[APP] XDApp/LibXDA- XDA-Devs on your phone / in your app! (Semi-nightly builds!)

[ktemkin]

Things are going much slower now that I'm so loaded with unrelated work- but that's life. Oh, well. Progress is being made.

Good news is, I've managed to make it _bearable_ on WM6.5, though it's not yet perfect. I've put that aside and started working on pre-fetching/pre-caching. Good amount of work is done on that- it speeds up loading incredibly.

I've implemented a multi-tiered system that allow you to select how 'aggressively' you wan the program to prefetch/precache. (Pre-fetching determines what links the user will probably click and downloads them to a local temporary folder; pre-caching loads the relevant parts of them into memory when it thinks the user is about to load them.) Current settings are 'off', for users who don't like temporary files or pay by the kilobyte, 'passive', which simply prefetches your subscribed threads, 'normal', which prefetches your subscribed and most commonly viewed threads, 'assertive', which downloads threads that have been popular lately for your device (according to the forums and including non-device-specific forums) as well, 'aggressive', which also prefetches any thread you've looked at recently, and 'psychotic', which would precache the first X threads in every forum you haven't chosen to hide or specifically excluded.

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I had an idea last night for 'magnet' style links that the XDApp would understand; things like "registry://" which would offer users the option to modify their device's registry. For example, if you were a tweak developer who discovered a registry hack that made Program A compatible with WM6.5, you could offer users the ability to set "HKLM\Software\ProgramA\IsWM65" to the DWORD 0x01 by a simple link: "registry://HKEY_LOCALMACHINE/Software/Program%20A/IsWM65?type=DWORD&value=0x01".

Of course, for security reasons, the software would pop up a huge, red-icon warning box that read something along the lines of "WARNING! The link you have just clicked will modify your system registry. This can seriously damage device stability and require a hard reset / data loss. Only click 'continue' if you trust the author and understand completely what this edit will do."

Of course, not all of the 'magnet'-style links need to be that scary. I'm sure you all have plenty of other ideas for them. Personally, I'm kind of on edge about the ability to simply click a link to modify the registry. It would make customization for experts much easier, but it would also make it a lot easier for newbies to screw themselves over.

What do you guys think of the idea?
What would you think of the idea if it was originally disabled, but could be enabled by:
- check box in the settings, with appropriate warning?
- an 'expert user' mode?
- a manual registry edit?

[ace10134]

Holy shit, that's a freakin brilliant idea, the Registry Editing thing!!!!!!!

I think, just have a pop-up when you click it, warning you what it'll do. Have the default option: Cancel. Then, have a Check Box, so that if you want to continue, you actually have to check the box, and then click Continue!

But I'm loaded with other stuff too. We all are. But you obviously have found some time to think about this stuff and all, and that was genius.

Also, the pre-cache idea, loving that too! That'll make everything just soooo much faster. Pre-caching your subscribed threads is a great idea, too.

You continue to suprise me, Kyle!

I will just say Thanks from everyone following this, because I think anyone reading this is really thankful to have a great developer like you :)

[sc00basteve]

Edit: I'm having trouble with 6.5's native DisplayClass control (the web browser); it starts by default in with selection mode on, which means no touch scrolling. I've been trying to create it using the NOSELECTION flag, which will allow kinetic scrolling, but C# doesn't seem to like creating the instances I need in that way. I'll have to research why it's not working more in the morning.

If anyone has any experience / sample code that utilizes the WC_HTML / DISPLAYCLASS that specifically utilizes the NativeWindow class, I'd be very interested to see it. Now, I'm going to head to bed.

Wish I could help but maybe danielherrero can. His FIM APP uses an IE window. And it works great but his is still buggy on 6.5+ as well. Maybe you two can help each other out?
Looking forward to your work! It coming along suprisingly fast :)

[DaveTheTytnIIGuy]

Jeez Kyle, you really have some amazing ideas. I personally think that the Magnet style links is awesome, and I definitely agree with the idea of an "expert mode" so people who don't know what they're doing can avoid screwing themselves over. With all the work you've put in and results you've produced, I'd say this whole forum is thankful for you hard work. Thanks,

Dave

[12aon]

Hey man, have been checking your statusbar the first page. Today I took the time to actually read the entire post, and man you must one wicked smart dude :). If this app is going to be having all those features, and magnet style stuff WOW, then put me down for 25 eur. I hope to stimulate this a bit because this is one rad project.

As for my opinion I would make an expert mode for users who wish to use those kind of changes and of course still have a big flashy bubble pop-up saying: "Are you mad?"

Keep it up man, I didn't know, 12

[uniqueboy]

Great idea ktemkin, could the magnet style links include items like "apply wallpaper" and "copy manilla file" and would it be too much for the app to make a backup of any reg entries or other files it was overwriting before it overwrote them?:)

[krook6023]

Hey man...you must one wicked smart dude...this is one rad project...

Ditto...Kyle thanks for making this app...even better than I hped:)

[infazz]

"magnet" links great idea!

my little idea: will be great to put options with favorites forums of xda... so with app load, it will show only selected forums, and there will be no need to load all forums. for example I'll choose 'Xperia' and 'development and hacking' forums

:)

[ace10134]

"magnet" links great idea!

my little idea: will be great to put options with favorites forums of xda... so with app load, it will show only selected forums, and there will be no need to load all forums. for example I'll choose 'Xperia' and 'development and hacking' forums

:)

I like your idea.

When you first boot up the app (only for the first time), it'll ask you what devices you own. Then, it'll taylor the threads for your phone(s)! I always hate having to scroll down to my phone's section. This is a brilliant idea!

[DatDereX1]

"magnet" links great idea!

my little idea: will be great to put options with favorites forums of xda... so with app load, it will show only selected forums, and there will be no need to load all forums. for example I'll choose 'Xperia' and 'development and hacking' forums

:)

nice idea bro

[DaveTheTytnIIGuy]

my little idea: will be great to put options with favorites forums of xda... so with app load, it will show only selected forums, and there will be no need to load all forums. for example I'll choose 'Xperia' and 'development and hacking' forums

:)

That's an excellent idea! I would love that, since it's always annoying to scroll all the way down to the Kaiser section.

