2009, 03:45 AM
Treo Pro + WinMo 6.5 = Great !
Hope a good cooked ROM makes it [:)]

DWC316
12th August 2009, 10:43 PM
my friend has a palm 800w from sprint, will this rom work on it?

jsimonkeller
23rd August 2009, 07:56 PM
so here is my question as this project has been stalled out for a while. I have a treo 800w and a treo 750. I have loaded wm 6.5 on the treo 750.

I understand that a GSM and CDMA rom are apples and oranges, but is the windows mobile aspect any different? Similar keyboard and screen size.

Would it be helpful to compare the OS portion of the WM 6.5 750 rom with the current non-working treo pro WM 6.5 rom?

to0
25th August 2009, 06:54 PM
so here is my question as this project has been stalled out for a while. I have a treo 800w and a treo 750. I have loaded wm 6.5 on the treo 750.

I understand that a GSM and CDMA rom are apples and oranges, but is the windows mobile aspect any different? Similar keyboard and screen size.

Would it be helpful to compare the OS portion of the WM 6.5 750 rom with the current non-working treo pro WM 6.5 rom?

What are you talking about?

Treo 750v is an HTC phone, Treo 850 (Pro) is an HTC phone, Treo 800w is NOT an HTC phone. No Treo Pro or 750 ROM will ever work on an 800w, no matter how similar their screen and keyboard sizes are.

The 800w is not an HTC phone.

Edit:
Also, why do people keep posting in this thread? It was never going anywhere and it's not going to go anywhere. Once HardSPL is out, people who own the device can make their own WM6.5 threads.

navenedrob
29th August 2009, 10:58 PM
I can probably build a ROM for this phone. I'll see what I can do.

vladimir2989
29th August 2009, 11:15 PM
I can probably build a ROM for this phone. I'll see what I can do.

GSM i hope ?

and what about HardSPL etc ?

to0
31st August 2009, 09:35 PM
Anyone can build a ROM for this phone very easily but will not be possible to flash it.

Unless, of course, the rumor of a certain GSM SPL (SPL-0.59.2000) doing no CID checks is true. If this is true, then GSM users shouldn't have any issues with custom ROMs without a HardSPL. A hardSPL does, however, offer many other benefits. Details on that SPL: http://www.ppcgeeks.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1111891&postcount=19.

vladimir2989
31st August 2009, 09:50 PM
how do i see what SPL version do i have, if i have the SPL-0.59.2000 and some one can cook me a rom i can try it, and if it all work and some one can tell me how to rip the SPL off i can upload it...

honking
1st September 2009, 05:09 AM
I am the guy who posts the reply

http://www.ppcgeeks.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1111891&postcount=19

honking
1st September 2009, 05:10 AM
I can probably build a ROM for this phone. I'll see what I can do.

I have the SPL-0.59.2000.
I don't know how to get the spl with 0.59.2000.
Can I have a try with your rom?

honking
1st September 2009, 05:16 AM
how do i see what SPL version do i have, if i have the SPL-0.59.2000 and some one can cook me a rom i can try it, and if it all work and some one can tell me how to rip the SPL off i can upload it...

You can enter bootloader mode to get the spl information.

1. Remove the battery cover
2. Hold down the camera button at the left side
3. Hold down the power button at the top
4. Soft-reset with the stylus

you can get detail from here: http://www.treoprotricks.com/post/2008/11/03/Entering-bootloader-on-the-Palm-Treo-Pro.aspx

vladimir2989
1st September 2009, 11:50 AM
i got
PANT100
SPL-0.59.0000 :(
CPLD-2

well if someone manege to flash WM6.5 on 0.59.2000 and knows how to flash 0.59.2000 SPL it on to other Treo Pros it b gr8

to0
1st September 2009, 04:53 PM
Unfortunately, getting that SPL is going to be more difficult than just having someone rip it off because you won't be able to flash it unless your SPL allows unsigned code to be flashed. If it's part of an official upgrade somewhere, though, then you'll be able to flash it without any problems.

vladimir2989
1st September 2009, 05:32 PM
So....

