night-mayor
30th June 2009, 05:22 PM
I got to read all 1000+ posts on ways to un-brick wizard devices which are mainly intended for G4 users . And the claims that G3 never bricks. However I couldnt see an effective mean to un-brick it , there was an attempt that made it to sticky that should be realy removed as it failed and no one is interested in carrying on with it (a sad story realy , you have to read 200+ posts to get there).
Now the question is , what is a brick ?
a brick is a device that wont power up through any mean nutral or based on a back door (ex: Camera+Power , Send+Power , End+Power, Com+Speed Dial+Power.. etc) so to note , if your device can wake up at any of these methodes , it is not a brick. It would rather be fixed easily.
How would a device reach such state ?
Hardware fault , the device got physicaly damaged.
Software fault , the device lost its IMEI (the device serial number , would survive if corrupted only if IMEI figure is of same number of digits).
How would a device lose its IMEI ?
IMEI of wizard device is written within same memory that holds the SPL/IPL (device bios in pc language), which could easily be lost in case of flashing a G3 SPL/IPL on a G4 board since the memory address of the G4 IMEI is different to that of G3 and would be over-written by G3 SPL/IPL.
Would this happen to G3 devices too ?
It is rare since no G4 (SPL/IPL) roms are released except from carriers and they are very cautious at reviewing device ids (another name for IMEI ;) when it comes to G4 cause G4 was specificaly designed to be a locked phone.
Then would a G3 be bricked ?
Yes , current alteration/failier during the writing phase of the SPL/IPL would lead to corruption of such memory. also faulty batteries can get the device there on the long run.
Can the devices be fixed ?
Ever heard of cloneing ? If you can clone 2 device memories then you can get it to un-brick as simple as that , only both devices are going to have the same IMEI which can be fixed later via IMEI changing utilities.
What's the problem then ?
How can you access the device if it wont even start ? there is a need to communicate with the device and at which , one thread suggested finding the test points of the mother board so that they would use it to write a valied IPL/SPL memory dump to the IPL/SPL memory.
So ?
This process relies heavily on true understanding of Wizard board and sad enough it has to be leaked and not acquired (not unless we are with an extra ordinary mentality)
Does this mean a brick is dead ?
Ok can you get the board replaced in a first / second / third party shop ? if so then you saved your self a load of hassel , as would you realy build up a cable interface ? and where would you get a valied memory dump ? and what software to use to communicate with a wizard board ?
So you see , the wizard is 7 years old now , and its hard to assume that such data would be leaked atm as it wasnt leaked back when the wizard was a star. so yes , too bad you will have to buy a board .. or there is someone who can prove me wrong .. cheers
Now the question is , what is a brick ?
a brick is a device that wont power up through any mean nutral or based on a back door (ex: Camera+Power , Send+Power , End+Power, Com+Speed Dial+Power.. etc) so to note , if your device can wake up at any of these methodes , it is not a brick. It would rather be fixed easily.
How would a device reach such state ?
Hardware fault , the device got physicaly damaged.
Software fault , the device lost its IMEI (the device serial number , would survive if corrupted only if IMEI figure is of same number of digits).
How would a device lose its IMEI ?
IMEI of wizard device is written within same memory that holds the SPL/IPL (device bios in pc language), which could easily be lost in case of flashing a G3 SPL/IPL on a G4 board since the memory address of the G4 IMEI is different to that of G3 and would be over-written by G3 SPL/IPL.
Would this happen to G3 devices too ?
It is rare since no G4 (SPL/IPL) roms are released except from carriers and they are very cautious at reviewing device ids (another name for IMEI ;) when it comes to G4 cause G4 was specificaly designed to be a locked phone.
Then would a G3 be bricked ?
Yes , current alteration/failier during the writing phase of the SPL/IPL would lead to corruption of such memory. also faulty batteries can get the device there on the long run.
Can the devices be fixed ?
Ever heard of cloneing ? If you can clone 2 device memories then you can get it to un-brick as simple as that , only both devices are going to have the same IMEI which can be fixed later via IMEI changing utilities.
What's the problem then ?
How can you access the device if it wont even start ? there is a need to communicate with the device and at which , one thread suggested finding the test points of the mother board so that they would use it to write a valied IPL/SPL memory dump to the IPL/SPL memory.
So ?
This process relies heavily on true understanding of Wizard board and sad enough it has to be leaked and not acquired (not unless we are with an extra ordinary mentality)
Does this mean a brick is dead ?
Ok can you get the board replaced in a first / second / third party shop ? if so then you saved your self a load of hassel , as would you realy build up a cable interface ? and where would you get a valied memory dump ? and what software to use to communicate with a wizard board ?
So you see , the wizard is 7 years old now , and its hard to assume that such data would be leaked atm as it wasnt leaked back when the wizard was a star. so yes , too bad you will have to buy a board .. or there is someone who can prove me wrong .. cheers