Dave

[ktemkin]

That was already a planned feature, though I think it kind of was absorbed into another item in the feature-list.

More work has been done on prefetching; I spent a couple of hours today optimizing the ratio of cache-in-RAM to cache-in-storage. The software is optimized to use a SD card (or internal storage in the case of the diamond), but can operate on native device storage if necessary- or purely out of RAM, if needs be.

I should have a weekly build for you guys to play with on Labor day- with hopefully a lot more features.

I'll give you an actual status update either tomorrow or monday.

[noellenchris]

Great News! Thanks....:D

[ktemkin]

Everything I've done to make WM 6.5 bearable seems to no longer work under the newer 2304x builds- but there's a silver lining; now the DisplayClass/WebBrowser control works as expected without jumping through hoops.

Working on attachment support as we speak.

[ace10134]

Everything I've done to make WM 6.5 bearable seems to no longer work under the newer 2304x builds- but there's a silver lining; now the DisplayClass/WebBrowser control works as expected without jumping through hoops.

Working on attachment support as we speak.

Eh, whatever, the WM6.5.1 builds are still in progress.

But dam, I'm looking forward to tomorrow, maybe you could release another beta in the morning, and then enjoy your "labor day"? lol. You're a beast of a developer, but you've gotta rest some time!

[Nullstring]

coolness! waiting for this app to finish!!

[ktemkin]

This is a test magnet link, for testing the XDApp. (about:registry?mode=create_key&name=HKEY_CURRENT_USER%5CTest)

[ace10134]

This is a test magnet link, for testing the XDApp. (registry:createkey?name=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE%5CTest )

Haha, lucky :)

[ktemkin]

Well, I need some sleep. I'll have a real, consequential build tomorrow; but if any of you want to mess around tonight, here's tonight's Nightly.

As always with the Nightly's, I've pretty much just compiled it an uploaded it, so there are probably plenty of little code bits that are not included / unfinished / non-working.

But it should be fun to mess with.

[DaveTheTytnIIGuy]

Well, I need some sleep. I'll have a real, consequential build tomorrow; but if any of you want to mess around tonight, here's tonight's Nightly.

As always with the Nightly's, I've pretty much just compiled it an uploaded it, so there are probably plenty of little code bits that are not included / unfinished / non-working.

But it should be fun to mess with.

Nice work, I'm playing with it now.

[cyberpunk627]

whoooo super good!! can't wait for a real app to play with! this will surely be one of the most read threads ever when you'll release it!

many many thanks for your hard work!!

[Piter1225]

I have tested it, and sometimes see IE working in background, and also sometimes .NET Cf error, but app looks nice, can't wait for final version :)

[xILukasIx]

Can't wait to get this app on my TG01!
You can add me to the list: 10€

One question: Will this support AppToDate?

[ktemkin]

I have tested it, and sometimes see IE working in background, and also sometimes .NET Cf error, but app looks nice, can't wait for final version :)

I doubt you see IE working in the background, as the app doesn't use IE for down/uploads. Instead, it uses the WebRequest framework, which is invisible (and completely unrelated to IE).

You might see an IE loading bar on the bottom, but that's because the Lite version uses an instance of the DisplayClass to display HTML, which uses IE's interface chrome.

As for the CF errors, those only happen if you choose to exit the program in a weird way, or select an item that hasn't been implemented. I've turned off the error handling routines that normally prevent those from happening, as they contain useful debug
information.

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And yes, it'll support AppToDate. The first alpha is close to done, but it'll probably be out tomorrow night as I'm still working now.

Edit: I decided to rewrite the compressed fetching routine to enable progress to be reported to external routines via a delegate; this allows progress bars to be displayed during everything from "Contacting Server" to actual downloads. This becomes especially important when attachments are being downloaded.

I've elected not to compress file downloads for a few reasons:

1) It would be slow. For most of us (with unlimited data plans) the point of compression is to speed up file transfer. By my method, I'd have to transfer the file to my server, compress it there, and then send it to the device. In order to have the compression be effective, I'd need to know the entire contents of the file, and thus would have to wait for the whole file to be downloaded twice- once, uncompressed, to my server, then once, compressed, to the device. Even on slower connections, this is usually slower than just download uncompressed.
2) In order for it to be faster, I'd need a broad pipe directly to the XDA servers, or a caching mechanism. This would tax a lot of resources, and is thus impractical.

[God_Lx]

heck i'm typing from the latest nightly on a diamond running 23017 and it's awesome, gona give it a try on a P535 (qvga) running 23041 next to check for issues with the new wm look...

Really impressed with the work so far, keep it up !

[ace10134]

Hmm, LibXDA....Sounds cool, lol...

Have a great idea for your own XDA-based application? I'll be releasing LibXDA soon, a .NET library that will allow you to interface with the XDA-developers forum. Check the forums directly from your app, or make a post from your application. Support for .NET and COM inter-ops, so it's extremely easy to use .NET applications, and usable from C++.

(Of course, if you're going to run the application from C++, the library will still suffer that 'managed overhead' that C# programs suffer from.)

If I ever figure out C#, I'll play around with it!

[Jacklad]

Have been playing around with the latest nightly and this is gonna be super cool - kudos -

I actually wanted to use it to check the status of the latest ROM release from the NFSFAN thread, but the thread wasn't listed - all of the others were there (Vogue/Vogue Upgrades), but that thread was not there - any ideas?

[ktemkin]

Grrrgck! I just reinstalled XP, as its performance in VirtualBox sucks, and it decided to make the system root F:- which is no big deal, except now the Windows Mobile SDK won't install.

And yes, I did "subst c: f:\"; no dice. Looks like I have to install 7 over it. This is waaay too much of a hastle- all I have to do is fix a simple glitch so I can get the Alpha out. No fair, Windows. No fair.