is anyone gona try to do someting ? like honking (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=376902) culd try to flash a custom rom and see if it work, or if he know how to maybe try to make it in to Pant100img.nbh file or someting...

and how are thingds going with cmonex, any progress ?

we kinda have lots of talk but nothing happening and Micr$oft has announced that the first batch of Windows Mobile 6.5 (http://www.engadgetmobile.com/tag/WindowsMobile6.5/) handsets will launch on October 6th so officel update may not b faraway...

to0
1st September 2009, 09:24 PM
I'm guessing honking has already successfully flashed a custom ROM or else s/he wouldn't be reporting that it is possible.

cwiekol
1st September 2009, 09:26 PM
Hi,

as far as I know I have unofficial release of gsm treo pro. Me device is sign as:
"DVT unit not for resale. Treo XXX"
I have spl sign as below:

PANT100 MFG
SPL-0.56.1000
CPLD-2


Maybe for someone it would be helpful to have it (maybe older soft would be easier to hack), i can download it with a little help.

And I'm waiting for new ROM!!

honking
2nd September 2009, 04:05 AM
I'm guessing honking have already successfully flashed a custom ROM or else s/he wouldn't be reporting that it is possible.

Yes ,you are right, I have already successfully flashed a custom Rom.

The thread from china shows how to flash rom to treo pro, and provides a custom rom.

Of course,it is suitable for tp with spl 0.59.2000

Here is the thread http://www.treo8.com/bbs/thread-125563-1-1.html

honking
2nd September 2009, 04:52 AM
Hi,

as far as I know I have unofficial release of gsm treo pro. Me device is sign as:
"DVT unit not for resale. Treo XXX"
I have spl sign as below:

PANT100 MFG
SPL-0.56.1000
CPLD-2


Maybe for someone it would be helpful to have it (maybe older soft would be easier to hack), i can download it with a little help.

And I'm waiting for new ROM!!

I'm waiting for WM 6.5

flash67
2nd September 2009, 06:22 AM
Mine says

PANT200
SPL-0.39.0000
CPLD-2


I'm with Telus in Canada... Does this make any difference?

gabriel612
4th September 2009, 09:25 PM
I'm waiting too for WM6.5 on my Treo Pro unlocked, or UI for it.
Thanks.

drnoir
4th September 2009, 11:31 PM
Yes ,you are right, I have already successfully flashed a custom Rom.

The thread from china shows how to flash rom to treo pro, and provides a custom rom.

Of course,it is suitable for tp with spl 0.59.2000

Here is the thread http://www.treo8.com/bbs/thread-125563-1-1.html

Well, I got the file from the forum, but it's password protected. Do you have it? I already asked the author for it, but I don't know if he reads english, plus I don't want to wait till he checks his PMs ;)

Thanks in advance, I'll let you know how it goes for me.

honking
5th September 2009, 06:40 AM
Well, I got the file from the forum, but it's password protected. Do you have it? I already asked the author for it, but I don't know if he reads english, plus I don't want to wait till he checks his PMs ;)

Thanks in advance, I'll let you know how it goes for me.

you can try password with 'treo' or 'treo8'

acidhax
5th September 2009, 08:21 PM
How about a guide for people who speak english? :(

vladimir2989
6th September 2009, 02:34 PM
maybe someone will manage to get hard SPL ready in time for
Windows Mobile 7 ( sometime in 2010) lol

drnoir
7th September 2009, 05:38 PM
How about a guide for people who speak english? :(

Google translate did a poor job of translating, but here's the gist of it. Download the file (it requires you to install a downloader, since it's large). Notice the DL service has an "English" link on the top right corner. I'll try and mirror the files when I get the password)

Unrar (Sorry, but the password is neither treo8 nor treo). Got the password from the author: for the Chinese version it's "treo8pro", and for the English file it's just "treo8".

Place the Pantimg.nbh file on the root directory of a FAT32 formated microSD card. Reset your PPC to the bootloader by keeping the camera and power buttons down while pressing the reset button.

