Stuck in Bootloader with no option of mtty

[blingin]

My Dear Samaritans,

IMPORTANT:

- My SD/Memory card is removed
- My Sim card is removed

I was upgrading to Tomal v8.9 on a vista 64 system via a virtual machine XP SP2. Update failed and I got stuck in bootloader.

Tried reflashing but got an error and the flash failed... also the program crashed during recovery.

Tried using v8.71 still crashed without any luck.

Moved to a pure XP SP3 desktop...

When I connect the device to the computer(s) "Serial" changes to "USB" but XP sees it as an unrecognized device.

Tried flashing again but same error as on the virtual machine.

Tried mtty (1.16 & 1.42) but neither give me the option of USB, only COM1 and COM2. And had already de-activated the USB connection in Activesync.

Have read through the forum but have had no luck. Everyone's issue is resolved as soon as they remove their SD or SIM, but I have neither and am also using XP with activesync's USB disabled.

Tried UNI_ExitBootloader but that does not find/recognise the device either.

If it helps -- My device is/was an O2 XDA Exec (Stock) which I had previously flashed with Tomal's v8.5

I am ready to try anything, please help!

P.S: The error is Error 112

[tomal]

Did you install ActiveSync on xp pc?
If not, do it now and try again.

[enigma1nz]

and MTTY was the only solution, but although the Serial changed to USB, I got 'unrecognised' message and Mtty didn't give USB as an option. At some point it occured to me that it was my computer's USB port, for some reason the device was recognised by 1 in 4 ports only, So I just tried my USB cable in different ports until the 'device unrecognised' messaged stopped appearing. Finally, after I was ready to cry in frustration, it just worked. Don't give up.

I heard it mentioned somewhere that the device that went through Mtty will be recognised only by the port used in Mtty procedure.


That... or your device's USB is no longer properly attached to the mainboard.

[blingin]

Did you install ActiveSync on xp pc?
If not, do it now and try again.

Already have activesync 4.5 installed with USB connection disabled...

Thank you so much for the prompt response and helpful thought!

[blingin]

and MTTY was the only solution, but although the Serial changed to USB, I got 'unrecognised' message and Mtty didn't give USB as an option. At some point it occured to me that it was my computer's USB port, for some reason the device was recognised by 1 in 4 ports only, So I just tried my USB cable in different ports until the 'device unrecognised' messaged stopped appearing. Finally, after I was ready to cry in frustration, it just worked. Don't give up.

I heard it mentioned somewhere that the device that went through Mtty will be recognised only by the port used in Mtty procedure.


That... or your device's USB is no longer properly attached to the mainboard.

Thank you for the ray of hope! Will keep trying every hourly reboot in every USB port (4 in all).

Weird thing is I never had to go through mtty before so this is my first need for it.

Got the physical connection checked and it is supposedly OK...

Thank you for the prompt help...

[330e]

I had exactly the same problem. First I tried this (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Uni_Stuck_Bootloader_Serial) and it worked but still no connection via mtty. On that evening I disconnected and connected a lot and I removed the battery for a long time (one night). Later I could connect but I don't know why. Maybe these two things were the solution. Mtty showed "usb>" and I've done a DOC format...
If nothing works I would create a rom-image (on sunday or monday) for your sd-card like it's written in the service manual (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC%20Universal%20Service%20Man ual).

[enigma1nz]

Thank you for the ray of hope! Will keep trying every hourly reboot in every USB port (4 in all).

Weird thing is I never had to go through mtty before so this is my first need for it.

Got the physical connection checked and it is supposedly OK...

Thank you for the prompt help...

No need for hourly reboots, just get into Bootloader, connect USB to your device and try different ports on computer with a few seconds in between to ensure no 'unrecognised device' message popping up. Once you'll get a connection - go for Mtty facility, the USB is the last on the list of ports.

[blingin]

I had exactly the same problem. First I tried this (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Uni_Stuck_Bootloader_Serial) and it worked but still no connection via mtty. On that evening I disconnected and connected a lot and I removed the battery for a long time (one night). Later I could connect but I don't know why. Maybe these two things were the solution. Mtty showed "usb>" and I've done a DOC format...
If nothing works I would create a rom-image (on sunday or monday) for your sd-card like it's written in the service manual (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC%20Universal%20Service%20Man ual).

There was no SD card when I began the initial flash but it still got stuck. Been trying without the SD and SIM but to no avail...