[stylez]

Grrrgck! I just reinstalled XP, as its performance in VirtualBox sucks, and it decided to make the system root F:- which is no big deal, except now the Windows Mobile SDK won't install.

And yes, I did "subst c: f:\"; no dice. Looks like I have to install 7 over it. This is waaay too much of a hastle- all I have to do is fix a simple glitch so I can get the Alpha out. No fair, Windows. No fair.

Good luck :)

Look forward to alpha, this will be amazing for peeps like me on limited data plans...

Thankyou for your work & time.

[cyberpunk627]

waiting eagerly for it Kyle!

[ktemkin]

Okay, 7 is back up and I have the development tools running. Should have another nightly / hopefully the alpha tomorrow night, unless something calls me back to real life.

[cyberpunk627]

time zones calculations are killing my brain :D

[ktemkin]

Sorry for any inconvenience, but I just was slammed with work and have had to delay what I've been doing. Shouldn't be more than a day or two.

Thanks for all of your patience, I know I've been slow to update ever since my workload increased. I know the lite version is tantalizingly close; I feel like I'm luring you guys and then pulling everything away at the last minute. I'm not trying to; it's just that real life takes precedence over development issues.

If you spot a missing thread, forum, post, or etc., send me a private message with the HTML source of the relevant page and the name of the thread that's missing. That just means there's some formatting I wasn't aware of, and I'll have to add a few characters to my regular expression.

[ace10134]

Sorry for any inconvenience, but I just was slammed with work and have had to delay what I've been doing. Shouldn't be more than a day or two.

Thanks for all of your patience, I know I've been slow to update ever since my workload increased. I know the lite version is tantalizingly close; I feel like I'm luring you guys and then pulling everything away at the last minute. I'm not trying to; it's just that real life takes precedence over development issues.

If you spot a missing thread, forum, post, or etc., send me a private message with the HTML source of the relevant page and the name of the thread that's missing. That just means there's some formatting I wasn't aware of, and I'll have to add a few characters to my regular expression.

I'll speak for the majority here......

Take all the time you need, Kyle. You are already developing this app extremely quickly! The Slide2Send project was started before our project here, and you already have working apps, websites, etc! You are doing a very fine job, and the community appreaciates it. And we do like written updates on where you're at right now, it's not that much of a tease, we can handle it, lol. So, let your real life take over your forum life. But still, release the app sometime this year ;) hah.

Thanks again from all of us for being the greatest (In my mind) developer we could ever have. I would honestly think that you are 10 people, developing all of this. You are amazing. Period.

[DaveTheTytnIIGuy]

I'll speak for the majority here......

Take all the time you need, Kyle. You are already developing this app extremely quickly! The Slide2Send project was started before our project here, and you already have working apps, websites, etc! You are doing a very fine job, and the community appreaciates it. And we do like written updates on where you're at right now, it's not that much of a tease, we can handle it, lol. So, let your real life take over your forum life. But still, release the app sometime this year ;) hah.

Thanks again from all of us for being the greatest (In my mind) developer we could ever have. I would honestly think that you are 10 people, developing all of this. You are amazing. Period.

Couldn't have said it better myself...

[aussiebum]

Was just gonna try out the nightly build but getting a "IndexOutOfRangeException" error on startup, which I think is related to my login details (as the first time I started the app it was ok, but this happened after I put my login details in and checked "remember me" and "login automatically").

Does anyone know where XDAppLiteNET.exe stores your login details so I can delete them and stop the app from crashing everytime I try launching it?

Thanks...

EDIT: Using Touch HD, WM 6.5 build 23047

[Bijdehandje]

They say here in Holland that all good things come slowly so i guess i can say... Take your time :D You did a hell of a job allready and quickly too so no prob. Real life goes before cyber/forum life.

[ktemkin]

Does anyone know where XDAppLiteNET.exe stores your login details so I can delete them and stop the app from crashing everytime I try launching it?

Currently the settings are in HKLM\Software\XDApp. Probably going to move the whole key to HKCU, as these are user settings and not machine-wide settings. (I have no idea how the wound up in HKLM; I must have been asleep.)

Could you please post your registry values so I can see what's going wrong? Chances are it's just that I have error handling off (for debug purposes) and it'll work fine on non-nightly builds. Do yourself a favor- make sure you don't post your PasswordHash.

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Important Note: The XDApp will no longer be completely open source. I still plan on releasing the majority of the source, however, the last few nightlies have included a proprietary encryption algorithm which I use to secure user passwords. I believe it would be a threat to the security of the end user for the encryption and cryptographic hashing algorithm to be publically released.

Due to the nature of the application, the password hash must contain enough information in order to authenticate a user to the XDA Developers servers. This hash is encrypted and stored in the device registry in order to allow the XDApp to authenticate automatically. Were I to release encryption information, it would become simple for another user to steal your password hash, decrypt it, and send the appropriate postdata in order to log in under your account.

[cyberpunk627]

any news on a possible newer release Kyle??
I searched the whole thread but didn't find anything about themes.. how to get my hands on the rhodium one? or will it be for a future release? I really didn't understand the whole themes thing, please be gentle :)

keep up the good work! the patience and time you're spending on this app are really promising, it will be perfect and polished someday!! ;)

[aussiebum]

Currently the settings are in HKLM\Software\XDApp. Probably going to move the whole key to HKCU, as these are user settings and not machine-wide settings. (I have no idea how the wound up in HKLM; I must have been asleep.)

Could you please post your registry values so I can see what's going wrong? Chances are it's just that I have error handling off (for debug purposes) and it'll work fine on non-nightly builds. [I]Do yourself a favor- make sure you don't post your PasswordHash.


Hmm, I'd already checked and found HKLM\Software\XDApp last night, and the key's blank - there are no values stored inside it at all. Already tried deleting the key and rerunning the nightly build, but same issue, so I figure there must be some sort of file somewhere that's storing settings.

I've been trying to run the last nightly build off Storage Card. Have taken screenshots to show the .net crash details I get when I run the app, hope these help. Thanks!

[ktemkin]

That is appearing because I have error handling off, but it seems that something about the date when you're logging is in completely confusing the .NET framework. Awesome.