The PPC should do the rest.

As always, there is a risk of bricking the device, so try this at your own risk.

Cheers.

estuardo4
7th September 2009, 06:55 PM
drnoir,

Please let us know your findings, but more importantly, Are you able to connect to Iusacell's network?

Thank you for your help. I already have the file on hand. Also, What would be the password?

It seems to be a GSM Treo Pro ROM. Do you also have a GSM Treo Pro?

gb

drnoir
7th September 2009, 08:06 PM
drnoir,

Please let us know your findings, but more importantly, Are you able to connect to Iusacell's network?

Thank you for your help. I already have the file on hand. Also, What would be the password?

It seems to be a GSM Treo Pro ROM. Do you also have a GSM Treo Pro?

gb

First of all, got the password from the author: for the Chinese version it's "treo8pro", and for the English file it's just "treo8".

Neither versions worked for me, alas. Of course, I missed the references to it being a GSM ROM (where were they?), and I was unable to flash to my CDMA device. It just gets stuck on the bootloader "Loading... stage, like all my other ROMs... *sigh* I was excited for this...

Anyone else try this on a GSM phone?

PS: I've already asked the author for permission to mirror the files. if he/she says yes, I'll post the new location here.

estuardo4
7th September 2009, 08:39 PM
I used Google Translate and found out it was a GSM ROM. It is right on the first post.

Thank you again for your willingness to help us. It seems that it is just a matter of days before we get our Treos capable of custom ROMs.

gb

vladimir2989
7th September 2009, 08:58 PM
i got Unlocked GSM Treo Pro and i want to try that rom, can someone upload it to some english file host or someting....

oh and whare can i get the officeal current rom ? just in case it all goes to hell

drnoir
8th September 2009, 12:57 AM
i got Unlocked GSM Treo Pro and i want to try that rom, can someone upload it to some english file host or someting....

oh and whare can i get the officeal current rom ? just in case it all goes to hell

OK, I just got permission from the author to mirror this file. Or at least I think I do, because his English isn't too great and I have no Chinese to speak of.

Anyways, here is a link to the ENGLISH GSM ROM he posted: http://www.medinasalazar.net/DLs/PANTIMG.zip
No password for this copy. All credits, prayers and imprecations go to him, not me.

I have no idea where to get the stock GSM ROM for the TP, though. I have a copy of the CDMA update from Sprint, which is what I have on my phone right now.

vladimir2989
8th September 2009, 02:09 AM
ok cool, i will give it a try, but i will first try to get a rom from palm support website see how that goes...

btw what build is that ? any ideas ???

gabriel612
8th September 2009, 04:03 PM
Hi all,
I have Treo Pro GSM unlocked 1065EU.
I will try this version, but I want to know first if this is a WM6.5 rom, or another version of 6.1?
After yours reply I will try this rom from my microSD card.
Thanks in advance.

drnoir
8th September 2009, 04:28 PM
Hi all,
I have Treo Pro GSM unlocked 1065EU.
I will try this version, but I want to know first if this is a WM6.5 rom, or another version of 6.1?
After yours reply I will try this rom from my microSD card.
Thanks in advance.

It's 6.1, I believe.

gabriel612
8th September 2009, 08:51 PM
It's 6.1, I believe.

Thanks for reply.
My opinion is that it will be a nonsense to update 6.1 to another 6.1.
The original Treo Pro rom is very good.
If Plam don't release an upgrade this year from 6.1 to 6.5, we wait a good new rom from the guys of this (or another) forum.
If you know something please put here.:)

NightRaven
20th September 2009, 06:01 PM
Now that a HardSPL is available for the Treo Pro, I will be once again working on a 6.5 rom. I hope to have it ready in the next few days.

stageworks
20th September 2009, 06:47 PM
Now that a HardSPL is available for the Treo Pro, I will be once again working on a 6.5 rom. I hope to have it ready in the next few days.

Thanks so much.

gksmithlcw
20th September 2009, 07:25 PM
Now that a HardSPL is available for the Treo Pro, I will be once again working on a 6.5 rom. I hope to have it ready in the next few days.

