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ssj5trunks
16th October 2009, 08:45 AM
I tried to do that with my hgWeather widget
IA.SetColorKey(bmpWeather.GetPixel(0, 0), bmpWeather.GetPixel(0, 0))
but couldn't make it work. Could you look at the source?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4736711&postcount=15

Ok for IA to set Color Key of bitmap but after you must use the DrawImage command to draw correctly the image transparent like this:

IA.SetColorKey(bmpWeather.GetPixel(0, 0), bmpWeather.GetPixel(0, 0))
gx.DrawImage(bmpWeather,New Rectangle(0,0,100,100), 0,0, bmpWeather.Width,bmpWeather.Height,GraphicsUnit.Pi xel, IA)

Use the correct graphics object or you draw it directly on Androkkid desktop.
Test this and i think it work.

Bye

P.S.
I'm very excited look all your works, i'm really moved.

attegnas
16th October 2009, 02:30 PM
I placed a contact on the main screen, when I tap on it a box appears on the screen asking if I want to call, send SMS, or MMS, when I tap on call nothing else happens and the dialog box disappears. I have a Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2, any ideas?

wmdirk
16th October 2009, 02:39 PM
Why you post here this files?????

Sorry. Removed the files.

leonardoaraujo
16th October 2009, 09:21 PM
does anyone bother with the square icons?:mad:

ajige
17th October 2009, 01:02 AM
Ok for IA to set Color Key of bitmap but after you must use the DrawImage command to draw correctly the image transparent like this:

IA.SetColorKey(bmpWeather.GetPixel(0, 0), bmpWeather.GetPixel(0, 0))
gx.DrawImage(bmpWeather,New Rectangle(0,0,100,100), 0,0, bmpWeather.Width,bmpWeather.Height,GraphicsUnit.Pi xel, IA)

Use the correct graphics object or you draw it directly on Androkkid desktop.
Test this and i think it work.

Bye

P.S.
I'm very excited look all your works, i'm really moved.

Thank you! :)
I finally got the transparency working. At first, it would crash Androkkid, and I finally realized that it was out of memory, because it wouldn't even load the page with all the widgets that comes up when you click add widget.
I've also noticed before that the widget dll's seem to be loaded into memory when Androkkid is started (meaning if I want to install a newer version of a widget, I have to go out of Androkkid first).
As you probably have realized, I don't know much about memory usage, but it seems to me, that it would be better to only load the widget dll's when you actually use them?

farzad23
17th October 2009, 08:47 AM
hi
for may typhoon it did not work .any solution ????
thanx

quicksite
17th October 2009, 09:08 AM
hi
for may typhoon it did not work .any solution ????
thanx

No phone or application set can be used in a typhoon. These phones cannot withstand the pounding water against the device. Please move to dry land and try again.

farzad23
17th October 2009, 11:25 AM
thanx for reply but i mean i installed androkkid on typhoon (rom wm6.5 aulet) but when i try to run androkkid it had no reflex.

any solution any thing to do that androkkid work on my phone????

sorry for my english

burnlea
17th October 2009, 12:10 PM
No phone or application set can be used in a typhoon. These phones cannot withstand the pounding water against the device. Please move to dry land and try again.

Lost in translation!

ssj5trunks
17th October 2009, 03:13 PM
Thank you! :)
I finally got the transparency working. At first, it would crash Androkkid, and I finally realized that it was out of memory, because it wouldn't even load the page with all the widgets that comes up when you click add widget.
I've also noticed before that the widget dll's seem to be loaded into memory when Androkkid is started (meaning if I want to install a newer version of a widget, I have to go out of Androkkid first).
As you probably have realized, I don't know much about memory usage, but it seems to me, that it would be better to only load the widget dll's when you actually use them?

Remind to dispose bitmap first of create a new bitmap or there is a memory leak.
For bitmap i use the Using command, search in Google.

Bye

quicksite
18th October 2009, 01:52 AM
Up!
I want know if interest anyone or not!

Bye

Simo -- I am really psyched about how fast you've made this app ... and i can't wait to see more widgets.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=238243&stc=1&d=1255823283


What I would love is if someone could make a date widget that is transparent and could fit in the space under my analog clock, in this format (American date style):

Sat. OCT 17 .09

with white type -- or configurable color, which would be even greater.

quicksite
18th October 2009, 01:53 AM
Lost in translation!

No, not at all. I was just trying to be absurd! hah hah

imperiallight
18th October 2009, 03:09 AM
This is awesome

mlin
18th October 2009, 03:30 AM
Great app! Thanks! Would love to see a music player widget that integrates with S2P or HTC Audio.

top_banana123
18th October 2009, 04:42 AM
[QUOTE=Showtime7;4635049]Open Notepad.

Past this in:

20#"\Windows\tmail.exe" -service "SMS" -open "inbox"

Save as... SMS_inbox.lnk (select all files instead of txt)

Copy file to your device.

Add a Shortcut, find the path where you saved it...

--------------------------
Can you do this for email inbox?

top_banana123
18th October 2009, 04:45 AM
[QUOTE=ajige;4633810]That's how I want it too, so I've changed it.
Just unzip the attached file, and replace the original dll file.

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However it still has white over the calendar icon, text needs to move to the right. Also the date shown is always the start date of the repeat appointments. Is it possible for it to show the next appointment? (Oh the irony ;)

loungelizard182
18th October 2009, 07:23 PM
Great app, first off!!! I have created contact icons that are wide and short, easy to push. I have then dedicated a page to contacts. Because of the size of the icons I can't fit to many on that page.

My idea is this, could you make it so that each page can also be scrolled down and then back up. As smooth as the page currently scroll from left to right, only not an entire vertical pages worth. Only have the page move vertically as much as the thumb movment dictates. Then scanning to another page left to right would then cause the previously viewed page back to its "home locataction" (back to the top) Please find the attached photos as a mapping for this idea

I think this idea would be verry usful to many users in different sinarios.Thankyou verry much for taking the time to review my idea. I do hope you like it, please let me know what you think. Whats more. I currently have no money to donate at this time. Though I will make a donation when I can. I hope my idea proves to be a donation for now!!

Great work on the App! I love it. Keep up the great work!!

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc163/loungelizard182/Screen05.pnghttp://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc163/loungelizard182/Screen06-1.pnghttp://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc163/loungelizard182/Screen07.pnghttp://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc163/loungelizard182/Screen08.png

Lie127
18th October 2009, 07:48 PM
this is 80% perfect...
could you remove the "Androkkid" in the upside, you can change it with "Start" again...

fherfort
18th October 2009, 11:05 PM
Hi ssj5trunks,

for my wifi widget I use some external dll's. When now open the Add Widget dialog, all dll's will be listed as widgets.
I tried to merge my widget dll with those external ones using ILMerge - but seems not to work.

For upcoming releases: can you add a hint to let you determine, a dll contains a widget or not. (like deriving custom widget from a base class/interface - or a attribute to our widget class?)

THX

quicksite
19th October 2009, 12:14 AM
Great app, first off!!! I have created contact icons that are wide and short, easy to push. I have then dedicated a page to contacts. Because of the size of the icons I can't fit to many on that page.

My idea is this, could you make it so that each page can also be scrolled down and then back up

Lounge, i know you have your own idea in mind. I just suggest you check out the very lean, clean & fast app called AVATAR , written by supbro, who's done great things with iCOntact and iDialer.

See it here: (just released August 29, 2009) -- oh yeah, it scrolls vertically, with a flip of a finger

http://supware.net/Avatar/Avatar-1.0.png
XDA THREAD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552558

This is just so you know what's out there. I have avatar as one of my icon/links on androkkid page

loungelizard182
19th October 2009, 04:02 AM
Thanks quicksite, but my idea for Simo is not just as related to my contacts situation... I just think it is a pretty trick idea. I would use this vertical scroll feature on just about every one of my androkkid pages. Also all I need is androkkid, this app is it, top 'o the heap!

carlosmolinero
19th October 2009, 08:56 AM
It seems to me a great very promising application and. Easy to use and thought very well.
There am it been trying with my Samsung Omnia and I have not obtained that it worked to me correctly: I never install if it in the memory card it works, and I install if it in the memory of the device sometimes works but usually it fails in some process, without being able to use it with normality.
I do not know if it is predicted that it only works for devices HTC, but on the contrary I offer myself to realise tests and to specify the failures more in detail.

alecoddlyiv
19th October 2009, 02:31 PM
Hi ssj5trunks how is the development of folders going please?

I'm hoping my interpretation of this would be that you can add a folder to a page which in turn will contain a number of shortcuts.

It would be nice to be able to group together all setings shortcuts similar to the standard interface by sub catagories.

what would be even better is when you slide up the page if the buttons either side could be used to bring up either customisable link pages or the phone settings themselves

thanks again, i have now found i can nearly live without spb mobile shell.

looking forward to the next release and making a donation:D

greatbal
19th October 2009, 04:20 PM
very promising app. if I find the time i'll try to learn how to program widgets too. :)

any support for png's with alpha channel? alpha blending would be a really nice addition.

burnlea
19th October 2009, 05:01 PM
Hi Simo,

I've noticed the Battery Widget, when connected to a charging source, takes over 1 minute for the green 'fill' to to complete its cycle, so an instant glance gives the impression that the green 'fill' represents the actual charge capacity. Is it possible to speed that up to say 15 seconds in the next release, so that it is clear that it represents only the fact that the battery is being charged? Also as mentioned in a previous post, could the legend be changed from 'In charging' to just 'Charging'.

mrfett79
19th October 2009, 05:09 PM
Sorry if this had been covered before. I did dearch and didn't see this addressed. I have a Sprint Touch Pro and when I have this running without minimizing the battery drains very fast. I was looking to use this as an alternative to Touchflo3d but not if the battery life is going to be so bad. I did notoce that the battery lasted longer if Androikkid is minimized and not "active" all the time. Is there any way to work on battery consumption?
Thanks and keep up the awsome work.

fherfort
19th October 2009, 08:49 PM
I'm almost done with my WiFi widget.
since I use several external dll's and those are getting displayed in the select widget dialog, i wanted to incorporate/merge all necessary dependencies using ILMerge. when you now add it via the dialog, it fails with an exection. if you add it manually, it is working fine.

NullReferenceException

at AndrokkidLibrary.MyIcon.LoadWidget(String Link, String LinkArgs)
at AndrokkidLibrary.MyIcon..ctor(String Name, String Type, String Image, String Link, String LinkArgs, Boolean OpenAnimation, Color OpenAnimationColor, Boolean Blocked, Int32 Page, Rectangle Position)
at Androkkid.Start.mniAddWidget_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.MenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Menu.ProcessMnuProc(Control ctlThis, WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at System.Windows.Forms.ContextMenu.ProcessMnuProc(Co ntrol ctlThis, WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at Microsoft.AGL.Forms.ML.ShowContextMenu(IntPtr hmnuThis, IntPtr hwnTempOwner, Int32 x, Int32 y)
at System.Windows.Forms.ContextMenu.Show(Control ctrl, Point pos)
at Androkkid.Start.Start_MouseUp(Object sender, MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnMouseUp(MouseEventA rgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterMainLoop(IntPtr hwnMain)
at System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(Form fm)
at Androkkid.Start.Main()

burnlea
19th October 2009, 10:55 PM
Some feedback for you Simo:

I have not been able to get the 'Parameters' field to forward more than 1 command line argument at a time, is this a bug?

e.g. in a 'Mail' shortcut, if I use:

-service "SMS" -open "Inbox"

only the 'service' argument gets implemented and not the 'open' argument

If I make a .lnk shortcut containing both arguments, it forwards both.

CGCampbell
20th October 2009, 01:01 AM
sorry to be a noob but where would we get new widgets for the android

alecoddlyiv
20th October 2009, 02:20 AM
there are only a handful of built in widgets at the moment others are available in this thread

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569566

CGCampbell
20th October 2009, 05:41 AM
there are only a handful of built in widgets at the moment others are available in this thread

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569566

thanks that helped but didnt have what i was looking, trying to get the txting put onto the screen so i can access the txts

alecoddlyiv
20th October 2009, 06:23 AM
i think this is what your asking for .....

what you need to do is paste the following into a notepad

20#"\Windows\tmail.exe" -service "SMS" -open "inbox"

save it as sms.lnk or whatever you want and then drop onto your phone,

use the right hand button to add a new shortcut and browse for you link

once this is on the desktop drag it to the bottom bar and edit it to read

name : sms
type : sms
image : use existing or browse for another

then ok

ssj5trunks
20th October 2009, 09:20 AM
Some feedback for you Simo:

I have not been able to get the 'Parameters' field to forward more than 1 command line argument at a time, is this a bug?

e.g. in a 'Mail' shortcut, if I use:

-service "SMS" -open "Inbox"

only the 'service' argument gets implemented and not the 'open' argument

If I make a .lnk shortcut containing both arguments, it forwards both.

I think in new version it work correctly.
Bye

kai999
20th October 2009, 12:14 PM
I´am using HTC Diamond. The Software is very good, but my settings always getting lost. Even I only set one simple Icon.

I dont know know why?

itesla
20th October 2009, 09:02 PM
Just starting with Androkkid and it looks great. Long time rlToday user with an ancient Wizard/8125. Performance is pretty good (first out of all the other animated GUI tools I've tried). Some ideas/questions...

-can I hide the bottom "buttons" I'd rather just long press the background to get the menu which also has "add..." sub-menu
-can I change the directory that the slide up launcher uses? I have tons of stuff in my start menu, prefer just a smaller list of programs/icons rather than pages of games
-are widgets configurable? I'd like to change a font size on some (clock). I'd like to turn the text off on others (signal strength, battery)
-is there an option to make a widget show on all pages? I'd like the clock or a "topbar" widget to always show
-can androkkid be made to show as the "desktop". so when i bring another app like messaging up, the androkkid still shows in the "top bar" area. I have done this on rltoday to tweak how my "top bar" looks when using other apps.
-anyone have a nice set of matching icons? most of the default wm5 icons are very Windows3-ish
-widget idea: registry text box widget - bring in text from a registry entry. Would be nice to support line wrap, line feeds, maybe even bold characters, background image/frame

burnlea
20th October 2009, 09:19 PM
Hi Simo,

A further 'observation' for you. I'm not sure whether this is a 'bug' in Androkkid or a 'feature' of Windows Mobile 6.1, but if I make a shortcut to a secure website (https), such as is needed for gmail (Google mail) using a 'Link to webpage' shortcut, when I switch Androkkid off and then back on again, the shortcut has disappeared. A workaround I have found is to save the secure website address as a 'favorite', and then use a standard shortcut to that favorite.

sallal
20th October 2009, 10:35 PM
Very nice program man !
Good work, I like it very much :)

sallal
20th October 2009, 10:36 PM
EDIT: sorry for double post, my computer was suckin at the moment i pressed "post"

top_banana123
20th October 2009, 11:32 PM
First off, Simo, this is a fantastic UI. I've decided to use this as my main launcher over Titanium or Manila.