I'll check it out when I have a chance.

[aussiebum]

That is appearing because I have error handling off, but it seems that something about the date when you're logging is in completely confusing the .NET framework. Awesome.

I'll check it out when I have a chance.

Ah, managed to stumble on something interesting. It seems for some reason when XDApp was trying to save down the login details, instead of putting it in HKLM/Software/XDApp, it put the values in the root of HKLM :rolleyes:

Will try again after I delete those keys.... thanks anyways :)

[Adriel623]

Excuse me guys..but can this be used on a smartphone for example, motoq, tmobile dash, maple? even if it doesnt work, best of luck to u and it looks great already+++

[ktemkin]

Excuse me guys..but can this be used on a smartphone?

Should be binary compatible (as in it should run), may have some sizing issues (I'll test the app on a smart-phone emulator later to increase compatibility.).

Also, I've started development again! Huzzah!

[sc00basteve]

Also, I've started development again! Huzzah!

Great to hear!
I was diggin all the previews and info. It took me a few readings to get through all your big plans hehe. I've been running various 6.5.1 ROMs on my CDMA Touch Pro so let me know if you would like any help testing.

[ktemkin]

Lots of work on encryption, fancy 'lite' UI effects, and I've even experimented a little to see if I could put icons on the new 6.5.1 buttons. The .NET framework really doesn't seem to like that.

Anyone have any small features they'd like to request for the next nightly? :-p'

Edit: I just spend a few hours pondering how to overcome WM's natural sluggishness on older devices, and I thought to myself: this application really needs a threading model overhaul anyways, as it's grown past what I had included in my original parameters, backend-wise.

Next actual update should include major performance upgrades, especially during communications with the forums.

[aussiebum]

Anyone have any small features they'd like to request for the next nightly? :-p'


Yeah... ability to bookmark forum pages / threads would be nice. Another handy feature would be scrolling thread title when selected.... at the moment the titles cut off too soon for my liking (see screenshot), and the preview window doesn't show the full title either.

The ability to (eventually) download attachments would also be great :rolleyes:

Thanks :)

[12aon]

I would like to try the htc skin :p, but mostly would like to try the app :). And it seems you need to update your donation pledges ;),

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[valkryomnia]

Hello.
I have not tried your XDA widget because I am not running wm 6.5 on my omnia i910. Any chance you can make the widget compatable with ThrottleLauncher RC3?

It can work like the current Facebook widget that comes with the UI.

[ace10134]

Hello.
I have not tried your XDA widget because I am not running wm 6.5 on my omnia i910. Any chance you can make the widget compatable with ThrottleLauncher RC3?

It can work like the current Facebook widget that comes with the UI.

I believe he released a TEST version that works on all WinMo phones.

But anyways, it's not fully functioning yet, it's just a "nightly build". If you want to see a work in progress, then you'd try that.

In the end, Kyle's gonna make a version for WM6.0, WM6.5 phones, etc. He's got you covered, don't worry!

[DaveTheTytnIIGuy]

Hello.
I have not tried your XDA widget because I am not running wm 6.5 on my omnia i910. Any chance you can make the widget compatable with ThrottleLauncher RC3?

It can work like the current Facebook widget that comes with the UI.

Using the widget is essentially the same thing as going to http://www.xda-developers.mobi in any mobile browser, so you can still do that, with no loss of functionality.

[krook6023]

Kyle,

Keep up the good work...let me know when I can get my hands in the next beta...could you include a way to change the font size?

[ktemkin]

Redoing the threading model is taking longer than I expected. I think I'll work on it piece by piece, so you guys should be seeing performance increases with each release.

In other news, the next nightly (more like weekly) release should be from the main XDApp branch (i.e. full kinetic scrolling and all that jazz). I've been avoiding (read: procrastinating) going back to that main branch because a lot of the changes made in 6.5.1 don't work without a menu (softkey) bar, which I, unfortunately, didn't use.

[sayoonarachue]

lovely. can't wait for final release :) will test the nightly.

[ToddeSwe]

Wont work on my device.

Can see the threads but no preview or no full read by taping it twice.

Waiting for the final or next release!!

[ktemkin]

Wont work on my device.

Can see the threads but no preview or no full read by taping it twice.

Waiting for the final or next release!!


Are you running the .NET compact framework 3.5 (or higher)?

[ToddeSwe]

Are you running the .NET compact framework 3.5 (or higher)?

Yes i'm running NETCFSetupv35 on my device.
But i had to install it on my SDcard because of the low mem left on my device.

Is there a newer version out?

[noellenchris]

Any news? Looking forward to the next nightly build. Thanks again for all your doing, I've been waiting for an app like this for years!:)

[ace10134]

Any news? Looking forward to the next nightly build. Thanks again for all your doing, I've been waiting for an app like this for years!:)

Dude, I was having this feeling that I should post/someone would post on this thread!!! I'm becoming one with XDA :D

But yea, it's been a while since the last update. Whatever, it's nice to see developers actually doing things in real life, not just living on the forums :D

[Zahurtex]

For some reason I have never been able to use those nightly builds apps. and still use this web add. www.xda-developers.mobi
here I have to login every time i use forum and it doesn't save my details, am I missing something...:confused:

[treamer]

Hi,

i like you app ... its very nice to use this instead of Opera for posting.

But i have big problems to use the app in our (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548524) german wm6.5.1 rom build 23052 with integrated Framework3.5 ...

... autologon opens second window ... duplicated login ...
... if i have suscribed threads then the threads are shown, but if i try to open it, the app crashes, with no suscribed thread all works fine

thx for your work !

[noellenchris]

Is development still happening? Man....I was so excited about this app...:(

[12aon]

I've been wondering that too...

[krook6023]

Kyle,

I know how life comes before play belive me I get that...but if you are still out there...give us a sign...LOL

We love to hear something like "hey guys been really busy...but when I have time I will work on this agian" or even "sorry guys I have no more time to work on this". We are all still excited to see this project completed and I am sure everyone appreciate your efforts thus far...