AWESOME! I can't wait to see what you come up with.

Once you get everything tweaked out, kitchen-wise, you'll have to write up a how-to so I can try and figure out how to do it.

to0
20th September 2009, 08:30 PM
Now that a HardSPL is available for the Treo Pro, I will be once again working on a 6.5 rom. I hope to have it ready in the next few days.

Don't forget the ringer fix. I haven't taken the CAB apart yet to see whats actually going on, but it won't install on a custom ROM. It's probably just checking a registry value before failing, but until I get near a computer I won't be able to tell when my phone rings.

flash67
21st September 2009, 01:44 AM
Now that a HardSPL is available for the Treo Pro, I will be once again working on a 6.5 rom. I hope to have it ready in the next few days.



Cant wait... Already flashed my phone.. theres a few glitches that I know can easily be tweaked in some upcoming roms... I cant wait.

NightRaven
21st September 2009, 04:53 AM
I have the kitchen successfully working with the original 6.1 rom. Now, to port 6.5.

21234 and 21857 both have the spinning wait cursor on chome. Not sure why yet. Still working on it.

Still cant get the wait cursor to go away. I'm going to post my kitchen anyway. That way maybe someone else will stumble upon a solution.

acidhax
22nd September 2009, 03:05 AM
Great, Thanks for being part of the COMMUNITY :).

Hopefully I can hop on as a beginner chef.. As a lot of us haven't had experience with ROM's yet Any guidance -- is great, my biggest worry is that I have no idea how different GSM/CDMA roms are...

I'm a software engineer, so I can understand how it works, just unsure of the steps.. Just as long as I can find time throughout school, I hope to help out as much as I can..

flash67
22nd September 2009, 04:25 AM
OK. So after a bunch of messing (f***ing) around, I finally have the kitchen working again. Protected roms are really beginning to p**s me off. This is community after all, right? Anyway, I have the kitchen successfully working with the original 6.1 rom. Now, to port 6.5.

OK. 21234 ported perfectly, but it's really old. So, I'm gonna update to 21857, and then I'll post the kitchen.

Hotfile really sucks! I really dont want to pay for a premium account. Six minutes left before I can download half of 21857. Then I have to wait another 15 minutes.

21234 and 21857 both have the spinning wait cursor on chome. Not sure why yet. Still working on it.

Still cant get the wait cursor to go away. I'm going to post my kitchen anyway. That way maybe someone else will stumble upon a solution.


If you need help with hosting, you can put it on my server.

honking
22nd September 2009, 12:14 PM
OK. So after a bunch of messing (f***ing) around, I finally have the kitchen working again. Protected roms are really beginning to p**s me off. This is community after all, right? Anyway, I have the kitchen successfully working with the original 6.1 rom. Now, to port 6.5.

OK. 21234 ported perfectly, but it's really old. So, I'm gonna update to 21857, and then I'll post the kitchen.

Hotfile really sucks! I really dont want to pay for a premium account. Six minutes left before I can download half of 21857. Then I have to wait another 15 minutes.

21234 and 21857 both have the spinning wait cursor on chome. Not sure why yet. Still working on it.

Still cant get the wait cursor to go away. I'm going to post my kitchen anyway. That way maybe someone else will stumble upon a solution.

Can you build a wm6.5 rom for gsm tp?
Someone has builded a wm6.1 rom for gsm tp. If you need a wm6.1 gsm rom for building wm6.5 gms rom , I can send the wm6.1 rom to you

NightRaven
22nd September 2009, 05:00 PM
Can you build a wm6.5 rom for gsm tp?
Someone has builded a wm6.1 rom for gsm tp. If you need a wm6.1 gsm rom for building wm6.5 gms rom , I can send the wm6.1 rom to you

This one is CDMA only. I dont have access to the stripped down GSM version.

NightRaven
22nd September 2009, 05:02 PM
The link to the new kitchen is in the first post...

gabriel612
22nd September 2009, 07:36 PM
The link to the new kitchen is in the first post...