Thank you for the manual, downloading it now, will keep everyone posted in case anyone else is suffering from the same thing...

[blingin]

No need for hourly reboots, just get into Bootloader, connect USB to your device and try different ports on computer with a few seconds in between to ensure no 'unrecognised device' message popping up. Once you'll get a connection - go for Mtty facility, the USB is the last on the list of ports.

Still trying, will keep you posted and thank you for the responses!

[330e]

I think you understood me wrong. When your device is still unusable, I would create the files you need to do the steps in point 8.3 (Use Pre-loaded SD card to Re-flash Unit) in the service manual.

Sorry for my bad english

[blingin]

I think you understood me wrong. When your device is still unusable, I would create the files you need to do the steps in point 8.3 (Use Pre-loaded SD card to Re-flash Unit) in the service manual.

Sorry for my bad english


It's the thought that counts not the language, thank you so much for your help!

[330e]

I created succesfully a pre-loaded sd card, flashing via this sd works. But I can't copy the files. When I want to open the drive it says, that I have to format the sd card. Is there a special tool to copy the files? Or you find someone near you with a universal.

[tomal]

your need to format your SD after flashing.

[blingin]

I created succesfully a pre-loaded sd card, flashing via this sd works. But I can't copy the files. When I want to open the drive it says, that I have to format the sd card. Is there a special tool to copy the files? Or you find someone near you with a universal.

your need to format your SD after flashing.

Tried the SD image method with a 128MB SD but didn't work. Maybe because I have a G4 and the method is for G3

[blingin]

managed to get a connection finally and ran MTTY, after "task28 55a" it just hung for a long time so I disconnected.

Tried running UNI_ExitBootloader.exe and now can get in and out of Bootloader but still cannot flash or connect...

Any suggestions welcome...

[martinbrettphilo]

This might sound silly but it's worked for me in the past.

1. Go into bootloader (without mem card or sim)

2. Plug-in the USB cable

3. Hold the buttons to go into bootloader again whilst plugged in.

4. DOC Format

5. Flash ROM

My Universal had loads of problems but that is how i fixed it, tried everything else like you, when i first plugged it in on the bootloader nothing happened until i pressed and held the buttons whilst it was plugged in, then windows made the usb connected sound so i quickly mtty'd! lol

Hope this helps, Good luck!!!

[blingin]

This might sound silly but it's worked for me in the past.

1. Go into bootloader (without mem card or sim)

2. Plug-in the USB cable

3. Hold the buttons to go into bootloader again whilst plugged in.

4. DOC Format

5. Flash ROM

My Universal had loads of problems but that is how i fixed it, tried everything else like you, when i first plugged it in on the bootloader nothing happened until i pressed and held the buttons whilst it was plugged in, then windows made the usb connected sound so i quickly mtty'd! lol

Hope this helps, Good luck!!!

Thank you...

[sounirvalice]

My Dear Samaritans,


Tried reflashing but got an error and the flash failed... also the program crashed during recovery.

When I connect the device to the computer(s) "Serial" changes to "USB" stuck within the bootloader screen


Tried mtty (1.16 & 1.42) but neither give me the option of USB, only COM1 and COM2. And had already de-activated the USB connection in Activesync.

Have read through the forum but have had no luck.

I am ready to try anything, please help!

P.S: The error is Error 112

Hi i have had similar problems also i have an XDA 2 pda originaly had wm2003 on it (tried to flash it to wm2003se ) can someone help me also im realy at a loss =C many thanks in advance (i will give more detail if someone actualy) replys to me

[orb3000]

Welcome to the forum
Universal does not means all devices, actually is a model:eek:

Please enter into the right section of the forum

Goos luck,

[sounirvalice]

I have an XDA II was on O2 uk network. I used to flash it all the time and knew my way around. however recently i flashed it in vista without thinking.. and as i upgraded the rom from wm2003 to wm2003se about 25% of the way through vista disconnected the device then it was unrecognised usb.. then vista started installing new drivers that recognised the device... however this then crashed flashing the rom onto the pda..

It wont soft or hard reset, i took the battery out for 24 hours and tried again and nothing.. the only thing on screen is that it says serial on the top of the screen (which changes to usb when connected but get error 101 when trying to reflash/ no activesync connection and am confused my mtty as when it does connect i cant type into the text area only paste)

on the bottom of the screen is v1.06 (which before the flash crash was V1.0 something lower than v1.06)

basicaly is the device recoverable as long as i have this serial / usb recognition by the device????? (using mtty i cant connect through ports or usb but thats because i dont seem to understand how to use it)

the other question is is there any other way to get a rom back onto the device without mtty or activesynch..