[Zahurtex]

Yes...we love to hear from you:)

[markpud]

He's back from holiday soon.. maybe ;) :cool:

[Masterface7]

Hi, I am getting an error when i run the .exe that says xdapplitenet.exe Nullreference exception
at crypto.xtea.decrypt(string data, string key)
at
XDAppLiteNET.settings.loadEncrypted(String name)
etc.

Is there somewhere i can delete a settings xml on my phone to maybe make it work again. I could type out the full long error message if anyone thinks it might help.

[JValmont]

Is there any reason this app could not be adapted for use a a vbull 'translator' for any forum? Or multiple forums? This has so much potential to be an extention for vBull, making online forums into more easily accessible, social-networking-esque environments for winMo.
My two cents - and know I'll be installing this on my Tilt 2 on thursday when it arrives.
Val

[brandi]

want this app so baad!
if the development has stopped, why don't you release the sources, so someone else can finish it?

[drunknpublic]

Damn!... I just spent a whole hour reading this thread from begging to end just to find out that the app is incomplete!! I was feeling all that anticipation you were all feeling thinking that my reword would be at the end of the thread. What a bummer man. I hope nothing bad happened to Kyle, he sounded like such a cool guy too…

There goes one of GOD’s prototypes, just never made it to mass production:)

[joshts0]

I hope this gets finished!

[cruiserrr]

I want wanted to express my respect to the authors and encourage them to finish the application. Will keep checking.

[sc00basteve]

I sweat your skills. Please come back.
Or is it not possible cause you are selling this Lib to mobile websites, lol?
Good luck and much respect either way.

[Deafcyclist]

any news on the progress for this app? I'm anxiously awaiting for the next update. at the very least a mention of what's going on with this development could really help us know what to expect.

If you can't really develops it anymore (life taking over and whatnot) then why not PARTIALLY open the souce code? is that possible? you can keep the encrytions and stuffs closed but share the GUI and other components so users can add features and the like they like. I'm sure that could reduce the weight of having to develops everything yourself so you can just concentrate on only the closed stuffs.

[inertone]

bumpp!....

[omershahab]

When is this going to be released?

[carbonrobin]

I hope this is still in developement. It looks like Android has one now.

[kwanice]

the android version is already out..:s why not on windows mobile?
so sad..

[uqo11]

I hope this is still in developement. It looks like Android has one now.

I guess he stopped developing, but I use xda-developers.mobi unfortunately you can't download stuff....

[sinoo]

Why is there a post on the XDA-Portal when we can't even use it? :(

[Awassenaar]

Yeah I got here through the portal too, but it seems this app hasn't been updated in months....:confused:

[krook6023]

Yeah I got here through the portal too, but it seems this app hasn't been updated in months....:confused:

It has not and it is really a shame...when he was actively developing it he was making so much progress...:(

[bernabap]

Definitely this should be developed ... I searched for it when I saw they had made one for Android, but not found this. Please continue this project for Windows Mobile!

[angusc]

Definitely this should be developed ... I searched for it when I saw they had made one for Android, but not found this. Please continue this project for Windows Mobile!

It is there on the first post, just click the 0230 Hyperlink to download it.

[rakkk]

The exe file from link 0230 freeze my phone -- but interesting enough, it can run on my netbook, which has a Windows 7 installed...

Did I misunderstand the application? And why this is post on the portal if it doesn't work and discontinued?

EDIT: After reboot the application worked - but not as good as the Android one.

[nosh10]

Why is there a post on the XDA-Portal when we can't even use it? :(

That's what I'd like to know aswell.:confused:

[Franky24]

Mate,

thanks for your hard work.
The big BUT: Your app works (on HD2, 6.5.5) much less user friendly than opera 9.7. Using my fingers I cannot zoom, I cannot scroll.

I might have not understood what the use of your app is but just to view my favorite threads it's much less useful (in matters of usability) than plain old Opera /w bookmarks.
Your app even doesn't show pictures (smilies) in my thread.


Regards, Franky

[orb3000]

Why is there a post on the XDA-Portal when we can't even use it? :(

That's what I'd like to know aswell.:confused:

As mentioned on OP 1st post, this was in development and is not finished.
Some members have reported working on their devices.
I have it working also but it has bugs yet.

Making this to our portal is to call attention and to let another Devs this is unfinished so they can work on it:cool:

[ProjektFuze]

hmm this interests me... i'm going to watch this one

[sinoo]

As mentioned on OP 1st post, this was in development and is not finished.
Some members have reported working on their devices.
I have it working also but it has bugs yet.

Making this to our portal is to call attention and to let another Devs this is unfinished so they can work on it:cool:

You definitely called attention to it. :D
I hope there will be another DEV for this as the nightly built is not working on my device. :(

[JVH3]

As mentioned on OP 1st post, this was in development and is not finished.
Some members have reported working on their devices.
I have it working also but it has bugs yet.

Making this to our portal is to call attention and to let another Devs this is unfinished so they can work on it:cool:

From the xda portal article, it looked like it worked.

But, it doesn't.

[rajivshahi]

Thanx to the devloper for putting a lot of hard wonk in this project. Are you going to continue it?????:confused::confused::confused:
It's was great app in the making... i used it and it does work but still in beta stage so has lots of bugs... any one making something like it or continuing it will be much appreciated...

[altae]

It works on my Xperia X1 but its a bit buggy. Sometimes posts are not stored and sometimes it loads a blank page forcing me to refresh the page so I can see it.

[joe_coolish]

hmmm... OP hasn't been on the forum since last year. If we can get the source hosted somewhere (google code or something) then we can have the community jump in and help develop.

Project looks very promising. Maybe if we can't get ahold of the OP, time for Version 2 by a competing company?

[Mega Maniac]

Hi, managed to eventually come to this thread from searching "Tapatalk Winmo" in google(being thoroughly dissapointed what i found :( ) and got here through a link in another forum. I though I would just share a few interesting tidbits I got along the way. Hopefully im not just repeating a previous point.