Thanks for your work.
Can you made a 6.5 rom for a GSM Treo Pro ?
Here are many guys from Europe, like me, with GSM Treo Pro.
I know that is very difficult to create a new rom...however, I will thank you in advance for your great job.:)

NightRaven
22nd September 2009, 08:33 PM
Thanks for your work.
Can you made a 6.5 rom for a GSM Treo Pro ?
Here are many guys from Europe, like me, with GSM Treo Pro.
I know that is very difficult to create a new rom...however, I will thank you in advance for your great job.:)

I dont have access to a GSM version to dump the existing rom, or test a new one. Without a device to test with, I wouldn't even know if it would boot.

to0
22nd September 2009, 10:20 PM
You rock. Very stable ROM, I like it.

I've never used this kitchen before, so I've got a lot of reading to do. Do you happen to have a quick answer for removing HTC_CM_GUARDIAN.exe from \Windows and its shortcut from \Windows\Startup? Also, is there an equivalent of initflashfiles.txt in OEMs in BuildOS? I can't figure out how to get files into different directories.

Thanks!

NightRaven
22nd September 2009, 10:48 PM
You rock. Very stable ROM, I like it.

I've never used this kitchen before, so I've got a lot of reading to do. Do you happen to have a quick answer for removing HTC_CM_GUARDIAN.exe from \Windows and its shortcut from \Windows\Startup? Also, is there an equivalent of initflashfiles.txt in OEMs in BuildOS? I can't figure out how to get files into different directories.

Thanks!

There is an initflashfiles.dat located in the OEM\PANT200\0409\OEM_Lang_0409. As for htc_cm_guardian, you can remove it from the rom, by remove the files, and any entries from the rgu's under the OEM folder. I suggest you convert it into an EXT package incase you ever decide to add it to the rom again.

As for the HTC_CM_GUARDIAN.EXE, I'm don't see that file anywhere in the kitchen. I'm not sure where you got it from?

Did you get the never ending wait cursor on the home screen? I still can't figure out how to get it to go away.

flash67
22nd September 2009, 11:35 PM
This?

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1183299&postcount=106

NightRaven
22nd September 2009, 11:49 PM
This?

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1183299&postcount=106

This doesn't work consistantly.

to0
23rd September 2009, 04:04 AM
There is an initflashfiles.dat located in the OEM\PANT200\0409\OEM_Lang_0409. As for htc_cm_guardian, you can remove it from the rom, by remove the files, and any entries from the rgu's under the OEM folder. I suggest you convert it into an EXT package incase you ever decide to add it to the rom again.

As for the HTC_CM_GUARDIAN.EXE, I'm don't see that file anywhere in the kitchen. I'm not sure where you got it from?

Did you get the never ending wait cursor on the home screen? I still can't figure out how to get it to go away.

HTC_CM_GUARDIAN.exe is a program that shows up on HTC phones to keep the carrier's MMS and WAP settings in place. It makes it impossible to use WAP or MMS on a carrier other than Sprint until the file is deleted. I didn't see it in the kitchen either, but it's definitely in there after I install the ROM. I wonder if the Palm autorun has anything to do with it.

I get the neverending wait cursor on the homescreen. I just live with it haha...

dontknow61
24th September 2009, 12:23 AM
Does this not work in a x64 bit OS? The ROM flasher utility stays at 0% then errors out.

kevinjosephmorin
24th September 2009, 05:22 AM
Does this not work in a x64 bit OS? The ROM flasher utility stays at 0% then errors out.
dontknow61,

I am running Windows 7 Pro x86 and have the same symptom of 0% and then timeout. What OS are you using?

drnoir
24th September 2009, 07:27 PM
dontknow61,

I am running Windows 7 Pro x86 and have the same symptom of 0% and then timeout. What OS are you using?

I had that too, but reading the thread solves it ;) you need to unplug and replug the usb cable after it goes into bootloader (SPL) mode... something to do with AS vs ROM upgrade or what not. But it worked for me... I've flashed my phone over 10 times in the past week using Windows 7...