I pray that ysomeone will respond .. i miss my pda dearly

a thousand thanks in advance :o

[sounirvalice]

Hi enigma1nz

I hope you can help (must admit im amazed that a lass such as yourself has an interest in pdas) prehaps im subconciously sexist :p sorry lol anyway

I have an XDA II was on O2 uk network. I used to flash it all the time and knew my way around. however recently i flashed it in vista without thinking.. and as i upgraded the rom from wm2003 to wm2003se about 25% of the way through vista disconnected the device then it was unrecognised usb.. then vista started installing new drivers that recognised the device... however this then crashed flashing the rom onto the pda..

It wont soft or hard reset, i took the battery out for 24 hours and tried again and nothing.. the only thing on screen is that it says serial on the top of the screen (which changes to usb when connected but get error 101 when trying to reflash/ no activesync connection and am confused my mtty as when it does connect i cant type into the text area only paste)

on the bottom of the screen is v1.06 (which before the flash crash was V1.0 something lower than v1.06)

basicaly is the device recoverable as long as i have this serial / usb recognition by the device????? (using mtty i cant connect through ports or usb but thats because i dont seem to understand how to use it)

the other question is is there any other way to get a rom back onto the device without mtty or activesynch..

I pray that you can help or someone will respond .. i miss my pda dearly

a thousand thanks in advance :o

[enigma1nz]

Hi enigma1nz

I hope you can help (must admit im amazed that a lass such as yourself has an interest in pdas) prehaps im subconciously sexist :p sorry lol anyway

I have an XDA II was on O2 uk network. I used to flash it all the time and knew my way around. however recently i flashed it in vista without thinking.. and as i upgraded the rom from wm2003 to wm2003se about 25% of the way through vista disconnected the device then it was unrecognised usb.. then vista started installing new drivers that recognised the device... however this then crashed flashing the rom onto the pda..

It wont soft or hard reset, i took the battery out for 24 hours and tried again and nothing.. the only thing on screen is that it says serial on the top of the screen (which changes to usb when connected but get error 101 when trying to reflash/ no activesync connection and am confused my mtty as when it does connect i cant type into the text area only paste)

on the bottom of the screen is v1.06 (which before the flash crash was V1.0 something lower than v1.06)

basicaly is the device recoverable as long as i have this serial / usb recognition by the device????? (using mtty i cant connect through ports or usb but thats because i dont seem to understand how to use it)

the other question is is there any other way to get a rom back onto the device without mtty or activesynch..

I pray that you can help or someone will respond .. i miss my pda dearly

a thousand thanks in advance :o


Of course it is recoverable, pretty much anything is recoverable, as long as it's not completely and irrevocably dead :)
My advice would be to use a computer that runs XP. Alternatively, there are instruction here somewhere that explain how to do it on Vista. However, I would recommend XP in all cases.

P.S. You would be even more amazed if you knew I don't just have an interest in PDA, I actually repair them it for a living.

[rajivshahi]

I have an XDA II was on O2 uk network. I used to flash it all the time and knew my way around. however recently i flashed it in vista without thinking.. and as i upgraded the rom from wm2003 to wm2003se about 25% of the way through vista disconnected the device then it was unrecognised usb..

Hi dude are you talking about Universal or some other device:confused::confused::confused:.... if you are talking about a uni then it history lol as i haven't seen any uni running wm2003 .. if you r running one :eek::eek:then devs and chefs would be interested to have that rom as we can take out so many good things from it......:D:D

Cheers
Rajiv

[god_love_power]

I have the same DEADLY serial message in my bootscreen
Still stuck in bootloader without any charge in my battry!!!!!(and it didn't charge!)

[blingin]

I have the same DEADLY serial message in my bootscreen
Still stuck in bootloader without any charge in my battry!!!!!(and it didn't charge!)

Same thing (dead battery) happened to mine eventually.
There is a universal (not HTC universal) Chinese made battery charger which charges all and any battery without the phone, you can get it on ebay, hope this helps.

As for my bootloader problem, tried with 3 different XP machines and was still stuck on the pretty Serial USB screen till I was out of juice...