In this thread
http://www.tapatalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1155

One of the Tapatalk dev's both dashes any real hope for Tapatalk on Winmo officially.
Oh.. they are very different.. The team here is really caught up with three platform - I think it will be more likely if the Windows Mobile 7 turns out a good thing.

But offers a glimmer of hope for any enterprising dev's (thats you guys :p) in that the Nokia app may be easily converted to a Winmo device

Alternatively we can look into porting it from the Nokia app. Have you tried the Tapatalk on Nokia yet? It is completely based on web technologies (like a safari web-app on steroid) and potentially can be ported to WinMo in relatively quick manner.

Just wondering if anyone here has the knowledge and resources to see if this could happen.

Food for thought :)

MM

[AndrewASB]

:( I connected to XDA, but there is no any content on screen.

I saw the content only one time - when first start xdapp. After I try select only 2 forums view.

[Finalforce1111]

Is anyone willing to continue this work?
At my opinion it is important it is much easier to access xda.
The developer who made the app wasn't online and will maybe never continue on this app, but we need it.
So if anyone of your professionals out there wants to help/take this work to finishing it would be great.

[joe_coolish]

Is anyone willing to continue this work?
At my opinion it is important it is much easier to access xda.
The developer who made the app wasn't online and will maybe never continue on this app, but we need it.
So if anyone of your professionals out there wants to help/take this work to finishing it would be great.

I would love to work on it, if the source was made available. But from scratch?... I have a lot on my plate as it is. Maybe the Mods can send the user an email to see what's up and see if the OP will release the source? What do you think Mods?

[sinoo]

I would love to work on it, if the source was made available. But from scratch?... I have a lot on my plate as it is. Maybe the Mods can send the user an email to see what's up and see if the OP will release the source? What do you think Mods?

Great idea... and thanks that you would continue this work. :)

[all-in]

It doesnt work.i can't even log in xda

[watcher64]

There are vBulletin skins for Wap/PocketPC , just a matter of the admins setting it up, a dedicated app would be nice though ...

[ryuu55]

I hate seeing this die..........I would really love to have a XDA app like they have on android!

I saw they said "other platforms" coming soon, but haven't heard or read any news.

[ryuu55]

I would love to work on it, if the source was made available. But from scratch?... I have a lot on my plate as it is. Maybe the Mods can send the user an email to see what's up and see if the OP will release the source? What do you think Mods?

I wish they would...... no news is bad news!

[ktemkin]

Believe it or not, I'm still here- and subscribed to this thread.

I've been away due to technical limitations, and work, for quite a while- but I've actually been feeling quite guilty lately about not putting in more work towards this. I promise- I'm going to put some more work in to this before the end of the week.

If you want the source- I'll release it soon.

Can I ask a question of you guys, though? How many of you are running Windows Mobile 6.5, or greater?
[What would be your opinion of an google-style, AJAX/Web 2.0 online 'app'?]

[ryuu55]

good to see you're still around ^_^

[ryuu55]

Believe it or not, I'm still here- and subscribed to this thread.

I've been away due to technical limitations, and work, for quite a while- but I've actually been feeling quite guilty lately about not putting in more work towards this. I promise- I'm going to put some more work in to this before the end of the week.

If you want the source- I'll release it soon.

Can I ask a question of you guys, though? How many of you are running Windows Mobile 6.5, or greater?
[What would be your opinion of an google-style, AJAX/Web 2.0 online 'app'?]


I am running 6.5.x latest Energy ROM, or sometime Artemis ROM

a "google-style" online app sounds fine w/ me

[joe_coolish]

Believe it or not, I'm still here- and subscribed to this thread.

I've been away due to technical limitations, and work, for quite a while- but I've actually been feeling quite guilty lately about not putting in more work towards this. I promise- I'm going to put some more work in to this before the end of the week.

If you want the source- I'll release it soon.

Can I ask a question of you guys, though? How many of you are running Windows Mobile 6.5, or greater?
[What would be your opinion of an google-style, AJAX/Web 2.0 online 'app'?]

Yay! Great to see news of development :) I have WinMo 6.5.3 and for me, google-style is the best style :)

But, Like I said before, if you want help developing, I am ready and willing!

[amt16]

nice app :)

[orb3000]

Nice to see you are still around!
I wrote an article of your app but afraid developing won´t continue.

Hope you can keep working on this!
We WM users really need an app like this.

I´m on WM6.5.3

Cheers,

Believe it or not, I'm still here- and subscribed to this thread.

I've been away due to technical limitations, and work, for quite a while- but I've actually been feeling quite guilty lately about not putting in more work towards this. I promise- I'm going to put some more work in to this before the end of the week.

If you want the source- I'll release it soon.

Can I ask a question of you guys, though? How many of you are running Windows Mobile 6.5, or greater?
[What would be your opinion of an google-style, AJAX/Web 2.0 online 'app'?]

[ktemkin]

For those of you who have been wondering where the hell I've been, I'll summarize:

I first went to university for Computer Engineering, a special field of Electrical Engineering which has focus on the development of embedded systems not unlike the HTC phones. I knew, when I started, that I had a natural proclivity for Computer Science- but I found the hardware side really interesting, too.

A few months ago, I decided that, in addition to the education I already had, I wanted a formal education in Computer Science. So, in addition to my normal work, I decided to take most of the core CS curricula at once. I wound up with about 110 hours of work a week. I had absolute no time to program for myself, or for any of you.

To make things worse, the apartment I moved to by the university campus didn't have service with T-mobile; which meant I either needed to switch to Verizon, or get a land-line. I wound up with Big Red, and, given how much I was already paying for classes, I couldn't really justify paying the $30 a month for a data plan. With Verizon, that meant no precious Touch Pro.

The good news is that things have come along quite a bit since back then. I'm pretty much done with the CS curriculum. I currently work for the university, and I plan on starting my master's degree in Computer Engineering.

I'm no longer working insane amounts; which is good- I should be able to get back to this. (Plus, had I continued working that much, my fiancée would have killed me.) In other good news, I just bought a Droid Eris, so I'm back in the smartphone game. I would have preferred a HD2, but I can only afford so much.