Second, for all the folks having trouble with voicemail, the way I got it working was to use the command line dial feature of iDialer, my dialer of choice. (FYI - iDialer is awesome; I use it because of its Google Voice integration). I made the following shortcut, where xxxyyyzzzz is my 10 digit cell number.



And of course, I set the Type of the shortcut to be Voicemail. It shows up my voicemail count correctly, and it dials my voicemail number correctly on pressing.

Is it possible with the standard 6.1 dialer?

ero69
21st October 2009, 12:02 AM
Hi Simo,

A further 'observation' for you. I'm not sure whether this is a 'bug' in Androkkid or a 'feature' of Windows Mobile 6.1, but if I make a shortcut to a secure website (https), such as is needed for gmail (Google mail) using a 'Link to webpage' shortcut, when I switch Androkkid off and then back on again, the shortcut has disappeared. A workaround I have found is to save the secure website address as a 'favorite', and then use a standard shortcut to that favorite.

Same happens to me.....

It's likely that you have an = sign somewhere in the link.

This has been fixed for the next version.

top_banana123
21st October 2009, 12:03 AM
In next version is corrected.

Bye

Firstly fantastic, well done. Suit's me way better than TF3D and/or win 6.1. Can navigate my device, contacts, calender apps everything much faster. One major showstopper for me though is the power drain. I can't understand why but even with nothing running (well no apps anyway) the battery is dying twice as fast as it use to without Androkkid. My better half has the same phone and at moment it's still running TF3D. With both phones on but in standby (blank screen) after 3hrs her phone has lost 1 bar in the settings power page whereas mine is down to 50%! Any ideas? Oh and when is the next version so that I can use the calendar widget without the overlapping text and the first of the recurrent appointments always showing?
You must be very busy with everybody's wish lists! Once again great job.
Pete

sansaguy
21st October 2009, 12:05 AM
Wow looks awesome!
I tried 0.4.0.0 once and can't wait to get my hands on this Version!

Keep up the good work!

hackbob
21st October 2009, 12:54 AM
Damn Good Man.
Now my boss will regret his iPhone (the only thing he was complaning about PPC was the UI).

I'll keep an eye on the Widget, it will be avesome to have a widget like TodayAgenda to show on a single page all the tasks and appointments (maybe i should try to write one).

Thx Man

P.S. I've found the hgTask Today, and it seems to partially do what i need

wnyhiphop
21st October 2009, 04:10 PM
is this supposed to work in landscape mode? having trouble with background image and icons.

orangekid
21st October 2009, 04:12 PM
Is there any way to point the "All Programs" pull up tab to a certain location so it doesn't list EVERYTHING and just the programs I want it to?

ssj5trunks
21st October 2009, 04:26 PM
Is there any way to point the "All Programs" pull up tab to a certain location so it doesn't list EVERYTHING and just the programs I want it to?

For now no, but if i implement a variable to set the directory to start reading EXE and LNK files it's possible to work.
Why you want change the folder of programs list????

Bye

ssj5trunks
21st October 2009, 04:28 PM
is this supposed to work in landscape mode? having trouble with background image and icons.

The landscape view isnt implemented and if i find a way to not turn the application in landscape mode i implement it.
In Android the UI dont rotate, in my Hero it doesnt.

Bye

orangekid
21st October 2009, 04:32 PM
For now no, but if i implement a variable to set the directory to start reading EXE and LNK files it's possible to work.
Why you want change the folder of programs list????

Bye



I just like to have the programs I actually USE there and it looks a lot nicer. there are things in my start menu that I don't really need listed in my All Programs (like diamondconfig, activesync, CHome editor, etc...) and if I let my girlfriend use my phone she gets all confused as to what program does what and where things are, it looks cluttered. This way I wouldn't have to have 2 pages of my own programs, I could use the pages for widgets and just pull up the Programs tab to get to the programs I actually want listed like my apps and games only. I think it would make it really awesome.

kraski
21st October 2009, 11:06 PM
I originally started using Androkkid .060 & .080 on my Treo Pro, SQVGA, 320x320, using RealVGA to set the screen at 96dpi instead of 128dpi. I just switched to a Tilt2 (AT&T's GSM version of the Touch Pro 2), which is 480x800, WVGA. Androkkid now crashes at the first shortcut tap or attempt to switch pages. I had moved my storage card from one phone to the other, so I reinstalled in the same folder, figuring Androkkid would retain my settings, etc. It crashed as described above. I then uninstalled Androkkid, manually deleted the folder, then reinstalled. No change -- still crashing. I'd really like to continue using it on my new phone. Any ideas?

ssj5trunks
21st October 2009, 11:40 PM
Install in phone memory and not in a memory card.
Try this.

kraski
22nd October 2009, 05:24 AM
Install in phone memory and not in a memory card.
Try this.

Just did. Installed to phone, started Androkkid, changed theme to Hero, changed number of pages to 7, start page on 1st page, saved settings. When Androkkid came back up, I installed the Hero Clock widget, then I started to install Goraps weather widget, at which point I got a fatal error message & quit Androkkid. I tried restarting it, but got the same fatal error message. I then did a soft reset, started Androkkid, I at least got the animated splash screen, but before anything else happened, I got the same fatal error message.

When I was running Androkkid on my Treo Pro, it was installed on my storage card & running under WM 6.1. On the Tilt2, it crashes whether it's on the phone or the storage card & the Tilt2 rins WM 6.5. So, is there maybe some difference in WM 6.5 that needs to be adjusted for in Androkkid or the widgets?

ssj5trunks
22nd October 2009, 08:36 AM
Just did. Installed to phone, started Androkkid, changed theme to Hero, changed number of pages to 7, start page on 1st page, saved settings. When Androkkid came back up, I installed the Hero Clock widget, then I started to install Goraps weather widget, at which point I got a fatal error message & quit Androkkid. I tried restarting it, but got the same fatal error message. I then did a soft reset, started Androkkid, I at least got the animated splash screen, but before anything else happened, I got the same fatal error message.

When I was running Androkkid on my Treo Pro, it was installed on my storage card & running under WM 6.1. On the Tilt2, it crashes whether it's on the phone or the storage card & the Tilt2 rins WM 6.5. So, is there maybe some difference in WM 6.5 that needs to be adjusted for in Androkkid or the widgets?

I think there is a problem with Goraps widget.
The ways are 2:
1) remove Settings.ini in Androkkid folder
2) edit Settings.ini and remove the row of Icons where is Goraps Wheather widget.

Bye

chancer63
22nd October 2009, 09:29 AM
@kraski

Installation and Setup Instructions
1) Downlad and unpack GORAPSWeather.zip
2) Open GorapsWeather.mscr with a text editor and make the appropriate changes to the two variables: location and units.
- Change location to the accuweather.com location code for your location.
If you need to find your code go to www.accuweather.com/m and search for your city. Then you will see the location code in the URL. It will look something like NAM|CA|ON|MARKHAM.
- Change units to C or F.
3) Save your edited script.
4) Copy the GORAPSWeather folder to the Androkkid widgets folder on your phone.
5) Execute the click on the GorapsWeather.mscr in a file explorer to initialize the values. If you don't do this and add the widget it will crash Androkkid.
6) Add the widget to your Androkkid desktop. Clicking on the widget will update the weather data.


#5 should help.

CU

revolucions
22nd October 2009, 12:46 PM
I think it is the problem with Compact framework version, or dll not present in the directory of Androkkid.
In next version i add all DLL of framework in program folder.
Bye

Grazie mille, Simo!! I hope it will work!! :)

itesla
22nd October 2009, 02:49 PM
Anyone have a link to an icon set that works well with Androkkid? I have been using some black glass icons from rltoday. They don't work right. Also tried some from the iReflect post.... both have transparency issues.

goraps
22nd October 2009, 02:59 PM
@kraski



#5 should help.

CU
You beat me to it.
If you have run the script and it still doesn't work then post the following registry key so I can have a look at it.
HKLM\Software\Goraps

kraski
22nd October 2009, 05:24 PM
#5 should help.

CU

Thanks. Forgot about that one. That fixed it & Androkkid is back on the storage card, running well.

kraski
22nd October 2009, 05:34 PM
You beat me to it.
If you have run the script and it still doesn't work then post the following registry key so I can have a look at it.
HKLM\Software\Goraps

Now that I have it working on the Tilt2, I can add that the original size is right for WVGA. With one exception -- if you're a bit "more mature", the info at the upper right is readable but still so tiny that you have to squint & look at it a little longer. A variation to accomodate those of us whose eyesight isn't what it used to be would be greatly appreciated. :)

goraps
22nd October 2009, 05:57 PM
Now that I have it working on the Tilt2, I can add that the original size is right for WVGA. With one exception -- if you're a bit "more mature", the info at the upper right is readable but still so tiny that you have to squint & look at it a little longer. A variation to accomodate those of us whose eyesight isn't what it used to be would be greatly appreciated. :)
Yes, now that you have abandoned Real VGA I will work on fixing it for WVGA and QVGA. I have a VGA device (diamond) so I am developing using an emulator and Real VGA was giving me one heck of a time.

krazyme
22nd October 2009, 06:42 PM
I have been using Androkkid for a day, so I'm a fresh user

ss5jtrunks already helped me with call menu (disabled now),but by using it over the day I have seen it crashing many times.

I've looked at the thread, and I've seen it reported already, but here is what I've seen anyway :

- as long as I use Androkkid without stopping, there is no problem
- when I leave my phone long enough to go to eco mode (screen switches off), when I go back, at the moment I touch the screen, Androkkid crashes
- when this happens with Androkkid in full screen, nothing happens anymore, touching screen just creates "bips", but no actions
- when this happens when task bar is shown, then at least phone stays usable and I even can restart Androkkid

I'm using a Glofiish x610, my phone locks itself automatically after some time, switching screen off, and I have to press a hard key to get screen back on, after I do that, next time I touches screen with Androkkid on it crashes

And I've tried this by installing Androkkid on SD or on internal memory, same results

Too bad a bug, if it was stable then I would have elected Androkkid best WinMo software ever

I'll stay tuned for more releases

teacher1960
22nd October 2009, 09:56 PM
Anyone have a link to an icon set that works well with Androkkid? I have been using some black glass icons from rltoday. They don't work right. Also tried some from the iReflect post.... both have transparency issues.
I'm developing a series of icons meant to cover a lot of areas and apps. They should not have any issues with transparancy. In fact the whole idea is that you should be able to see the nice Androkkid wallpaper through the icons. I've used the app Capsure to make screenshots. Unfortunately the screenshots appear more pixelated than they are on my phone. I do not use the "magic pink" to make them transparent.
I have to use layers and a method I think of as scrubbing to make them completely transparent and it takes a long time. But I'm sending some screenshots to see if I can get response.
I plan to publish them in 128x128, 96x96, 64x64 and 48x48 (free ofcourse)

teacher1960
22nd October 2009, 10:19 PM
By the way I often use graphic art from Wikimedia Commons
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Clear
so a big thanks to them and Everaldo Coelho

kraski
23rd October 2009, 01:00 AM
Yes, now that you have abandoned Real VGA I will work on fixing it for WVGA and QVGA. I have a VGA device (diamond) so I am developing using an emulator and Real VGA was giving me one heck of a time.

I wouldn't get away from RealVGA, yet. ;) I'm still a poster on several of the WM & Treo sites. Thanks to me, there's now an Androkkid thread on Treonauts. And a lot of the Treo Pro folks who are forum users go to RealVGA to gain screen real estate. If I thought it might work on the Tilt 2, I'd be tempted to try the results. :D

top_banana123
23rd October 2009, 11:57 AM
Any ideas as to how I can be aware of missed reminders? If I'm not about and a reminder occurs then the little alrm icon is in the task line of the today screen but as I have turned of the task line I can't see it after Androkkid regains control. Is there a counter similar to the ones for missed call's etc that I could attach to a shortcut/icon to show how many reminders are unacknowleged (ie not clicked dismiss yet). I know the led flashes but it could be charging.

kraski
24th October 2009, 09:23 AM
Found a couple of interesting bugs (or at least changes in behavior) moving from The Treo Pro & WM 6.1 to the Tilt 2 & WM 6.5.

Androkkid seems to be more possessive on my new phone. On the Treo Pro with WM 6.1 clicking the "X" on the taskbar would close Androkkid. On the Tilt 2 with WM 6.5, that gets Androkkid to start closing, then pop back up again (no restart or splash screen). No matter how many times I click the "X", that continues to happen, Using "Exit" on the Androkkid menu is the only way to fully shut it down.

With the taskbar showing, WM 6.1 would allow me to access the start menu by tapping the "Start" on the taskbar. On the Tilt 2, the start menu begins to open, then Androkkid takes over the screen again. I'm suspecting that the start menu is really open, but hidden by Androkkid. I get the same behavior using the "windows" hardware button. It almost seems like it's the same issue as above.

One bug that hasn't changed with phones & WM versions is the one that kills the "windows" hardware button when Androkkid is fullscreen.

propagandax
24th October 2009, 05:32 PM
With the taskbar showing, WM 6.1 would allow me to access the start menu by tapping the "Start" on the taskbar. On the Tilt 2, the start menu begins to open, then Androkkid takes over the screen again. I'm suspecting that the start menu is really open, but hidden by Androkkid. I get the same behavior using the "windows" hardware button. It almost seems like it's the same issue as above.