Hope it helped

revo2wheels
24th September 2009, 07:34 PM
FYI - if you want wm6.1 to recognise your mp3 et al for ring and text tones you will need to delete the following reg keys.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds

AllSounds
Ringtones

kevinjosephmorin
24th September 2009, 09:43 PM
I had that too, but reading the thread solves it ;) you need to unplug and replug the usb cable after it goes into bootloader (SPL) mode... something to do with AS vs ROM upgrade or what not. But it worked for me... I've flashed my phone over 10 times in the past week using Windows 7...

Hope it helped
drnoir,

Thanks for the advice. Unplugging/replugging still doesn't get me past 0%. Perhaps I am missing a step. I am letting the device go in to the multiple colored SPL page, then unplugging, then plugging. After about 15 seconds the page changes to a 0% page. After about 5 minutes the program on the computer times out and says something about communication failing and a recovery should be done.

flash67
25th September 2009, 04:12 AM
Do a manual boot to the SPL loader... by holding the power button at the top, and the camera button on the side and pushing the reset button under the back cover..... It'll boot to a SPL loader hopefully saying Cmonex and then run the RUU.exe (rom update utility)... and see if it'll flash it.

MX51
25th September 2009, 04:42 PM
Hey night, how do you make registry edits on this kitchen? I am trying to build a rom but this is my first time and just want to make sure I got it all right. Thanks

NightRaven
25th September 2009, 05:22 PM
Hey night, how do you make registry edits on this kitchen? I am trying to build a rom but this is my first time and just want to make sure I got it all right. Thanks

You can do it a number of ways. Create a provxml file (search MSDN for examples), modifiy the entry in one of the .rgu files, or an ext package witht he change in the app.reg file (see one of the existing ext packages for an example).

kevinjosephmorin
25th September 2009, 06:15 PM
Do a manual boot to the SPL loader... by holding the power button at the top, and the camera button on the side and pushing the reset button under the back cover..... It'll boot to a SPL loader hopefully saying Cmonex and then run the RUU.exe (rom update utility)... and see if it'll flash it.
When using the camera, the power button, and reset, I get the SPL page, but it doesn't say Cmonex. My SPL page reads:
PANT200
SPL-0.36.0000
CPLD-2
Serial <-This changes to USB as soon as I plug in to my computer

I get 0% and then timeout with the camera/power/reset path.

Any other suggestions?

NightRaven
25th September 2009, 08:17 PM
When using the camera, the power button, and reset, I get the SPL page, but it doesn't say Cmonex. My SPL page reads:
PANT200
SPL-0.36.0000
CPLD-2
Serial <-This changes to USB as soon as I plug in to my computer

I get 0% and then timeout with the camera/power/reset path.

Any other suggestions?

That means you didn't flash the hard spl. You need to do this first before you can flash a custom rom.

MedicWill
25th September 2009, 09:17 PM
From you guys running Windows 7, download the Windows Virtual Machine from microsoft. Once you have the virtual XP running, do all your installs through it and you should be fine.

Worked great for me.

kevinjosephmorin
25th September 2009, 11:49 PM
That means you didn't flash the hard spl. You need to do this first before you can flash a custom rom.
Nightraven,

Sorry to be a pain. Where do I get the download to flash the hardspl?

drnoir
26th September 2009, 12:50 AM
Nightraven,

Sorry to be a pain. Where do I get the download to flash the hardspl?

Here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=84822

Keep in mind they're only for CDMA TreoPros, though...

we350z
28th September 2009, 06:25 AM
Well I am very glad to see the activity for this project continue since HardSPL was released for the Treo Pro. I am not up to snuff on how to actually flash WinMo 6.5 to the device. Has this been done succesfully for CDMA version yet or is it still a WIP? Anyway I apologize if this information is already available somewhere else, otherwise we should build a little FAQ.

gabriel612
28th September 2009, 07:15 PM
CDMA Treo Pro Kitchen WM6.5 build 21857

CDMA Treo Pro Kitchen (http://www.4shared.com/file/134563610/69f011ad/Panther_Rom_Kitchen.html) - For information about Ervius Visual Kitchen, and the lastest 6.5 builds and fixes, go here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544445).