---

Because I'll have an android device just as soon as the USPS decides my package is worth delivering, I've been considering developing an AJAX-style in-browser app. That'd allow me to use the app as I develop it, instead of just when I get a chance on my old, disconnected Raphael, and it could easily be packaged as a 6.5 widget.

The web-app seems to be the only real cross-platform implementation that works well. You'd be able to use the app to access XDA from your beautiful HTC device, no matter if it runs Windows Mobile or Android. You'd also be able to use the app from that iPhone or iPod touch you hope nobody discovers you have. Hell, if I'm careful with my JavaScript, you might even be able to use XDA from your wife's crackberry, or that stupid feature-phone with that nice $9.99 unlimited internet plan.

How's that sound?

[ryuu55]

sounds good, looking forward to see it.

[Deafcyclist]

quick question, how would the google app look like? I'm curious to see what you mean :-) like other's have echoed, I'm glad to have seen you back here again. I'm eagerly looking forward to whatever new updates you will bring :-) I would be willing to test it on my ipod touch and my tilt2 to let you know how it performs. Another question, would it be possible to see the mobile google app version via a desktop browser? sometimes I find the mobile site to be preferable to main sites for a few places I regularly go online. I suspect it may be the case for this google app thing :-)

[mike6200]

This is no longer working on my tp2. Says trying to connect to server and never connects.

[krook6023]

Believe it or not, I'm still here- and subscribed to this thread.

I've been away due to technical limitations, and work, for quite a while- but I've actually been feeling quite guilty lately about not putting in more work towards this. I promise- I'm going to put some more work in to this before the end of the week.

If you want the source- I'll release it soon.

Can I ask a question of you guys, though? How many of you are running Windows Mobile 6.5, or greater?
[What would be your opinion of an google-style, AJAX/Web 2.0 online 'app'?]

Holy crap...Kyle...welcome back! Good see you you are alive...I was.really thinking sokething bad might have happened to you.

[janneman22]

For those of you who have been wondering where the hell I've been, I'll summarize:

I first went to university for Computer Engineering, a special field of Electrical Engineering which has focus on the development of embedded systems not unlike the HTC phones. I knew, when I started, that I had a natural proclivity for Computer Science- but I found the hardware side really interesting, too.

A few months ago, I decided that, in addition to the education I already had, I wanted a formal education in Computer Science. So, in addition to my normal work, I decided to take most of the core CS curricula at once. I wound up with about 110 hours of work a week. I had absolute no time to program for myself, or for any of you.

To make things worse, the apartment I moved to by the university campus didn't have service with T-mobile; which meant I either needed to switch to Verizon, or get a land-line. I wound up with Big Red, and, given how much I was already paying for classes, I couldn't really justify paying the $30 a month for a data plan. With Verizon, that meant no precious Touch Pro.

The good news is that things have come along quite a bit since back then. I'm pretty much done with the CS curriculum. I currently work for the university, and I plan on starting my master's degree in Computer Engineering.

I'm no longer working insane amounts; which is good- I should be able to get back to this. (Plus, had I continued working that much, my fiancée would have killed me.) In other good news, I just bought a Droid Eris, so I'm back in the smartphone game. I would have preferred a HD2, but I can only afford so much.

---

Because I'll have an android device just as soon as the USPS decides my package is worth delivering, I've been considering developing an AJAX-style in-browser app. That'd allow me to use the app as I develop it, instead of just when I get a chance on my old, disconnected Raphael, and it could easily be packaged as a 6.5 widget.

The web-app seems to be the only real cross-platform implementation that works well. You'd be able to use the app to access XDA from your beautiful HTC device, no matter if it runs Windows Mobile or Android. You'd also be able to use the app from that iPhone or iPod touch you hope nobody discovers you have. Hell, if I'm careful with my JavaScript, you might even be able to use XDA from your wife's crackberry, or that stupid feature-phone with that nice $9.99 unlimited internet plan.

How's that sound?

not bad :)

[ktemkin]

It seems like everything's moved around on XDA-developers, but the fix is as simple as sending a single cookie to the server, to get the old theme back.

Caught between work, attempting to root the newer Droid Eris bootloader, and this, so things are going to be slow for a little while- hopefully I'll finalize this exploit soon, and get my task list down to two.

[gwon]

It seems like everything's moved around on XDA-developers, but the fix is as simple as sending a single cookie to the server, to get the old theme back.

Caught between work, attempting to root the newer Droid Eris bootloader, and this, so things are going to be slow for a little while- hopefully I'll finalize this exploit soon, and get my task list down to two.

Just incase anyone hasn't tried this: set you theme in your USERCP on XDA Devs back to the old one, launch XDAPP. Happy days.

[orb3000]

It seems like everything's moved around on XDA-developers, but the fix is as simple as sending a single cookie to the server, to get the old theme back.

Caught between work, attempting to root the newer Droid Eris bootloader, and this, so things are going to be slow for a little while- hopefully I'll finalize this exploit soon, and get my task list down to two.

Looking forward to see more development on this great app!

[mike2nl]

Oho, last nightly build from 7th September 2009.

Are there some news about the project, or it is asleep? I hope not, because this is what XDA nerds need.

[gwon]

The dev posted on the last page, making mention of a possible webapp style version.

He also mentioned releasing the current source, which would be pretty nice.

[mike2nl]

Believe it or not, I'm still here- and subscribed to this thread.
Hi ktemkin,
this is good to know :).

Can I ask a question of you guys, though? How many of you are running Windows Mobile 6.5, or greater?
I use the stock rom for wm 6.5 (signature).

[What would be your opinion of an google-style, AJAX/Web 2.0 online 'app'?]
Google-style is not bad, so far you don't use the google code about analysys :D.

[orb3000]

To OP, if you can´t continue this great work perhaps you may want to share your work with another developer who can continue.
WM users really need this app!!!

Thanks,

[JVH3]

To OP, if you can´t continue this great work perhaps you may want to share your work with another developer who can continue.
WM users really need this app!!!