I have a similar issue on my touch pro running wm6.5.1, I set a shortcut to "minimize" androkkid, when I click the shortcut the today screen begins to display and then Androkkid takes over the screen again.

scilor
24th October 2009, 07:35 PM
Thank you!

alecoddlyiv
24th October 2009, 08:42 PM
I have a similar issue on my touch pro running wm6.5.1, I set a shortcut to "minimize" androkkid, when I click the shortcut the today screen begins to display and then Androkkid takes over the screen again.

I would not consider this a bug, there is an option to exit androkkid when required which i think is sufficient and the behaviour you claim is a bug to me is the program regaining control as it should until exited

kraski
25th October 2009, 05:31 AM
I would not consider this a bug, there is an option to exit androkkid when required which i think is sufficient and the behaviour you claim is a bug to me is the program regaining control as it should until exited

So, if you click the "X" on the taskbar, Androkkid shouldn't close? If you tap the start menu on the taskbar, it should be hidden by Androkkid before you can use it? What works under WM 6.1 shouldn't work under WM 6.5? That's a bug.

kraski
25th October 2009, 08:01 AM
So, if you click the "X" on the taskbar, Androkkid shouldn't close? If you tap the start menu on the taskbar, it should be hidden by Androkkid before you can use it? What works under WM 6.1 shouldn't work under WM 6.5? That's a bug.

Just to clarify something, I love Androkkid, I've donated toward it & I've talked about it in other forums.. WM is not as good as it ought to be & it's tough for a programmer to keep up with a changing OS. Particularly if you don't know all the changes before it comes out. But a behavior change with a new version of the OS is still a bug, even if it's not Simo's fault. Fortunately, knowing Simo's responsiveness, whatever's incorrect will be fixed. Thanks, Simo, for a great app.

wmdirk
25th October 2009, 08:18 AM
So, if you click the "X" on the taskbar, Androkkid shouldn't close? If you tap the start menu on the taskbar, it should be hidden by Androkkid before you can use it? What works under WM 6.1 shouldn't work under WM 6.5? That's a bug.

I've reported the same issue with the minimize.exe app. The minimize via the Androkkid menu functions as it should: the Today screen is displayed. If the minimize.exe could function the same way, it would be possible to add a button to goto the Today screen, which I'm missing right now.

olegsol
26th October 2009, 01:43 PM
What version of Visual Studio should be used to open widgets source from SimoSoft Projects web page? I've tried VS 2005 professional and VB 2008 express editions: projects aren't compatible.

Is there any description how to create widget from scratch?

ssj5trunks
26th October 2009, 04:32 PM
What version of Visual Studio should be used to open widgets source from SimoSoft Projects web page? I've tried VS 2005 professional and VB 2008 express editions: projects aren't compatible.

Is there any description how to create widget from scratch?

I use VB 2008 Pro.

Bye

itesla
26th October 2009, 04:35 PM
Anyone know if the Visual Studio Express edition will work? Are any plugins needed for creating these widgets, or Windows Mobile in general?

ajige
26th October 2009, 05:25 PM
Anyone know if the Visual Studio Express edition will work? Are any plugins needed for creating these widgets, or Windows Mobile in general?

In general Visual Studio Express cannnot be used to develop Windows Mobile application.
But if you are looking for a freeware solution you can use SharpDevelop http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/Download/
That's what I've used to develop all my widgets, and despite it's name, you can program in basic.

olegsol
26th October 2009, 07:14 PM
In general Visual Studio Express cannnot be used to develop Windows Mobile application.
But if you are looking for a freeware solution you can use SharpDevelop http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/Download/
That's what I've used to develop all my widgets, and despite it's name, you can program in basic.

Thank you. Will try this tool.
Actually, I've managed to compile the code by VS 2005 pro with some minor code modifications.

orangekid
26th October 2009, 07:24 PM
I love this app as a UI, here are the points I would like to see improved/added (in order of importance)

1- not use it as an "app" and able to select as today item instead, this will not only increase speed and rid lag, but you can then use HTC task manager to switch tasks instead of having that X on top right to close, or you have to minimize the whole program, then switch task then re maximize it.


2 - change location of "all programs" tab I mentioned this before, if I can select a specific folder with only the shortcuts I want in the "All programs" tab then it cleans it all up and I don't have a bunch of stuff I don't use in there, looks a lot better and more preferable.

3 - fix the contact shortcuts when I add a contact shortcut it adds fine, but when I click on it to call or send sms nothing happens.

4 - add a folder shortcut I know this is "in development" so it will eventually come, the sooner the better :)

5 - more/better widgets! This will just come along with development. The weather widget is ok and will work for now, but I think we all want more of a tf3d or a Hero type of weather widget, or even a hero clock with weather integrated into it. The more widgets added the better!

ccrdr
26th October 2009, 10:35 PM
Love this app too. Thank you! I am having a bug that I haven't noticed in this thread, apologies if I missed it. My webpage links disappear after a setting change or restart. I have a cdma tp with stock alltel rom.
Thanks again, looking forward to watching this grow.

burnlea
27th October 2009, 12:40 AM
Love this app too. Thank you! I am having a bug that I haven't noticed in this thread, apologies if I missed it. My webpage links disappear after a setting change or restart. I have a cdma tp with stock alltel rom.
Thanks again, looking forward to watching this grow.

I had a similar problem with a webpage link to a secure website (https), apparently due to having an '=' in the address. I believe this is going to be fixed in the next release

wmdirk
27th October 2009, 06:30 AM
There's a new tasks widget: if you're interested, go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569566&page=9.

itesla
27th October 2009, 01:50 PM
In general Visual Studio Express cannnot be used to develop Windows Mobile application.
But if you are looking for a freeware solution you can use SharpDevelop http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/Download/
That's what I've used to develop all my widgets, and despite it's name, you can program in basic.

Does this reference similar to what you are doing?
http://c-scope.blogspot.com/search/label/Compact%20Framework

If not could you post a small tutorial/help or reference an existing one? Thanks!!!!!!!!

ajige
27th October 2009, 05:29 PM
Does this reference similar to what you are doing?
http://c-scope.blogspot.com/search/label/Compact%20Framework

If not could you post a small tutorial/help or reference an existing one? Thanks!!!!!!!!
I am not sure what you mean, but here is what I have done:
Install sharpdevelop.
Start new project: there will be options as to what kind of application and programming language you want to use. Make sure you start a project that compiles into a dll, and that you use the required functions (see ssj5trunks's widgets web page in the first post - there is source code for the included widgets there)
Or unzip the source file for the widgets that come with source, and load the solution file into Sharpdevelop. Then you will see how to develop a widget.
As for tutorials, developing a widget is like programming. You can program in Basic so if you want a tutorial for Basic do a google search for embedded visual basic, and there should be lots of links.

reg66
28th October 2009, 02:56 AM
i've started a thread separate to this main one for themes and icons only, saves having to trawl through page after page to find the themes
here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4829217#post4829217)

HTCRyan
29th October 2009, 04:24 AM
Hi, I have a problem with with contacts added to the desktop. When I click on them, the options to call, sms, or mms pop up but when I click on an option, nothing happens. Any ideas? Im using the Longhorn Rom, build 23502 for TF3D on a Sprint HTC Touch Pro. The ROM chef claims his works fine on both the Standard version and the Titanium version.

alecoddlyiv
29th October 2009, 05:50 AM
This issue has already been reported by some but not all users

kraski
29th October 2009, 06:27 AM
Hi, I have a problem with with contacts added to the desktop. When I click on them, the options to call, sms, or mms pop up but when I click on an option, nothing happens. Any ideas? Im using the Longhorn Rom, build 23502 for TF3D on a Sprint HTC Touch Pro. The ROM chef claims his works fine on both the Standard version and the Titanium version.

Simo has acknowledged that there is an issue with the contact menu, at least for some. If you go into settings & shut off contact menus, your contact shortcuts should work fine for calling. But be sure that the phone numbers have only numbers. No separators of any kind, including spaces.

HTCRyan
29th October 2009, 01:24 PM
Simo has acknowledged that there is an issue with the contact menu, at least for some. If you go into settings & shut off contact menus, your contact shortcuts should work fine for calling. But be sure that the phone numbers have only numbers. No separators of any kind, including spaces.
Ok, thank you for your response.

ssj5trunks
29th October 2009, 02:33 PM
Tomorrow i release new version of Androkkid.

No new widgets, but folders and bug fix.

Bye

itesla
29th October 2009, 03:21 PM
Tomorrow i release new version of Androkkid.

No new widgets, but folders and bug fix.

Bye

Yay :-) Thank you for this awesome program. It runs great on my old 200MHz Wizard/8125.

alecoddlyiv
29th October 2009, 04:21 PM
FOLDERS

Wahoooo

Thankyou

burnlea
30th October 2009, 05:30 PM
@ Simo

Bad news. V 1.0.0.0 won't install on top of version 0.8.0.0 and also won't install if version 0.8.0.0 is uninstalled first.
Symptoms: Hangs on splash screen. Only button that does anything is the red phone button with brings up an exception error screen.

Have reverted back to version 0.8.0.0 which work fine

itesla
30th October 2009, 05:33 PM
1.0.0 is out :) For install, I renamed my old androkkid folder to androkkid080, then copied the new androkkid folder (from the zip download) into programfiles and started the androkkid.exe. I didn't try to re-use the setup.ini yet.

Couple questions already...
-can we copy our setup file from 0.8 into the new directory safely?
-how is new icon different than a shortcut?

I'm still getting frequent crashes when I add/edit new objects (I have old Wizard with limited memory).

Thank you again for all of your hard work!

burnlea
30th October 2009, 05:54 PM
@ Simo

Bad news. V 1.0.0.0 won't install on top of version 0.8.0.0 and also won't install if version 0.8.0.0 is uninstalled first.
Symptoms: Hangs on splash screen. Only button that does anything is the red phone button with brings up an exception error screen.

Have reverted back to version 0.8.0.0 which work fine

The above referred to installing from the CAB file. I have now followed itesla's lead and renamed the folder for version 0.8.0.0 and copied the contents of the ZIP file across for version 1.0.0.0. Also copied my settings.ini file across from V0.8.0.0 and all seems to be working so far. Good work Simo!

ssj5trunks
30th October 2009, 06:33 PM
I released new version of Androkkid 1.0.0.

I want to upload a new video.

Stay tuned.

Bye

SpeziAlex
30th October 2009, 08:17 PM
@ Simo

Bad news. V 1.0.0.0 won't install on top of version 0.8.0.0 and also won't install if version 0.8.0.0 is uninstalled first.
Symptoms: Hangs on splash screen. Only button that does anything is the red phone button with brings up an exception error screen.

Have reverted back to version 0.8.0.0 which work fine

Hi,

i had the same problem with the cab download link from simosoftprojects.com. use the zip download link.

the problem is that in the cab file the file folder.png in both themes doesn't exist, but you can only read the error if you have a a message cab for framework 3.5 installed.

burnlea
30th October 2009, 09:59 PM
Version 1.0.0.0 initial observations:

Has anyone worked out how to use the new 'folders' facility? I can create a 'New Folder' icon, I can rename it, but I can't populate it with shortcuts or make it point to an existing folder containing shortcuts. Am I missing something?

Also, the Call/SMS/MMS menu option for contacts in Settings seems to have disappeared in this release.

SpeziAlex
30th October 2009, 10:25 PM
how folder works:

1. add an folder
2. move an shortcut from all programs button on the folder icon
3. the moved shortcut disappears and apperas if you click on the folder

it would be really nice if you can rearrange the order of the icons in an folder.

badticket
30th October 2009, 11:19 PM
Hi,

having XTROM 21870 ROM on my HD and I've run the 1.0.0 cab....(I'am not having the 0.8 version before on the HD)

I can see the sparkeling Logo "androkkoid" .... but this is all... It does not work on my Xanny ROM HD ....

Any reason to this ? (netframework 3.* seems to be on board (cooked in the ROM) but not 3.5 ....)

Greetz

SpeziAlex
30th October 2009, 11:53 PM
@badticket

use the zip version ... in the cab version one file named folder.png in both theme folders is missing ... or copy these file into the right folders.

burnlea
31st October 2009, 12:12 AM
how folder works:

1. add an folder
2. move an shortcut from all programs button on the folder icon
3. the moved shortcut disappears and apperas if you click on the folder

it would be really nice if you can rearrange the order of the icons in an folder.

@ SpeziAlex

Many thanks.

The only way I have found to re-order icons in a folder is to alter the order they appear in settings.ini with a text editor

badticket
31st October 2009, 12:15 AM
@badticket

use the zip version ... in the cab version one file named folder.png in both theme folders is missing ... or copy these file into the right folders.

Thank you... it takes a long time..... but then...finally it works...

Greetz

ssj5trunks
31st October 2009, 12:30 AM
Sorry i miss these 2 files.

I reuploaded correct cab on my site.

I uploaded a demostration video to use Androkkid 1.0.0.

Bye Bye and do some donations for my hard work.

alecoddlyiv
31st October 2009, 01:44 AM
I cant get the cab or zip versions to get past the androkkid splash screen right now. will check back in the morning.

quicksite
31st October 2009, 05:58 AM
This is the interface for a new WindowsXP phone made in China. I saw this today on GIZMODO (http://gizmodo.com/5393584/windows-xp-phone-a-first-look-at-its-touchscreen-interface?skyline=true&s=i):

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=242144&stc=1&d=1256959568

--

HTC's Hero theme transformed people's view of the possibilities for Android OS ...

I just find it interesting to see different touchscreen interface schemes. And the above XP phone interface is not for Windows Mobile, but for fully functional Windows XP OS. So we see more convergence of platforms and devices.

ANDROKKID's FLEXIBILITY:

This is the way I see it: Once simo moved away from ifonz and towards androkkid, the "radical change" was making the whole screen addressable in terms of navigation and display elements. Version 1 of androkkid featured the "look" of android's wallpaper scheme -- which to me was always lifeless and ugly. But HTC's Hero showed how some simple graphical elements could transform the overall view of Android -- which I am sure made Android's makers very happy, since they built something with an open architecture.

Now that we see the Hero Theme for Androkkid, to me this look also demonstrates the greater power available to revamp the entire look of Androkkid... more than just dragging around some widgets on a phone desktop. (Below is my own screenshot of how I've configured Androkkid, with what really boil down to very minor graphical element changes for the bottom 3 tabs.)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=238243&stc=1&d=1255823283


-----
So I am really interested to see how themers and widget makers push androkkid's capabilities even further. And that's why I posted the XP phone interface above -- just for visual inspiration.