I will try this evening this CDMA rom to my GSM TP.
I want to see what happened...I will post here my results.

honking
29th September 2009, 04:27 AM
I will try this evening this CDMA rom to my GSM TP.
I want to see what happened...I will post here my results.

So, what happened?

drnoir
30th September 2009, 06:52 PM
Well I am very glad to see the activity for this project continue since HardSPL was released for the Treo Pro. I am not up to snuff on how to actually flash WinMo 6.5 to the device. Has this been done succesfully for CDMA version yet or is it still a WIP? Anyway I apologize if this information is already available somewhere else, otherwise we should build a little FAQ.

Oh, it's a fact, all right. I've flashed mine several times already.

CFay's ROMs are pretty straightforward, but the visual kitchen NightRaven uses have me headaches before I figured it out.

gabriel612
30th September 2009, 06:54 PM
So, what happened?

Nothing.
The phone is not recognized.
It will be must to wait a custom GSM rom, official or not.
If someone know something, please put here.

kevinjosephmorin
30th September 2009, 09:15 PM
That means you didn't flash the hard spl. You need to do this first before you can flash a custom rom.
Nightraven,

As you suggested, once I got the hardspl installed using the link that drnoir linked to, I was able to install via the Kitchen you posted.

The gesture navigation and IE Mobile are very nice. Thanks for your hard work.

I have seen a couple issues. I think you have probably seen all of these yourself, but just in case here is the list:
1) The wait cursor is present on the Today screen and the Startmenu (I saw that you ran in to this too in an earlier post)
2) The power meter doesn't seem to update. When the battery is low, I get a notification that it is running out but the battery meter near the clock reads 99%
3) Holding the power button on the top of the phone doesn't turn the radio off like it used to
4) With your base ROM (NightRaven 1.1 - 21857.erv), hitting the end button doesn't turn the keyguard on. I included the keyguard in the kitchen and this solved the problem but the keyguard was very slow to respond (unlike when it was running 6.1.4)
5) The mail hard-button doesn't map to anything after flashing
6) The camera has a wait cursor in the middle of it

You have done a nice job. Thanks again.

kevinjosephmorin
30th September 2009, 09:17 PM
That means you didn't flash the hard spl. You need to do this first before you can flash a custom rom.
Nightraven,

As you suggested, once I got the hardspl installed using the link that drnoir linked to, I was able to install via the Kitchen you posted.

The gesture navigation and IE Mobile are very nice. Thanks for your hard work.

I have seen a couple issues. I think you have probably seen all of these yourself, but just in case here is the list:
1) The wait cursor is present on the Today screen and the Startmenu (I saw that you ran in to this too in an earlier post)
2) The power meter doesn't seem to update. When the battery is low, I get a notification that it is running out but the battery meter near the clock reads 99%
3) Holding the power button on the top of the phone doesn't turn the radio off like it used to
4) With your base ROM (NightRaven 1.1 - 21857.erv), hitting the end button doesn't turn the keyguard on. I included the keyguard in the kitchen and this solved the problem but the keyguard was very slow to respond (unlike when it was running 6.1.4)
5) The mail hard-button doesn't map to anything after flashing
6) The camera has a wait cursor in the middle of it

You have done a nice job. Thanks again.

knightlord
1st October 2009, 12:51 AM
so has anyone tried this on a unlocked phone yet?

to0
5th October 2009, 08:12 PM
I can't get the Palm AutoRun thing to stop running, has anyone else had any success? I can't even find the configuration file that it's using. I removed CheckAutoRun.lnk and ConfigDevice.lnk from \Windows\Startup, but that didn't do anything. I'm going to try to disable "ExtROMCopy.exe" from Init, just in case it's copying some files from ExtROM and executing an autorunner or something.

edit: That did it. Turn off ExtROMCopy.exe to disable Palm's AutoRun.