Thanks,

If I'm not mistaken, xda-developers.com is just a word press site.
[correction]vbulletin[/correction

I did some googling, and there is a thing called word press web services that can be installed on the site.

It it were, consuming the webservices in an app would be a trivial task and an app could be made veery quickly. Dot net makes it extremely easy to consume webservices.

Otherwise the html needs to be parsed rather than having the content in an xml stream.

[orb3000]

Well, if you can go ahead with this app I´m sure a lot of members will be grateful:)

[JVH3]

Well, if you can go ahead with this app I´m sure a lot of members will be grateful:)

Problem is that word press web services is not installed on the site.

I'm not going to write something that manually transforms HTML when any slight layout change would break it.

If you can convince the owner(s) to install word press web services, I could give it a try.

[joe_coolish]

Problem is that word press web services is not installed on the site.

I'm not going to write something that manually transforms HTML when any slight layout change would break it.

If you can convince the owner(s) to install word press web services, I could give it a try.

There must be some kinds of services exposed, else how would the android app be so good?

Once I'm done with the FB app I'm working on, this would be a great next project. If I can get the backend data, would you be willing to write the app to display it?

[bons]

This is no longer working on my tp2. Says trying to connect to server and never connects.

+1 Not working on my TP2 either. It says "Contacting Server", makes three attemps and then states: "XDApp seems to be having difficulty connecting ... "

I have a working internet connection allright.
Something we can do to make it work?

thnx in advance.

[orb3000]

So?
Nobody who will want to continue this project?

Androis has it´s own app and it´s newer, hope great WM Devs got interest on this!!

[joe_coolish]

So?
Nobody who will want to continue this project?

Androis has it´s own app and it´s newer, hope great WM Devs got interest on this!!

Yeah, I'm interested in continuing the project. Thou I'm no great WM Dev :) I have 2 major apps on my plate (one of which is a Facebook app, which WM also desperately needs) and then I'm down for looking into this project.

If I'm not mistaken, I thought XDA was a vBulletin forum. There has to be some core services or atleast continuous HTML divs that allow for consumption or parsing. When I get some time, I'll take a look. Cuz this is what I need... A way to waste more time on this site from anywhere that I have service! Geez... Between ROM updates and application development, I'm surprized I still function in the "real world"

[JonnieLasVegas]

Just found this thread, & gotta say this would be a great app! I love the xda app for android. If we could get something like that for wm that would be sweet as pie!

[JVH3]

Just found this thread, & gotta say this would be a great app! I love the xda app for android. If we could get something like that for wm that would be sweet as pie!

Is the source code available for the android app?

If so, a port to dot net would probably be pretty easy. Post a link if it is.

If there are basic webservice calls that can be made, it should be a simple app to write.

Parsing the HTML of the site would be kind of pointless, since a small edit to the website could break the app.

[uncleswoop]

Just found this thread, & gotta say this would be a great app! I love the xda app for android. If we could get something like that for wm that would be sweet as pie!

oh man, thats a great idea! why didnt anyone else think of that??
:rolleyes:

[JonnieLasVegas]

Wow, uncleswoop at least you've proven there's still jackass kids on the web, or adults who act like jackass kids, lmao!

J, Not sure about the source code, but I can have my friend look into it, I'm such a noob I wouldn't know where to look. He's at least got some knowledge. I'll let you know what I find out.

Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

[orb3000]

Any news on the developing of this app?

Android users have their own now and WM??

Hope this won´t stop, please post into this thread to inject life on it:)

[Kaeron46]

Any news on the developing of this app?

Android users have their own now and WM??

Hope this won´t stop, please post into this thread to inject life on it:)

Well.. Just my little contribution..
I've took a look at the Android app which is based on Tapatalk, a module server-side installed who allows the app to interact with forum database directly, so no problem of parsing the HTML code of the forum.
But Tapatalk doesn't seems to be interested in making a WM app.
I think that if we could take a look at the Tapatalk module it will be more easy to code a XDA App, but I don't know if it will be allowed by Tapatalk..

More info here (http://www.tapatalk.com/api/api.php)

(I hope my English is clear enough..)

[ferlanero]

Hope we can use this app in winmo early!

[uncleswoop]

Wow, uncleswoop at least you've proven there's still jackass kids on the web, or adults who act like jackass kids, lmao!

J, Not sure about the source code, but I can have my friend look into it, I'm such a noob I wouldn't know where to look. He's at least got some knowledge. I'll let you know what I find out.

Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

love it when people try to act mature, then they add a "LMAO."
stating the obvious is also wonderful.
or... excuse me... its "sweet as pie".

[JonnieLasVegas]

Never said I was mature, just stating that you're obviously not, as well, lmao not LMAO, lol. But keep on telling yourself you are. Now go do the world a favor and jump into some oncoming traffic.....now that would be.....well sweet as pie, lmao.(didn't want to disappoint you, you dirty old uncle).

Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

[uncleswoop]

Never said I was mature, just stating that you're obviously not, as well, lmao not LMAO, lol. But keep on telling yourself you are. Now go do the world a favor and jump into some oncoming traffic.....now that would be.....well sweet as pie, lmao.(didn't want to disappoint you, you dirty old uncle).

Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App


ugh....
:rolleyes:
lets keep this forum clean for those who have legitimate questions on opinions.
"hey it would be cool if..." really starts off by saying "im 13 and i havnt looked around or anything but i want you guys to do this for me..... and explain it step by step when you do...."
hope you learned something jonnyboy.

[Ev0luti0n_]

ugh....
:rolleyes:
lets keep this forum clean for those who have legitimate questions on opinions.
"hey it would be cool if..." really starts off by saying "im 13 and i havnt looked around or anything but i want you guys to do this for me..... and explain it step by step when you do...."
hope you learned something jonnyboy.

this! totally agree!

[pelycan]

its there a problem with the app from the first post ? steel connecting server ....and no conection....or my diamond suck ? by the way......is netframework required for the app ?





tnx guys