Lastly: The "competitor" (at XDA) to Androkkid's widget-based interface scheme is FEWidgets Ultimate 1.0b12 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4275422), screenshots below: My reason for posting it is that it has, ready made, some of the interface navigation scheme of the XP Phone.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=213078&stc=1&d=1249524877 http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=213077&stc=1&d=1249524877


--
Me? I really focus on USING my phone, vs a lot of XDA folks who like trying on all the latest new styles, new touchflo this, or the WindowsMobile 6.5 look. ( My own opinion is that 6.5 is such a wasted use of everyone's time, since MS's Ballmer himself acknowleges WindowsMobile 7.0 should be out -- and THAT could be a game changer. It will for sure have elements of the Zune HD interface, which is following the interface "family" of Windows 7.0 desktop )

My point is: I am looking for "the keeper" interface for WM phones-- because I can't stand the time it takes to convert and reinstall stuff. This is why I am betting on simo and androkkid. And this post is meant to drive more themed executions of Androkkid. (I will post this on the widget thread too, since not everyone sees this thread).

volter2008
31st October 2009, 06:06 AM
good work bro wooow its awesome
keep it up and good luck my friend.

jondalar
31st October 2009, 02:36 PM
Nice. Got it working after redownloading the zip link... cab seems to have been corrupted.

dorio9
31st October 2009, 03:02 PM
im thinkning of getting the samsung code will this work w/o the touch screen?

ssj5trunks
31st October 2009, 03:42 PM
The new cab on my site work now???

BOLTOR91
31st October 2009, 04:29 PM
hello

still doesn't work :mad:

framework probleme , in all rom 6.51 and now on official 6.1 htc rom :confused:

need help !! your work is fantastic :)

bs
chris

top_banana123
31st October 2009, 06:37 PM
The new cab on my site work now???

Nope can only get it to work by installing 0.8 then overwriting with 1.0 files.

How do you change the analog clock faces? You have several but I can't see how to change them.

Also any chance you can use apptodate?

Brilliant though, just gets better and better.

kraski
31st October 2009, 08:29 PM
Simo, great job! Androkkid just keeps getting better & better.

The WM 6.5 start menu still disappears too quickly, but as I look further at the pull-up menu & the settings options in shortcuts.txt, that's becoming more of a nonissue -- you've already supplied alternatives for most or all of what I use regularly.

I do have a couple of questions, though.

First, WM seems to be very good at leaving open as many apps as the OS & hardware will allow. I found the taskmanager link that seems to be the generic "running tasks" window. But I really prefer the graphic HTC version, accessible from the upper right corner when Androkkid is not running. Do you (or does anyone) know how to access it from within Androkkid? And will it stay visible if we can access it?

Second, is there a way to move the entire contents of a page? I set the start page as 1. And I set the number of pages to 7. Somehow, that changed to 8. And, without realizing that had happened, I did a whole contacts page on the last page, so they would be quickly accessible by moving one page away from my start page. If I remove a page, it's the last one, deleting my contacts shortcuts. Interestingly, if I later add a page it brings back that page, restoring my shortcuts. But I don't need 8 pages, maybe not even 7. Or, if adding another page to add content, you might not necessarily want to place it on the last page. So, it would be great if there was a way to move an entire page's contents to another page.

insaint
31st October 2009, 09:57 PM
So Androkkid froze on me too. It got stuck on splash screen, though there is an error message under it, that says something of sorts: "To see the actual error message get .NET 3.5 Framework Messages".

You can recover your androkkid by deleting "settings.ini" and "settings.ini.bak" files from androkkid dir. That would revert settings to their defaults obviously.

It would seam that the error occurs when i use my own modified theme. Changing no other setting resulted in a n error.

Edit: I figured it out. The reason for he error was that my custom theme was modified from a previous release of androkkid. There were 2 files missing from my theme - "TitleFolder.png" and "Folder.png". Once I did add them the error is gone.

dalglisha
31st October 2009, 10:09 PM
Great piece of work, donation on its way.

What is the "type" field for under icon edit?

Is it possible to create an SMS message directly from a contact icon?

BOLTOR91
1st November 2009, 12:28 AM
hello

androkidd ZIP FILE works with benko rom !!

BS
FANTAORANGE

Ullmz469
1st November 2009, 02:22 AM
ssj5trunks,

Are there parameters that need to be send to get a minimize shortcut to work?

Thanks in advance

backlashsid
1st November 2009, 05:03 AM
if the animation and transitions....get way smoother...and all the windows settings and programs come to one place.......its gonna be......WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWW !!! :cool::D


ankdrokkid...rocks !!! simo !! rocks......!!!

jilaxzone
1st November 2009, 05:31 AM
hi,
Androkkid is cool man...
keep up your good work^^
waiting 4 more widget to come, especially like widget on real android running on HTC Hero.

for those who unable to load Androkkid version 1.0.0.0,
try using ZIP version instead of the CAB version.
or after you install the CAB version, replace them with ZIP version.
works great on my Blue Angel installed on memory card.

ero69
1st November 2009, 06:02 AM
CAB file still not working.

Just downloaded and installed it. The only file missing on my installation over v0.8 was TitleFolder.jpg.

djdrag0n
1st November 2009, 11:18 AM
few things...
in htc tytnII (alias Kaiser) with wm6.1 when trying to add a contact, it crashes.
it's a little bit slower than version 0.8.0...
But still one of the best thing I've ever tested on my kaiser :-)

Can you add a "support" for png transparencies? because with that purple thing I'm too limited in making themes :P

ssj5trunks
1st November 2009, 11:23 AM
I reuploaded now the new cab, sorry but i've missing these files, now all files are in.

Test and give me feedbacks.

Bye

krazyme
1st November 2009, 07:43 PM
I've tried latest cab, but no success, it stays all the time on splash screen until I press the cross

Works by installing 0.8.0 cab and overwritting with 1.0.0 files from zip

Seems a resource is left opened, because :
- uninstall Androkkid
- install 1.0.0 cab
- start (fails)
- try t overwrite 1.0.0 by 1.0.0 zip files -> fails
- reset phone
- uninstall 1.0.0
- install 0.8.0 cab
- start 0.8.0 OK
- reset phone (maybe useless, just to be safe)
- overwrite 0.8.0 by 1.0.0
- start 1.0.0 OK

I'm just starting tests, I'll reply in a few to let you know if bug after eco-entering disappeared

[EDIT] Just tried : Androkkid still leaves (or crashes) after leaving eco mode and touching screen, exactly like 0.8.0

djdrag0n
1st November 2009, 08:06 PM
also, when I move links into a folder and I reboot Androkkid, the links disappears from inside the folder :-(

burnlea
1st November 2009, 08:46 PM
few things...
in htc tytnII (alias Kaiser) with wm6.1 when trying to add a contact, it crashes.
it's a little bit slower than version 0.8.0...
But still one of the best thing I've ever tested on my kaiser :-)


I don't have that problem on my o2 XDA Stellar (HTC TYTN II clone) running WM6.1. Make sure the Contact No. field only has numbers in it. i.e no spaces, punctuation etc.

qanda6900
1st November 2009, 09:21 PM
I have been using IFonz2 for quite awhile and love it, so I tried Androkkid on my HTC Touch Vogue(6900), with WM 6.1. Installation to the device went fine. Before starting Androkkid, I shut down IFonz2. When Androkidd was started, it hung on the Androkkid splash screen and would not go any further. I closed the app (X), and an error message was displayed: "An unexpected error occurred in Androkkid.exe. Details page: "File not found exception". Since I was starting the app using the .exe file, what file is actually missing? I had downloaded the zip/cab file directly from the simosoftprojectts site.

Also, when the app is removed via Add/Remove programs, not all files are removed from the Androkkid directory. Cache, Widgets and settings. ini remained. I simply deleted the directory.

Is there any reason why it would not work properly on my device. Can you help me?

magicozero
1st November 2009, 11:52 PM
Thank you for your work is possible add dialer, incall menu and possibility to translate?
For me hope is the best application.

ssj5trunks
2nd November 2009, 08:19 AM
I have been using IFonz2 for quite awhile and love it, so I tried Androkkid on my HTC Touch Vogue(6900), with WM 6.1. Installation to the device went fine. Before starting Androkkid, I shut down IFonz2. When Androkidd was started, it hung on the Androkkid splash screen and would not go any further. I closed the app (X), and an error message was displayed: "An unexpected error occurred in Androkkid.exe. Details page: "File not found exception". Since I was starting the app using the .exe file, what file is actually missing? I had downloaded the zip/cab file directly from the simosoftprojectts site.

Also, when the app is removed via Add/Remove programs, not all files are removed from the Androkkid directory. Cache, Widgets and settings. ini remained. I simply deleted the directory.

Is there any reason why it would not work properly on my device. Can you help me?

Which file is missed now????
I think i've added all files to cab installation.

Tell me.

Bye

alecoddlyiv
2nd November 2009, 09:19 AM
Had a pretty catastr0phic fail last night 1ith 1.0

i was trying to add an icon and change it to be a folder so I could have a different icon on the desktop.

the application crashed and locked up the phone on restarting all my setup had disappeared. closed down connected to my pc and checked the backup file and this had been overwritten with a blank too.

so i suppose the request for the next release is can we please modify the folder icon.

thanks

ssj5trunks
2nd November 2009, 10:05 AM
Had a pretty catastr0phic fail last night 1ith 1.0

i was trying to add an icon and change it to be a folder so I could have a different icon on the desktop.

the application crashed and locked up the phone on restarting all my setup had disappeared. closed down connected to my pc and checked the backup file and this had been overwritten with a blank too.

so i suppose the request for the next release is can we please modify the folder icon.

thanks

If you make a theme you can change the folder image, but all folders have the same image, like Android, you cant change it.
Bye

qanda6900
2nd November 2009, 03:55 PM
Which file is missed now????
I think i've added all files to cab installation.

Tell me.

Bye

I don't know. The Error Message does not specifically state which file it is looking for. Don't know how I can help you here, but I see "krazyme" above had the same problem. Maybe krazyme might know. :confused:

altair1
2nd November 2009, 03:57 PM
Hi, why I receive error on Phone icon when I miss call:
\\storage card\program files\androkkid\utils\missed calls.exe not exist!

Anybody have the same problem ?

qanda6900
2nd November 2009, 04:00 PM
.....the application crashed and locked up the phone

I think you mean "froze" the phone. This can happen with other programs as well. If it locked up your phone, then your in big trouble and a reset will not help.

Try to differentiate so as not to alarm other users who might wish to try the program. I don't mind a program that may freeze the device, but fear one that would lock it up! :p

ssj5trunks
2nd November 2009, 04:24 PM
Hi, why I receive error on Phone icon when I miss call:
\\storage card\program files\androkkid\utils\missed calls.exe not exist!

Anybody have the same problem ?

Install androkkid in internal phone memory and not in storage card and retest it.

Bye

taurusmillenium
2nd November 2009, 04:36 PM
Hi there,

have been using the 0.8.0 version for a while now, but experienced a lot of errors on my omnia i900 (i know there are compatibility issues, but most of the time it worked...)

I hoped these errors would've been fixed in the newest version, but only after a couple of minutes playing, it crashed..
Usually it works, but when i try to change the theme, add widgets, folders, etc... or even when using opera, all of a sudden, opera closes, taking androkkid with it...
Attached is a crash dump when i tried to edit a folder... Hope you can do something with it...
Btw: the program is installed in internal memory and using a custom rom

Greetings,

taurus

ssj5trunks
2nd November 2009, 04:52 PM
Hi there,

have been using the 0.8.0 version for a while now, but experienced a lot of errors on my omnia i900 (i know there are compatibility issues, but most of the time it worked...)

I hoped these errors would've been fixed in the newest version, but only after a couple of minutes playing, it crashed..
Usually it works, but when i try to change the theme, add widgets, folders, etc... or even when using opera, all of a sudden, opera closes, taking androkkid with it...
Attached is a crash dump when i tried to edit a folder... Hope you can do something with it...
Btw: the program is installed in internal memory and using a custom rom

Greetings,

taurus

This is a widget error i think, you edit an icon?

taurusmillenium
2nd November 2009, 05:25 PM
This is a widget error i think, you edit an icon?
I was editing a folder where i had put in some games. After a couple of restarting the app and rebooting the omnia, it worked (at the moment, i can't edit another folder, nor the one I already was able to edit)

Now i am already having trouble opening the program, here are the screens...

greets

qanda6900
2nd November 2009, 06:26 PM
Hi, why I receive error on Phone icon when I miss call:
\\storage card\program files\androkkid\utils\missed calls.exe not exist!

Anybody have the same problem ?

This normally means that the icon does not point to the .exe file.
Hold on the icon until you see the Edit or soft key lower left and drag the icon onto it.

Look at FILE to see where the "File" is pointing. If it is not showing the .exe file, you will need to browse for the file cprog.exe in Windows directory. Then make sure that the Type is set to PHONE.

Had similar problem with IFONZ and this fixed it.

Good luck

chumpster
2nd November 2009, 06:29 PM
I am not sure if I am the only one having this issue, but the Next Appointment widget seems to be acting funny.

In the United States we just changed our clock back one hour. For some reason the Next Appointment widget has all my appointment one hour early. Example: An appointment I have scheduled at 10am on the widget says 9am.

My calendar entry is correct. I don't know why. By the way, this is a re-occurring entry; perhaps it is still stuck in day-light savings time?

By the way, this is a GREAT app.

ajige
2nd November 2009, 08:30 PM
I am not sure if I am the only one having this issue, but the Next Appointment widget seems to be acting funny.

In the United States we just changed our clock back one hour. For some reason the Next Appointment widget has all my appointment one hour early. Example: An appointment I have scheduled at 10am on the widget says 9am.

My calendar entry is correct. I don't know why. By the way, this is a re-occurring entry; perhaps it is still stuck in day-light savings time?

By the way, this is a GREAT app.