New problem: All of my internet programs work fine except for IE. Anyone ever see anything like that? It starts out "Loading" and then goes to "Opening..." pages, and then just stays there. No issues with any other applications.

edit2: The issue is with the proxy. Programs where the proxy is set manually work fine, but programs that rely on the connection settings to determine the proxy aren't determining it correctly. If I install ProxyCap and cut the proxy out of the picture, everything works fine. Guess I need to step through my connection provxml again.

dontknow61
6th October 2009, 04:41 AM
Night Raven any plans to update to 6.5.1 on your rom? Plus i don't see all the windows mobile settings I saw in wm 6.1. Like i cant turn off the dumb key-guard.

CrozB
6th October 2009, 07:15 AM
Night Raven any plans to update to 6.5.1 on your rom?

+1 on that request :)

-D

likearaptor
8th October 2009, 07:36 PM
I would be interested in finding a way to turn off the cursor spinning on the home screen. But hiding the cursor is not a solution, there has to be a way to get it so it only appears when the system is waiting on an application to finish running something. I currently am using an edited shellres128.dll to not display the cursor, that way I don't have to install a program to hide the cursor.

Robin24k
8th October 2009, 09:10 PM
I don't seem to have that problem...do you have any today plugins? An incompatible one could be causing it.

likearaptor
8th October 2009, 09:31 PM
It looks like it just happened after the first reboot. I rebooted my phone and it seems to be fine now. Thanks

thom@s
9th October 2009, 12:24 PM
Any chance to see a GSM version of WinMo 6.5 rom ?

alin2em15
11th October 2009, 12:43 AM
so im new to this post.
i have a sprint palm treo pro that i just got
i just downloaded the kitchen 6.5 from the first post on this thread.
im not sure about how to install it and before i do will it work without crashing on me?

Also is there any way anyone could help me with getting the original wm 6.1 rom and how to install it incase this one doesnt work.
Thank you
-Alin

darylrue
12th October 2009, 11:51 PM
I am attempting this upgrade.

I beleive that I have successfully flashed the hard spl by

Step 1: copying the file to flash card and running the executable here. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=84822. No errors and the number at the top of the multicolored screen went lower (I think from 37 to 34) so I know that it did something.

Step 2: Seems to be to copy the image file to the rom card and boot into it, but I cannot find any nbh file in the panther rom kitchen zipped download.

Can someone help me out here? Is that my last step, if so, this seems pretty simple but I need the file. I am not sure why the whole kitchen is posted here but to tell you the truth I do not really know what a kitchen is and I still feel pretty silly calling it a kitchen when it looks to be a flash build environment or something. :)

I would be happy to be referenced to another source to read. The other source seemed to be for those who want to develop their own roms or port roms which is probably too much for me at this point.

darylrue
13th October 2009, 12:38 AM
STEP 2 seems to be actually, load rom builder utility a.k.a kitchen, load config file for latest release and press create.

builds image file a.k.a nbh.

Step 3 place nbh with correct name on flash drive and boot to flash mode by pressing left side button and top left button pressed.

step 4 get on your knees because this took a while and I thought I was bricked.

step 5 be happy you tried it cause now you have the new interface! sweet, thanks!

dontknow61
19th October 2009, 10:24 PM
I like that this Rom is sprint centric, however its missing some options like turning off the Keyguard lock. Is there another Treo Pro Rom for 6.5 that has everything like this? Or are there some tweeks I dont know about. Thanks NightRaven for the awsome build.

NightRaven
1st November 2009, 07:55 PM
How to remove the infinite wait cursor from the today screen.


Covert the shellres.128.dll from a module to a file using recmod.exe.
Open the resulting shellres.128.dll file using a resource editor.
Delete all of the images for the wait cursor.
Save the changes to shellres.128.dll.
Covert the shellres.128.dll file back into a module using reversemode.exe.
Cook and flash a new rom with the changes.
This will remove the wait cursor all together, so you will no longer see it anywhere!

xmail
3rd November 2009, 08:56 AM
Ciao
this rom can run on Europen h3g and GSM Treo Pro?

thanks

Giorgio :confused: