Herald (P4350) stuck in boot loader

[Molokai]

My P4350 *always* comes up with the bootloader (tries to read the SD card).

I tried running heradiag.nbh but got the "Security Level" issue.
Then I tried just putting an officially signed RUU on the SD card - and it loaded successfully, upgrading my IPL and SPL from 4.xx.xxxx to 5.xx.xxxx

Unfortunately, it is still stuck in the bootloader, so I am unable to get back into WM.

My only guess now is that the camera button has taken enough physical abuse (from hitting the ground) so that it is engaged and puts me into the bootloader screen.

Anyone have any tips at this point? With the exception of that, everything seems to be fine and dandy :/

Molok

[ace10134]

My P4350 *always* comes up with the bootloader (tries to read the SD card).

I tried running heradiag.nbh but got the "Security Level" issue.
Then I tried just putting an officially signed RUU on the SD card - and it loaded successfully, upgrading my IPL and SPL from 4.xx.xxxx to 5.xx.xxxx

Unfortunately, it is still stuck in the bootloader, so I am unable to get back into WM.

My only guess now is that the camera button has taken enough physical abuse (from hitting the ground) so that it is engaged and puts me into the bootloader screen.

Anyone have any tips at this point? With the exception of that, everything seems to be fine and dandy :/

Molok

Hmm. Don't you usually have to press the soft-reset button while holding the camera button to get into the bootloader? So then it shouldn't be going into the bootloader. Have you tried removing the battery for 3 seconds, and then replacing it? Then try to flash after that again. See if that works.

[Molokai]

Hmm. Don't you usually have to press the soft-reset button while holding the camera button to get into the bootloader? So then it shouldn't be going into the bootloader. Have you tried removing the battery for 3 seconds, and then replacing it? Then try to flash after that again. See if that works.

Well, I do believe that the camera button has taken a bit of a beating. More than a year ago, when the phone started doing this, I disassembled it in the hopes of finding something to straighten out around where the camera button is. Now I can't quite remember what I found, so I guess I will have to open it again. I believe the switch was broken - possibly broken loose from the MB.

But yes, as far as I have been able to read, a combination of different buttons should be pressed, so I don't understand why I am getting the bootloader.

In any case, 10 seconds with no battery (and it was very very dead from being unused for more than a year!!), made no difference.

I will try to reflash it, but that was successful, and IPL and SPL were both updated.

I wonder if I could short or open the camera button to fix this. I never did like the camera buttons that are so easy to hit anyways...

[ace10134]

Well, I do believe that the camera button has taken a bit of a beating. More than a year ago, when the phone started doing this, I disassembled it in the hopes of finding something to straighten out around where the camera button is. Now I can't quite remember what I found, so I guess I will have to open it again. I believe the switch was broken - possibly broken loose from the MB.

But yes, as far as I have been able to read, a combination of different buttons should be pressed, so I don't understand why I am getting the bootloader.

In any case, 10 seconds with no battery (and it was very very dead from being unused for more than a year!!), made no difference.

I will try to reflash it, but that was successful, and IPL and SPL were both updated.

I wonder if I could short or open the camera button to fix this. I never did like the camera buttons that are so easy to hit anyways...

Wait, did flashing it work?? So is the phone in WinMo now? You said it was "Sucessful".

[Molokai]

Wait, did flashing it work?? So is the phone in WinMo now? You said it was "Sucessful".

Let me try to be unambiguous -

I was successful in loading the RUU_Signed ROM - the bootloader read it off my SD card, installed it - and in the process upgraded the IPL and SPL from 4.xx.xxxx to 5.xx.xxxx

HOWEVER - It still only goes into the bootloader when I cycle the phone. It does not boot the OS. so no go on WM.

[ace10134]

Let me try to be unambiguous -

I was successful in loading the RUU_Signed ROM - the bootloader read it off my SD card, installed it - and in the process upgraded the IPL and SPL from 4.xx.xxxx to 5.xx.xxxx

HOWEVER - It still only goes into the bootloader when I cycle the phone. It does not boot the OS. so no go on WM.

Ok. Well maybe Ivan will see this and have an idea what to do.

[Molokai]

Ok. Well maybe Ivan will see this and have an idea what to do.

A quick bit of additional information:

When I plug in the usb-charger, the phone automatically starts up and goes directly into the bootloader.

If I push and hold the power button, it shuts off, then comes on again after a few seconds.

If I unplug the charger, I can shut it off and it does not start up again automatically.

Molok

[Molokai]

I took the thing apart again - and now I remember - after some fatal kinetic energy poisioning (i.e. falling onto the floor), the microswitch for the camera button dislodged itself.

So there is, in fact, no camera button anymore.

Does anyone know if a "missing" microswitch would be equal to it always being pushed in? Perhaps a short here would allow the phone to boot normally?

Missing camera button:
http://x0.no/0fkc

In contrast, the comm button still in place:
http://x0.no/0fkd

[ace10134]

Does anyone know if a "missing" microswitch would be equal to it always being pushed in? Perhaps a short here would allow the phone to boot normally?

Idk. I honestly don't know.

Maybe Ivan knows??

Does anyone know if a "missing" microswitch would be equal to it always being pushed in? Perhaps a short here would allow the phone to boot normally?