It can be difficult to get the timezones right, throw in daylight savings, and it can be a nightmare. We had some serious problems when developing the iAgenda program, but were finally able to resolve it. It was really helpful that the two main developers where in different timezones.
I'll try and look at it, or we could wait for the new agenda widget to be finished?

chumpster
2nd November 2009, 08:47 PM
I am not sure if I am the only one having this issue, but the Next Appointment widget seems to be acting funny.

In the United States we just changed our clock back one hour. For some reason the Next Appointment widget has all my appointment one hour early. Example: An appointment I have scheduled at 10am on the widget says 9am.

My calendar entry is correct. I don't know why. By the way, this is a re-occurring entry; perhaps it is still stuck in day-light savings time?

By the way, this is a GREAT app.

Never mind about this issue. I fixed it by totally exiting Androkkid and restarting it. Soft start did not work (probably because Androkkid executes on startup). But exiting and restarting did the trick.

As for an agenda widget, I am really looking forward to that. I am using an old app called TodayAgenda that sit on top of the default Windows Today screen and it is the most important app I use. The best thing about Androkkid is that I can minimize it and still have the window's today screen with the TodayAgenda running.

Touchflo wipes out the today screen and I lose my agenda; so I don't use it at all. Also to me, the Androkkid interface is way better.

If agenda widget works well, then I might not need the default today screen ever again.

ajige
2nd November 2009, 08:50 PM
The best thing about Androkkid is that I can minimize it and still have the window's today screen with the TodayAgenda running.

How do you manage that? I tried minimizing Androkkid in order to show weather panel on my today screen, but it showed only for a second, then Androkkid maximized.

burnlea
2nd November 2009, 09:09 PM
How do you manage that? I tried minimizing Androkkid in order to show weather panel on my today screen, but it showed only for a second, then Androkkid maximized.

I find if you use minimize.exe in the Utils folder Androkkid immediately re-maximises (as with iFonz), but if you use the minimize option on the bottom left pop-up menu, it stays minimised.

chumpster
2nd November 2009, 09:28 PM
How do you manage that? I tried minimizing Androkkid in order to show weather panel on my today screen, but it showed only for a second, then Androkkid maximized.

In order to minimize, I don't use the x on the top right corner. I use the pull up menu from the lower left and minimize from there. It lets me get my today screen and weather panel.

One thing that I may be different is that I did not install the cab. I am using the zip file. I am not sure if that makes difference.

itesla
2nd November 2009, 10:19 PM
Latest main page screen shot...

qanda6900
2nd November 2009, 10:27 PM
ssj5trunks

Did you figure out what file was missing from the cab that gave me the error message when trying to start Androkkid?

There was never an answer posted for this problem?

May I recommend that if you fix the cab file, or modify the cab, you change the version number so users can see it is a new file.

Waiting for your answer.

Thanks
QnA :confused::confused::confused::confused:

ajige
2nd November 2009, 10:28 PM
I find if you use minimize.exe in the Utils folder Androkkid immediately re-maximises (as with iFonz), but if you use the minimize option on the bottom left pop-up menu, it stays minimised.

In order to minimize, I don't use the x on the top right corner. I use the pull up menu from the lower left and minimize from there. It lets me get my today screen and weather panel.

Thank you both! It works when there are no other programs running, but if there is any other program running, minimizing Androkkid, just shows the other program, not the today screen. Any workaround that?

ssj5trunks
3rd November 2009, 08:25 AM
The actual cab in my site is last and correct with all missing file.
Test it.

Bye

djdrag0n
3rd November 2009, 11:37 AM
Latest main page screen shot...

is that a volume setting widget in the upper right corner?!?

jaguaralani
3rd November 2009, 03:08 PM
Thanx for your wonderful work !

Notes
------

I am on miri Rev 12

the cab did not work, but I used the copy paste method then it worked BUT
it takes a very long time to start ( up to 5 min sometimes ! ), staying on the first loading page ( ANDROKKID ), then starts and works flawlessly !

alecoddlyiv
3rd November 2009, 03:13 PM
I have found this version takes longer to start as well

itesla
3rd November 2009, 04:20 PM
is that a volume setting widget in the upper right corner?!?

I was wondering if anyone would ask.... it is just a shortcut to the wisvol.exe program which pops up a volume slide similar to WM5.

qanda6900
3rd November 2009, 07:35 PM
Sorry to say, that after finally getting Androkkid to load, it is not as stable as IFONZ.
1. It takes to long to load initially, and takes just as long if you make changes then SAVE.
2. The icons are not as clear or sharp as in IFONZ, and I cannot fit as many on the screen in Hero mode as I do in IFONZ. Making the icons smaller makes the names almost unreadable.
3. Also, if I am creating a new shortcut and do a Windows directory search for the link I want, it takes so long that the device enters sleep mode. If I wake it up, Androkkid shuts down and freezes the phone.
4. Some shortcuts created off the Programs menu due not work, or do not transfer the icon image.
5. Another querk is if I am not careful with Add Programs icon, the Cube pops up. This has also happened when scrolling up in Programs.

Maybe Androkkidd has more bells and whistles than does IFONZ, and it is easier to manipulate icons around from page to page, but truthfully, I'm staying with IFONZ. Androkkidd doesn't seem to like the HTC Touch 6900 as much as other devices which may be the reason it is not working as well. :(

It is clear the developer put in a lot of time and effort, and tried to incorporate many innovative concepts, but Androkkid needs some more polish.

QnA

er5maulana
4th November 2009, 11:47 AM
is this work with WM 6.5
mine...errorrrr...
:mad:

ssj5trunks
4th November 2009, 02:53 PM
is this work with WM 6.5
mine...errorrrr...
:mad:

If you buy a Win 6.5 device for me i can modify the source code for work correctly in this Operating System.
:)

Bye

kraski
4th November 2009, 06:29 PM
is this work with WM 6.5
mine...errorrrr...
:mad:

Which version did you install?? Both .080 & 1.0 work with WM 6.5. If you installed 1.0 from cab, your error may be missing files in the cab. If you grab the copy/folder version, just copy it over the previous installation. That should ensure you have all the files. The latest cab file at Simo's site is supposed to have all the files, too. So, you could just use that & "upgrade".

surrealbliss
4th November 2009, 11:04 PM
ssj5trunks i have a question... when I initially loaded this app the first time it had a screen lock that I had to drag down to the bottom to unlock the screen...

now that I have everything nicely customized I can't seem to figure out how to access and use the screen lock. Is there a shortcut to lock the screen? I attempted to use a shortcut to the windows screen lock, thinking that you may have modified it for androkkid, but that was unsuccessful.

Any help will be appreciated.. thanks for a great application!

wmdirk
4th November 2009, 11:45 PM
There's a new calendar widget available. If you're interested, go to the widgets thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4879609#post4879609).

willysnut
5th November 2009, 06:56 PM
Androkkid 1.0 installed and ran great until I rebooted the PDA. It is an iPAQ 211 with Win Mobile 6.1. The error varies each time you try and run it. The one I get the most is an out of memory error. I have 140 MB of free storage & 87 MB of free program memory. The program is running from an 8 Gig SD card.

The error is OutOfMemoryException at Microsoft.AGL.Common.MISC.HandleAr(PAL_ERROR ar) at System.Drawing.Bitmap._InitFromMemoryStream(Memory Stream mstream) at System.Drawing.Bitmap..ctor(String filename) at Androkkid.Start.LoadVariables().

I have uninstalled Androkkid and reinstalled it and get the same error. I then uninstalled it and .NET 3.5 and reinstalled .NET then Androkkid and still get the same error.

This is a product that, if it worked, I would purchase.

Rob

taospirit
5th November 2009, 07:54 PM
hello , Androkkid UI is very cool and i have tried some , i think it's the best (for me). Easy to customize. But i have a little pb and no answer yet, why i can't minimize Androkkid? Well in fact when i clic minimize Ui desappear and after 1 sec display again... any suggestions or solutions? thanks

klemens23
5th November 2009, 08:20 PM
Hello, I use androkkid on my omnia i900. I have installed the cab version but the demonstration is very diffuse, like pixels.

Any ideas?

chumpster
5th November 2009, 08:29 PM
hello , Androkkid UI is very cool and i have tried some , i think it's the best (for me). Easy to customize. But i have a little pb and no answer yet, why i can't minimize Androkkid? Well in fact when i clic minimize Ui desappear and after 1 sec display again... any suggestions or solutions? thanks

See post #645 on this thread. Basically, if you use the pull up menu on the bottom left corner, there is an option to minimize. That bottom works. Minimize.exe or the 'x' on the top right corner does not work.

DE_GREAT
5th November 2009, 09:49 PM
Hi,

I have been testing this on a HP Data Messenger, and I really like it. Is there a widget or someway to get the (missed calls /new message) type of notification on the home page.

DE_GREAT
5th November 2009, 10:03 PM
Nevermind.... I figured it out. For everyone else... If you edit the Icon and tell it what it is it (type) It will show the notification.

DE_GREAT
5th November 2009, 10:47 PM
Like I have said.... I have been testing this and I must say good work. It is one of the best interfaces that I have seen. With that said there are some badly needed widgets. For example a Contact quick dial with pictures would be great. The agenda widget (while a great start) would be better with out the calendar icons. If I knew how to do it I would help, but unfortunately programing just is not my forte. Keep up the good work, and widget artists do your thing. This interface needs another few killer widgets , and the users will flock to this interface.

wmdirk
5th November 2009, 11:18 PM
Like I have said.... I have been testing this and I must say good work. It is one of the best interfaces that I have seen. With that said there are some badly needed widgets. For example a Contact quick dial with pictures would be great. The agenda widget (while a great start) would be better with out the calendar icons. If I knew how to do it I would help, but unfortunately programing just is not my forte. Keep up the good work, and widget artists do your thing. This interface needs another few killer widgets , and the users will flock to this interface.

The agenda widget is skinnable (a few newer (not available) skins can be previewed on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569566&page=14. And I'll provide the means to ommit the icons in the settings file of the new version for those who don't like having the shortcuts to a new message, refresh or the calendar app.

lomo2002
5th November 2009, 11:24 PM
hi,

thanks for good application. I added a contact (69007656p*898987977), but androkkid says unknown number. I do not have problem with dialing the contact through tachi or wm 6.1 dialer. Any solution for that?

thedicemaster
6th November 2009, 12:00 AM
got an error when starting androkkid 1.0.0 on wm6.5.1
0.8.0 works fine
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/7076/screen01s.png

alecoddlyiv
6th November 2009, 02:49 AM
hi,

thanks for good application. I added a contact (69007656p*898987977), but androkkid says unknown number. I do not have problem with dialing the contact through tachi or wm 6.1 dialer. Any solution for that?

the contact number has to be ALL digits with no spaces to work

alecoddlyiv
6th November 2009, 02:51 AM
got an error when starting androkkid 1.0.0 on wm6.5.1
0.8.0 works fine
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/7076/screen01s.png

try to save your settings.ini and unistall version 0.8 then delete the folder it leaves behind before installing 1.0.

if that works you can then try copying your settings.ini back in.

krazyme
6th November 2009, 09:22 AM
got an error when starting androkkid 1.0.0 on wm6.5.1
0.8.0 works fine
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/7076/screen01s.png

In this case, I've installed 0.8.0, then unziped 1.0.0 into 0.8.0 folder, and it worked

klemens23
6th November 2009, 11:41 AM
Does it work on i900 Omnia?

harkrug
6th November 2009, 12:04 PM
Now work in landscape mode?

luilly
6th November 2009, 12:13 PM
Amazing!!

Can anyone send me the code for icon missed calls and icon imagen set for mail, sms, contacts, calendar and missed call??

Thank you all!!

DE_GREAT
6th November 2009, 02:59 PM
Amazing!!

Can anyone send me the code for icon missed calls and icon imagen set for mail, sms, contacts, calendar and missed call??

Thank you all!!



If you go to all programs and select the program that you want (Example: Phone) it will show up on your desktop. Afterwards hold the icon down for a second and you will see that an edit or delete softkeys pop up. Drag the icon to the edit softkey and change the type from normal to whatever it is (Example: Phone) the notifications will then show with numbers on the icon, if there is something to notify. Just do that with whatever it is that you want.

DE_GREAT
6th November 2009, 03:03 PM
Now work in landscape mode?


Kinda,(it does not crash and the buttons and icons work, but it does not look right) but I am sure that he is working on it. You gotta get the one mode working at 100% before you move on to the extras, and to be honest.....do we really need the Home screen to work in landscape mode. The typing application ...yes, but the home screen ....IMHO I don't think so.

DE_GREAT
6th November 2009, 03:09 PM
The agenda widget is skinnable (a few newer (not available) skins can be previewed on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569566&page=14. And I'll provide the means to ommit the icons in the settings file of the new version for those who don't like having the shortcuts to a new message, refresh or the calendar app.



I saw that....it looks great. I can't wait to test it as soon as it is available.

luilly
6th November 2009, 05:27 PM
If you go to all programs and select the program that you want (Example: Phone) it will show up on your desktop. Afterwards hold the icon down for a second and you will see that an edit or delete softkeys pop up. Drag the icon to the edit softkey and change the type from normal to whatever it is (Example: Phone) the notifications will then show with numbers on the icon, if there is something to notify. Just do that with whatever it is that you want.


Thanks, folk. Partially is that i need, but, my icons aren't descriptive. I wish change icons of cache folder by icons like snapshots of begining this thread.

Thanks.

taospirit
6th November 2009, 05:57 PM
any One know how to make semi transparent icon (like glass) i try but doesn't work?

willysnut
6th November 2009, 08:33 PM
Androkkid 1.0 installed and ran great until I rebooted the PDA. It is an iPAQ 211 with Win Mobile 6.1. The error varies each time you try and run it. The one I get the most is an out of memory error. I have 140 MB of free storage & 87 MB of free program memory. The program is running from an 8 Gig SD card.

The error is OutOfMemoryException at Microsoft.AGL.Common.MISC.HandleAr(PAL_ERROR ar) at System.Drawing.Bitmap._InitFromMemoryStream(Memory Stream mstream) at System.Drawing.Bitmap..ctor(String filename) at Androkkid.Start.LoadVariables().

I have uninstalled Androkkid and reinstalled it and get the same error. I then uninstalled it and .NET 3.5 and reinstalled .NET then Androkkid and still get the same error.

This is a product that, if it worked, I would purchase.

Rob

This is now working without any errors. I uninstalled Androkkid and then installed it again but on the device, not on the SD card. Then it ran just fine with no error.

Rob

surrealbliss
7th November 2009, 12:33 AM
anyone know how to access the androkkid screen lock feature?

I saw it the first time I ever loaded androkkid.. but I havent ever seen it since and I don't know why. ;(

wmdirk
7th November 2009, 12:40 AM
I saw that....it looks great. I can't wait to test it as soon as it is available.

There's an new version of the WMD-Agenda widget available: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4879609&postcount=125.

Showtime7
8th November 2009, 12:14 AM
Awesome app, have been using on and off with my Touch Pro 2 and am really pleased with the latest release. Wanted to share the android font with everyone in case you've had trouble finding it. Just place it in "\Windows\Fonts" folder and it will show in your Androkkid settings. Keep up the great work bro!

diepthao
8th November 2009, 04:23 AM
it will be better with weather widget
many thanks

surrealbliss
8th November 2009, 03:07 PM
Still trying to figure out how to use the screen lock feature. As I have said in my other posts... I saw this feature the first time I loaded Androkkid but I haven't been able to figure out how to use it since then... Does anyone know?

It seems like every other question I've had has been answered here but nobody ever answers this one. ;(

burnlea
8th November 2009, 03:10 PM
Still trying to figure out how to use the screen lock feature. As I have said in my other posts... I saw this feature the first time I loaded Androkkid but I haven't been able to figure out how to use it since then... Does anyone know?

It seems like every other question I've had has been answered here but nobody ever answers this one. ;(

If there is a screenlock feature in Androkkid, I haven't found it yet. Can you describe exactly what you saw?

neely30188
8th November 2009, 04:18 PM
What am I missing here?

I create a folder widget and drag to edit to select the folder. I tap ">" and select the folder from the tree but there is no "select" or "ok" button on the tree screen to tag it as the one I want to use. Only "up" and "cancel" buttons. If I try to type the folder location in manually I just get a "ding sound".

Double taping the folder, opens the folder in the tree page, it does not select the folder for the widget.

I am loving this program!!

burnlea
8th November 2009, 04:36 PM
What am I missing here?
I create a folder widget and drag to edit to select the folder. I tap ">" and select the folder from the tree but there is no "select" or "ok" button on the tree screen to tag it as the one I want to use. Only "up" and "cancel" buttons. If I try to type the folder location in manually I just get a "ding sound".

I am loving this program!!

It's not possible to 'point' a folder icon at an existing folder, even though the edit facility appears to give that flexibility. You can only create new folders into which you can drag and drop shortcuts.

teacher1960
8th November 2009, 04:46 PM
never heard of a screen lock feature in androkkid...

neely30188
8th November 2009, 05:22 PM
I was playing with the folder widget and double tapped a file instead of a folder then androkkid crashed.(my bad)
Now all 5 pages that I spent a lot of time setting up are blank. I went to the backup .ini file but still blank pages.
The .ini file looks good, not corrupted, but no joy. Are the page layouts stored in the .ini file or else where.

Any help would be appreciated!

teacher1960
8th November 2009, 06:58 PM
If you reinstall Androkkid and then transfers the old ini file you should be alright. Unless you have added extra icons or wallpapers into the main folder in which case you also have to transfer these. You should always take a copy of your install when it is working fine, like that you can be up and running again in a matter of seconds

alecoddlyiv
8th November 2009, 08:44 PM
I was playing with the folder widget and double tapped a file instead of a folder then androkkid crashed.(my bad)
Now all 5 pages that I spent a lot of time setting up are blank. I went to the backup .ini file but still blank pages.
The .ini file looks good, not corrupted, but no joy. Are the page layouts stored in the .ini file or else where.

Any help would be appreciated!


I warned about this shorty after the release of 1.0

neely30188
9th November 2009, 05:30 AM
Looks like someone is trying to copy your idea.
Check it out

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-touch-one.html

ajige
9th November 2009, 04:19 PM
Looks like someone is trying to copy your idea.
Check it out

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-touch-one.html

Yes, I tried it, but compare the memory usage. TouchOne uses a lot more of memory than Androkkid.

kraski
9th November 2009, 05:05 PM
Yes, I tried it, but compare the memory usage. TouchOne uses a lot more of memory than Androkkid.

And, according to the listing, won't do WVGA, yet. So, it won't look right on all the variations of the Touch Diamond 2 or Touch Pro 2. Androkkid is probably one of the most usable UIs I've tried.

surrealbliss
9th November 2009, 07:52 PM
If there is a screenlock feature in Androkkid, I haven't found it yet. Can you describe exactly what you saw?


it was quite similar to the bottom menu, but it was up about 30% of the way up my screen, both buttons on either side had arrows pointing down and the word said "locked" or something to that effect... I dragged it down and then it went away and Ive never seen it again...

burnlea
9th November 2009, 08:47 PM
it was quite similar to the bottom menu, but it was up about 30% of the way up my screen, both buttons on either side had arrows pointing down and the word said "locked" or something to that effect... I dragged it down and then it went away and Ive never seen it again...

That sounds quite specific. Has Simo built something in that he hasn't told us about yet?

longice
9th November 2009, 11:37 PM
Nice GUI, but it takes WAY too long time to boot. And a major issue; cannot change to my own wallpaper without the app crashing. And now I can't even start the app because my own wallpaper is selected! Haha... Walllpaper from Internal Storage, BTW.

surrealbliss
10th November 2009, 04:20 AM
That sounds quite specific. Has Simo built something in that he hasn't told us about yet?

Its really upsetting to me that I seem to be the only person that ever saw this... Maybe I'll clear all Androkkid stuff from my phone and install .8 again and see if it happens again.

By the way... I'm using an HTC Touch running Win 6.1. I don't know if that has anything to do with it, but if I figure out a way to see it again I'll definitely screen capture it for you all.

dagosjt
10th November 2009, 12:10 PM
Crash for me, it builds 419 icons in cache then close itself first time. If I retry doesn't start at all with a Out of Memory error.
I have about 600 icon programs...

tf2d
10th November 2009, 07:35 PM
When I try I add a shortcut and I get to the directory where the window folder is and I try to select it, my Diamond acts like its opening windows but never does..I have left it alone for a few minutes; I come back and it still is trying to open windows..

Any suggestions??

surrealbliss
10th November 2009, 07:48 PM
When I try I add a shortcut and I get to the directory where the window folder is and I try to select it, my Diamond acts like its opening windows but never does..I have left it alone for a few minutes; I come back and it still is trying to open windows..

Any suggestions??

if you know the exact location of the program it would probably be easier to create shortcuts on your computer desktop as they explained earlier (I'll edit this with a link as soon as I find it).. then after you create it connect your phone and put the .lnk file on your device and then create a shortcut pointing to the .lnk file

anyways... the post that I'm looking for will tell you in a lot more detail.

I found it, here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4757928&postcount=515

this worked for me... hopefully you'll be able to make it work for you too. ;)

ajige
10th November 2009, 08:21 PM
I'm working on my weather widget, and am having some problems.
It's configurable so that you can show various number of days or just an icon. When you click on it, it will show a panel with details. I also like to be able to show more than one city, but I have it so that you add 2 widgets then. And that's were the problem is.
Example: I add one widget (city) on the top of the screen, and the next further below. When I click on the upper widget, so I can see the detailed information, the bottom widget is drawn on top of the panel. Actually, any widget that has been added after the weather widget, will paint on top of the panel.
Anyone knows how I can get around that?

jimski
10th November 2009, 09:09 PM
Crash for me, it builds 419 icons in cache then close itself first time. If I retry doesn't start at all with a Out of Memory error.
I have about 600 icon programs...

600 program icons :eek:. And I thought I had a lot with 248. Wow!

thedicemaster
10th November 2009, 11:16 PM
a little request: could you make it possible to make the program list transparent just like all other parts of androkkid?
i'm working on a skin which relies a lot on transparent parts, and the program list is the only thing i'm not happy with yet.

lylcl
11th November 2009, 01:09 PM
Very nice program - I love it!
But i get 2 or 3 little problems...
- after reading e-mails and returning to androkkid it freezes - the keyboardsymbol is at the bottom and on top the windows bar is visible (deaktivated in the androkkid-settings).
- Adding a folder like /windows/startmenu/settings is not possible (?)
- the start of androkkid takes such a looooong time - yes i know, that you know that, but is there no way to make this a little bit faster?

alecoddlyiv
11th November 2009, 02:02 PM
Agree that access to the settings similar to the access of programs is a big want as is an improvement in the access time following the odd crash testing new widgets ;)

paul8lam
11th November 2009, 02:38 PM
that's terrifying good. i can't but to make some little donation... keep on !!

PL

dagosjt
11th November 2009, 02:57 PM
600 program icons :eek:. And I thought I had a lot with 248. Wow!

602 to be exact :D

I bring with me programs since 2004 originally for Windows 2003 but still working on new systems :) Of course I use most of them rarely, but you know, I'm sure if I cancel some I'll need it the day after :D

itesla
11th November 2009, 06:50 PM
How is memory use for you all? With Androkkid (v 0.8.0) running I am at 5.25MB Free Program Memory. After killing Androkkid, jumps to to 14.18MB. That's about 9MB. I have about 130 program icons cached, does that matter?

Edit: Trying 1.0 again, I see similar memory usage... 8MB

Also, there are a bunch of control panel shortcuts referenced in the first post. Anyone know how to jump to the main control panel "Personal" tab (not one of the settings)?

thedicemaster
11th November 2009, 07:09 PM
1688K(1.6MB) RAM used by androkkid here

for a shortcut to settings, use the included settings.exe(in the androkkid\utils folder) or make a shortcut to the exe in the attached zip(looks better on wm 6.5.1 but appears to be made for QVGA)

for shortcuts to folders just grab a shortcut to the file explorer and add the location of the folder you want to link to in the parameters field(only works for actual folders, so linking to the settings folder in the start menu gives you an empty folder)

timed here, androkkid takes 5 seconds to start from the moment i tap the androkkid shortcut(so fast it often skips the androkkid loading screen)
running WM6.5.1 (eugenia rom 1.01 full for HTC diamond)

itesla
11th November 2009, 08:44 PM
1688K(1.6MB) RAM used by androkkid here
for a shortcut to settings, use the included settings.exe(in the androkkid\utils folder) or
...
timed here, androkkid takes 5 seconds to start from the moment i tap the androkkid shortcut(so fast it often skips the androkkid loading screen)
running WM6.5.1 (eugenia rom 1.01 full for HTC diamond)

That's what that is for... I added a shortcut to the included utils\settings.exe added to my startmenu so it automatically appears in the Androkkid program list. Thanks!

I like to roll with the stock WM5 on my antique 200MHz Wizard ;-) It takes about 58 seconds from tap to seeing my Androkkid setup!

thedicemaster
11th November 2009, 10:55 PM
for those who use wm 6.5.1 i really do recommend the control panel.exe i just attached.
settings.exe has the layout completely hardcoded, so it doesn't fit with some themes and it ignores 4-icons-in-a-row tweaks
control panel.exe still ignores some stuff, but atleast it still follows main theme behaviour(so on 6.5.1 it has the new tab design) and only seeing the top-left ¼ of the icons also gives a nice effect

chumpster
12th November 2009, 07:46 AM
for those who use wm 6.5.1 i really do recommend the control panel.exe i just attached.
settings.exe has the layout completely hardcoded, so it doesn't fit with some themes and it ignores 4-icons-in-a-row tweaks
control panel.exe still ignores some stuff, but atleast it still follows main theme behaviour(so on 6.5.1 it has the new tab design) and only seeing the top-left ¼ of the icons also gives a nice effect

Thanks!!! I've been looking for something like this for a long time. I've used settings.exe, and you are absolutely right, it ignores the 4-icons-in-a-row tweak. It works, but it is just not aesthetically pleasing. Thank you so much for this.

By the way, I am using folderview.exe to display my program directory. It has the same problem with ignoring the 4-icons-in-a-row tweak. Do you have or know of a exe file that can display the program folder without the layout hardcoded?

Thanks again.

quicksite
12th November 2009, 08:01 AM
Agree that access to the settings similar to the access of programs is a big want as is an improvement in the access time following the odd crash testing new widgets ;)

Do you mean access to ANDROKKID Settings, or WindowsMobile Settings?

(1) ANDROKKID SETTINGS: Anywhere on the desktop, in between any icon, if you tap and hold, you get a whole menu of items, including direct access to SETTINGS.

(2) CREATING ICONS THAT LINK TO WINDOWS MOBILE SETTINGS:

These are all spelled out in the file attachment called "SHORTCUTS.txt" in Post #1 of this thread. Instead of just providing a link to a FOLDER of settings within WindowsMobile, Simo has given you individual access to many Personal Settings, System Settings, Communications Settings. That means 1-click access from an icon.

I will quite from that Shortcuts.txt file:

Links for settings:

------ PERSONAL SETTINGS --------

Settings>Personal>Phone>Phone = 21#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,20
Settings>Personal>Phone>Services = 23#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,20,1
Settings>Personal>Phone>Network = 23#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,20,2
Settings>Personal>Phone>More = 23#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,20,3

Settings>Personal>Menus>Start Menu = 21#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,11
Settings>Personal>Menus>New Menu = 23#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,11,1

Settings>Personal>Buttons>Program Buttons = 21#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,12
Settings>Personal>Buttons>Up/Down Controls = 23#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,12,1

Settings>Personal>Today>Appearance = 21#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,13
Settings>Personal>Today>Items = 23#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,13,1

Settings>Personal>Input>Input Method = 20#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,8
Settings>Personal>Input>Word Completion = 22#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,8,1
Settings>Personal>Input>Options = 22#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,8,2

Settings>Personal>Sounds & Notifications>Sounds = 20#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,9
Settings>Personal>Sounds & Notifications>Notifications = 22#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,9,1

Settings>Personal>Password>Password = 20#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,1
Settings>Personal>Password>Hint = 22#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,1,1
Settings>Personal>Owner Information>Identification = 20#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,2
Settings>Personal>Owner Information>Notes = 22#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,2,1
Settings>Personal>Owner Information>Options = 22#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,2,2


---------- SYSTEM SETTINGS ----------

Settings>System>Remove Programs = 21#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,10

Settings>System>Clock & Alarms>Time = 21#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,16
Settings>System>Clock & Alarms>Alarms = 23#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,16,2

Settings>System>Backlight>Brightness = 20#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,6
Settings>System>Backlight>Battery power= 20#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,6,1
Settings>System>Backlight>External power = 20#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,6,2

Settings>System>Screen>General = 20#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,7
Settings>System>Screen>Clear Type = 22#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,7,1
Settings>System>Screen>Text Size = 22#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,7,2

Settings>System>Power>Main = 20#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,3

Settings>System>Memory>Main = 20#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,4
Settings>System>Memory>Storage Card = 22#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,4,1
Settings>System>Memory>Running Programs = 22#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,4,2

Settings>System>Regional Settings>Region = 21#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,18
Settings>System>Regional Settings>Number = 23#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,18,1
Settings>System>Regional Settings>Currency = 23#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,18,2
Settings>System>Regional Settings>Time = 23#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,18,3
Settings>System>Regional Settings>Date = 23#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,18,4

Settings>System>About>Version = 20#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,5
Settings>System>About>Device ID = 22#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,5,1
Settings>System>About>Copyrights = 22#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,5,2

Settings>System>Certificates>Personal = 21#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,22
Settings>System>Certificates>Root = 23#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,22,1

Settings>System>Encryption = 21#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,27

Settings>System>Error Reporting = 21#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,24


------ CONNECTION SETTINGS ----------

Settings>Connections>Conn Manager = 21#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,26

Settings>Connections>Beam = 21#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,15

Settings>Connections>Network Cards = 21#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,17
Settings>Connections>Connections>Task = 21#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,19
Settings>Connections>Connection>Advanced = 23#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,19,1

Settings>Connections>Bluetooth>Mode = 21#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,23
Settings>Connections>Bluetooth>Devices = 23#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,23,1

Settings>Connections>External GPS>Programs = 21#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,25
Settings>Connections>External GPS>Hardware = 23#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,25,1
Settings>Connections>External GPS>Access = 23#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,25,2

Settings>Connections>USB to PC = 21#ctlpnl cplmain.cpl,28There are a few key ones missing, like WIFI Settings, so Be more specific when you make a request of Simo:

If you're looking for a link to the PERSONAL SETTINGS folder, ask him. Or SYSTEM SETTINGS folder, or CONNECTIONS folder.

quicksite
12th November 2009, 09:12 AM
1. MINIMIZE as an icon link that appears as a desktop item. Many people have asked for this for many months. WHY? Here's why:

For ifonz as well as Androkkid, the same problem has existed: You have designed both apps to replace the TODAY screen, so that if you select in the settings to "STARTUP WITH WINDOWS", Androkkid loads... and while it is running, some people WANT to access the Windows Mobile "Today" screen, or HTC Home, or touchflo, whatever.

It would seem very easy, since you have a minimize function within the left hand bottom menu, to create an icon for that same function, so people can place it where they like if they want to minimize Androkkid, and get to the Today screen...

Similarly, when working with a file explorer or registry editor or other utility, often it is not desireable to have Androkkid return to view until I explicitly call it. There are many ways I could call it:

a. I use WKtask ... which places a tab in the task bar that works just like Windows XP. tap it and the app restores. ... or
b. I can use the Start menu and tap "Running Apps", and select Androkkid that way.
c. If I choose to use a Windows Mobile Today screen, I can have androkkid as an icon there, and tap it.

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2. Selecting ICONS: Please add a user-defined default directory (in settings file), so that I can specify the path where I want Androkkid to look for icons. It gets very frustrating having to re-navigate from root, to storage folder, to next folder, etc, when instead, in the pulldown menu at top, if I could just select my default path... That way I could so easily select and replace icons.

-----------------
3. Screen locking: I see one person here asking five times about this: he says he saw an initial lock/unlock sequence within the initial install and set-up stage of first running Androkkid.

But as a separate argument: 2 years ago, maybe 3 by now, the standard everyone was using here at XDA was A_C's S2U2 ... And this was included in every ROM, and this was the preferred way to do this. That has changed.

As A_C has worked to make S2U2 a more robust app, that also shows weather, Appointments, Alarms, SMS messages, Missed Calls, and full-screen photo callerID for incoming call, integration with S2P even while screen is locked, even displaying SMS Messages while keeping the screen locked, the application is no longer light... so it is taxing the performance.

At the same time, every new interface system has been including all of those notifications and displays -- and that's part of the widget philosophy of Androkkid as well.

Third, there are 2 great utilities at XDA that do the same thing, but slightly differently: (a) XDAshutdown ,and (b) Slide2Shutdown ... Both give one-button access to related functions: Screen off, Sleep, Restart, Shutdown, Cancel -- and both enable the mapping of the app to the Power button.

People have been asking those developers "Please add screen locking, so we don't have to use S2U2, since it is not as lean an app". No one is sure when or if they will do it.

Fourth: An amazing amount of development effort has gone into a variety of auto-sensing methods to lock the screen -- such as when the phone approaches the ear, using G sensor, using accelerometer sensing etc. I have found all of those to be interesting -- but too complicated. Those threads are FULL of error problems from people talking about all the situations where it isn;t working well.

Fifth: A lot has chnaged in the touchscreen industry since Apple introduced "Slide 2 unlock", which was a brilliant simple solution to an annoying problem. Android has a much simpler lock/unlock system, and now so does WindowsMobile 6.5 ...

But to me it just makes sense that if an application like Androkkid is a full user interface and app-launching system, then it would make a lot of sense to have a built in, very lean, lock/unlock function... And i could also activate the LOCK with an icon on-screen. I'm not sure what your method of unlock would be, but the person who's been commenting here said you already had a "pull down tab" from top task bar.

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As always, I am willing to donate even more if you were to work on these 3 things.

Thank you for your consideration.

quicksite
12th November 2009, 09:14 AM
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ssj5trunks
12th November 2009, 10:18 AM
Hi Quicksite, you are ever a lot expansive in your explanation.
I want anwser:

1 - I can only make a button of minimize and i can add it in next version selectable in Type icons combobox, this isnt a problem to do;

2 - Folder for icons is a simple settings and i can set it when you click on button to change an icon image, this isnt a problem to do;

3 - Screen lock is a problem, because i dont know the functions to block all hardware buttons of all devices, instead the S2U2 program or similar do this action very well and are developed for this. Use these programs and dont ask me to recreate it.
I use S2U2 and disable all notifications, weather or other options if you dont want it and it do what you want.
I can search how to block the hardware buttons but it is a very big problem for VB.NET.

Bye

P.S.
The last CAB installation in my site work now or not?????

quicksite
12th November 2009, 10:51 AM
Hi Quicksite, you are ever a lot expansive in your explanation.
I want anwser:

I don't know what this means, but it doesn't sound good :rolleyes:

1 - I can only make a button of minimize and i can add it in next version selectable in Type icons combobox, this isnt a problem to do; excellent!

2 - Folder for icons is a simple settings and i can set it when you click on button to change an icon image, this isnt a problem to do; Good, this is what I was hoping. If I understand you correctly, right now when I click on the settings button to change an image, the path automatically goes to, i think: \Windows\Start Menu .... or something like that. But it would be nice if I can navigate once to the folder I want on my Storage Card, and then Androkkid settings retains that path, and makes that path the default for all other icons. ... But then of course, I can navigate to another folder, and then, afterwards Androkkid remembers THAT folder as default. .... Is this what you mean?


3 - Screen lock is a problem, because i dont know the functions to block all hardware buttons of all devices, instead the S2U2 program or similar do this action very well and are developed for this. Use these programs and dont ask me to recreate it. Okay. So please answer this part: The person who keeps saying here that he saw some unlock method from you: This person is mistaken, incorrect ----- is this right? (It MUST be right).


The last CAB installation in my site work now or not????? If you mean 1.0.0, it worked fine for me, to my T-Mobile Wing.

But before, with version 0.8, i had many crashes. So far, 1.0 seems good. I am really getting very happy with Androkkid! (also, now that I have seen real Android in action, and the Hero and Sense UI, i am even more impressed by your work)

A FEW NEW QUESTIONS:

1. Option to TURN OFF Icon grid: Is there any way you can allow user to choose whether he wants icons to "SNAP TO GRID" or not? I would prefer to be able to place my icons EXACTLY at the spot I move them, and not have them snap to an invisible grid.

(One really GREAT thing you do with Androkkid that Android does NOT allow: You let user drag a new icon or widget to the desktop and let it overlap on top of other icons -- until user can shuffle icons around and determine the placement for where he wants objects to go. With ANDROID, if the page is 80% filled with icons, and you try to drag a widget onto that page, and the widget is BIGGER than the free space available, it rejects the action, and you cannot drop the item to desktop, then shift other icons off to another page. So I am happy that you allow temporary overlapping of objects. It is MUCH more user friendly!)

2. Icon Rendering COMMENT: For people who were unhappy that some icons looked very pixellated and bad quality, one thing you should know is that if you try replacing any icons you don't like with different icons that are available (like the iReflect set), the graphics can look MUCH better -- and be very clean, even with a QVGA screen like mine.

3. WIDGET DEVELOPERS: (I know I should put this on the other thread, but for now I put it here) ... It would be nice if you could make 3 sizes of your widget, so that user has a choice to display BIG or small. For example, I like the HERO CLOCK, but for me it takes up way too much space on screen, and I would like a version that is 75% of the original size.

NOTE: I am aware that I can go adjust the icon size in the EDIT SETTINGS, but then the type rendering looks bad and pillexated, because the correct font size is being compressed.

Comparing to ANDROID OS, or to SenseUI or to HTC Widgets (I do not know which is responsible for this): They have this feature. If you choose a weather widget, you can use the submenu to then select a large version, a medium version, and a small version. The medium and small versions are almost always of a different design where some element of the widget is left off, rather than try to reduce it size, which could make it unreadable)

4. Important question for Simo:

Do you have "Bye" written in your sig file, or do you type "Bye" manually every single time? Or do you have a macro key on your keyboard that inserts it?

burnlea
12th November 2009, 10:59 AM
Hi Quicksite, you are ever a lot expansive in your explanation.
I want anwser:

1 - I can only make a button of minimize and i can add it in next version selectable in Type icons combobox, this isnt a problem to do;

2 - Folder for icons is a simple settings and i can set it when you click on button to change an icon image, this isnt a problem to do;

3 - Screen lock is a problem, because i dont know the functions to block all hardware buttons of all devices, instead the S2U2 program or similar do this action very well and are developed for this. Use these programs and dont ask me to recreate it.
I use S2U2 and disable all notifications, weather or other options if you dont want it and it do what you want.
I can search how to block the hardware buttons but it is a very big problem for VB.NET.

Bye

P.S.
The last CAB installation in my site work now or not?????

Hi Simo, If there is to be another update, could you make the changes to the battery widget icon that I requested previously (unless there is a reason why you can't).

They are:

Change the English text from 'In charging' to 'Charging'
Speed up the graphic cycle time to about 15 seconds

Both of these changes would make the appearance of Androkkid more professional looking and would definitely win another donation from me :)

Many thanks.

thedicemaster
12th November 2009, 12:57 PM
...
1. Option to TURN OFF Icon grid: [/B]Is there any way you can allow user to choose whether he wants icons to "SNAP TO GRID" or not? I would prefer to be able to place my icons EXACTLY at the spot I move them, and not have them snap to an invisible grid.
...

you can just set the grid to 1x1 in settings.

and ssj5trunks could you please look at this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4919256&postcount=703

teacher1960
12th November 2009, 12:57 PM
I have tried at least 10 different versions of S2U2 and what they all have in common is that they completely fuck up my phone, Most of the time I'm not able answer incoming calls at all, S2U2 just kind of locks up everything and I furiously try again and again to answer the call. I'm very busy exploring other things at the moment but I dream of finding a screen locker that works and still lets me answer calls

quicksite
12th November 2009, 01:36 PM
teacher, I am guessing you've tried every variation... but I understand this problem exactly. (i've spent 4 years with windows mobile just trying to answer simple phonecalls: they, as always , are partially at fault due to retarded interface. htc phone canvas finally made answering a simple phonecalls not a mind-numbing ordeal ). with s2u2 it works best when you turn off every phone feature incl especially caller id. all that stuff like "blank screen" and whatever else, disable all in s2u2 prefs... then, when a call comes , it does pass the call thru to phone canvas...... that improved things a lot! I have tried at least 10 different versions of S2U2 and what they all have in common is that they completely fuck up my phone, Most of the time I'm not able answer incoming calls at all, S2U2 just kind of locks up everything and I furiously try again and again to answer the call. I'm very busy exploring other things at the moment but I dream of finding a screen locker that works and still lets me answer calls

burnlea
12th November 2009, 02:27 PM
I have tried at least 10 different versions of S2U2 and what they all have in common is that they completely fuck up my phone, Most of the time I'm not able answer incoming calls at all, S2U2 just kind of locks up everything and I furiously try again and again to answer the call. I'm very busy exploring other things at the moment but I dream of finding a screen locker that works and still lets me answer calls

Not sure if this solution is what you are looking for:

There is a free application called PQz_key.exe that simulates key presses. If you use that app with the command line argument D:85, it invokes the built in windows mobile lock facility. I have it as a shortcut in Androkkid on my o2 XDA Stellar (Tytn II clone) running WM6.1 and it works fine, locking the phone, but allowing calls to be answered.

ssj5trunks
12th November 2009, 02:56 PM
I don't know what this means, but it doesn't sound good :rolleyes:

excellent!

Good, this is what I was hoping. If I understand you correctly, right now when I click on the settings button to change an image, the path automatically goes to, i think: \Windows\Start Menu .... or something like that. But it would be nice if I can navigate once to the folder I want on my Storage Card, and then Androkkid settings retains that path, and makes that path the default for all other icons. ... But then of course, I can navigate to another folder, and then, afterwards Androkkid remembers THAT folder as default. .... Is this what you mean?


Okay. So please answer this part: The person who keeps saying here that he saw some unlock method from you: This person is mistaken, incorrect ----- is this right? (It MUST be right).


If you mean 1.0.0, it worked fine for me, to my T-Mobile Wing.

But before, with version 0.8, i had many crashes. So far, 1.0 seems good. I am really getting very happy with Androkkid! (also, now that I have seen real Android in action, and the Hero and Sense UI, i am even more impressed by your work)

A FEW NEW QUESTIONS:

1. Option to TURN OFF Icon grid: Is there any way you can allow user to choose whether he wants icons to "SNAP TO GRID" or not? I would prefer to be able to place my icons EXACTLY at the spot I move them, and not have them snap to an invisible grid.

(One really GREAT thing you do with Androkkid that Android does NOT allow: You let user drag a new icon or widget to the desktop and let it overlap on top of other icons -- until user can shuffle icons around and determine the placement for where he wants objects to go. With ANDROID, if the page is 80% filled with icons, and you try to drag a widget onto that page, and the widget is BIGGER than the free space available, it rejects the action, and you cannot drop the item to desktop, then shift other icons off to another page. So I am happy that you allow temporary overlapping of objects. It is MUCH more user friendly!)

2. Icon Rendering COMMENT: For people who were unhappy that some icons looked very pixellated and bad quality, one thing you should know is that if you try replacing any icons you don't like with different icons that are available (like the iReflect set), the graphics can look MUCH better -- and be very clean, even with a QVGA screen like mine.

3. WIDGET DEVELOPERS: (I know I should put this on the other thread, but for now I put it here) ... It would be nice if you could make 3 sizes of your widget, so that user has a choice to display BIG or small. For example, I like the HERO CLOCK, but for me it takes up way too much space on screen, and I would like a version that is 75% of the original size.

NOTE: I am aware that I can go adjust the icon size in the EDIT SETTINGS, but then the type rendering looks bad and pillexated, because the correct font size is being compressed.

Comparing to ANDROID OS, or to SenseUI or to HTC Widgets (I do not know which is responsible for this): They have this feature. If you choose a weather widget, you can use the submenu to then select a large version, a medium version, and a small version. The medium and small versions are almost always of a different design where some element of the widget is left off, rather than try to reduce it size, which could make it unreadable)

4. Important question for Simo:

Do you have "Bye" written in your sig file, or do you type "Bye" manually every single time? Or do you have a macro key on your keyboard that inserts it?

First of all i dont have a method to lock/unlock the device, i use S2U2 in my device.
Second i want add a variables to save the last folders used for icons and applications.

And now the answers:

1. To turn off grid go to Androkkid Settings and set 1x1 in Grid dimension;
2. I dont know why the rendering of icons is bad, in my Diamond is correct, i think it is a problem of dimension of icons or Extraction of icon from Executables;
3. Each developer can create his widget how it want, it can use directly graphics object without resize the fonts or other bitmaps. I have uploaded some examples but the developer can modify the use of variables (See the Analog Clock source code, in it i dont resize anything);
4. No my posts start with "Bye" word and i write before of it. :)

Bye

P.s.
I'm writing in my notepad all yours suggestions (Quicksite and Burnlea) and in next version i'll add it.

bas85
12th November 2009, 05:02 PM
I tried installing it says it needs a newer verion of microsoft .NET compact framework to run this on my Tilt. Anyone can lend me a hand here. Sorry im a noob. Just starting to get into the phone modification stuff.

teacher1960
12th November 2009, 05:34 PM
Quicksite ---(i've spent 4 years with windows mobile just trying to answer simple phonecalls: they, as always , are partially at fault due to retarded interface
Talk about retarded wm. Here are some of the things which make my HTC x7510 lightyears in front of the software nightmare it was out of the box.
If i manage to display the picture beneath you can see what makes my day much easier
Just one click for everything and no going looking deep in submenus
I made a lot of shortcut links to windowscalls and all you have to do is to put them in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs and after you restart Androkkid they show up in the Androkkid programs interface. Then all you have to do is to assign an icon

jerrya
12th November 2009, 11:11 PM
I installed the Androkkid on my iPaq 2400 series pocket pc, and although it took me awhile to get it up and running, it is so well worth any effort. I had some issues with NET 3.5, but it has performed flawlessly since installed, and I now am trying to find the perfect PNG's for all the applications. 5 pages worth, love the ability to view my pictures, and the background scrolls so smooth. Very good job on this program, beats everything out there!
:D:D:D

12gage
13th November 2009, 06:55 PM
i apologize if this has been asked, I searched and didn't see it. I have the zip version and put it in my program files, but everytime I try to run I get "DirectoryNotFoundException" error, any suggestions?

teacher1960
13th November 2009, 07:06 PM
i apologize if this has been asked, I searched and didn't see it. I have the zip version and put it in my program files, but everytime I try to run I get "DirectoryNotFoundException" error, any suggestions?

Did you just put the exe file in the program folder or the entire unzipped Androkkid folder. I've never heard of your error before

surrealbliss
13th November 2009, 07:20 PM
First of all i dont have a method to lock/unlock the device, i use S2U2 in my device.



so can you explain to me what it was that happened the first time I loaded Androkkid and it made me slide a button from about 30% of the way of the screen down to the bottom to unlock it?

Am I delusional? Is that what you're telling me?

========================

Anyways... at this point I no longer care for Androkkid to have this functionality as I am now enjoying Throttle Lock, which is an Android like locking program. It's quite nice. ;)

teacher1960
13th November 2009, 07:36 PM
so can you explain to me what it was that happened the first time I loaded Androkkid and it made me slide a button from about 30% of the way of the screen down to the bottom to unlock it?

Am I delusional? Is that what you're tellin me ;)
Ofcourse you are delusional, didn't your nearest friends give you a hint yet;)
No but seriously neither ifonz nor Androkkid has ever had anything like that and the developer has always promoted S2U2 in a big way and he uses that himself.
Most of the people you find on XDA try a lot of different apps on their devices so maybe you somhow triggered some remnant in the register of an old app that you have forgotten about

12gage
13th November 2009, 07:46 PM
Did you just put the exe file in the program folder or the entire unzipped Androkkid folder. I've never heard of your error before

yes sir, I left everything the way it was in the zip. Just moved the Androkkid folder to "Program Files". The initial splash screen comes up then I get the error. I have 3.5 installed and had no problem running iFonz 1 or 2. I'm able to open and save settings but the program crashes on me

teacher1960
13th November 2009, 08:12 PM
yes sir, I left everything the way it was in the zip. Just moved the Androkkid folder to "Program Files". The initial splash screen comes up then I get the error. I have 3.5 installed and had no problem running iFonz 1 or 2. I'm able to open and save settings but the program crashes on me

This is very strange. You can ofcourse try to run it from another location because Androkkid can be run from anywhere you like on your device. Just speculating now.. Could something have gone wrong during download, maybe you should download it again and see if you get the same result.

12gage
13th November 2009, 09:53 PM
This is very strange. You can ofcourse try to run it from another location because Androkkid can be run from anywhere you like on your device. Just speculating now.. Could something have gone wrong during download, maybe you should download it again and see if you get the same result.

thanks for your help teacher, I still can't get it to work. I tried redownloading, moving it to the root directory, and installing the cab.....still same problem :mad:

teacher1960
13th November 2009, 10:03 PM
thanks for your help teacher, I still can't get it to work. I tried redownloading, moving it to the root directory, and installing the cab.....still same problem :mad:

If you have patience enough to try out stuff. How about trying out Androkkid. 0.80 to see if that works for you. 0.8.0 is damn good anyway

teacher1960
13th November 2009, 10:10 PM
yes sir, I left everything the way it was in the zip. Just moved the Androkkid folder to "Program Files". The initial splash screen comes up then I get the error. I have 3.5 installed and had no problem running iFonz 1 or 2. I'm able to open and save settings but the program crashes on me

By the way don't use the cab. Use Androkkid cabless, so much better in my experience. If you have used the cab version untill now you should definitely try the cabless version.

ccrdr
14th November 2009, 02:38 AM
so can you explain to me what it was that happened the first time I loaded Androkkid and it made me slide a button from about 30% of the way of the screen down to the bottom to unlock it?

Am I delusional? Is that what you're telling me?

surrealbliss, same thing happened to me on first launch, just as you describe. Seems like it had the same black background as the programs tray. The first version I loaded was .8 on my TP running stock Alltel rom.

nanomite
14th November 2009, 04:01 AM
Hi,

On my IPAQ 214 .net3.5 WM6.5, when I switch between portrait and landscape, Androkkid does not update. i.e. If started in portrait it loads fine, but if I then switch to landscape it basically rotates Androkkid to landscape but with portrait mode dimensions and vice versa. Also when I press START it briefly shows the menu then it disappears.

On a side note how much RAM does this use as I was thinking of loading it on to my HTC Universal, but that has limited RAM.

Thanks for the effort and thanks in advance.

surrealbliss
14th November 2009, 05:14 AM
Ofcourse you are delusional, didn't your nearest friends give you a hint yet;)
No but seriously neither ifonz nor Androkkid has ever had anything like that and the developer has always promoted S2U2 in a big way and he uses that himself.
Most of the people you find on XDA try a lot of different apps on their devices so maybe you somhow triggered some remnant in the register of an old app that you have forgotten about

It couldn't have possibly be any old program as I had just gotten my phone replaced by Sprint. Because I had just gotten it replaced I came to freewarepocketpc.net to re-download a different customization program and I came across Androkkid. Androkkid was the 3rd program I put on my phone only after Total Commander and Google Maps. So whatever it was I saw definitely came from Androkkid.


surrealbliss, same thing happened to me on first launch, just as you describe. Seems like it had the same black background as the programs tray. The first version I loaded was .8 on my TP running stock Alltel rom.

Thank you! I'm not crazy!

I had just got my new phone replacement and I updated it to the Sprint win6.1 with radio rom and then as described above... Third program I installed.

quicksite
14th November 2009, 07:05 AM
It couldn't have possibly be any old program as I had just gotten my phone replaced by Sprint. Because I had just gotten it replaced I came to freewarepocketpc.net to re-download a different customization program and I came across Androkkid. Androkkid was the 3rd program I put on my phone only after Total Commander and Google Maps. So whatever it was I saw definitely came from Androkkid.

I'm going to be reinstalling Androkkid after I've just done a hard-reset which wipes the device drive. I'll install it to device and watch closely. No one has ever seen simo in real life. He could very well be an android with a wicked sense of humor trying to drive you mad, insane. We just don't know anything about this droid, other than he says "bye" a lot.

TEACHER: why, in your view, is androkkid a better performing app when unzipped, vs installed by cab? I'd like to know before i run this experiment.

zer0es
14th November 2009, 10:44 AM
Hi,
Im using Androkkid 1.0 and all is working fine for me.
Im using WM 6.5 and i like the default lock.
My question is, is there any way we can invoke the lock with icon on the screen?
Is there any shortcut we can put in?
Since i cant access to the honeycomb menu after i use Androkkid, so i can only lock my device with long press end key.

Any idea?:confused:

teacher1960
14th November 2009, 11:19 AM
TEACHER: why, in your view, is androkkid a better performing app when unzipped, vs installed by cab? I'd like to know before i run this experiment.
I like that you can install where you like, and not always in program files, but much more important is the fact that I remember that somebody had installing troubles and then when they went from cab to zip their troubles went away for no apparent reason. I can't remember how long ago I read it and it might have been for Ifonz not Androkkid but nevertheless...

burnlea
14th November 2009, 12:12 PM
Hi,
Im using Androkkid 1.0 and all is working fine for me.
Im using WM 6.5 and i like the default lock.
My question is, is there any way we can invoke the lock with icon on the screen?
Is there any shortcut we can put in?
Since i cant access to the honeycomb menu after i use Androkkid, so i can only lock my device with long press end key.

Any idea?:confused:

@zer0es

See my post #722 on this thread

teacher1960
14th November 2009, 12:20 PM
@zer0es

See my post #722 on this thread
You could also check out this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386451
It's an app that works in conjunction with the screenlock in the operating system

zer0es
14th November 2009, 01:29 PM
@zer0es

See my post #722 on this thread

Sorry i missed that post:p

I've already downloaded the app, but how can i use it?
The explanation from the web is all in.. Japanese?:confused:

Im using HTC Diamond btw

thedicemaster
14th November 2009, 01:29 PM
nanomite: it's not a problem with androkkid, it's you trying to use it on an unsupported resolution.
it simply doesn't support landscape resolutions.

zer0es
14th November 2009, 01:30 PM
You could also check out this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386451
It's an app that works in conjunction with the screenlock in the operating system


I got tht installed actually, but i cant lock my device manually.
I need to wait the timer for it to be automatically lock:(

So. im searching for another way to let me lock it manually.

Thanks for the response!:)

burnlea
14th November 2009, 02:27 PM
Sorry i missed that post:p

I've already downloaded the app, but how can i use it?
The explanation from the web is all in.. Japanese?:confused:

Im using HTC Diamond btw

@zer0es

1. download a suitable 'lock' icon
2. create a new shortcut pointing the 'Link' field to PQz_key.exe
3. put D:85 in the 'Parameters' field
4. point the 'Image' field to the lock icon
5. Click OK

zer0es
14th November 2009, 02:54 PM
@zer0es

1. download a suitable 'lock' icon
2. create a new shortcut pointing the 'Link' field to PQz_key.exe
3. put D:85 in the 'Parameters' field
4. point the 'Image' field to the lock icon
5. Click OK

That's quite complicated:confused:

But i found another program which do the same thing as this one.
Lockandoff.exe will just lock your device and turn off the backlight at the same time!:D

Guess im a happy man now:p

burnlea
14th November 2009, 07:57 PM
That's quite complicated:confused:

But i found another program which do the same thing as this one.
Lockandoff.exe will just lock your device and turn off the backlight at the same time!:D

Guess im a happy man now:p

Not really complicated, just the standard procedure for a shortcut to any application in Androkkid.

The advantage of PQz_key.exe is that you can create shortcuts to other functions also such as the DPad Left and Right keys to move the Androkkid screen one page left or right if you don't have 'finger gestures' available.

12gage
14th November 2009, 08:39 PM
If you have patience enough to try out stuff. How about trying out Androkkid. 0.80 to see if that works for you. 0.8.0 is damn good anyway

i tried both versions, and zipped and cab still nothing, i'll try reinstalled 3.5 to see if that helps


edit it didn't :(